Why Have Young People in Japan Stopped Having Sex?

Abigail Haworth, Guardian (London), October 20, 2013

Ai Aoyama is a sex and relationship counsellor who works out of her narrow three-storey home on a Tokyo back street. Her first name means “love” in Japanese, and is a keepsake from her earlier days as a professional dominatrix. Back then, about 15 years ago, she was Queen Ai, or Queen Love, and she did “all the usual things” like tying people up and dripping hot wax on their nipples. Her work today, she says, is far more challenging. Aoyama, 52, is trying to cure what Japan‘s media calls sekkusu shinai shokogun, or “celibacy syndrome”.

Japan’s under-40s appear to be losing interest in conventional relationships. Millions aren’t even dating, and increasing numbers can’t be bothered with sex. For their government, “celibacy syndrome” is part of a looming national catastrophe. Japan already has one of the world’s lowest birth rates. Its population of 126 million, which has been shrinking for the past decade, is projected to plunge a further one-third by 2060. Aoyama believes the country is experiencing “a flight from human intimacy” – and it’s partly the government’s fault.

The sign outside her building says “Clinic”. She greets me in yoga pants and fluffy animal slippers, cradling a Pekingese dog whom she introduces as Marilyn Monroe. In her business pamphlet, she offers up the gloriously random confidence that she visited North Korea in the 1990s and squeezed the testicles of a top army general. It doesn’t say whether she was invited there specifically for that purpose, but the message to her clients is clear: she doesn’t judge.

Inside, she takes me upstairs to her “relaxation room”–a bedroom with no furniture except a double futon. “It will be quiet in here,” she says. Aoyama’s first task with most of her clients is encouraging them “to stop apologising for their own physical existence”.

The number of single people has reached a record high. A survey in 2011 found that 61% of unmarried men and 49% of women aged 18-34 were not in any kind of romantic relationship, a rise of almost 10% from five years earlier. Another study found that a third of people under 30 had never dated at all. (There are no figures for same-sex relationships.) Although there has long been a pragmatic separation of love and sex in Japan–a country mostly free of religious morals–sex fares no better. A survey earlier this year by the Japan Family Planning Association (JFPA) found that 45% of women aged 16-24 “were not interested in or despised sexual contact”. More than a quarter of men felt the same way.

Many people who seek her out, says Aoyama, are deeply confused. “Some want a partner, some prefer being single, but few relate to normal love and marriage.” However, the pressure to conform to Japan’s anachronistic family model of salaryman husband and stay-at-home wife remains. “People don’t know where to turn. They’re coming to me because they think that, by wanting something different, there’s something wrong with them.”

Official alarmism doesn’t help. Fewer babies were born here in 2012 than any year on record. (This was also the year, as the number of elderly people shoots up, that adult incontinence pants outsold baby nappies in Japan for the first time.) Kunio Kitamura, head of the JFPA, claims the demographic crisis is so serious that Japan “might eventually perish into extinction”.

Japan’s under-40s won’t go forth and multiply out of duty, as postwar generations did. The country is undergoing major social transition after 20 years of economic stagnation. It is also battling against the effects on its already nuclear-destruction-scarred psyche of 2011’s earthquake, tsunami and radioactive meltdown. There is no going back. “Both men and women say to me they don’t see the point of love. They don’t believe it can lead anywhere,” says Aoyama. “Relationships have become too hard.”

Marriage has become a minefield of unattractive choices. Japanese men have become less career-driven, and less solvent, as lifetime job security has waned. Japanese women have become more independent and ambitious. Yet conservative attitudes in the home and workplace persist. Japan’s punishing corporate world makes it almost impossible for women to combine a career and family, while children are unaffordable unless both parents work. Cohabiting or unmarried parenthood is still unusual, dogged by bureaucratic disapproval.

Aoyama says the sexes, especially in Japan’s giant cities, are “spiralling away from each other”. Lacking long-term shared goals, many are turning to what she terms “Pot Noodle love” – easy or instant gratification, in the form of casual sex, short-term trysts and the usual technological suspects: online porn, virtual-reality “girlfriends”, anime cartoons. Or else they’re opting out altogether and replacing love and sex with other urban pastimes.

Some of Aoyama’s clients are among the small minority who have taken social withdrawal to a pathological extreme. They are recovering hikikomori (“shut-ins” or recluses) taking the first steps to rejoining the outside world, otaku (geeks), and long-term parasaito shingurus(parasite singles) who have reached their mid-30s without managing to move out of home. (Of the estimated 13 million unmarried people in Japan who currently live with their parents, around three million are over the age of 35.) “A few people can’t relate to the opposite sex physically or in any other way. They flinch if I touch them,” she says. “Most are men, but I’m starting to see more women.”

Aoyama cites one man in his early 30s, a virgin, who can’t get sexually aroused unless he watches female robots on a game similar to Power Rangers. “I use therapies, such as yoga and hypnosis, to relax him and help him to understand the way that real human bodies work.” Sometimes, for an extra fee, she gets naked with her male clients – “strictly no intercourse” – to physically guide them around the female form. Keen to see her nation thrive, she likens her role in these cases to that of the Edo period courtesans, or oiran, who used to initiate samurai sons into the art of erotic pleasure.

Aversion to marriage and intimacy in modern life is not unique to Japan. Nor is growing preoccupation with digital technology. But what endless Japanese committees have failed to grasp when they stew over the country’s procreation-shy youth is that, thanks to official shortsightedness, the decision to stay single often makes perfect sense. This is true for both sexes, but it’s especially true for women. “Marriage is a woman’s grave,” goes an old Japanese saying that refers to wives being ignored in favour of mistresses. For Japanese women today, marriage is the grave of their hard-won careers.

I meet Eri Tomita, 32, over Saturday morning coffee in the smart Tokyo district of Ebisu. Tomita has a job she loves in the human resources department of a French-owned bank. A fluent French speaker with two university degrees, she avoids romantic attachments so she can focus on work. “A boyfriend proposed to me three years ago. I turned him down when I realised I cared more about my job. After that, I lost interest in dating. It became awkward when the question of the future came up.”

Tomita says a woman’s chances of promotion in Japan stop dead as soon as she marries. “The bosses assume you will get pregnant.” Once a woman does have a child, she adds, the long, inflexible hours become unmanageable. “You have to resign. You end up being a housewife with no independent income. It’s not an option for women like me.”

Around 70% of Japanese women leave their jobs after their first child. The World Economic Forum consistently ranks Japan as one of the world’s worst nations for gender equality at work. Social attitudes don’t help. Married working women are sometimes demonised as oniyome, or “devil wives”. In a telling Japanese ballet production of Bizet’s Carmen a few years ago, Carmen was portrayed as a career woman who stole company secrets to get ahead and then framed her lowly security-guard lover José. Her end was not pretty.

Prime minister Shinzo Abe recently trumpeted long-overdue plans to increase female economic participation by improving conditions and daycare, but Tomita says things would have to improve “dramatically” to compel her to become a working wife and mother. “I have a great life. I go out with my girl friends – career women like me – to French and Italian restaurants. I buy stylish clothes and go on nice holidays. I love my independence.”

Tomita sometimes has one-night stands with men she meets in bars, but she says sex is not a priority, either. “I often get asked out by married men in the office who want an affair. They assume I’m desperate because I’m single.” She grimaces, then shrugs. “Mendokusai.”

Mendokusai translates loosely as “Too troublesome” or “I can’t be bothered”. It’s the word I hear both sexes use most often when they talk about their relationship phobia. Romantic commitment seems to represent burden and drudgery, from the exorbitant costs of buying property in Japan to the uncertain expectations of a spouse and in-laws. And the centuries-old belief that the purpose of marriage is to produce children endures. Japan’s Institute of Population and Social Security reports an astonishing 90% of young women believe that staying single is “preferable to what they imagine marriage to be like”.

The sense of crushing obligation affects men just as much. Satoru Kishino, 31, belongs to a large tribe of men under 40 who are engaging in a kind of passive rebellion against traditional Japanese masculinity. Amid the recession and unsteady wages, men like Kishino feel that the pressure on them to be breadwinning economic warriors for a wife and family is unrealistic. They are rejecting the pursuit of both career and romantic success.

“It’s too troublesome,” says Kishino, when I ask why he’s not interested in having a girlfriend. “I don’t earn a huge salary to go on dates and I don’t want the responsibility of a woman hoping it might lead to marriage.” Japan’s media, which has a name for every social kink, refers to men like Kishino as “herbivores” or soshoku danshi (literally, “grass-eating men”). Kishino says he doesn’t mind the label because it’s become so commonplace. He defines it as “a heterosexual man for whom relationships and sex are unimportant”.

The phenomenon emerged a few years ago with the airing of a Japanese manga-turned-TV show. The lead character in Otomen (“Girly Men”) was a tall martial arts champion, the king of tough-guy cool. Secretly, he loved baking cakes, collecting “pink sparkly things” and knitting clothes for his stuffed animals. To the tooth-sucking horror of Japan’s corporate elders, the show struck a powerful chord with the generation they spawned.

Kishino, who works at a fashion accessories company as a designer and manager, doesn’t knit. But he does like cooking and cycling, and platonic friendships. “I find some of my female friends attractive but I’ve learned to live without sex. Emotional entanglements are too complicated,” he says. “I can’t be bothered.”

Romantic apathy aside, Kishino, like Tomita, says he enjoys his active single life. Ironically, the salaryman system that produced such segregated marital roles – wives inside the home, husbands at work for 20 hours a day – also created an ideal environment for solo living. Japan’s cities are full of conveniences made for one, from stand-up noodle bars to capsule hotels to the ubiquitous konbini (convenience stores), with their shelves of individually wrapped rice balls and disposable underwear. These things originally evolved for salarymen on the go, but there are now female-only cafés, hotel floors and even the odd apartment block. And Japan’s cities are extraordinarily crime-free.

Some experts believe the flight from marriage is not merely a rejection of outdated norms and gender roles. It could be a long-term state of affairs. “Remaining single was once the ultimate personal failure,” says Tomomi Yamaguchi, a Japanese-born assistant professor of anthropology at Montana State University in America. “But more people are finding they prefer it.” Being single by choice is becoming, she believes, “a new reality”.

Is Japan providing a glimpse of all our futures? Many of the shifts there are occurring in other advanced nations, too. Across urban Asia, Europe and America, people are marrying later or not at all, birth rates are falling, single-occupant households are on the rise and, in countries where economic recession is worst, young people are living at home. But demographer Nicholas Eberstadt argues that a distinctive set of factors is accelerating these trends in Japan. These factors include the lack of a religious authority that ordains marriage and family, the country’s precarious earthquake-prone ecology that engenders feelings of futility, and the high cost of living and raising children.

“Gradually but relentlessly, Japan is evolving into a type of society whose contours and workings have only been contemplated in science fiction,”Eberstadt wrote last year. With a vast army of older people and an ever-dwindling younger generation, Japan may become a “pioneer people” where individuals who never marry exist in significant numbers, he said.

Japan’s 20-somethings are the age group to watch. Most are still too young to have concrete future plans, but projections for them are already laid out. According to the government’s population institute, women in their early 20s today have a one-in-four chance of never marrying. Their chances of remaining childless are even higher: almost 40%.

They don’t seem concerned. Emi Kuwahata, 23, and her friend, Eri Asada, 22, meet me in the shopping district of Shibuya. The café they choose is beneath an art gallery near the train station, wedged in an alley between pachinko pinball parlours and adult video shops. Kuwahata, a fashion graduate, is in a casual relationship with a man 13 years her senior. “We meet once a week to go clubbing,” she says. “I don’t have time for a regular boyfriend. I’m trying to become a fashion designer.” Asada, who studied economics, has no interest in love. “I gave up dating three years ago. I don’t miss boyfriends or sex. I don’t even like holding hands.”

Asada insists nothing happened to put her off physical contact. She just doesn’t want a relationship and casual sex is not a good option, she says, because “girls can’t have flings without being judged”. Although Japan is sexually permissive, the current fantasy ideal for women under 25 is impossibly cute and virginal. Double standards abound.

In the Japan Family Planning Association’s 2013 study on sex among young people, there was far more data on men than women. I asked the association’s head, Kunio Kitamura, why. “Sexual drive comes from males,” said the man who advises the government. “Females do not experience the same levels of desire.”

Over iced tea served by skinny-jeaned boys with meticulously tousled hair, Asada and Kuwahata say they share the usual singleton passions of clothes, music and shopping, and have hectic social lives. But, smart phones in hand, they also admit they spend far more time communicating with their friends via online social networks than seeing them in the flesh. Asada adds she’s spent “the past two years” obsessed with a virtual game that lets her act as a manager of a sweet shop.

Japanese-American author Roland Kelts, who writes about Japan’s youth, says it’s inevitable that the future of Japanese relationships will be largely technology driven. “Japan has developed incredibly sophisticated virtual worlds and online communication systems. Its smart phone apps are the world’s most imaginative.” Kelts says the need to escape into private, virtual worlds in Japan stems from the fact that it’s an overcrowded nation with limited physical space. But he also believes the rest of the world is not far behind.

Getting back to basics, former dominatrix Ai Aoyama – Queen Love – is determined to educate her clients on the value of “skin-to-skin, heart-to-heart” intimacy. She accepts that technology will shape the future, but says society must ensure it doesn’t take over. “It’s not healthy that people are becoming so physically disconnected from each other,” she says. “Sex with another person is a human need that produces feel-good hormones and helps people to function better in their daily lives.”

Aoyama says she sees daily that people crave human warmth, even if they don’t want the hassle of marriage or a long-term relationship. She berates the government for “making it hard for single people to live however they want” and for “whipping up fear about the falling birth rate”. Whipping up fear in people, she says, doesn’t help anyone. And that’s from a woman who knows a bit about whipping.

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  • A subconscious reaction to Japan being so crowded, perhaps?

    • Voice of Reason

      Not sure if population is the major factor. Of course, Tokyo is a concrete jungle like Manhattan, however, a large portion is still agricultural land. My thought is perhaps decades of Westernization took its toll (they love the cRappers, for instance) and maybe the male is akin to the wimpy American wigger. Given that there is a sizable illegal African contingent that goes unmolested by the authorities, look for magical negro to mop up the “needs” of the female.

      • So CAL Snowman

        The Younger Japanese are also really addicted to video games and anime. They have this thing called “cosplay” where the girls dress up like the sexy anime characters seen on the tv. The Young Japanese are also very into internet porn.

        • Nathanwartooth

          It’s all IQ and thinking ahead.

          Why do you think the IQ 100+ races are declining in birth rates while the races that are under the 100 IQ average are rising in birth rates?

          Birth control has become so effective that people don’t have to have kids if they don’t want to anymore. Birth control is extremely dysgenic because low IQ people don’t use it while high IQ people do.

          So your argument is that if they didn’t have porn, people would have sex more often and forget to use birth control? That is a pretty silly argument.

          • Massinissa

            Yes, smarter people tend to be less driven by their instincts, and have a more pragmatic view of relationships.

      • NM156

        Population is the major factor. Tokyo is not comparable to Manhattan; it’s more like the Los Angeles of Blade Runner. With food prices as high as they are in Japan, those agricultural lands won’t see much more plowing under for development. Japan is a net food importer.

    • Erasmus

      Pity it’s not Africans or poorly-educated latinos who’ve stopped having sex.

    • Le Fox

      Not at all. It has more to do with their perverted culture.

      Ever heard of fleshlights?

      • No, and I’m not going to google it, either. I fear that it’s the kind of thing that, once I see it, I’ll never be able to unsee it.

        • Spartacus

          “The Fleshlight is a brand of sex toys
          designed for penetration and marketed primarily to heterosexual men.
          The Fleshlight is designed and marketed by Interactive Life Forms (ILF).[1] The Fleshlight is named for the flesh-like
          material used in its inner sleeve, as well as the plastic case that
          houses the sleeve, which is fashioned to look like an oversized flashlight. The inner sleeve is available with vulva, anus, and mouth orifices.[citation needed]

          The inner sleeves come in colors of flesh (from a variety of
          ethnicities) and ice/crystal (see-through), as well as a limited edition
          blue color for an Avatar-like look, and 48 different internal textures[2] (6 original, 15 girls, 10 special, 5 Sex-in-a-Can and 12 boys textures). The Fleshlight was designed by Steve Shubin.[3] He was granted a patent in 1998 for his invention, as a “device for discreet sperm collection”.[4] It was also designed to be a safer alternative to real sex, considering STDs, pregnancy, and involuntary celibacy.[5]

          The “Fleshlight Girls” brand consists of custom-molded masturbation
          sleeves molded from the bodies of popular pornstars. These are made from
          exact molds of the star’s vulva, mouth, or anus. Current Fleshlight
          Girls are Jessica Drake, Bibi Jones, Kayden Kross, Riley Steele, Lisa Ann, Asa Akira, Katsuni, Tera Patrick, Jesse Jane, Tori Black, Stoya, Jenna Haze, Teagan Presley, Misty Stone, Alexis Texas, Ariel Piper Fawn, and Nina Hartley.[6]”

          I didn’t put any pictures, so as to preserve your innocence, but believe it or not, this is one of the less freaky things they do over there…

  • Pelagian

    Money-quote: “Is Japan providing a glimpse of all our futures? Many of the shifts there are occurring in other advanced nations, too. Across urban Asia, Europe and America, people are marrying later or not at all, birth rates are falling, single-occupant households are on the rise and, in countries where economic recession is worst, young people are living at home. But demographer Nicholas Eberstadt argues that a distinctive set of factors is accelerating these trends in Japan. These factors include the lack of a religious authority that ordains marriage and family…”

    • Oil Can Harry

      Correct. The rise of atheism and feminism in Asia and the West has led to population decline.

      There are other factors to be sure, such as rising living standards but those two comprise a deadly 1-2 punch.

    • Norseman

      I think an additional factor, as least as far as the western countries are concerned is an idealized notion of true love. People in earlier times were more practical out of necessity and more inclined to marry for non-romantic reason.

      My grandaunt who is turning increasingly senile admitted to me that she married her late husband because she was panicking at the quite young age of 26.

  • D.B. Cooper

    I’m so tired of all of these leftists wringing their hands at Japan’s apparently shrinking population. If that country dropped 50% of its population, it would still be overcrowded.

    • Kenner

      Exactly–the shrinking population, while causing some short-term disruption, heralds a better quality of life for the Japanese. Anyone remember the ‘morgue-drawer’ hotels used by traveling business men in the ’90’s?
      Japan is blessed with natural beauty, and the prospect of a contracting population enables them to keep those areas unsullied and a balm for the soul.

      • Exactly. I think 120 million people packed into a mountainous nation the size of California isn’t a good thing for their natural environment, and it is a pretty country. I’ve never been to Hokkaido, but I hear it’s nice, and that the salmon fishing is great.

        The only serious potential problem with this “baby-bust” is that a relatively small number of workers will eventually be supporting a large number of old-age pensioners. I can’t see how that would work very well, except by drastically increasing worker productivity via additional automation. This would require Japanese corporations to bite the bullet and pony up some heavy investment, in a time when their economy is already soft.

    • So CAL Snowman

      Exactly, how many people do they think the tiny island of Japan can support? They have hotels over there that are basically stacks of cages on top of one another like dog kennels in the US. At any rate it really won’t matter what the Japanese do if they can’t get the Fukushima situation under control.

    • Charles W.

      Amen. Japan fought World War II with HALF its current population size. In other words, they sent most of their men throughout the Pacific to fight the Western World while the Japanese men left in Japan turned out Mitsubishi Zeroes like mad. Given that fact, I think modern day Japan will somehow manage to figure out how to change a few extra elderly people’s diapers.

      Of course, however, you do realize that the anti-Japan propaganda is really pressure from ‘the elites’ to force them to destroy themselves with third world immigration just the same as the West is doing.

      • Kenner

        It’s fun watching the ‘non-eskimos’ exhorting the Japanese to self-destruct, and being met with a blank stare.

    • Massinissa

      The problem is that sudden drop in birthrates are bad for the economy. A capitalist economy, at least. And the Japanese authorities may resort to non-Japanese immigration.

    • NM156

      …and as many rightists, a long list of whom have been bemoaning the fate of Germany, Italy, Japan, et al.

      • Sentinel9

        Whites ARE capital for non-whites in South Africa, and increasingly the United States.

        Labor is increasingly non-white and it votes.

  • Stentorian_Commentator

    Can we apply some of whatever that is to blacks and hispanics here? It would help.

    • Spartacus

      They don’t have the necessary IQ…

      • Whitetrashgang

        No their too feral, maybe spay or neuter clinics are needed. In fact that’s something we can all get behind.

    • Chris Granzow XI

      IQ? I wish….

  • D.B. Cooper

    YIKES!!!!!!
    her earlier days as a professional dominatrix. Back then, about 15 years ago, she was Queen Ai, or Queen Love, and she did “all the usual things” like tying people up and dripping hot wax on their nipples.

    That’s just too much for me to handle tonight.
    Well, you Japanese men. You had better quit moping around, other men are after your Hitomi Tanaka types, and the white man has the best chance of getting her. Of course, not all Japanese women look like Hitomi, or anywhere nearly… endowed.

    • Kenner

      Ah, more Japanese technology….

      • D.B. Cooper

        Oh no, those are real. You can look her up if you don’t believe me.

      • Spartacus

        I can assure you they’re real – I’ve studied the matter in-depth, at hand .

    • Greg Thomas

      Good grief!

      • Kenner

        HaHaHa!!

    • #pastryShelf

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Sorry, she doesn’t look right with a bust that big…..if she is that way naturally, I would say she has European blood in her ancestry.

      • Homo_Occidentalis

        Or more likely some Ainu blood. The Ainu, who were Japan’s earliest inhabitants, display a strange mix of Caucasian and Oriental features and are now mostly limited to remote parts of Hokkaido. As ethnic purity is highly valued in Japan, most Yamato Japanese understate any mixing that might have happened between themselves and the Ainu, particularly on Hokkaido island.

        • The Ainu resemblance to Caucasians is an accidental result of convergent evolution. They are the original Jomon Japanese, but they aren’t very closely related to Europeans at all.

      • Screamin_Ruffed_Grouse

        Oh yeah, ’cause y’know, nobody on this site likes those damned busty European women.

  • Spartacus

    “I have a great life. I go out with my girl friends – career women like
    me – to French and Italian restaurants. I buy stylish clothes and go on
    nice holidays. I love my independence.”

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    Wait until you’re in your 50s . You’ll suffer like the dumb whore that you are, and I’m happy you will .

    • JohnEngelman

      Always full of hate, aren’t you Spartacus?

      • So CAL Snowman

        Oh please Engelman, for us warriors of the White race it’s called Righteous Indignation. Hate is for the lesser peoples. Spartacus you are my brother.

        • Tim_in_Indiana

          I think Spartacus’ Indignation is misdirected. The woman he’s referring to is not harming anyone and is simply refusing to procreate. Don’t see how that hurts whites in any way.

          • Spartacus

            Not directly, but such attitudes come with a great cost, that we all endure . The Japs are one of the few non-Whites I don’t hate, and they’re not reproducing, while all the ones I do hate breed like cockroaches…

          • Kenner

            I agree, the Japanese, despite some flaws, and by flaws, I mean yawning chasms of weirdness, are overall, an admirable race.

      • Spartacus

        Yep .

        • JohnEngelman

          I wonder if you were born that way, or if horrible things happened to you.

          • Spartacus

            I was born this way, and I know I’m on the right track because Lady Gaga told me so .

          • Kenner

            LOL!!!

          • NM156

            Engelman to himself: “Lady GaGa?”

          • Horrible things happen to everyone.

          • JohnEngelman

            Most of us manage to go on with their lives. Those who project anger and hatred reveal bad characters and diseased minds.

          • You’re not allowing for age. I’m 47, so Spartacus is young enough to be my son. You’re old enough to have protested the Vietnam war, yes?

          • JohnEngelman

            Hate filled fanatics are of any age.

          • Sometimes people slow down a bit.

    • Would you really want a woman that shallow to try her hand at raising children? She’s someone who made a career out of tying guys up and dripping hot wax on them. This is the human emotional, moral and intellectual equivalent of canine hip dysplasia. This gal is not good breeding stock.

      • Spartacus

        That wasn’t a quote from the dominatrix, but from another, younger girl interviewed for the article .

  • JohnEngelman

    Why Have Young People in Japan Stopped Having Sex?

    It is not because Japanese women are not beautiful.

    • sbuffalonative

      You’re the only one who posts here with an Asian fetish. No one else is obsessed with your peculiar idea of alleged Asian beauty. And frankly, if you’re white, it isn’t natural or normal.

      • Engleman’s Yellow Fever is harmless.
        Let’s celebrate his not having Jungle Fever.

        • Whitetrashgang

          If johnny had jungle fever we would all be dead.

        • Mike Lau

          What’s wrong with ‘jungle’ fever.

          Some African women are beautiful — for example Winnie Mandela in her younger years – I’m sure you would not even turn her down.

          And certainly the good ol boys in slavery and segregation days did not either ala Strom Thurmond.

          • For lack of a better word, Asians are a far superior breed when compared to Africans.

            > I would not touch Wiener Mandela with a 10 foot “necklace”.

            I’ve known some very decent black women, but they have a lot of baggage, i.e., black friends, black family members, etc.

            I admit to having a touch of yellow fever myself.
            There are a great number of Asian chicks that are beautiful, smart, hard working, ethical, . . . what’s not to like?

      • D.B. Cooper

        Hey, I had a Filipina girlfriend once. She was a babe. Only the Czech girlfriend I had before her was better quality. As for her attitude toward blacks, she made ME look like a Kardashian.

        Ah well. Working 3-11pm, and Tuesdays and Wednesdays off can kill a relationship. My current girl is white, but a consolation prize.

        If you find a girl with a Scandinavian father with blond hair and blue eyes, but had a Chinese or Japanese mother, she may be brunette, but still carries the DNA to have white kids.

        The trouble is when you turn down ten Asian girls who have a realistic shot of being Miss Universe because you are hoping for a Kate Upton, but if Kate doesn’t come around, eventually your only options might be Rosie O’Donnell or Melissa McCarthy (Mike & Molly).

        It doesn’t help at work (airport) either. I see too many white, black, and Chicana women not taking pride in how they appear. Shoes with no heels, pants that don’t fit right, and not wanting to be presentable. Most of the Asian women, on the other hand, often opt for the skirt uniforms with hose, skirts, and heels.
        I see Miss Japan is 5’8″. I wonder if she’s a full blood.

        • Hard to say about her being 5’8″. After World War Two, the Japanese diet changed quite a bit, and they generally got taller.

        • Mike Lau

          Most beautiful, sexy woman I ever saw in my life was this beautiful filipina at a topless bar in Tsim Sha Tsui in Kowloon. Long silky black hair (unlike the coarse chinese hair), nice shapely breasts, much more buxom than your average chinese – incredibly sensual.

          The Chinese guys eschew them for reasons that are largely status and class related. Whites tend to have no such scruples and it seems three quarters the filipinas in HK are married to whites.

        • Mike Lau

          Hey, I had a Filipina girlfriend once. She was a babe……

          And you call yourself a white nationalist???

          • D.B. Cooper

            I’ve met enough white losers, morons, short, fat, flabby, anorexic, dumb, and with a host of genetic flaws. A lot of them tend to be members of the Democratic Party.
            Top tier and high caste exotic women are a better alternative if you can’t get a Maria Sharapova, or realize that Sandra Bullock and Jennifer Aniston are too old to even give you any kids.
            So, give your kids 23 of your chromosomes, and hope your kids have the abilities to reach the higher classes, and avoid the lowest class.
            I’ll admit a bias. if I had half Asian children, I would rather they be female. Half white Asian girls have a good chance of keeping up with white women across the board, and I would rather they marry a white guy of course.

      • Mike Lau

        Actually it is completely normal for men to be aroused by attractive women – regardless of their race. Entire continents full of mixed-bloods (Central Asia, South America etc) demonstrate this truth.

        As Miles Davis once said, “a hard dick has no color consciousness”

        • sbuffalonative

          “a hard dick has no color consciousness”

          That quote sounds like something an impulsive rapist would say.

          As for your comment on mixed-bloods. People make choices good and bad. You seem to believe that the fact since people of different races interbreed, this is somehow proof that interracial breading is normal if not good. It isn’t. It may happen but it’s not normal or natural. Interbreeding is driven by proximity not nature. It’s neither natural, normal, or good.

          • Mike Lau

            I reckon it is completely natural. If any man of any race is around females he will be attracted to them sooner or later. If he is brought up surrounded by whites, he will most likely find white women to be his ideal. If he is brought up in Papua New Guinea he will like Papua New Guinean women. And nine out of ten white men in Hong Kong ditch their white wives and copulate with local women —even though some of those local women, judging by Chinese standards, are ugly as sin.

            It is a source of amusement among the locals here, how whites will be attracted to the ugliest Phillipino maid or any other type of Asian women. It seems that many white men they are simply attracted to the Asianess and could hardly tell the difference between say, the actress Gong Li on the one hand, and the ugliest hill-tribe woman on the other.

          • Mike Lau

            It may happen but it’s not normal or natural.

            Actually most females of marriageable age in close proximity will cause a stirring in the loins of most ‘normal’ men.

            Are you telling me that if Beyonce was within centimeters of you, you would feel nothing?

            I’d say it would be abnormal not to.

          • Mike Lau

            something an impulsive rapist would say

            Really? I don’t get you.

            So if you found yourself next to a non-white woman and you felt a twinge of lust, what are you going to do? Smack your head against a concrete wall?

    • So CAL Snowman

      I guess, if you’re into women that look like effeminate 14 year old boys.

    • Spartacus

      It’s because Anime characters are better !

      • Sick of it

        Uggh, the never-ending 2D woman vs 3D woman argument.

  • Whitetrashgang

    Japanese woman look like space aliens, perhaps in the future there will be no sex for some races.

    • D.B. Cooper

      It’s better for most of us for some lonely white man with few options to marry a full blooded Asian woman, then the better looking hybrid females will be better options for the rest of us.
      You, on the other hand, are very welcome to help yourself with Grace Jones or Venus Williams. I heard both of them like white guys.

      • NM156

        Don’t forget Ru Paul…

      • Mike Lau

        Why not Beyonce or Halle Berry?

        • Brian

          Berry is half white (at least), and Beyonce is a white woman with a tan.

        • D.B. Cooper

          Halle Berry is half white, and she now has two kids by two different white guys. I’ll bet you anything her white mom is relieved her grandchildren are almost white again.

    • NM156

      Yes, but sexy space aliens…

      • D.B. Cooper

        I’ll spread my seed with an Asari before I touch Oprah, Venus, Serena, Latifah, and Grace.

    • Bossman

      We here in America are the lucky ones with lots of room to grow and also the most attractive women.

    • They don’t look like space aliens. My wife is a bit short, but small people are nice.

  • JohnEngelman

    In Japan the population density is still far higher than in the United States. More people mean that there is less of everything good to go around, and conversely.

    The Japanese method of voluntary population reduction is certainly superior to the Chinese one child only policy. China should learn from Japan.

    • Mike Lau

      The Japanese method of voluntary population reduction is certainly
      superior to the Chinese one child only policy. China should learn from
      Japan.

      The Japanese method is voluntary simply because they are a rich developed and urbanised nation, and the people of rich developed and urbanised nations tend to breed less than the people of poor and predominantly rural nations.

      When Japan was at the same stage of social and economic development of China, people also tended to have a lot of kids, as did people in Europe and America.

      Interestingly the very Chinese, but rich, developed, and urbanised populations of Singapore, Hong Kong, and Taiwan also have very low birth rates. In fact I think Hong Kong’s is the lowest in the world, even lower than Japan.

      So China, given its stage of social and economic development probably did have to resort to coercive measures. But as she rises in wealth, the government will probably have to start encouraging people to breed.

  • Eddie Lutz

    Soybean oil. Japanese were already eating tons of isoflavon-loaded tofu and edamame, but now have added to that the soybean oil in processed foods. It’s messing with their hormones and sexual development.

    • IstvanIN

      That isn’t completely unlikely. Look how fecund the Imperial Family isn’t.

    • D.B. Cooper

      I see the Tokyo flight arriving at work daily. A lot of them have grown accustomed to our bad eating habits. A lot of the teens have pizza faces, and their height can’t handle a few extra pounds.

    • Sloppo

      I think that’s VERY possible, but I was under the impression that it’s not just soybean oil. I read a bit about that subject and I asked a guy at a health food store why so many health food stores sold so many soy products when they seem to have unhealthy side effects because of the phytoestrogens. I asked him because he seemed knowledgeable about “health food”. He told me that he had experienced some health issues (I didn’t ask what they were) and went to a doctor for testing. At the doctor’s office, he had been told that his blood work would be considered normal if he had been a middle aged woman, but he was a young man. The doc told him to stop eating soy products, which he had been eating copiously because he thought they were healthy. After that he told me that his health issues went away. I have to believe that guy because the information he shared was something I can’t imagine he would make up because it’s the sort of thing that could be embarrassing to talk about.

    • 48224

      So, apparently smoking methol cigarettes, eating hot fries, fried chicken and grape drink increases your sex drive. I bet the Japanese are having as much sex as ever, they just use birth control. I am astonished at the number of women who do not want to have children. The higher their IQ, the fewer kids they have.

      The over-population of the third world, average IQ 80, is what will ruin the planet.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    Japan’s punishing corporate world makes it almost impossible for women to combine a career and family, while children are unaffordable unless both parents work.

    That’s really all you need to explain the crisis right there. Most of the other “explanations” come across as dubious and superfluous.

    Japan is really a country with a first-world economy but a third-world concept of human rights. That’s one reason I refuse to buy Japanese cars. The country has gotten where it is through exploitation of others.

    As far as the claim that “Its smart phone apps are the world’s most imaginative,” if this is the case then I wonder why so few of them have caught on in the US and elsewhere. Japan is not known for its groundbreaking software.

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    A professional dominatrix? It must be difficult to make a living in a profession where all the clients are strapped for cash.

  • Defiant White

    Ever check out Japanese women? Other than the few who are porn stars or models, the rest are ugly as sin. By and large, all asiatics are ugly people. When jap men are bombarded with images of beautiful western, white women, it’s hard for them to look at some ugly, fish-eyed, pug nosed sow and want to mate. Fantasy can only take you so far . . .

    • IstvanIN

      No need to be needlessly mean.

    • Mike Lau

      Well, as an Asian dude here, I think it would be absolutely and amazingly awesome if all white men thought the same way as you do. You, Mr ‘Defiant White’ are a good white man!

      • Well Mr. Lau, since Japanese and Chinese have vaccinated themselves against each other, I am also a good “white” man.

        • Mike Lau

          Actually Mr Scott who you date is none of my darn business.

          Here in Hong Kong, and even Guangzhou we even have Chinese women dating Africans. One black Scotsman I know does very well with the ladies here —far better than I.

          If two people find happiness with each other, life is too short for me to wail and gnash my teeth over it.

          Things use to bother me, but not nowadays. Life is too short.

          • Alexandra1973

            What is a black Scotsman?

          • Mike Lau

            Hahahahhaha….I expected that…

            This guy would give the average Amrenner a hernia. He is absolutely rampant. He has slept with scores of Chinese women (the Chinese women won’t even look at me when he is around —sort of like a Belafonte looking black dude). But that is not all, he has a great time with the white ladies as well, and white guys are obviously insecure in his presence —as they ought to be.

          • So much for Mr. Engelman’s estimation of the sense of responsibility and self-respect he alleges are possessed by east Asians.

            Unless you are in fact a troll.

          • skara_brae

            There is no such thing as a “black Scotsman”.

          • Chris Granzow XI

            That’s what I was thinking. I don’t like to use the enemy’s vernacular, i.e. “white British”….as if there’s any other kind.

  • Chris Granzow XI

    This is a crazy coincidence because I just spent the whole last week studying this and probably read about 30-40 articles/studies. Here’s a good video: vice. com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/the-japanese-love-industry .

    • Sick of it

      That is NOT the right way to use a bath tub!

      • Chris Granzow XI

        Yea…..it got weird as hell at the end.

  • OhWow

    I’d never marry an Asian woman, but I’d sure give her some nice caucasian biscuit. Asian women love white men. Many of them are quite pretty and in shape unlike our fat feminist white female counterparts who chop off their hair and get tattoos. Not all white women are like that, but the pool is becoming less promising.

  • Whitetrashgang

    Thanks I needed that

  • John R

    Yes, Japan has it’s problems of declining population. But, and it hurts to say this, I am more confident in the survival of the Japanese people, than I am in the survival of White people. We also have a slow, if any, population growth. But what is worse, we make it worse by importing millions of Third World immigrants, here and in Europe, who hate White culture and people. THAT, more than slow population growth, is what will destroy advanced societies.

    • Whitetrashgang

      Mars or bust honey,can you dig it?

      • WR_the_realist

        Mars is a frozen desert with hardly any atmosphere. It’s an ideal place to colonize if your idea of a good life is one where you have to stay indoors 100% of the time.

    • Massinissa

      Correction: we’re not having ANY population growth at the moment. Whites are reproducing below replacement level. Which means we’re decreasing, not increasing.

  • MBlanc46

    Coming soon to a country near you.

  • borogirl54

    Even married couples in Japan do not want to have children. One woman said in an interview that if she and her husband had children, she would end up being a single mother because her husband would be gone most of the time.

  • Nathanwartooth

    Because Asians on average make more than Whites in America.

    DUUUHHHHHHHH

    Are you trying to imply that Whites + Asians = Master race?

    • NM156

      You guys are killing me today. Nothing more entertaining online than a good Engelman pile-on. XD

      • JohnEngelman

        I too am entertained by the insults of those who resent being reminded of the superiority of Orientals and Jews, and by the fact that I can document my assertions by quoting material I have found on this website.

        I do not express anger, but I enjoy provoking it. People get angry when told things they wish were not true, but know are.

        Race realism requires the acknowledgement that Nordics are not the master race. Ashkenazi Jews are, followed by Orientals.

        • Alexandra1973

          That being the case, they should still have their own nations. I think we whites can handle things just fine on our own. Not that we can’t learn from others, but it’s best that we don’t mingle.

          • JohnEngelman

            What harm comes from the mingling of whites and Orientals? Inter racial married couples of whites and Orientals tend to make better incomes than white couples. They even tend to make better incomes than Oriental married couples, who tend to make better incomes than white married couples. Inter racial mingling benefits them.

          • Mike Lau

            Well to be fair if you are interested in race preservation, then the harm is pretty much absolute – if kids are the result.

            If race preservation is not on your agenda, then agreed. No harm done.

          • JohnEngelman

            As far as race preservation is concerned, the races I want most to preserve are those which are most vulnerable. I am speaking of the San Bushmen of southern Africa, the Pygmies of central Africa, and the Australian Aborigines. These intrigue me because they have preserved a paleolithic life style. By studying them we can learn about our own ancestors, and gain better understanding of ourselves. We can particularly learn about instinctive inclinations we have that had survival value in the past, but which create problems now.

            The San Bushmen and the Pygmies are in danger of being annihilated by the Bantu. The Australian Aborigines are having even more difficulty adjusting to modern society than are the Bantu in Africa, and their descendants in the United States.

            Other than that, I think Oriental women are delightful, so I am not worried about miscegenation.

            Contrary to what some posters here seem to fear, white Gentiles of European origins are not threatened by a conspiracy of Jewish Cultural Marxists that is forcing genocide and race displacement of white Gentiles.

            What is happening is that computer technology is increasing the relationship between intelligence and income. Many white Gentiles would rather blame their declining living standards on bizarre conspiracies than acknowledge that in an increasingly competitive economy they have little of value to offer an employer.

          • Brian

            Because life is about more than income. I like whites and I like the NE Asians also. The world needs both types. And when they merge, we have neither type left.

        • Mike Lau

          Actually John, I think IQ is vastly overrated.

          The Flynn effect tells us that whites of say 80 years ago, would on average test as morons today. Yet obviously they were not morons.

          Look at Muhammad Ali —-have you seen his interviews with Michael Parkinson (ironic that eh?). A genius who totally outwits Parkinson—yet I think he had a tested IQ of less than 80.

          • JohnEngelman

            When the U.S. military wanted to draft Muhammad Ali they gave him an IQ test. He scored 79. 80 was the cut off point. Like many young men in the United States back then, Ali was not in a hurry to join the colors. I think he deliberately calibrated his performance to just barely fail.

            I saw him on William Buckley’s Firing Line once. I would say that he went the distance with Buckley, and won by decision. Now of course, they were talking about boxing, and Ali’s life and career.

            Nevertheless, I had the feeling that if they were to talk about the Iliad and the Odyssey by Homer, and if Ali had several months to study with the assistance of a tutor, he would have handled himself well in a discussion of that too.

            With Ali’s charisma, and knowledge of ring science, I suspect his real score was above 120.

          • WR_the_realist

            Would that be an IQ of 120 before or after his boxing career turned his brain into pudding?

          • Ali refused to submit to the draft and was suspended from boxing from 1967 to 1970.

          • JohnEngelman

            Muhammad Ali was forced out of boxing when his skills were at their peak. Angelo Dundee said, “We never saw his best fights.”

          • He beat George Foreman by knockout in Kinshasa, and George Foreman was a heavy hitter.

        • WR_the_realist

          It’s quite a stretch to go from realistic discussions about which group edges out the other in average IQ (Ashkenazim Jews do score highest, followed by East Asians) to claiming that this or that group is the “Master Race”.

          Both European and Asian people have proven to be capable of creating, sustaining, and advancing complex, technological civilizations. Both seem to be subject to the same diseases of the soul when modernity overwhelms tradition.

          • JohnEngelman

            WR_the_realist,

            I agree with what you say. What I have to add is that whites and Orientals live and work well together.

          • WR_the_realist

            I agree that that is generally the case. Although I favor drastic reductions in immigration, if we must have immigration and some of that must be non-white I would rather those non-white immigrants be Oriental than any other group. The Chinese people I’ve known and worked with are no worse than the white people I’ve known and worked with. They’re not perfect people but neither are whites.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          In Eastern Europe, Jews have shown themselves to be masters of deceit, nepotism, theft, murder, rape, mayhem, tyranny and genocide. However, they are cowards who flee when those they oppress fight back with equal or greater viciousness than the Jews showed them. You will never convince me they are the master race, and neither are the Asians. They are not innovators in the same way we are. No race is the master race, but whites must be masters of their destiny in their own homelands. Both have homelands, we are losing ours.

          • JohnEngelman

            I make an effort not to hate blacks. Nevertheless, it is easy for me to document that they tend to be much less intelligent than whites, that they have higher rates of crime and illegitimacy than whites, and that these characteristics are true of them everywhere in the world, and always have been.

            Those who try to explain their hatred of Jews can do nothing but express vague, undocumented generalities.

            There are only three areas where Jews are different than Gentiles. They have a different religion. They tend to be more intelligent. They tend to be more prosperous.

            Jews are hated because they are superior, and because they are prosperous by resentful losers and failures.

          • I don’t hate Jews, but I am superior. Lots of other Gentiles who hate Jews do so because they perceive “Them” as alien hypocrites.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Jews are hated because they have one morality for them, another for everyone else. They believe the rest of us, you included are beasts in human form put on Earth for them to use as they will. We are without feelings or though to them. They have zero empathy towards non-Jews, and cannot put themselves in our shoes. They have killed 100 million whites in the past century alone. Worse, they use other non-whites to do their dirty work against us. They also profited massively from the slave trade in white Europeans abducted from Iceland to Russia, or captured in the many Islamic attacks against Europe. They promote violent rap music, pornography, and other behavior that undermines western civilization. They mock Christianity and Christians.They figure prominently in the flooding of white and only white nations with hostile non-whites, and they also led genocidal wars against white populations repeatedly. They are hated for good reason, frankly I hate them, ALL of them. I do resent what they are doing to us very much, and frankly you are going to find yourself in a world of trouble when the waste matter hits the fan. You are an apologist for hostile racial and religious aliens who have made their intentions abundantly clear. That makes you in effect one of them.

          • JohnEngelman

            Unless you can document your assertions I will reject them as the raving of one who is emotionally unbalanced, and who feels a need to hate.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            They are not more intelligent, they are ethnocentric, psychopathic, murderous, depraved, hypocritical, greedy, and narcissistic beyond belief as a group. Gee, that sounds just like you. They also are inbred as a group beyond belief, and riddled with deadly genetic diseases. Since you insult me, I am going to return the favor.

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            That documentation is called history.

          • Brian

            There is also a tendency among some to benefit from host nations while having divided loyalties. And disproportionate involvement in groups like the NAACP, SPLC, ACLU, and AIPAC, that tend to work against the interest of white gentile Americans.

            Why does Israel require so much aid (economic and political backup) from the USA?

          • Israel receives almost no economic aid from the US. All of this assistance is military.

          • Brian

            That seems a distinction without a difference. What they don’t have to spend on military gear they can spend on whatever else they like. If I’m driving to McDonalds to spend $5 on two hamburgers, what difference does it make whether you give me $5 or two hamburgers as a gift?

          • You’re right to the extent that money is fungible, but you haven’t addressed our enormous support for Arab countries, where whites are hated anyway. Egypt’s recent mistreatment of Copts is a case in point.

            I think financial aid to foreign nations should be death-penalty illegal, and all military supplies should be strictly cash transactions.

          • Brian

            You would deprive the State Dept of one of its most valuable diplomatic tools? If we want a foreign nation to do what we want, we can invade or bomb, use covert spy/sabotage action in some limited cases (like Stuxnet in Iran), we can apply economic/trade sanctions, write a sternly worded letter, or…foreign aid. This is a carrot to coax someone, and it can be reduced or withdrawn as a threat. I don’t look at foreign aid as charity but as pure, 100% bribes. It’s 1% of the federal budget…chump change to us but a large sum to a poorer nation. If it keeps us out of one foreign war per century, that’s money well spent. I do understand that the application of it is messy, but it’s a good arm-twister.

          • I prefer the carrot with real people, but for Muzzies, I like a four-foot, two-handed mace with six big, curved flanges and a spike on the tip.

            I don’t program with Muslims.

          • JohnEngelman

            Whether or not “the NAACP, SPLC, ACLU, and AIPAC…tend to work against the interest of white gentile Americans” can be debated. Jews tend to be affluent because of their superior intelligence. Their sympathy for the poor is one of the reasons I admire them.

            The three billion dollars Israel receives from the United States is a small portion of the federal budget. Fortunately, U.S. support for Israel is not a political issue. The only political issue is how best can we support Israel.

            Israel is a small oasis of civilization surrounded by a vast desert of primitive and horrifying barbarism.

          • Brian

            Whether or not “the NAACP, SPLC, ACLU, and AIPAC…tend to work against the interest of white gentile Americans” can be debated.

            How on earth could that possibly be debated?

            The only political issue is how best can we support Israel.

            ‘The only political issue’? Israel is not the 51st state. The USA does not exist to support Israel. You realize we are actually two separate, sovereign nations, with interests that do not perfectly overlap, right?

            Israel is a small oasis of civilization surrounded by a vast desert of primitive and horrifying barbarism.

            We agree on that at least. I have no problem with Israel crushing its Arab neighbors utterly, even to the point of having a Greater Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates. I do have a problem with taking the political hit for being Israel’s big brother.

          • JohnEngelman

            Whether or not “the NAACP, SPLC, ACLU, and AIPAC…tend to work against the interest of white gentile Americans” can be debated.

            How on earth could that possibly be debated?

            – Brian

            My “tribe” so to speak is composed of decent people of all races, nations, and ethnicities. Within my tribe I prefer the company of those who are intelligent, well informed, and widely read.

          • Brian

            Fine and fine. I don’t see how that has anything to do with the question I asked.

            The NAACP’s raison d’etre is to redistribute privilege, rights, and money from whites to themselves.

            The ACLU spends a lot of effort on restricting the expression of Christianity.

            Didn’t the SPLC designate this site and/or J. Taylor as a ‘hate group’?

            Doesn’t AIPAC try to divert US foreign policy toward a pro-Israel position, regardless of whether that lines up with the USA’s best interests in a situation?

          • JohnEngelman

            I dislike the ACLU and the SPLC. My support for Israel is virtually unconditional.

          • You didn’t buy an airplane ticket and put your years in as an IDF soldier, did you? I think abusing conservative Jews here is massively counterproductive, but I also know that people are just different. I don’t mind fighting one damned bit. Anyone with an ounce of sense finds it terrifying, but the result is simply the inevitable product of our mortality. Some of my good friends have died of cancer. I’d rather break-dance in the mud with an abdominal wound for 15 minutes than linger in a nursing home for six months.

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            100% Shabbos Goy!

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          You are going to provoke the wrong person, and I am going to enjoy every minute of it.

          • JohnEngelman

            I will enjoy it more. You give evidence of a diseased mind.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Accusing others of what you are doing I see, boy you really must like the heat you bring onto yourself. You will also provoke someone into killing you too.

          • JohnEngelman

            I can be killed, but I cannot be refuted.

  • IKantunderstand

    I don’t care. My only feeling is that this condition passes to the Asian continent.

  • No; that was the best laugh I’ve had in weeks. My mouth hurts from smiling too much.

  • Kenner

    I’ve heard that Japanese women are now attracted to Korean men, who tend to be much bigger and studlier than the average Japanese man. Too bad about the lunatic Korean temper and non-existant sense of humor….

  • It’s not looks; it’s cultural dynamics like work hours, the cost of living and women wanting a bit of freedom, like wanting to not be in lockstep with a guy who goes along to get along as a corporate drone and sleeps around on her.

    Women are programmed by evolution to want their men around to help them.
    .

    • Sentinel9

      Just like all those helpful male tribesmen of the Congo.

  • That quandry applies to anyone with a serious career: one’s dating options quickly become limited.

  • Kenner

    Good point. I was drawn to the immigration debate in 1990 because of the ecological impact of untrammeled immigration. The cultural and racial impact kicked in a bit later.
    When environmentalists decried the influx, the non-eskimo leftists branded it the ‘greening of hate.’

  • Massinissa

    That’s one depressing article.

  • Norseman

    “Well, I feel a bit bad for saying this, but perhaps if Japan imported
    some big, hunky, muscular, 6-foot-plus white guys, Japanese women would
    become a little more interested in sex…”

    That might set a dangerous precedent. Someone might get the idea to import even taller and more muscular hunky, black guys.

    • Mike Lau

      hahahahha…..yeah….I think concernedcollegekid needs to see a shrink and get himself sorted – that imagery he conjured up is hardly normal.

  • WR_the_realist

    It’s just the converse of the hyper masculine, aggressive, but not terribly bright, black men getting white women.

    Unfortunately for Asian men and black women, there are no combinations of race and gender more incompatible with each other.

  • Massinissa

    Casual sex is fine. But when it comes to marriage and kids, everyone should stick to their race.
    But anyway, the article says that Japanese males are becoming less intrested in sex too. So the problem lies within both sexes.

    • Japanese husbands are normally put on an allowance by their wives. I don’t know that they’re not interested in sex. I can’t imagine not being interested in sex; at 47, I’m slowing down to where twice a day is fine. I suspect they’re really just not interested in commitment and letting someone else do much of the decision-making, especially when it comes to finances.

  • IanJMacDonald

    “children are unaffordable unless both parents work”

  • ViktorNN

    These are the consequences of modernity being played out in a very intelligent, very advanced, affluent society. Traditional ways of life break down and are replaced by a myriad of hedonisms, all ultimately meaningless and which lead to the literal dwindling of the society itself.

    The left, the cultural Marxists, would say that there is no such thing as “natural ways of human life.” To them, all tradition is bad and must be stamped out. Now they get to see the consequences.

    It is natural for humans to live in heterosexual pairs raising children in family groups. Family life is the most fulfilling form of life. Japan is a prime example of what happens when a modern society loses its way and forgets what it means to live a natural human life.

    • Mike Lau

      True humanity and veneration of tradition is found in the rural areas. Yet rural folk are often despised in Asia —-in spite of the fact that the grandparents of most East Asians today were peasant’s themselves.

  • JohnEngelman

    There is a lot of unhappiness, anger, and hostility on this website. A long time ago I realized that one seldom advances one’s interests by acting on anger.

    • It took three years in federal prison for me to learn that, John. On the other hand, a good laugh now and then suits me just fine.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Acting on anger is not the problem, HOW one does that however can be a very big problem. Anger is nothing more but a tool that tells us something is wrong and needs to be corrected, addressed, or if all else fails, avoided. And yes, there are things going on in my land that do make me angry, that is why I am doing what I can to address them.

  • Robbie Cheney

    I think this is due to the really poor quality of porn worldwide, especially that produced in Japan. No hetro ‘erotica’ at all, mostly thinly disguised homo porn.

    • Bossman

      Really?? Nice to know stuff like that. Most porn aimed at heteros have a homo subtext to it anyway.

    • Mike Lau

      Something I am utterly unfamiliar with. Its good that there are people like Robert to keep me well informed. You must be a connoisseur right?

  • Mike Lau

    hahahahha…..yeah….I think concernedcollegekid needs to see a shrink
    and get himself sorted – that imagery he conjured up is hardly normal —perhaps some electric shock therapy may help —that used to be the standard treatment, was it not?

  • Mike Lau

    Exactly. When Europeans were big breeders a century and longer ago, they could offload their populations to the Americas and Australia, and this continued until at least the 1920s.

    The same stage of development hit the Asian countries later, and together with modern medicines meant big spurts in the population. But they mostly stayed in their traditional lands, and hence the high population densities (although not much higher, and in fact lower than some European ones).

    Interestingly China only had 450 million in 1949. Mao almost doubled the population during his time, not through increasing the birth rate, but through dramatically improving social and economic conditions. During his time life expectancy almost doubled —the most rapid rate of increase for any country in all of human history. That’s an easily verifiable fact.

    • JohnEngelman

      In the United States Mao Tse Tung and Joseph Stalin do not get the credit they deserve for developing their countries. The human cost was high. I would argue that such costs should not be exacted. Nevertheless, their achievements were impressive, and an apt refutation to the Republican cliche that “socialism has always failed.”

      • The misery the Soviet Union experienced was self-inflicted by their political ideology. Increasing their societal and economic isolation from the rest of Europe harmed their development. Of course this isolation goes all the way back to the Tartar conquest, but the fall of the Romanovs was a chance to start over on a relatively clean slate. The Marxists proceeded to blow this opportunity.

        • JohnEngelman

          We can never know what would have happened if Vladimir Lenin and his Bolsheviks had not come to power. We do know that the Soviet government carried Russia from semi feudalism to the space age, despite the devastating German invasion.

          I personally regret the overthrow of the Romanov Dynasty. With its Duma, Russia was evolving in the direction of a representative democracy with a figurehead monarch, and possibly a social democratic economy.

          Unfortunately, Czar Nicholas II did not have the political acumen to keep Russian out of World War I. When he ordered the mobilization of the Russian military he transformed a war that could have been restricted to the Balkans to a global conflict.

          Nicholas II was a good man, but a bad Czar. His power should have been restricted to deciding who to elect to state dinners, and what to serve.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          The Bolsheviks wanted to and nearly did exterminate the Christian Slavic populations of Eastern Europe. They wanted to be at the top, no matter how many died as a result, and they couldn’t care less about the suffering they created. They merely repeated what the Tartars and the Mongols did to my ancestors, and people wonder why Russians and Ukrainians are fearsomely cruel in battle, why they do not like racial and religious outsiders, and why they lagged behind the West? It’s impossible to progress when your nation is repeatedly de-populated by darkies.

          • JohnEngelman

            The Nazis wanted to exterminate the Slavs. They were prevented by the Soviet Government.

          • WR_the_realist

            The Soviet government did an excellent job of exterminating Slavic people all by itself. Millions were starved to death or worked to death as slave labor during the Great Terror. In 1939 the country with the most horrendous human rights record was not Germany but the Soviet Union. We allied with one hideous, murderous regime in order to defeat another hideous, murderous regime. So WW II was no exception to my general principle that in nearly all wars, both sides are wrong.

          • The Soviet Government used the Slavic people as a vehicle for their own goals. It was always an “internationalist” regime instead of a Russian, or even pan-Slavic one.

            The Nazis didn’t really want to actively exterminate Slavs; they wanted to enslave them, with the idea that they eventually die out

            Please keep in mind that normal Germans didn’t always have this attitude toward Russians or even eastern Jews. One older family friend is Jewish, and her grandfather was from Russia. He was a 15 year-old water-carrier for the Russian army in 1914-1915 and was taken prisoner by Germans. The first thing they did was to get him some shoes. He had never owned a pair of shoes before then. He worked for the German army until he was 17 and then enlisted in the German army. He was finally taken prisoner again in late 1918 and finished up in NYC.

            Plenty of Russians fought for the twisted version of Germany during World War Two. What a great choice: starve to death in a camp or fight against one’s own people! I’d have demanded to be shot or else have forced them to shoot me. As little as I like the US government, I would never ally with foreigners against it, whatever they told me.

          • Mike Lau

            It was always an “internationalist” regime instead of a Russian, or even pan-Slavic one.

            Perhaps under Lenin and Trotsky. Not so much after Stalin’s “socialism in one country”

          • The Soviets absorbed Mongolia as a satellite state very early on. They also demanded China cede Singkiang to them.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Wrong, the Judeo-Bolsheviks killed far more Slavs than the Nazis did, and the Nazis killed tens of millions during the war.

          • Mike Lau

            If that is the case why do so many Russians still have a fondness for Stalin, and the former Soviet Union. I know a couple at work —they reckon things were better in Soviet times.

            Putin also is ambivalent about Stalin, praising him for some things, condemning him for others.

          • Normal people like law and order. Most white middle-class, middle-aged Americans thought the cops beating the you-know-what out of hippies during the Vietnam war was just fine.

            To the same Russian demographic, Stalin represented certainty. I suspect xenophobia is still a major feature in the Russian psyche. My stepmother’s dad eventually forgave her for marrying an American. He said he met lots of Americans in Germany in 1945, and that they always had liquor and they always shared.

            It is quite unfortunate that Russia’s engagement with the West is still mainly as an exporter of raw materials. With an intelligent, educated work force, they could certainly do better than that.

  • Bossman

    I did not bother to read the whole article but the gist of it is that the Japanese are paying a high price in trying to be Western. They are sacrificing themselves at the alter of Western values.

    • Mike Lau

      That is quite correct. Asians (particularly Japanese) like to follow Western trends. For example if white women start copulating with black men, then you can be sure that in five or ten years time, the trend will catch on in Asia, as it already has—-particularly Japan.

      The movie about Diana and Hasnat Khan —-probably will start off a trend of women dating sub-continental men.

      Whatever the case though, who cares?

      As someone said, you guys will be a lot happier when you stop worrying yourselves stupid over who is fu***** who.

  • Mike Lau

    As a colleague there once crudely put it, they masturbate 24 hours a day but they never climax.

    That’s actually hits the nail on the head ….they seem to love waiting waiting for things too….like it takes an age for the food to come out at a Japanese restaurant. They seem to take delaying of gratification to another level – almost a perverse one.

    On the other hand we Chinese are the most normal people in the world when it comes to sexuality. We think white porn is absolutely crazy and off the planet.

    • Everybody thinks they are normal. The reason for this is that norms are society-based. Celts and Russians think that the amount of liquor they drink is normal. American southerners think that frying nearly everything they eat is normal. Arabs think that dressing women up in shapeless black bags is normal. Brazilians think that putting sugar in orange juice is normal (orange juice is already too sweet for me). Africans think that rape and murder are normal. Afghans think that sodomizing boys is normal.

      I suspect that the “crazy” and “off the planet” aspects to white porn is due to the fact that there is still a strong puritanical streak in American whites, so the people drawn to that particular industry – as producers and participants – are deviant from ANY standard of normality. I also think – because this is the US – there is bound to be some hard-core (pun intended) “one-upsmanship” competition, just because at the end of the day it is all about money. You are looking at the product of competing commercial enterprises and not steady couples.

      • ViktorNN

        You’ve hit on the main reason why some “white porn” is so extreme – the profit motive. Much of porn is about novelty, and extremity sells. Also, if you dig a bit deeper you’ll find that many of those producing the most extreme forms of white porn aren’t white. There’s one group in particular that seems overrepresented in the media in general which has had a leading role in the “white” US porn biz.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    The Japanese are still having sex, it’s just the fact the cost of living and raising children is too high for most Japanese. Moreover marriage for Japanese men, like western men is increasingly an impossible situation for them. Japan is also very overcrowded, they do not need to have that many people there, and they sure as hell do not need to be importing hostile aliens into their midst. If the decline of marriage is such a concern to the Japanese government, then they better stop penalizing marriage and start facilitating it. That is why the white birthrate is sub-replacement as well, government policy is mostly to blame for it. Feminism, porn and miscegenation have their roles too in our predicament, but the number one reason for falling birthrates in Japan and in white nations are government policies that are genocidal by design.

  • Gereng

    From personal experience of Japan in 1954-55, the girls are highly desirable…I can’t imagine why their men are holding back. We Marines certainly didn’t. The young ladies were both charming and enthusiastic.

    • My experience was that they like white guys, even outside Okinawa. We Scotsmen are a bit on the “takusan” side down under the kilt, but we treat the ladies quite nicely.

  • Brian

    What the hell happened to the Japanese my grandfathers faced in WW2? All the strong and virile ones were wiped out, leaving behind the dregs? My gramps didn’t like the Japanese soldier much, but they had a lot of respect for their ferocity, toughness, dedication, and skill.

    • My wife’s great-grandfather was an Imperial Navy pilot who blew up and sank a US escort carrier. He probably killed 600 guys. He was killed himself in the exchange.

      That’s war.

      • Brian

        You mean how our side was prone to underestimating the Japanese capabilities?

  • Homo_Occidentalis

    Just remember, John, if you and your ilk procreate with all of the pure Asians in this generation, there will soon be no pure ones left for your mixed-race progeny to enjoy. It’s best to keep the races separate and preserve mankind’s dazzling diversity, both phenotypical and cultural, in perpetuity. Do you really wish that the wonders of Europe and Asia be blended into a dull homogeneity?

    • JohnEngelman

      Civilizations benefit when they merge. So do races. Beneficial genes survive. Non beneficial genes do not.

      • Franklin_Ryckaert

        You mean to say that the hundred millions of Blacks have “beneficial” genes? (because they survived?). In that case Whites should mingle with those “beneficial” genes!

        • JohnEngelman

          I am talking about the long term benefits of miscegenation. The reason non Negroes have some Neanderthal genes is because they were beneficial.

  • Did Toshiro Mifune look “feminine”?

    I’m 3/16 Injun and look nothing like a woman.

    My daughter wants to go to the JSDF academy to become Japan’s first female jet aircraft carrier pilot. Maybe she’ll waste some NK commies in an F-35 someday.

  • Better than being sukoshi.

  • Japanese take their hobbies very, very seriously. They’re not ants. I was always asked over there what my hobbies were. Immersing one’s self in a serious hobby allows for an individualism their corporate culture denies them. Sometimes these change when they come here. One nice couple from MEC I worked with here took up skiing in a major way. A single guy from Mitsubishi Materials discovered he liked really long car trips in the American west. I always took them shooting, because that was what I did back in those days.

    Given the small size of typical Japanese apartments, most of their hobbies are outdoor activities.

  • One “t” for the nationality, and two for the name. I am Michael Scott. Had I been born in Edinburgh, I would be a Scot.

    This is like Brazil for the nation and Brasilia for their capitol.

  • I developed past a childlike state, and it got me sent to federal prison for three years.

    I’m still not “tame”, but I am smart enough to understand that when I want to do “X” to someone else, it will cost me “Y”.

  • Germany’s situation is worse, because the government’s answer there is to import Turks.

  • Franklin_Ryckaert

    And which “highly intelligent” group is always always overrepresented in big financial fraud and the promotion of moral degeneration? If there would exist Nobel Prizes for that, they surely would win them. Yes, there is such a thing as a “master race” in crime.

    • JohnEngelman

      Can you document your assertion that Jewish financiers are less honest than Gentile financiers?

  • CrossWinds

    Some countries have not learned a healthy balance between work and play. Corporations demand so much from their workers, it leaves the Japanese worker tired at the end of the day. Corporate Japan, and the government, should realize, that to encourage family life, rather than singlehood, is the best answer to economic growth. Otherwise, like western nations, increasing immigration of foreign workers will have to feed their economic engine, and Japan will look increasingly un-japan………

    ……..Psalm 127:4-5……..

    4 Like arrows in the hand of a warrior,
    So are the children of one’s youth.
    5 Happy is the man who has his quiver full of them