University-Sponsored Production Glorifies White-Shaming

Katherine Timpf, Campus Reform, January 7, 2014

The University of Oregon (UO) put on a production about race in which one student repeatedly said “I don’t know why I’m white.”

“I didn’t choose to be white. As a matter of fact, I don’t even know why I’m white,” said Eric Braman during the Nov. 13 event.

The production was an an adaptation of National Public Radio host Michele Norris’ “The Race Card Project,” according to the school’s official website.

“How would you distill your thoughts, experiences or observations about race into one sentence that only has six words?” asks the initiative’s official website.

At the start of the production, students read some of these responses, which included everything from “So scared that Zimmerman is Jewish” to “I am fortunate to be Caucasian” to “Nobody asks me about hot sauce.”

Others included “Not all Mexicans can do landscaping,” “Loving my butt and hair? Impossible” and “Embarrassed that I’m afraid of black boys.”

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Braman, who identified himself at the end as a gay white male, described his experience with white guilt after learning about slavery and civil rights in grade school and white privilege in high school.

“I remember being so frustrated and angry that I had privilege just because I was white, and now because of that I had to feel bad about it,” he said. “I didn’t choose to be white. As a matter of fact, I don’t even know why I’m white,” he said, explaining that neither of his parents had shared his specific family history with him.

“Why was I supposed to feel so bad about my whiteness when I didn’t even have any connection to how I got it?”

He said those feelings caused him to exhibit what he called “some pretty ignorant racism.”

“I said it all,” he said. “Everything from ‘No I don’t see color!’ to ‘I got a black friend, I love black people!’ and yes, I even said, ‘Don’t call me white, call me pink, I’m more pink than white!'”

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An option to download a video of the performance is on the UO website.

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  • sbuffalonative

    Six Words:

    Whites are superior to all races

    • dukem1

      We Invented Everything. You Owe Us.

      • Peter Connor

        Reparations!

      • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

        The problem is that this is easily shown to be untrue. The Chinese produced many important inventions before Europeans. The wheel wasn’t invented in Europe but in the Middle East, etc.

        Why not use really good arguments such as; “Slavery has existed throughout human history. Only whites have sought to end it and sacrificed uncounted lives and wealth in the attempt. Whites ought to get praise for this and be owed a debt of gratitude rather than have the fact of slavery in North American history as a point of broad criticisms, especially in the 21st century..”

        • dukem1

          I was. Going for. Six words.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Oh, I thought it had to make sense or be true….

          • dukem1

            Dude. Six words. Six Words, dude.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Welcome to the Amren posting board, dude. Goodnight.

          • BillMillerTime

            I prefer 14 words. 😀

      • Edruezzi

        Yes, you invented everything from about 1450 to about 1985. Since then Asians have been doing a very good job of inventing. Japan files more patents than America, with only a third of the population.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      ““How would you distill your thoughts, experiences or observations about race into one sentence that only has six words?” asks the initiative’s official website.”

      Apologize to nobody for your heritage.

      • me

        Thank God I’m a White person!

    • The Verdict of History

      I must say that our moderators have proved to be rather permissive as of late…

      This comment would not have been allowed 18 months ago.

      Interesting.

    • Edruezzi

      Genetics and science cannot define any “race” or even any species as superior to another. You might think you’re superior to a shark. If we asked a shark what he or she thought, he or she would go, ‘I can smell even droplets of blood from a mile away, and my ancestors were in the water before the ancestors of humans left water, colonized land and they got to the moon. We’re still in the water and still at the top of the food chain.’
      Superiority is in the human mind.

  • WmarkW

    Western Civilization: Whites’ gift to mankind.

    • sbuffalonative

      Without whites, you would have nothing.

      • benvad

        I live in Japan my wife is Japanese and my kids are half & half. The statement couldn’t more true. Race is one indicator but religion/culture also hinder people.

        Buddhism goal is to eliminate desire/want, this is exactly the worst mindset if you want to improve and better yourself.

        Africans just rely on subsisting at best and invasion at worst. They can’t be taught, the are parasitical creatures. Now the next time you see Bob Geldof tell him his music & ideas stink.

        • My take on Buddhism is not that it aspires to eliminate desire, but for the individual to control it on his or her own.

  • Alfred the Great

    “The White race is the best.”

  • dd121

    The anti-white propaganda drills down deep in our society. I suspect that is at least in part why suicides are increasing among young white males.

    • OhWow

      It’s a combination of racial double-standards, negative media portrayals of submissive and chubby white men standing next to black gods, and feminism. With all that swirling around, it’s no wonder.

      • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

        Exactly.

    • Frank_DeScushin

      On one hand, Leftists are always telling us how damaging negative portrayals are to young black men, so they constantly create exaggerated positive images of blacks to lift their self esteem. The Leftists tell us this is necessary for the black psyche. Simultaneously, Leftists are always portraying whites in the worst possible light and feeding them a negative historical images of whites all throughout school. If the the positive images for blacks are done intentionally to lift the black psyche, one can surmise that the negative white images are intentionally done to damage the white psyche. It’s obviously worked on not only the weak seed in this article, but countless others.

      • dd121

        Yeah, it’s a darn shame. Who’s there to catch those boys when they stumble?

        • Troy Swonger

          Their White fathers should be there.

      • ncpride

        What’s more, the negativity has been going on for a very long time. I can remember in my Elementary school days being taught White guilt, and that was back in the mid-seventies, and it’s gotten so much worse since then. They are very open and direct about the anti-White agenda in this country now.

        • Who Me?

          The seventies is when it started, I got it in high school. Class of ’74. They were telling us back then to have no more that 2 children, preferably only one or none–overpopulation, you know. Nary a word about race-replacement. They taught us a lot of other nonsense too.

          • Who Me?

            Another thing, my senior year we had a teacher who wore “African” get-up every day, and our social studies textbook that spring was “I Buried my Heart at Wounded Knee”.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Pretty funny, a teacher wearing native African garb, preaching from BMHAWK. I read that book a long time ago. The bias in the language is pretty plain when it shows up. IF you know how to spot bias in writing it doesn’t hurt you, but rather tells you about the faults of the writer. I think reading it is fine, if you don’t limit yourself to just that. Current Author Jared Diamond, supposedly a historian or social anthropologist compares Wounded Knee to Stalin’s purges and the Nazi Holocaust. Even BMHAWK contains enough to debunk that notion. The book admits that the event was proceeded by the Ghost Dance Outbreak, and it started when the soldiers tried to disarm some Indians by searching their tents. In the “massacre,” around 300 were killed. But the Indians had some guns and were shooting back. Not exactly the same.

            Was there some revenge in the hearts of the soldiers of the 7th Cavalry? Probably, but they didn’t do it gratuitously; the Indians in many places were getting dangerous due to the apocalyptic preachings of the Ghost Dance messiah, Wovoka, who obviously borrowed some ideas from Christianity and Mormonism to come up with his very silly idea that they could dance the white man away, etc. Revenge has always been a part of Amerind culture. Some Amerinds today have some pretty volatile sounding names. I remember “White Man Killer,” during the American Indian Movement occupation of Alcatraz. But at Wooded Knee, when the shooting started they let loose. I think police and soldiers do that pretty much the same today. When a firefight started in Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan, soldiers don’t think about whether its PC to shoot all the people shooting at them, even if they’re hiding behind women and children. Point a gun at a cop and you’ll get shot, right now. Also, I didn’t notice any talk about sparring any whites in any battle or in particular, The Battle of the Little Big Horn. It was always brutal. Brutality and mutilation was a way of taking your enemy’s power from them. When settlers were attacked, everyone was killed or captured, and being captured was often as the book I refer to below is titled, a fate worse than death.

            If I were a teacher in US History, I’d wear a Mountain Man outfit and the books would include things like “My Life On the Plains,” by GA Custer, and Libby Custer’s amazing “Boots and Saddies,” supplemented with the more recent, “A Fate Worse Than Death,” Michno (about whites in captivity from 1840-1880). I make sure that the kids understood what it would be like for them to be in some little cabin with a band of Indians about to break in and kill their father and older brothers and then watch them be scalped and mutilated. Next, would come their own extended ordeals, to grisly to mention here. Now that’s what I call an education in historical reality.

            This was fun to write. Hope you enjoy it.

          • dd121

            The Little Big Horn should be renamed Custer’s Folly. His motive for the way he conducted the attack was his own personal glory. He made every mistake. They had ridden all night so they and the horses were exhausted, he split his force in the face of a superior enemy, he could have waited for reinforcements that would arrive the next day. He got glory alright, just not the way he planned.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Hating Custer is another folly that even whites seem to indulge in as dupes. He was a CW hero that made the critical difference at Gettysburg by preventing Jeb Stuart’s cavalry from arriving on time on the Union rear. Are general’s interested in promoting themselves via their careers, often yes. But the notion that his conduct (what we know of it) was motivated by that is unproven and controversial at best. He was a man of action in face of over cautious Union leaders in the early CW. Courageous bravado ran in the family, his brother won more medals than he did. Why would whites want to put this man down? Only because they are duped by what is probably the first case of historical revision and propaganda.

            The fact of history is that sometimes military disasters happen. The British had a famous one in South Africa in 1879 at Islandlwana that was far more disastrous. It seems vainglorious to so me whites would join in with so little actual knowledge of the details of the actual event. Even BMHAWN gives him some credit for fighting bravely. I recall seeing a very apropos poster of him in the early 1970s. It was Custer with a halo of bullets and read, “Custer Died for Our Sins.”

            I don’t think you know much about the details of the battle. It’s something I have studied and read about periodically throughout my life as it is fascinating to me. For one thing, they didn’t know the size of the encampment, which was unprecedented. Custer used the routine two pronged strategy that had usually been used. Captain Reno failed in his job, that has been well established and Major Benteen was far too casual about bringing up the supply packs and additional support. The soldiers were still being issued cartridges that tended to jam in the breeches of their trap door Springfield single shot rifles while the Indians had a myriad of repeating arms. That was proven in the early 80s when a burn over the battle site allowed for new field archeology studies that identified a plurality of cartridge shells and bullets they used. As for the order of battle, my view is that Custer was likely dealt a mortal wound early in the battle, which is why some soldiers broke and split the command. And of course, General Terry was supposed to rendezvous with them that day and only showed up the next day.

            Whites have no hope if they don’t know their own history.

          • Luca

            In your narrative you have spelled out that Custer made numerous fatal errors. He did things combat officers should never do. I believe he took unnecessary risks, had faulty information, made poor judgement calls and was ill-prepared to take on an enemy that had vastly superior numbers and firepower while his forces were split.

            He was brave but reckless, a deadly combination at times.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            All you’re doing here is repeating an untrue and illogical historical view. No one can really know for certain what he was doing. That he received faulty information was not his fault. Also, no one knew the size of the “village” until too late, we know this from the testimonies of Reno and Benteen.

            Repeating unfounded generalities to me here only proves that you are solidly rooted in attitude and “belief” rather than actual history and known historical analysis.

          • Luca

            Actually, I stand corrected, he did not have faulty information, which makes matters even worse than I previously stated.

            Son of the Morning Star – pg 272: “..Custer and the half-breed scout Mitch Bouyer exchanged a few words. Bouyer said they would find more Indians than they could handle. Custer said if he was afraid he could stay behind. Bouyer replied that he would go wherever Custer went, but if they did enter that valley neither of them would come out alive.”

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            I did not say he did not have faulty information about the size of the village, he had NO information on the village’s size.

            “Son of the Morning Star” is not a history book, but a historical fiction. The film is even worse. It has a bias against Custer that is palpable and was a nod to Amerinds. Many of these sorts of conversations were created for the book’s narrative and have no basis in historical fact. But if you are going to use it, then use it equally pertaining to Custer
            and his officers Benteen and Reno. Some of their key failures in that
            book did happen.

          • Luca

            Aside from the previous mentioned account given by Bouyer there other accounts given by other scouts who were present that day.

            Accompanying Custer and his forces after their separation from Benteen and Reno were four Crow Scouts: Curley, Goes Ahead, Hairy Moccasin and White Man Runs Him. Check them out on Google or Wikipedia for various citations.

            The United States Army and Custer’s widow Libby had begun a public relations campaign to portray Custer as a gallant fallen hero. The Crow scouts depiction of Custer as vainglorious, headstrong, and reckless did not fit with the accepted view of the time. White Man Runs Him, the other surviving scouts, as well as Sioux and Cheyenne warriors told their side of the story to
            photographer and writer Edward S. Curtis in the early 20th Century. His book told their story, but even he left out the more
            controversial parts of the account. It wasn’t until the late 20th Century when Curtis’s private notes became public that most
            historians began to take a second look at Native American accounts of the battle.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            You’ve gone a bridge too far, now.

            I am aware of these scouts and their stories. Indians lie as a habit and exaggerate their own positions, and do it right up to today. So do Mexican Hispanics, “Luca.” Lying is okay if it serves them. That Indians boast and exaggerate is a known thing. Calling Custer out for being vainglorious (which means that he was a man that couldn’t admit he was wrong or ever in error) is rather disingenuous for an Indian to be saying. Indians culture is nothing but an exercize in the vanity and self-glorification.

            BMHAWK has two Amerind interpretation of the battle. They alone demonstrate the extremes that lying can distort facts. One sounds reliable, calm and believable, not reaching for condemnation of Custer, but more in the style of the recognition of a brave man who finally died in battle… in line with the record of Custer and his reputation. The other was derisive and obviously biased to the point of being ridiculous.

            That Libby Custer ran a public relations campaign is an accusation. What she did do was defend her husband at the Court Marshall hearings of Reno and Benteen and the public controversy after the politics and the cheap shots taken at a dead man occurred. She had many supporters and rightly so. People, especially politicians that do this are not particularly heroic types, but the worst of cowards. Libby Custer was a magnificent woman. A read of her book proves it.

            One of those early 20th century historians, in fact THE one you are referring to is Thomas B. Marquis who wrote, “Keep the Last Bullet for Yourself.” He was a Johnny come lately that more or less “went native.” He swallowed up the exaggerated accounts of the battle then and wrote his book, happy to glorify the Indian while denigrating the white man and his representative at the battle, GA Custer. This book has been shown to be in extreme error in many ways and not considered a reliable source at all except to note the political bias still existing and the style of Amerind fabrication.

            One of the things this book focused on was the Indians frustration that the whites never engaged in “coup” touching, something that they considered an demonstration of bravery. Well, as a Quebecois and one who competed on the national level in Fencing (USFA) for many years, I can tell you that “coup” is a French word for “cut,” and the Indians learned this from the French from Quebec when they first came West to trap. My ancestors were some of them. In fencing today as then, a cut or hit is called a “touch,” or touche’ in French. In saber it is called a cut, a coup. “Coup” is NOT an Indian word. It always has annoyed me how Amerinds forget that they were taught this game and Lacrosse from the Quebecois and treat it as their own culture. It was white man’s culture, just as the horse was brought by the white man.

          • dd121

            I think Custer was a brave man and died bravely, even if it was the result of his own bad judgement and hubris. I’ve read quite a bit about the battle (as you) and I spent a day walking the battlefield. The Indians played Custer like a fiddle and forced the remainder of his men up a funnel to the top of a hill where they were annihilated. Personally, I wouldn’t waste a lot of time blaming Reno and Benteen, as his contemporaries did. When it comes to understanding history I think we should be able to identify stupidity when we see it. Even if he was a white man with golden hair.

            The other part of the Custer story is why was he fighting for the north? If the south had won we’d be ruled by white people now and probably wouldn’t be having this conversation. In my view of historiography if Stuart had shot the guy maybe, just maybe the south could have won. And yes, whites have no hope if they don’t know their own history.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Regardless of your claims of reading history, I can’t agree with your conclusions completely. That the Indians “played Custer like a fiddle” is a comment filled with bias based on nothing but bias. Doy you recommend that a force when overwhelmed ought to disperse and go into some sort of “every man for himself” scenario? Your comment doesn’t make any sense from a tactical point of view and again the use of the word “forced” tips a bias in interpreting what was the only tactical choice left.

            I never said that I blamed Benteen or Reno, but Reno was relieved of his command and turned out to be little more than a drunk. As for Custer being some sort of fool, if you read his book, “My Life on the Plains,” you’d understand that he was well-educated and quite eloquent and FAIR in his duties and attitudes toward the Indians.

            I think your comment about the CSA is silly. The CSA proved it was not what it thought it was when it began to conscript Southerners from all the states. They had to face the fact that federal, central government was going to be a fact. The CSA Congress were a corrupt and ineffective body within two years of their creation. Also, I dispute the notion that the South would have seen America emerge to a better state than it is today. I believe that it would have turned out much the same because the slaves would have had to be freed due to international pressure. I really think that your bias against Custer is exactly that he personally helped defeat the South. Holding these sort of grudges is not only useless, but also a contributing factor to the inability to interpret history and related matters.

          • dd121

            You’re welcome to your opinion. I suspect that English is your 2nd or 3rd language and you’re not an American. I think I understand this country and its history better than you.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Yeah, you think that English isn’t my first language? Not only am I born here and probably a lot older than you, but I am descended from historical figures. Let me gleefully inform you;

            On my paternal great grandmother’s side, I am descended directly from a Anna Hill Carter, who married a certain fellow named Henry “Light Horse Harry” Lee. I guess I don’t have to tell you who their son was, do I? On that same line of descent is a descent from the Reverend Thomas Carter, the first man to be an ordained minister in the American Colonies – 1630. The rest of my line is French Quebecois, and I am descended directly father to son from a man who is listed on the Falaise Roll of Companions of William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings.

            I don’t think you understand anything but your need to find an excuse for yourself.

          • dd121

            Your posts will be received better here and the internet in general if you stop being so condescending and insulting. Bad internet etiquette.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Ha, practice what you preach. But I don’t worry about such things. I’m mild compared to the majority of posters here and on other boards. That I hit the nail on the head hard, is not a fault in me, but the reactionary habits of people like you are prickled. And BTW, I’ve been posting on this board since 2006.

          • Luca

            He also should have taken Gatling guns and Winchester repeating rifles rather than single shot Springfield rifles.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            He didn’t have the option of Winchesters according to U.S. Army rules and Gatling guns and artillery were not practical for the terrain they had to traverse. The government issue cartridges tended to get stuck in the breeches as I noted already. Custer wrote of his frustrations with the lack of modernization in the military. The fact is that the government didn’t care too much about the military by 1876 and was using old supplies left over from the CW. Custer was used to being forced to pursue Amerinds and have a quick response cavalry. It’s comparable to expecting B-17s to pursue and kill fighters in WW2.

          • Luca

            True enough, the Gatlings were cumbersome but the only reason Custer didn’t take them was because he appeared to be in a rush and didn’t want to be slowed down. Even when some equipment became loose on the pack horses he cut the equipment loose rather than stopping to re-tie it. His haste was unwarranted and reckless. He could have taken at least one Gatling gun per comany, that would not have been too much trouble and when the fight began I’m sure he wished he had.

            The Springfields were government issue, but officers and troopers were allowed to bring anything into battle they wanted provided they were privately paid for.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I like how our boys manhandled the gatlings they had uphill and under fire in the Spanish American war on San Juan hill.

            Ironic that the slightly antiquated black powder rifles we used in that splendid little war, though they gave up our positions, also functioned as something of a smokescreen against the Spanish soldiers armed with smokeless powder Mausers.

          • Luca

            The Gatlings clearly won the day in that battle. Our boys were shouldering the 30-40 Krag and firing smokeless powder cartridges. It was our artillery that was using black powder.

            The Mauser is an awesome weapon, the Spaniards were using the 7mm version. I own an 8mm from post WW2 and it is balls on accurate although a bit heavy by modern standards..

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Two years ago, I sold the 8mm K98 Mauser I owned as well as the mint condition 7,65mm Argentine Mauser I had owned for 15 years. When I was a kid, my deer rifle was a sporterized battlefield captured K98. It even had nazi eagles stamped on it and 1943 stamped on the breech. I still own two Brit ,303s one military with bayonet and a Mosin Nagant. All these rest are more modern military or sporter guns.

          • My first centerfire rifle was a 7.65 Argentine model 1891. That caliber is what got me into case-forming and handloading.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            I had the later one. Beautiful rifles, in fact nearly unmatched, except for certain Manlichers.

          • My favorite cartridge. My favorite reload for it was the 185 grain Remington PSPCL softnosed bullet in front of 45 grains of H-4895 powder and a CCI large rifle primer.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Our rifles were smokeless? OK, had that wrong. I’ve always been interested in the Colt Browning model 1895 6mm MG. Potato digger it was called because the rather poorly thought out action caused levers to kick up dirt, but it was lightweight and advanced for it’s time, air cooled but slow rate of fire. Lost out eventually to the Maxim.

          • Only the regulars and TR’s “Rough Riders” had smokeless Krags.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            I have never read or heard that troops were allowed to bring any weapon they wanted into battle. Government Issue means just that. The officers bought better cartridges, but the troops had to use what was issued. During the CW, troops could and did use whatever they found for free on battlefields, etc., but in the Indian Wars, this wasn’t the case. If you disagree, please cite me a historical source. If you can, I will concede. But the next barrier would be, so how many soldiers could afford to buy something else?

            The Winchesters of the time were light caliber and the U.S. Army desired a rifle with more hitting power and more distance capability. That scene in “Dances with Wolves” of Dunbar shooting buffalo with a Henry rifle is hilarious and always made me groan, as the entire film did.

          • Luca

            The narrative of John M. Ryan 1st Sgt “M” Company (in Graham 2000 p239) shows the use of non-issue long-range weapons during the battle. Ryan relates that during the fighting with Reno’s command on the bluffs, Captain French was armed with a Springfield breech-loading rifle of .50 calibre, but after firing at an Indian three times, he become so discouraged that he abandoned his rifle.

            Lieutenant James Calhoun of Company L wrote in his diary on July 1, 1874: ‘The new Springfield arms and ammunition were issued to the command today. They seem to give great satisfaction.’ Although most of the men drew the standard-issue weapons, it was their prerogative to purchase their own arms. George Custer carried a Remington .50-caliber sporting rifle with octagonal barrel and two revolvers that were not standard issue–possibly Webley British Bulldog, double-action, white-handled revolvers. Captain Thomas A. French of Company M carried a .50-caliber Springfield that his men called ‘Long Tom.’ Sergeant John Ryan, also of Company M, used a .45-caliber, 15-pound Sharps telescopic rifle, specially made for him. Private Henry A. Bailey of Company I had a preference for a Dexter Smith, breech loading, single-barreled shotgun. -History.Net – Battle of Little Bighorn, Were Weapons a Deciding Factor?

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            That’s what I like, sourced replies. Looks like more stuff has gone up since I last looked. It does confirm the preference for long range single shot rifles. I don’t think that this overturns the problem of the copper shell casings. They may have liked the bullet, but with use, the copper would expand and cause the Springfields to jam. Custer mentions it, too and after 1874 and as the battle was approaching, to General Terry, I think.

            That they didn’t choose Winchesters or Henry’s for the reasons I stated and that they were used to shooting at Indians at long range is what most encumbered them in close combat.. I know about Custer’s gun collection. I made a mistake and did not mention that while I knew that officers could bring their own preferred weapons, I didn’t think that enlisted men were allowed to. I appear to have been wrong on that, but not many acquired anything but the government issue and no one but one example here preferred a repeating, magazine rifle. What I don’t get is why the enlisted soldiers didn’t carry sidearms. This would have helped, but the combatant number ratio was still against them.

            The archeological dig done after the fire (early 80s) determined that the Indians had more diverse types of guns and many repeating weapons. So weapons seems to have made the difference. But numbers would have been a deciding factor, too. At least in the open as they were. I suppose you know about Roark”s Drift in 1879 where a little over 100 British troops held off 3,000+ Zulus for 12 hours? This after 1,300+ British troops were wiped out by the same group because they were encamped in the open with no defense. Who knows what would have happened if Custer had a defensible position near enough to get to in time. You must also know that many consider that Reno’s company survived only because Custer drew off enough for them to get to their defensive position. It could have been the other way around and the infamous battle would merely be an event where Custer almost was defeated.

          • Luca

            Few enlisted men had the resources to buy personal weapons and ammunition, the lucky ones did. The officers being paid better and usually from wealthier families had the advantage.

            The battle field excavations you speak of also revealed that only about 3 to 4% of the copper casings showed evidence of having been pried out after jamming. Mathematically that is not a tremendous number but when you are in a heated fire-fight every split second counts. Copper were a factor but not a deciding one.

            In the History.Net article I cited earlier it states that It is well-known that Custer’s men each brought a trapdoor Springfield and a Colt .45 to the Little Bighorn.

            The Army didn’t want the repeating rifles because of the logistical problem of supplying so much ammunition over such a long supply line. However, they could have assigned each platoon leader and/or NCO with one and it would have increased the odds considerably and would not have impacted the logistics.

            The Indians had every weapon under the sun but most accounts I have read claim that about half went into battle with a bow and arrow.

            I generally don’t follow British history but it sounds interesting so now I will research it. Thanks.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            It has been a while since I read that stuff. And now it’s posted online, so you can go there and make your arguments here in one minute. But there’s more to understanding history than just statistics.

            So it had to be the numbers then and the fact that they were in the open, as the thing has always been considered.

            If you don’t follow British history, what are you doing, posting here? All history, especially Western history is important if you want to understand the conditions of the present. Whether there were 4% or 50% copper cases at the LBH isn”t a deciding factor in history however.

          • Yes; there is not the slightest comparison between the .45″ pistol round used by the Winchester repeating carbines and the .45″ rifle round used in the single-shot “trapdoor” Springfields.

            In my old collection, my hunting rifle was in the old .45-70 rifle chambering.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            The 45/70 round was the Buffalo round, was it not? Awesome cartridge. But as you know, it was learned that a lighter cartridge for auto weapons was more effective battle caliber.

          • That was military. The buffalo rounds went up to 45/120, which used a 3.25 inch brass case. I think there was a 50/140, but it was introduced only after the big herds had been mostly cleaned out.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Like I said, Custer was used to having to move quickly and pursue fleeing Indians. It’s easy to look back at things and say “if” and “should have” – “only if”… we all do it, but no one should blame Custer they way they so gratuitously tend to. it’s not really honest.

          • Luca

            After reading much on all sides of the aisle, my opinion is he was brave, fearless, but vain and a bit reckless. At Little Big Horn he seems to have placed expediency above reason. His tactics that day are inexplicable.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            I will allow that he was a bit of a “rock star” with a rock star’s ego, but I don’t agree with it all the way and as you do. If you read his book, you’d know that he was capable of careful and eloquent thought. Again, judging from more than a 100 years away and with less than a sympathetic attitude and accepting all sources as equal regardless of it quality, you can come to some of your conclusions. I think he was just unlucky that day and the timing was off and the geographical layout not what was expected and it caused a disaster. There is no reason to pursue it further than that unless you are in need of an emotional payback in it.

          • dd121

            There’s no question he was traveling lite to make time. Just another of his mistakes.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            What a stubborn mind you have! He had learned that he had to travel light to catch the Indians. This was the one exception. If he had done what you suggest, he would have never engaged the Indians anywhere. Can’t you figure that out, without someone pointing it out to you?

          • LACounty

            Well said. Books noted.

          • KevinPhillipsBong

            When I was in 6th grade, I performed in a production of “The Diary of Anne Frank.” Yeesh…

          • dodger

            Ah, a work of fiction.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Whites like you are an embarrassment. Learn to pick battles you can win.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Well, back then and up to the early 90s, there was a real concern about world overpopulation. There was an organization called Zero-Population Growth. That’s where the formula for two children came from. They even had it down to something like 2.3. It wasn’t that anyone was thinking of race, what happened was that mostly only whites got the message. Everyone else kept on breeding like bunnies. Then, China made their one baby rule. It became communist (somehow) to limit your baby production. Then as the number of Hispanics increased with their rapid fire wombs, it became un PC to talk down large numbers of kids, even when they’re on welfare. Eventually, the discussion about world over-population stopped, but the growth hasn’t and it is a time bomb.

            I really don’t think it is as much that whites don’t have enough babies, it is that non-whites have WAAAAY too many. On top of that, they drain whites everywhere and in every way. If we aren’t directly paying the price for them right where we live in our own countries, even in our own families, we’re spending blood and money on them elsewhere. That can’t be kept up forever and there are signs of exhaustion beginning to show up. When the white population gets down under 10% of the world, the S will hit the fan and in a big way.

        • DonReynolds

          I missed it entirely. I guess it shows.

  • Druid

    In ten years, these young White people will be full fledged White Nationalists…

    • Anon

      Aren’t they already? How many of them so much as see a black person on a typical day?

      • 1stworlder

        Once they see as many black people in real life than they see Professor Doctor Rocket Surgeon Blacks on TV they will wake up.

      • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

        Turn on a tv and all you see if black, black, black. I’ve really started to avoid tv. In fact, I went to air reception and just watch old movies or programs. My wife and I just watched the incredible Russian film “1612” tonight. It was with subtitles, but I highly recommend it. A good bit of historical orientation is gained from it as well.

        • saxonsun

          I hear the next James Bond might be the British black Idris Alba. Utter blasphemy.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Not to chide you, but “British black” is an oxymoron. Yeah, “Twelve Years a Slave,” etc. I happened to surf past that show with David Spade on it and he was in a bar hitting on a beautiful blond from the Czech Republic. She had a boyfriend, a black basketball player who was used to intimidate Spade’s character and show him up again (that show seems to be all about David Spade as the white “Step and Fetch-it”).

          • NeanderthalDNA

            He ceased being remotely funny when Chris Farley “fat-comedianed” himself to death and transmigrated his soul to Rob Ford, illustrious crack head white throwback mayor of the future New Detroit (Toronto).

        • LACounty

          I watch the old “White” movies on TCM. I could do without 99% of the stations my supplier provides. Also Encore Westerns. Want to drop cable completely eventually and go off the internet and rabbit ears.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            I got rid of my satellite service last year and I don’t miss it or the bill at all. You can get an HD air box at your Home Depot or Lowes for around $50. Far better than rabbit ears. The box you need is available at Radio Shack. Worth it. I also have a computer hooked up to my tv so I can watch all sorts of things on my big screen. You won’t miss any of the junk out here right now.

          • LACounty

            Sounds good. Don’t remember what I’m spending on cable, but it’s a waste. Looking forward to getting that air ant. and RS box and seeing what happens. Right now I take my laptop to the bigscreen for net viewing but I want to hook up something more permanent. Don’t think the TV has a wireless feed. It’s only about 6 mnths old.

        • We don’t even watch air broadcast TV. Movies on DVD, don’t ya know.

    • D.B. Cooper

      The gay boy is a lost cause, and the unattractive girls will be femnazis.

      • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

        Okay, but Gloria Steinem was a very attractive woman as was Patricia Ireland and many of the other leaders of NOW. I have met many lesbians in my time that were very attractive and feminazis through and through. There’s one on the Morning Show on CBS who does a spot on women everyday without fail.

    • OhWow

      My family used to tell me “In college, it’s cool to be liberal…then when you graduate, live life a bit, and have a real job you learn you are conservative”.

      • Jim Barlow

        I always heard – “you’ll be liberal until you make your first paycheck!”

        • Troy Swonger

          An anti gun lib is someone who hasn’t been mugged yet.

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          Come on, guys, there are lots of liberals out there that make a lot of money and/or are very wealthy. Bill Gates for one. I think you are trapping yourself in an exclusive blue color world view.

      • dd121

        I was a right wing Neanderthal even in high school. Much more than my parents. Guess I’m just a lovely freak of nature.

    • AutomaticSlim

      Why would you think that?
      The hippies have had almost 50 years and they haven’t changed yet.
      Those old goats and bags are as liberal as ever.

      • Druid

        Yes, they rebelled from what their parents were, and in due time, their children will rebell against the baby boomers/former hippies

        • Who Me?

          Considering they were in their late teens or early 20’s before they “turned into hippies”, that would make them in their late 60’s or older now. Their children are long since grown and their grandchildren are young adults now. The second half of the baby boomers were born between 1956 and 1964. That generation grew up in the 1970’s and for the most part watched the antics of the “hippies” and “flower children”, the “civil rights workers” and the “Freedom “Riders”, “freedom marchers”, “sit-in’s”, race riots, and multiple assassinations etc. from the safety of their childhood homes, being (thankfully) too young to participate in the idiocy that was the 1960’s.

          • bilderbuster

            They weren’t much better.
            They became teenage Disco Ducks.

          • Who Me?

            Exactly! I too was born in ’56. We were too young to get caught up in the worst excesses of the 60’s and just a wee bit too old for the brainwashing that started in the 70’s to get a good hold on us, as we were in or starting high school by then. But those of us our age, we watched and we wondered.

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          They’re already grandparents. They did much better in many ways compared to their parents, by at least trying a lot harder.

          As one of them, I’ll tell you, there was a lot to rebel about. You just don’t know what they were like. You take a lot of things for granted. Most smoked, so we grew up in smokey environments with parents who were often addicted to nicotine and caffeine. They didn’t just throw their cigarette butts on the ground or floor wherever they were, they threw everything, everywhere. Look at a newsreel or documentary from the period or a film made ont he streets, trash everywhere. Dumping anywhere was popular. Corporations dumped poisonous chemicals anywhere they pleased. DDT killing off wildlife. The Bald Eagle almost went extinct. ALL of the cleaner conditions we enjoy today are the result of concerned people of the Boomer generation. Many parents were gratuitously corporal in their discipline, kids got beaten and no one did anything about it. Parents tended to not be gentle, but harsh. You didn’t speak back to any adult. (Today the idea of respecting your elders is non-existent). They tended to treat school as a baby-sitting service and didn’t care much about the curriculum or whether their kids were doing well or not (although most kids were good students and never missed school, etc.). Gas had lead it in, the air was full of lead fumes and it was a growing problem with more and more cars going on the road every year. The list of things is almost endless. It would be easy to go on and on, but if you weren’t there and didn’t know how things were, you can’t appreciate why it couldn’t stay the same. The problem is that that change was usurped.

          Remember, Boomers didn’t create the conditions of the 60s, they grew up in them or came to young adulthood during it. Government corruption was there, the drugs were there via the mafia that cops and politicians had made deals with CIA drug experiments that were carried out on the public, (see, “Acid Dreams, the Complete Social History of LSD, the CIA, the Sixties, and Beyond”). The Cold War was very hot. The threat of a nuclear war was an every day thing. TV shows often used it as a theme, the feeling of an immediate doomsday was there and influenced everything. Plots of kill JFT, then two more assassinations. Commies and right wing whacks like Goldwater who thought nothing of using nukes in Vietnam (why Johnson won in ’64) over shadow the polarized politics of today. BTW, Kissinger had to talk Nixon out of using them. CRAZY. Then, we had that war that has been proven to be little more than a way for the Military Industrial Complex to grab big bucks. Just consider how much you’d enjoy knowing that you’re probably going to be selected and pressed into service and sent to a war that had no real objective, was run ridiculously and totally corrupt, and was killing lots of boys your age AND YOU”RE NEXT like it or not.

          Due to the abuses of the older generation, power vacuums opened up. Many kids honestly tried to make something better, but communists infiltrated and gained organizational control every time. All the founding feminists of NOW were members of the Communist Party USA. They were behind the Civil Rights Movement and inciting riots by taunted whites in the South. In 1968 2,500 riots nationwide. In case you didn’t know it, black found that picking on white hippies was easy. Many hippies learned that blacks weren’t so great to be around then. That’s why they left cities for more rural locations beginning in 1968. Young people were often blind sided by older, manipulative people. It’s true whether you’re talking about Timothy Leary or Richard Nixon. Leaders of that time were incredible liars (it’s history now) and some young people were just not THAT dumb to not notice it.

          It’s always easy to look back and pretend you’d do better, but what I see today is people being far worse in every way because people on all sides are so thoroughly full of political and historical myth – everyone.

      • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

        Many of them rebelled against the rebellion eventually. It is a far more complex story than that. Some of the most liberal people I knew, hippies, became more conservative once they had kids. The ones that didn’t raised kids that got into trouble, did drugs and grew up and had kids. The worst thing to come out of the Sixties was the Feminist Movement. It is behind the worst stuff that is going on today and it has poisoned most females beyond cure.

    • It’ll likely happen even sooner than that. Just wait until they graduate and hit a job market saturated with AA incompetoids and H-1b drones.

  • Garrett Brown

    “Why are you so brainwashed son?”

  • Alexandra1973

    I feel blessed to be white.

    Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

  • Ograf

    White nationalism is the only way!

  • Anon

    From Stanley Kubbrik’s Full Metal Jacket:
    All f****** n****** must f****** hang!

    • LACounty

      Enemy ammo.

      • Spartacus

        The moment you care about what the enemy thinks is the moment you’ve already lost .

        • LACounty

          Sorry, Spartacus. KKK all the way. Is that better?

        • Andy

          That’s not caring what the enemy thinks. That’s caring what the enemy can use to make potential allies think what they want.

          • LACounty

            Exactly. That’s why I referred to it as “ammo”. I honestly don’t care what the enemy thinks.

        • Troy Swonger

          True, I will not apologize if someone calls me a racist. Be Pro-White and proud.

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          Wrong, the best way to be victorious over your enemy is to know his mind – Sun Tzu.

          If you only pay attention to what agrees with your own position the tendency is to narrow your view until it becomes inapplicable in the real world.

          • LACounty

            Correct, Whiteplight. Quoting from “Full Metal jacket”, that “All F**king N*****s must F**king hang” isn’t going to gain us many troups especially those that haven’t had Diversity training, and those on the fence. We need more Whites on our side. Posting KKK extremist type stuff will get to the media and make Amren look like another group of wanna be N killers. What good will that do? We’re all on the same side here.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            I might even say that it is preventing many whites from joining up right now. It is very difficult for me to plow through such continuous, eminent embarrassments that have to deter many whites that are almost there, but find the moronic, extreme comments intellectually repelling.

          • LACounty

            Exactly. That’s why I’m here and not on some low IQ “kill ’em all” site. I want to associate with people smarter than myself so that I can continue my education.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Don’t be afraid of real history or facing facts. Only whites afraid of the truth have to avoid it. We come out just fine, but we’d do better as a group now if we had the courage to correct some of our own faults.

      • Anon

        There is a reason I posted such an inflammatory response, other than humor. And your comment is as good a time as any to bring it up.
        This is not a war of words. It’s not about who is moral and who is not. It has nothing to do with somehow convincing others to come over to our side.
        This is a genocidal race war not of our choosing where our enemy intends to kill us, all of us, and, in the end, it will require that we do the same to them first. It’s not what we want. It’s not what we would choose. But we are not given a choice and our enemy is not impressed by fancy words and attempts to be holier than thou. Our enemies are satan worshipping cannibals.
        And those on the fence are sheep. They absolutely will not fall on our side of the fence if we are “nice”. They will, however, fall into line if we displace power, ruthlessness and not only do not mince words, we do not tolerate backtalk or discussion on the matter. That is what impresses people.
        You think this is “enemy ammo”, I say, not only are you wrong, but you are weak. You use this as an excuse to not think in such terms.
        But you have no choice. It’s that or death, my friend.

        • LACounty

          I’m all for attacking our enemy from all angles, and by every existing Pro-White organization. Our number one enemy are this country’s White leaders. Hanging Bantus or talking about it isn’t going to improve our situation. Illegal immigration is more damaging.
          Blacks and illegals are doing what they do because of our mostly White leaders. Put a rope around the neck of that snake and you’ll solve some major problems. If we had Pro-White leaders with a little less estrogen, we’d be in much better shape.

          • ncpride

            I agree. I think White race traitors are the most contemptible people on earth, and have caused us untold damage. They will pay the price for it eventually.

          • LACounty

            Yeah. I’m interested in blueprints for the next revolution. Not in negotiating a knockout game truce with bantus. Solving Black on White attacks isn’t done on paper. How many of them even read? You solve the knockout game with lead injections. That’s what they’ll eventually understand. if our only problem was Blacks, it would be easy. Have to attack the head of the snake. Remove these destructive leaders by any means. Sitting back and bitching can only go so far. Those leaders obviously wouldn’t mind a race war. Anything to drain us so they have even more power over us. But that isn’t our ultimate goal. And the longer we wait, the tougher it will get. So who has a set of those plans? I need a copy.

          • Spartacus
          • LACounty

            Thanks, Spartacus. I’d heard about the Turner Diaries. Listening to it as we type.

          • Spartacus

            Glad to be of assistance. You can also get the good Doctor’s other novel, “Hunter”, on that site, albeit it’s only available as text .

          • Troy Swonger

            It is sad how our “White” leaders sell us out to numerous different hostile tribes on a daily basis. Treasonous traitors, as far as I am concerned. They should be dealt with accordingly.

          • DonReynolds

            Tell the FBI, we already provided them last week.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “Tell the FBI, we already provided them last week.”

            They don’t understand our ideology, so they do not know exactly how we will apply the tactics.

          • LACounty

            When you have tried for decades and things are only getting much worse, you get more involved. You will feel that way as you get older.
            Non-violence will not save Whites. Trust me. I’m not suggesting we all grab our guns and start marching. I’m suggestion that that’s what it will take. It may not happen next year or in five or ten years, but it will happen. You’ll likely be around when it does, along with my kids and grandkids.
            “I really opt for non-violent change.” A sweet dream.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            LACounty: “When you have tried for decades and things are only getting much worse, you get more involved. You will feel that way as you get older. […] A sweet dream.”

            Thanks for indicating my libtard fallacy, and yes, I am young and inexperienced. I need to learn from the experience of the elders.

          • LACounty

            You’re much more advanced re. race than I was at 23 or that most are today at any age. If most people around your age were like you, I would feel confidant about our future. With time on this site, if you’re for real, you will gain trust. I know you understand. With your pic and name, some people assume you are a plant, so you’ll have to be a little patient to gain trust here. It’s happened on many sites. If you would have come in with no pic and a average name, people would not have as much reason to be suspicious. Good luck and continue educating others.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            LACounty: “So who has a set of those plans? I need a copy.”

            1. Make a serious effort to convert a certain amount of people every week. Converting a society will lead to revolution.
            A. Do it like the Jehovah’s witnesses do it. Their technique is annoying, but it works.
            B. You could also use techniques like those of the Christians. Those techniques might be milder than those of the Jehovah’s witnesses.
            C. We should learn from all the historical effects and examples of conversion. Christianity is a perfect example. We should make a serious historical study of Christianity for this purpose.

            2. Infiltrate existing organisations.
            A. Infilitrate every organisation that educates people, e.g. Churches, schools, local media, etc.
            B. Infiltrate organisations that are hostile to our movement. You know which ones.

            3. Make new organisations and form a unity.
            A. Making so-called progressive organisations will cause our movement to be associated with “modernity”, and our movement will be seen as an indelible process of modernity.
            B. Making ordinary organisations for many different purposes. Such ordinary organisations need to be products of our ideology.

            4. Attracting more intellectuals to write more books which explain and support our movement.
            A. See point 2
            B. We need to hand out books for free (like those of prof. Kevin MacDonald, prof. Richard Lynn, etc.)

            5. We need more lawyers, because we need to protect ourselves legally as long as it takes to change society.

          • Jeroniomus

            I saw a discussion looking for “what to do.” In 14 years in this movement, I have been studying this “what to do, what to do?”

            My conclusion is based on niche theory — we need to go after the niches that the Asians are taking — owning gas stations and convenience stores and taxi companies and dry cleaning.

            They are taking those niches and we are letting them. We need to occupy those niches with extreme prejudice, and make sure to hire White Americans and help our own people, and in doing so, take away those niches from the invasives. If we own all the small businesses in an area, the Vaishya type market dominant minority invasives won’t have any reason to be among us.

            That’s what we can do now to wage legal, non-violent and successful race war.

          • Troy Swonger

            They are no better than the naggers that they love so much, worthless to us.

          • Troy Swonger

            You speak the truth. Do not think that the republican party is our ally. They all bow to their jooish masters. It doesn’t matter what party they are from.

          • BillMillerTime

            As Richard Spencer pointed out at AmRenCon 2013, even if ALL non-white immigration into America stopped, we would still end up being a minority in our own country in a few decades.

          • LACounty

            I’m going to try to get to this year’s conference. I’ve never been to one and it’s about time.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “we would still end up being a minority in our own country in a few decades.”

            I have seen some of Richard Spencer’s videos. I think that he meant more Western countries than just the USA. I do not know which percentage of immigrants in our nations with which immigrant and native birth rate would bring about such a change in a few decades, but I think that it should be easy to calculate.

          • BillMillerTime

            Richard Spencer told me this April 2013, and he was referring specifically to America. Census factor shows that births to non-whites began to exceed births to whites in 2012.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “Census factor shows that births to non-whites began to exceed births to whites in 2012.”

            That is worse than in Denmark for example. Prof. Helmuth Nyborg estimates that births to non-Whites will exceed births to Whites in 2072. I think in that case that it is safe that say that the USA will be the first formerly White nation to be transformed into the multicultultural mode, as the anti-White Barbara Spectre puts it. Really frightening.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “If we had Pro-White leaders with a little less estrogen, we’d be in much better shape.”

            It is hard to be unemotional about something, but I think that it could be achieved through psychological training. We should perhaps find a pro-White psychologist and ask him to write a book on pro-White leadership.

          • LACounty

            That’s fine. While strong intelligent White men (and women) with steel balls organize, you work on finding that psychologist. 🙂

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            LOL, let’s invert the roles. You look for the psycho and I join the others. But OK, it does indeed seem a little senseless to look for the psycho. ;D

          • OhWow

            I’m in a graduate Psych program and I can tell you that unfortunately the field is brainwashed as well. There are some who are research freaks and privately know the racial IQ differences but would never admit it in public. But I was forced to take a Diversity course which was essentially 2 hours of anti-white drivel. Also, the up to date excuse for black failure on IQ tests is pinned on a study that claimed that in white homes, white children hear 1 million more words and can communicate much better than in minority families. They claim that it’s all socioeconomics…the poorer you are, the less a child is spoken to at home and engaged in conversation, hindering their development.

            Now obviously you will say, “So how does that relate to IQ? That sounds like social adaptation rather than intelligence”. And that’s exactly what I say too. I wanted to raise my hand so badly and challenge my professor on the issue, but I would probably be kicked out of the program for suggesting IQ varies by race on average due to genetics. In some of my classes they actually bring that up and say it’s been disproven and the studies that purported to prove the differences were invalid. They will never admit it.

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          There’s a larger potential discussion about the ongoing systematic genocide, with the possibility of a two way struggle that contends that whites started it. I am not trying to nullify the notion that whites need to be aware of it and defend themselves in many ways, but I do recognize all sides and the history of the issue. Regardless of that, I think that whites have the right and ought to be aware and defend themselves socially and physically when they must. However, I do think that the idea that we have to “strike first” is problematic, at least if you mean it literally. For now, whites must be defensive and not present the specter of racial neurosis acting out as a shooter at a mall or acting in any way like blacks do routinely. If we really are better than them, we have to show it and to ourselves. A disciplined soldier holds his fire until the time is right.

      • 1stworlder

        actually rope is a reusable sustainable green resource.

        • LACounty

          Lead is also reusable.

    • Capt. Bryant

      And don’t forget when animal mother said Hey jungle bunny thank God for the sickle Cell

    • Berkeley Guy

      What was the point of your comment? Those six bleeped-out words sound silly.

  • WmarkW

    What whites built, others want in.

    • Katherine McChesney

      The S. E. Asians want to be just like us. It’s the reason they steal our inventions and make them their own.

  • bigone4u

    “The white race is the best.” That answer gets an F in the assignment, along with an admission slip to see the university headshrinker to choke off a budding young nazi. “The white race is evil.” That answer gets an A and a pat on the back.

    The bigger question is whether the assingment is legit. I think not. Universities are for learning, not about exposing one’s private thoughts in a hostile evironment. If the assingment was to put your thoughts about your penis on one sentence, at least some people would see how nonsensical the assingment is. Of course, feminists do the same sort of thing, such as having females put their thoughts about their vaginas in a sentence. None of this is learning. It’s all feminine sensitivity training. Reject it, America.

  • MekongDelta69

    “[AmRen Posters] were asked to express their feelings about race in six words.”

    Race hustling is a big business.

    • Brian

      “Al Sharpton can kiss my grits.”

      • Erasmus

        How about a race empowering Haiku.?

        Get out of my hood,
        you ignorant, lazy buck.
        Go get a real job.

        • I once won a prize in a Dr. Seuss haiku contest with:

          Green eggs and green ham?
          G.I. I am, so I eat
          powdered eggs and Spam.

          I’d have to think a bit about race-empowerment as a subject.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Ugghh. This guy (girl?) Braman is already a ruined casualty. He has been beaten down to the point of no return.

    If you REALLY want to get your point across, type in theracecardproject and dont-know-im-white/ You get to read all about the pathetic Eric Braman in all of his invertebrate righteousness.

    Mine should be the very first comment.
    So, what turned Eric into an Erica wannabe?

    • Bunky

      He’s queer. He just wants to be a non-race specific queer.
      Queer used to be the operating word for a reason.

    • Jim Barlow

      He gets off on feeling superior because he’s so “enlightened” and can “see beyond race/sexuality barriers”.

      Braman wants you to inherently revere him because he’s a “unique individual” and “brave enough to keep an open mind” – when in fact it’s the exact opposite.

      • Brian

        Can we nominate people for the Knockout Game?

    • Erasmus

      Braman should go into da ‘hood and let himself get gang-banged by da brothas if he really wants to prove he’s not rayciss.

      • He could give himself extra points for being “enlightened” later, once the doctors tell him he had contracted both anal herpes and HIV as a result.

  • DonReynolds

    I’M DREAMING OF A WHITE CHRISTMAS

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      “I’m” (I am) is two words.

      • Garrett Brown

        No, a contraction is technically one word.

      • DonReynolds

        It is a contraction. I guess you better give me a failing grade on this silly assignment. Where are your six funny words, Franklin? I do not see them.

  • Jesse James

    One tree, one rope, one professor.

    • dd121

      I believe in recycling.

      • Does that mean we get to feed them to pigs?

        • So CAL Snowman

          “You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies’ digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don’t want to go sievin’ through pig feces, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, “as greedy as a pig”.

          • jane johnson

            Q: Where’s Bellcurvius?

            A: He went to sh** and the hogs ate him.

            It’s an old Southern expression with a lot of truth behind it.

          • Katherine McChesney

            My Southern mother told me that a man who was a friend of her parents dropped dead in his hog pen. When someone went to find him he had been cannibalized by his pigs.

          • Whitetrashgang

            I was thinking we should start our own colonies like the Amish etc. But go high tech where possible and just have a qualifier like you have to have a IQ of at least 100 or cant smoke dope or something to keep out the riff raft. The pig farm thing is what some of those colonies do, just made me think that’s all.

          • TeutonicKnight67

            I’ve been pondering the same thing. I call it “The Enclave Strategy”, wherein groups of realist whites move to rural communities or start new communities from scratch so they can control the local law enforcement and schools, elect judges etc and bar the “riff raff” from emigrating.

          • Berkeley Guy

            The problem with this type of strategy is that the community is part of a larger one. If you are successful, and the community is known as a nice place to live, then eventually others will find ways to penetrate. Not to mention long-term risks of eminent domain for building highways, etc. And if anyone shows pride there in it being a ‘white-town’ or something similar, then as the demographics of America change over the next few decades, people can just vote for new legal ways to grab your resources.

          • Non Humans

            Oh, you saw the movie Snatch as well?

        • dd121

          Yuck!

    • CharlesFinley

      “senior lecturer”.

    • 1stworlder

      Trees can hold many.

  • ncpride

    What other race is so brainwashed that they are constantly expected to hate themselves seemly oblivious to how ridiculous it sounds? Here are six words for you, Eric……’You don’t speak for me, nitwit.’

  • Jesse James

    Academics are traitors to western civilization.

  • LACounty

    How does Diversity benefit White folks?

    • dodger

      It doesn’t. It’s intended to destroy the White race.

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      “How does Diversity benefit White folks?”

      They forgot to explain that when they thought of their final solution for White people… I guess that a concept that is designed to eradicate another concept is not meant to be beneficial to the latter concept.

  • Lewis33

    So glad NPR gets my money.

  • odious liberal

    Whining and sniveling homos are too funny.

  • Spartacus

    “I said it all,” he said. “Everything from ‘No I don’t see color!’ to ‘I
    got a black friend, I love black people!’ and yes, I even said, ‘Don’t
    call me white, call me pink, I’m more pink than white!’”

    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    I’ll call you red when you’re on the ground, covered in blood. Will that make you feel better ?

    • Tim_in_Indiana

      He already is Red.

      • Spartacus

        Yes, he is. But not in the way I want him to be .

  • Spartacus

    “Don’t send your children to school. “

  • DaveMed

    Sorry – your card is maxed out.

  • D.B. Cooper

    I’ve been a little busy this evening… on The Race Card Project site. I stumbled across a “Lets admit our white privilege now” by Heather Barr, and I uploaded a bunch of pictures of white people who enjoyed their white privilege all the way to the end. Well, let’s see how long before “the truth” gets censored. I didn’t have to sign up or anything. If you can post on Amren, then you are welcome to immediately send your own regards.
    (L to R: Channon Christianson and Chris Newsom, Elin Krantz, and Eve Carson.)

    • Jim Barlow

      I won’t feel an inkling of sorrow when Heather gets knocked from her high horse by these heathens.

    • Erasmus

      Now, whenever anyone says Emmet Till or Trayvon Martin, I simply respond, “Channon Christian, Christopher Newsome, Fanny Gumbinger, Antonio Santiago, Autumn Paquale, Chris Lane, Jonathon Foster.”
      I also love to point out how blacks have killed more blacks in the last 2 years than the KKK did in its entire history.
      The truth will set you free. Why else do you think Barack Hussein Obama and Eric “My people” Holder work overtime to suppress it?

  • “My mother makes great cheese fondue.” Probably the whitest dish ever.

    I suppose I think about food a lot. It is a wonder I’m not fat.

    • AutomaticSlim

      “Probably the whitest dish ever.”

      Beef Wellington?

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    The University of Oregon (UO) put on a production about race in which one student repeatedly said “I don’t know why I’m white.”

    You were just lucky. The only misfortune is if you are too stupid or brainwashed to appreciate it.

    • IstvanIN

      Stupid is more like it. Being white means you had two white parents. Simple as that. But then that is why they pick the nitwits they pick to be in these productions, the ones who are too stupid to state the obvious.

  • IstvanIN

    When I read the blurb above it seamed to me that Eric Braman was annoyed at being made to feel guilty at being white. To clarify my reading I tried to watch the video. 15 seconds or so was enough to make me feel nauseous. Of course it is an NPR production, thus specifically made to put is down. What a bizarre world we live in.

    • Jack Burton

      I advocate for everyone who works for is associated with NPR to walk around diverse areas at night so they can help blacks work off some steam by knocking them out.

      When the knockout game targets White liberals and Jews, I find it very entertaining and therapeutic.

  • Spartacus

    “Mass shootings in universities are good .”

    • I don’t think that would be a very good idea. The gunners might hit someone who has a chance of developing into a real human being by mistake. I can’t imagine anything going wrong with hand grenades at faculty meetings, though in that case satchel charges would probably be better.

      • Spartacus

        Yes it is. It would deter others from going there.

        • I got my bachelor’s degree a very liberal university, UC Santa Cruz, and look how I turned out.

          • Spartacus

            Well… Every conflict has some collaterral damage, it’s unavoidable .

          • Berkeley Guy

            I wish I went to UC Santa Cruz. They offered me the regents scholorship, which would have been a full ride all told. And visiting the area it looked gorgeous. Kicking myself for choosing Berkeley, and not spending more units on hard science such as your major. Also, I echo your sentiment as I turned out ok too.

          • As a high school junior, I received some advice from an older family friend who had graduated from Harvard. He told me that if he could go back and do it all over again, he’d have gone someplace fun with a really pretty campus. I followed his advice; no regrets.

        • AutomaticSlim

          Not all degrees are useless.
          Just “communications” and the ones in ending in the word “studies”.
          Probably a few others too.

          • TeutonicKnight67

            Agreed. I have a BA in communications and I’ve worked blue-collar jobs and civil service ever since.

      • Andy

        Most of my professors were idiots. I had a few (mostly older) who were doing their part to keep Western culture from being killed off entirely.

  • So CAL Snowman

    Whites, working so YOU don’t starve.

  • So CAL Snowman

    I think NOFX said it best – “Don’t Call Me White”

    Don’t call me white, don’t call me white
    Don’t call me white, don’t call me white
    The connotations wearing my nerves thin
    Could it be semantics generating the mess we’re in?

    I understand that language breeds stereotype
    But what’s the explanation for the malice, for the spite?
    Don’t call me white, don’t call me white
    Don’t call me white, don’t call me white
    I wasn’t brought here, I was born
    Circumcised, categorized, allegiance sworn
    Does this mean I have to take such s**t
    For being fair skinned? No!

    I ain’t a part of no conspiracy, I’m just you’re average joe
    Don’t call me white, don’t call me white
    Don’t call me white, don’t call me white
    Represents everything I hate
    The soap shoved in the mouth to cleanse the mind
    The vast majority of sheep

    A buttoned collar, starched and bleached
    Constricting veins, the blood flow to the brain slows
    They’re so f***ing ordinary white
    Don’t call me white, don’t call me white
    Don’t call me white, don’t call me white
    Oh, we’re better off this way?
    Oh, say what you’re gonna say

    So go ahead and label me an asshole
    ’cause I can
    Accept responsibility for what I’ve done
    But not for who I am
    Don’t call me white, don’t call me white
    Don’t call me white, don’t call me white

  • Luca

    I can sum it up in just three words. “Disgusting Marxist propaganda.”

  • MartelsGhost

    “Anti-racist is just code for Anti-white.” That’s six right?

  • Truthseeker

    Good grief, these people are pathetic. I don’t need to watch the video, I can hear the pusillanimity just reading this loser’s words. This worm doesn’t represent our race, and he apparently doesn’t even want to, so there’s no reason to listen to anything he has to say about us.

    We white people just want to live our lives and be happy. We’re tired of bending over backward for other races only to have them spit in our faces and tell us we owe them more. We’re tired of being made to feel ashamed of our success just because certain other races lack the intelligence or industriousness to achieve it themselves. We’re tired of being told that just by being ourselves we’re somehow “oppressing” others.

    We’re done being cowed into submission by guilt-mongers. We’re done trying to work toward a multi-racial society while all the other races are looking out for their own people’s interests first and foremost. We’re done being lied to and sold a bill of goods by globalists who want to undermine our sense of identity. We are white and we are not ashamed!

    • Berkeley Guy

      I am acutely aware of the sentiments you voice. The root problem here seems to be ill-directed altruism. For some reason, and I would love to hear a debate with multiple people contributing as to the reasons why, we have lost assertiveness among many within our culture. Probably many factors summate to bring about such a change in a short span of time (decades).

      I am not ashamed of who I am, but am proud. And I can verify the vast majority of non-European people I have met feel the same way about their culture and place their culture first, as is natural. In group preference is has been established by various studies and is a widely accepted phenomenon. It seems natural that it is favored to evolve in any group of organisms–strength by numbers. What does not seem natural is when a group willingly gives up resources and space to other groups that are competing with it.

      It is true that some people would prefer that people of Europe and the Eurodiaspora lose their sense of identity. How it is that white individuals do just that and do not soon recover, is troubling. Our culture needs strong individuals to carry it forth from generation to generation. And many of us believe that western culture offers much that should be ‘carried forth.’ It has a rich history and sound societal traits which require a great deal of time and commitment to understand and contribute to. Children of the next generation deserve better than many of us were given in the flawed public school system of the US. I’m not sure if the smearing out of European culture is happening in European schools, but my children will not be subject to the lack of culture of which I was exposed.

      • Kenner

        It’s called ‘pathological altruism’.

  • OhWow

    Was passing through the channels on the radio this morning and stopped at a popular hip hop radio channel in New York called Hot 97. The hosts are all either black or hispanic and there’s one jew (how’s that for diversity?). They were discussing the Golden Globes last night and how 12 Years a Slave won awards and how they were happy about it. The black host then said “Every white person in America should have to watch that…and understand just what was done to us…every single one”.

    Of course that didn’t make the headlines in a liberal dominated media world. What if Bill O’Reilly or Rush Limbaugh on TV or radio said “Every black person should have to watch these knockout game videos and documentaries about black on white violence in America so blacks can see the destruction they caused (even though none exist)…every one!”? It would be top story news on CNN, MSNBC, etc. etc. A black panel would be on MSNBC with Toure slamming it saying “How racist of them to assume that all black people are like that! They think we owe them something!”.

    We are living in an era of black privilege. Unchecked, left festering. It’s illegal to be critical of blacks and legal as well as encouraged to be critical of whites.

    • Jim Barlow

      I’m so sick of hearing blacks bitch about slavery.

      Slavery was NOTHING compared to the holocaust. 6 million people were killed in the holocaust. Furthermore, the holocaust was >60 years more recent.

      Yet, the jews were still able to immigrate and reestablish themselves in society and become successful (and don’t have any of the problems that blacks are always so fond to attribute to slavery).

      I don’t mind any opinions on the jews, it just serves as an example that other races can meet adversity and rise above it – unlike blacks.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Suck a jew cock idiot.

        • Whitetrashgang

          are you trying to be funny?

      • Garrett Brown

        SIX MILLION JEWS! EXACTLY SIX MILLION JEWS! ALWAYS 6 MILLION!

        • Pro_Whitey

          Easy number to remember, hard to screw up, keeps you out of trouble and free to think what you want. As Hillary might put it, what difference does it make at this point? Still, I know what you’re getting at, and I think you’re right.

          • Garrett Brown

            Jews are infatuated with the number six. Look it up or watch Ram Z Paul’s video on it.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “Jews are infatuated with the number six.”

            Thanks for the info! Now I know why it is six and not ten or nine…

          • Garrett Brown

            The is some great information on their emphasis on six throughout history, especially the 20th century. There are a lot of videos on Youtube as well.

      • dodger

        They have been claiming six million for over a hundred years.

    • Jack Burton

      “What was done to us.”

      How about blacks enslaving other blacks, we should all see more movies about that.

      How about Whites who were enslaved, which most people are completely ignorant of.

  • Our White women are the best!

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      Eugenics can only be successful when we learn to love the looks of our people.

  • Andy

    “Embarrassed that I’m afraid of black boys.”

    ……..

    I’d be more embarrassed I couldn’t count.

    • Jim Barlow

      Better to be embarrassed than to be, tricked, raped and killed.

    • Spartacus

      ….

  • John K

    Brainwashing in public schools; that’s what caused this warped thinking. White male students are also brainwashed into thinking they’re homosexuals and white females are told to sleep with the black savage or other muds. The public schools are infested with the enemy within, and there needs to be a purge.

  • Eric’s gratuitous self-hatred is much too subtle.
    Perhaps he could (invitingly) spread the cheeks of his buttocks . . .

    What kind of a loser debases himself for NO reason whatsoever?
    Sickening.

  • Berkeley Guy

    Sorry, but I have to take issue with unqualified adulation of our race. Being white, and being proud of my European heritage, does not entail that I should utter any phrasing that can be reduced to an objective ‘we are better than others.’ With that said, I do prefer and love and enjoy more than any other cultures the western culture. So I think we are better subjectively, meaning I think European culture is superior–for me. I do not believe we should or need to be saying that we are better. Not trying to call out anyone here, as I believe most people on this forum feel similarly to the above sentiments.

    Let’s posit that we are better (even though I hold that we aren’t objectively). In that case, it is still a waste of energy to tout us as such. We can argue against the current trend of whites feeling guilty, and expressing that we think it is also a waste of energy to denigrate oneself, and especially without being appreciative of one’s culture and the people in the past who gave us this culture. But we miss the main theme of this article, and what we should be arguing against, if we fall back on platitudes, and other unqualified sentiments (which is really easy to do). Therefore, we miss an opportunity to argue against the root causes of such behavior and why we believe that this behavior is is not healthy for our society.

    I guess I am being quite pedantic here. But I believe its necessary to first explore and attempt to understand fully the sentiments of white guilt and how tactics and strategies are used to make whites feel guilty. It is an issue of altruism gone awry and wasted cognitive resources, as well as one of cognitive dissonance. This is a site that can attract a lot of people–through reporting truths and trends in western culture that are not healthy.

    • Brian

      I get what you’re saying, but now try condensing this down to six words, as was mentioned in the article, and you might end up with something roughly like what’s been expressed here.

      • Berkeley Guy

        I hear you, but why do what silly people do, such as the people mentioned in the article? Seems like they are using a rhetorical gimmick. I think we can do better than that, and I expect us to. “White guilt concept deserves deeper analysis” would be mine if I was forced to give one.

        • Brian

          I’m not sure you have gauged the tenor of the room. There are people here anticipating societal collapse in the next fifty years, with all that entails. We are up against displacement, degradation, and demographic replacement. We’re past the point of having finger sandwiches at a symposium.

          • Berkeley Guy

            I know the sentiment: there is no one looking out for us and our future except us. And I think you are right in that I have probably probably commented in a way that many here disagree with. I guess some people are too fed up with the trends.

            It is disgusting that these issues can not reach a broader audience through the media. We all know many of the reasons why. I guess I was hoping that someone who visits this website, and who feel as confused as I once did, would want to share some comments with me. Maybe I am too optimistic?

  • the more white guilt CorpGovMediaAcademia can instill into young, impressionable, white minds, the more imported 3rd world nonwhite cheap labor, consumer livestock they can cram into america.

    Mass immigration and its partner, affirmative action/racial integration, are the way that CorpGovMediaAcademia increase corporate revenues and profits. The more human livestock they can cram into america, the higher corporate revenues and profits are.

    White guilt is the lever through which CorpGovMediaAcademia manufactures consent for more more MOAR mass immigration.

    They have to get their globalist, pro-immigration, anti-white, pro-nonwhite propaganda into white minds at a young age before their worldview is set.

    How does this get fixed? It probably does not. There is nothing anyone can do. The dynamics of the situation seem set already.

    But to at least understand what is going on, always follow the money.

    Money drives everything in america.

  • The Final Solution

    So angry aren’t they? I won’t give my kids a dime if they study liberal arts.

  • Troy Swonger

    I am happy to be White.

    • TXCriollo

      Me too

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      Who’s not happy to be White is a cultural non-White.

  • TXCriollo

    This is the last ditch effort of the left they know they need to turn the 18 to 24 year olds if they cant its gonna be a tough ride

  • BillMillerTime

    Proud to be a cracker. Seriously.

  • PROUD TO BE WHITE

    In my youth, many decades past, I studied the physical science chemistry to the level of
    PhD. I was very bright and worked hard. Today enthusiastic young college men and women can still get a first-rate education in the physical sciences, engineering and mathematics. An intellectual debate involving a difference of opinion on say the origin of gravity or the structure of some novel organometallic compound is of little interest to the feminists, diversity nut-cases or the multiculturists. But if you go to college to get a liberal
    education you will be let down. You will soon discover that rather than getting a liberal education you will be educated and indoctrinated by liberals. I am a great advocate of home schooling, even at the college level, especially in history, sociology, geography, anthropology – politics and the other social sciences. It is interesting to note that during both my undergraduate and post-graduate studies I never bumped into an affirmative action black nuclear physicist or chemist. I do wonder why!!! From my talks with young science/engineering graduates these days, you still will not find an affirmative action black nuclear physicist or chemists. Some things never change – do they????

    • Berkeley Guy

      I can back up your claims with my anecdata as a senior now at Berkeley.

  • wildfirexx

    We are told…………………… Black is Beautiful!
    and…..Yellow is Bright!
    But what do they teach us about White self esteem ? Nothing!
    They seem to treat us like we are white trash, as If…White is like a Bird Turd in Flight! “SPLAT” it’s over!
    Anti-White forced Multiracialism, No Hope, No Survival, just government sponsored self inflicted White Genocide.

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      It is hilarious when they use the argument from tolerance: “It is alright to have a coloured skin” (which they also use to justify race mixing).

      • Jack Burton

        So I say that I am for diversity, the planet is majority non-White. I am trying to increase diversity by advocating for more White children. I don’t see enough blondes, we need a lot more blondes.

        • LovelyNordicHeidi

          Prof. Kevin Macdonald says:

          “The similar size and ethnic diversity of the two countries [i.e. Israel and Sweden] means that the only rationale for sending Africans to Sweden is that Sweden cares nothing about retaining a Swedish identity, whereas Israel cares deeply about remaining a Jewish state”

          That is the problem with European vs. Jewish diversity. We need to adopt the Jewish definition of diversity! It will be a blessing when people start saying that a 100% Nordic Northern Europe is diverse!

          • Jack Burton

            Unfortunately for Sweden and Swedes, they are not international bankers, mobsters and media moguls, nor are they considered a historical victim group.

            On the other hand you have to give it to Jews, sure they are evil in many ways, but they have earned it in a sense. Give the Devil his due.

      • wildfirexx

        I once had a half black/white co-worker who was sitting beside me… test my tolerance by saying to me ….you know, black is beautiful! My quick response was …And white is not ?(of which he was half white) He just smiled back at me, as if to think… he must be a racist!

        • Jack Burton

          He was trolling you, you should have trolled back. That’s how Negroes socialize, who can be the biggest troll.

  • dodger

    Too tolerant for our own good.

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      Tolerance makes us weak. We must never become tolerant again.

  • ncpride

    Brilliant. That pretty much sums it up.

  • LovelyNordicHeidi

    Anti-White professors make the anti-White movement “trendy” and “intellectual”

  • brior

    This is what is claimed to be a college education? And leave it to the gay to be acting all confused and butt hurt.

  • TeutonicKnight67

    White makes right. Black is shite.

    • DiversityIsHumanism

      White makes plight (slavery, war, stealing, etc) while black is baeutiful. Why do you think the media and hollywood give pretty black actors and actressess nobel and intellectual rows to play? Maybe your racism is making you idiotified.

      • wildfirexx

        It’s called affirmative action in Hollywood. Not that I mind if it’s based on merit and fair play, but you’ll never know because of PCorrectness and the new African American privledged class.

  • TeutonicKnight67

    I’m so glad that I have the “white privilege” to come to a “white nationalist” website such as this be lectured by Engelman about Asian superiority. It took exactly 1 second for me to find him quoting Jared Taylor and Phillipe Rushton a to justify his obsequious and simpering admiration for all things Oriental. This article has ZERO to do with Asians and yet he insists on inserting his slavish devotion to his chosen masters into the conversation.

    Once and for all: The world as it exists today is a creation of the WHITE RACE. All others either resist our world or adapt to it. Just because Asians are an intelligent race and have finally caught up to us does not mean we as a race are obligated to cede the field to them.

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      And the miscegenation with orientals is a sin against our ancestors. Would the Spartans have appreciated it if their offspring mixed with non-Whites?

      • Jack Burton

        We need more lovely Nordic Heidis.

        It is a privilege to be White.

        It is an honor to be Nordic.

        We need more Nordic Whites worldwide.

        • DiversityIsHumanism

          “We need more lovely Nordic Heidis.” Why not more latino lovers or more African queens? Why are you be so exclusive?

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            DiversityIsHumanism: “Why are you [being] so exclusive?”

            Keep it coming, Bro.

            Maybe I’ll enter a fraternity one day… Eh, I guess no women allowed there… Fraternities are apparently sexist! Go stalk fraternities then to defend my rights.

            If you really believe so much in equality, then try to convince me of it. Go ahead, try it. I give you a wonderful chance here to convert me, give it your best shot. Use all your magic words, phrases and arguments, and let’s see what happens!

          • DiversityIsHumanism

            Notice how you weren’t capable of replying directly to what I asked him about not including the women from other races. I got you right there and now you feel insulted because you weren’t able to defend your social constructivism segregation. HA! Go introduce some black genes into your family tree….

          • DiversityIsHumanism

            Diversity = Equality. My comments on here have been conveniently deleted. But I think you need a black husband or black wife so you can come to the realization that multiculturalism is the future. A jungle world where there is no infrastructure and abundant food and water, no borders, etc is the greatest future we can hope for. All th advanced technology can be kept in space where it belongs. This would be the ultimate merger of the synthetic and natural. But you would rather stay in the dark ages filled with hate.

          • LACounty

            You need Diversity to survive, son. You should come to this site and give thanks to Whites for the way you live today. Prove me wrong. Move to a place run by Negroes.

          • DiversityIsHumanism

            Nigeria is run by the beautiful black people and look how welll it is doing. Besides most black environments are poor because whites and asians are oppressing them with hate.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            LACounty, thanks for having my back. That guy’s comments were quite annoying.

          • LACounty

            You’re welcome. As you can see we get all kinds here, so I apologize and hope you understand for some of my initial comments to you. You are very intelligent and knowledgeable on the subject. Great to have you here. 🙂

          • LACounty

            DiversityIsHumanism is an example of the trash we have to deal with occasionally here.

  • Berkeley Guy

    Indeed, the tests, as you have pointed out before, currently give weight to these assertions. One thing I notice about East Asians and Ashkenazi Jews, at least the smart ones, is that they do not go around trumpeting their own success, but prefer if people think they are normal so that they are not targeted for whaterver reason. They are cautious with their success. Many whites here, and sometimes I fall into this trap, think it is better to tout us as ‘superior,’ but this accomplishes little if anything. I posted a longer comment about this below.

    At least for me, whenever I say Europeans are superior, I mean it in a qualified and subjective sense: their culture is currently superior for the ways in which I prefer to live.

    The Japanese rebuilt their cities after fire-bombing and nuclear catastrophe wrought by us, and for the most part do not complain about being oppressed because they know their own capabilities. They also have for the most part a homogenous ethnic makeup in their country so they are not being divided and conquered.

    • PesachPatriot

      King Solomon had a great quote a very long time ago…I think it was in the book of ecclesiastes(kohelet in hebrew) and it translates to “Let other men praise thee and not thy own mouth”

  • Katherine McChesney

    We can always count on you, Engleman, to condemn Europeans. I believe you have an anti-White sickness.

    • JohnEngelman

      I am not anti white. I am in favor of telling the truth. dukem1’s statement, “We invented everyting,” with “We” meaning “whites,” was never true. It is becoming less true.

      Race realism is not the same as white supremacy.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Whites are the superior race. We don’t do as S. E. Asians by stealing white inventions and making them their own. I don’t believe they’re IQ is greater than ours. I believe that’s faulty science.

        • Berkeley Guy

          I understand your sentiments, but once again I take issue with unqualified assertions of ‘white’ superiority. These assertions do nothing for our culture, and are meaningless. Whenver I assert such a thing these days, I am careful to qualify it such as ‘I believe the way I want to live is aligned with the current way people in European societies; therefore, western culture is superior to the life enjoy and want to have relative to others.’ There is no feature of the universe that lets us be better than others. I have great cultural pride, but lately I just don’t see the point in trumpeting our successes. Wouldn’t it be better to spend those energies on something else?

          As for intellectual property theft, I have read about this happening especially in China. In the book Poorly Made in China, the notes one instance where a Chinese manufacturing company received a formula for a soap product and then told the person who gave them the formula that now the formula was theirs–just because they were packaging it in their own way! Intellectual property rights on a copy. Now, there are cases like this, are you willing to do the research and present some juicy facts for us to consume so that people who visit this site can be more educated?

          • JohnEngelman

            Intellectual theft is a problem. Nevertheless, it does not explain higher test scores for Orientals, or the fact that the Orient has become more inventive than the West.

            It has always been the case that inventions that begun in one area spread to other areas. The Chinese invented paper. The East Indians invented the base ten numeric system. The Arabs invented algebra. American Indians domesticated food crops that are consumed everywhere in the world. Even the Bantu have given us watermelons.

            The alphabet may have been invented by an Egyptian scribe. From there it was adopted by the Phoenicians. Many cultures borrowed it from the Phoenicians, and adopted it to their languages.

          • benvad

            John that’s not actually true. I live in Japan and the whole country is cringing from the lack of ingenuity here. A good friend of mine works for OMRON and their last claim to fame was creating a ticket gate machine for the train systems.

            He also told me that his CEO would go to the USA to see and investigate, what was being created in the US.

            No ingenuity, just a desire to imitate, that’s East Asia, for better or for worse.

          • Berkeley Guy

            Interesting anecdata. It’s good to hear from someone on the ground in East Asia. So is it the case that a significant portion of patents filed in Japan are more innovative of previous inventions? I always thought they were inventing some things, but whenever someone says that they invent more than the west, then I am doubtful.

          • benvad

            It’s more of a case of creating a blue rose, what they7re doing is adding panache to a product that already exists. They’re just reengineering an existing product, not inventing the light bulb or the combustion engine. Buddhist societies don’t strive or angst for more, they’re conditioned to strive for no desire and to be content.

            Hell! it relieves stress in my opinion, and I do live rather well over here. So what!

        • JohnEngelman

          IQ tests were invented in France and refined in the United States. Nevertheless, Orientals in the Orient and in the West tend to out perform white Gentiles.

          IQ tests and other mental aptitude tests that give comparable scores have been used for over a hundred years. Use is spreading to private industry in hiring decisions. This is because the tests have proven their effectiveness in predicting intellectual outcomes.

          • Edruezzi

            The test do measure something. No doubt about that.

        • Edruezzi

          Logically speaking, and using your own argument, if the superior Asian IQ is faulty science, why can’t the inferior black IQ be faulty science?

      • LACounty

        “I am not anti white.”
        You are pro Asian. You favor asians above whites.

        • JohnEngelman

          Orientals are more likely to have qualities I admire than white Gentiles. Nevertheless, most of the people I have known have been white Gentiles, so most of my friends have been white Gentiles also.

          • Terra Magnum Imperium

            Qualities, like the fact that 24 million of these so called higher East Asians let an insane dictator run there lives, One critical weakness of East Asians is Blind Conformity akin to lemmings marching towards the sea.

          • JohnEngelman

            What about the larger number of Germans who let an insane dictator run their lives, and pull them into a total war they had no chance of winning?

      • John R

        John E., Asians have a slightly higher IQ than Whites ON THE AVERAGE. But, the standard deviation of Whites is greater. Asians have very few poor students, but the very brainiest people in the world have always been White, and that is why Whites have invented most of the truly great technologies. Remember Steve Jobs? Bill Gates?

        • Berkeley Guy

          If you want to pick names for which whites are intelligent (aside from the point you are trying to make), then Steve Jobs (an Arab) and Bill Gates are not your choices. Steve Jobs was adopted by whites, yes, but Wozniak and others did most of the actual engineering at Apple. Bill Gates is intelligent, but not a solid choice. These are populars leaders to be sure. But if you want intelligent Americans, then look to Charles Saunders Pierce, Alonzo Church and others. If you want white in general, no better examples exist in my opinion than Darwin and Newton.

          • Edruezzi

            Alonzo Church was a genius. Unfortunately most people here cannot begin to understand his work.

          • Anna Tree

            I agree with you but I would like to precise that Steve Jobs’s biological mom was (Catholic) Swiss-American and his biological (muslim) dad Syrian. Syrians were formerly Christian Assyrians, i.e. Levantine whites, but indeed later many/most have been arabized and islamized through jihad conquest.
            His adopted parents are Armenian Americans.

          • Berkeley Guy

            Thank you for taking the time to further clarify. I’m not sure who would or would not say Jobs was white.

    • Edruezzi

      You can always count on John Boy to hype Asians. You can always count on Superman Edruezzi to declare that race has no scientific validity. If I rounded up the occupants of a subway car in Manhattan and the occupants of a train cabin in the London Tube either of them would be as valid as a geographical race as any of the popular existing definitions.
      Race is as valid as voodoo or astrology. The fact that Haitians still practice the former and magazines still print pages of the latter doesn’t mean they’re “real’. The existing patterns we see in race characteristics in America or the world are the products of geopolitics, imperialism and the “peculiar institution.”
      Love, from Edruezzi.

  • Berkeley Guy

    What I would really like to see is tests on EQ amongst races. I’ve noticed East Asians are more likely to not allow others to make them feel guilty or take advantage of altruistic traits. They seem to me to be far more careful in guarding their emotions. I’m not sure if this is always a good thing, but it would explain some of the traits you quoted, as well as explain why some Europeans are so easy to take advantage of relative to East Asians.

    I believe that many Europeans on this site need better emotional management. I feel it in myself, and it takes lots of practice and conscoius thought to change emotional habits such as responding to stressors.

    That being said, I have to disagree with Taylor (even though he is not quoted in this comment) on whether East Asians have more traits that allow for building better societies. I just don’t see those traits cashing out historically in better societies. What happened? Whatever it was, some traits were lacking in the people relative to Europeans if we are talking quality of life for the majority of a county’s population. Maybe in the future they will have better societies. The Japanese do well, since they are more open to Western philosophy and trends, along with many other reasons.

    My Chinese ex-girlfriend spent her entire childhood studying math and physics books, preparing for math competitions and so on. Many other areas of her life suffered and continue to suffer to this day, but she at least did not waste time watching cartoons or consuming junk journalism. She may be depressed, but at least she wasn’t out drinking and smoking with her friends, and possibly being date-raped. Her parents at least kept her safe and focused, even if the way they did was not balanced for optimum development.

    I think Europeans can take what Taylor and Rushton are saying as a challenge to get better, and to be more aware of current trends. To be successful in competing with other cultures, and yes those other cultures would prefer to see us fall if it meant the rise of their dominance, we need to face facts about our media and why these things are not being discussed publicly. We shouldn’t have to comment only on Amren and other sites. I look forward to a day when we can discuss these issues in the open without feeling the slightest bit of awkwardness.

    • JohnEngelman

      Civilizations rise and fall. Western civilization declined sharply with the fall of the Western Roman Empire. During the middle ages Europe was clearly behind China and the Arab world. Even the Byzantine Empire was behind, because it looked back to the achievements of ancient Greece and Rome.

      Currently western civilization is in decline while China and countries that learned civilization from China are rising. Because the average Oriental is superior to the average white Gentile in innate qualities that make for a successful country, I expect Chinese hegemony to begin by the end of this century, and to last until the races merge into one racial hybrid.

      Then there will be one country on this planet and one race with an average IQ that is even higher than the average for Ashkenazi Jews.

      This may take over a thousand years of human evolution. It cannot be achieved in a generation or two by radical political reform. That is why the Communist experiment failed.

      • Berkeley Guy

        Wow, those are some intersting assertions and predictions. But some people currently believe that AI will surpass us in all aspects of intelligence, and that unless we develop cybernetics to merge with such sophisticated programs, we would become obsolete in such a future. I have heard these assertions and the ones you listed before. I have to admit, even after a thousand years, it may be that many people still want to retain their unique cultures and behave on a daily basis in just that way.

        How could all the people of the Earth become one race? Care to elaborate? Eugenics? Bioengineering?

        • JohnEngelman

          Miscegenation. In the United States the practice is increasing. Approval is 87 percent, up from 4 percent in 1957.

      • Texan1st

        At what point are the Chinese going to mesh with Africans in great enough numbers that they are merged into this supposed “one racial hybrid”? Other races may merge into one but Asians of all variations will, by and large, remain racially homogeneous.

  • Jack Burton

    Here’s a better question, if you could choose what race you want to be, wouldn’t you choose to be White? Wouldn’t you choose to be Northern European? You’re god damned right you would, so would the majority of the world population.

    All these Whites that have this pathological need to question themselves and hate themselves and other Whites, just kill yourself. If you hate being White, just die, do everyone a favor.

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      H. Becker (a German White advocate) argued that Nordics might win. We just need to go through a lot of bad stuff, and we will naturally become pro-White/Nordic. H. Becker’s opinions are almost the same as mine: Even if revolution fails, we can start from scratch, assemble all the Nordic survivors, make new communities, never be tolerant to hostile peoples again and slowly build a Nordic planet.

      • DiversityIsHumanism

        You sound like you need a good dose of a college education in the liberal arts. You need an enriching multicultural experience. Go socialize with moral blacks, latinos, or arabs instead of blurting off propaganda. I bet you don’t even know that blacks built pyrimids 4,000 years before the arabs did? Your ignorance of history is why you advocate racial separation,

        • wildfirexx

          Keep dreaming Diversity! Did Black Africans trip over their past, is that why they were living in the Jungle when the Great White hunter arrived on the scene, so they could go back to the Future. lol

        • LovelyNordicHeidi

          Are you serious?!

          DiversityIsHumanism: “you advocate racial separation”

          Ahhh, you summarise what I say. You’re so cute!

          DiversityIsHumanism: “You sound like you need a good dose of a college education in the liberal arts.”

          My liberal education – sorry, I meant indoctrination – made me who I am today! I am really glad that you stimulate young people like me to be exposed to more indoctrination, so that they will end up like me. Really, I enjoy what you say. I would never have been so convinced if folks like you did not tell me the beauty of equality. I do not know what my life would have looked like if it weren’t for people like you! It thrills me that there are people like you who risk their lives to save people like me and stir us in the right direction! But unfortunately, I have gone down the road of the big bad wolf, so I am completely lost and cannot find my way back to the lands where the unicorns of equality live. Oh, and it is so ignorant that I am posting comments here asking for racial segregation! I must be out of my mind… or did you project upon me what you ARE?

          “You need an enriching multicultural experience.”

          I have had lots of enriching experiences. I do not know where to begin! You know, people like you have provided me with one of the many wonders of multicult society so that I cannot walk alone safely at night in the streets of the once 100% White neighbourhoods. But yes, homogeneity is racism! We need more diversity!

          I just love the naughty little cults that are changing the demographics of our nations so rapidly. Uh oh, I should have called ’em minorities. It just enriches my people that those minorities grow and grow and grow, so that one day there will be no racist White people left! What additions! What wonders! What minorities!

          But really, how are my children and grandchildren supposed to benefit from that enrichment? Sorry, I shouldn’t have asked that politically incorrect question! Such questions would only give you the impression that I have no faith in the unquestionable authority of multiculturalism!

          And yet, I know more wonders. I am really happy with the additions of multicultural food and music, because the racist White civilisation could never have come up with such wonderful taste of exotic food and music! We have been so stubborn to deny all those luxuries from our society that I cry myself to sleep every night, with lots of White guilt and privilege.

          I’ll also teach my children to feel bad about being White because you told me so! I feel so bad that we missed the exotic food and music for so many centuries… My ancestors must have been so mean to want to separate themselves from non-Whites, my ancestors must have been so mean to develop a 100% White civilisation and my ancestors must have been so mean to exclude all non-Whites from our undeserved privilege!

          I feel so bad I cannot emphasise it enough. Our kind is guilty of excluding such moral creatures from our society! And then, when those poor creatures came here, they were oppressed by racist White people! And so they needed to be labelled MINORITIES and needed to be put on WELFARE and needed to be protected by LAW.

          The unique nature of those non-Whites must be why Americans have been willing to pay for multicult society ever since the multicult experiment began! You know what multiculturalism costs? No, I bet you don’t, because you only care about the supposed moral superiority of human equality. “The cost of [multicult] society roughtly equals the entire economic output of White women in the workforce.” (Donovan, Christopher. Freedom of Association and the Right of Exclusion, Part 1.)

          Multiculturalism has not only made the economic contribution of our women to our society a big laugh, but also multiculturalism will eventually become unsustainable. Your utopia is falling apart. Since liberalism has an impractical and certainly unrealistic basis, it will only lead to a counterreaction. Keep on educating people, my liberal friend. You are only making more people aware of the hypocrisy of your world view.

          I am sure that you would like to see people like me on pills and being dragged into nut-houses, because we are being too difficult for you and it is too hard to convince us of your utopia. You can say that we are “crazy”, and try to demonise us when you do not know how to reason with us. Your reasoning is not superior to that of a fourth-grader. A fourth-grader, who has experienced multicult society, already knows subconsciously that he should not trust non-Whites for the sake of his own survival.

          Surely you do not care about intelligence, natural selection and heritability. Those subjects are all taboo when we speak about different groups of humans, because you say that all humans are equal! Those are your standards, not mine. I am looking for truth and proof, and you are looking for dogma and stagnation.

          Eugenics and segregation are certainly not popular among people like you. How unfortunate! You might think that I am only mean, and that you are being nice. The worst crimes have been committed in the name of altruism, and in what name are you claiming all these things? I guess – since you are talking so nicely about our fellow human beings – that you are telling me all your stuff in the name of altruism.

          You only want to eradicate the concept of race from your vocabulary, but you do not give me scientific proof for doing so. Basically you only say: “everyone must believe in the moral superiority of human equality because altruism is always good.” The fallacy: you try to convince me that altruism is an end in itself, but altruism is a means to an end, and subconsciously you also perceive altruism as a means, because you use altruism to justify the faith in egalitarianism.

          There is no proof for the moral superiority of human equality, and I wish you good luck with trying to convince me that there is proof for the moral superiority of human equality. Claiming that there is proof is not the same as providing me with proof. Since you only use altruism to justify your obscene faith in egalitarianism to me, I know that you only to try seem nice in order to convince me of really mean things. What you want me to believe is really mean to my people. People like you make it necessary for people like me to be really mean, otherwise we would not survive.

          If you are a White who is trying to lead me back to the righteous path of egalitarianism, you are a cultural non-White, and if you are a non-White who is just trying to render Whites defenceless in the on-going racial conflict, you are just a mean anti-White. Understand one thing: you have to try harder to convince me, and by all means do, because it is just amusing to see you defend a defenceless argument.

          I think it all comes down to one conclusion: You’re not my type, so you’ll have to look for another date. Don’t try to flirt with women like me anymore.

          BUT if you weren’t serious at all, my sincere apologies.

          • DiversityIsHumanism

            You wrote so much that I can’t keep it all straight in my heads to ccome up with a appropriate reply. You said the economic output of white women equals the cost to run a multicultural society? Well then I guess our society is pretty cheap since women don’t make much because they are more concerned about whats going on in the young and the restless than their own jobs. From what I can understand from that book you wrote as a reply is that in summary a multicultral people is bad because of high crime, cost, and competition between groups? Whites commit crime too so should we export all whites back to Europe because they can’t fit in? Why focus in on the negativeside of one race (social construct) and do the exact opposite of another (making whites look perfect and not siting their own faults)? Can you get anymore bias? Do you want to know my dream of a perfect society? Everyone of all races live together, the world is one big country. There are no borders, no buildings, no infrastructure whatsoever. There is only man (and of course woman to serve man) and nature. We would have advanced terraforming (making the planet one huge jungle)and food growing biotechnology that would enable the production of an inexhaustable food supply. Disease is also wiped out, work is no longer necessary, everyone is free to do what they are most interested in. Imagine everyone living in the jungle with no needs, no worries, itss the ultimate civilization,.. the complete merger of science and nature, and the ultimate peace treaty between different social constructs of people. Advanced technology like space materials, various forms of propulsion, electronics, etc can still exist but they would be kept in orbit so has not to pollute the planet. That is the future that you reject so that you can keep living in the 1800s. I think you should marry a black man or black woman becuase either one would help you to want such a great society like the one I just described.

          • DiversityIsHumanism

            Be quite woman and stop speaking!

      • Jack Burton

        In honorable combat and competition there is no doubt we would win, we were winning.

        However our enemies are very conniving and resourceful. We obviously are susceptible to psychological warfare which has neutralized us.

  • Jack Burton

    Yes, and to them I say kill yourself. Like this Ignatiev guy, Russian Jew, obvious by the phenotype. He advocates the destruction of the White race. He likes to play games and claims he just means that figuratively.

    I say to people like that, start with yourself, be a role model, kill yourself and show us the way. After you, good sir. Then I laugh my ass off after they’re gone.

  • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

    Good video, thanks. As the change increases, whites will feel the pressure in many ways and life will become increasingly difficult for us. But world chaos will also increase. What they will inherit will not be so desirable either. I think that the global environmental problems that will be greatly increased by then, will be the last thing that non-whites use to justify a “final solution” for whites. Then, the fun for them begins. In the end, the bugs will inherit the earth.

  • LACounty

    Whites have obviously been more creative than any other race.

    • JohnEngelman

      Up to now, yes. Nevertheless, that seems to be changing.

  • NeanderthalDNA

    I dispute nothing but have to point out…

    1. 5-6 points is not much, not too much more than a questionable statistical hiccup.

    2. Although loath to go the “multiple intelligences” cop out route, there may very well be some differences that make comparison tantamount to the old apples and oranges thing.

    3. 5-6 points of lower average IQ could also result in more risk taking behavior, which if repeated over the centuries by many, could also result in big pay-offs. A 100 average IQ, on the macro scale and over time, may result in more advances and progress than an average IQ of 105/106 that optimizes risks “better”.

    4. I’ll have to dig through the body of research, but Whites are the most “diverse” of the big three, racially. Who, exactly, is included in the set known as “White” and what subsets of this set may exist which exceeds or falls short of this average? Are Egyptians included as “White”, for example?

    I like you, John. You are a very bright person whose IQ substantially exceeds 100 in my opinion, and I admire your dedication to “keeping it real” in regard to the embarrassing potential of too much “rah rah team” sentimentality, but…

    In case you haven’t noticed, our Folk are having an immense crisis of confidence that threatens our existence in a very palpable way. All I would suggest is a little more tact and awareness of the state of our psyches at this point as well as our insecurities when you extol the virtues of the women of another race, no matter how admirable or noble or pretty they may be on a WHITE race realist website.

    Realism fine. Impishly sowing dissent for the sake of tweeking your fellow phalanx members is not wise under the circumstances nor welcome. Like I said, I like you but understand why many here don’t.

    • JohnEngelman

      Thank you for your nice words.

      I understand why a lot of posters here do not like me too. They do not like the facts I post, even when I get those facts from this website.

      Negroes have more genetic diversity than the other races. This is because everyone who is not a Negro is descended from one hundred to several hundred people who left Africa about 60,000 years ago. At that time there may have been over 10,000 thousand people living in Africa. Because more people stayed in Africa, those who stayed had more genetic variations.

      The “immense crisis of confidence” that many whites have is in my opinion largely caused by an economy that no longer provides most :Americans with a rising standard of living every year. Meanwhile the richest ten percent get richer every year.

      Most of the richest ten percent are white Gentiles. Most Jews and Orientals are not rich. Many are poor. An effort to address the growing income gap that assumes that white Gentiles matter and that Jews and non whites do not is likely to be exploited by rich white Gentiles in ways that preserve their wealth, while doing little for working class white Gentiles.

      In saying that, I acknowledge that a high rate of immigration is a major reason for the growing income gap.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Point by point, not all in disagreement…

        1. “Negroes have more genetic diversity than the other races.”

        Apparently this genetic diversity does not extend to IQ very much. Only where the Bantu has been gifted with enough genetics of other races is his IQ significantly higher than his more genetically pristine fellows. I’ll delve into it again, but the existence of small isolated populations in the sub-Saharan pool that are radically different from others…may indicate no more genetic diversity than would be expected from a people who may include in their genetic make-up as much as 30% or more unidentified archaic human lineages from possibly multiple sources. None of which are Neanderthal unless we’re talking miscegenation with non Africans. We’ve just figured out that DNA is about twice as rich and complex as we thought – there is more to learn and perhaps we will find some sequencable archaic genetic material yet that shows the sub-Saharan African is actually far less “pure” homo sapien than conventional doctrine purports. Far less than Whites and Orientals.

        2. “The “immense crisis of confidence” that many whites have is in my opinion largely caused by an economy that no longer provides most :Americans with a rising standard of living every year. Meanwhile the richest ten percent get richer every year.”

        As a former liberal (not necessarily to be taken to mean “current conservative”) I too am attracted to this explanation, and do not consider it entirely invalid. Not at all. However…

        Again, RACE is the buzillion pound murderous, rabid, gorilla stinking up everything. Nobody can look at it. Nobody can even acknowledge it’s stench and destructiveness. All we ever do is point at each other and spend our clever brainpower and money in desperate hope that “somebody” can explain it all away in such a manner as the buzillion pound gorilla is NEVER mentioned and thereby EVER fed with our blood. When you chip away at the foundation of any structure long and hard enough it will eventually collapse. I have come to the conclusion that nothing “explains all the problems” better than the only thing we cannot talk about. Outside of here, of course.

        3. “Most of the richest ten percent are white Gentiles. Most Jews and Orientals are not rich. Many are poor. An effort to address the growing income gap that assumes that white Gentiles matter and that Jews and non whites do not is likely to be exploited by rich white Gentiles in ways that preserve their wealth, while doing little for working class white Gentiles.”

        The first to go on trial and to be weighed for proper drop height should, in my opinion, be White Gentiles of the type you describe who turned their backs on or actively worked for the destruction of their less well heeled fellows. Throw in 90% of university humanities departments and a big chunk of the social sciences and we have the start of a new beginning…

        Then the darkie question can be properly addressed.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          “Throw in 90% of university humanities departments and a big chunk of the social sciences and we have the start of a new beginning…”

          Oh yeah, and juggalos of course.

        • Berkeley Guy

          As I learned in anthropology, natural selection selects against a wide bell curve, shearing off the ends each generation, given that the environment has remained stable. Chimps have more genetic variation than any group of Homo Sapiens.

      • LACounty

        It has very little to do with the facts you post. (members reactions to you). Many Whites have posted identical facts. It’s the simple fact that you favor asians over whites, overall. Priorities for most members here are not to hear from others who favor their race over whites. If I went to a similar asian, brown, or black site and they knew I favored whites over others, why would they accept me?
        Along with that I have a few quotes of yours from another site where you’ve said a few things that weren’t too kindly to whites. Based on what I’ve said here, why would you expect much approval? You should feel fortunate that you’re tolerated here as much as you are.

        • JohnEngelman

          I have a few quotes of yours from another site where you’ve said a few things that weren’t too kindly to whites.

          – LACounty

          I make no secret of my admiration for Jews and Orientals and of my hostility toward white Gentiles who hate them. Otherwise, whites are fine as far as I am concerned.

  • Peter Connor

    For example?

  • NeanderthalDNA

    Who knows, but having taught I can’t express the depressing effect Black culture and our foolish conflation of it and them with us (or the Orientals for that matter) has on EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN OUR DISINTIGRATING SOCIETY.

    When the standards and expectations are lowered to the level of the Negro, even the highly miscegenated and far more obnoxious American negro, it all starts swirling down the toilet and into the sewers.

    Bright White kids with potential, some of whom need a push and all of whom need higher expectations in order to reach full potential, are corrupted and ruined DAILY and in LARGE NUMBERS. Constant humiliation, scapegoating and denigration take their toll on our Folk and debase us yearly. How CAN a population survive a drop in IQ of 5 – 10 points without falling behind?

    The orientals are bright and hopefully will keep things going while we awaken and begin our healing and re-integration process, as we rediscover our self respect and graduate to well earned, non hubritic pride.

    But considering the genetic dragdown of miscegenation, added to the cultural dragdown of white demonization…

    I’m amazed we are not falling behind faster than we are. Of course the brevity of this life distorts my perception and in the big picture this is, of course, a rapidly developing and very recent phenomenon.

    • JohnEngelman

      It has been a long time since I have been in school, so I do not quite know how things are there. When I was a child and teenager I was taught both in school, and in the general culture, that the United States was the strongest country in the world, the richest, the most moral, the most democratic, and so on.

      The War in Vietnam changed my belief that the United States is morally preeminent.

      Until the Second World War it was generally acknowledged that the Negro race was inferior to the white race, despite individual exceptions. After the revelations of Nazi crimes few people in the United States wanted to believe that racial differences mattered, or even that they existed.

      The civil rights movement was inspired by the belief that when blacks were no longer discriminated against they would behave and perform as well as whites.

      Two generations later I doubt that many people genuinely believe that any more. As the Nazi movement fades from living memory, and as more is learned about human genetics, I think more Americans will become receptive to the truths of race realism.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        ” As the Nazi movement fades from living memory, and as more is learned about human genetics, I think more Americans will become receptive to the truths of race realism.”

        I cannot agree more. I think much of our self denigration results from that. Although folks like young Sparty sometimes give me pause, being no Jew hater myself…they also give me hope in that some Whites, regardless of politics, are still fierce and willing to fight.

        I hope to see the race war in my lifetime, and if I have to wheel myself out into the streets popping old folk pills (chased down with some strong bourbon) and shooting at the darkest blur I can see, I’ll be there on the barricades. It’s closer than we think, though.

        I’ll wheel you out and load your shotgun for you if I’m able, big brother, lol…

        You can even have an Asian chick for all I care if you want…

        • JohnEngelman

          Thanks for the “Asian chick.”

          Nevertheless, I think a race war would be a nightmare, and unnecessary. All we need to do is to restrict the immigration of third world peoples, and interpret the civil rights legislation passed during the 1970’s in ways that do not allow affirmative action and forced school busing.

          • BillMillerTime

            Non-whites are outbreeding whites in America. This means that even if ALL non-white immigration stopped tomorrow, we would still end up becoming a minority in our own country. But yes, I see your point. Becoming a country without a white majority would not worry me so much if we lived in a society where property rights were respected, and the absolute freedom of association among private parties was protected by law.

          • Rachel May

            It won’t happen. These concepts are products of white genetics. There was an old saying in the 70’s I remember. If you think you have trouble with minorities now, wait until they are the majority.

      • Berkeley Guy

        Your last paragraph–indeed.

        Your first paragraph. Well, you would not believe the schooling I had when I was bused in the early 90’s across Boston to a majority black school and the daily abuse not only I and the faculty absorbed, but what they also absorbed from each other. White-grievance mongering? Nay, lessons learned.

        • JohnEngelman

          I was fortunate in that the black populations in the schools I attended was under five percent of the student body. That gave me an unrealistically benign opinion of blacks.

          When blacks are in the minority most try to behave. When they are in the majority most behave the way they want to behave. Many do not want to behave well.

      • jeffaral

        I’m not fading, I’m still here!

        • JohnEngelman

          Good for you.

      • Edruezzi

        Unfortunately, John, the more we learn about human genetics the more illusory race appears. We already know. People, we have the human genome printed out on paper. THE CONCEPT OF RACE DERIVES FROM FOLK THINKING BASED ON SKIN COLOR.

        • JohnEngelman

          The different races differ as much and in the same way as different sub species of various animal species. They have evolved in response to different population pressures. Consequently, they differ in average ability levels and behavior.

          The more we learn about genetics the more obvious this is. DNA testing cannot only determine a person’s race, it can determine countries where the person’s ancestors lived.

          • Edruezzi

            Your first sentence is categorically wrong. Google it. The second one is wrong too. NOTHING evolves due to different population pressures.
            As for your third sentence, there is no point arguing with a bigot, which your posts make clear you are. Your infatuation with Asians and Jews does not change that.
            DNA testing can determine national origins. That is an artifact of clustering and nothing more. DNA testing also indicates that different traits vary along axes that make race invalid as a taxonomic category. DNA tests can determine that a person came from Germany or England, or even from Saxony or Brandenburg within Germany. We do not classify Germans and English as different races or say Saxony and Brandenburg are different races. The difference between Africans and Europeans is of the same kind as those differences.

          • JohnEngelman

            You do not prove that by asserting it. The non cosmetic differences between blacks and whites can be explained by the different number of generations each race has from a paleolithic existence.

            The life of a paleolithic hunter was exciting, varied, and violent, like the life of a black ghetto criminal. Qualities that gave survival value in a paleolithic environment earn one felony convictions in a civilized country.

          • Edruezzi

            There is no evidence that the smart men in Europe and the other places that became agrarian had more children or made a greater contribution to the gene pool. Genghis Khan has millions of descendants today. Was his success due to his brains or his brutality?
            As for the generations since agriculture, Europe was the last part of Eurasia to adopt agriculture.
            We don’t need a time machine to understand the lives of paleolithic people. We have modern day stone age people with us. Their lives are dull.

    • Rachel May

      I agree, nothing is as it seems. We can’t compare our young people now, saddled with white guilt, low expectations, and an educational system built to artificially raise blacks to our level, with those of yesteryear. Our nation is a cesspool and the light has dimmed for white America. We must strive for a rebirth of our blood and spirit.

    • Edruezzi

      It’s good to encounter a teacher on Amren. So maybe you could explain this. Why is it that after Brown vs Board of Education and then bussing some blacks by the 90s were actually calling for all-black academies?

  • Kronolog

    Oh why, oh why must I suffer, even though it was Eve who plucked the apple?

  • Screamin_Ruffed_Grouse

    Six words?

    HOLY F*** I LOVE BEING WHITE!

  • dukem1

    You’re out of your element Johnny.

    • JohnEngelman

      Your comment is worth voting down. Otherwise, It does not merit more of a response than this one.

  • DiversityIsHumanism

    I’m white and that’s why I’m glad affirmative action prgrams exist for the ensuring of equality! If the U.S. and Europe were only white that would be boring. Think about it…no rap, no good jokes, go energetic socialization. Just a bunch of people sitting around a desk drinking tea and talking about math and physics equations. No, true equality is the only way and that requires diversity and tons and tons of it. Btw, Americ is becoming more and more diverse by the sec,…literally! 🙂

  • White people are my own people.

  • I just don’t want to mix.

  • Rachel May

    Please don’t group all races together with “Americans.” By looking at each country’s current inventions without sorting the races behind invention is foolish.

  • Rachel May

    Even if true, who cares. The white race, when left alone and not infiltrated by racial hybrids, have a beautiful mind and spirit. I love my white family and want to see them safe, happy, and still here in 50 years – even if they have a fight on their hands to survive. Who cares what Asians do or don’t do. They aren’t my people.

    • JohnEngelman

      The future belongs to people of superior intelligence. Even if non whites and Jews were deported, white Gentiles with double digit IQ’s would have limited prospects in an economy that is going to become increasingly complex and competitive.

      Deporting Orientals and Jews would harm the United States in international competition. We need their industrial strength IQ power.

  • Unless I am terribly mistaken, the self-apologetic “person” under discussion is white because his white father had a lot of horizontal fun with his white mother. Since my wife and I actually have a daughter, I understand quite well how this sort of thing works. If self-assembly instructions won’t get me moderated, this is a case of “Insert tab “A” into slot “B”. Do not use glue.

    Perhaps he’s frustrated and angry. I’m mildly irritated that I can’t sleep as long or as well as I did as his age. On the other hand, I get a lot more work done on 18 waking hours than I ever did on 15.

  • DiversityIsHumanism

    What?! If Egqytians arent black or arabic then what the hell are they? Anyways back to reality, why dont you go hang out with the Italian mob, or russian gangs? See how easy it is just to bring up the criminals of a race and then idiotically assign that behavior to the whole race and then sit on your moral high horse and decalre they are all evil? Knock that off hater.

  • DiversityIsHumanism

    What!? If eqgytians are not black or arabic then what the hell are they? My first comment to you has been deleted because people here are afraid of fair debate (which means they know their arguments cant stand on their own.) Anyways back to reality, how about you go and hang out with the mofia or russian gangs? See how easy it is to focus on the criminal elements alone and then assign that behavior to the whole race out of mental retardation? Knock that crap off hater!

  • dukem1

    Thanx for the shout-out Mr. The West is the Best.
    What you stated is where I was coming from.
    I was going for the six word thing like in the article, with the extra added bonus of a little “Big Lebowski” stuff thrown in along the way in other comments.
    Welp, I’m off duty now, so I think I’ll relax with a Caucasian.
    (That’s a white russian, for those of you out of the know.)

  • Edruezzi

    Is it not possible that what the superior testing of Asians is actually measuring is test taking ability? Asians in America and Asia itself grow up with the parents drilling it into them that the only way they can make it in a world the white man still dominates is through academics. I mean, they know they don’t have the NBA and they can’t rap. So, when an Asian shows up for a test, the very consciousness that they are sitting for a test could affect their performance.
    Compare that with modern white parenting, where freedom is uppermost and a parent feels guilt for telling a kid to clean their room.

  • Edruezzi

    Human beings are so pathetic that they’ll clutch at any difference to hate each other. The Protestants and the Catholics in N. Ireland are physically indistinguishable. The Bosnians, Serbs and Croats are physically indistinguishable. I bet they’re busy plotting their own voodooistic Bell Curves (registered TM) in N. Ireland and the former Yugoslavia. People will find something. If it’s not skin color or nose shape then it’ll be religion or eating pork or not.
    On a related front, you white dudes out there, don’t tell me you don’t whack off to Nicki Minaj now and then. And to the Valkyries of Amren, the White She Devils, you can’t tell me you haven’t hit the vibrator now and then with visions of Denzel dancing in your heads.

    • LACounty

      Your second paragraph would be more appropriate on YT.
      “If it’s not skin color or…..” It isn’t skin color. It’s behavior. Forcing cultures to blend has never worked. Most Bosnians, Serbs, and Croats don’t have any issues with each other. You’re referring to extremists. Extremists in any walk are simply that.

      • Edruezzi

        I feel I do not exaggerate when I say that almost every culture in the world today arrived at where it is through blending. What is a German, for instance? It may seem clear today, and it was clear to Hitler, but then look into German history and it gets murkier and murkier. In Alsace-Lorraine Germany and France blend so seamlessly that the two countries went to war three times (1871, 1914, 1939) because of it. France has it today because the Allies won World War II. In South Tyrol you’ll find an ethnically German bit of Italy, finagled by Italy from Germany as a result of the Versailles settlement. Go back further and you confront the question of what exactly Charlemagne was, a Frenchman or a German. Along the border between those two countries the genes are identical. It’s the flag you’re under and the side of the border you’re on that determines what you’re called. Go back further still and you’ll find the German people emerging from the insensate mixing of tribes in the late stone age and early bronze age.
        Cultures have been forced to blend through force. Cultures have also blended through good old fashioned lust. It all depends on time and circumstance whether the process is bloody or peaceful. Looked at from that perspective, the process that has seen American society emerge from a vast mix of peoples is only a speeded up and better documented version of the process that has given rise to every ethnic group and culture. In a day, a typical American eats a hamburger, eats pasta, listens to Michael Jackson, watches a Woody Allen movie, and uses dozens of words from Native American languages. That’s how cultures form.

  • Edruezzi

    The best thing for blacks would be to end affirmative action and quotas and let them sink or swim.

  • JohnEngelman

    Name calling is what white nationalists direct against me when they dislike being reminded of the biological superiority of Ashkenazi Jews and Orientals. They want to believe that what they are is the master race. It simply is not true.

    • Edruezzi

      Can you rigorously define biological superiority?

      • JohnEngelman

        IQ power.

        • Edruezzi

          Well, thanks for operationalizing the concept. Of course, we might note that IQ is not the only thing in biology. Producing more offspring or being more muscular or being able to adjust to different environments are also different measures of success in biology.
          Now, we all know that James Watson ignited a firestorm when he suggested that blacks were not as intelligent as whites. Watson is an excellent subject, for surely, given his knowledge of biology, he would realize the difficulties involved in accounting for how regional differentials in IQ evolved. It’s easy to declare that Europeans or East Asians became smart because they adapted to cold or they adapted to “civilization” or the printing press, or to growing rice, or to using the abacus, or whatever. A close examination casts doubt on whether human groups have added any IQ points anywhere since the stone age.
          Consider the cold argument. For cold to boost IQs we would have to demonstrate that constructing warm huts or making mittens or coats out of animal hide in the Paleo or Neolothic was so cognitively demanding that it pushed the average IQ of people across a given region rightward. Well, for one thing, are modern garment workers that smart? Did the amazing Euro IQ evolve because of the demands of stone age tailoring and hut building? That’s a noble pedigree. As for civilization, I think people should not fall for a view of history derived from Hollywood costume dramas. The past millennia since the rise of urban civilisation were not costume dramas starring Charlton Heston or Brad Pitt or Jennifer Lawrence where aristocrats with good diction and good teeth fell in love against the backdrop of pyramids and fine architecture. They were about filth and squalor and pestilence. As recently as 1910 or so experts were calculating that New York would drown in horse manure if the density of horses and carriages on its streets kept increasing. Hollywood art directors show us the fine clothes and buildings. They don’t show us the horse manure or the privies, or the hours of drudgery people spent on the farm.

          • JohnEngelman

            A close examination casts doubt on whether human groups have added any IQ points anywhere since the stone age.

            – Edruezzi

            IQ averages in the 100 range are the exclusive possession of populations that have practiced civilization for over a thousand years.

          • Edruezzi

            Hello,
            Do you know how short a thousand years is, especially in the light of evolution? We’ve had this argument before. The dominant selection pressures of the period since the rise of civilization have been such that it is simply impossible that the more intelligent or intellectual people have left more offspring. The demographics and vital statistics of Eurasia since about 10,000 BC simply don’t indicate that literate people or educated people or even intelligent people have been more productive of offspring.
            You seem to me to be quite stubborn, John.

          • JohnEngelman

            A thousand years has 40 generations in it. That is plenty of time for different population pressures to have different results.

            During the Roman Empire Jews were not considered to be unusually intelligent. Now the Ashkenazim are the most gifted racial group in existence.

          • Edruezzi

            Yes, John, the Jews are wonderful. Anybody who’s studied physics knows that more forcefully than most. I mean, 20th Century physics is a Jewish story. Jews are less than 1% of the world’s population but are somewhere like 30% of physics Nobel prize winners. The proportions are even higher for the Nobel Prize in economics. However, maybe my imagination is not sufficient for the task, but I simply can’t see how selection accomplished that. It would have to mean that smart Jews have had more children than dumb Jews. We however know that in most populations not only do less clever people outnumber smarter people, less clever people tend on average to have more children. Sex is one of the pleasures all humans can enjoy regardless of educational attainment or wealth or sophistication. Everybody does it, from the Yanomamo in the Amazon to ultra-sophisticated and affluent Manhattanites.
            Jews are also so genetically diverse that the concept of Jews as a race may well be meaningless. The only ethnic groups that were around in antiquity and are still around today largely unchanged are Han Chinese, Armenians and Jews, so I would attribute the phenomenal success of Jews to an ancient and cohesive culture that defies national borders and an acute and ever pervasive sense of persecution and isolation from the societies around them. Then there’s the role model effect. A black kid grows up seeing Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson. A Jewish kid grows up seeing Einstein and Spielberg. I reckon that makes a difference.

  • Terra Magnum Imperium

    Whites are 16% and East Asians are 25% of the population giving them a numerical advantage however more is not allows better, perhaps Japan has less bureaucracy in their patient system, maybe the Patients are Spin-offs or improvements of existing technologies and what about creativity not to mention white athletic ability.
    Now lets look at East Asian countries; China, nice scenery just don’t breath the air or speak your mind, Japan, suicide capital of the planet, Korea, half that peninsula is a totalitarian police state.
    As usual you take a few facts and run with them to promote your narrative of Asian Supremacy..
    Yes in some ways East Asians are superior In others Whites are superior but overall I find Whites as a race have more natural advantages, sadly racial preservation is no longer seems to be one of them. Aside from a deep seated emotional conviction, I base my argument on the whole of history, White culture not Asian has shaped the modern world.
    If this continues in the future, that’s a different story.

    • JohnEngelman

      White culture not Asian has shaped the modern world.

      – Terra Magnum Imperium

      Civilizations rise and fall. Western civilization fell with the end of the Western Roman Empire, and rose again with the Italian Renaissance. Now western civilization is in decline, and the Far East is rising.

  • Berkeley Guy

    Thank you for pointing out the Marshall plan. It is true that the west did much to help rebuild Japan and other nations. And we should take the effects of this into consideration.

    What I was alluding to was the ability for the Japanese to get back on their feet, try hard to keep their culture going strong, and to stick together in times of crisis. There are other groups of people that do not do as well as the Japanese in this regard.

  • Berkeley Guy

    Can you be more specific in what part of my post you are talking about? I was responding to Engelman, which I admit became somewhat tangential to the original article.

  • Edruezzi

    Well, I hope the West remains white.

  • Edruezzi

    1. The human genome sits on a big shelf as a group of books, big books too. We don’t know what a lot of the stuff printed on paper codes for but cross comparisons of the genomes of people from different continents, a rough proxy for race, shows tedious similarity and an inability to chop up the human population into neatly defined races.

    2. Boas did great work but modern developments in genetics have overshadowed his work. Anthropology is a science up to where it studies protohumans and apes. After that, well, I don’t know. It’s a lot of fluff.

    3. Subspecies do exist but the genetic divergence or distance between human racial groups is too small in precise numerical terms to qualify them as even subspecies.

    4. The concept of race derives from folk taxonomy. The more powerful methods of modern taxonomy cannot identify race at the molecular level, and in biology the molecules call the shots.

  • Edruezzi

    Whatever is done about it, I hope it’s a better idea than forming a white homeland in the Pacific Northwest or some of the other schemes I’ve heard here. I think the best solution would be to invent a warp drive and leave the planet. Most of the rest of mankind does not have the obsession with space exploration the white man does. As Konstantin Tsiolikovsky, the Russian rocket pioneer said, “The Earth was the cradle of mankind, but you can’t live in a cradle forever.” That idea would definitely work. Most Africans, apparently, have no idea that they live on a spherical planet orbiting a star, and you’d probably need surgical methods to get that idea into the head of an Amazon Indian.

  • Edruezzi

    Oh, the Greeks. The wonderful Greeks who believed the heavens consisted of glassy spheres with the stars embedded in them and whose understanding of numerical place value was nonexistent and who never thought about the concept of zero, something the Maya figured out on their own. Well, I don’t have to use Google to tell you that Greek philosophy was mostly a lot of muddled nonsense. The great achievement of the Scientific Revolution of the 1600s to about 1780 was the overthrow of views inherited from the Greeks that had stifled progress in EVERY area of science: astronomy, mechanics, chemistry, geology, biology. People like Giordano Bruno and Galileo suffered execution or house arrest because they challenged Greek views. As for philosophy, recall what the logical positivists made of philosophy. Today philosophy is wondering about its very intellectual worth.
    The Greeks gave the world the axiomatic method of proof, still used today. Their geometry can be mastered by a smart high school student, however. As for just about everything else, the moderns superseded it or rendered it irrelevant.
    I did not rely on Google for the above passage, BTW. I mentioned Google for the reference use of my readers.

  • Berkeley Guy

    No worries, I wasn’t offended. I was trying to understand Engelman’s position on current trends.

  • Edruezzi

    Sorry, but I’ve noticed a lot of posts talking about the formation of a homeland.

  • Edruezzi

    I stand by what I said. Yes, the Greek contribution was worthless, in the given areas at least. Recall what Isaac Asimov said. Someone who says that the Earth is flat is wrong and someone who says the Earth is spherical is wrong as well. One however is less wrong than the other. The Greeks were completely wrong except in trivial areas.
    The chief problems with Greek science were:

    1. It was actually not science. It was philosophy. The most famous experiment in the history of Greek science, the guy who shouted Eureka! after noticing stuff in his bathtub, was not a deliberately planned and framed experiment. No notion of experimentation as corrective of theory existed in Greek science. Even the modern conception of scientific theory as we know it did not exist in Greek times and would have baffled the Greeks. The Greek sages made dogmatic pronouncements about a universe with humanized values. The Greek argument, for instance, that planetary orbits must be circular because the circle is perfect is not only nonsense but imposes a human notion, perfection, on an utterly indifferent universe.

    2. Greek “science” impeded the progress of science in every area you care to name: astronomy, physics, chemistry, geology, biology. Galileo, Kepler and the other heroes of the Scientific Revolution had to do a lot of work to disabuse European savants of the Greek influence.

    3. Philosophy of science books or papers often present Greek science as lying along a continuum with modern theories. The problem is a little more complex than that. When Einstein’s relativistic account of mechanics and gravity overthrew Newton’s after a 250 or so year period when Newton went unchallenged, Newton’s equations and his entire theory ended up as a small area of Einstein’s concepts that could be obtained from limiting operations. Greek physics had no place in Newton’s physics. It was simply wrong.

    4. I do not deny the seminal influence of the Greeks on Western civilization. Aeschylus’ and Euripides’ plays are still performed. As I noted in my previous post, the Greek invention of the axiomatic proof is still crucial to mathematics, computer science and physics. We should however not exaggerate the intellectual leap forward the Greeks made.

  • Edruezzi

    Thank you.
    1. Google happens to exist in our time and my assumption is that someone on Amren is both using a computer and is on the Internet and can therefore find something on Google right away. Nevertheless, I will begin to direct my readers to pick up and leaf through the print edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica from now on.

    2. Now, the Greek civilization was amazing. One of my favorite books is Why the West has Won by Victor Davis Hanson, which demonstrated the scale and significance of the Greek achievement. Five million Greeks for example were able to decisively defeat a Persian Empire of around 80 million people. The Greeks were incredibly advanced for their time. T

  • Edruezzi

    Thank you.
    I’ll look them up. On second thought, we may have no other explanations for tragedies like the Congo.

    • JohnEngelman

      What is going on in the Congo was going on long before the Congo was a Belgium colony. It was going on as long as humans and pre humans were living there. Before they used AK 47’s they used iron tipped spears. Before they used iron tipped spears they made spear heads out of stone.

      The only difference is that now white people write news stories about it.

      • Edruezzi

        You’re right.