The Agony of Frank Luntz

Molly Ball, The Atlantic, January 6, 2014

Frank Luntz does not want the buffet. We are on the top floor of the Capitol Hill Club, the members-only Republican hangout a block from the Capitol, where a meaty smell is emanating from steam trays. Today’s main course is ham, and Luntz shakes his head.

{snip}

America’s best-known public-opinion guru hasn’t suddenly gone vegan. Luntz—the tubby, rumpled guy who runs the focus groups on Fox News after presidential debates, the political consultant and TV fixture whose word has been law in Republican circles since he helped write the 1994 Contract With America—has always been a hard man to please. But something is different now, he tells me. Something is wrong. Something in his psyche has broken, and he does not know if he can recover.

“I’ve had a headache for six days now, and it doesn’t go away,” he tells me as we take our seats at a table downstairs. “I don’t sleep for more than two or three hours at a time. I’m probably less healthy now than I have ever been in my life.” He’s not sure what to do. He’s still going through the motions—giving speeches, going on television, conducting focus groups, and advising companies and politicians on how best to convey their message.

But beneath the surface, he says, is a roiling turmoil that threatens to consume him. {snip}

And yet, over the hour and a half I spend talking with him—the first time he has spoken publicly about his current state of mind—it’s hard to grasp what the crisis is about. Luntz hasn’t renounced his conservative worldview. His belief in unfettered capitalism and individual self-reliance appears stronger than ever. He hasn’t become disillusioned with his very profitable career or his nomadic, solitary lifestyle. His complaints—that America is too divided, President Obama too partisan, and the country in the grip of an entitlement mentality that is out of control—seem pretty run-of-the-mill. But his anguish is too deeply felt not to be real. Frank Luntz is having some kind of crisis. I just can’t quite get my head around it.

A few weeks after our lunch, Luntz tells me he’s made a move. He has changed his principal residence from Northern Virginia to a condo overlooking the Las Vegas Strip, and he’s contemplating a sale of his company, Luntz Global LLC, the details of which he is not at liberty to discuss. Las Vegas, he says, represents “my chance to be intellectually challenged again” by a place that is “the closest thing to a melting pot America has to offer.” As fresh starts go, it’s not much, but Luntz hopes it will bring some new clarity.

{snip}

The crisis began, he says, after last year’s presidential election, when Luntz became profoundly depressed. For more than a month, he tried to stay occupied, but nothing could keep his attention. Finally, six weeks after the election, during a meeting of his consulting company in Las Vegas, he fell apart. Leaving his employees behind, he flew back to his mansion in Los Angeles, where he stayed for three weeks, barely going outside or talking to anyone.

{snip}

His side had lost. Mitt Romney had, in his view, squandered a good chance at victory with a strategically idiotic campaign. (“I didn’t work on the campaign. It just sucked, as a professional. And it killed me because I realized on Election Day that there’s nothing I can do about it.”) But Luntz’s side had lost elections before. His dejection was deeper: It was, he says, about why the election was lost. “I spend more time with voters than anybody else,” Luntz says. “I do more focus groups than anybody else. I do more dial sessions than anybody else. I don’t know shit about anything, with the exception of what the American people think.”

It was what Luntz heard from the American people that scared him. They were contentious and argumentative. They didn’t listen to each other as they once had. They weren’t interested in hearing other points of view. They were divided one against the other, black vs. white, men vs. women, young vs. old, rich vs. poor. “They want to impose their opinions rather than express them,” is the way he describes what he saw. “And they’re picking up their leads from here in Washington.” Haven’t political disagreements always been contentious, I ask? “Not like this,” he says. “Not like this.”

Luntz knew that he, a maker of political messages and attacks and advertisements, had helped create this negativity, and it haunted him. But it was Obama he principally blamed. The people in his focus groups, he perceived, had absorbed the president’s message of class divisions, haves and have-nots, of redistribution. It was a message Luntz believed to be profoundly wrong, but one so powerful he had no slogans, no arguments with which to beat it back. In reelecting Obama, the people had spoken. And the people, he believed, were wrong. Having spent his career telling politicians what the people wanted to hear, Luntz now believed the people had been corrupted and were beyond saving. Obama had ruined the electorate, set them at each other’s throats, and there was no way to turn back.

Why not? I ask. Isn’t finding the right words to persuade people what you do? “I’m not good enough,” Luntz says. “And I hate that. I have come to the extent of my capabilities. And this is not false modesty. I think I’m pretty good. But not good enough.” The old Frank Luntz was sure he could invent slogans to sell the righteous conservative path of personal responsibility and free markets to anyone. The new Frank Luntz fears that is no longer the case, and it’s driving him crazy.

{snip}

Luntz is famous not just on television—he has talking-head contracts with both CBS and Fox News, a rare arrangement—but among the political and business elite. When he walks into the Capitol Hill Club, he is beset by Republican members of Congress wanting to talk to him and soak up his aura of celebrity. He boasts that he speaks to at least one Fortune 500 CEO every day. Yet, in his telling, he is still the little guy, the outsider, the schlub—half anxious, half awed by the trappings of power. {snip}

Luntz’s work has always been predicated on a sort of populism—the idea that politicians must figure out what voters want to hear, and speak to them in language that comports with it. He proudly claims that his famous catchphrases, like branding healthcare reform a “government takeover” in 2010, are not his coinages but the organic product of his focus groups. The disheveled appearance, the sardonic wit, all add up to a sort of tilting against the establishment, an insistence that it listen to the Real People.

But what if the Real People are wrong? That is the possibility Luntz now grapples with. What if the things people want to hear from their leaders are ideas that would lead the country down a dangerous road?

“You should not expect a handout,” he tells me. “You should not even expect a safety net. When my house burns down, I should not go to the government to rebuild it. I should have the savings, and if I don’t, my neighbors should pitch in for me, because I would do that for them.” The entitlement he now hears from the focus groups he convenes amounts, in his view, to a permanent poisoning of the electorate—one that cannot be undone. “We have now created a sense of dependency and a sense of entitlement that is so great that you had, on the day that he was elected, women thinking that Obama was going to pay their mortgage payment, and that’s why they voted for him,” he says. “And that, to me, is the end of what made this country so great.”

{snip}

Luntz’s populism has turned on itself and become its opposite: fear and loathing of the masses. “I am grateful that Occupy Wall Street turned out to be a bunch of crazy, disgusting, rude, horrible people, because they were onto something,” he says. “Limbaugh made fun of me when I said that Occupy Wall Street scares me. Because he didn’t hear what I hear. He doesn’t see what I see.” The people are angry. They want more, not because we have not given them enough but because we have given them too much.

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  • Mack0

    One of the rare occasions I completely agree with Luntz.

    • Although to me, focus groups (along with polling) should be made crimes against humanity. The problem with FGs is that the consist predominately of middle age white women, and therefore the FG comes to the conclusion of any alpha male that happens to be in the group, the women follow his lead, or if there is no alpha male in the group, the women hive around the modern PC zeitgeist there is on the topic.

      • mikebowen55

        The “alpha male” in these groups is really just a beta female to the elites that own them.

        • Laura Dilworth

          donors

      • sbuffalonative

        The problem is focus groups focus on the opinions of the wrong people; the lukewarm, middle-ground. On can’t take bold action if one is seeking the opinion of Joe Average.

        • IstvanIN

          They use focus groups to design cars nowadays, and look how bland they are. There was a time men were independent thinkers who came up with brilliant, and sometimes not so brilliant, ideas. Now we live in an always the safe, middle-of-the-road, soviet style conformity.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            I remember seeing Luntz manipulate the results of a Focus Group during the 2012 election. He had a group of middle class people from Wisconsin, typical polite Upper Midwesterners, in the studio. He tried to get them worked up, they had very mild disagreements, were more consensual than anything else. Luntz turned to the camera and said something to the effect of “There, you can see how passionate people are about this election.” I thought, cripes, if that’s passion, how do they reproduce? What a scammer.

      • MikeofAges

        My impression is, focus groups reveal the weak point in the psyches of the participants. They help political operatives find the strategies and talking points which will render people immobile and incapable of resistance.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Middle-age white women are the only ones available. Their husbands are working.

        Women have the option to work full time, part time, or not at all. All options are available and acceptable.

        Men are bums if they work part time or not at all. But, I’m sure the Focus Groups find a War on Women somewhere in those facts.

        • LovelyNordicHeidi

          It would be nice if there were people who argued for women’s rights to be able to stay home if they want to. I skipped a few classes, so I finished my bachelor early. I have my bachelor now, and I just want to stay home for my child. The main problem is that there are no serious attempts to support women who want to stay home for their children. That is a real women’s right, and I can assert you that, although my husband is really good at his job, he would not be good at playing mom. More financial support would be a great help in general, and I am sure that there is enough money for supporting mothers who stay at home for their children when people learn how to have priorities and to not irrationally throw our money on the misplaced altruism heap of foreign aid and welfare to non-natives. There are enough problems in our own nations, and we do not need to solve all the problems of the world, they are not ours in the first place. I want to get my master’s degree eventually, and perhaps I will be able to study while I raise my children, but what do I care about what politicians expect of me? I just want to fulfill my role as a good parent, and that is it. Those politicians should support me and other women, and for the rest they should not interfere with our lives. I do not want any politician to tell me that I have to work. I have my own priorities, and they can go fantase about our their own utopias as long as they do not bother me with those delusional ideas. On number one of my priority list: my one-year-old child, and thereafter the possibility that I might consider what I might be able to contribute to society by taking a “real job”. Really, does not anyone think that it is ridiculous that being a mother is not considered a “job”. A traditional women role should be honourful and not dishonourful. The hunter-gathering that men are doing with their job and the nursing that women do is part of a system to keep our society going, both male and female roles should be respected as they are necessary for our survival as a team.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Who are you? Did they finally perfect the time machine??

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Oh, maybe you get now why I was so disliked at school. I said stone age things! But I mean what I say 😀

          • AndrewInterrupted

            You rock. Good for you.

            Jared Taylor deserves a lot of credit for sticking to his guns all these years, too.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Thanks again!

            Jared Taylor is a really eloquent and enthusiastic guy. If people like us were not so impopular, Taylor would have been a well-known figure, even among younger people.

          • JohnEngelman

            White nationalists are unpopular because a hatred burns in them that is repulsive to normal people.

            Nevertheless, when asked if he is a white nationalist Jared Taylor replied, “No. I don’t know what the term white nationalist is supposed to mean.”

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “White nationalists are unpopular because a hatred burns in them that is repulsive to normal people.”

            Whatever you say, John. The problem is however that I do not see the hatred when one says that blacks have a lower IQ than Whites and so on. I only see underlying hatred when you say that Whites could “improve” themselves by mixing with Orientals. Are you serious? Like any people has the right to survive, my people also has the right to survive, unmixed and intact. Jews do not hide their intentions concerning this matter, and we should not either. I am not pro-White because I want to hate, but because I care about the survival of my people. That is a difference. And yes, it is hard to be unemotional about something, but the character of the White advocate is much more complex than you seem to think. Jared Taylor is a good man, because he speaks the truth, and I admire his person, his work and his neutral position.

          • JohnEngelman

            Just as Orientals tend to be more intelligent than white Gentiles, so white Gentiles tend to be more intelligent than blacks. I have pointed that out many times on this website.

            If approving of interracial marriage means that one hates whites, then the vast majority of whites hate their own race, because 87 percent of Americans approve of interracial marriage. I do not think whites who join me in approving of miscegenation hate our race.

            If you do not want to marry a non white that is no problem. Don’t do it.

            I agree with you about Jared Taylor. That is why I frequently quote his writings here.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            JE: “because 87 percent of Americans approve of interracial marriage.”

            The classical argument from the majority! As if I were going to fall for that. What the majority does, does not mean that what they do is right. If the majority kills people every day, it does not mean that it is right. And if the majority thinks that killing every day is right, then you are going to tell me that killing every day is right? Seriously?

            JE: “I do not think whites who join me in approving of miscegenation hate our race.”

            Superificially they don’t, but underlyingly they do. If you don’t think that your ancestry is worth preserving, then you’ll go for miscegenation.

            JE: “If you do not want to marry a non white that is no problem. Don’t do it.”

            It is not as simple as that, John. There is a difference between encouraging and discouraging miscegenation. You sound really nice when you say stuff like this, but you are not convincing me. You can repeat all you want that you don’t care about mixing or no mixing, but know this, repetition doesn’t make you right about something.

            JE: “I agree with you […]. That is why I frequently quote his writings here.”

            You’re cute when you say that we agree, so let’s both be cute now, and I’ll listen to what cute Johnny has to say! Meh… I hope Johnny doesn’t go on with justifying miscegenation, though, otherwise he ain’t cute anymore!

          • LACounty

            Taylor has balls of steel and an amount of patience that I can’t comprehend. Watching him speak on race causes me to relax when I speak about it.

          • Sick of it

            I never said such things out loud, but always thought along similar lines, as some of the first things I read and the first people I read about were from thousands of years ago. I’ve been disgusted with the decadence and depravity of the modern world since I was a small child.

          • Geo1metric

            Evola: REVOLT AGAINST THE MODERN WORLD.

          • Sick of it

            I’ll take a look at that when I have the time. Sounds interesting.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Are you sure you have a “bachelors?”

            Your comment was unreadable because it was one long paragraph. Not sure what you were trying to say, could you format it a little better.

            honourful and not dishonourful (?)

            impopular (?)

          • NeanderthalDNA

            She’s experiencing the zeal of the convert. Trying to type as fast as she’s thinking. Go easy.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Don’t let your guard down NeanderthalDNA. I have encountered trolls exactly like this commenter on many other threads. I’ve seen countless good posters like you fall for this kind of tripe, when it is set up.

            Membership here is earned, AFAIC. Don’t be so trusting.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I understand. Smile and be nice. If she’s fake-o it will either all come out or she will tire and go away.

            If she’s fake-o she’s pretty good.

            I string webs up and put juicy morsels in them, see what flies in.

            Point taken, though. I’ll continue playing good cop and you can be the bad man, sounds cool.

            Funny. I usually prefer being the bad man…

          • Dr. Möbias

            You have no idea how good these types of trolls are, they are professionals. They know coming on here and calling us a bunch of racists is going to get them nowhere so they take another tactic, like this, pretending to be a young male or female white “looking for information,” a sanctuary from the “horrible world” and acting like they’re one of us. This was the very trap laid on TOO that eventually shut down all commentary. This troll was able to pit regular posters at each other’s throats and then sit back and watch the fall out. KMac had to close down commentary over a year ago and hasn’t opened it back up again.

            Anyone who posted regularly on TOO knows the comments there were as good as the articles for information, knowledge and links.

            These trolls are very knowledgeable about how to take down forums like this and I’ve seen it done exactly the same way.

            All I’m saying is keep your guard up, be suspicious of new posters who act all innocent and try to draw you in.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I know, brother. Had a little experience on the other side before my epiphany actually.

            I like to kill them with kindness and draw them in too. Eventually a mistake is made.

            Sometimes, however, an agitprop absorbs the thoughts and style of the enemy so well…

            They convert. We’ll see, eh?

          • Dr. Möbias

            They’ve learned from their past mistakes and are really good. You’ve been really drawn in I see from looking down this thread.

            Be careful, friend. You’ve been drawn in and it may be a trap, you’re already starting to post about your dreams, which is the troll eliciting information from you and getting you on his or her side. When the trap is sprung, you come to the troll’s defense over other long time posters and that is the beginning of the end. I’m telling you I’ve seen this exact tactic used to great effect.

            Whoever this is, is sitting on this thread, another huge red flag.

            The more I’m reading, the more I think this is a troll attack.

            Geez people, be cautious. Have you learned nothing? We’re losing our entire damned country from being so trusting. Our enemies PLAY on our trusting nature. Once burned…

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I got ya. Have at her! Shake the tree and see what falls out.
            Que sera sera.

          • Mergatroyd

            Don’t make the mistake of thinking trolls like this will convert. They are so mentally focused and brainwashed into destroying whites that nothing will stop them from their mission which is to shut down sites like this.

            The Dr. made the right call, BTW, and you’d best heed his advice, the signs certainly are there.

            √ New poster

            √ Pretending to be an innocent young girl (23 in this case with a baby — but can stay on these threads for 24 hour blocks? Is that not a red flag?), young White high school student stuck in a black school, innocent young child, 10 years old, who “no one understands” because of his views. I’ve seen this used before on forums just like this.

            √ Cosying up to regular commenters to draw them in “Hi! Nice to meet you! So glad we could talk. Tell me more.”

            √ Asking lots of “innocent” questions”

            √ Will stay on threads for hours and hours listening to you as you pour out your dreams, goals and aspirations for life. You are hooked now. One young poster on Alternative Right was about to hand over all his banking information I think before I clued him in. He was on the same thread with the troll for over 24 hours (pretended to be a young innocent 20-year old girl in this case too.) He felt like a fool after I outted the wretch to the others.

            I could be very wrong here, but I don’t think I am. Like the doctor reported, this is the same tactic used on other pro-White threads to completely destroy them.

            This is how it works: The troll gets a few, strong, regular posters on his or her side over time then starts accusing others of being covert Nazis, undercover ADL agents, working for the other side, etc. depending on the forum.

            YOU, because you’ve poured out your heart to the troll (whom you’ve just met, BTW), come to “her, his” aid against other posters because, he/she is “just one of us,” right? You get all mouthy about supporting and defending this troll to the point of extreme anger. Pretty soon, you don’t know who is on your side and who isn’t and whom to trust. You’ve been made a fool and you didn’t even know it and it looks like you’re falling for it right now. TOO was attacked exactly like this and so was Alternative Right.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Nah you make lots of sense. If agitprop I think our conversations will have the result of shooing her off.

            I did notice this…

            Her comments often uncannily mirror the comments she responds to. Certainly she could be of like mind, but this is also an effective tactic. I call it ham sammichin’. You look at the ham sammich your target fixes, then reproduce it and serve it back. Target thinks he/she’s found a kindred soul, confidence gained, munches on the ham sammich that’s been passed back. Ultimately gets indigestion when the salmonella kicks in.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Don’t know ‘TOO’. I will have to Google that one.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “Anyone who posted regularly on TOO knows the comments there were as good as the articles for information, knowledge and links.”

            Apart from the notes on infiltrators, you answered a question I had already for some time. I wondered why the comments at TOO were shutdown, now I know. It wasn’t so hard to guess actually. ;D

          • Mergatroyd

            Trolls have a funny way of ferreting out the systems admin and moderators and cosying up to them through flattery, ego stroking, and listening “when no one else would.” Don’t know how they do it, but they do and whether or not you’re a systems admin, the troll has glommed onto you.

            I will say this before I depart from this thread: I hope you and any others here who have fallen for this troll’s “charms” have at least given what I and the Dr. have said a good thought. Read
            LeGrandDerangement posts again and again. He got caught up in the same thing over on Alternative Right.

          • Tom B.

            Sure glad you came along and filled me in on some of the goings on. I’m new at this too so a little coaching is helpful. The little blonde had me fooled!!!!!!!!!!$$$##### Think I’ll go take a cold shower!

          • LACounty

            That didn’t take long. 🙂

          • LeGrandDerangement

            Yep, got burned once and now I’m extremely sensitive to the smell of smoke.

          • Jotun Hunter

            john engelman never tired or went away

          • Mergatroyd

            Engelman is already “out.” He makes no bones about his anti-White positions, we know exactly what he is and what he stands for. He says so constantly on almost every thread.

            Trolls like this one are far more dangerous because they work covertly and pretend to be one of us. It’s the only way they can make inroads.

            Do you not remember the troll attack at Alternative Right about a month ago? I recognized it immediately from the same experience at TOO and I see it happening here too.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            In all the years I visited here, I found him the most enigmatic.

          • John Engelman isn’t really a troll. He’s not trying to shut down discussion or convince anyone here to do anything illegal. His main gripe seems to the violent crime blacks enjoy committing.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yeah, he is tough to pin down.

          • Mergatroyd

            Maybe she’s not as educated as you think she is, that or, more likely, her native language isn’t English but perhaps Hebrew.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Oh I have no idea how educated she is. I do know, however, that many college grads of her gen have been poorly “educated” in terms of grammar and proper writing techniques. Also they are products of the “lol/leetspeak” culture, some of which is indeed a devolution in communication, but some of which is simply adaptation to new technology and all that comes with.

            I dated a woman too young for me some years ago who was a very bright woman, great at math…but almost dyslexic in regard to grammar and writing. Part was her weird brain, but part was also the terrible job our educational system does with its dumbed down standards regarding written communication.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “that many college grads of her gen have been poorly “educated” in terms of grammar and proper writing techniques”

            Have you ever heard how bad the English of Germans can be? English classes are really bad in Germany. When I graduated, I still didn’t understand much of what I had been taught. Fortunately, the internet has been invented to cure our ignorance…

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yup.

            The person to whom I referred had a mother who was non-native speaker. I think some of her errors, including misuse of prepositions (an almost sure telltale sign of speaking in a second language) stemmed from that. Also she was kind of dyslexic, in speech as well as writing, which resulted in some very funny moments.

            But grammar is old fashioned, racist, and most importantly HARD, therefore better to teach “natural language”…or what I call glorified street-ook.

            You’ve stirred up quite a storm here dear Valkyrie, lol. I used to be a real lefty agitprop myself a long time ago. Apologies if some have been wrong, but this is how the cookie crumbles.

            How’s the kids and hubby?

            Gotta go now and help a friend with her kid’s Spanish. Looks like I’ll miss the new postings. Take care.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            NeanderthalDNA: “How’s the [kid] and hubby?”

            They are doing fine.

            I did not tell my husband much about AmRen, but he is busy these days and I think that he is catching a flue, because he looks a little pale. It could be stress though. I hate how stressful this society can be.

            I watch my child constantly, unlike those liberal parents who argue that you need to let go of everything and let children grow up without parental guidance. My child is really tranquil, she was like that from day one. I feared that my child would cry a lot, because my parents have told me that I suffered from baby colic when I was baby. They gave me the advice to ignore the crying, but I would not have done that even if my child suffered from baby colic. My philosophy is that a child needs to feel welcome from day one, so you need to give it a lot of attention. It was a huge relief for us that the first months went really well, and now we are waiting for her to say her first word(s). Anyways, it is also important that we talk about parenting on AmRen, because we could share a lot of experiences and we need to make sure that our knowledge of traditional parenting is not lost.

            NeanderthalDNA: “But grammar is […] racist”

            My knowledge of German grammar makes me a perfect racist. It is too hard for non-Whites, and really, German is only a language for national socialists! Not only German grammar is racist, but also the whole German language IS racist! I wonder when they will start arguing that languages like Latin and Greek are racist because they were mainly spoken by WHITES and they are too hard for NON-WHITES. When Latin and Greek are racist, then German grammar schools are definitely racist!

            Conclusion: education is just racist because it was invented by Whites and it led to the development of the racist Western civilisation!

            You will get used to my sarcasm, Germans just love sarcasm.

            NeanderthalDNA: “I used to be a real lefty agitprop myself a long time ago.”

            One can better have a powerful ally than a powerful enemy.

            NeanderthalDNA: “You’ve stirred up quite a storm here dear Valkyrie, lol.”

            I imagine that when the Valkyries (Walküren) came to pick up the fallen heroes from the battlefield, they must have caused quite a storm 🙂

            This is how I became a “Valkyrie”:

            When my parents found out about my “political extremism”, they tried to lead me back to “the righteous path”. That never helped, so they gave up and thought “she’s just a teenager, it’ll pass”, but they were wrong, because reality doesn’t pass. School didn’t change, society didn’t change and the Western world didn’t change, so my opinions never changed and only moved further away from all the naive PC opinions. My basic opinions were, are and will always be right.

            One day when I was in an angry mood and revealed that I thought that all foreigners should leave Germany instantly, my parents accused me of being “crazy” and “psychotic”, and urged me to see a “psychiatrist”. I talked them out of it, and showed them that I am perfectly sane and that apparently the world is just insane.

            Some people would like nothing more than seeing me and my husband in a madhouse (Irrenhaus), because we are supposed to be “dangerous people”. The only thing that we are “dangerous” for is the realisation of the end of liberalism (and cultural marxism). I often think: “Yes, I am really dangerous, because I don’t have a PC world view! How ridiculous.”

            My father could usually control his primitive urges when he and my mother had an argument with me, but once in a very heated argument where my parents threatened me with “disowning me” – which I answered with a smile “go ahead” – my father hit me. I never reconciled with my parents after that (I could never forgive my parents), but we still have contact “because I am their daughter”, and of course they hope that my husband keeps me “on the right path”. Fortunately they do not really know what my husband knows and how he thinks about the world.

            Soon after the incident with my father, I called my maternal grandparents, they picked me up and I lived with them for some time. They could also never forgive my father. My maternal grandparents have repeatedly said that my father is an idiot, and the only good thing that he ever did is giving them grandchildren. I do not agree with their opinion, because he is my father, but I do not feel comfortable around him.

            What my father did, proved that I was right. When liberals cannot convince you with their naive PC opinions, they will resort to brutal force and try hit the “controversial” opinions out of you. Obviously that didn’t work, and now I have won. My parents do not bother me anymore with their PC opinions, because they feel ashamed of what happened. I do however not understand why my mother still supports/loves my father. If I were her, I would have asked for a divorce. But if she did, I would still have felt sorry for my father.

            Like the hippies revolted against their traditional parents, young ethnonationalists must revolt against their liberal parents and change the course of history for once and for all. Extreme liberalism will only produce an “extreme” counterreaction; liberalism just provokes people and makes people look for “naughty” alternatives.

            We must understand that liberals are highly dangerous people. They project upon us what they ARE. When they accuse us of extremism, they are extremists. When they say that we are crazy, they are crazy. When they accuse us of violence, they are violent. That is how it works.

            If I were naive, I could have seen the incident with my father as proof for the necessity of feminism, but I knew that it had nothing to do with a “male problem” but with an ideological problem. If my parents were not so confused and stubborn, they would have been able to see the world in a much more realistic way. They should have abandoned liberalism, and accepted the truth of race realism (and Rassenkunde). But apparently it felt much better to hit me than accepthing the truth…

            I know how liberals think, because I have been one and unfortunately my parents are still. Whether or not my liberal-friendly language convinces people of the evil of liberalism, it matters that you remember all your too nice experiences with liberals… like being hit by your own father. That is what it takes to be honest and to tell the TRUTH, and if you have experienced such things – which you certainly did – then use it to convert the young liberals. The new generation should be your target, because the new generation is fed up with liberalism. Stir the revolting souls of the young liberals in the right direction, so that they become aware of the REAL world. Their parents cannot “protect” them from becoming aware of the real world, because the young liberals actually need to be protected from the racial conflicts of this world. The young liberals will end up being race-conscious, and they only need the helping hand of more experienced race realists to find their way and to know what to do and what not to do.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Heidi you’re a weirdo.

            In a world turned upside down that, by the way, is a compliment…

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            NeanderthalDNA: “Heidi you’re a weirdo.”

            Then we have something to compete with 😀

          • Anna Tree

            I disagree, I think Germans have the best English-as-a-second language-while-not-living-in-an-English-speaking-country! Every time I was in Germany, old or young, Germans had a very good English, better of anyone I knew in my country. Beside being the most polite 🙂
            Maybe English classes have been “enriched” lately though…

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Anna Tree: “Maybe English classes have been “enriched” lately though…”

            The problems with modern German schools are:

            1. Multiculturalism
            2. Lack of discipline
            3. Hatred of “Nerds”
            4. Distraction
            5. Bad teachers
            6. Bad schoolbooks
            7. Too much propaganda

            I think that the Dutch are better at English than we are. I do not know how good Germans are at English statistically, but I am sure that not every German speaks English well and I doubt that the majority of Germans knows their English. That is all that I can really say about this matter! 😉

          • LeGrandDerangement

            How do you know she’s a “she”?

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “Your comment was unreadable because it was one long paragraph.”

            You are right, I will modify that for you. I always wrote texts as single long paragraphs in my private notebooks, and I know that I should realise that I am writing for a wider audience than myself alone.

            “Are you sure you have a “bachelors?””

            Nice rhetorical question, and I know what you mean, although the rhetoric was not needed. My native tongue is not English… It is very unfortunate that I have a linguistic disadvantage every now and then..

            “honourful and not dishonourful (?)”

            1. The -ou- for -o- is British.

            2. I should perhaps have written “honourful – not dishonourful -“.

            My English and German are and look sometimes like translated Latin. Bad influence from Latin… ;D

            “impopular”

            non-mainstream, controversial… any other synonym you might like to replace the word “impopular” with.

            Thank you for pointing out the “linguistic” problems of my comment.

            Heidi

          • Dr. Möbias

            “Honuorful” and “dishonuorful” with or without the “u” are not words in the English language.

            Did you used to post on Alternative Right using the name of Rabbi something or other?

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “using the name of Rabbi something or other?”

            Never did.

            “””Honuorful” and “dishonuorful” with or without the “u” are not words in the English language.

            Darn, I should have written “honorable” and “dishonorable”. What you said about the “ou” (not uo) is not really right, look up the word “honour” in a British English dictionary. (I do not say this to offend you. I just want to prove to you that there are spelling variations.) In the end, American vs. British spelling does not matter.

          • Dr. Möbias

            I didn’t say HONOR or HONOUR were not words, HONORFUL and HONOURFUL are not words.

            How long have you been sitting on this thread? 24 hours or more?

            Why?

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “I didn’t say HONOR or HONOUR were not words, HONORFUL or HONOURFUL are not words.”

            Dr. Mobias, please calm down, otherwise we start talking past each other. I am going to correct the mistake of “honourful” to the correct word “honorable”. We agree on everything concerning the linguistic problems.

            “How long have you been sitting on this thread? 24 hours or more? Why?”

            Only time can prove that I am really on your side. There is a time difference between the USA and Germany. It is 00:37 (i.e. 12:37 AM – CET) now in Germany, you can check the corresponding time for the USA. I started checking posts more regularly from 18:00. It was Sunday, so I could do whatever I wanted. I might sometimes find the time to post something from 12:00, etc. but it really depends upon what I need to do in the household. The longer you will have me on this site, you might start to trust me more, but I understand your distrust. I never trust non-Whites for example, and distrust helps us to survive.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            I remember him. I was one who let myself get sucked into his game. He posed as a guy in high school somewhere in northern Wisconsin, even got to exchanging local information with another commenter from the area. An experienced commenter flushed him out. He boasted and said he was with a company in New York which trolled ethnonationalist sites.

          • Mergatroyd

            BINGO!!

            I was the one that flushed him out because I recognized his tactic immediately. By the time I’d gotten to that thread at Alternative Right several posters there had already expressed loyalty to this punk and had been up all night with him pouring out their hearts.

            It was sickening. Unfortunately, those threads were erased otherwise I’d link to them.

            The posters on Alternative Right at least took the warning and advice I put out and I hope the ones here on American Renaissance to too.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            Yeah, it’s coming back to me now. He posed as a high school kid with an “aw, shucks” demeanor and talked about a sister who got picked on by diversity. I only exchanged a couple of posts with him, mainly about racial demographics in northern WI/MN. When he came bounding out of the closet he asked me if I wanted to change my racist views, lol. He had a number of aliases. I remember you immediately began sounding alarm bells on him.

          • Mergatroyd

            Thanks for that. You guys were in the midst of a full-blown troll attack when I arrived and no one there had had the experience that I’d had, the tactics of which I recognized instantly.

            I didn’t have a chance to read all of your responses (you and Missouri Rhineland I think) but they went on and on obviously for hours and hours, all night! The few I read were unbelievable. Posters were pouring out their inner most selves to this troll who was brand new to Alternative Right and had only posted a few comments. I was amazed at how quickly people were sucked in.

            That’s what happens when you’re cynical and trust no one from a lot of hard experience. The more that recognize this tactic the better. Now you’ll know to keep an eye out so others are sucked in.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            No, like I said above, I only had a couple of exchanges with him, about demographics in the Upper Midwest. But some of the others really yakked it up with him, all the while you were posting alarms. When he exposed himself I felt really creepy, talking to someone that dishonest. It’s inspired me to emulate the protagonist in my favorite Norwegian movie, The Trollhunter, lol.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            I just remembered something else about this creep. After he exposed himself, he said that diversity actually had picked on his sister, that he hadn’t made that up. That’s logical: Vibrancy goes after your family so you troll ethnonationalist sites. Ooooookay.

          • Garrett Brown

            Mergatroyd, the ultimate detective android, AKA Snagglepuss.

          • Mergatroyd

            If I don’t ferret out these trolls, who will? They understand your weaknesses and psychology better than you do and are masters of deception. What has shocked me is how gullible people are, engaging in deep personal conversations with someone who has flattered them in one or two posts. We, as a people, need to be far less trusting, it’s how we’ve lost our country.

            I’m sure you wouldn’t like it if Jared Taylor released a statement that from now on there will be no commentary on American Renaissance. This is how it went down on Occidental Observer, when KMac told us all commentary was henceforth shut down.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I see your point, especially if people exchange addresses, etc. It’s only a personal security issue, though. It’s not a ideological threat.

            No POS from a NY lobby who trolls sites strong in nationalistic thinking will alter my opinions or silence me. I’m not afraid of speaking my mind and having some slippery NY snake hearing it. Who is zooming who? I’m educating that little turd. I own him.

            Having said that, people should not exchange personal info beyond roughly their demographic. Rabbi-what’s-his-face from Alternative Right was a loser. When he wasn’t trolling ethno-sites, he was playing computer games in his underwear in Mom’s basement.

            I don’t have anything to hide. If someone challenges me, I will give him the beat-down he is aching for. When you have nothing to hide and you are completely in the right, you can’t lose. Bring it!

          • Dr. Möbias

            Get yourself behind a VPN, maybe two, ASAP. Or use the Tor, otherwise your IP is exposed to these jerks. If they get your identity, they can to expose you to your boss.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            They do that because they have something to hide–and lose.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            If you are agitprop you’re pretty good, lol.

            Strive for conciseness if possible. I don’t always live up to that advice certainly, but…less opportunity for error.

            I’m thinking you are real, dear, but I will be watching closely. The good Doc has some great points and if you are for real I trust you will understand.

            We ARE being watched, you know?

            I like to send a shout out to Eric Holder from time to time from here and invite him to come on in and have a discussion on race, but up til now he’s proven too much of a coward.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Now you’re getting it.

          • Anna Tree

            Wow, I didn’t get this attention LOL

            I assume that Heidi is just so young, blond and beautiful, a white woman, a good wife and so proud… but we don’t want to be particularly suspicious to those, they do exist. Similarly we could suspect so called Neanderthals and doctors too (just teasing haha). I am older, not blond and maybe not as beautiful but try to be a good wife and for sure very proud of the white race.

            I understand that people need to be careful… I presume trust comes with time… Also some of us post white racialist posts in other sites too, I do (never provocatively, just facts, those are the best eyes openers I think) and I posted before that on other issues in a similar recognizable way, I think that adds to references in the long term.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I think you’re beautiful, Anna.

            Just post a picture of Yvone Strahovski for your avatar if you want more responses, LOL!!!

          • Anna Tree

            Hopefully a picture of a French actress would work too LOL, who would know the truth, maybe you never shaved in your whole life hahaha

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Don’t ya love the webbytubey?

            By the way, ol funruffian over there has some very nice calves and footses…hmmm…

            Gotta keep the sense of humor, eh? Unto the bitter end!

          • Anna Tree

            Webbytubey?
            Here for Marie-France Pisier.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Classy! Good choice mademoiselle…

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Webbytubey – internet. There was an older politician years ago involved in some kind of internet regulations hearings – back when the internet was just busting out – who referred to it as a series of tubes or something connecting something. Basically correct I suppose, but kind of funny putting it into some form of plumbing context. Especially funny to tech savvy youngsters at the time, you know.

            I strung it together with “webby”. Think it still sounds kind of funny, evokes the old expression, “boob tube” for the television – which the “internet” is widely replacing even as I type as the primary mode of home entertainment delivery.

            Sometimes I make up words.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            Isn’t that when Al Gore invented the Internet?

          • LeGrandDerangement

            Quelle femme!

          • LACounty

            “Wow, I didn’t get this attention LOL”
            That’s because you not trying to draw attention with your sexuality or pic. Not saying she is either, but it’s obvious the way guys are, that they are drawn to that kind of stuff. I don’t think it helps conversation here. I appreciate what people are saying and doing. Not what they look like. There are plenty of extraordinary looking men and women out there that are doing us harm. So nobody here gets bonus points from me for “looks”. It’s what you’re saying.

          • Anna Tree

            I agree with you: true, I am not trying to draw attention (the pic of the French actress was a joke). And many other Amreners are not even introducing themselves as women: they have genderless names and avatars. I am surprised to learn they are when the subject arises in one post. And I already forgot who they are actually: BECAUSE as you said, it doesn’t matter. We are here for the message.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Hi Anna!

            “Wow, I didn’t get this attention LOL”

            It isn’t all positive attention… I didn’t hope for “attention”

            “What is TOO by the way?”

            It stands for “The Occidental Observer” (google it). After that I had read prof. Kevin Macdonald’s book “Culture of Critique”, I googled him and found that website. I had found it once before when I googled prof. Helmuth Nyborg, but I forgot to save the page. Anyways, through TOO I found AmRen recently and read the comments for some time.

            “I assume that Heidi is just so young, blond and beautiful, a white woman, a good wife and so proud…”

            Anna, I assume that you and I have a lot in common. I am less experienced than the other people around here for sure. I just say what I know, and I hope to contribute something. That is also why I came on this site in the first place. I pondered for a long time before I joined, it is a challenge for me to be here (and I like writing alot). I am enthusiastic about the whole thing, so that helps me to not think of my shyness which sometimes inhibits me to think clearly in real life conversations (internet is really a huge help for shy people, god bless internet). There are not too many commenters here, so it is not so scary and you can expect what they are going to say. But yea, I am not perfect. We all have our flaws 😉

            So, all I can say is “thanks”!

          • Anna Tree

            Yes, you got bad attention.
            I can understand why, this is not my first site where anonymity is a must and agitators/spies/enemies try to get in, so I get Dr. Mobias and Mergatroyd.

            Thanks to let me know about TOO.

          • Mergatroyd

            Don’t be gullible. This is one of Whites’ fatal flaws, IMO, and how infiltrators from the ADL were able to pass themselves off as Nazi commanders (Skokie situation) or talk show host Hal Turner, “just one of us,” before he was outted as an FBI informant.

            Dont’ fall for it. They’ll use what they think are typical White names names like “Heidi,” I’ve also seen “Todd Campbell,” and “Chad,” to “fake us out” and gain your trust. They understand White psychology.

            TOO = The Occidental Observer.

            By the time KMac (TOO’s owner) shut down commentary for good, the threads were completely out of control with posters shouting at each other, swearing, calling names. It had gotten so bad that the topic at hand was completely forgotten. I’m sure the troll was laughing his *** off because the trap he’d laid went off so perfectly. TOO had the best posters and comments on the web, I think.

            Pity if that were to happen here too.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Sure. Thanks, but I have my methodology.

            Nothing will shut this site down short od the end of the world or Eric Holder bringing the full weight of the “justice system down on us.
            Perhaps it’s time I started boning up on my libtardese and hopping on some of our enemies sites. I certainly know how to quack their duckspeak, just find it so oppressively soul crushing…

          • Mergatroyd

            “Nothing will shut this site down short of the end of the world”

            Kevin MacDonald said the exact same thing. His site is still up and running but it is no longer interactive, which greatly detracts from its value, I think. How are we ever supposed to connect or know there are others out there who think just like us? Only Whites are not allowed to form groups to protect their civil rights, the Internet is about all we have to speak openly and freely and converse with others who are like-minded.

            Look at what has happened to American Renaissance in the past: conferences shut down due to threats to employees of the hotels Jared had booked. Justice was only served years later and when charges were filed by a Native American.

            Good luck on those lefty sites. I’ve traveled with Bob Whitaker’s group in that territory and it damn near killed me. Whitaker’s group are some of the smartest, sharpest people with the best, most succinct pro-White arguments. Anti-Whites are ferociously brainwashed, impervious to facts and logic and cold blooded. They think the only good White is a dead White.
            They’ll call for a mod to take down our posts and leave theirs up, but increasingly, like on Tim Wise’s site, no comments are allowed.
            Worse, they’ll threaten to find our IPs and tell our employers. At least one I know of who posted on anti-White sites started receiving regular threatening calls from the SPLC, as did Whitaker and the moderator at Whitaker’s site. It’s dangerous territory, not for the faint of heart.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Jared should post articles on the legality of the behavior you speak of. When some hater group like the SPLC harasses you, what is your recourse? Can you legally bug your phone? Etc.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Thanks bro. You are my brother and I am yours. If it’s all for naught, at least we tried.
            Until it’s over I’ll fight however I can. Don’t worry, not going all ABB here, but sooner or later they’re going to push once too often and someone’s going to start something.
            If they ruin this site it’s the beginning of the end. For good or bad. Until then I’m standing. Southerner. Sucker for lost causes, you know?
            But buck up. Dark days await us all, no matter what the specifics. No cowards enter Valhalla, though bloodshed’s not he only way to get there.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            At the risk of double posting – more later on this – let me say that you and are brothers and if we go down so be it. I will choose to fight on however I can.
            Not going all ABB here, but sooner or later someone will and I don’t know how that will play out.
            Valhalla welcomes no cowards but spilt blood is not he only indicator of courage. Soldier on.
            PS
            Either discus has been buggy for days now or we are currently under attack or my compy is compromised. I’ll run some scans and contact my compy peeps, but I’m experiencing serious lag in posts, making corrections, posts disappearing. Seems to be getting worse and happens at multiple wireless access points.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Well I just lost two posts in reply. Trying to edit your posts makes it go away and sometimes it returns much later.
            I’ll respond in more detail, but wondering if we are under attack right now. I’ll run some checks and talk to my “pooter peeps” who I pay to help me secure my system, but I’ve noticed this on multiple wireless networks for several days.

          • Anna Tree

            Thanks Mergatroyd (and Dr. Mobias) for your warnings. Some 8-9 years of commenting on the internet and I never got personal with anyone, friendly yes but I don’t like and never speak about personal things. I am here to express my opinions and learn. I don’t like sites like Facebook or chatting anyway…

            I do hope what happened in TOO will never happened here! My philosophy is not to get into such discussions. I also understand that sometimes people say things they regret or that bad days happen.
            One week or so ago, somebody in Amren, I think a respectable contributor, was angry at me, I still don’t know why. I just stayed correct with him and left…

            Now what you are saying is different if I understand, it was about agitators/trolls or people disagreeing about something and becoming unpolite to the point of destroying a site. Such a pity… I hope the moderators here are fast enough to deal with a matter early, and never would think about shutting the comments. I learn as much from the articles than from the comments, and I would say many readers think so too.

          • Mergatroyd

            It wasn’t even impolite, that is nothing and happens all the time. One of the good or bad things about the Internet is one can pretend to be whomever one wants This is vastly different. These are anti-White, “anti-racist” agitators whose goal it is to shut down pro-White sites and threaten regular posters.

            I’ve only known one other site that’s been able to spot these creeps quickly and eliminate them and that is Lasha Darkmoon’s site. I suspect they’ve had experience with these kinds of insidious trolls in the past.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I have been making brief, welcoming comments to all those people you find suspicious. That makes good sense to be brief and cordial. We are on the same page.
            But, there’s always a chance they are genuine. Split the difference so, either way, no harm/no foul. Maybe Heidi is a fraud. She can’t seem to conjure up a single source of her conservative inspirations. That is troubling. Somebody weaned on Cultural Marxist Pablum certainly would have trouble speaking of early American inspirations. I get it.
            But, you can also educate as you monitor. Just watch how you talk, be careful and make them realize–as long as they are hanging around–THEY are the ones being educated, not the reverse. make the frauds realize that they are fighting for the wrong side; that they are not Leftist agents–but ‘useful idiots’.

          • Anna Tree

            “It wasn’t even impolite” Maybe we are not talking about the same thing… I was always told that the word c–t for the private of a woman is very impolite when it’s the way one addresses a woman.

            Yes it bothered me, I didn’t know why he was so angry at me, but then last night I had maybe an epiphany and wrote a post about this (almost at the end of this page, like 3 posts up the end): maybe I intervene in the middle of an already tensed exchange but maybe more importantly: “I do think some Amrener men have lost trust with white women. I don’t blame them. That’s why I am glad I didn’t answer further that gentleman with the cursing last week […]”

            Now regarding your three clues, are you saying that every young new member with a white name is a suspect? That’s unfair, we do want members choosing white names, and we do want young and new members. I don’t know yet if Heidi is for real, I stay civil and on guard with her. Like with everybody else.

            Because I am curious and just because she is so open, there is one thing that is intriguing me (all the rest I explain it with her young age): she listed many book and authors that she read, okay, but never when and what was the trigger that made her look for them… It must have been a big deal to go on-line and buy all those books, how she knew the authors names? What was the event that made her found TOO or Amren etc. How all began. To say there were too many non-whites around her doesn’t sounds enough to me at her age, as she said she was a liberal because of her parents, so all the non-whites should have feel normal to her. I think. I had a trigger for coming to Amren (and before for going to that ex-muslim site).

            But why nit-picking only with her. More than a year reading Amren and I never read such a thread and suspicions (although I had my shares of such threads at the ex-muslims site, so I can get this as normal and healthy).

          • Dr. Möbias

            That is not what Mergatroyd said at all, it’s when all three or more are used in combination THAT is the trigger. Look for this combination -obvious White name, brand new poster, claims to be young (male or female), 10-22, overly enthusiastic to have finally “found” a White site, asks a lot of questions, uses flattery.
            It’s the combination of those red flags that gives them away. Every time.
            Mergatroyd and I travel in the same circles with Whitaker and have had a lot of hard experience with incredibly nasty anti-Whites. Being called a c**** is part of the pro-White fight and that is nothing compared to what we’ve seen. Threats of exposure to your boss or employer through gathering your IP are much more serious, this is what we’ve had to put up with.

            You want to be a pro-White? Toughen up your hide and learn to attack back. Also get yourself behind a VPN or Tor (you can google it) and don’t go online without it.

            Look, if I didn’t give a s**** about you or anyone else on this site I wouldn’t bother posting this information. We Whites are losing ground, a lot of it. I have kids and grandkids and am sick of the increasingly anti-White world that they are going to inherit. Our enemies are ruthless and wish to genocide us, women, babies, children and elderly. Look at South Africa for a preview of what is in store for ALL Whites in ALL White homelands.

            It’s fight or die and this is the beginning.

          • Anna Tree

            Oops I didn’t see your answer to me, sorry of my late response.

            That word c— was thrown at me by a white racialist on this site, not
            by a non-white or anti-white. But I really got over it now. Indeed one
            has to get a tougher skin in internet anonymous conversations. And anyway,
            there are not enough white racialists to not be united.

            I maybe be wrong (English is not my mother tongue) but I do think I didn’t misread Mergatroyd nor do I misread you now. This is what I said “Now regarding your three clues, are you saying that every young new member with a white name is a suspect?” and you are saying ” Look for this combination -obvious White name, brand new poster, claims
            to be young (male or female), 10-22,”. Seems the same to me. The change is that now you are adding “overly enthusiastic to have
            finally “found” a White site, asks a lot of questions, uses flattery.” and those two additions could really ring a bell, you are right. So thank you to point to this combination, it is always good to be reminded, I am always prudent, thanks.

          • Garrett Brown

            I am sure you are beautiful Anna. Well stated.

          • LACounty

            Rename yourself, “BeautifulWhiteGoddess”, and post a pic of a pretty face and your thumbs up will increase dramatically. 🙂

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yeah, there is a certain unreal perfection to it is there not? Meh… The internet.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “We ARE being watched, you know?”

            I know. It doesn’t really change anything about what I say, and seriously, it doesn’t bother me if you watch me too. One or two more does not matter. For the rest I don’t know really what to say. Thanks anyways for pointing out something. But one question does come to mind, how dangerous is it really to be on this site? Although we are being watched as you say, we are presumably not the first targets if anything happened to the owner of this site. I know that soon in Europe a law might be passed that forbids the citizens of the EU to read anything from White ethnonationalist sites, and although I am not really a coward, such a law will make me doubt about what I should do… I don’t know, I need to know examples of what happened to people who did in order to know how serious the libtard vs. ethnonationalist legal warfare is becoming. I still doubt that anything will ever happen, unless there is a even more significant increase in European ethnonationalism.

          • Brian

            I know that soon in Europe a law might be passed that forbids the
            citizens of the EU to read anything from White ethnonationalist sites
            ===
            Use a VPN at least. Won’t help much if the powers that be want to hassle you, but it will get around the national internet content filters.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “Use a VPN at least.”

            Then, may I ask what a VPN is? (I hope this question doesn’t sound really dumb… ;P )

            “Won’t help much if the powers that be want to hassle you, but it will get around the national internet content filters.”

            You’re right. Do you think that I can manage to stay “anonymous”? (My first name and picture won’t help the authorities to find me, really, I look very random and my first name is common, but if I said my last name… then I guess I would be asking for it)

          • Mergatroyd

            You have no idea how good these trolls are. Look: The troll puts up a few posts and suddenly you’re pouring out your heart and dreams to someone you don’t even know? That’s a huge red flag.

            I’m trying to help you here, I’m on your side because I’ve read your posts for quite a while now, and I’m trying to help American Renaissance so it doesn’t go the way of The Occidental Observer.

          • LACounty

            Why would anyone give that a thumbs down?

          • Katherine McChesney

            I understood her perfectly.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Oh, Doc is just a little bit skeptical. That’s what Doc’s do.

          • Mergatroyd

            Hell yeah, I’m skeptical. It comes from a lot of hard experience and getting burned, friend.

            You can take what I’ve written at face value or toss it aside if you’d like. I’m not a “told you so” type of person. But if I’ve clued in even one person, I’ve done my job.

            Reread LeGrandDelusionment’s posts again to find out what happens when one get sucked into these scams.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I will. My point has always been, who cares? If you’re a straight- shooter and speak accurately and factually–who cares? I have nothing to hide and some dumb@$$ leftist shill isn’t going to change that. I will re-read some of Legrand’s stuff. This Luntz link is the hottest AmRen link I’ve ever seen.

          • Mergatroyd

            Sure, because these trolls have been trained to use your psychology against you.

            Be careful and don’t let your guard down. Go back and read LeGrandDerangement’s posts to see how HE got sucked in by the same kind of troll.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            I read his posts and only became interested when he said he had lived in Northern WI and mentioned demographics. I contributed, at most, two responses, about the racial dynamics up here, nothing personal. I was just disgusted when he popped out and said he was trolling.

          • Anna Tree

            Ouch! I write also with errors. But any French speakers can see that I write English like French LOL We just need a German Amrener to check her posts and see if the mistakes are German influenced or not… That wouldn’t mean so much if it is, but if it isn’t then…

            I don’t remember my German enough, but in French we do say “I finished my bac (baccalaureat) early.”

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Me: “Honourful and not dishonourful”

            Anna Tree: “We just need a German Amrener to check her posts and see if the mistakes are German influenced or not…”

            In German we have a word “ehrenvoll”, literally “honour-ful”. I thought that the German “ehrenvoll” is the closest to the English way of expressing this concept, so I thought that the word “honourful” exists in the English language, but I know better now. “Honorable and not dishonorable” can be translated to German as “würdig und nicht unwürdig”, so I could have chosen to say “worthy and not unworthy” in English. You can verify with another German AmRener.

          • Anna Tree

            I didn’t know honourful is not English until it was pointed out by Dr. Mobias and spelling check. Worst I would have written a Canadian honorful LOL
            Needless to say, your English is better than mine. I think Germans, as non-native English speakers, have the best English after French Canadians.

            I was telling Dr. Mobias and Mergatroyd to verify. Personally, I don’t care that enemies and such come here, as long as they behave and that it doesn’t endanger the existence of the site and its comments. Actually I also believe like NeanderthalDNA that visiting Amren CAN enlighten them!

            I posted in an islamocritic website in the past. Muslims and islam lovers (often leftists/multiculturalists etc of course) often visit, sometimes passing as ex-muslims. It can be entertaining to unmask them for some members, but for me, the goal was to share the truth as I see it (expressing my opinions), to exchange ideas (learn new information). Eventually to condition them out of the brainwashing of islam. So I don’t care if they were imposters/moles or not, I was commenting or debating to them, for them and for the readers, persuading some to facts they didn’t know or didn’t want to think about before that conversation.

            I think racialism is also to brainwash/condition/persuade/influence out of the mainstream liberal pro-diversity brainwashing. I think education is brainwashing: it is repetition of things, correct things when Truth/science is on your side OR of incorrect things too, sadly (in the past and nowadays.) So commenting and debating for the lurkers, undecided or moles, is my goal here too. To open the eyes to as much people I can. Because it’s not about me but about the others: I need more others for the (best) future of my children, race and civilization.

            To be left quiet as of today situation, is not enough or not good, eventually like Garrett Brown (and others) said, our movement needs to grow. When we have a country, then yes, to be left alone. Until then, we need to talk to everybody, we as in team but also as in a racialist diverse community, who includes all kind of opinion, from Mergatroyd, Spartacus, Puggg, LeGrandDerangement, TeutonicKnight67, M, WR_the_realist, IstVanIN, FaK_Zakaix, Max Krakah, Mblanc46, Guest, AndrewInterrupted, Luca, Truth Seeker, A SpeechFreeZone, Jack Burton, ms_anthro, Svigor, Alexandra1973, Katherine McChesney, PessachPatriot…
            and yes from JohnEngelman and A MultiRacial Individual …
            and yes from Edruezzi …
            and yes from LovelyNordicHeidi…
            etc etc etc

          • LeGrandDerangement

            Est-ce que vous etes francaise?

          • Anna Tree

            Est-ce que vous etes Quebecois?
            LOL Let’s say francophone.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            J’habite dans le Wisconsin du nord, mais ma famille etait quebecois de souche d’origine. Vous connaissez le site Federation des Quebecois de Souche? C’est bon.

          • Garrett Brown

            I read it just fine. I’ve been reading your criticisms of Heidi and being negative towards other members welcoming her and there’s no logical reason for it. Are you jealous? Frustrated because of your past relationships with women? Paranoid? None of it is warranted no matter the reason.

            Who are you by the way? To criticize someone so much you surely must be an avid follower and contributor to this site. I’ve never seen you post.

            With people like you around we will never grow to the numbers that are necessary to support the financial and moral support needs we require to start making ground.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I appreciate your sense of chivalry and share it, but Mobius makes some valid points. If lovelyheidi is for real and as passionate as she claims she’ll stick around and all will be well.

            The purpose of the agitprop, however, is to sow discord, and nothing like a honeytrap to do that.

            It does look like the perfect bomb, I’ll admit. Lovely 23 year old blonde of German extraction all enthusiastic about busting out fine young Aryans…happily married…full of youth and fire…
            Next thing you know the national socialist jewaphobes are arguing with the novo-fascists while the silent majority who just want things like they were in the 50’s chime in and…

            POOF! Grumbling and bickering in the phalanx.

            As an aside – I REALLY try to avoid the Hitler thing and confrontations with the National Socialists here, genuinely like many if not most despite our ideological differences. Therefore I try to minimize conversations regarding this.

            On the other hand the national socialists sometimes seem to think that this is their website, in terms of IDEOLOGY. It’s not. It’s their website because they are White, and as members of our folk, deserve to be heard and to contribute to the discussion as much as anyone else who posts here legitimately.

            Anyhoos, I hope lovely Heidi is for real for any number of reasons but will not be shocked, feel betrayed, nor cry into my belly button if not.

            Nature of the game…

          • Garrett Brown

            She has done nothing to disprove she isn’t “real”, therefore there should not be all of this criticism and negativity towards her.

          • Mergatroyd

            Says someone who has no idea what he’s talking about.

            “She” puts up a few posts and you fall for it hook, line and sinker.

            You are even more gullible than I thought. I’ve done the best I can and I can’t reach everyone. At least the posters on Alternative Right got the message and the troll outted herself finally.

            Good luck. You’ve been warned. No further posts to you, friend.

          • Garrett Brown

            Do you even look at who you reply to? You plus one my post and say you appreciate it then write something childish like this.

            You’re not the sharpest crayon in the box, eh?

          • Anna Tree

            Please guys don’t, or indeed fake or not, Heidi did stir us up…

            White unity above all !

            (hope I am not doing a mistake again like last week 🙁
            delete your last sentence my friend…

          • Garrett Brown

            The only people she “stirred” up were the ignorant and paranoid.

            Heidi contributed to this thread and handled the situation very well. I will continue to defend her because she has done nothing to indicate she is a troll. Just as I would defend you or any other woman being attacked simply because they are women posting on this site.

          • LACounty

            He like others are simply watching out for our members. Don’t be a sucker.
            “Are you jealous? Frustrated because of your past relationships? Paranoid?”
            That’s not giving much respect to members that err on the side of caution. Worst case is they’re watching out for you. Relax.

          • Garrett Brown

            Critiquing grammar has nothing to do with watching out for members lol.

          • Mergatroyd

            Yes, it does because it’s another red flag, like the 10 year old who wrote sophisticated, educated, adult-like comments and everyone was falling all over himself to help this little poor soul and told me I didn’t know what I was talking about.

          • Mergatroyd

            He’s a fool and I’m done with him. Thanks for listening, I appreciate it. I’m trying to help you guys, that’s all. You can take my advice or not, I’m writing from a lot of hard experience, especially after travelling with Bob Whitaker’s group.

            Get yourself behind a VPN, that is great advice too. Use the Tor if possible and don’t post without it.

          • Mergatroyd

            Don’t be such a fool. You obviously haven’t had experiences with this type of insidious troll before.

            Go ahead and pour your heart out to a brand new poster, if you’d like, give her your personal information like the posters did at Alternative Right. She’s just a young person who needs welcoming, right?

            All yours, brother. And good luck, you’re going to need it.

          • Garrett Brown

            “Don’t be such a fool”

            The fool would be one that assumes a woman that post on Amren is a troll just because she’s a woman.

          • Dr. Möbias

            What are you some kind of a pseudo psychologist here to analyze commenters, LOL? You’ve read every comment by every poster going back to the very beginning, have you? What do you think this is a singles dating site?

            Posters like you are what causes forums like this lose posters to shut down comments. Face it, dude, you are costing this site WAY too much bandwidth, dial it down, especially your emotions.

            You obviously didn’t understand a single word I wrote. Go back and reread my posts and maybe then you’ll get it.

          • Garrett Brown

            Aw, is someone upset that nobody knows who he is? I’m sorry I hurt your feelings. If you care about popularity that much you should try Facebook.

          • Who Me?

            Is this debate STILL going on? I remember years ago when I was a stay-at-home mother, I would have to go somewhere where stating my job was required. Some snotty office female would look down her nose at me and say in a sarcastic, pseudo-surprised tone, “Oh, you don’t work?” Well, I’d like to have seen one of those lazy females follow me around for about two of my normal days without dropping dead! Now, I did go back to paying work after the children were in school full time, so I have plenty of comparison, and I can tell you that being a stay-at-home mother is the hardest job any person will ever do, and it’s unpaid labor to boot. Add to that it’s one of the most important jobs in the world if done properly. Creating a safe, loving home for your family and nurturing your children through their most formative years is just NOT something you can trust to some paid babysitter.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      He apparently is clueless to the race thing.

      “He has changed his principal residence from Northern Virginia to a condo overlooking the Las Vegas Strip, and he’s contemplating a sale of his company, Luntz Global LLC, the details of which he is not at liberty to discuss. Las Vegas, he says, represents “my chance to be intellectually challenged again” by a place that is “the closest thing to a melting pot America has to offer.”

      • Oil Can Harry

        Like MackO said, this is one of the few times I agree with the pompous, overbearing Frank Dunce.

        As to him being “clueless to the race thing” you’re probably right; it’s just hard to imagine a pollster not noticing all those minorities chanting “gibsmedat” and failing to connect the growing entitlement mentality with the browning of America.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          Yeah…in that he seems bright I was being half sarcastic. I mean…he’s gotta know, right?
          Maybe he’s really having a mental breakdown.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            He knows, but he’s just too scared to say it. Who in their right mind wouldn’t really know anything about it?

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I think you are correct LovelyNordicHeidi. He seems too bright to not have noticed and I think his profound angst and impending psychological collapse are a direct result of his understanding of that which he can never say.

            I understand EXACTLY how that works…

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Just call me Heidi 😛

            It is really sad how “intellectuals” are stuck in some kind of world view that preaches “tolerance” and smashes everything that it does not like in the name of fighting intolerance. This world view is constructed in such a way that everyone feels the need to suppress his neighbours in order to stay conform with the status quo of this world view. It holds back our scientific discourse, and if we want our society to develop, we need to get rid of the dogmas of this world view, just like we did in the transition period that occurred in between the Middle Ages and the Post-Renaissance ages. We need serious change.

          • bilderbuster

            He should sell his business & say it. Be called a racist & then say it again. It won’t hurt as much the second time.
            He can never say it only because he’s not man enough to admit he was wrong hence the breakdown.

          • BonusGift

            Did anyone not catch the part about being “the outsider, the schlub”? I’d wager a few bucks he’s a tribe member/Eskimo and is simply part of the genocide YT team. He’s a typical tribe member selling YT’s genocide and it may just be occurring to him, but he can’t admit it and certainly not to himself let alone others, that what he has devoted his whole existence to is to destroy the country. So little child that he is he retreats to his Vegas Strip condo and enjoys the fruits of the “melting pot”.

          • bilderbuster

            He’s in denial because he still clings to the “melting pot” fantasy & believes our differences are only ideological.
            The silly idea that the American dream works for everyone of all races blah, blah, blah even though the Founding Fathers knew better & warned us.
            He probably is having a mental breakdown because deep inside he has seen the truth & it’s painful to admit that everything you worked for & believed in isn’t true.
            Mind numbing Vegas is the only logical place for him to go as his dreams are being dashed before his very eyes

          • NeanderthalDNA

            As pointed out elsewhere, looks like he’s going all Howard Hughes, which to me suggests, yes, he does understand and the weight of it has finally snapped his sanity.

            At least he’ll have jars of his own urine and toenails to keep him company I suppose.

          • bilderbuster

            Howie should have holed up in South Africa & financed George Wallace.
            We’d all be better off & he could have died a happy man.

        • Brian

          Luntz is annoying, sure. He’s not a total idiot though. Reading between the lines, he senses something is deeply wrong, beyond normal right/left issues. Something has shifted permanently. Maybe he won’t or can’t admit some of the root causes. You know how you have that uneasy feeling when someone is coming up behind you? I think that’s where he is. But he may or may not ever get around to taking the Red Pill. I don’t know if he’s capable, or if so, whether he would ever admit the underlying reasons we talk about here.

          • Dr. Möbias

            He has a mansion in LA so obviously he’s toeing some kind of line.
            He knows reporting what people are really thinking and saying would be career ending. Remember he works for the alphabet networks, etc. He doesn’t want to give up his fame and fortune.

          • bilderbuster

            Nope! He’s pulling a Howard Hughes instead.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Toenails and urine!

          • If my house burned down, I have a funny white thing called “insurance”.

          • Brian

            Is that like a FEMA trailer, or part of the white debbil’s juju?

          • It is a policy for which I actually have to pay. When I make a replacement part for someone’s discontinued gadget, I get paid and then I send some money to the insurance company. I pay them to accept the financial risk of a fire-related mishap here, so yes, that’s some of the white racist debbil’s juju.

          • Mergatroyd

            Good luck getting a pay out.

          • My next-door neighbor managed to flood part of her townhome and got paid. The hose leading into her washing machine ruptured and broke. These are under pressure any time the appliance is not actually filling, and she used the cheap variety of hose with scanty nylon reinforcement. I used the more expensive variety covered outside with tightly-woven stainless steel. The point is that having insurance – within reasonable limits – is better than not having it.

      • Translation: He’s trying to worm his way into Sheldon Adelson’s wallet. Out with the old hustle, in with the new hustle.

        • BonusGift

          He is related to Adelson, no need to worm his way in. They probably attend the same temple.

      • Dr. Möbias

        He’s not clueless. He’s paid well to focus on some issues and ignore others including race.

  • Not so agonizing. There is an easy solution.

    Less talk about: Individualism, libertarianism.

    More talk about: Affordable family formation (for whites), economic nationalism (rejecting free trade), patriotic immigration reform (real border and immigration control), combating the black undertow.

    And then following through.

    • Max Krakah

      let’s talk about: forget the present government, parties, form a white ethnostate.

      • mikebowen55

        Agreed. This vile government doesn’t represent me or anyone else I know. I don’t want to hear any longer about trying to “reform” it, I just want it gone.

        • Brian

          I used to pride myself on never having missed an election of any kind since 18, not even the piddly runoff for dogcatcher. Now, I don’t bother. I don’t recognize the moral legitimacy of the system anymore. The one individual in whom I have complete trust is Samuel Colt.

          • I always vote, because even though I loathe what is happening on the national level, there’s always some state official or judge I can’t stand, or a tax initiative I’d like to see go down in flames. There were six years I couldn’t vote, three because I was locked up and three right after because I was on federal probation, and it feels good to be able to do it again.

          • Brian

            I understand that motive, and the local elections are more important. I think the system is going down, and why should I try to steer it to prop it up longer? If the SHTF I would prefer it go ahead and be done with it before I’m in a nursing home. Perhaps I’ll reconsider though.

      • Believe me, I’m focused on an ethnostate.

        I just outlined the ideological features of an ethnostate.

        • Max Krakah

          Where?

          • Triarius

            Midwest. The south too black, southwest too mexican, northwest too antifa, northeast too libtard. Some midwest is too libtard too, so I wouldn’t include Minnesota, etc. The mountain west area is viable too, as long as we can get rid of the recent wave of Californian liberals migrating there like the locusts they are.

          • Sick of it

            The Midwest is filled to overflowing with liberals. Would it not make more sense to create an ethnostate where people would actually support it?

          • Triarius

            I find people from suburban Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Western PA very likeable and conservative, or at least a race realist.

            Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa on the other hand…

            I have not had enough exerience with people from Nebraska or Missouri, and Illinois is a mixed bag. But the Rockies and Appalachia are great places as well, again, excluding the Californians in the Rockies.

          • Nevsky

            I think the Rockies and the Appalachians are the only two regions that are viable locations, with the upper Northeast being a possible third option, but much less likely.

            Most of the Midwest is way too liberal, and not very defensive anyway.

          • mike5586

            The north makes plenty of sense, and it’s not like the liberals are capable of stopping anyone from moving there. Hah.

          • Tom B.

            I say stick with the South—a very large group of similar thinking people–agriculture, oil, seaports, more agreeable weather. Only problem is the darkie—he would just have to be convinced that it would be in his best interest to move to New England, where he will be loved and cherished and provided all the welfare and white girls he can stand!!

          • LeGrandDerangement

            “…all the white girls he can stand!!” That’s creepy.

          • Triarius

            Places like Louisiana and Mississippi are 40% black. There are better options.

          • Tom B.

            There are no perfect choices- I really love Montana and Idaho, but they are landlocked. Washington and Oregon are nice but seriously liberal. No matter where you go the black will eventually follow. I still think blacks will have to be dealt with no matter what, but to me its the liberal whites that are the real problem. This a huge portion of the population and seem hell-bent on supporting all minorities and to destroying all conservative race realists. Secession is the only hope I can visualize and if the liberals want to push us into another civil war we may not have any other option. It is depressing, I have met so many liberals who seem intelligent on one hand, but completely idiotic when it comes to race. They baffle me and I don’t think either side is going to give in on their way of thinking.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yeah, how did Oregon and Washington get so bad? Was it Californication? Left Coast Disease?

      • newscomments70

        The challenge is, most of the white conservatives who would support this live in diversity enriched states. Mostly white states are liberal, such as Washington, Oregon, Vermont, Iowa, etc.

        • Max Krakah

          Oh well then, it’s impossible, then let’s just forget about it and lay down and die then, I see. It’s too hard, there are so many reasons why we will just keep losing and losing until the last one of us is killed off.

          • Extropico

            Only 1/3 of Americans supported Revolution against the King of England. Our centuries-long history was determined by a minority who ultimately decided to risk their lives, fortune and sacred honor for what they believed in.

          • Max Krakah

            what is two thirds? answer- 666. IT is when two thirds become apathetic or the enemy that evil happens.

          • newscomments70

            Did I say I wanted to give up? Where does it say I wanted to give up? You’re assuming too much. To be more specific, I want the entire country back, manifest destiny. i respect the ethnostate separatists, but I believe it is the wrong approach. If I’m not mistaken, you want to make the pacific northwest the ethnostate. That area is full of braindead liberals…legalized marijuana, democratic majority, gay marriage, etc. The majority of whites there voted for Obama, I don’t see how you could convince them otherwise. Whites who live near large numbers of blacks are much easier to convince (i.e. the South). Even California could have more race realist whites than the Pacific Northwest. Just because I disagree with you doesn’t mean I’m a defeatist.

          • Max Krakah

            Did I say I wanted just the Pacific Northwest? Where does it say I wanted just the Pacific Northwest? I want everything except maybe souther CA and GA, we can ship them all to those places but we have to start SOMEWHERE!

          • newscomments70

            Yes, we have to start somewhere. It needs to start at an epicenter and spread out. Eventually, we will take back everything. As a punishment for raping and murdering our children, we should go further and take baja California as ‘reparations:.

          • Max Krakah

            well, it’s easy to sit at one’s computer and fantasize. Let’s be realistic about one thing though, unless we have a greater population growth of whites, we will not be taking and holding other territories.

          • newscomments70

            True, but I choose to dream big. Make it happen. What seems like the impossible can happen.

          • Max Krakah

            why Baja? I think a better options would be a merging of Canada with most of the US. We won’t be getting a bunch of mexicans that way.

          • LACounty

            Canada may have an issue with that, and from what I’ve seen, they have immigration issues themselves.
            We need to form a White state(s). Whites will need to defend those states.

          • Max Krakah

            The sad reality is that we are only going to win with a revolution. Once things get bloody, the lib areas will have no choice but to join us.

          • Max Krakah

            To make it happen, you need a plan. To increase white births, which is really one of the most important things right now, you have to start a new social movement that is antifeminist, pro traditional roles. It should be tied in with white nationalism and religion. We need a new sort of denomination, or we need to infiltrate and take over an existing one. Church’s have hierarchies so one has a social organization right there. With new methods of manufacturing, such as 3D laser metal sintering and 3D printing, a church can be a focal point of a white community, a place where resources are pooled to buy the machinery and raw materials, the computers, the CAD software, and a place for educating and training people how to operate it all. Such communities can become insular and self sufficient to a degree. They can remove themselves from the grid. With new technologies such as Cyclone Power Technologies people can even remove themselves from the dependence on oil and gas, check out their “waste heat engine”. Another new technology is the “IN-WHEEL” electric motor, which is easy to produce.
            So we need a plan, the first thing is to get organized and working together. Right now we are all isolated individuals at computer terminals. WE need to take it another step and form local, real world, networks that work to bypass much of the current roadblocks.

          • Geo1metric

            “Right now we are all isolated individuals at computer terminals. WE need to take it another step and form local, real world, networks that work to bypass much of the current roadblocks.”

            How do we do that? I agree it needs to be done, but how do we do that? Every attempt by Whites to organize into White advocacy groups have been crushed by the Mediagovernmentacademic establishment.

            How do we circumvent that massive complex?

          • Max Krakah

            start wearing certain colors on certain days so that we can find each other in public. A site like this or other sites can set what colors are to be worn when.

          • Geo1metric

            How about all White, all the time? 🙂

          • Max Krakah

            Kind of hard to keep that up and looking good, but I get what you mean.

          • Geo1metric

            I worked with a black guy in Iraq who wore all black all the time. He was actually pretty nice to work with. But that’s where I got the idea. I told him once that I was going to start wearing “all white”. He laughed.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            That reminds me too much of blue or red wearing negroes.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Max, that is a really good idea. I would support it. What about taking some kind of traditional clothing? It might be a good idea to be recognisable and not too recognisable at the same time. We just want people like us to recognise us. So we need something neutral.

          • Max Krakah

            maybe just a little pin that says “Amren”, or “VDare” or SBPDL”. If someone asks one what it means, it means they are not familiar with it so one can brush off the question or fill them in or tell them something misleading, depending on how one feels them out.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “maybe just a little pin”

            I agree with you once again. That is the most practical idea.

            I would argue for a more universal word unlike AmRen, etc. otherwise we will be divided into different tribes. We need to think about unity, not about dividing our group even more. “RS” for Race Realist or the like would perhaps already be enough, but “RS” in itself is not unique enough. AmRen is more unique, so we could also do something like RaRe. It would look like the word “Rare”, and we know what it means.

          • Brian

            How about a polar bear?

          • Geo1metric

            Excellent idea!

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            If we said that we are polar bears, we would sound like some kind of group who is trying to preserve the polar bear. So, should we be called polar bears? 😀

          • Brian

            The polar bear comes from the northlands, is white, and is fierce. Some people think a mysterious, insidious force is trying to shrink its habitat. Sound familiar?

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “Some people think a mysterious, insidious force is trying to shrink its habitat. Sound familiar?”

            Bear egalitarianism… I knew it. 😉

          • Who Me?

            I’ve been reading your posts here today. As a fellow female Amren member, Welcome, Heidi! AmRen needs more young women. I am personally past middle age, and have children older than yourself. (A “granny type” possibly?)
            I actually like the idea of a polar bear pin or something like that, but it needs to be accessible only to people who are seriously interested in our cause. Perhaps only to people who donate a certain amount to AmRen or the like. Not the best idea maybe, but we do know this site is watched by unfriendly eyes. How much harder would it be for them to portray themselves as one of us to try and personally identify us?

          • Garrett Brown

            No, I really like this. If you are a true follower and supporter of this movement surely you can set aside 25 dollars for a pendent to be identifiable to your fellow readers. That is a great idea and I would surely take part in it.

          • Anna Tree

            Neo-Sparta?
            I like the white bear idea too.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Neo-Sparta. Hmmmmm.

          • Anna Tree

            I wish to know a Neo-Sparta city soon, and then a country with that name, if not first a book with that name… A racialist fiction novel, à la Hunger Games or Twilight…

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I like RaRe, but unity–and continuty is more important.

          • Sick of it

            Men should certainly appreciate pants like our Germanic ancestors wore to the neutering devices sold to us today.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Ancient Germanic clothing would be cool, and we would have to “modernise” it a little though. I prefer male-female differences in clothing, I do not like to have exactly the same clothing as men. It just looks weird. A man wearing a skirt looks like a woman wearing jeans…

          • Brian

            Heh!

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Hahah… sorry Scotsmen! 🙂

          • I wore my kilt at my wedding.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            I didn’t mean kilts when I said skirt, but sorry again 🙂

          • AndrewInterrupted

            What is that, a Springfield?

          • Guest

            Can’t tell, but it looks like black powder so I think not. Anyone know for sure?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            The sight looks like the one on my 1873 U.S. Springfield. Granted, a few years past the CW.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Hi Heidi,

            You mentioned in one of your posts that several Balkan states are publicly becoming ‘race aware’. What are some examples?

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            I personally know some ethnonationalist Croatians and the political climate in Croatia is changing.

            http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/04-12-2013/126300-european_union_croatia-0/

          • newscomments70

            Anytime someone mentions an altercation with a non-white, I recommend AMREN to them. In comments sections of various articles, I often mention AMREN as well. I have received hundreds of thumbs up for this. I only receive a handful of thumbs down.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I was thinking Baja was a worthy site for the Euro-American Israelites. I wouldn’t mind making the occasional donation to that cause. Just don’t send our blood and money to the middle east.

          • Who Me?

            Yes, we have to start SOMEWHERE, and why not make it a place we can defend and has the resources, but rural and urban, the deep ocean ports, river shipping, high passes that can be guarded by a few and held, and enough pasture, farmlands and orchards to keep us going without letting outsiders in? Of course those of us in the Northwest wouldn’t move prematurely. But we need to already be in place, and wait for the powers that be, (Armed forces, Police state personnel, etc) to be totally disrupted nationwide, such as a total financial meltdown, no pay, etc. When the army and the police aren’t getting paid, they aren’t going to go out and hide behind the pine trees of the temperate rainforest of the Northwest to try and apprehend armed insurgents! A useful, manageable chunk has to be taken and held first. With not too many blacks, the rest of the non whites can be managed. Hispanics are not stupid. When the gravy train stops, they will take off for someplace where it is still running. I would expect the government to try to cut us off, and boycott us. With a place in the midwest or the Appalachians, this would be too easy. Landlocked will never work. The Pacific Northwest will never be landlocked, nor need it be dependent upon resources imported from the rest of the nation. I would predict that once the dam has burst, and the first steps have been taken, the majority of disgruntled but silent whites will be silent no longer. They will flock to do the same in their own part of the country.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            There has to be a ‘frostbite’ approach. Save the vital organs and let the limbs die. Then recover the dead areas later.

          • Brian

            That’s the paradox, isn’t it? The ones most likely to be awakened to the truth about Diversihooditudinality are the ones who have the most contact with it, but they’re the ones who are locally outnumbered.

        • LACounty

          The states with the highest percentages of Whites are Conservative. They know what is going on. Conservatives control those states. For now.

          • SoulInvictus

            Problem being that the “conservative” politicians in those states (myself living in one of them) are useless corporate shills like the rest. How likely would it be for any of them to do what Germany did to pull out of the Great Depression so rapidly?
            All out war on unemployment, massive public infrastructure projects, incentivizing marriage, eliminating Fed style economic policy.
            Most Republicans would decry any of the above as socialism (they’d be right except that it’s the good kind).

          • LeGrandDerangement

            Conservative “leaders” are the problem.

    • Pro_Whitey

      Amen! I would add the repeal of affirmative action, because it reduces employment opportunities for whites and minorities (not that I care about minorities, but it’s true and its provides the cover of seeming even handed). Whoever takes up those policies should win big by uniting whites and getting them out to vote. The biggest failure of Mittens, as I know you know from your previous comments, is that in key states lower and middle class whites just failed to show up at the polls. My current hope is that Jeff Sessions of Alabama realizes what you wrote is the right path, and follows it into the White House.

      • Max Krakah

        ridiculous. You will never win in the present system.

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      Just focus on starting somewhere now. Perhaps we need a poll to find out the fertility rate of race-aware people? Perhaps we need to financially support race-aware people who have larger families? Perhaps we just need to increase our fertility rate by just naming example families?

      I had my first child a year ago. It was a conscious choice, just to make sure that the genes of my people continue their legacy. Besides, I have very good and race-aware husband. It is hard to get a race-aware partner, I know how hard it is. But let’s be practical, we need more than 2 or 3 children per race-aware family. I can afford a large family, because my parents support me and my husband too. Why not start focusing more on practical things like family building, and so on? We already know that the current government is depressing, but we can start doing something by starting to improve ourselves and to become examples for other peoples. I really would like to know how many young race-aware families there are, we can make an estimation.

      I know that there are not many young couples that have as much luck as I and my husband have, they do not have enough money or do not have the opportunity to start a family at young age. I would really like to have 4 children, and it is imperative that other people become just as enthusiastic about it as I am.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Another female poster at AmRen. Something positive is happening. Finally.

        • Geo1metric

          There are a lot of female posters here, more than you imagine. You cannot tell the sex of the poster by the name necessarily.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I’ve been stopping by AmRen on&off for years. I’ve never seen so many women and this much traffic. It’s very positive.

          • Geo1metric

            Very positive indeed!! I have been pleasantly surprised here from time to time when a poster would write something like “as a female, I…”, and prior to that I had no idea that the poster was female. This has happened many times here.

            BTW, I think I have been posting on Amren since it came online or close to it. Posting names have changed. 🙂

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I posted under a few different names. No specific reasons for the different names. I became a Breitbart fan the last couple years, thus the recent moniker. He was a big loss. I read both his books.

            I didn’t post here at AmRen back in the earlier days. Just browsed. It wasn’t until I saw real toxic levels of reverse discrimination since Obama that I realized it was only getting worse, not better–and that I needed to get more involved and educated.

            Most European Americans have been too trusting and naïve–myself included. Many more European Americans have become traitors. They are the new Vichy French.

            They all got theirs in the end, if my memory serves me correctly.

          • Re Breitbart.

            It surprises me a bit that you’re a Breitbart fan, both of the now late Andrew and his media presences. That’s because you don’t seem to be way too enamored with Jews or Israel, and Breitbart himself was Jewish and the Breitbart media are pro-Israel.

            Then again, they do have some very decent coverage of the immigration issue, and they’re none too fond of the RINOs.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            How very astute of you, QD. Breitbart was also maligned for having helped the Tea Party in the early days.Yes, those are many contradictions and misconceptions I often have to explain.

            For starters, the Breitbart website was the equivalent to a Mossad coup. I stopped going there. His legacy there was completely co-opted by the neo-con Israelites.

            Same with NRO. the Mossad takeover at NRO proceeded to destroy the good name of the best conservative columnist who ever lived, Joe Sobran.

            There was a time when the Democrats could expect the Israelites to deliver 90% of their vote. But, now that the Demo-rats have lost interest in fighting Israel’s war, the Jews are jumping ship and commandeering conservative websites.

            Joe Lieberman is a good example of evidence of that shift. Joe was willing to defend Israel to the last American. The Dems booted him for his Israeli, hawkish rhetoric and policies. He then had to run as an Independent in CT.

            Also, getting back to Breitbart, Andrew was adopted by reformed Jewish parents. With respect to his biological parents, he was told that he was of Northern European blood. His features certainly bore that out. He also had an adopted Hispanic sister. But, most importantly, he admitted publicly that he was an agnostic.

            Breitbart, like most people, treaded carefully around the Khazarians.

          • Geo1metric

            Joe Sobran was a hero of mine. I thoroughly enjoyed his book about Shakespeare, ALIAS SHAKESPEARE, which is not political.

            Buckley ran Joe off from NR years ago.

            It is difficult, if not impossible to have an influential public life in today’s America and say, do, or write anything which can even be construed as anti-Israel or anti-Jewish.

            The neo-conservatives began infiltrating the republican party as early as the mid-70’s and assured that the pro-Israel, pro-war-for-Israel stance would continue apace.

            America should not allow dual citizenship, and at the very least should not allow dual citizens to hold public office.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Buckley was forced to run Sobran off. Supposedly, the two reconciled. Other reports say the two remained friends throughout.

            My favorite Joe Sobran stuff was his writings about “The Hive”. It very much describes the Orwellian experience I had at a federal contractor recently.

          • Geo1metric

            Yes! The hive was excellent stuff. I miss Sobran almost as much as I miss Sam Francis.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I really haven’t spent any time over there at the CCC. I’ve always been a pariah to the right because I’m not overly religious. That’s why Breitbart appeals to me. We need to move fiscal conservatives into an Independent category, I think.

          • Geo1metric

            Nor am I overy religious, nor have I been to the CCC weibsite.. I thoroughly enjoyed Friancis writing in the Washington Times and his books.

          • Sometimes friendship and a professional relationship get in the way of each other. I also completely understand that politics and friendship don’t always mix. It seems likely to me that they did remain friends.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yeah, Buckley bowed to political correctness.

          • I still read Breitbart. I ignore all the I-country cheerleading. But even if I couldn’t, their serial coverage of the day by day blow by blow scorecard of the immigration question makes it worth it.

            I’ll take pro-Israel and immigration restrictionist over anti-Israel and open borders any day.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yes, the choices are always compromises.

            It wasn’t meant to be that way.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yeah, I saw her pic and handle and was at first very suspicious. But unless she’s quite the chameleon I’m going with “real”. Very nice.

            Although not QUITE as manly as Nicolai Valuev shaving with a hand axe, I am indeed at least 99% of what I claim.

            Hey, it IS the internet, OK? LOL!

          • Garrett Brown

            We lift weights, eat meat, watch Conan, ugh ugh!

          • NeanderthalDNA

            OK, I DO shave with a handaxe…

          • Garrett Brown

            What a badass.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            But you can see it from linguistic differences. ;-D You guys talk and reason in a different way than I do.

          • Not so much from the women of AR. Unless they make it obvious from either their screen name or say so in their comments, most women here are easily mistaken for men, rarely are men mistaken as women.

            My theory is that a woman who immerses herself in such “taboo” politics and matters of public affairs as these tends to think and speak and write stereotypically like a man.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “My theory is that a woman who immerses herself in such “taboo” politics and matters of public affairs as these tends to think and speak and write stereotypically like a man.”

            Interesting theory. It must be hard for them to repress their female way of thinking, etc., because when you write longer comments, you are bound to give away unintended clues. Maybe they are not girly-girls (I do not intend to offend anyone with this, I am just writing down a few thoughts to solve a problem that interests me). It is just super-hard to mimic men correctly unless you do it whole days… It would certainly be tactical to act like a man to stay unnoticed, but I find it hard to concentrate when I need to watch every syllable for female talk and cannot be myself and am distracted from the things that I want to say.

          • LACounty

            Yeah. And with your pic and name, guys have already hit on you. Not suggesting that you have been promoting your sexuality. In a way it’s a good thing not always putting one’s sex out there, as it can take away from discussion.
            As Geo1metric stated, ” There are a lot of female posters here…you cannot tell the sex of the poster by name…” And because of the way some guys are, that is a plus. Eventually one of them will refer to their “husband”, and that’s how we know.
            You remove any sexual ID from your name/pic, and you won’t get as many responses. But you already know that. Anyway, Welcome. Feels good to see additional members here.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “You remove any sexual ID from your name/pic, and you won’t get as many responses.”

            Do not discourage female race realists. I know that you guys are skeptical, but make sure that more White folks will join you. Females are an addition to the race realist community, and I do not really need to defend that argument, because you know that it is important to have as many Whites as possible on your side.

            “And with your pic and name, guys have already hit on you.”

            I do not appreciate guys “hitting on me”. Being nice is fine, but anyone should know how to keep his distance, because I am happily married.

            Thank you for welcoming me.

          • LACounty

            I’m trying to discourage members here from fawning over a pic and a name. That’s what stands out most about you.
            “Lovely Nordic Heidi” is over the top, along with the pic. But that’s just my opinion. Perhaps it’s just your age, but I think a new member presenting themselves the way you do is someone to watch out for. You would have made it easier for yourself had you come in as the average female member does. Low key with a good message. But as you can see, the focus isn’t on your message for many here.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “But as you can see, the focus isn’t on your message for many here.”

            I agree that we are not talking about how we are supposed to get along, as I pointed out in one of my comments.

          • Garrett Brown

            I didn’t assume think that picture was you. It could be your daughter or niece for all we know.

        • LovelyNordicHeidi

          LOL, I guess most women are only shopping… Seriously though, I think that few women are interested in politics. It just interested me because I like history and such things. I also have an interest in genetics, of course. But I don’t know, maybe when there are a few women, more will follow. If there are only male talks going on it is less attractive for many women to join in, so this should help.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Definitely. Welcome, again.

          • Garrett Brown

            Welcome Heidi, so glad to see another woman posting on this site.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Thank you, Garrett Brown! Looking forward to see your replies on my posts! 😉

      • Geo1metric

        A couple needs to have at least three children to have “replacement” statistically. But of course, the more the Whiter the world will be.

        • LovelyNordicHeidi

          That is why I said more than 2 or 3. ;-D

          Good that you stress it though.

  • D.B. Cooper

    His resume tells me he knows exactly what’s wrong, yet I have no respect for a man who is too afraid to say so.

    • mikebowen55

      Henry Ford knew about it long ago.

      • So CAL Snowman

        Internationally . . .

      • FransSusan

        Henry Ford? Please, more detail.

        • So CAL Snowman

          This is the absolute dead truth, Henry Ford published a four volume set of booklets entitled “The International Jew.” I will stop there but if you are interested I would encourage you to check it out.

    • Hunter Morrow

      He does not think he did anything wrong. He got wealthy helping his race and hurting Whites.

  • Luca

    He’s right. Obama and his predecessors, have created an entitlement mentality among the ignorant, indoctrinated masses to the point of addiction.

    Since this is such a harsh affliction among the American people, it will take a harsh medicine to cure it.

    What politician has the will to administer such a harsh medicine? If he had the will,l he could never state it publicly until after he was elected.

    • Max Krakah

      No politician. It is time for something else.

  • dd121

    Get a Priest, the Republicans are done.

    • pcmustgo

      Lol, I’ve had my fallings outs with “Conservatives” who refuse to look at the racial issue, have never experienced endless reverse racism like I have, etc.

      • dd121

        I suspect that’s why many of the posters at AmRen keep returning.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Yeah, I was here on and off through the years. The traffic has never been higher. That’s no coincidence.

        • LovelyNordicHeidi

          The financial crisis helps. It makes people look for other options.

    • Hunter Morrow

      Ditch the priest idea andfor God’s sake don’t replace the rabbis and think that will do anything good for our race.

    • Guest

      Do rabbi’s perform last rites?

  • WR_the_realist

    Luntz has been a big promotor of the George Bushes, John McCains, and John Boehners of the Republican Party. In other words, just the sort of creepy people that make it impossible for those of us who can’t stand Democrats to vote Republican.

    So Luntz is reaping what he has sown. Unfortunately the rest of us are reaping it too.

    • Rhialto

      This comment is spot on. The American people are divided because there are divisive issues that they care about. Tricky Dick Nixon’s technique of saying what non-Liberals wanted to hear, and doing what Liberals and big business wanted done, won’t work anymore. This means that BS artists like Lunz will have to find new sources of wealth.

      • Geo1metric

        Well, by moving to Vegas, he is in the middle of the neighborhood is people built, so he should have no problem finding a new gig.

    • jane johnson

      I don’t think he was necessarily promoting anyone. I used to watch Fox News all the time, and the focus groups Luntz set up didn’t always follow the script. Sure, he tended to stack the panels to favor whomever was paying the bills, but there were always enough “dissidents” to keep his focus groups from being a complete joke.

  • Truth Teller

    Boo hoo
    The republican party was founded to free the farm equipment and seize the property and resources of the southeastern states and Texas. That war killed 750 thousand prime of life Whte men They succeeded. The south suffered 100 years of poverty including serious malnutrition as a result of that war. They love non White immigration as much as Foxman and Morris Dees do.
    Let them die.

    • jane johnson

      I would love to see the descendants of Robert E. Lee sue the federal government for the illegal seizure of family property that occurred during the uncivil war. Talk about reparations owed!

      • That already happened.

        U.S. v Lee Kaufman in 1882. SCOTUS wisely ruled that the Yankee government wrongly seized the Lee estate and awarded it back to his oldest son, who then in short order sold it back to the Federal government. By then, Arlington was already a prominent veterans cemetery, so it would not have behooved the Lee descendents to live in a house that’s in the middle of an extensive graveyard.

        • Thank you! If we are (still) a nation of laws, quoting case law is always useful.

        • jane johnson

          Thanks, QD. Now I know the rest of the story.

        • dd121

          That of course is only one of many evil things the Yankees did during and after the war.

  • Spartacus

    America won’t exist in a few decades anymore. It’s really very simple – Dark-skins live off the money produced by Whites. As the number of dark-skins explodes, and the number of Whites decreses, so will government income, and as such it will no longer afford to maintain welfare. Simple, right ?

    • pcmustgo

      It’s not just the welfare issue. It’s that a lot of these non-white immigrants don’t even identify as American. And don’t identify with American culture at all.

      • Spartacus

        Yes, but that can be kept under control by the relative prosperity America still has. When that goes away, every other problem you have will explode at the same time, and the government will collapse in a matter of months .

        • LuisBritishIberian

          The entire system is already imploding and more and more people are recognizing it. The trouble is that the majority in this country are dependent on the theft of their white neighbors wealth. I propose that whites segregate themselves from the non whites and let them rot in their multicultural enclaves.

        • Ding, ding, ding; we have a winner!

          Prosperity is the only thing postponing the Happy Fun Stuff.

          • BonusGift

            You beat me to it, that is, ditto. Ding, ding, ding, buy that man a chicken dinner.

      • Kenner

        I believe that the choice of a number of retailers to remain open on Thanksgiving was a recognition that the holiday means nothing to increasing numbers of ‘americans.’

        • IstvanIN

          And Christmas, the end of our culture.

      • Brian

        I used to think we were turning from England into Brazil; now it seems more like Yugoslavia. This thing is held together by debt-based bread and circuses.

        • Anna Tree

          Racially speaking, turning into Yugoslavia is better. Especially that there won’t be any NATO to police us. There will be a separation but later we will get all back.

    • LACounty

      Hide your money if at all possible. The turning point has been reached. The freeloader vote will own the White House for a long time. Unless enough Whites get their act together and vote for a true pro-White Conservative, it’s over.

      • jane johnson

        We would gladly vote for a pro-White conservative; if we could find one! Jeff Sessions, maybe.

        • LACounty

          I’m not familiar with him, I’ve been so fed up with politics. I think moving to a White Conservative controlled state gives me a better chance. Perhaps some brave governor will start ignoring Fed laws and attempt some type of secession. Probably long after I’m gone. But I don’t think they’ll give us a viable Presidential option, ever again.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            He’s been pretty outspoken against the H-1B program and about the phony unemployment data. He’s closer to the American side than most of them.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            Brave governor, hahaha. I hold with the axiom that anyone who runs for public office is unfit to hold it.

          • LACounty

            That’s pretty much how it’s been, so far.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        By looking for a candidate we are condoning a rigged system. Look for a candidate who can navigate us into a two-state solution–as is happening with Israel. Don’t engage in a rigged system. Disengage. Extricate.

        • jane johnson

          Secessionists are hard to find these days. Correction: politically viable secessionists are hard to find.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Every American President I can remember talked openly and freely about the mechanics of a two-state solution for Israel/Palestine.

            That includes O’Bummer, so they’ve got nowhere to go in such a debate. Just ask them the obvious question: “Why is it OK to discuss a two-state solution for Israel/Palestine and not OK to discuss a RED/BLUE solution for America?”

            Now imagine a deer in the headlights and some crickets…. <;-)

            God I love debating Demo-rats. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

        • LACounty

          I know. Secession is our best chance.

    • Laura Dilworth

      so, everyone dies?

      • Spartacus

        Only those who don’t fight .

        • Laura Dilworth

          ah

        • Plenty of the ones who do fight also die. I’d still take thrashing around on the ground while I bleed out over cancer or diabetes any day.

          • Spartacus

            The ones who fight will have an infinitelly smaller death rate than the ones who don’t .

          • Garrett Brown

            “You have my shield!”

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Sounds like you might want to get your affairs in order.
        Where ya been?

        • Laura Dilworth

          Spartacus said that America won’t exist in A FEW DECADES. I doubt if I’ll be around by, say 2060. I could easily die of old age at that point. I’m still concerned about future Americans. Thanks, I love Amren.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yes, I often quote Gramsci’s termites.

            Mother America looks like she is standing on her own two feet, but the termites have made her fragile and hollow.

          • Laura Dilworth

            indeed

        • The new traffic here is amazing.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yeah, this link in particular must have broken an AmRen record.

    • Geo1metric

      My America no longer exists.

      • Katherine McChesney

        The American I loved is dead. Segregation was heaven. And our towns were safer and attractive. And then the hammer fell.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          What is interesting about segregation is application of the definition.
          The LGBTQ community, for example, self-segregates.

          The ‘L’ in LGBTQ has taken over most of the town of Northampton, Massachusetts. Not the ‘L’ and the ‘G’, just the ‘L’. So much so in fact that the town’s nickname is ‘Lesbianville’. And somehow that is OK.

          Hypocrisy examples abound on the Left.

    • BonusGift

      Bingo; and it’s already happening, just don’t expect it to be televised anytime soon.

  • Guest

    These (R) creeps are loyal to their party, instead of their race that’s the problem. They are just sick minded has-beens. Case in point –

    • Political parties in general, not just any one in particular, are the problem. They have (d)evolved into institutions to which one is supposed to show greater loyalty and fealty than the country they supposedly serve. When we win our ultimate victory and get our ethnostate, our new constitution should among other things explicitly prohibit political parties.

      • Geo1metric

        I have become convinced that our two party system is also designed to “divide and conquer”.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        And an ethnic low water mark. 95% European–no less.

      • jane johnson

        Or, at least, stop calling them parties since we stopped having “fun” a long time ago.

      • Brian

        Even if you outlaw official parties, people will form coalitions in all but name. But we could have a parliamentary system with a number of small parties forming alliances.

        • You are correct. But I would imagine that such coalitions in a party-free system would be far more ephemeral and fluid than out and out right organized political parties.

  • Lewis33

    Just another dual loyalty adviser selling snake oil to the stupid party.
    From the j-wish daily forward (in a interview with Luntz), “Be vocally and unconditionally pro-Israel,” was the advice he gave them.”

    • Hunter Morrow

      The White man needs jews to run polls to tell him how to think.

      They don’t look White to me and they do not act it.

  • John K

    The fraudulent election and then reelection of comrade Obama is just another step in the communists’ and blacks’ war on white America. Whites, for some reason, just refuse to accept this fact, and this is why America is destined to go the way of Rome.

  • Extropico

    “The people are angry. They want more, not because we have not given them enough but because we have given them too much.”

    No, you pompous, disingenuous plutocratic ponce who evokes Marie Antoinette.

    The people are angry because you took too much. You took away the nation’s racial majority and way of life so that a few banksters could get wealthy by arbitraging international wage differences.

  • MBlanc46

    It’s really difficult to judge the future of either party by the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. There is evidence that the Dems could have a lock on the presidency for years, but, in politics, a week is a long time.

  • Eddie Lutz

    We need more whites on welfare so the welfare system collapses from the extra weight. The sooner the welfare state collapses the sooner the liberals lose their ability to buy votes. Then we’ll see how much illegal immigration and off-shoring jobs the populace tolerates. A white population explosion is the only way to reverse the fall of civilization. If you’re young and you’ve got a woman, what are you waiting for? Five kids minimum per man.

    • LACounty

      What you say is true but most can’t afford 5 kids. Whites need to move to White states. That’s a start, then eventually ignore the feds.
      Btw, I have 5 adult kids. None with kids born out of wedlock.

      • Geo1metric

        The ability to raise children is not dependent on money. Poor populations have the most children. You have to swear off the “consumerism” while rearing your children.

        • LACounty

          Then what is the reason for the drop of children per couple from over 3.4 in the 50’s to less than 2 today?
          As the cost of living has increased, the need for both parents making incomes has forced the drop in my opinion. Sure, all White couples can start popping out 6 kids, but they’ll be living in a hellhole amongst other poor non-Whites. Who’s going to watch those kids while the parents are at work? Day Care? How much is that?
          In 1970 I believe gas was around .50 per gallon. If you made $3.00 per hour (I believe about minimum wage at the time), you were earning the equivalent of 6 gallons of gas per hour. Minimum wage today $8.00, gas $4.00. A minimum wage job today will hardly get you 2 gallons per hour or work. Poor pops have the most kids. They don’t care that they can’t afford it. That’s one reason they’re poor. Whites need to have more kids. I agree. Now convince them.

          • Geo1metric

            My wife and my mother came from large families with not much money. They both managed to work their way through college, etc.

            Go on a two month backpacking trip and learn how little you can get by on.

            I guess my message is that we have a choice as to whether we buy into the rampant consumerism of modern America or not. I choose not. It simply helps prop up the evil system.

          • Garrett Brown

            Your wife and mother lived in very different times. They both most likely grew up before the late 60s/early 70s.

          • LACounty

            I’ve been researching life off the grid. Amazing how some get by without any government ties. And that number is increasing.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yeah, in Dr. Helen’s book, she says it’s called ‘Going Ghost’.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            It’s because European Americans are too proud to let anyone else support their kids. That’s why we were once great.

          • Anna Tree

            I don’t have 5 kids nevertheless I think I would still make it where I live. It’s all about rejecting consumerism and living on a small budget, making your own stuff and knowing how to pay the mortgage of a smaller house before spending on anything else, including vacation, restaurant, car, clothes, haircut and everything else. Yes it will take a few years of leisure of one’s life but then being debt free will give you those years back in health. Indeed this is the woman’s job, to know how to save the money from the hard-work of her husband. To balance the budget, cook all the meals, bake, cut the family’s hair, walk or bike everywhere, only one present at Christmas and birthday, buy only second hand, even close to expiry date food (50% off!) etc etc

            No need to take from the system but heck if a white racialist family does, I would not be sad.

            It’s about a first generation to not live the American Dream so their kids will get to see it. Our ancestors were much poorer than we are. And they were maybe happier. It is sad because we had it all good, but a generation will have to sacrifice, maybe two, so our descendants will be better off. So yes make more children, live poor if one has to: the minimum is decent food and a roof. The goal is educating properly the children, home schooling or extra schooling and more children. Yes a stay at home mom is the best.

            I am not talking about one of you, just in general: I still can’t understand the stories of families with good wages before the mortgage fiasco, who lost their house. Why on earth didn’t they pay their house before loosing their job? I will speak to the young people out there: with a good job you can pay a nice house in less than 10 years. Don’t fall in the trap of the banks! Of course they will let you pay the house on a 25 years mortgage, it’s how you pay double the price of the house! One part pays the house and the other part goes to the bank!!! The interest costs you the same money like the house!

            I will explain myself that way: Pay 12 times the principal in the first month ever of your mortgage and you saved one year of the mortgage and 12 interest months, this is a 6-8 thousands dollars! Just because one was able to pay 5 thousands the first month. Yes you pay 5 but you saved more than 5…

            Of course 12 is a dream, but pay 2 or 3 times the principal per month and you can save 10 years. A decade off your mortgage is more than an hundred thousand dollars not given to the bank.

            The secret is to pay the most you can, every dollar is important, the soonest at the start of the mortgage, the first years are the critical one because the interest is high because the loan is big. Young couples should do this. Work hard 5 years, live on the minimum, pay the mortgage and you saved the money the bank was supposed to get, i.e. $100,000(s).

          • AndrewInterrupted

            And that mentality will also be key with respect to Jared’s ethno-state.

            The parasites will be pouring out of their termite holes when they realize the hosts might be getting away. Knowing how to survive at subsistence levels will be critical when the haters deliver boycotts and sanctions.

            They won’t allow pockets of America to still exist.

        • Garrett Brown

          Poor countries have tons of kids because we send them aid. It’s almost impossible for middle income white families to have more than two kids now a days and be able to fully provide for them and be able to afford proper schooling.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            That’s the problem I have with sending American jobs to India. They are already wildly over-populated. Giving them good American technology jobs just generates more.

    • We want more kids, and I actually applied for food stamps when both my Sayaka and I were unemployed. Actually, she was unemployed, while I am better described as “unemployable”. We were denied – by a greaserita – because I own the house outright. On my way out of her office, I said that I thought programs like these were intended to keep people from losing their homes.

      I was also told “no” even when I wanted temporary disability after what SSI doctors confirmed had been somewhere between a mild stroke and a really bad TIA.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I think it requires a complete rewrite of how this country operates. We should take steps to discard the whole ‘majority rule’ concept. Secession is more important than ever now. ‘Majority rule’ just encourages gangsters and the race-to-the-bottom type people to degrade our culture and our sovereignty.

      Israel is faced with the same dilemma. They will never allow for Palestinian ‘majority rule’. It’s absurd. The two-state solution is the only way for Israel and the U.S.

      • LeGrandDerangement

        Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Yes, indeed.

          That is the new democracy, though. The one without honor. That’s why the European Americans made the old definition work. The missing ingredient is honor.

          That is why the ethno-state that Jared longs for is so important. Europeans are wired for honor.

  • LACounty

    Bingo. And voting for the lesser of evils doesn’t work. 8 million White registered Repubs didn’t vote the last time. You are absolutely correct. He will be demonized by the media and his opponents, but the only chance is for someone to run on the White vote. Democrats have the freeloader vote locked up for a long time, including those illegals that will get to vote after amnesty.

    • Geo1metric

      George Wallace did that in 1968. The establishment (repubs. and dems.) stood up as one entity, and limited him to about twenty percent of the vote.

      Things may be different now though. Not sure if there are enough “eyes wide opened” Whites yet.

  • JohnEngelman

    Leaving his employees behind, he flew back to his mansion in Los Angeles, where he stayed for three weeks, barely going outside or talking to anyone…

    “You should not expect a handout,” he tells me. “You should not even expect a safety net. When my house burns down, I should not go to the government to rebuild it. I should have the savings.

    – Molly Ball, The Atlantic, January 6, 2014

    Rich Republicans have difficulty understanding this, but life feels differently for people who do not live in mansions. White blue collar workers did not start voting Republican because they became so affluent that they no longer needed or wanted the reforms of the New Deal, but because the did not trust the Democratic Party on the problem of black crime.

    • Screamin_Ruffed_Grouse

      If that were true we’d have a hell of a lot more racially aware blue collar Republicans than we have now.

      • One major obstacle to racially-aware whites is television. Many otherwise well-meaning people would much rather watch sit-coms and “afawete” games on TV than do anything real on their own.

  • JohnEngelman

    The GOP has different reasons for wanting more immigrants than the Democratic Party, but it still wants more immigrants. Democratic politicians want more Democratic voters. Republican politicians want lower wages.

    • Max Krakah

      That really makes no sense anymore when the democrats are raising the minimum wage. With government deciding wages labor supply will have no impact on wages.

      • The democrats will continue to demand open-door immigration, just to import more DoA – “Democrat on Arrival” – voters. Illegals can not vote (yet) but their anchor babies are instant citizens under what currently passes for US “law”.

        You are also wrong about government decrees on wages having no impact on actual paychecks. More jobs will go either to the additional hordes of illegals, or else will be off-shored.

        • jane johnson

          And it will keep unemployment very high among urban youth, giving them the excuse(as if they need one) for their antisocial behavior.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            “Urban youth”, hahaha.

        • Max Krakah

          so, it will have an effect on the number of jobs for citizens. Illegals will be working under the table.

  • Max Krakah

    Once the ball starts rolling, whites will find they need to belong , just for the sake of saving their own lives. Self interest is a wonderful thing and I don’t think that when it comes to the point , which is rapidly approaching, that blacks are seen as mortal threats, when it comes to that point I do not think you will need to worry about the latecomers. Some of the most strident religious people are the newly converted.

  • Hunter Morrow

    look to the last name and actions or forever be a dupe.

  • Geo1metric

    Hate is highly useful in a combat situation, but it cannot be the flaming hot kind of hate, it must be the deep burning kind of hate which is sustainable over a long period of time and focused.

    • BonusGift

      Good point.

  • Hunter Morrow

    Simpson- Mazzoli under Saint Ronnie Reagan begs to differ.

  • Hunter Morrow

    They look so White but they act so jew!

  • Geo1metric

    I think a more likely outcome is that set forth in Tom Chittum’s CIVIL WAR II; the country devolves into a race war, and the country fractures along racial lines into three fairly racially homogeneous sections, The Black South, the Hispanic Southwest, and the White restofthecountry.

    • Sick of it

      The only way blacks could hold the South is with the United States military doing the fighting for them. FFS so many of them don’t even know how to aim a gun properly!

      • jane johnson

        NFW we give the South to the blacks. That’d be like the north winning twice.

        • Brian

          My people came from Europe to PA, and two years later (1745) went to NC and then GA. I’m staying put come hell or high water. At worst, I can raise a ruckus and thin the herd some when the SHTF.

        • Tom B.

          Way to go girl!! I have said for years if the people up North will stay out of our way, we can handle the blacks. If we can’t send them back to Africa then just send them to the Northeastern states–they love them up there!!

      • Geo1metric

        I am in no way suggesting that we “give the South” to the blacks. That’s how it plays out in Civil War II.

        As an “un-reconstructed” rebel, my thought would be to offer them a choice of returning to Africa or putting them on reservations…somewhere.

      • Brian

        The blacks have one weapon even they can manage, even if by accident: FIRE. EBT shuts down, and half the large cities will burn. Not an insurmountable problem, but a problem.

  • Geo1metric

    There is no essential difference between the dems and the repubs. They are the two sides of the same coin.

    The wedge issues are simply to trick the rubes.

  • Geo1metric

    Oh gee! I feel so sorry for Cluntz.

  • Truth Teller

    It won’t work. A lot of people they think of as the “new underclass” will just remain on welfare. They aren’t very servile.

    • That won’t work, either. Without a white middle class working to pay taxes, the welfare system must necessarily collapse. Creating additional artificial “middle-class” blacks and browns by giving them government jobs isn’t a solution, because ultimately the money to pay these parasites will have to come from somewhere. For obvious reasons, they can’t borrow it all from China.

      • Geo1metric

        The money will come from simply revving up the printing presses.

        • That still won’t work. We are off the gold standard, but the idea is still the same. What backs the US dollar? Simple: the total value of all of the goods and services produced by the working US public. Printing more money will only result in the hyperinflation South American nations inflicted upon themselves in the 1970s.

          What is the value of a three-pronged widget made at ACME Products? This depends on how badly the widget is wanted elsewhere in the world. The widget-engineer, managers, sales-staff and assembly-line workers are paid accordingly, and if the product is desireable, perhaps ACME expands production and hires more widgeteers.

          What is the value of the faux “work” of an overweight negress who is paid to play “dress-up” and gossip at a government office five days a week? Since the rest of the world won’t pay for LaQantashelisha’s fake “work”, the value of what she pretends to produce is exactly zero. Printing more “money” backed by her pretense to contribution to the economy yields toilet paper with zero genuine value.

          Printing more money does not solve the problem; only increased human productivity will.

          • Geo1metric

            Agree. See my edit above.

      • Truth Teller

        It’s called borrowing and printing more money, just like what’s happening now.

        • Sure, but eventually there is a debt cliff, and this cliff may not be abrupt. I envision it as a quickly steepening slope in which braking action becomes progressively more difficult.

      • BonusGift

        Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner for the chicken dinner.

      • Max Krakah

        WE must make it collapse sooner, now, before our demographic position becomes much worse. Whites should go on welfare in droves, and have lots of children too. The Spartan men did not live with their wives, they lived in male barracks. Perhaps we could have a new white national movement where the men lived in white nationalist barracks, or clubs, since welfare is not given to married couples. The sons were transferred to the barracks sat some point, I think at age five or eight. White people should collapse the present system.

        • Anna Tree

          There have been other white demographic bottle necks in the past, I think we can survive the one coming (there will be many other bottle necks in other parts of the world when whites won’t give food, medicine, knowledge away anymore).

          I always thought Sparta could become a model, at least as a transition, under the American Constitution of course.

  • LovelyNordicHeidi

    “White racial consciousness and European ethnic nationalism is on the rise”

    You are completely right about that. I am 23, and my experiences with the advantages of “integration” and “multiculturalism” in the schools made that I became aware of who my ancestors are. It helped me to find back my roots, and to learn about the concept of race.

    “The lesson is simple; ‘Hate’ can be a useful emotion, but we must never make the mistake that Luntz and his kin have made and allow it to become so overpowering, so dominant, and so stifling that it clouds our minds and blurs our long range vision. As with any other emotion that Mother Nature instilled within us – we must keep them all under control, and not let any of our emotions drive us to behave in a stupid and self-destructive manner.”

    I agree with your concept of hate. It is just human to hate, and it would be weird to have no anger at all. I would however not define our ideas as “hate” and certainly not associate any of our ideas with “hate”, because if we did, we would have started adopting the world view of our political opponents. We are just really annoyed with what is going on, and we are really frustrated at times because we are people who care about the world, the world of our people. There is no need to say anything about hate, because does the truth have anything to do with hate?

    People have called me all kinds of bad names, but it never changed anything about what I said nor who I am. They can call me a “racist bitch”, but who cares? There are enough men and women of our people who will stand together with us, reason with us and have our backs. Our feelings are just as complex as that of any human being, and we do not need to talk about hate having to do with anything of what we do or say. Our sayings and deeds are just too complex to be summarised as hate, really. Saying that it has to do with hate is just too simple, and I pity all people who say that we are haters.

    I know to which tribe you are alluding, and I also agree with you on that. My secondary school, for example, did an aweful job to indoctrinate me and others with ideas of “equality”, and so on. They also did an aweful job to teach me the PC history of Europe and Germany. Well, look how I turned out. I have become “one of ’em racists”. LOL, I would never describe myself in such a way, it is just too simplistic, like our miseducation at the schools these days. I survived school just by seeing reality, it was so much fun to live with “minorities”… and their music and food were also a wonderful addition to our once completely German nation… In any case, those minorities were useful for something. They woke me up, and there are many people like me, and there will be more in Europe, soon.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      Bing!!!!

      I really hope you are a lovely Nordic 23 year old woman who believes what you have written. We often get agitprop types here who post a pretty young face and then attempt to lure lonely male race realists into an ideological honey trap, lol…

      You seem like the real deal (though it’s webbytubeyland so who knows ultimately) and if so welcome to these forums and do come back over and over and over. You will quickly become one of the most popular and responded to posters, I assure you, LOL…

      But yeah, you’re post was pretty “nail-on-the-head”.

      • LovelyNordicHeidi

        Thanks NeanderthalDNA. I decided to join the AmRen today. I read the comments on AmRen already for some time, and it took me a lot of time to find places like this. I was at first a little too shy to join, really I can be very shy, but I changed my mind when I thought about the things that I could say. And… I am not lonely, hahah, I have a good husband and a one-year-old child. I hope that I can help our cause.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          “I decided to join the AmRen today…I hope that I can help our cause.”

          You just did!

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            OK, if that is what you need, then I can ask my husband to join, although he might not have time to write any comments because of his job, etc. If only my paternal grandmother, who is also race-aware, knew how to use computers, she might have had some useful things to say! By the way, I watched all the videos of Jared Taylor, Philip J. Rushton, etc. What else would you specifically recommend me to do, read or see?

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yes. Encourage all you can to join. Some folk here understandably complain that all we do is talk, that this serves as nothing much more than a psycho-spiritual pressure release, but they are wrong.
            You know, I had a crazy dream years ago. Very vivid. I was a peddler in mid 19th century Russia, around the time of some of the serf’s uprisings. I found myself outside a minor noble’s manor amid an angry crowd of peasants and serfs facing down the house guards. At some point it all got ugly and I seized one of the guard’s rifle, broke down the door with the help of the angry mob, rushed up the stairs at their head…and shot the teenage daughter of the noble in the gut.
            And when I looked around I saw that all those who had followed me had stopped. They were afraid and aghast and then I stood alone over the girl’s body and they fled. I remember the long trip through the snow with my cart, trying to think of what I’d say to my wife and kids. I made it home, sat down exhausted, decided I could not tell them, that they would find out when the authorities came for me. At least I might have a few more days of enjoying my family and pretending everything would be al right. At which point I awoke.
            I understand this dream now. It is the same conundrum awakened Whites face here and now. There is an evil, it must be opposed, but what will happen should I jump up front expecting my folk to back me…
            And they back down?
            This is why we need to build numbers, gain converts, spread the Truth. If we move before we have won a critical mass of hearts and minds over to our side, we will be destroyed.
            Awakening must precede reckoning.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Cool dream, thanks for sharing it. People looked down on me in secondary school and so on because I said things that they did not like. They did not necessarily disagree with me, but my world view did not match the PC world view. They are afraid of the consequences, and when they saw how people reacted to me, their faith which is based on fear must have been confirmed. Mostly I only insinuated in class that we should question the PC world view, and that gave me a bad name. It did not really change my mind though, I remember how they (especially non-Whites) hated that I got the best marks of my class and they were more than jealous. I had good friends, but there were times when I was really on my own. I understand how it feels to have a non-conformist world view, and I think that all of you have dealt with it in one way or another, and I am actually quite interesting in knowing how everyone of us deal with it. What happens on a smaller scale at school happens on a large scale in society. If boys did anything as risky as I did at school, I bet they would have been expelled. Feminism was useful for me in this case, but I wonder when anyone starts caring about the rights of White males. Teachers just tolerated my world view just a little more than they would have with any boy, I know how it works. Converting peole to our side is just a matter of knowing how to tell our story. In private it is easy, but in public it is hard. We do not get much of a chance to really speak in public. Any negro would call me a “racist” if I tried to bring up anything about black/white differences. Blacks are just hypocrites. They always whine about how bad the Germans (and any other White people) are, and they never look at themselves. Maybe that has to do with a lesser capability of self-correction and self-reflection? I am quite sure of it.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            OK, I’m convinced you are for real. Again, WELCOME and pardon my paranoia (not out of place here, lol).

            Not hitting on you (I am a Southern White male, though, thence yes I do flirt reflexively with women with whom I have no intentions of romantic relations) but if that pic is you, you are indeed a lovely woman, reminds me a bit of one of my favorite actresses, Yvonne Strahovski, who had a major part on a charming little TV series, “Chuck”, which you can see on Netflix now.

            Again, welcome and I look forward to your posts in the future, dear. Brains and beauty – kudos to your very lucky hubby!

            Please have as many beautiful, strong, and clever White kids as you two can bust out and responsibly care for and raise them to be like you.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            NeanderthalDNA, I totally looked over one of your posts!

            “Again, welcome and I look forward to your posts in the future, dear. Brains and beauty – kudos to your very lucky hubby!”

            Ahhh, thanks! 🙂

            “Please have as many beautiful, strong, and clever White kids as you two can bust out and responsibly care for and raise them to be like you.”

            People need to stop being pessimistic about society, and start focusing on what they CAN do. Maybe we cannot directly change society, but we can change it indirectly by changing our own lives. White folks need to become optimistic, and they need to become enthusiastic about having many children with people who share their ancestry. People need to stop looking for partners who do not belong to their kind, as that way of thinking inhibits us from finding a good partner of our own kind. Besides, looking for foreign partners is something that our political opponents want us to do, so we should do the opposite. For example, marriage between Germans works much better than marriage between Germans and non-Whites. That is just a fact. You can logically understand it, and scientifically prove it. I do not care if Asians are supposed to have a higher average IQ, we have our own advantages. Our elite has a higher IQ, and why would we play the underdog by letting people make us so inconfident that we would consider carrying the yoke of intermarriage with another kind? Really, I know what I can expect of German men, and I would never care to even try a relationship with a non-White man. I have a good marriage, and that is just the result of a conscious choice. I chose someone who is of my kind, who has the same biological culture, and who personally agrees with me. Similarity is what makes a good marriage. We do not need to be always happy. Why do we need to seek for a “happy” marriage? We can make it happy ourselves, and we have to be practical. You need to make concessions for any marriage, and you need to be willing to make those concessions. It is much easier to make those concessions when your partner is more similar to you. “Your type” must be the person who is the most similar to you in ancestry, biological culture and ideology. That is the perfect partner in my opinion. And when we know what our perfect partner is, we can achieve the goal of building large families. Marriage must have a practical basis, and from that practical basis a large family can arise. (I really talk like German philosophers now…) The main point is that we can change the world, the immediate world that is around us. We can already live in our own small “ethnostates” when we really want to. We can achieve it. In my immediate world I have already achieved segregation. When we know how the bliss of segregation in our immediate environment feels, we can convince the whole society with the enthusiasm that comes from that bliss. The story that we tell matters, and we can be victorious if we find the confidence in ourselves, the determination and also the heroism that I admire of men. Brave men are what true women need, and so those men have to stand up for their women and children and end this madness.

            About the photo: Yvonne Strahovski looks quite Slavic, and I look quite Scandinavian/German. My grandparents say that all our ancestors were Northern German, and had relatively Nordic looks. I know no bloodline of our family which has no Nordic looks. If anyone would try to recognise me from the photo, you would have a hard time in Germany. Honestly, I look quite random. So I am quite confident that no one can recognise me. That is one of the advantages of racial similarity.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Hey, no problem, lovely Valkyrie. As I predicted you are indeed one of the more popular posters here with an impressive comment to response ratio of 3.21. Not bad.

            Plenty of folks to talk to around here so no need to spread yourself too thin, lol.

            Again great points. Almost as if I’m listening to myself, ha ha!

            Keep that fire burning.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Don’t be so quick to welcome unknown posters here. Be cautious. I write you this from a lot of experience dealing with trolls who come onto pro-white boards like this to earn your trust over time and then turn on you to mess up entire forums.

            The very reason TOO no longer takes comments was due to a tactic very similar to what I’m seeing here. The boards were so screwed up all KMac could do was shut them down, which was the troll’s purpose in the first place.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Sure. See my response above.

            On the other hand we don’t want to scare away anybody real.

            I’ve helped chase off some interlopers before. Should I decide she is agitprop I will brutalize her verbally and pull no punches. The mods will quietly assist and all will be well.

            But healthy skepticism there Doc.

          • LACounty

            Well stated, Dr. It’s good to see all the new members here. As Neanderthal pointed out, Heidi has a comment to response ratio of 3.21. And it has nothing to do with her pic or name. 🙂
            Any new legit member would understand it’s good to be cautious.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yeah, with that pic and backstory I was thinking she’d actually have closer to a 5.x initially, but I think I underestimated the (healthy) cynicism of our posters here.

          • Garrett Brown

            With posts like these I can see why a few members were flirting with you lol. You are a dream come true for most conservative men if you live by what you preach. It takes a lot to make a deep relationship and later on marriage work. Much attention and effort must also go to the female side. You understand that very well. A happy marriage is when both people make it enjoyable, not worry about money or what car you drive. Fantastic thoughts Heidi.

            Don’t know why it would cause such a ruckus however.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “Don’t know why it would cause such a ruckus however.”

            It doesn’t matter. We are used to fighting, aren’t we? I will just fight my way through. At first I was a little intimidated, but all AmReners – even the skeptical ones – are the carriers of a spiritual fire that motivates, inspires and strengthens me.

            “Fantastic thoughts Heidi.”

            I hoped that my personal experienes and ideas would be useful to the AmRen folks. It is important that eugenics and marriage be unified like husband and wife. A successful marriage can only be built upon an anti-feministic basis in my opinion, and anti-feminism does not mean hatred of females, but a love of traditional females and their unique roles.

          • Garrett Brown

            I love traditional females!

          • MikeofAges

            Once again. Feminist social critic Camille Paglia wrote an essay recently in which she warned that modern civilization as we know it is a “male epic”.

            True, but not nuanced enough. Actually, it is a white male epic, which
            only the East Asians have been able to adopt on a fully functional
            basis. The rest of you: Don’t bother to turn off the lights on the way out. They’ll just go off on their own.

          • Max Krakah

            I always like Paglia.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Feminism is a big laugh. I often think “Seriously, do you think that males are that superfluous/unimportant?” They think that women can do everything on their own, well, why are there two genders then? And why are we women not the same as men in behaviour, appearence, etc.? Their discussion is all about how they want to see the world, not about how it really is.

          • MikeofAges

            Feminism evolved to a second stage. The overarching idea of second stage feminism, which all women are supposed to be united under, is the idea that each woman is supposed to have a certain position in society to which she automatically entitled. What this may be could vary by race, class, etnicity, place. But whatever it is, the woman is entitled to it simply because she exists. Men are there to provide for this regardless of what dislocations they may suffer and whether or not they get any benefit from their labor and contributions, or “benefits” in that other sense either. The only restraint is that pay has to be high enough to keep the men from going “slack”. Women either do not want to do the jobs that are essential to maintain a productive economy, not in large enough numbers, or they cannot do them.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yeah, I just finished Dr. Helen Smith’s book: Men on Strike. I didn’t realize it had gotten that bad. Especially in the schools. Good grief.

          • Mergatroyd

            I hate being right about these things. Here you are pouring out your dreams to someone who’s put up a few comments and has hooked you.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I thought it was a great dream and perfectly illustrated my and other White’s well founded fears of “standing up and taking the lead” against White genocide.

            I have no idea whether this person is agitprop or honest. Thanks for the concern, though.

          • LACounty

            I’m with you on this one. I call fake or at best someone that wants to draw attention based on a pic/nic. And some guys are falling for it.

          • Tom B.

            Well, that rips it for me, now I’m even suspicious of myself! There goes my dream of becoming a double-naught spy, I wouldn’t get past the first skirt. I sure did want to embark on just one more profession before I go under though—think I’ll keep watching, maybe you and mergatroyd can teach me to be a troll hunter!! Boy do I love this site!! shoulda got on here along time ago—you folks are some pretty sharp observers.

          • LACounty

            Yeah. Myself, Mergatroyd, and about a half-dozen others with similar comments. But you’re dead on, Tommy! There are no trolls or suckers on Amren.

          • Brian

            Read Lothrop Stoddard’s ‘The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy’ and Jean Raspail’s ‘Camp of the Saints’.

        • You’re now an AR regular, and have lurked for a long time.

          My snark hasn’t run you off yet?

          You should probably develop a thick skin, though with some of the other things you’ve said in this thread, having to deal with Africanus Bellcurvius as a young woman gave you that already.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Thank you Question Diversity! And nice meeting you!

            “You should probably develop a thick skin”

            I’ll just be myself, we’ll see how that turns out 😉

            And yes, I know about Homo Africanus. I wish they were a real species, though. That would have made the discussion a lot easier, and we would have had no hybrids, at all.

          • Dr. Möbias

            You too? This is a completely unknown poster you are welcoming. How do you know this isn’t a troll? What proof do you have?

            YOU need to develop a thick skin and let this poster prove her or himself over time and not just trust anyone coming on here.

            Keep your guard up. Forums like this are sitting ducks for troll attacks just like this. I’m familiar with this tactic.

          • Tom B.

            Well dadgum Doc!! I just recently started posting on this forum and not a single person accused me of being troll—I have been accused of being a dirty old man a few times though, does that count? Makes me think that being an ugly old man from Arkansas might have some advantages. Seriously though, I am not real computer literate and you have my curiosity aroused–just how the heck “could” a pretty little girl ( if she is real) damage our network here. That would make me angry as I have come to enjoy some of the banter on here. I guess me and Mr. Neanderthaldna share a similar background and just naturally are inclined to come to the defense of a pretty girl–he would probably be a white knight in armor riding a great steed—I would be more like a farmer in overhauls and brogans riding a mule. Just curious–should I get out my old flintlock and man the barricades or is there a real chance a troll could damage us?

          • On another site that cross-posts from here, I was once called a “Jewish troll”. I still do not understand how one gets “Jew” out of a quarter-breed blanket-head (which I have also been called) Celtic agnostic. My mother was Methodist and my ex-father a Catholic. Yes, I really, honestly am what I appear to be here.

            Like Dr. Mobias, I distrust her because in my comment about Europe’s wars she said “they”, rather than “we”, even though she poses here as a European rather than a North American, Australian or Kiwi. Her avatar isn’t hard on the eyes, but one can choose anything one likes in this respect. I’m a good-looking mostly-white guy from northern Colorado Springs and not really an orc, though I have fallen, so the avatar has significance for me. I’m only a light-grey orc.

            The discussion here is so civilized that I very much doubt a real troll could damage AmRen. We regulars are far more likely to win a convert than we are to be harmed in any event.

          • Tom B.

            Thank you sir–I really am enjoying this site and would hate to see it taken away. I almost moved to Colorado Springs back in my younger days. I was a newly promoted railroad engineer at the time—two of my railroad buddies, like me , were tired of getting laid off at our home terminal so they struck out to work for the Colorado Southern I believe it was called. I helped them move up there and could have stayed on but decided to go back home. I eventually got tired of railroading, never knowing if I had a job from one day to the next. I quit that job and more or less began to roam, doing any kind of job that came along–had I been born at the right time I would have been a mountain man or a drifting cowpoke. Not much of a legacy, but it sure was fun!!

          • Colorado Springs is a great place. There are lots of older retirees here, mainly ex-military. When I was still single, my main complaint was that the dating scene stank out loud. With the military bases (Fort Carson, Peterson AFB, Shriever AFB, Cheyenne Mountain and the Air Force Academy) there is a large surplus of single young men relative to the numbers of single young women. Since I’ve been married almost eight years, that’s not an issue anymore.

            It gets cold at this elevation in the winters, but we receive less snow than Denver. I like snow on the mountains (and we need the melt for water in the summer), but I detest driving in the stuff, even in the 4X4 Pinzgauer.

            It would be nice if there was more to do here during the evenings and weekends, but my solution to that problem was a basement full of shop tools. Hiking around Palmer Park and Garden of the Gods is great, however. I’ve been her for almost all of the last 23 years and I can’t imagine living anywhere else.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Maybe they saw your avatar and thought it was you. Does kind of evoke Nazi propaganda posters of the “rat Jew”…

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Wow, you are a mutt <;-)

          • Mergatroyd

            You are naive.

            Don’t be foolish. Anyone can come one here and pretend to be whatever and whoever they want. How do you know this is a “pretty little girl?”

            Here is someone who was almost caught up, just like you:

            Yeah, it’s coming back to me now. He posed as a high school kid with an “aw, shucks” demeanor and talked about a sister who got picked on by diversity. I only exchanged a couple of posts with him, mainly about racial demographics in northern WI/MN. When he came bounding out of the closet he asked me if I wanted to change my racist views, lol. He had a number of aliases. I remember you immediately began sounding alarm bells on him.

            No, like I said above, I only had a couple of exchanges with him, about demographics in the Upper Midwest. But some of the others really yakked it up with him, all the while you were posting alarms. When he exposed himself I felt really creepy, talking to someone that dishonest. It’s inspired me to emulate the protagonist in my favorite Norwegian movie, The Trollhunter, lol.

            –LeGrandDerangement

        • Sick of it

          There’s no point in being shy, reticent, or quiet anymore. Our enemies are planning to wipe us out of existence…what more can they possibly do to us?

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Nordics (i.e. blonde-haired and blue-eyed people) are genetically shyer, but that does not mean that we are inferior or have less potential. I think that shyness is our advantage. Perhaps there is more to shyness than the eye sees.

          • Mergatroyd

            Shut down every and all pro-White sites, which they’re experts at doing.

            Attack regular members and threaten to get their IPs and expose them to their employers as RacistNazis. I’ve received this threat numerous times on pro-White sites.

            Attack web hosts who “sponsor” racist sites like this one — you can ask El Skunko about that after every single web host dropped his great and informative blog.

            Threaten hotel employees with violence if the hotel they work for hosts pro-White conventions like the AR convention. Ask Jared Taylor about that.

            Send in paid infiltrators and FBI informers like Hal Turner to “bust up” pro-White meetings and rallies, including Tea Party rallies. Have ’em hold misspelled signs to show the country how illiterate and uneducated “White Supremacists are. The media will gladly pick this up and post it on the front pages.

            That’s what they can do, and have done.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            If my IP was reported to my employer under the heading: RacistNazi it would be a very big pay day.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Wow, you rock, Heidi. Welcome aboard!

  • NeanderthalDNA

    Yeah, you know…it builds up after a while, living and promoting destructive lies. Treachery and spite and self hatred all gnaw at the soul of the non-sociopath involved in such wickedness and eventually something has to give.

    It is not unlike this in regard to our society either. This thought gives me much hope.

    There can be no reckoning without an awakening.

  • BonusGift

    Bingo; thank you for the clarity and insight.

  • BonusGift

    I generally agree, but Reagan ultimately caved and supported the first “amnesty”. I voted for him (my first two chances I had to vote in fact), but I thought that amnesty was the worst thing that could be done to the country. I knew the party of evil would have done worse, but how stupid was that; and surely Ben Shalom Luntz would have advised to amnesty as many into his Vegas ‘melting pot’ as possible. Anyways, after that I have either refrained from voting or voted Constitution Party; thank you party of stupid for listening to the Luntzs, Adelsons, AIPAC, etc. … sarc. off.

    • Reagan was so focused on winning the Cold War he could taste it, so in order to get the defense buildup he wanted, he made nasty deals with the Democrats and big-business Republicans in congress.

  • Anon

    What Luntz is saying is the solutions aren’t about who gets elected but about splitting the country into white and non-white.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      That’s the only way now.

      With 20 million more Mexican gangsters on the way to pull the ‘D’ lever.

      • Garrett Brown

        30 million*

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Take your pick. How many actual Demo-rats are there now, who wouldn’t be if Reagan hadn’t been duped in 1986?

          “We’ll make an exception. Just this one time”. Yeah, right.

          • Garrett Brown

            Our own government’s estimation is 15 million. What the rule has been since the 80s is for every known illegal there is another undocumented.

  • BonusGift

    You are correct; at this point the filter used by the media and related tribal affiliates is so strong that nobody gets through it at the national level. Look at the party of stupid this last go around, only Ron Paul supported the constitution but was pro ‘legal immigration’ and he was absolutely slaughtered by the tribal media and other related groups and individuals. Therefore, nobody even remotely representing our interests is allowed through. Clearly, that filtering system is as strong as it has ever been. It is likely it will be collapse first then we shall see. Actually the economic collapse is well under way, but even that is not allowed to be mentioned on tribal controlled media. For example, the number of unemployed increases yet the official “unemployment rate” goes down. Orwell wouldn’t even believe the stuff we now hear spewing forth from the various teleprompter reading idiots on the various MSM outlets and government record keepers.

    • Whitetrashgang

      Orwell would believe, its just without the Internet it is 1984. Its just scary how dumb most people are.

  • MikeofAges

    Most Jewish psychiatrists are clueless oafs. They want to be in a profession for the supposed prestige and the security. The go into psychiatry because they don’t understand themselves, which belief is a sure sign of neurosis. When they begin practice, they do what they are trained to do. Some eventually try to be helpful and may succeed at that. If there are any who have any power, I’d like to know where they hang out. Psychologists are a different breed. Their “stripe” has little to with it. Generally they are inflexible and extremely persistent about maintain their preconceived positions. Beware all therapists. If you have something you need to talk about or explain, you’d be better buddy up to a homeless guy on the street. If he told you, “I see”, he’d actually mean it.

    Jews do cluster in certain occupations, but I never have known anyone who wanted to run the world behind the scenes. Not saying there isn’t a clique of “world controllers” behind the scenes somewhere. But your local Jewish neurologist, insurance agent or surplus store entrepreneur isn’t part of it.

    If there is a secret group running the world, or trying to, I guarantee you, it is multi-national, and as old as the Sphinx.

  • BonusGift

    Bingo; the reality is that the more distinct they act and feel the easier it will be to segregate them and ship them to wherever YT won’t be such a nuisance to them, for example, the third world hellhole from which they or their kind came from (I’d write something more biblical in terms of final resting place for them, but the moderator might not be feeling too white today).

  • Max Krakah

    White Americans should start speaking German, or French, something that “others” won’t understand. Perhaps German or maybe even Gaelic. Haitians speak French.

    • jane johnson

      Haitians do NOT speak French! 95% of them speak Kreyol, a rather nasty hybrid of Taino, West African, and Portuguese. In Florida, public assistance applications are available in this language.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        And those fools probably consider that job creation.

        • jane johnson

          Yep. They actually hire some of their own “clients” to expedite the process, and call them “interpreters”.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Like a “chain immigration” example?

          • jane johnson

            Precisely.

      • LeGrandDerangement

        I speak some French and have seen Haitian Creole. Unrecognizable, Third World glop.

      • Max Krakah

        OK, yes, I know that, but they may understand some french while there is likely not one negro on the face of this planet that speaks or wants to learn to speak Gaelic.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Gaelic is tough. English became the dominant language because it makes the most sense. The most commonly spoken words are the smallest. Spanish, for example, uses the word ‘nosotros’ for the English word ‘we’. English just works.

    • Sick of it

      We could revive the old Gothic language.

      • One of my friends from jail could speak it. He had made an obsession of “Beowulf” as a high-schooler. I thought he was speaking Danish at first.

        • Sick of it

          Very interesting. Also very different from more modern Germanic languages, whether it be due to Latin influence or not. Just looking at the verbs has me quirking my eyebrows from time to time. Nonetheless, all of us with European ancestry came from the Goths.

    • Brian

      Haitians speak French.
      ===
      They try to. Being African though, they couldn’t really manage and mangled it into ‘creole’. They even want miscegenation with language.

      • Max Krakah

        ok they speak Fre-bonics

        • Brian

          Good one. I’ve tried speaking schoolboy Parisian French with a few Haitians (to get some practice), but it always ends in comedy. The look on their faces, of strained partial recognition, is probably how I look when I hear Ebonglish.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            That’s true with French Canadians. My father spoke Parisian French. Some Canucks came down to help us out with an ice storm back in the 70’s and my father tried striking up a conversation with them. My father could only understand every third word.

          • Anna Tree

            French Canadians speak a 17th century French, mostly from South West of France. White Parisian French is mostly a more modern French from Paris, with addition from other languages. They do have an accent, but then Parisians have also an accent in the ears of French from other parts of France.

            The real big difference is that Quebecois insist to translate foreign words, particularly of course English words, to feel separate. Such pity, disliking so much the Anglophones and letting your country getting overun by non Europeans non-whites!!! French translate some words too but not all. For example we say hot-dog and the Quebecois will say chien-chaud (literal translation!) !!! But again, that’s minimal.

            On another hand, Quebecois seem to me, lately, a bit more racialist and nationalist than the other Canadians, but it is maybe just chauvinism vs the English.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            France made the mistake of keeping Algeria as a territory.

            Much the same mistake America made by keeping protectorates like Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, etc. They enter the mainland freely and just take–and take some more.

          • LeGrandDerangement

            Cherchez le site Federation des Quebecois de Souche. On discute de la culture europeene au Quebec.

          • Anna Tree

            Oh I did! I didn’t look yesterday because I am not Quebecoise but I should have! Thanks! Now I understand… It’s a Renaissance Quebecoise 🙂

          • LeGrandDerangement

            I read an interview with the head of FQS some time back, with AltRight or Amren, I forget. But they’re confronting the dilemma of forced multiculti up there. The province recently passed an ordinance prohibiting public Muslim dress, lol. Bien fait!

    • BonusGift

      Finnish.

      • Max Krakah

        Well, I’d prefer to stick with a European language, of the indo-european family, so that leaves out Finnish, hungarian and I think estonian.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Trayvonsylvania

  • jane johnson

    Outside of Atlanta, that sh** won’t fly in Georgia.

  • Geo1metric

    Right. the word “nation” has its root in a latin word meaning “born”. A nation is actually people who are genetically alike such as the Cherokee “nation”, etc.

    • Brian

      Middle English nacioun, from Anglo-French naciun, from Latin nation-, natio birth, race, nation, from nasci to be born; akin to Latin gignere to beget

  • NeanderthalDNA

    Yeah, redouble their efforts at attracting and holding their base, ape the parts of the Dem platform Whites are OK with, just say no to immigration.

    I also think some kind of push for something like a…”compassionate meritocracy” might resonate and serve to attack affirmative action with plausible deniability of “racism”.

    How’s your studies going, MRI? Getting close to some kind of light at the end of the tunnel?.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    The biggest agony for me with respect to Frank Luntz is that red squirrel he insists on wearing on his head.

  • Geo1metric

    Can someone explain why White advocacy groups are more successful in Europe than in the US while the European laws against so-called “hate speech” etc. are stronger than in the US?

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      We are more aware of who we are. We all speak different languages, we do not all speak one European language. I think that language is important, and we have a very long history in these lands, etc. Integration is also newer for us than I think for the US, because the Americans were already familiar with an idea of equality before we were (at least, before much of us had any idea of equality, as the French already had some equality fantasies), we really had less talk going on about equality in the past and this has positive effects for us now. In any case, I also dare to theorise that there might be more (ethno-)nationalism in Europe in general. Take a look at Croatia, Poland or Greece, those peoples are quite race-aware. Western Europe is rather the problem. In Western Europe people need to find their roots again, and trust me, they will.

      • As regards so-called “hate” speech, Europe still has a hangover from the 1933-1945 unpleasantness. Hitler was a supremely gifted orator, but put his talent to an end that was disastrous, utilizing methods which could charitably be described as psychopathic. Because of their macro-Balkanization, Europeans often stereotype each other: The English think Scots and Yorkshiremen are cheap and the Irish drink too much. French think Bretons are uncivilized. Slovenes regard Croats as arrogant and Serbs as greedy thieves.

        In this light it is easy to understand how Europe talked itself into a completely unnecessary World War One. French and Belgian EOD teams are still removing unexploded munitions from 1914-1918. The British assault on Messines Ridge involved preparing five massive mines, tunneled under German positions. Three were successfully detonated prior to the infamous 1916 human wave attack. One of them blew the “Hawthorn Redoubt” sky-high, wiping out a German regiment. Another blew up in the 1970s after a lightning strike. The last is still waiting there; several hundred tons of TNT. Since TNT crystallizes, it becomes less stable over time. It’ll take the side off that hill off someday.

        This is easy for me to understand on a non-emotional level, as I’m a Yank. On the other hand, I can completely understand the mounting frustration among working Germans who must tighten their belts while Greeks and Portuguese complain that their government benefits are drying up. Europe doesn’t need unity. It also doesn’t need another major war.

        That said, the ruling elites there have imported millions of nonwhite, non-Europeans, and these “hate” speech laws are being used to stifle white criticism of their dispossession in their own native lands. I don’t hate Turks. When I was in Sydney, the guy who ran the Turkish counter at the food court at the “Randwick Royal” shopping center used to give me free food – whatever hadn’t sold well at the end of the day. That said, since we already have a Turkey, we don’t really need Turks in Germany. Discussion about immigration: “if”, “why” “wherefrom” and “how many” needs to be discussed in civilized nations.

        • LovelyNordicHeidi

          I do not think that you specifically needed to mention Hitler, but I agree with your points. Europeans have been quarreling among themselves for far too long, and we should have focused on the world outside of Europe. It is perhaps easy for Americans to see through the pedantic nature of those quarrels, but it is much and much harder for Europeans, as they are participants in those quarrels. You must however not underestimate the racial differences in Europe. The Germans are really different from the Slavs or French. If we try to ignore those differences, we are only agitating more conflicts among Whites. Native Europeans need to learn to focus their eyes on non-natives, and they need to protect the land that has been theirs for about 40 millenia. We do not want to be dispossed, and certainly not replaced. There is a dream of invulnerability that afflicts our people. They need to learn that we are very vulnerable, and that we need to form alliances with everyone who wants to protect the European peoples from aggressors, oppressors and invaders. The oppressive nature of Third World folks needs to be taken into account, like the oppressive nature of everyone else who is hostile to us. Even some blacks might be willing to help our cause. We need to look for exceptional people, not only the special people of our own race. The blacks who are seen as traitors among their own people can be our heroes. Help from blacks is however not an invitation for race mixing. We already have enough hybrids. The bargain with non-Whites must be that they do not abuse their special role among Whites.

          • “It is much harder for Europeans, as they are participants in those quarrels.”

            I noticed the same thing with chess when I was in federal prison. I used to like watching two other people play against each other, because since I was not involved, I saw lots of things both real players completely missed.

            Emotional detachment often makes for better analysis of a situation, though not always. The attitudes toward race and guns by Europe’s left have them blindsided by black and Muslim criminals.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “Emotional detachment often makes for better analysis of a situation, though not always. The attitudes toward race and guns by Europe’s left have them blindsided by black and Muslim criminals.”

            It is hard to be unemotional about something, but I noticed that my husband is better at it than me. You’re right that Europe is crippled because of its fear of talking about the race problem.

          • Max Krakah

            Nope, This is where you can not escape your female nature. Blacks, no black person, will ever be on our side. You are trying to be nice and “inclusive” It is a female trait, it is female thinking that we just can;t be mean, we just can’t count someone out because they are black. You came here with the picture of a blonde haired blue eyed female, and the very stereotypical name of Heidi. I knew you were a plant. Seduce and string along and then all of a sudden the whole applecart has to be unloaded.

          • Garrett Brown

            I think someone like Walter Williams can be on our side. Or at least support the idea of separate ethnostates. Which is all we would need him and people like him for.

          • LACounty

            Those that gave all those thumbs up to “Heidi” disrespected AmRens female members.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            How so?

          • Katherine McChesney

            *crickets*

            But, I DID notice how the mens behavior changed when Heidi entered the picture. High school behavior. All because one blonde who called herself “Lovely” entered the picture. There was some heavy-duty flirting going on there. I’d say the men who reacted to her in that manner exhibit juvenile behavior.

          • Garrett Brown

            All I did was welcome her. Who was getting googly eyed?

          • LACounty

            Research her comments and responses.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I agree. She should tell us who some of her influences are. She is short on that. No doubt.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            You’re right about that. I’ll make more effort to quote stuff.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Well, unless it rolled off your tongue in the moment, a response a week later probably would have no effect on their skepticism. And rightfully so.

            As I’ve said to Mergatroyd, LaGrand, LAcounty and others, if you have nothing to hide, it really doesn’t matter how many snakes are listening.

            I see it more as an opportunity. You can’t debate Liberals for one main reason: they are on the wrong side of history. That’s why you can never catch them out in the open and debate them on facts. They know they will lose every time. That’s why they slither in the background. Greasy snakes. All that’s left is dramatic tactics from carnival barkers.

            It’s a shame we’ll have to let the Left finish ruining this country before we can fix it.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            They can check me all they want. LACounty is reasonable when you talk with him on the race issue. Maybe I will appreciate him more when we talk more often. I have not spoken with Mergatroyd and LaGrand yet. I expect that it will be like talking with LACounty. As far as I know, LACounty has effectuated the truce on which we implicitly agreed. That does make me appreciate him more, and I do not know whether the skeptics will criticise me in a year or so, but I expect that they will change their mind. In any case, thanks for the insights, Andrew!

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yeah, there’s no down-side. It takes time.

          • LACounty

            “I’d say the men who reacted to her in that manner exhibit juvenile behavior.”
            Exactly. Remove the face and nick and there goes all the fawning. Juvenile behavior from the new “dude” and a few members.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Hey, is that me? I rank “new dude”? Woohoo!!

          • Garrett Brown

            You’re official now!

          • AndrewInterrupted

            That’s what om talkin’ ’bout!

          • LACounty

            Haha…no, sir. I was referring to Heidi.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Awww shucks.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Actually something different happened. I noticed young, European American females arriving here in the last few months. I also commented on the change in demographics here, as I came and went over the years. Heidi, funruffian, and ncPride all come to mind.
            Here is the significance. Young, white women were supposed to be brainwashed by the fully feminized education system. Yet, these 3 (to name just 3) have broken ranks. The ideological poison didn’t take. That is the significance. And I’ll bet the Demo-snakes who slink around this site also noticed the significance.
            They’re saying “We’re losing the young, white women. They were supposed to be ‘useful idiots’ until such time that we no longer needed them. Now they are thinking on their own–and won’t be pulling the ‘D’ lever for Hillary in 2016″.
            The older women had already picked up on that nuance and believe what they believe because they remember America at its greatest. These young people didn’t know the America we will be returning to, and yet they broke ranks.
            Do you see what I mean? The significance? The poison isn’t working. The Cultural Marxists are saying: “These young, white women appear to have developed anti-bodies against Hillarosis. What do we do now?? We need the young, white women ‘useful idiot’ vote. What do we do??”

          • Garrett Brown

            This. With so many women being influenced and brainwashed by today’s “higher education” system it is fantastic to see some who saw through the BS and became enlightened. Who seeks truth no matter where it leads, who thought for themselves,

          • AndrewInterrupted

            That is my point exactly. I was thrilled to see the influx of young people. That is critical. The ideological poison didn’t take. A pivotal moment. It’s a shame the reaction was misunderstood.

            My apologies to the wise elders. 😉

          • LACounty

            Female members here (and they know it and will tell you) don’t get the attention “LovelyNordicHeidi” and her pic do. Read Katherine McChesney’s responses for example.

          • Maybe. We will see.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “This is where you can not escape your female nature.”

            As I said, I would never trust non-Whites anyways. But yes, maybe it is a female blunder. Maybe I have been thinking in a too nice way, so I might have sinned. Anyways, I take back whatever I said about converting non-Whites to our cause. You have a point.

            “I knew you were a plant.”

            Be skeptical as long as you like, I am not going away, you will get used to me and whether you trust me or not, we will talk more about the race problem.

    • jane johnson

      Just a guess, but PC is more advanced there, i.e. hate speech laws, etc., and they are more “up close and personal” with diversity than we are, because of population density. They’re feeling the pinch more than we are because they have nowhere to run to. And they’re really p*ssed.

    • Lada Belyy

      We condition negatively. Tell us that we can’t have something, makes us want it more.

    • 1. European countries are mostly allusions to ethnic groups. So right from the jump, there’s an incentive to embrace ethnonationalism.

      2. Continental European political cultures and systems embrace multiple credible governing parties (“multiple” in this case means more than two). This creates a climate conducive to credible and sometimes successful EN parties.

      3. However, the downside to those political cultures is that when the left takes hold, they are unstoppable. This is why the legal cultures in those countries are officially repressive of white ENs. On the flip side, once our side starts winning, it will be able to make very rapid change back in the correct direction.

    • LeGrandDerangement

      It’s my opinion that in Europe they are more aware of a cultural cohesion, and the multiculti message comes from the government. I know from experience that there’s little cultural cohesion here, with the exception of this website. We don’t need government enforcement; we enforce vibrancy on each other.

  • Sick of it

    Took you a while to come to the same conclusions many of us have had for years, but I blame the widespread brainwashing. Welcome to Amren.

  • Truth Teller

    A major reason so many psychiatrists are Jews is that medicine was the most prestigious and wealthiest profession the 20th century. Also, for someone with the brains and endurance for medical school, it was really a sure fire,way into the elites. A lawyer can be anyone from a top law firm, country clubs, trophy home and family to a sleazy scum working out of his cell phone and kitchen table. But a Doctor is always respected.
    But medicine is physical labor. Physical labor is anathema to Jews. Better be a criminal or beggar than a carpenter, mechanic or factory worker.
    Psychiatry is the perfect profession for them. While sitting in an office all day listening to people talk, they got the money and prestige of being a Doctor of Medicine.

  • Talltrees

    “He and his brethren are the most race savvy gang to ever stride the face of this Earth, and it is not by ‘accident’ that so many of the names we see in the yellow pages of the phone book under the medical category of ‘psychiatry’ and/or ‘psychology’ just happen to share this fellow’s ethnic genealogy.”

    Are you saying Luntz is Jewish?

    He is German, both mother and father.

    • Brian

      Check the bottom of the wikipedia entry on him.

      • Talltrees

        My error. You are correct.

        “son of Phyllys (née Kelmenson) and Lester Luntz” Wikipedia

        Both surnames are German. Usually Wiki mentions if parents are Jewish, but I see it is listed in the photo box under ‘religion.’ Must be a Jewish name change to German. His Mother must be German, Father Jewish, since he doesn’t look Jewish at all. Hair is too light. Blue eyes.

        No mention anywhere on the net that the Luntz name could be Jewish. Very interesting.

        • Max Krakah

          There are many Jews with hair as blonde as Flash Gordon and who also have blue eyes.

          • Talltrees

            That’s true. DNA studies show many Ashkenazi Jews have 20-60% European ancestry.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Yes, West Hartford is equivalent to Little Israel.

          When a young man (long ago), I was rejected by a lovely leetle Yiddish goil from West Hartford. An early lesson on what it meant to be goyim/gentile.

          Oy!

    • bilderbuster

      He suffers from German White Guilt.

      • Talltrees

        I think he saw the forest and the trees, realizes little can be done, just as we do. Downtrodden, he walks away with his tail between his legs.

  • Brian

    Brazil also comes to mind.

  • Brian

    Right. Obama is both the result of what’s been happening, and a harbinger of more to come. If Luntz really thinks his depression can be blamed on one man or one election, he’s dumber than I thought.

  • Truth Teller

    Liberals have really attacked New Jersey Governor Christie for a recent traffic jam and the death of a patient in an ambulance stuck in the jam. Christie is often touted at the Republican presidential candidate for 2016.
    A member of the anti White, anti Christian tribe, Paul Fishman is United States attorney for that Northern New Jersey. He has decided that the traffic jam is some sort of federal crime and has opened a witch hunt investigation targeting Christie.
    How a traffic jam can be a federal offense and warrant a federal investigation is something only a facist Marxist liberal could come up with.
    Christie is a pro non White immigrant anti White American Republican. I detest them all. But if Luntz wants the Republican to continue to exist perhaps he should look to his tribal media.
    I think that the Republicans will be gone soon. I give them about 40 years.

    • Erasmus

      Let the democrats eat Christie. When he signed “The Dream Act,” he signed onto the leftists’ plan for the browning of America. No true conservative should lift a finger to help him now.

      Pity Christie didn’t have the good sense to ask Marco Rubio how well supporting illegal aliens did for his political career. A year and a half ago Rubio was touted as the hope for the GOP; now few will even give him the time of day.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I agree with Question Diversity, we have to stop talking about political parties. The Demo-rats are manufacturing voters through their refusal to enforce immigration laws. We will never be able compete with that Demo-rat creation machine. By fixating on political parties we condone a rigged system.

      All our efforts should be concentrated on a two-state-solution, like Israel/Palestine are doing. I can’t live in the same space as these sociopathic parasites any longer.

    • Laura Dilworth

      Luntz sold his consultant business. Now, Christie’s accused of using taxpayers’ money to buy a tourism ad w/his family (campaign) for disaster relief (last year-sandy)

      • AndrewInterrupted

        The Demo-rats are really pig-piling Christie.

        • Laura Dilworth

          they’re just warming up

      • Garrett Brown

        Four dead in Benghazi? A year later and we know nothing. Traffic jam in New Jersey? NATIONAL SCANDAL!

        • Laura Dilworth

          Obama’s above the law, dear

          • Richard Nixon thought he was as well.

          • Laura Dilworth

            well, he was a white republican. no one wants to be considered responsible for causing widespread rioting (for starters)

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Sadly middle class Americans do not stand up together and impeach that negro president…

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Now, that comment was a little suspicious. Now they have me thinking, Heidi. That sounded like race-baiting.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Sorry, but I meant it. I would prefer a White president to represent America. I should perhaps have said it more politely. Do you want me to modify/edit it?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I want to protect and promote European Americans, not denigrate other races.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            OK. Point taken. I did not mean to say it in a too negative way. I thought that “n**ger” would have been over the line.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            No hot words. Only positive, pro Euro-American words. Don’t make Racial MadCow’s job easy.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Positive words = polite words. That is how my parents educated me… I do like being positive/neutral. Being neutral just sounds more convincing. Prof. Kevin Macdonald should be my example then.

          • Garrett Brown

            You can use the word negro all you want lol.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Don’t give the Libs anything. All they have is spotlighting hot words. You make it easy for them.

            Ragey MadNow over at MSLSD has made a career on laser-focusing on hot words. Rush Limbaugh’s ‘slut’ comment, for example.

          • Garrett Brown

            I use negro publicly as well as many of my friends. I don’t care if a liberal hears me say it.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Why give them that?

          • Garrett Brown

            Give them what?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            A hot word they can use to distract & redirect–or anything they want. Why?

          • Garrett Brown

            If someone is appalled or embarrassed by the word negro or N***err that speaks for their own weakness of intelligence and inability to have a debate/discussion while using said words. If all they can say is “YOU’RE RACIST, YOU SAID NEGRO!” then I have won.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I think we should all review the enemy’s playbook–starting with Alinsky’s ‘Rule for Radicals’.

          • Garrett Brown

            Rules made by liberals are that of insanity, no thanks.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            How do you think Patton beat Rommel?

          • Garrett Brown

            I don’t really care lol. Politics don’t matter anymore.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            You’re bringing me down, GB.
            This board is on fire. Awesome.
            Later, brother.

          • Garrett Brown

            Not my intention, but you are a realist, correct? Realistically, we can’t gain anything anymore politically. You have to recognize that, especially after the 2012 election. That was our last chance.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I agree. I’m saying we have to carefully craft an escape from the parasites. You don’t give them any grist for their propaganda mill.

          • Garrett Brown

            I doubt much of what I say will have an effect on our goal. Money and numbers would be the determining factors.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Both of you have a point. Andrew’s libtard-friendly technique works for converting libtard folks who know nothing about the race issue, and Garrett’s technique has to do with honour and might convert very brave folks.

          • Garrett Brown

            I’m not much for converting, all you’re doing is banging your head against the wall. Like being politically active to try and change anti white legislation ,it doesn’t work anymore. I am all ethno statist now, voting is useless.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Got ya, but most of us were libtards once too, how about saving them?

          • Garrett Brown

            If people are that easily influenced and swayable, they will never be fully supportive of one particular movement. They are the sheep that you choose to protect with resources wasted or leave and pursue more important goals. I choose to leave them.

            Most people in the world are stupid correct? I hear that said by so many people, it’s common knowledge. And, they are correct. Proof? Look how many people post on this site and other pro white alternatives. The majority of people will follow whatever is in power and popular. I don’t see how we can save them.

            No doubt however, you can try. That makes you stronger willed and open minded than me in the subject.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            You can focus on the brave and strong! And others can focus on the middle class. I like the idea of focusing on the best, and it also interests me to ponder upon ways to get the broad masses of the people on our side. You have a tough attitude though, congrats.

          • Garrett Brown

            Going to all black schools with a few whites, in which most of those whites were brainwashed gave me little optimism. Since they were the majority, they were scared to think for themselves, some just too stupid. In America, whites will soon be the minority nationally. I can only think that what happened at my schools will happen everywhere else.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            My comment has been rendered libtard-friendly now, also rendering your downvote unnecessary.

            My parents allowed me to use “negro” only in private. For the rest I was not allowed to use any offensive words.

          • Laura Dilworth

            the citizens would, but not the powers that be

          • A report by Fox News today shows that the American middle class is disappearing. Maybe that’s why politicos think they simply don’t have to cater to this group anymore.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            “A report by Fox News today shows that the American middle class is disappearing. Maybe that’s why politicos think they simply don’t have to cater to this group anymore.”

            Thanks for the input!

  • Truth Teller

    Andrew interrupted
    I became a fan of National Review around 1980 because of its coverage of affirmative action. It was the only thing available for those of us whose lives and careers were being destroyed by affirmative action. NR also featured a column by Albert Shanker the national president of the Federation of Teachers. Shanker was from New York city and knew all about black savage behavior in the schools. His columns spoke truth to power about the behavior of blacks in school.
    So I loved National review.
    And then Buckley must have mortgaged the magazine and his yacht and mansion in Greenwich to the tribe. By the 1990’s it was nothing but a part of the government of Israel propaganda machine.
    I’m a woman and a radical White nationalist. I make great efforts to support White men. For instance, my accountant, attorney and Drs are all White American men. And believe me, it is difficult to find White American Drs and dentists in California..
    I never cease to talk about affirmative action . I find that White Americans are in favor of affirmative action and justify black on White crime. But the White immigrants who have taken over Los Angeles have the same opinion of blacks as I do. When they or their children are turned down for a job or college admission I just tell them outright, it’s because you are White.
    When I was younger men were always coming on to me. So I would let them talk and when they asked for a date I would ask them what they thought of affirmative action.
    They assumed I was in favor of affirmative action because I am a woman. When they would say they were in favor of affirmative action Ii would just blast them. as enemies of Whites in general and me in particular.
    One guy was a Judge. As soon as he told me he was a Judge I blasted the occupation of Judge as the enemies of Whites because of school desegregation, busing, destruction of cities, black on White crime and affirmative action. he kept telling me that he never ruled on those things, he was just a county court judge. But I told him that since the judges ruled that all Whites should be subject of affirmative action, then all Judges
    should be subjected to retribution someday for their discrimination against Whites, deaths and injuries due to judicial approved black on White crime, the destruction cities and the school system, illegal immigrants etc.
    There seem to be a lot of old testament Christians on this site. The tribe calls them fundamentalist. Fundamentalist old testament Christians should subscribe to tribal publications and find out what Foxman and other tribal organizations and spokespersons really think of Fundamentalist old testament Christians..

    • AndrewInterrupted

      That’s an interesting life story. I’ve met very few conservative women. They tend to all be default feminists. I hail from New England, though.

      Like Andrew Breitbart, I’m not religious. I long to find a secular, fiscal conservative website that cleanly separates church from state. To me, the two categories, fiscal conservatism and religion, are mutually exclusive.

      Yes, National Review took a turn for the worst in the 90’s. Maybe about the time it went to NRO? I remember watching Buckley on TV as a kid. He had an unusual accent and delivery. Like Andrew Breitbart, I popped out of a Liberal mold and have been remolding myself ever since.

      The words ‘Affirmative Action’ are never uttered at federal contractors. Verboten. Only the subterfuge cousin Diversity & Inclusion gets spoken. Some of the so-called training videos make the hair stand up on the back of your neck. “Did she really say that?” During one of many indoctrination sessions one Cultural Marxist, social engineering talking-head once uttered the words: “You should calculate your diversity value”. God as my witness. I said “Calculate what?!”

      Those people are as crazy as they are evil.

  • TXCriollo

    We all were mad about the last election, but its over we need to move on. Frank found out that his focus groups didn’t work now he wont make the money he did, I think that’s what he is really depressed about. The republican party has no back bone on a national level, yes in states like Texas and Utah they do, but overall there really becoming something else. Now the demorats are setting them selves up for a big surprise, with the nation going broke and people who pay into the system are less and less there multi color system is gonna start to fight each other for who can get the last of the scraps. Frank should have asked what will minorities on welfare do when whites stop paying?

  • Dr. Möbias

    Excellent analysis and post.
    When Luntz complained about (White) people as, “contentious and argumentative. They didn’t listen to each other as they once had. They weren’t interested in hearing other points of view.”

    I have a feeling he was hearing what Whites really thought about losing their country and those Whites he talks about had had enough with all the multiculturalism and diversity Luntz types have shoved down our throats.

    Also, I’m surprised your very important comment is still standing.

    • Of course white people are contentious and argumentative. It produces better results. For instance, we have two major companies that build programmable calculators: Hewlett-Packard and Texas Instruments. A non-white or a socialist nut-job would call this a waste of effort, but the competition results in a better product for the consumer.

      • Anna Tree

        Actually one theory about the success of Europe over China is that European countries were (are) competitive between each others while China didn’t and still not, brew competition.

        Competition is one other skill/tool that the leftist system is erasing in our schools/children… 🙁

  • Mergatroyd

    “But beneath the surface, he says, is a roiling turmoil that threatens to consume him.”

    Well, that’s good. Maybe old Frank isn’t hearing the kind of answers he wants and that’s what’s giving him a headache. And maybe those people who are ranting and raving are RIGHT and you and your kind are WRONG about everything.

    “They weren’t interested in hearing other points of view.”

    What were those “points of view,” Frankie? Were they not giving the right answers about Obamacare, massive Third World immigration, or Section 8 housing for blacks going up near their children’s school? What? Inquiring minds would like to know.

    • Garrett Brown

      Frank cares about the “American” people. What he doesn’t realize is there are hardly any left! Well stated Merga.

  • LovelyNordicHeidi

    Just a general note (after reading more comments like that of Dr. Mobias): If some of you really don’t like me, then no offense taken. Just tell me what you really want, and I’ll do it. I mean, if you really think I am your enemy, what then? I don’t care what people think about me, I appreciate your openness. Now be open with me, just tell me what to do. You can warn others, but you can also say to me what you want of me. I am not here to play games, I am not here to be demonised and it is also a fact that I am much less experienced than any of you. I hope that we can make a bargain: watch me all you want, correct me all you want, show me the way all you want, but do not demonise me nor try to play games with me, I am not here for that kind of stuff. I would not have been so determined to stay if Question Diversity had not said to me “You should probably develop a thick skin”, and besides, you would never have known the truth if I left like a coward. The truth motivates me more right now than being tough. But tell me what you think about a bargain, and please comment below. Although a bargain is in my opinion the best thing that I can offer you, you might have other solutions.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      What if some of us love you?

    • Katherine McChesney

      Heidi I welcome you. But, I question WHY you labelled yourself as “Lovely”. It presents an air of vanity and flirtatiousness. It worked. The men went ‘gaga’ over you. I am a bit suspicious of you and your reason for being here. Are you here for male attention?

      • LovelyNordicHeidi

        Katherine McChesney: “Are you here for male attention?”

        Answered this question several times. I can just quote my answer: “I do not appreciate guys “hitting on me”. Being nice is fine, but anyone should know how to keep his distance, because I am happily married.”

        Katherine McChesney: “Heidi I welcome you.”

        Thanks for welcoming me, though.

        • LACounty

          “I do not appreciate guys hitting on me.” Not true. If that is/was your intent, you wouldn’t be presenting yourself the way you do. You know what you’re doing.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            LACounty: “You know what you’re doing.”

            You can interpret my words however you like. I do not care. I meant what I said.

          • Garrett Brown

            And with this response it should be the end of the dialogue between you and LACounty. He obviously has a biased opinion of you and is going to think what he wants to think (you told him you were happily married and he still thinks you’re an internet slut) so just ignore the foolishness and move on.

          • LACounty

            Wrong. I never suggested she’s an internet slut. I’m suggesting that some men here are a little too trusting of a pic and a nick. I didn’t expect that from anyone here.

          • Garrett Brown

            You don’t have to suggest it, you implied it vehemently.

          • LACounty

            No. I’m suggesting some members can be too trusting and drawn in based on a nick and a pic. That is all. That’s what surprised me. Other female members here haven’t gotten anywhere near the response.

          • Garrett Brown

            You suggested that as well as Heidi revealing too much of her identity. Along with “Not true. If that is/was your intent, you wouldn’t be presenting yourself the way you do. You know what you’re doing.”, emphasis on “you know what you’re doing” implied she just goes to random sites and whores herself for attention. Other female posters aren’t 23 years old, don’t be so ignorant.

          • LACounty

            Yeah. And then again, some weaker members fall for the bull. I even think “Heidi” might be a guy. Possibly nowhere near 23.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            We’ll see.

            In the meantime let’s not discourage the individual. If she’s legit, we’ve got a critical demographic jumping ship. If she’s George Soros, then we educated him on what it means to be an American.

            There’s no downside.

          • LACounty

            Agreed.

          • Garrett Brown

            The weak members would be the ones critiquing someone’s grammar and avatar even though she’s typed some of the most meaningful and pro white comments in this thread.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            LACounty: “for something less sexual”

            Just like the libtards call us “racists” or “nazis”, you accuse me of looking “sexual” (or would new terminology like “sexualist” be more appropriate to describe a woman from now on?). You see how simplistic/meaningless that is?

            LACounty: “too trusting of a pic and a nick”

            Respect and trust can be earned by what one says, not by one’s appearance. My “appearance” is neither an advantage nor disadvantage, no matter how you describe/interpret me. I am just myself, and you are being yourself when you have a nic “LA County” and no pic. If you deny that respect and trust are earned by one’s sayings, and say that everything is earned by one’s nic and pic, it is obvious that the sentiment of jealousy guides you in this matter. I am quite certain that you are a skilled writer on the race problem, and it is unfortunate that you are concerned with a trivial nic and pic while you should be concerned with making a deal with me about how we can get along. I will take a look at your posts on the race problem tomorrow, and I trust that we can have a reasonable truce for the time being. Demonising each other doesn’t help our cause.

          • LACounty

            Point taken.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Does discouraging (possible) young people seem like a good idea to you?

      • LACounty

        Excellent response. This is the level of maturity we should expect from men and women on Amren. Thanks, Katherine. Some guys can’t see the obvious.

    • LACounty

      It has nothing to do with anyone liking or not liking you. I’m more disturbed with the members falling over you. They are losing my trust. Females posting here have to be doing the same along with the male members that can also see it.
      “Just tell me what you really want, and I’ll do it.” Thanks. Ditch the nick and the pic for something less sexual. If you do, you’ll get more respect and trust. If you don’t it means you’re not willing to do what it takes to make this a better site, and remove doubt of your intent here.

      • Anna Tree

        Funnily enough, I ponder more about Heidi’s “Just tell me what you really want, and I’ll do it.” bothers me more although I can get that she is getting tested from a few sides right now and maybe she just wants to stay. Well… she does have a thick skin, I wouldn’t have make it if it was me aged 23.

        Someone, who seem to be a respected member, had say once a worse thing or pretty close (in my eyes: if I understand correctly the baggage of the world in the English-speaking world) to all the things thrown at Heidi in this whole thread. The thing I did was to thank him and leave the conversation. I wonder now if he was testing me LOL (unless it is because I came in the middle of a tense exchange, if it is because of that then I do now feel sorry, I am learning too)

        So Heidi, don’t take it too personally. If it is you in the pic, keep it but maybe indeed, change the nickname, to align with the seriousness of the site.
        (LACounty, I choose my pink pic to show there are racialist women, so Heidi’s pic could play the same role maybe?)

        • LACounty

          Well said. Heidi has to gain our trust. Sometimes new members are not what they appear to be. Yes, perhaps someone got angry at you because you entered amidst a heated exchange. Take care.

    • Garrett Brown

      Some guys on here are anti anything that has to do with women. Even long time members who post some of the most pro white thoughts and opinions are ostracised. Try not to take offense so easily and keep posting.

      • Anna Tree

        I do think some Amrener men have lost trust with white women. I don’t
        blame them. That’s why I didn’t answer further that gentleman with the
        cursing (see my previous post): I respect their wounds and the healing needed. I do hope those wounds regarding white women can heal.
        We need each others big time in the fight. Let me rephrase:

        1) We white women need white men big time in the fight that is coming (I still hope for no fight but sadly what other option is there left). We white women need more white racialist men that it seems there are. So every one of them is a treasure.
        2) They white racialist men will need eventually white women. White racialist women could be better but in the long run, any white women will be fine.

        • Garrett Brown

          Good post Anna, I agree 100%

          It’s very hard to find a good white woman these days, that is true. I have not lost all trust of them, just a significant amount.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            And those you don’t trust are the ones feeding at the entitlement trough. Hillary’s false victims.

          • Garrett Brown

            Mudsharks? Yah they’re pretty disgusting.

  • Who Me?

    That last sentence was written just to make everybody here ill, right? Trayvonica–barf…

    • Katherine McChesney

      Perhaps they could name a prison for Trayvon.

  • MarcB1969

    He is being disingenuous in this interview. If he were honest, he would state that his disillusionment stems from the the US transitioning from a majority White country with shared values of liberty to a polyglot nation filled with large numbers of the citizenry with an antithetical view. Don’t think a guy like Frank Luntz doesn’t know what is happening demographically. His feeling of disconnect in this emerging low social capitol America is shared by large numbers of White Americans who miss the cohesive nation the US once was.

  • hionthemountain

    From what I’ve been reading from our Negro counterparts that them folks do not identify with the America as our parents did or do . . they have feelings similar to the angry indigenous indian . . .
    So I have no doubt the USA will inherit some other name from what is now in the not so distant future .. . Alas, I probably will not be around . . . so I will have to observe from hell

  • LeGrandDerangement

    LBJ wasn’t a Northerner. Nor is Bubba Clinton nor the Bushes.

  • LovelyNordicHeidi

    Link to more videos like this one!

  • LovelyNordicHeidi

    Perfect answer. I will read Rules for Radicals.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Andrew Breitbart called Obama the first (Saul) Alinsky president. He spoke often of the Alinsky-based tactics. They follow a template. Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals is the foundation, but they have evolved (or better, devolved).

      What bothers me most about the Right is that even when they uncover the Left’s playbook they don’t know how to read it. They make so many tactical and strategic mistakes. It’s very frustrating.

      • LovelyNordicHeidi

        “They make so many tactical and strategic mistakes. It’s very frustrating.”

        Intercept my “tactical and strategic mistakes” if you happen to see some. Educating people is, I guess, the best that we can do to make our tactics and strategy better.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          What is your critique on Rules for Radicals?

          You’ve probably heard the expression: The-race-to-the-bottom?

          Alinsky’s rules are the blueprint for that race. It’s the Left’s holy book of sleaze.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Have you seen how badly the Green Party has been co-opted by the feminists? What does green have to do with feminism?

  • Dr. Möbias

    Better: Use two.