Settlement Reached in FDNY Discrimination Suit

Matthew Chayes and Gary Dymski, Newsday, March 18, 2014

New York City has agreed to settle a civil-rights lawsuit accusing its fire department of intentionally discriminating in hiring minorities.

Mayor Bill de Blasio and the U.S. Justice Department, in announcing the agreement Tuesday, said the city will pay about $98 million to resolve allegations the FDNY engaged in a pattern or practice of employment discrimination against African-American and Hispanic applicants for the entry-level firefighter position by using two discriminatory written tests in 1999 and 2002.

The agreement in principle will be incorporated into a consent decree that is subject to a fairness hearing and must be approved by the district court, according to a release Tuesday from the Justice Department.

The lawsuit originated in 2007 when the department filed its complaint alleging that the FDNY’s use of the two written tests violated Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 by disproportionately screening out African-American and Hispanic applicants for the entry-level firefighter position, the release said.

The settlement is yet another break with the Bloomberg administration for the de Blasio administration.

Under the settlement, the city will pay money to applicants alleging FDNY discrimination, as well as enact new policies intended to curb future discrimination and address allegations of past discrimination, said Jen Nessel, a spokeswoman for the Center for Constitutional Rights, which represents a group of black firefighters who allege FDNY discrimination.

The settlement also includes back pay, Nessel said.

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  • D.B. Cooper

    I say go for it! I already know the castrated serf that is the northeastern white male is only going to bend over and take it like a prison punk.

    • RisingReich

      and probably turn around and ask for another.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        They will be so glued to their iPhones, they won’t even notice.

    • Erasmus

      And there are still people who wonder why so many of us once patriotic Americans will shed no tears when the country breaks apart. The country we love died decades ago. What we have now is just an empty soul-less shell.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        The Crimea separation was a good lesson. It was relatively bloodless and the ethnic Russians there are content. That could be a good model example when the minority of actual Americans have to extricate from the newly formed country of South California. We’ll take our people and military complex out of San Diego, etc. And retake it later, at our convenience. After the Greaserito parasites tear each other apart.

  • Alexandra1973

    I noticed two things–First, that Newsday has been busily deleting posts; and secondly, that comments are now closed.

    Hm.

    • sbuffalonative

      Only 56 comments? That was a short list. I also noticed many of the remaining comments support the ruling.

      And the MSM wonders why they’re losing readers and losing credibility.

    • newscomments70

      Also, notice how Disqus doesn’t allow us to see negative votes anymore. Everyone gets a prize.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      They block your IP all together over at Bill Moyers propaganda outlet. Only liberal potpourri allowed. He so aggressively blocks people that most stories only have a few posts after several weeks. Strictly warm fuzzy liberal chatter only. No dissent allowed. There were probably 500 IPs blocked–if not 5,000. Obviously–including mine….<;-D

      This is a kind of public corruption. They guy works for taxpayers. He should be thrown in jail for that.

      This is what the message looks like. (The name of the pic file, described by DISQUS themselves is "…error-blacklisted…")
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      • Alexandra1973

        I think I’m blocked over at PMSNBC as well…one of the major outlets. I must’ve done something right! LOL

        • AndrewInterrupted

          EDIT: See if my comment is still there: http://billmoyers(dot)com/spotlight/talking-about-race/

          So far so good.

          “…Alexandra1973 ROG • 4 hours ago

          Take a good look at Ancient Rome. Then take a look at modern-day sub-Saharan Africa.

          I rest my case.

          To deny that race goes beyond skin color is just plain ignorant and dangerous. Especially when you’re in a high-crime area (and what are the demographics of any area deemed high-crime, boys and girls?).

          There are biological differences. You watch one of these forensics shows and they’ll tell you they can tell by someone’s skull what race they were. So much for “just skin color.”

          If race were only “skin color,” why would anyone purposely go out of their way to “oppress” someone with a different skin tone? Doesn’t make sense. Unless our forefathers knew something we don’t…or don’t want to admit….

          Poverty does not cause crime, I might add. West Virginia is one of our poorest states…but with one of the lowest crime rates. I have yet to hear of a drive-by in the Appalachians.

          Let’s face it, anti-racists think they have the moral high ground and don’t want their comfort zone disturbed. They just want to stay in their little la-la land.

          I challenge such people to live in Detroit–my hometown–for a month. Get some of that diversity.

          Anti-racist, I might add, IS a code word for anti-White.

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  • thomas edward

    Center for Constitutional Rights, which represents a group of black firefighters who allege FDNY discrimination
    ________________________________________________________
    Bingo, Blacks always set themselves apart from the group. They can never be just a firemen. They only consider themselves a “black” firemen, Ironworker, Steamfitter, carpenter, etc. They are truly pathetic. If the leadership of the Firefighters Union had any backbone, they’d expel every last one of them who put their names to that suit.

  • sbuffalonative

    “…enact new policies intended to curb future discrimination”

    Affirmative Action firefighters. I hope New Yorkers feel safer.

  • NM156

    Isn’t disparate impact an official admission that Blacks and Hispanics have lower IQs, even if test questions are unnecessarily difficult?

    • APaige

      Steve Sailer’s website had a direct passage from a New York Times article from about the time of the tests. As follows: “Each exam consists of 85 multiple-choice questions about firefighting practices: the order in which a firefighter should don gear in an alarm; what the rear of a building would look like, based on its facade; the right situations in which to say “mayday” rather than “urgent” over the walkie-talkie.” Another question was asked after reading a passage about saws to use on different materials. The answer was in the question! No need to even study.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        You’re right. If the 85 questions are specific to the job, and not some random math test, than it should be a valid universal assessment test. The social engineers were able to dumb-down the testing after the New Haven-20 SCOTUS ruling. Despite the fact that they 20 white Fireman had won the case.

        In the New Haven-20 case the assessment test had both specific questions and general IQ ones. It’s the IQ ones they objected to. So, now, even the dumbed down tests aren’t good enough. Oy vey!!!

        The front page of this site explains SCOTUS – New Haven-20.

        wwwDOTAdversityDOTnet

  • Extropico

    This case is a fine exemplar denying the spurious proposition that we will have a meritocracy in a balkanized society. Each tribe that wishes to preserve itself will be fighting over the moribund empire’s carcass.

    • dd121

      Not even trying to be a meritocracy since a 1973 supreme court ruling.

  • Las Vegas Jackpot–Negro style!

  • WR_the_realist

    Michael Bloomberg favors illegal immigration, hates guns, and favors nanny state rules about how big your soft drink can be, New York City is the only place where Michael Bloomberg looks like a conservative when compared to the opposition.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      That’s why Spike Lee sold his house. He knows a market top when he sees one.

      “…Where do we move to next, white folks? Now that we screwed up this place?…”

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    I used to want to live in New York someday. Not anymore. Bloomberg was bad enough with his nanny state, but he pales in comparison to de Blasio. Looks like we’re going to see NYC go down the drain again…

    • benvad

      It’s mid 1970s being revisited all over again. I think he’s come in to stem the glow of Black/Brown flight from the city.

      • benvad

        It’s like Carter/Dinkins have been reincarnated into Obama/Di Blasio,
        Just the colors have switched.

        Sad really.

    • r j p

      Maybe de Blasio’s afro son Dante wants to be a fireman?

  • Ed

    DeBlasio is perfect for NYC, simply perfect.

  • JohnEngelman

    It will be interesting to see how the number of buildings damaged or destroyed increases as the result of this ruling, as well as the number of people injured or killed by fires. White tax payers are paying for a decline in the quality of services we need from the government.

  • benvad

    He’s De Niro’s favorite type of politician.
    Isn’t that so?

  • Luca

    I suppose some of the questions were written in cursive.

    • benvad

      OMG that’s good one. I’m laughing hard but inside I’m crying because that’s probably true.

  • Bobbala

    Stupidity is fast becoming a preferred path to minority success.

  • IstvanIN

    and they get back pay! How do you get back pay for a job you never did?

    • Tarczan

      So these guys get back pay, what about the fireman killed on 9/11 who didn’t get back pay? Does anyone think the darkies would have bravely marched up the twin towers to their death?

      • AndrewInterrupted

        If they get compensated for everything the 9/11 Fireman got, shouldn’t at least lethal injection be suggested? That’s some equality right there, now.

  • dave

    Both. Whites have to score 90 or better. Blacks and women have to score 75 or better. They even made the test redidulously easy.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Oh yeah, the Black & Hispandex crowd use the Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 complaint all the time. Just let a white guy try filing one. The gangsters at the EEOC laugh you out of the place.

    • Martel

      The laughing is actually on record, if you recall the investigative report of the Civil rights division of the DOJ in 2013.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Do you have a link? I read some of J. Christian Adams’ stuff.

        BTW, I heard the laughter personally, coming from the EEOC/Boston office. They intentionally sabotaged my case. I got the FBI/Boston involved —->and they laughed.

        They have a sneaky little Chinese weasel running the EEOC scam in Boston now. I dealt with that little commie spy, too. He was the one who hid the sabotage of my case from the FBI. The whole Boston Fed bldg. is a gangster operation.

        Maybe if we can get an American to retake the white house in 2016 we can shut those terrorists down. 2016 is our last chance. We are under occupation in the U.S.

        Send help.

        • Martel

          On our favorite website add:

          /news/2013/03/breaking-inspector-general-report-on-racialist-dysfunction-inside-doj/

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yeah, that’s the DOJ. The EEOC is worse, but they are all linked. There is another insidious little hate group within these layers called the Office of Federal Contract Compliance (OFCCP). Those people hate hetero, white males more than the EEOC. And guess who is the head of that 100 employee hate group? —->A Chicago gangster…See a theme?

          • Martel

            Isn’t the EEOC depended on DOJ investigations?
            I never heard of the OFCCP, do you have any information which prove their record of discrimination against whites?

            Chicago is all about gangster politics. Alinsky was inspired by Frank Nitti.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yes, it is a symbiotic relationship. They are all linked. The EEOC runs interference for the DOJ, to make sure white complaints don’t make it to DOJ/DOL ears. This link is a wealth of info. on the topic.
            wwwDOTAdversityDOTnet

          • Martel

            Interesting, thanks.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Wiki entry for head of OFCCP:

            Patricia Ann Shiu is the current Director of Federal Contract Compliance from 2009 to today during the administration of Barack Obama.[3] Prior to joining the Department of Labor, Shiu worked as Vice President for Programs at the Legal Aid Society-Employment Law Center in San Francisco. She worked there for 26 years. Shiu also worked as an associate at the law firm of Pillsbury, Madison & Sutro. [3] [2]

            In 1982, Shiu received her J.D. from the University of San Francisco School of Law and in 1979, her B.A. in Political Economy of Industrialized States from the University of California, Berkeley. Born in Chicago, she is half Chinese and half Irish, and is the daughter of Joan Pierce Shiu[4][5] [6] and Mr. Shiu.

            .

          • Martel

            Creepy.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            And look at those anti-white credentials.
            Dyed-in-the-wool hater of all things American.

        • Martel

          I keep saying this on Amren, and it may start to annoy some, but write a journal and note links and anything else which may be useful in investigation or inclusion in another more extensive report later on. Many whites suffer such discrimination but no one is taking any notes.

          Boston Asians are quite different from Asian stereotypes, I have seen some videos of them assaulting whites.

          I believe the EEOC population is 50% black because I know a thing or two about US governmental institutions, they tend to be 50% black. The black middle-class consists mostly out of AA hires in local government. Perhaps bureacracy isn’t such a bad thing after all, its just ruined by AA, who knows.

          I don’t see 2016 as our year, I estimate 2018. Whites will wake up but after that America will be so ruined it will not be worth saving. Unlike Engelman who will continue voting for a democrat as he did in 2008 and 2012, I will hope a republican will win.

          • r j p

            Would you want to work in an office that has been 50% blacked
            knowing that out of the 50 there are only one or two capable blacks
            there? Guess who is doing all the work? Guess who just comes to
            work for a paycheck?

          • Martel

            It sounds like you have some experiences in this matter. No, I would absolutely not want to work in such a setting. It causes to many tensions as I wouldn’t join in on the morning prayer to Obama for ‘ mo moneys’.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            You guys just described my federal contractor experience of 10 years. The Obama years were especially brutal. Until the final act of brutality: purged for being a hetero, white male.

            For the record, a 50% Black population at the EEOC is on the high side for all agencies. Because the purpose of the EEOC is for hating on white people, they naturally hire a disproportionate number of black people. The lawyer crowd within DOJ call it: ‘…Personnel is policy…’. It gives the Obama, Holder and Perez anti-white types built-in ‘…plausible deniability…’

          • Martel

            When they turn on the grinder, there is little you can do.

  • Martel

    How did the test discriminate against afro-americans?

    • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

      The test didn’t discriminate, nature did, and therefore whites are to blame. It’s called black logic.

      • Martel

        I hope they have a better explanation. If they only counted the number of Afro-Americans caught with their pants down, and have taken this as evidence to ruin the investigation of these dedicated prosecutors, I’m officially declaring the United States dead, for the second time.

    • toldev

      If the test is racist then the job is racist as well. An applicant who performs poorly on the test is almost guaranteed to perform poorly on the job.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Any assessment test that doesn’t produce ‘equal results’ is racist.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    You talkin’ tuh meee? You talkin’ tuh meee?

  • thomas edward

    In the morning, I will write President Steve Cassidy and tell him he should bring any fireman who put his name to that suit should be expelled from the Uniformed Firefighters Association.
    There certainly is language in the UFA’s bylaws to allow such action. Of course, Cassidy and the Executive Board will bring no such charges against these lowdown black traitors, but I’ll write the letter anyway.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    It’s difficult for me to decide which is the bigger load of Democrat crap — disparate impact equals discrimination or the idea of discriminatory tests?

    Probably disparate impact because Democrats can and will apply that to attempt to overturn every facet of life where a disparate outcome naturally results to the detriment of blacks and Hispanics.

    • IstvanIN

      You can nor expect everyone to know 3 + 4 = 7, do you?

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I believe that semantics came out of the SCOTUS case in 1971 called: Griggs vs. Duke Power. That opened the door to quotas, which is what this is.

      • r j p

        One of the three worst SCOTUS decisions ever.
        Other two:
        Shelley v. Kraemer
        Loving v. Virginia

        • AndrewInterrupted

          I will have to look at those.
          What were the ‘big picture’ outcomes there?

          • r j p

            Shelley v. Kraemer outlawed racial covenants.
            Loving v. Virginia legalized interracial marriage.

    • jane johnson

      No decision necessary. They are one and the same. Tests are discriminatory BECAUSE they result in disparate impact, i.e. more Whites than minorities pass them.

  • Bob

    David Yeagley was right when he said the white man is the new Indian.

  • Whitetrashgang

    Since half of blacks cant read or write I can see their point . The test should of had oral questions like if one of my baby mamas sets her house on fire where does she pick up her welfare cheque. I guess the fire trucks will now have to be painted black and brown and have a lowered suspension and tinted windows.

    • sbuffalonative

      They tried oral tests. They did just as bad.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        There isn’t a single test in existence where blacks do as well as whites. Instead of admitting the truth, blacks just scream racism.

        • I’m probably willing to concede squats, sprinting, and social I.Q. for the brief period between about age 3 to age 7.

          • dd121

            Personally, I think you’re being too generous.

      • toldev

        Oral test can discriminatory. If wanted an oral test to be discriminatory, one could choose examiners who lack fluency in Ebonics.

        Examiner: What is 50 minus 7?

        Applicant Shitavious: Foe fee

        Examiner (scratching head): What was that?

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Examiner: “…If we submit to political pressure and pass you anyway, what are the chances you will screw-up your emergency response procedure?…”

          Applicant L’Genius Wisdom Shitavious: “…fitty-fitty…”

  • benvad

    Read what kind of characters his parents were. He couldn’t have turned out any different. Father was s leftist Artist (I.e. Unemployed) and a mother from a wealthy guilt ridden lumber barons from Oregon. Amazing how he has a penchant for ugly black/mulatto women.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Translation: whatever mealy mouthed gobble-de-gook that has to be said to achieve quotas.

  • NoMosqueHere

    de Blasio should be impeached for his involvement in this settlement. As mayor of NYC, Red Bill has a legal obligation to act in the best interests of the City as whole, not participate in a settlement that benefits a few purported victims of ginned up, frivolous lawsuit at the City’s expense.

    • r j p

      This is what happens when americans elect dopey self hating whites with ‘fro headed children to office.

      Fixed it for you.

  • Jesse James

    If I was a New York tax payer this new poor pitiful negro settlement would cause me to flee the city and the state.

    • Ella

      I agree about the poor tax payer. I would never live in the Northeast for any job!

    • TXCriollo

      This isnt new up in the north, de blaiso is a communist plain and simple, he and his wife are going to turn nyc back to what it was in the 1970s and 1980s

  • OhWow

    The real racists are the people who say blacks can never have the cognitive ability of whites.

    Oh the irony.

  • Pro_Whitey

    This is a helpful example of one way leftists get what they want. Rather than try to push such obviously anti-white and racially biased policies through legislation, they get a leftist into the executive position, and then he gives them what they want under cover of settling litigation and sparing the city what a judge might impose. A classic form of leftist power choreography. This litigation settlement/consent decree method has been used a number of times to push blacks and browns into public housing in white neighborhoods and thereby push the whites out of the public housing and out of town.

  • TXCriollo

    You dont pass the test you dont get in how hard is that

    • Alexandra1973

      I think what these idiots are trying to say is that it was purposely written so that blacks can’t pass.

      Of course, by saying something like that, they’re actually *admitting* that blacks aren’t capable. If blacks were so smart as your average sheeple is made to believe, they should have no problem.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        The same dialogue circulated during the New Haven-20 period. The only reason why this dead issue came back to life is because of DeBlasio, the panderer.

        • TXCriollo

          He is something else, nyc is just a bane on america

          • AndrewInterrupted

            All the white folks will be following Spike Lee out of town soon.

  • newscomments70

    I notices those removal notices. It was at least half of the comments. They are desperately trying to hide the truth, but it only makes them look more ridiculous.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      They don’t mind looking ridiculous. The enemies of the European American have no conscience. We are up against sociopaths.

  • Sloppo

    Written tests may actually be discriminatory against black Africans. After all, non-black races have been using written languages for thousands of years while many black African languages simply don’t have a written language component even today. Blacks may have never developed that kind of ability because it was never needed in their societies. Perhaps we should blame our ancestors who developed written languages while completely ignoring the “No Race Left Behind Act”.

  • John R

    How does a written test discriminate against minorities? It should be the most fair way of hiring people, a lot more fair than going by personal interviews, which are more subjective. I guess things went like this: The test was in English, discriminating against Hispanics. The test was in standard English, discriminating against African Americans.

    • Alexandra1973

      Would it even matter if it was written in Spanish or ebonics? If they can’t even read to begin with….

  • John R

    They need to do a remake of that. Someone goes to the future, and his ship lands. He thinks that he landed in some poverty stricken Third World Hellhole, but then, sees the Statue of Liberty, half buried…

  • LACountyRedneck

    Don’t give the Lotto guys any ideas or there may eventually be an authentic Megga Ghetto Lottery. Mhetto-Lotto?

  • We need higher taxes on yuppie whites to pay this. Since there are 8 million New Yorkers, a $50 per head tax may just break even. This includes the usual Gov’t inefficiency in redistributing wealth. Also it will serve to further diminish the hated white population growth while leading to the future uptopia of a prosperous, happy, all black world.

    Actually NYC has the (or one of the) highest city population growths in the US. People love to move there so they too can help with the wealth redistribution. Thus for 99.9999% of the US population, de Blasio must be doing something right.

  • chuck_2012

    the ability to read and understand may not be needed, ironically, even if equipment is more and more complicated. There may always be a white in the background who can help the black firefighters understand.

  • nignogger

    Now all taxpayers will pay for the poor performance and low IQ of the negroid and lesser degree latino brain.