America’s Angriest White Men: Up Close with Racism, Rage and Southern Supremacy

Michael Kimmel, Salon, November 17, 2013

Who are the white supremacists? There has been no formal survey, for obvious reasons, but there are several noticeable patterns. Geographically, they come from America’s heartland—small towns, rural cities, swelling suburban sprawl outside larger Sunbelt cities. These aren’t the prosperous towns, but the single-story working-class exurbs that stretch for what feels like forever in the corridor between Long Beach and San Diego (not the San Fernando Valley), or along the southern tier of Pennsylvania, or spread all through the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, across the vast high plains of eastern Washington and Oregon, through Idaho and Montana. There are plenty in the declining cities of the Rust Belt, in Dearborn and Flint, Buffalo and Milwaukee, in the bars that remain in the shadows of the hulking deserted factories that once were America’s manufacturing centers. And that doesn’t even touch the former states of the Confederacy, where flying the Confederate flag is a culturally approved symbol of “southern pride”—in the same way that wearing a swastika would be a symbol of German “heritage” (except it’s illegal in Germany to wear a swastika).

There’s a large rural component. Although “the spread of far-right groups over the last decade has not been limited to rural areas alone,” writes Osha Gray Davidson, “the social and economic unraveling of rural communities—especially in the midwest—has provided far-right groups with new audiences for their messages of hate. Some of these groups have enjoyed considerable success in their rural campaign.” {snip} In stark contrast to the government indifference encountered by rural Americans, a range of Far Right groups, most recently the militias, have seemingly provided support, community, and answers.

In that sense, the contemporary militias and other white supremacist groups are following in the footsteps of the Ku Klux Klan, the Posse Comitatus, and other Far Right patriot groups who recruited members in rural America throughout the 1980s. They tap into a long history of racial and ethnic paranoia in rural America, as well as an equally long tradition of collective local action and vigilante justice. There remains a widespread notion that “Jews, African-Americans, and other minority-group members ‘do not entirely belong,’” which may, in part, “be responsible for rural people’s easy acceptance of the far right’s agenda of hate,” writes Matthew Snipp. “The far right didn’t create bigotry in the Midwest; it didn’t need to,” Davidson concludes. “It merely had to tap into the existing undercurrent of prejudice once this had been inflamed by widespread economic failure and social discontent.”

And many have moved from their deindustrializing cities, foreclosed suburban tracts, and wasted farmlands to smaller rural areas because they seek the companionship of like-minded fellows, in relatively remote areas far from large numbers of nonwhites and Jews and where they can organize, train, and build protective fortresses. Many groups have established refuge in rural communities, where they can practice military tactics, stockpile food and weapons, hone their survivalist skills, and become self-sufficient in preparation for Armageddon, the final race war, or whatever cataclysm they envision. {snip}

They’re certainly Christian, but not just any Christian—they’re evangelical Protestant, Pentacostalist, and members of radical sects that preach racial purity as the Word of Jesus. (Catholicism is certainly stocked with conservatives on social issues, but white supremacists tap into such a long and ignoble tradition of anti-Catholicism that they tend to have their own right-wing organizations, mostly fighting against women’s rights and gay rights.) {snip}

A large proportion of the extreme right wing are military veterans. Several leaders served in Vietnam and were shocked at the national disgust that greeted them as they returned home after that debacle. {snip}

Many of the younger guys are veterans of the first Gulf War, a war that they came to believe was fought for no moral principles at all, but simply to make America’s oil supply safer and to protect Israel from possible Arab attack. They feel they’ve been used, pawns in a larger political game, serving their country honorably only to be spit out and stepped on when they returned home to slashed veteran benefits, bureaucratic indifference to post-traumatic stress disorder, and general social contempt for having fought in the war in the first place. {snip}

{snip}

Perhaps what binds them all together, though, is class. Rural or small town, urban or suburban, the extreme Right is populated by downwardly mobile, lower-middle-class white men. All of the men I interviewed—all—fitted this class profile. When I compared with other ethnographies and other surveys, they all had the same profile as well.

{snip}

{snip} Among the white supremacists, when they speak of race consciousness, defending white people, protesting for equal rights for white people, they actually don’t mean all white people. They don’t mean Wall Street bankers and lawyers, though they are pretty much entirely white and male. They don’t mean white male doctors, or lawyers, or architects, or even engineers. They don’t mean the legions of young white hipster guys, or computer geeks flocking to the Silicon Valley, or the legions of white preppies in their boat shoes and seersucker jackets “interning” at white-shoe law firms in major cities. Not at all. They mean middle-and working-class white people. Race consciousness is actually class consciousness without actually having to “see” class. “Race blindness” leads working-class people to turn right; if they did see class, they’d turn left and make common cause with different races in the same economic class.

{snip}

“It wasn’t my daddy’s farm,” said Andy, “it was my granddaddy’s, and his daddy’s, and his daddy’s. Five generations of Hoosier farmers.” Generations of Hoosier men, who worked the farm, supported a family, made a living with dignity. They proved their masculinity in that most time-honored way in America: as family providers. And it was their fathers who lost it all, squandered their birthright. Instead of getting angry at their fathers, Andy and his comrades claim the mantle of the grandfathers, displace their rage outward, onto an impermeable and unfeeling government bureaucracy that didn’t offer help, onto soulless corporations that squeezed them mercilessly. By displacing their anger onto those enormous faceless entities, the sons justify their political rage and rescue their own fathers from their anger.

Some can’t do it. Some of the sons—and the fathers—turn their rage inward. We have already discussed the wave of suicides that rippled across the American heartland in the 1980s and 1990s—spawning widespread concern and a series of Farm Aid concerts to raise awareness. The number of suicides in America’s Midwest was higher in the 1990s than during the Great Depression; suicide was the leading cause of agricultural fatalities for two decades—by far. Men were five times more likely to kill themselves than die by accident. “To fail several generations of relatives (both backwards and forwards into those unborn descendants who will now not be able to farm), to see yourself as the one weak link in a strong chain that spans more than a century, is a terrible, and for some, an unbearable burden,” writes Osha Gray Davidson. “When a fellow in a steel mill loses his job, he has basically lost his paycheck,” a physician at the University of Iowa explained. “When an Iowa farmer loses his farm, he’s lost the guts of his life.”

{snip}

Others direct this seething rage outward. “Many debt ridden farm families will become more suspicious of government, as their self-worth, their sense of belonging, their hope for the future deteriorates,” predicted Oklahoma psychologist Glen Wallace presciently in 1989. “The farms are gone,” writes Dyer, “yet the farmers remain. They’ve been transformed into a wildfire of rage, fueled by the grief of their loss and blown by the winds of conspiracy and hate-filled rhetoric.” “It is hardly surprising, then, that American men—lacking confidence in the government and the economy, troubled by the changing relations between the sexes, uncertain of their identity or their future—began to dream, to fantasize about the powers and features of another kind of man who could retake and reorder the world. And the hero of all these dreams was the paramilitary warrior.” The contemporary white supremacist movement is the embodiment of these warrior dreams.

{snip} They get mad, and they get organized. They cobble together a theory that explains their plight—grafting together fringe elements of evangelical Christianity, traditional anti-Semitism and racism, and general right-wing paranoia into an amalgam that is loosely held together by a nostalgic vision of hardy, independent frontier manhood. Like the guys who go postal, they externalize their rage—their anguish is clearly the fault of someone else—but they don’t externalize it to their immediate surroundings, their boss, supervisor, or coworkers. Instead, it’s larger, more powerful, and pernicious social forces—Jews, Muslims, minorities generally, women.

{snip}

So, who are they really, these hundred thousand white supremacists? They’re every white guy who believed that this land was his land, was made for you and me. They’re every down-on-his-luck guy who just wanted to live a decent life but got stepped on, every character in a Bruce Springsteen or Merle Haggard song, every cop, soldier, auto mechanic, steelworker, and construction worker in America’s small towns who can’t make ends meet and wonders why everyone else is getting a break except him. But instead of becoming Tom Joad, a left-leaning populist, they take a hard right turn, ultimately supporting the very people who have dispossessed them.

They’re America’s Everymen, whose pain at downward mobility and whose anger at what they see as an indifferent government have become twisted by a hate that tells them they are better than others, disfigured by a resentment so deep that there are no more bridges to be built, no more ladders of upward mobility to be climbed, a howl of pain mangled into the scream of a warrior. Their rage is as sad as it is frightening, as impotent as it is shrill.

{snip}

You might think that the political ideology of the white supremacist movement is as simple as their list of enemies: put down minorities, expel immigrants, push the women out of the workplace, and round up and execute the gays and the Jews. But it’s not nearly so simple. Actually, they have to navigate some treacherous ideological waters and reconcile seemingly contradictory ideological visions with their emotions.

There are three parts to their ideological vision. For one thing, they are ferociously procapitalist. They are firm believers in the free market and free enterprise. They just don’t like what it’s brought. They like capitalism; they just hate corporations. They identify, often, as the vast middle class of office workers and white-collar employees, even though that is hardly their class background. {snip}

Aryans support capitalist enterprise and entrepreneurship, even those who make it rich, but especially the virtues of the small proprietor, but are vehemently antiurban, anticosmopolitan, and anticorporate. In their eyes, Wall Street is ruled by Jewish-influenced corporate plutocrats who hate “real” Americans. Theirs is the Jeffersonian vision of a nation of producers—not financiers, not bankers, and not those other “masters of the universe” whose entire careers consist of cutting the cake ever more finely and living on the crumbs. {snip}

{snip}

Second, the extreme Right is extremely patriotic. They love their country, their flag, and everything it stands for. These are the guys who get teary at the playing of the national anthem, who choke up when they hear the word America. They have bumper stickers on their pick ups that show the flag with the slogan “These colors don’t run.”

{snip}

That such ardent patriots are so passionately antigovernment might strike the observer as contradictory. After all, are these not the same men who served their country in Vietnam or in the Gulf War? Are these not the same men who believe so passionately in the American Dream? Are they not the backbone of the Reagan Revolution? Indeed, they are. The extreme Right faces the difficult cognitive task of maintaining their faith in America and in capitalism and simultaneously providing an analysis of an indifferent state, at best, or an actively interventionist one, at worst, and a way to embrace capitalism, despite a cynical corporate logic that leaves them, often literally, out in the cold—homeless, jobless, hopeless.

Finally, they believe themselves to be the true heirs of the real America. They are the ones who are entitled to inherit the bounty of the American system. It’s their birthright—as native-born, white American men. {snip}

{snip}

It is through a decidedly gendered and sexualized rhetoric of masculinity that this contradiction between loving America and hating its government, loving capitalism and hating its corporate iterations, is resolved. Racism, nativism, anti-Semitism, antifeminism—these discourses of hate provide an explanation for the feelings of entitlement thwarted, fixing the blame squarely on “others” whom the state must now serve at the expense of white men. The unifying theme is gender.

These men feel emasculated by big money and big government. In their eyes, most white American men collude in their emasculation. They’ve grown soft, feminized, weak. White supremacist websites abound with complaints about the “whimpering collapse of the blond male,” the “legions of sissies and weaklings, of flabby, limp-wristed, non-aggressive, non-physical, indecisive, slack-jawed, fearful males who, while still heterosexual in theory and practice, have not even a vestige of the old macho spirit.”

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  • dd121

    I think they’re doing a lot of projecting of what they imagine white nationalists to be. It’s not that narrow.

    • Svigor

      Well, focus is key. If the writers at Salon would focus on the WN and ethnopatriotic presence on the Web, they’d find a much different subject. Surveys have shown WNs and ethnopatriots on the Web to be above average in education, IQ, and socioeconomic status, tending toward technical jobs.

      But the Salon crowd might have to go find some examples, and then have their butts kicked (rhetorically speaking, of course). Much better to pick on hicks.

      • Spartacus

        Those “hicks”, as you call them, are our brethren. Also, they’re far more likely to survive when SHTF than most of the “refined intelectuals” of the movement.

        • tlk244182

          I think he meant that they’re ‘hicks’ in Kimmel’s world view. I didn’t get the feeling that he (Svigor) was calling them that.

          • Svigor

            Kinda both. I don’t see anything wrong with hicks. It’s like when blacks use (word that must not be used, ever); it’s okay when they do it. I take the same tack toward epithets commonly used against whites; I’m allowed to use them, my fellow WNs and ethnopatriots are allowed, hicks (etc.) are allowed, but no one else.

          • tlk244182

            Yup.

        • Emperor Naked

          It is their (your job) to protect the brains (often the older members) of society than to project a scenario where every white is only acting for their own survival or advantage.

          Beyond that, anti-intellectualism has never resulted in a desirable outcome, ever.

          • Spartacus

            It’s no anti-intellectualism, merely anti-snobishness(not sure if that’s an actual term) . Anyone who is White and on our side may never be mocked or belittled, regardless of any other faults they may have .

          • Emperor Naked

            Good, that’s what I wanted to hear. I’ve always posted so when I read some poster using terms like “white trash” on this site. It’s happened in the past. The other thing is that I am convinced that it is just as harmful to whites to create and feed upon historic and political revisionism to create “pro-white” propaganda as it is for our enemies to use it against us. We come out just fine using the factual historical record – if we are willing to dispense with our own lies and delusions.

      • Anon

        Why in the world would you want liberals to know the truth about racial aware whites? These people are evil scum….far better to have them chasing the mythical hillbilly in “dixie” than focusing in any way on us. Do you think they would ever, no matter how well we made the argument, ever hold anything except a vile and malevolent intent towards us? Hell no.

        Where I live, almost everyone who lives here is racially aware and that’s not by accident. The last thing I want is for liberals to figure this out and decide to do something about it, lol.

        • T_A_C

          Right on. Use their ‘bogeyman’ image of us to advance the dialectic.

    • Against my better judgment, I went ahead and read the whole article on Saloon’s website.

      One of the big unspoken problems with it is that it’s making people out to be ethnonationalists or racial nationalists who are not only not such, but they actively oppose ethno/racial nationalism.

      Other than that, I took the article as the usual mehe of paranoid leftists peddling paranoia to other paranoid leftists to keep that KKKrazy Glue from losing its adhesive qualities.

      • D.B. Cooper

        Do you see what kind of white chicken manure we have to put up with? This is an all too typical comment from a lot of “white boys”. I sure don’t see the GOP trying to “reach out” to them, who should be really easy to get.
        note my “thumbs down”, and it was probably a white boy who did it.

        • Garrett Brown

          That’s funny. What did he respond with?

        • Sick of it

          This of course overlooks the fact that our people, just like elsewhere in the country, won’t get married until later in life on average and do not have many children, just as elsewhere. It’s obviously inaccurate unless one starts to apply it to blacks and Hispanics.

    • anew

      The opening sentence, more or less, gives this away. I don’t have time for this idiot’s book, I notice that most of the information in this excerpt is twenty years old, so that might also help explain why his portrait of white nationalists is so unrecognizable to us.

      It always infuriates me how when any mainstream hack comes along to analyze us, he suddenly loses all commonsense, or the ability to hold two ideas in his head at once. This author notices that some wns are also class-conscious, ergo that must be the key to explain their white nationalism—it’s just misplaced class-consciousness! It does not occur to him that it may be the other way around, that they are class-conscious because they are wns. Or maybe they’re simply both at the same time; there’s no contradiction with these two positions (even though it doesn’t seem to me that most wns are particularly class-conscious).

  • Whitetrashgang

    90 percent of what he wrote is claptrap. It is interesting though how some people see us.Wait till it gets worse and he becomes one of us, about a 80 percent probability.

    • MekongDelta69

      90 percent of what he wrote is claptrap.

      One slight correction, if I may:
      100 percent of what he wrote is claptrap.

      And I didn’t even read the article(!), because I didn’t have to.
      It’s always been the same; it’s always the same now; and it will always be the same.

      • tlk244182

        I read as much as I could stand, same old cliches, blah, blah, blah….

      • Young Werther

        Oh no, *it* won’t always be the same as *it* is now.

    • Sick of it

      He won’t ever be one of us. He already has a tribe to which he belongs.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Oh sorry I feel stupid didn’t know who it was.

  • Manaphy

    I know that I already said this, but nearly all of the writers and commenters at Salon are uber-liberal, ultra-feminist, heterophobic, anti-white, mudshark women who have nothing better to do with their lives, other than disappoint their fathers and salute dear leader Hilary Clinton. Matt Kimmel included. Is this guy a non-Eskimo, btw? possibly homosexual. Must remember to investigate further. Anyway, Salon’s description of white nationalists shows their utter lack of understanding, and urge to ridicule any legitimate views that they don’t agree with. Why is Salon given any credibility these days?

    • Svigor

      Probably plenty of Jews in that group, too. Generally speaking, Jews have a strong animus against rural people. This animus has been around for centuries, and isn’t hard to find in their cultural output. Add that to their animus against the descendants of European Christendom for a double whammy.

      • Guest

        That is what I meant by “non-Eskimos”. If I express the tribe by name then Amren will delete my comment(s).

      • Manaphy

        If I call them out by name then my comment will be deleted….

    • Archibald_Cunningham

      Let’s just say Michael Kimmel is one of those who has no qualms about promoting Cultural Marxism in America and other white countries, because his people have a nation state of their own. You can tell by the inordinate number of references to hostility towards Jews and anti-semitism in the article. A quick google search confirms it.

      • Chip Carver

        There’s no way Kimmel would ever be associated with a group that preaches the supremacy of its own people, their moral superiority to all others, their cultural superiority, the need for their own to stick together at all costs. That would make him a hypocrite. Wait, what?

        • Young Werther

          ha ha ha

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      Google : The Story of the Kimmel Family – JewishGen KehilaLinks. If you want to be quickly convinced, look at the portrait in the article.

  • bigone4u

    Rage is good. Righteous anger is healthy. The story of Jesus’ attack on the moneychangers in the temple makes that point. It is sane to do battle with an insane society such as the US has become.

    • Svigor

      Rage is the natural response to being wronged. White people who aren’t enraged at their treatment by leftists in general, and Jews in particular, aren’t paying attention.

      • Young Werther

        Perhaps, they are simply stupid?

    • Randall Ward

      Or as the terminator said; “despair is not a useful emotion”.

  • Do people really get paid to write whatever they believe to be true?

  • So CAL Snowman

    I guess they missed me – Southern Californian male who surfs, snowboards, plays the piano and guitar, hates his country, thinks Ray Gun was a joke, and has a degree from a prominent California University.

    • Svigor

      These things always come down to ad hominem attacks. The point is obvious: to change the subject from the message, to the messenger. Alinsky-style politics. It’s what people do when their arguments suck.

      We should train ourselves to feed off of these signals of weakness. I know weak, feminine arguments like these ad hominem attacks certainly embolden me.

      • ms_anthro

        The best response to this nonsense might very well be, “Thanks for your tedious armchair psychoanalysis of the messengers, but what about the message? Let’s talk about that.” Be a bulldog about the facts and only the facts. Never let a multicultist steer the narrative into the realm of the personal. Facts are their kryptonite.

        • Svigor

          Yes, refusing to let your opponents steer the conversation is excellent advice. If they give you an opening, take it, but always consider whether you’re better served by ignoring a digression, or following it.

    • Triarius

      Same here. Prestigious degree, great job in a large corporation. I have friends and volunteer, etc.

      I think that they try to paint us this way so it is unappealing to the mainstream society. They don’t want to admit that most of us are nice, successful people.

      • So CAL Snowman

        The funny thing is the people at Salon probably regularly interact with people like you and me and don’t even know that WE are the very people that they claim to hate. White nationalists come in all shapes and our HUGE ADVANTAGE is that we are able to blend in seamlessly with the mainstream establishment.

        • Triarius

          I know I interact with Salon fans quite often. They usually ask me for spare change on a daily basis.

    • Archibald_Cunningham

      And me – non-rural Midwesterner with a medical degree.

      Rural or small town, urban or suburban, the extreme Right is populated
      by downwardly mobile, lower-middle-class white men. All of the men I
      interviewed—all—fitted this class profile. When I compared with other
      ethnographies and other surveys, they all had the same profile as well.

      Rock-solid evidence right there. Because all the patriotic whites he and others interviewed were working class, all patriotic whites must be working class. Right.

      The reason working class whites are more vocal about their right-wing views in regards to race has to do with the soft-totalitarianism we currently live under. Middle and upper-class whites have more to lose (career, status, etc.) by expressing pro-white views publicly. If they do, it’s only a matter of time before the ooks, squeals, and howls for them to be fired reach a fever pitch. And as we’ve seen time and again, those in authority always acquiesce. This is what keeps so many middle and upper-class whites who are pro-white from expressing their views to people like Michael Kimmel.

    • Who Me?

      Well they missed me too,
      All Christian–Nope
      All Male–nope
      Daddy lost the family farm–nope
      Never mind the rest of it, it’s as flat out wrong as the three examples above…pure bull all the way through.

  • Sure thing bozos, because I’m really going to believe the analysis about me on the part of people that hate me and wish I didn’t exist and would rub me out in a heartbeat if given half a chance.

    • Svigor

      I regard Jews as the heart, soul, and intellect of leftism. After many years of gathering evidence as to the constitution of that collective heart and soul, attacks on my own people’s collective heart and soul fall off harmlessly, like water from a duck’s back.

      The left lives in a glass house.

      • Emperor Naked

        If so, the responsibility for creating it is yours (ours).

        Amazing to me is how everyone from the neo-nazi to the more passive WR poster doesn’t recognize that getting some reaction from this group (Jews) after 2,000 years is surprising and a reason for so much blind indignation. “How can they be doing this after we always treated them so humanely???”

        The other thing being the transparency of the International Jewish Conspiracy theory nonsense that works to prevent any white with any amount of education or critical thinking ability from being able to buy into what whites need to be buying into; their right to survive as a race and sets of cultural/ethnic groups. If we could only get the stupid out of the typical white activist formula that articles like this delight in exposing and embellishing….

  • Bunky

    What garbage.
    I wasted my time on this crap.
    This clown went to a group of white guys who are middle class (who were honest with him) and voila, they are the only white supremacists.
    Does he think the wall street barons think they are not? They may say they are not but I guarantee they think it as much as the white doctors do.

  • MekongDelta69

    Who are the guilt-ridden, self-loathing, mindless leftists?

    Why – Michael Kimmel of Salon (among all the rest) – of course.

    If ever there were “soft, feminized, weak” (so-called) ‘men,’ here’s a perfect example.

    • D.B. Cooper

      I constantly call out the sissy white liberal, and ohhhh do they get p!$$ed when I nail it! A typical response from me when I see a white liberal little boy who puts down republicans, tea partiers, the deep south, the military, and country music:
      “Here’s what I think YOU are: under 25, no degree, lives with mom, has no job, or has a job that doesn’t require a high school diploma, smokes weed, still a virgin. How am I doing?”

      The TOTAL venom can be felt even through their typed words, and a “violation notice” email is often not far behind.

      • ms_anthro

        As a woman in mixed social settings, I like to praise the masculinity of the right wing men I know and extol the virtues of their hard work–physical and intellectual–and unflinching understanding and acceptance of objective reality. I talk admiringly about the great explorers, the engineers, the inventors, the astronauts, and the warriors among our people. I innocently wonder aloud what has happened to so many men today that they’d rather pursue a worthless liberal arts degree and blog about “social justice” issues than create new technologies or explore new frontiers like our forefathers did.

        It’s subtle but effective at totally emasculating the typical bearded homeless-looking hipster. They know deep down that they’re weak seeds and can’t stand to be reminded of it. So I try to do it often.

  • Lewis33

    I’m beginning to think we should put a ban on Salon like Rush does with MSNBC. We already know what they are going to say, they get their jollies off on working us up and we probably add to their internet hit counts. No more please.

    • A person must know their enemies …..

      • ThomasER916

        Agreed. We need to keep tabs on them and highlight their essential argument and the race/ethnicity that is making that argument. Without saying both we’re saying nothing.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    I was at the Amren conference in 2012 and started laughing hysterically when Jared Taylor went up to the podium and read a mainstream article that was already circulating about the event.

    It read “this group meeting in Tennessee is the most dangerous group in the country”.

    Hearing that, and then looking around the room at all the civilized gentlemen in suits, made me burst into laughter. I was just about the only one though. The men didn’t find it funny. I did, only because it shows how ridiculous liberals can be.

    • Svigor

      The “mainstream article” was honest and accurate. WNs and ethnopatriots are the greatest danger to the current leftist (Democrats, Republicans, libertarians, liberals, conservatives, etc.) regime. Everyone else is playing along.

    • RAMZPAUL

      I thought my pink, peace sign hoodie made me look rather menacing and dangerous.

      • ThomasER916

        LOL! There’s no way you’re the real Ramzpaul.

        But I have to congratulate you on your first post at Amren! Even if you have yellow fever 😉

        • WR_the_realist

          Amren posters are not required to pretend that there aren’t any cute Asian girls, as Stormfronters are.

          • Svigor

            I don’t have any problem acknowledging that there are cute yellow girls. I do have a problem with low-testosterone white males who insist that their yellow fetish is a universal human trait. Personally, I find yellow girls much less attractive than white girls, and in my experience, white guys who have yellow fever are a low-T minority. I wish they’d get it through their heads that they are just wired differently from normal males.

          • WR_the_realist

            Good grief. RamzPaul made a single comment that he thought some female Asian actress was cute, and suddenly he’s a low T male with a yellow fetish.

      • Garrett Brown

        Ramz in the house!!!!!!!!!!

      • gemjunior

        Yeah and your long bangs swept dramatically to the side and sprayed in place like a helmet plus the coexist bumper sticker on your car. Add the pretentious speech patterns of todays youngster – a mix of ValleyGirl + Ebonics = Presto! You have it: todays Young Urban Butthead & Sophisticated Liberal Leftist New School Graduate

    • Massif1

      At least liberals know that black Muslims in Chicago are too dumb to be called dangerous.

    • JohnEngelman

      American Renaissance is dangerous to some liberal goals because the assertions of race realism are scientifically valid, and mean that those goals cannot be achieved.

      • Svigor

        Race-realism is dangerous to liberalism itself because it threatens to smash the entire project. It leads directly to uppity whites who pursue their own interests.

        • JohnEngelman

          Race realism asserts and documents the biological superiority of the Ashkenazi and Oriental races.

          • Fak_Zakaix

            1. Why shouldn’t the Greeks be considered the “chosen people”? They after all created the Western civilisation! Have you heard of Thales, Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato, Sophocles, Praxiteles, Archimedes, Ptolemy, etc, etc, etc. Name a famous ancient Jewish intellectual. Name a famous Middle Age Jewish intellectual other than Maimonides (great, true, but one Jew among many Arabs/Muslims), name a Renaissance Jewish intellectual or artist, name a Scientific Revolution Age Jewish philosopher other than Spinoza (great, true, but one Jew among many Gentiles), name an Enlightenment Age philosopher other than Moses Mendelsohn (minor). Where were the “chosen people”? Where were the Ashkenazim?
            2. You said that you like hard facts and hard science. Why than you mentioned Charles Murray controversial views that Ancient Jews were “superior” too?

          • JohnEngelman

            Until the nineteenth century Ashkenazi Jews were discriminated against so they were not allowed to distinguish themselves in the Western European tradition.

          • Fak_Zakaix

            Then how Spinoza, David Ricardo and Disraeli managed to be well regarded by their Aryan peers. Were they less Jews? Why so few Jews followed in their footsteps? And notice, all of the three were Sephardim! THERE IS NO ASHKENAZI WHO ACHIEVED SOMETHING CULTURALLY BETWEEN THEIR BIRTH AS A NATION AND THEIR EMANCIPATION FROM ABOVE AS AN ACT OF CHARITY. Strange!

  • Pro_Whitey

    I am a well-educated (or at least well-degreed) and relatively highly paid professional in a blue state, well behind enemy lines. I say the fellows criticized by Salon are a lot closer to the mark of reality than anyone at Salon (not that I read that garbage). Farmers can like the market system, but the big and recurring problem is the money system, the government-banker inspired bubbles and bursts for which only a few well-placed insiders seem to be prepared, and the rest of us pay the costs. I could go on and on, but in short, I’m as angry as anyone else out there.

  • libertarian1234

    “Salon psychoanalyzes “white supremacists.”
    When I saw the article was from Salon, I didn’t bother to read it.
    I know without looking at it that it contains half-truths, exaggerations and out-and-out lies.

    • Svigor

      I prefer to spend my time psychoanalyzing Jews. They need the help. I throw them on the analyst’s couch every chance I get. It’s the only way to keep Wiemarica from turning out like Wiemar Germany did. They’ll thank people like me in the long run.

      • JohnEngelman

        Those who hate Jews need to be psychoanalyzed. Blacks are hated because many of them are dangerous. They are despised because most of them are inferior. Jews are hated because most of them are superior to those who hate them.

        • Luca

          Hate is a waste of time…period. However, there is a certain percentage of Ashkenazim who are raging, radical liberals and they have extraordinary wealth and power. They control Hollywood and have prominent positions in the legal, political, media, academia and banking arenas. They exert disproportionate amounts of influence over the American public through these positions. They push a radical, money making agenda with no regard to the damage it does to American society, culture and values. They were sent here years ago and financed by the Rothschild and other rich families back in Europe. They do what is best for themselves and the hell with everyone else. This is why that small, powerful group is despised.

          Anyone who denies this reality, needs to be psychoanalyzed.

          And the rest of them are usually nice intelligent people.

          • JohnEngelman

            If by “control” you mean the ability to give orders, expect obedience, and punish insubordination, Jews do not have that kind of power anywhere in the world.

            Hollywood is perhaps the most competitive economic environment in the United States. Movies cost millions of dollars to make. The vast majority lose money. What matters in Hollywood is the ability to make movies that attract viewers. There are not enough Jews in the United States to reward pro Jewish movies unless they also attract a much larger number of Gentiles.

            Jews do dominate every area of the economy that rewards superior intelligence. That is the way capitalism is supposed to work: superior people move up; inferior people fall down.

          • Luca

            I mean “Control” as in dumbing down, using propaganda, indoctrinating, manipulating the legal/political system and swaying cultural attitudes.

            Hollywood is controlled by an oligarchy of a handful of major studios owned or operated by you-know-who. Using media to sway the masses is as old as Gutenberg’s printing press. Hollywood promotes and hypes certain actors, actresses and movies which really are not all that good, but the huge PR machine behind them makes them enticing to the useful idiots.

            Many people have superior intelligence, but certain ones use it in a selfish, unscrupulous, destructive manner. Others don’t.

          • JohnEngelman

            Propaganda only works when it tells people what they want to believe, or what they know to be true from their own lives.

          • WR_the_realist

            Perhaps, but people want to believe all sorts of dangerous nonsense, so propaganda can get people to believe all sorts of dangerous nonsense. In war time people want to believe that they are good, and doing God’s work, and that the enemy is irredeemably bad, and the spawn of Satan. So in war time people are easily led by propaganda to do terrible things to others, and feel self righteous doing so.

            That all races are equally endowed in all important attributes is nonsense, but something that people want to believe (in this case, it is a desire created by peoples’ better nature). So they are easily led by the media propaganda into believing that any persistent failure of blacks is due to evil white racists.

          • Svigor

            Nonsense. Propaganda tells people what to think and say if they want to get ahead.

          • JohnEngelman

            You mistake propaganda for the constraints of political correctness.

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            Was that really the case in the Soviet Union and Mao’s China or present day North Korea? Propaganda works simply due to monopoly. That is true for both communist and capitalist countries. In capitalist countries you can attain a monopoly by simply buying all media with big money. The Jews have big money. Once you have a monopoly you can sell any lie, no matter how ridiculous if only you practise some psychological tricks. Read Edward Bernays’ Propaganda.

          • JohnEngelman

            Communist propaganda was ineffective in Eastern Europe. As soon as Mikhail Gorbachev indicated that the Soviet Army would not shoot at demonstrators Communist dictatorships in Eastern Europe were doomed.

            I am confident that when the dictatorship in North Korea begins to falter it will fall too. Sooner or later police officers and soldiers in North Korea will look at each other and think, “He hates the dictatorship as much as I do.”

            Jews have money because they have brains.

          • Fak_Zakaix

            Maybe when and if anarchy falls on America people will shed the Hollywood and media inculcated notion that “the Jews are our friends” and will expressed their true feelings for them freely on the streets.

          • Svigor

            Jews know they’re inferior; that’s why they keep the borders to their ethno-state (Israel) closed to competition from superior yellows.

        • Fak_Zakaix

          No, Psychoanalysis is passe. Even Jews agree. No, I tell you what they need. They need to be injected depot antipsychotics of the first generation. Only some healthy doses of haloperidol or fluphenazine will do. Believe me, I know from experience. Chemical lobotomy, nothing short of it.

          • JohnEngelman

            Jews have superior brains. They do not need psychotic drugs. You do.

        • Svigor

          Nah. Jew-haters are a tiny minority, and socially and politically irrelevant. Jews, with their widespread animus against white “gentiles” who wander off the liberal reservation, on the other hand, run America; they’re very socially and politically relevant.

    • Randall Ward

      Right, this is how the left tries to protray any white that actually realizes that being white is a good thing.

  • D.B. Cooper

    In some regard, I agree with him. These working class white racists don’t have the education to realize the minority is only here because of the white Clintonian liberal. Slick Willie and his wife both get a free ride without any obstacles because the racist working class, tattooed white man is directing his anger at the wrong people (for now), and blindly following the Republican Party who has not done anything for him except play a prevent defense in a game they are trailing.

    • Randall Ward

      So you bought into the article, which is a fiction of the writers mind.

  • tlk244182

    Verbose drivel.

  • Spartacus

    “In stark contrast to the government indifference encountered by rural
    Americans, a range of Far Right groups, most recently the militias, have
    seemingly provided support, community, and answers.”

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    This is what you people have to do. Buy a strip of land and start your own White colony, live off the land, and focus on nothing other than breeding, farming, and military training . Basically, you have to become militarized Amish .

    • Talltrees

      See Leith, North Dakota. Land is available for Whites.

      • ThomasER916

        That’s the idea – to criminalize whites for existing.

      • I think they arrested him.

        • Talltrees

          So, that’s the future we have to look forward to, a life behind bars if we want to establish White territories?

  • Luca

    Without any research, I say this guy is another run-of-the-mill, liberal Jew journalist. I say this because of the message he is sending in the third paragraph: “There remains a widespread notion that “Jews, African-Americans, and other minority-group members ‘do not entirely belong,..”

    Notice he puts Jews first, African Americans second and all others get honorable mention. Again we are confronted with the propaganda about the poor victimized, marginalized, disenfranchised, minority Jew.

    I couldn’t read any further. Didn’t need to.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      He is a Red Mafia Jewish Communist, whose thinking can be summed up this way. “What’s mine is mine. What’s yours is also mine, your wealth, women, money and everything else.” That is what lines the insides of a Soviet brain.

      • Franklin_Ryckaert

        And if you try to defend yourself, you’re a “supremacist”.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          No, you are an anti-Semite, and in the former Soviet Union that was a capital offence.

    • Talltrees

      He is a German Jew.

      • Winston_Jack

        Correction:
        He’s a Jew currently residing in Germany. Their nation of residence is strictly
        secondary when it comes to their identity, and is mostly used interchangeably
        for convenience.

        • Franklin_Ryckaert

          Intellectual nomads.

  • Rhialto

    Methinks that the Liberals now realize that the White male resistance is a force that they must recognize and deal with. Because of Liberal radicalism and the Internet, the Liberals can no longer ignore or dismiss their opposition, as they could a few decades ago.

    The Liberals cannot ignore minority crime, because they are discussed on the Internet. The Liberals cannot ignore anit-Liberal scientific facts on race, because they are discussed on the Internet. The Liberals cannot ignore the negative effects of immigration, because they are discussed on the Internet.

    Rabbi Foxman, of ADL fame, had an article on VDare about how damaging the Internet was. The Rabbi complained about Hate on the Internet, and when he says hate he is referring to what scares him.

  • pcmustgo

    Hmmm, thinks they are all rural. I thought it was mostly working class whites who grew up in urban areas next to Blacks.

  • Hal K

    Who are the white supremacists?

    You can tell everything you need to know about this article from the first sentence.

  • NorthernWind

    Ugh. More drivel written by an ignoramus from the cesspit that is Salon.

  • DaveMed

    *Yawn*

    As a liberal at Salon, this writer is simply preaching to the choir. I’m not so concerned – especially given that the uptick in articles of this thrust seem to be written more and more frequently… which means they are scared. Good.

    However, I would say that the more angry segment of the population, in this day and age, is likely to be the one that’s on to something. Those who grow fat and complacent with the generation’s cheap pleasures and causes are never the thoughtful ones. It is the ones who are upset at losing the irretrievable who are the real philosophers and critical thinkers.

  • HJ11

    Hey, Salon, thanks for the publicity. Yup, I’m one of those Whites you detest so much, and I’m proud to be as I was born to be. Nope, you’ll get no mewling “That’s not me,” crap from me.

    Yup, I’m White and any Whites who try to deny who and what they are, aren’t my kind.

  • RHG

    Meanwhile racist gangs of blacks roam around pummeling people and the leftwing kooks hide their heads in the sand about this brand of violent bigotry.

    • JohnEngelman

      Even so, those “leftwing kooks” know better than to walk along Martin Luther King Boulevard after dark.

      • WR_the_realist

        Yup, the only street more dangerous is Malcolm X Avenue.

        • Puggg

          Wait until a whole bunch of streets are named for Barack Obama.

          There are already schools that were already name for him that are now being described and bemoaned as underperforming and failing. We know that the only kind of school that was going to let itself be named for Obama was underperforming and failing to begin with, black “skooz.”

  • Talltrees

    From my experience, followers are highly educated, far from farmers and those on a downward spiral.

    And…among Bikers to DC were physicians, veterinarians, lawyers, engineers, and other professionals, 99.9% White. While they didn’t say they were racial realists, all taking their bikes to DC, some as far as Hawaii and Alaska, their intent to “Take THEIR country back”, certainly indicates it was a White movement about losing it to non-Whites.

    • ThomasER916

      You’re correct. The problem right now is whites denying they have an identity, a culture, a history, and a heritage. Whites are denying they not only have a right but a DUTY of collective self-interest.

  • freddy_hills

    People who write articles like this are the same ones who call others “redneck” and “hick” and make jokes about incest, bestiality, no shoes and bad teeth. That’s because they’re so tolerant. #sarcasm

    • Sick of it

      Meanwhile, liberals tell us to embrace incest, not to pick on liberals who engage in bestiality, not to pick on liberals who have bad teeth (some of us have never needed dental work), and to ignore when a negro has stolen their shoes.

    • ThomasER916

      The Tribe who writes these articles are the same Tribe that have a history of genocide against rural, Christian, white farmers:

      Boer Genocide – Benjamin Disraeli
      South African Genocide – Joe Slovo
      Holodomor – Lazar Kaganovish, Genrikh Yagoda

      The Soviets murdered Kulaks – rural, Christian, white farmers. The Tribe is targeting “rednecks” and “hicks” for genocide. Ask someone if this accurately describes a “redneck”:

      rural, Christian, white farmers

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        Indeed, the Jews and non-Slavs who ruled the Soviet Union murdered tens of millions of my father’s and grandmother’s people. And they wonder why Ukrainians hunted down and shot, stabbed, and bludgeoned them to death even as the Nazis watched?

        • Fak_Zakaix

          I hope your read Solzhenitsyn’s “Two Hundred Years Together”. Amazing guy. Amazing book.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            I haven’t read that book, but I am well aware of Solzhenitsyn’s work. He was a prisoner in the Gulags because he attempted to stop the rape and murder of German women and girls during and after the end of WW-II. He makes no bones and pulls no punches about the real masters of the Soviet Union, and those who created it from outside Eastern Europe.

      • Sick of it

        They butchered the Mennonites who didn’t leave Russia. Every single one.

        • ThomasER916

          True. There’s a video on YouTube where the Russian “Amish” have returned after fleeing to South America.

  • Le Fox

    “You might think that the political ideology of the white supremacist movement is as simple as their list of enemies: put down minorities, expel immigrants, push the women out of the workplace, and round up and execute the gays and the Jews. But it’s not nearly so simple. Actually, they have to navigate some treacherous ideological waters and reconcile seemingly contradictory ideological visions with their emotions.” — Too true. We have the ones that understand history and science, and the conspiracy guys that hang around Stormfront too much.

    • Sick of it

      History is filled with actual, violent conspiracies. Or is Russia still ruled by the Czar?

  • freddy_hills

    I just skimmed another article by this author. He has the most irritating writing style I’ve ever read. He drones on without saying anything.

    • ThomasER916

      You’ve just described the writings of crypto-rabbis everywhere.

  • Paul

    Most people have no idea what socialism is. They think it is the same as communism.

    • JohnEngelman

      I doubt that the estimated 49 percent of young people who favor socialism desire a Communist dictatorship in the United States.

      Millions of young people have gotten college degrees that did not get them middle class jobs. Millions of their parents have lost middle class jobs, and had to take jobs paying much less.

      For them capitalism is not working. They see socialism as a preferable alternative.

      • Jesse James

        There are many more young people out of work in Europe than in the United States, how exactly is EU socialism working out for them? Why do we think it would work better for us here?

        • JohnEngelman

          The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. The Scandinavian countries have lower unemployment rates than the United States. They have less public debt as a percentage of gross domestic product. They retain AAA ratings with Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s.

          • Jesse James

            As has been pointed out many times these countries are still relatively homogenous and thus don’t serve as a good analog for multicultural diverse America. Also look at the difference in scale, Norway has only about 5 million people, we have individual cities whose metropolitan area population exceeds the entire population of Norway. It is just difficult to apply what might work for them with what we need here to build a better economy.

          • JohnEngelman

            What you say is largely true. Nevertheless, the success of Scandinavian Social Democracy disproves the right wing cliche that “Socialism has failed in every country where it has been tried.”

          • Jesse James

            Some version of national socialism might still be a pretty good system to live under if you had a population that has a shared ethnicity, history and culture. People don’t mind being taxed as much if they think their tax offering is used to help people like them. Scandinavians will probably become less supportive of socialism as the globalist flood their countries with non-white immigrants and they start to feel the chaos created by multi-culturalism and start to resent having their own tax money used to destroy their own kin and culture.

          • JohnEngelman

            On a number of times I have written on this website that Social Democracy has only worked in countries where nearly everyone is white.

          • WR_the_realist

            Socialism can not work in the United States, or more precisely, not as something imposed by the federal government. The U.S. is too big, and too heterogeneous. Arguably the Amish and Mennonites engage in a kind of Christian socialism, and it works well enough for them. But that just proves the point — socialism works well only in a relatively small, homogenous society, one where people see themselves as part of a large extended family. The more diverse a nation the less likely socialism will work. People do not want to make big sacrifices for the genetic competition. This is something progressive advocates of diversity are completely stupid about.

          • JohnEngelman

            The New Deal did work in the United States. I advocate an extension of the New Deal, and believe it can be successful too.

            I also advocate the deportation of illegal immigrants, punishment for their employers, more restrictions on legal immigration, an end to affirmative action and forced school busing, and a harsher criminal justice system.

          • WR_the_realist

            Well, America was 90% white during the New Deal. And it’s not even clear how well that worked. America didn’t really get out of the depression until World War II created an artificial labor shortage with a big increase in war related jobs.

        • Sick of it

          Don’t bother. He always presents skewed so-called facts. Notice he ignored the existence of every nation in the EU but the Nordic nations in order to support his opinion?

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      Socialism = Communism = Stalinism, that’s the idea.

  • Anon

    This article is…..hilarious. What do liberals do, drop acid then write whatever occurs to them as if it was fact.

    Here is the truth about white supremacists. Almost none of the world’s white supremacists speak english. In the half of the world dominated by the US, 90%+ of those who hold values that could be considered white supremacist, speak spanish.

    A handful of white nationalists speak english. Almost none of them are supremacist. The dominant attitude of racial aware english speaking people is one of complete separation with no desire whatsoever to, in any way, have our laws apply to other races. In other words, whatever they do, as long as it is on the other side of a strictly enforced border, is none of their business. Your average ultra-conservative “racist” in the US is basically a freaking liberal figuring out there is something wrong with that belief system but is so heavily brain-washed and indoctrinated that dismantling that control is a full time job and a life time commitment. 100% would freak right out if exposed to the idea of high walls, barbed wire and death squads sent out to cull non-white populations that you see south of our border. From within the safety of our own country that is. Better not so much as say one word if traveling abroad to these places. US people have money, not power….don’t ever forget that when a guest somewhere else. Liberalism, outside the US is communism. Communist countries consider them spies but non communist countries consider them vermin.

    Anyway….knowing this drastically changes the issues of white nationalism, white supremacy and the like. We have our conceits but the truth is, it just isn’t something of any real importance in the western world, yet.

    The truth is, the US and europe are various types of liberal, crazy liberal, liberal lite, liberals in denial and liberals just realizing that maybe race might be important.

    Anything non-liberal….look outside our country. For example….greece. A much more potent example….russia.

    When Putin (more likely his successor) figures out he can rebuild the old soviet union on white supremacism and proceeds to get all of eastern europe to willingly walk over to his side…THAT is something to watch.

    David Duke, Jared Taylor etc. Nice guys but, let’s be honest here. Most white people don’t even know who they are, let alone hold sympathy for this way of thinking.

  • Extropico

    The “supremacist” label is a gaming neg designed to keep down dissent while they reduce your percentage in society and divide and conquer.

  • Extropico

    I just got banned from a game/dating forum for objecting to its advocacy of the hateful notion of “White Privilege”. A poster there noted that science proves White girls have “privilege” because all races agree that they are more beautiful. They of course want various form of government action and government “incentives” for White males to act beta to reverse this nefarious White “privilege” of beauty. Most White “supremacists” are not even White.

  • freddy_hills

    I don’t often name the ‘Who?’ but in this case I’m going to have to throw it out there. He didn’t just denounce a certain behavior. He also engaged in religious and ethnic smears against the descendants of those who founded America. So I can’t ignore the fact that his attacks were motivated by a prejudice that runs a little deeper than mere politics.

  • Homo_Occidentalis

    Salon’s staff is replete with foaming-at-the-mouth “Social Justice Warriors” who despise all things white, male, and traditional. Most of their “writers” are wholly disconnected from the real world, and cannot fathom existence outside their white, bourgeois, feminist backgrounds. They can’t see that people don’t become racist for no reason. Intolerance is born through exposure. There’s a reason that whites from Maine are less “racist” than whites from Mississippi.

    • Alexandra1973

      Social justice, eh?

      I’ll shelve that along with war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength.

      • gemjunior

        Yup, and you’d be totally correct. I could almost feel his disdain dripping off his really boring, predictable article about “White Supremacists”. It reads like a homework assignment, which is what it was. His boss probably told him “Write some liberal claptrap about evil white people” and he said “ok, boss it’ll be on your desk tomorrow morning” and here we are.
        Despite every nonsensical word, there are more white people that don’t believe this anymore than do. Whites are fed up.

  • bubo

    This is just about the smug liberal feeling good about not being “one of the wrong type of white people.” Nothing more. Playing to his audience of buffoonish lib/blue state professional students, local music scene hipsters and other worthless adult children.

  • MBlanc46

    “They are alternate futures for an America in which the American dream
    ends when the alarm clock sounds. The side that wins will the the side
    with the most inspiring leaders and the most compelling messages.”

    It’s certainly a real possibility that the two movements (okay, it’s hard to call socialism a movement anymore) will remain opposed and in conflict. If so, we’re doomed. My hope is that localism will allow both (or even others) to prosper together.

  • Jenny Star

    ““Race blindness” leads working-class people to turn right; if they did
    see class, they’d turn left and make common cause with different races
    in the same economic class.”

    Except the Left hates those people. They spend a good portion of every single day mocking them.

  • ThomasER916

    Salon is “white” like Tim Wise is “white”.

    ADL is “white”
    $PLC is “white”
    Noel Ignatiev is “white”
    George Soros is “white”

    This list could go on forever.

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      Especially Noel Ignatiev who wants to “abolish the white race”. How white of him!

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        He is not white, he is Jewish who masquerades as a white.

        • JohnEngelman

          The vast majority of Jews are whites. Nevertheless, they tend to be quite a bit more intelligent than white Gentiles.

          • Fak_Zakaix

            White like the Chinese?

          • Svigor

            Nah. “White” = European. Many Jews are not white at all; few are more than 1/2 European. White does not mean 1/2 European. It means all-European.

          • JohnEngelman

            White means “Caucasian.” Arabs, Iranians, Afghans, and east Indians are white.

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            Non-European “whites” are mostly mixed-Caucasians just like mulattos and mestizos. We don’t classify mulattos and mestizos as Caucasians.

  • shawnmer

    One nearly universal liberal trait is their verbosity!

    For God’s sake, it doesn’t take 50 long, windy paragraphs to say NOTHING.

  • It’s like someone said on OD a few days ago about the latest Craig Cobb scandal: Whenever you see the media touting someone was a white racial leader, change the channel.

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    Born in Portlandia in the snivel rights era, raised by a divorced mother in housing projects in Southern California, Masters in English Lit., worked in the music industry, computers and government, I fit none of the “racist” stereotypes. If a former left-libertarian Chomsky reader like me can come around to White nationalism, the diversitard elites better be afraid. Very afraid.

    • ShermanTMcCoy

      We are quite a diverse bunch, which they will learn to their sorrow.

    • Kenner

      Awesome, my brother!

    • Carney3

      Interesting story

  • Spartacus

    “There’ll be no surrender
    To the reds or the moneylenders
    Come on all you lads, sing the Patriot’s Call !

    For we’ll not be mastered
    By no marxist bastard
    Come on all you lads, hear the Patriot’s Call !”

    http://www(DOT)youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=XaEC0cPVvJY

  • rightrightright

    Once again a professional, tax-funded Leftard purposely fudges the concepts of white separatism and “white supremacy” in order to bash white people for trying to survive and maintain their identity.

  • Danimalius

    Pro-whites are all working class people? Did the author not read Lauren Fox’s hitpiece against the NPI conference that appeared in Salon? It turns out Salon is so bad, its own writers aren’t even reading it.

  • Greg Thomas

    This article is racist!

  • John R

    UUUGGGHHHH, I don’t know WHERE to begin! But, I might just say ONE THING: With all the black on White violence that has occurred from the 1960’s to today, why no article about why so many blacks still hate Whites-even after Obama’s election? Why, when blacks are BETTER OFF in the USA today than they were in any other country IN HISTORY?

  • ViktorNN

    Ranting about “white supremacists” and entertaining paranoid fantasies about the world of neo-nazis, the KKK, militias, and far right extremists is a kind of porn for leftists. They flock to these articles, reaping lots of hits which is good news for their advertisers. Any so-called “white supremacist” who offers themselves up for these articles really should charge for their quotes.

    • Sick of it

      They don’t need to charge for their quotes, they get a check every week from the federal government.

  • itdoesnotmatter

    “Second, the extreme Right is extremely patriotic. They love their
    country, their flag, and everything it stands for. These are the guys
    who get teary at the playing of the national anthem..[snip]

    That describes me to a T, with one exception. I ‘used’ to love my country, though I still love my flag and get choked up when the National Anthem is sung reverentially.

    What lies, what a liar. I, as many of us on AmRen, am an authentic conservative and reality based racialist with a medical degree, all my teeth and good skin who listens to classical music, supports/attends the S.F. Symphony, is hooked on “Downton Abbey,” has read and rereads the classics, plays the piano, and more.
    How dare this creep categorize decent, hard working, educated people as he does in this article. Is this what DWLs really think? That we are all hillbilly, mentally challenged, uneducated, unwashed outliers?
    May he spend eternity on the Group W bench with litterers, father rapers and mother stabbers drinking cold coffee with no cream or sugar, listening to Lawrence Welk tapes played over and over and over.

    • DaveMed

      I wonder how you got through the training without going mad. I suspect my career would be greatly endangered if I were more vocal about my beliefs.

      • itdoesnotmatter

        Dave, I confess. I developed rhinoceros skin or the sensory onslaught would have destroyed me.
        A naive farm girl who knew about birth, life, death having witnessed, even assisted, in the raising and slaughtering of our own stock, nothing could have prepared me for what was to be seen, heard, sensed, psychically and viscerally experienced in the clinical training years ahead. Not to mention the shocking transition from quietly conservative, traditional family value rural life to chaotic, insane, anything goes urban existence. I still have flashbacks
        Alternatingly terrifying, exhilarating, enlightening, depressing, erosively stressful, but somehow joyous, I would not take untold wealth to have missed this ride.
        It helped to carefully select after hours social contacts and hanging out friends. Only those who shared my values, but were awake and aware.

        I changed, believe me I changed from naive farm girl to one ready to take on all human existence had to offer.

    • WR_the_realist

      I love the country I was born in. But that country doesn’t exist anymore. I hate the government that brought about the change. As for corporations, I have as much loyalty to them as they have to me. Zero.

      Kimmel would no doubt be dismayed to find that I have an advanced degree, have no television but so many books that the second largest room in my house is a library, and mostly listen to classical music. I have noticed that the favorite objects of the liberal’s devotion, blacks and Hispanics, have contributed the least to the civilization I care about.

      Like many leftists Kimmel believes that’s it’s in the interests of working class whites to to work with blacks and Hispanics against the rich. Actually it’s the rich who work with blacks and Hispanics to bring in more of them so as to keep wages low, bust unions, and crush the economic aspirations of the white working class.

      Many of the younger guys are veterans of the first Gulf War, a war that
      they came to believe was fought for no moral principles at all, but
      simply to make America’s oil supply safer and to protect Israel from
      possible Arab attack.

      So, is that belief in any way strange? If the Iraq war wasn’t about oil or defending Israel or some combination of the two, what the hell was it about? Does Kimmel seriously think that Dick Cheney suddenly developed a keen desire to bring democracy to Iraqis? Does he seriously think that Saddam Hussein had anything to do with Al Qaeda? The Iraq War was a war that the neocons had wanted for years, 911 just provided the excuse for it. I thought even the left had figured that much out.

  • JohnEngelman

    You might think that the political ideology of the white supremacist movement is as simple as their list of enemies: put down minorities, expel immigrants, push the women out of the workplace, and round up and execute the gays and the Jews.

    – Michael Kimmel, Salon, November 17, 2013

    I doubt many white nationalists want to “round up and execute the gays and the Jews.”

    They do want to restore the white, male, Gentile, heterosexual dominance that prevailed during the 1950’s when any white male Gentile who wasn’t “that way” could get a reasonably good job.

    They can’t. The toothpaste is out of the tube. The social and demographic changes that have happened since the end of 1963 cannot be reversed. Diversity is not our strength; it is a problem we have to manage.

    An additional problem is that computer technology reduces the economic value of jobs that can be learned by those of average and below average intelligence. This is where the rubber hits the road for white nationalists.

    • WR_the_realist

      Well, I think of the working class people I’ve hired over the past year. Some guys to install new floors and put in a new window. Some other guys to replace the leaking roof. Still more guys to install a new fireplace. None of them are in any danger of being replaced by robots any time soon. But all of them could be driven into penury by a sufficient number of cheaper illegal immigrants.

      And of course many white middle class programmers have been replaced by cheaper H-1b workers.

      • Sick of it

        John was one of those replaced people and yet he doesn’t seem bothered by it.

  • Luca

    The words Jew, Jewish or anti-Semite appear in this article approx. 7 times. Gee, I wonder if there is a subliminal message within? My goodness, are synagogues burning or are crosses burning on their lawns. Are we lynching rabbis? Have we passed new Nuremberg laws? What could provoke such alarm in this writer?

    Oh..never mind, this is just your typical run-of-the-mill anti-White propaganda which is yet another opportunity lamenting about our treatment of the poor, poor Jews.

  • WR_the_realist

    Why do I get the distinct impression that Michael Kimmel never bothered to actually sit down and talk with the people he disparages, to find out what they really think and what really motivates them?

  • scutum

    “They are firm believers in the free market and free enterprise. They just don’t like what it’s brought. They like capitalism; they just hate corporations.”
    Another economic illiterate pontificating about somehing he knows nothing about. Capitalism as advocated by Adam Smith has nothing to do with large corporations. The corporatism presently being promoted in the US as capitalsim is essentially a form of Fascism or crony Marxism.

    • Sick of it

      Corporations used to be illegal in this country.

      www (DOT) dailypaul (DOT) com/242191/the-founders-fought-for-freedom-against-corporate-control

  • Allan477

    When I was in my 20’s (50+ years ago) I left the Episcopal Church, which was becoming too liberal for my taste, to become a Roman Catholic. I soon discovered that the RC’s were the biggest bunch of racist hypocrites I had ever been in contact with. The average RC priest makes the KKK look like a bunch flaming liberals. I have wandered among various sects during my adulthood. Now, in my old age, I am just spiritually oriented, but with little real faith in any group, although I still do send my tithe once a year to the Mormon Church, whose one big attraction is that they do not have a professional clergy–at least outside of Utah, and as long as they stay there I find them pretty innocuous.

    • WR_the_realist

      If the Catholic Church is so racist, why is it now joining all the progressives in advocating for illegal alien amnesty?

    • ThomasER916

      Your probably don’t live on planet earth.

  • Allan477

    A “White Supremacist” seems to be anyone who just wants to be left alone to live is own life, without being pulled down by sub-humans.

  • WR_the_realist

    Socialism is the theory that the people in congress are more qualified to spend my own money than I am. Those are the same people who gave us the Iraq war, the TSA, and the Department of Education. No thanks.

  • Greg Thomas

    Their “acceptable alternative” is to push amnesty for some 30 million illegal invading mexicans, as well as diversity at every turn. Treasonous, White-hating liberals do not want to offer alternatives, they want Whites eliminated.

    • Young Werther

      So very true.

  • ThomasER916

    More like Al Jolson in Wonderland.

  • Sick of it

    White Christians. He wasn’t even technically the first Christian. When you follow the entire scriptures, Abraham was himself the first follower of Christ, as he followed Yahweh through absolute faith. Scumbag criminals who worship the devil and attack the followers of Christ aren’t exactly the same group.

    • Young Werther

      uhhhhhh, Jesus was of the ancient Hebrew people, a rebel, an outlaw as seen by the Jewish establishment of his time (as well as now) and so they wanted him dead. He was rasing hell at them not at the Romans, that’s why the Jewish leaders demanded his death, he was causing financial problems for them as well…he was a Jew with a mission, rebelling against Jewish Authority, not Roman Authority…all early Christians were Jews. Gentiles were not wanted…later on Gentiles cashed in on the *Jesus Story*, and that turned into a trick on the Jews…Abraham was the patriarch of the Hebrew people, not known as “Jews” in that period…he did not *follow* Jesus anywhere or in any sense for heavens sake…where do people come up with such things. ha ha One doesn’t have to be a Christian to know a little history…I am not trying to be a smart ass it’s just funny, that’s all.

      • Sick of it

        Congratulations on proving you are a non-Christian. Try reading the Bible and Christian History sometime (For instance – Egypt was filled with believers in the AD 50s, not generations after Christ’s death; many nations were filled with early converts). The Great Commission was given to the Apostles by Christ directly. All early Christians were Jews? Wow, read the Bible.

        Christ’s own words condemned the Jews who would not accept Him as the prophesied Messiah, as they preferred to follow the ways of their father the devil. He condemned the Jews for their worldly traditions. He cast the moneychangers out of the temple. He pointed out that Abraham was nothing like them, as he followed God out of a pure and unshakeable faith.

        Then there are the obvious genetic differences between the ancient Hebrew people and the modern so-called Jews. They were not part Mongoloid back then, but they had not had relations with the likes of the Khazars at that point in time.

        • Young Werther

          oh jesus

  • ” Geographically, they come from America’s heartland—small towns, rural
    cities, swelling suburban sprawl outside larger Sunbelt cities.”

    In other words, they are in the more integrated places rather than the all white, upper middle class gated whitopias.

    I have noticed that the places that are most racis’ are the places with the most races.

  • Kenner

    The ‘jews’ are trying to wrap themselves in the mantle of victimization despite their dominance in so many critical areas…
    They use the female tactic of ‘provoke, provoke, and provoke again– when the target reacts; they say ‘See how you are??!!’

  • Funruffian

    Michael Kimmel is most likely a homosexual who possesses a credibility so faint, that even a neutral reader can see through the preposterous lies and assumptions made in this article. This article is filled with abstractions on how it wants to portray the supposed “White Supremacist”. While castigating White heterosexual males, he wallows in this diatribe of making White Heteros seem paradoxically Anti-American.
    If we were to allow limp-wristed egalitarians, like Kimmel, run the country we would soon be on the fast track to self-destruction. These limp-wristed Pinkos would then squeal and cry like the wimps and pussies they are begging mama to save them.

    “These aren’t the prosperous towns, but the single-story working-class exurbs that stretch for what feels like forever in the corridor between Long Beach and San Diego (not the San Fernando Valley), or along the southern tier of Pennsylvania, or spread all through the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, across the vast high plains of eastern Washington and Oregon, through Idaho and Montana.”
    Is he on drugs or is he shooting in the dark? Both. I know The OC very well and I have never seen or known any people who fit his strange description of a White Supremacist. This article wants to insult and belittle, but doesn’t have the facts to back them.

  • Sick of it

    If Stalin felt that way, why did he marry Jewish women?

    • JohnEngelman

      What matters is that Jews as a group cannot be blamed for Soviet Communism.

      • Svigor

        Right. You can laud them for being a superior race, and give all Jews credit for the achievements of Einstein, et al., but no one gets to blame all Jews for the bad achievements of their fellow Jews.

        You’re like an accountant who won’t use subtraction; who doesn’t know that accounting involves red ink, as well as black. I.e., the kind no one hires.

        • “Accountant who won’t use subtraction…the kind no one hires”

          Ever hear of Arthur Andersen? The OMB? The CBO (when Democrats run Congress)?

        • JohnEngelman

          You can always find this or that Jew who was a bad person. The only three areas where Jews differ collectively from Gentiles is in their religion, their higher average intelligence, and the greater prosperity their intelligence earns for them.

    • Fak_Zakaix

      And was served by Jews in Russia and worldwide up until his death?

      • Sick of it

        If you recall, the peacenik socialists in America turned a 180 as soon as the Soviet Union was invaded by Germany…

    • Svigor

      Why did he cohabit pretty much exclusively with Jewish women?

  • Young Werther

    “Their rage is …as impotent as it is shrill.”

    (I rather doubt it)

    “…the white supremacist… they have to navigate some treacherous ideological waters and reconcile seemingly contradictory ideological visions with their emotions.”.

    (Absurd, why is that necessary?)

    “…the extreme Right is extremely patriotic. They love their country, their flag, and everything it stands for.”

    (Ha, I wouldn’t say that! This writer apparently doesn’t know the *extreme right* at all.)

    “They feel they’ve been used, pawns in a larger political game, serving their country honorably only to be spit out and stepped on when they returned home to slashed veteran benefits, bureaucratic indifference to post-traumatic stress disorder, and general social contempt for having fought in the war in the first place.”

    (I believe that is called a contradiction.)

    “…they believe themselves to be the true heirs of the real America. They are the ones who are entitled to inherit the bounty of the American system. It’s their birthright—as native-born, white American men.”
    (There is something wrong with this?)
    (Another Critical Theorist trying to practice his Critical Theory, and not doing a very good job of it.)

  • Young Werther

    Thank god.

  • Fak_Zakaix

    People should read Solzhenitsyn’s “Two Hundred Years Together” to learn of the massive involvement of Jews in the Bolshevik regimes of Russian and Eastern Block countries.

  • Svigor

    Ditto on all ideological counts.

  • Svigor

    I’ve got a lot of redneck in me, in the sense that I share a lot of their values and disdain SWPLs. Maybe that explains our differences.

  • Svigor

    Which ethno-religious group hounded Jesus throughout the most important parts of his life? Which tried to kill him at every turn? Which opposed him the most in his lifetime? Which howled the loudest for Pilate to crucify him? Which has hated his teachings the most throughout history?

    Just sayin’, if you want to drag up Scripture and history, well, be careful what you wish for.

  • Svigor

    Please, regale us with more irrelevant facts. E.g., tell us what percentage of the population have been monarchs, over history.

    • JohnEngelman

      The Davidic dynasty in Isreal/Judah was the second longest surviving dynasty, second only to the dynasty of the Emperor of Japan.

      Ashkenazi Jews were persecuted and discriminated against until the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. Now they dominate every environment that rewards superior intelligence.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    All they will accomplish is push enough of us into a corner, and then we will start coming after THEM.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    That we will, that we will. And you can be sure it will be the sort of catharsis my Russian or Ukrainian ancestors got when they avenged the death and suffering Muslims, Mongols or other Europeans created. The coming catharsis for us will come through rivers of enemy blood in our streets.

  • OhWow

    I wonder how they explain Jared Taylor, the author of “The Bell Curve”, and other brilliant men who are wealthy. Also, there are many conservatives surrounding NYC on the outskirts. They’d never admit it, but it’s true. That’s one of the wealthiest places in the country.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    The evidence they were the masterminds and the executioners is overwhelming. You are talking to a man whose family lost a LOT of people to these Jewish murders who never were punished for their crimes. Do not lecture me on blood libel, every day my race is blood libeled by Jews and people like you. Do I make myself clear?

  • WR_the_realist

    Do they have as much immigration as the United States? (The answer is no, because no other country has anywhere near as much immigration as we do.) That is the main reason for the wage disparity.

    Our public debt is due both to the burgeoning demands for entitlements of any ever more diverse population and the idiots who think that America must be world cop and thus spend about two thirds as much on the military as every other country combined.

    • JohnEngelman

      Our public debt has grown since the election of Ronald Reagan because he convinced most Republicans that tax cuts generate more tax revenue than tax increases.

      • WR_the_realist

        Reagan cut income taxes but he didn’t halve them. But now income taxes would have to double to eliminate the deficit. So you can’t blame the whole deficit on the Reagan tax cuts. Now I agree that it is irresponsible to have tax cuts without matching cuts in spending. The Republicans never did cut the spending.

        • JohnEngelman

          In his book “The Triumph of Politics: Why the Reagan Revolution Failed” David Stockman, makes it clear that the cuts were not made because most Republicans would have opposed them. The Reagan Revolution failed because it was dishonest.

          • WR_the_realist

            Well, I can agree with that. Aside from signing on to the 1986 amnesty (which he later regretted) Reagan’s most unforgivable sin was making “conservatives” comfortable with massive deficits.

  • That was my point in a round about way. Been there, done that. The ones that aren’t smokescreens full of Federal alphabet gang and paranoia-industrial complex alphabet gang stooges, are full of your general run of the mill (racial pejorative redacted)-loving aracial rightist patriotards.

    Because…Amurrika.

  • Emperor Naked

    Funny how this diatribe seems to celebrate the stated fact that working class white males are being phased out into a sort of peasant, “white trash” definition while predicting the very same triggers for potential eventual societal upheavals of crime and disorder that Liberals have traditionally found as an excuse for things like black crime, drug use, underachievement, etc. In this case, the author lays it on with exaltation.