A Look at What SAT Report on Camden Means

Julia Terruso, Philadelphia Enquirer, December 22, 2013

A statistic released by the Camden School District—that three out of about 882 high school seniors scored “college ready” on the SAT in 2012—sparked criticism and questions from education advocates last week.

The number, based on state performance reports from the 2011-12 school year, uses the College Board’s college-readiness parameter score of 1550 out of 2400 on math, reading and writing.

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While only the three students—one at Camden High School and two at Brimm Medical Arts High School—scored 1550 or higher, only 42 percent of Camden High School seniors took the test. Nationally, 43 percent of students met the benchmark.

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The College Board said its 1550 score is associated with a 65 percent probability of obtaining a first-year average of B-minus or higher, and is based on a sample of student performance at four-year colleges.

“If a student does not meet the SAT benchmark score of 1550, it does not mean he or she can’t or won’t be successful in college,” the College Board said in a news release. “It means that students who do not achieve a score of 1550 on the SAT have less than a 65 percent probability of achieving a first-year GPA of B-minus or higher.”

Nationally, 46 percent of students who did not meet the SAT benchmark enrolled in a four-year college, compared with 78 percent of students who scored 1550 or higher.

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Low SAT performance in Camden is not reserved for public schools. At LEAP Academy Charter, where 98 percent of students took the SAT, no students met the benchmark. At Camden Academy Charter High School, only 6 percent of SAT-takers in a senior class of 97 met the benchmark.

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[Editor’s Note: According to the 2010 Census, Camden is 47 percent Hispanic, 44 percent black, and 5 percent white.]

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  • Only 3 of 882 were deemed “college ready.” I’ve heard of talented tenth, but Camden only has a talented third of one percent.

    1550 on a test whose top score is 2400 doesn’t seem to be very high.

    • William Krapek

      “1550 on a test whose top score is 2400 doesn’t seem to be very high.”

      It can’t possibly be. I think this confirms what I’d been hearing for years: black people top off at about 8th grade and can’t get beyond that. I doubt Mexicans are much better.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        1550 out of 2400
        —–
        I see they have reconjiggered the thing. They do that every so often in hopes it will “fix the problem”.

        Never works for more than it takes for people to figger out what’s happened.

        • Bob

          That’s just too much math to figure out how much is “reconjiggered” …lol, Can’t help it, you just killed me on that one lol!…

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yeah, in “ejumucayshun” reconjiggering numbers generally buys a little time for those trying to make it to retirement so they don’t have to try to answer any real questions.

            And trying to remain honest just gets you fired, so…

            Slap that square root times ten curve on all their classwork and make it to happy acres in one piece baby!

          • Rhialto

            Sheeyeeut! Squay roots be raciss, Ya M.F.ing honkey nazzy!

        • GeneticsareDestiny

          Yes, they added a writing section. I took it; it wasn’t very difficult. But I doubt it’s doing much to add to the scores of blacks. People with high verbal IQs are the main beneficiaries and blacks don’t have high IQs of any kind, on average.

        • MikeofAges

          1550 out of 2400 equates to an IQ of about 110. Adequate for college, if you have the skills otherwise. But stay away from particle physics, you hear.

      • 1stworlder

        Well when they are 18yo in 8th grade they cant top out much farther. You can stay in school till you are 21 at the beginning of the school year. Mexicans are at least smarter than blacks

        • MystiKasT

          Blacks are the dumbest by far. We all agree on that.

          • Brian

            Among Americans, yes. Globally, the Australian Abos are even worse than pure USDA GRIME sub-Saharans. Let the mind percolate on that for a moment! Imagine how ‘rayciss’ the SAT would become if Camden schools were full of aborgines. [shudder]

          • Joe blow

            They are…

      • Max Krakah

        but blacks are so narcissistic that they believe their people created all of civilization.

        • Katherine McChesney

          They also say they ‘created’ the White race and that they were considered the ‘crazy people’.

      • MystiKasT

        Most blacks in philadelphia / camden, etc. cannot read or write beyond a middle-school level

      • One gets 600 points just for signing one’s name and turning in a blank test form (this is so even if one gets every question wrong, a negative score is still impossible).

    • I made an estimate of of 0.4% on Twitter after I read this story elsewhere.
      It contained no numbers other than that Camden had 13K PS students.
      I based my estimate on 750 seniors (25% drop out ratio).

    • Erasmus

      Plus, there’s no mention of the race of those talented 3.
      (I’m going to wager none of them looks like a son or daughter of Obama.)

      • At Camden HS, where one senior was college ready, the demographics are 77% black, 23% Hispanic.

        At Brimm Medical Arts HS, it’s 68% black, 30% Hispanic, 2% Asian.

        I suspect that are hardly any whites in the Camden district, even though the city’s population itself is 5% white. Probably old timers who won’t or can’t leave.

        • MystiKasT

          Why do whites flee black neighborhoods? Don’t they like diversity?

          • Katherine McChesney

            Danger.

    • Max Krakah

      probably asian kids

    • dd121

      It’s simple and obvious. Blacks can’t be educated and they can’t be civilized.

      • MystiKasT

        Well said and that is the truth. Integration has not worked. Blacks have shown they cannot function in a civilized society.

    • withcaution

      3 out of 882 sounds like the number one might get if the test takers totally guessed at the questions. Therefore it’s possible none passed the test. Government; “We better double are investment.”, “Good money after bad WTF does that mean?”

  • bigone4u

    The editor’s note at the end explains the entirely predictable results of trying to educate blacks and Hispanics, who for the most part are not capable of learning much beyond a fifth or sixth grade level. The national delusion, foisted on us by libtards, is that they are capable of learning, while offering the usual excuses: white racism, not enough money being spent, legacy of slavery, etc. Inner city blacks are stupid, stupid, stupid, and a policy that denies that is doomed to permanent failure, while draining the public treasury of resources best used on something else. Whites must rebel agains this nonsense.

    • MystiKasT

      I don’t have an issue with hispanics or any other race, aside from blacks. Blacks are violent, viscious savages who only live in the moment — they are stupid and violent, they are a problem that must be dealt with

    • newscomments70

      Low IQ students of all races should have some rudimentary education to prepare them for low level service jobs. Anyone can excel at their own level and make a decent living. The problem is that they don’t have to work; furthermore our justice system is a joke. If we introduce zero tolerance and eliminate welfare, we can achieve this goal.

      The liberals’ hysterical obsession with higher education for low IQ students reminds me of the 1960s fictional novel, “Flowers for Algernon”. The medical fiction novel was based on the life of a mentally retarded person. The story began with the man’s childhood. The mother was devastated to have produced a mentally retarded child. She was hysterical and obsessed with making him “normal”. She believed that with extra lessons and training, he could become normal. The father, who was realistic about the situation, told her to stop teaching him “dog tricks”. “He can never understand, just accept him the way he is.” The mother’s anger and obsession kept increasing, and she kept pushing harder…but nothing happened. When the boy grew into a teenager, he left home and worked a low level job at a bakery. He worked hard, made enough to pay rent, and he was fine. The mother disowned him about of shame and embarrasment. The mother in “Flowers for Algernon” reminds me of liberals.

  • MekongDelta69

    And the race of those three are…???

    • Katherine McChesney

      Probably WHITE. Censored again by the leftist press.

      • Pro_Whitey

        If they are white, they gots guts to deal with all the crud they would face in that school. Because of what I am almost certain would be intense bullying and outright mayhem directed at any white students, I find it hard to believe those students are white.

  • Tarczan

    What is the black school trumped up by the libs that has 100% of its students attending college? The problem is, they do equally poorly on the SATs.

  • Ella

    So what happened to the vocational courses so they can learn a basic trade or skill? We don’t even need 50% of the students who attend college in reality since only 25-35% of jobs require college-level education. Libs just want to TAX and SPEND with no end to protect their own jobs.

    • withcaution

      College income fuels the payroll for the scores of angry dykes and gays as well as other malcontents with an agenda that all suck of the college tit.

  • Erasmus

    Yow. In light of these test results Je$$e Jack$on’s claims that Cambridge and Oxford would benefit from having more blacks in their student bodies even funnier.

    • MystiKasT

      Blacks are so funny. They rarely if ever, earn anything. Everything they have is given to them. They whine whine whine and never accomplish.

      • Non Humans

        Funny is not the adjective I would use. “Pathetic” is much more fitting.

        • They would be “funny” if their congenitally dysfunctional behavior was occurring on the moon, rather than in Europe and North America.

        • Erasmus

          Pathetic and bathetic.

          Watching lefties throw our tax money at “problems” that can’t be solved is pathetic. The seriousness with which they take themselves as they continue to wallow in the mire is bathetic.

          • Thanks for the word.
            ba·thet·ic (b-thtk)
            adj.
            Characterized by bathos. See Synonyms at sentimental.
            [Probably blend of bathos and pathetic.]

            ba·thos (bths, -thôs)
            n.
            1.
            a. An abrupt, unintended transition in style from the exalted to the commonplace, producing a ludicrous effect.
            b. An anticlimax.
            2.
            a. Insincere or grossly sentimental pathos: “a richly textured man who . . . can be . . . sentimental to the brink of bathos” (Kenneth L. Woodward).
            b. Banality; triteness.

      • Joe blow

        The New York cops refer to them as “Moon Crickets”, eg. “They come out at night, make a lot of noise, and don’t do much of anything”.

  • Spartacus

    Were they White, or did they cheat ?

  • JohnEngelman

    Gradually the truth leaks out.

  • Rhialto

    1-Note the Liberal obsession with college: HS has failed, if the graduatee does not attend a college.

    2-An IQ of 110 is the minimum for which schooling beyond HS will be of much use to a students productivity. This does not apply to technical training.

    3-The names of these areas of education are an example of “saying may make it so’: Brimm Medical Arts High School, LEAP Academy Charter, and Camden Academy Charter High School.

  • Extropico

    The White majority in Camden should be ashamed at themselves for oppressing the people of color.

    • MystiKasT

      Actually, the whites are blessed to live in such a diverse neighborhood as Camden. Now they can be raped and robbed at the SAME time! Diversity, yay!

      • ben no

        😉 😉

    • ben no

      😉

  • Max Krakah

    DNA, “D” “N” “A”

  • Max Krakah

    we’d be better off to take the money spent on education in places like camden, and use it to build a brick wall around the place, and top it with razor wire.

  • CoweringCoward

    Those were Asians or whites.

    • Alec Smart

      Or at least mixed race.

      Funny how the media would never let that fact out if those 3 kids were not black.

  • Stan D Mute

    Wow George, that’s just swell. Non sequitur much?

    • shmo123

      Someone should notify the people at Ripley’s Believe it or Not, so they can put it in the next issue.

    • withcaution

      Ah done dated a non squirter once, she be alright udderwize.

  • deadindenver

    and?

  • www [dot] youtube [dot] com/watch?v=PgJpaTAgPkA

  • Stan D Mute

    I didn’t click through to see if this original included the fact that Camden spends $23,000 per pupil per year on its “schools.”

    That’s premier private college prep school money there. Some of the absolute best schools in America are run on $20,000-$25,000/yr tuitions. And most of the absolute best public schools operate on less than $23,000/yr per pupil.

    Hmm. Detroit Public Schools also spends around $15,000/yr/kid while Grand Blanc Schools spends around $9500. And Bloomfield Hills Schools spends just a hair more than Detroit at $18,700/yr/pupil. Also however note that Detroit receives around $4500/yr/thug from the Federal government while Bloomfield receives nothing. All get around the same from the State of Michigan. Differences are based on local tax revenues.

    I’m not seeing an identifiable trend here. Gosh, if spending does not equal performance, what possible other differences could there be to account for the Grand Canyon sized chasm between these schools?

    • Max Krakah

      well,the teachers and administrators need to perm their hair,k buy fake nails, buy bling, buy designer clothes and nice cars.

      • Stan D Mute

        Perm their hair or BUY their hair from Indian hair farms?

        • Katherine McChesney

          Don’t they need ‘grills’?

        • Max Krakah

          well take your pic, probably “bofe”

    • William_JD

      Spending $23,000 per pupil means you can pay teachers $400,000 per year, so yeah tat’s a ludicrous amount to spend.

  • Max Krakah

    why is it sad. Do you think it is sad that a monkey can not read a book?Do you think it is sad that a chimpanzee does not have the manual dexterity to write?It is only sad if you expect a monkey and a chimpanzee to be something other than what they are. It is only sad if you expect creatures to all be the same. All creatures are not the same. They create different worlds. Camden, detroit, phildadelphia, they are the kind of world those creatures create. OR to be more precise, those are places that those creatures are reforming to look just like where they came from.

    • BonusGift

      Well put; it is what it is.

  • Anone

    The SAT…..the red headed step child of the IQ test. Having failed utterly to come up with a test for intelligence (IQ is a yes/no test for mental deficiency, not intelligence), they rename the elusive trait “scholastic aptitude” and then fail miserably to distinguish those who will do well in school from those who won’t. Seriously, the test is a joke.

    The test only really exists because it is so hard to find schools with integrity anymore. Straight up. Did you take the classes in all the subjects considered a standard High School education? Understand that, such a thing is more standardized then ever before. There are at least a dozen systems out there, all with more or less the same content.

    A person who studies these and learns them well enough to do well on legitimate tests of that knowledge is college material. ANY college material. No….the various colleges, on the average undergraduate level are no more difficult or advanced or provide much more of anything whether it is Michigan State University or MIT. Ah yes…MIT….where every year, students leap to their death because real life has taught them they are not the geniuses they thought they were.

    How bad is this? Well….almost all employers know your undergrad degree is worthless. And, should you seek a technology degree, the chances of getting a job in that field are remote. A biology major might get a job as an entry level chemical engineer. A comp sci geek will probably start out in business administration or fielding tech assist calls from morons until they find him hanged in the men’s room.

    And no one gets a bigger laugh over all this then people like me…..who once had a career in such testing. It’s bull…..all of it.

    My advice? Go to school wherever you will never see a negro….ever. Two years before you graduate high school, study which fields are paying well…especially overseas. Do two years community college, drinking beer at home. Two years at some random college, screwing babes while drinking more beer. Then marry one and go to grad school. If you are truly hard core….get training in the military in something esoteric. I have a friend….total moron. Total MORON, signed up for Desert Storm. But he was so frigging fat, they had no idea what to do with him. SO they trained him to maintain the lasers on some of the advanced munitions. Replacing lasers, btw is alot like replacing batteries in toys.

    People paid him a six figure income after he got out to drive around in a van and replace these things in doctors offices and the like. Why? Because no one else certifies for that stuff. How it must gall the high end specialist doctors to know this guy makes more than them, with his greasy pants and wad of chewing tobacco.

  • Brian

    Gloria Bonilla Santiago, founder of LEAP, which says it has a 100
    percent graduation and college acceptance rate, called the test “a
    class-biased instrument particularly unreliable for minority students
    from low-income backgrounds.”
    ===
    I suppose they can graduate everyone no matter what– what does that prove? And some for-profit diploma mill will take any applicant’s federally-backed loan $. So what. Santiago claims the SAT is unreliable. It sounds pretty accurate to me, when none of the Future Criminals of America score decently.

    • MikeofAges

      English translation: Gloria Gorilla Santiago want the high test scores of any lower middle class, working class and poverty stricken whites not to count. Under the bus, Gus. Is there anything new here? This story is a lifetime old already.

  • ShermanTMcCoy

    Perhaps you could ask it to explain statistics to you?

  • MystiKasT

    3 out of 882 blacks are ‘college ready’ – the majority cannot read, write, or do basic arithmetic (12 x 12 = 144). Yes they are the same as us. Equality not segregation! We white people, asian people, and indian people must dumb ourselves down to be equal to the blacks. DON’T BE RACIST! STOP ACTING WHITE! PROUD2LUVBLACKPPL!!

  • MystiKasT

    I thought whites and blacks were equal? After half a century of shoveling billions of dollars into the black community, you think there’d be something to show for it; besides crime, robbery, rape, drug corners, etc.

  • MystiKasT

    …and your point is? 1 Black having a perfect SAT score makes up for 1 million that rob rape and steal — how, again?

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    It IS an astounding waste of money. But don’t forget that private and charter schools have the ability to immediately kick out students who are miscreants or lower the school’s test scores.

    Public schools, must, by law, take in everyone regardless of behavior, IQ or reading level. I’ve received students with court orders from judges to allow them back into regular classrooms after expulsion from a public school. (Expulsion is almost impossible to do against any student no matter what he did).

    The two systems cannot be compared.

    I once was forced to watch a film about a “remarkable” charter school in urban Chicago that was doing “amazing” things with inner-city blacks. Well, it stated in the film that the school had an incredible admissions policy, it didn’t take “all comers,” only one in 14 after a long winnowing process (I’m sure they looked at police records and test scores before making their choices).

    We in the public schools were supposed to get the message that THIS could be done in regular schools too. When I pointed this out during the discussion after the film, you would have thought I was wearing white robes or a Nazi uniform by the reaction I received from the rest of the audience.

    Because the dogma is that ALL students have equal capability to learn, and if they don’t, it’s somehow the teacher’s fault.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    A White kid at my daughter’s high school received perfect SAT scores. He was also the Valedictorian of the school. As his required service to the community, he began a swimming program for blind children.

    No recognition. His name wasn’t in the papers or on the TV, even locally. No full scholarships offered. Nothing except a speech at graduation. No one in the media even noticed or cared, which is typical when Whites achieve.

    He was rejected by ALL of the Ivies and Stanford in California — although I did hear later that Yale accepted him from a waiting list. He wondered what it is did wrong to not get accepted. He didn’t realize that he did nothing wrong, he was merely the wrong color.

    He ended up at UC Berkeley and majored in finance. My daughter told me he left for Wall Street after graduation after he was hired by a large financial institution located there.

    Frankly, I don’t give a damn about what blacks do or don’t do, that is for THEIR people to decide. I only care about Whites and White children so stop posting that here, this is what? About the third time I’ve seen you post that.

    • MikeofAges

      He must have lacked vibrancy.

  • Stan D Mute

    @observer – perhaps you should “observe” the meaning of “non sequitur” before you post one in reply to me calling out another one.

    And, for some strange reason, I am completely unsurprised by your admission of failure to make a perfect SAT score. I am only left to wonder at your many other failures. Please don’t take this the wrong way, our side needs foot soldiers and I’m glad to have you. But maybe if you don’t understand something you should leave it for those who do or try some learning before typing?

  • This just means that even for a pack of dim-wits they are underachievers. This might have something to do with the fact that (as of yet) the SAT does not test on one’s dope-smoking and gang-rape skills.

    • Whitetrashgang

      See racism in action, I am glad you caught that.

  • Grantland

    Without the mulattoes and the talented tenth (who move out of the ghetto), the true mean IQ of these yoofs is probably closer to the African average – ~70.

    • Whitetrashgang

      Is that 70 or minus 70? Probably makes a difference.

    • Max Krakah

      I read somewhere that that is in fact the median IQ for inner city, ghetto blacks.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      Also, how long has it been since an IQ study has been done on black Americans? If it’s been a long time, the old estimates might be a bit off for the school-age population. Dysgenic breeding has been standard for decades now.

  • Pennsylvania probably also has unicorns as well.

  • Ironically, Camden has an excellent university in the form of Rutgers.

    • MikeofAges

      The primary and historic Rutgers campus is in New Brunswick, NJ. The Camden campus is a small comprehensive university. The student body is maybe 2/3 white (further breakdown unknown) about 1/8 black and 1/16 Hispanic. Camden also has a branch of the former Glassboro State College, now Rowan University. Rowan’s Camden campus is limited in scope, but Rowan itself has a typical comprehensive state college curriculum including engineering. Rowan also operates a medical school located in Camden.

  • Katherine McChesney

    Blacks are dumber. White voters are deceived.

    • newscomments70

      So many people wanted to prove that they are not racist….that phenomena is starting to die out as reality sets in.

  • ben no

    He was exceptional you must realize that.

  • negrolocaust

    Some teens took to Twitter to brag about the trashing the mall.

    “Kings Plaza was on tilt today,” Ray Rat Sextana wrote on Facebook.

    Another teen, Mark Wallace, added, “Sh-t was crazy at Kings Plaza. So
    the security started shutting down the mall and kicking all teens out
    but it was so much of us they couldn’t get control.”

  • Ella

    I thought it was a type-o at first when I read the 24K costs. You can send a child to a parochial school for that price tag. So, how much of the 24k are federal tax monies????

  • Every Urban Prep students gets a sKolaship every year.
    Average ACT score was 17 last year.
    So for every 20 that got a sKolaship, a 14 got one.

  • Max Krakah

    Pretty much all blacks are extremely narcissistic, whites are much more prone to be too self conscious and self critical, to the point of neurosis.

  • Max Krakah

    no, it seems too high.

  • Max Krakah

    No,it is not silly, blacks do not have the same abilities as whites. They do not have the same reading abilities, they do not have the same math abilities,they do not have the same reasoning abilities, they have no capacity for abstract thought , they do not have the same fine motor skill abilities. You will never have an apple computer plant that makes iPhones that has black workers. They physically can not do the fine work required.
    IT is a blatant refusal to acknowledge reality to expect blacks to perform as whites do , to value what whites value, to work the way whites do, to save and strategize the way whites do. IT is the same as expecting a monkey to be able to read or write. Just because blacks can perform better than a monkey, that does not mean they can per for as good as whites.

  • obot

    There’s always African American Studies.

  • Fathercoughlin

    “Only 3 students met the test of college readiness…” In other news,three students were brutally beaten today…

  • Fathercoughlin

    Sad that harworking whites have to fork over gazillions in taxes for this dog & pony show of pretending to “edjumicate” the blacks!

  • Fathercoughlin

    Its even worse as more than half the students didnt even take the test! Not to mention those who had ALREADY dropped out!

  • MikeofAges

    Totally true. Barack and Michelle Obama did not pay off their student loans until a few years before he became president. This shows you the reach of this debt burden, which I account as actually a kind of tax. A tax on the future income of those who attend college.

  • MikeofAges

    Lived in the neighborhood in the early 1990s. Tech was just about 100 percent black back then. A sign, albeit a small one, that blacks are slowly withdrawing from the North and West. Those who leave, almost always younger people, simply are not replaced.

  • teaisstronger

    REMEMBER THIS IS CHRIS CHRISTI’S SCHOOLS

    The RINO will do to the whole nation what is happening in New Jersey. Its not just Camden you know. Christi refused to campaign for GOP candidates and the GOP candidate for US Senator but Christi did campaign for Obama.

    Is there a New Jersey in your future.

    • MikeofAges

      New Jersey. Florida. California. These are the ghosts or America Past, Present and Future

  • MikeofAges

    Mine were. So were many other people’s. You miss the point entirely. Look up Griggs v. Duke Power and Ward Cove. They long have wanted standardized test scores discounted. Who was and is hurt by doing that? And helped? Work it out, and report back. Please.

  • Transpower

    It’s “Inquirer”–not “Enquirer.” Although, here in the Metropolitan Philadelphia area we refer to the newspaper as the “Stinquirer.”