House Democrats Unveil Immigration Plan in Hopes of Pressuring Republicans

David Nakamura, Washington Post, October 2, 2013

House Democrats released their own comprehensive immigration proposal Wednesday, hoping to put renewed pressure on the Republican majority to move forward on stalled border legislation.

But GOP aides quickly dismissed the proposal and said it was unlikely to get a vote in the chamber, reducing the bill to a symbolic attempt to keep immigration reform alive while Washington focuses on the government shutdown.

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and several colleagues unveiled the proposal at a news conference on Capitol Hill, saying Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) should put immigration legislation up for a vote by the full House before the end of the year.

“The speaker said that he would like to bring something to the floor,” Pelosi said. “We would like to see characteristics like these in his bill.”

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Democrats fear that the Republican-controlled House is intent on killing momentum for immigration reform by dragging out the process. Pro-immigration advocates are planning a day of action Saturday in dozens of cities across the country, followed by an immigration rally and concert on the Mall on Tuesday. Organizers said the concert would take place on the West Lawn of the U.S. Capitol if the federal government remains closed next week.

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The Democrats’ plan amends a comprehensive bill approved by the Senate in June by striking a controversial border security measure that would add 700 hundred miles of fencing and 20,000 border control agents along the U.S.-Mexican border. That provision was added to the Senate bill to help win votes from conservative Republicans.

In its place, the Democratic lawmakers substituted a border proposal, passed unanimously by the House Homeland Security Committee, that would require the Department of Homeland Security to write a plan to ensure the apprehension of 90 percent of illegal border-crossers in high-traffic areas within two years and across the entire southern border within five years. The provision does not set a price or timeline, nor does it mandate a certain number of hires.

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  • joesolargenius

    Hire the returning Vets to implement any new Border Security measure.

    • Raised Its Ugly Head

      The good ones are under suspicion of extremism and “racist calls for Liberty.”

  • Eagle_Eyed

    House Dems have about zero leverage.

    • ThomasER916

      If we ended the 17th Amendment we’d end the Liberal Senate. Unfortunately this isn’t going to happen and America will fail.

      • Maybe we wouldn’t end the “liberal” Senate, but what would happen is that United States Senators would be responsive to the needs and wants of state governments, not big campaign donors and big money special interests.

        A Senate whose members were elected by state legislatures would have never passed ObamaCare in its present form.

        Another thing: Because state legislative boundaries are also gerrymandered, a U.S. Senator who is chosen by state legislator will be marginally more responsive to the people who disparately benefit from gerrymandering, that is white people of at least middle income and who tend to be married with children.

        • ThomasER916

          I understand this completely, but none of it will happen because the 17th Amendment will not go away.

  • Raised Its Ugly Head

    Embrace Immigration Reform and A Path to Citizenship, or somebody will call you racist and get you fired from your job.

    Learn how to say “Borders are a racist construct” a the right time to the right people, and maybe they will bother somebody else for a while.

    • Jefferson

      Left winger Bob Beckel from the Fox news show The Five said in the past that the U.S government should close its doors to immigrants from Islamic countries.

      That is the only sensible thing I have ever heard coming from the mouth of a liberal regarding immigration.

      I wish more liberals thought that way, but unfortunately the vast majority of them do not.

      The vast majority of liberals believe Muslims murdering people inside a shopping mall is just a small price to pay in order to get that “wonderful” so-called “vibrant diversity”.

      It’s only a matter of time before some darkie Muslim from Somalia opens fire on The Mall Of America in Minnesota. When that happens, the Obama administration will have blood on their hands. Because it is their liberal immigration policies that will cause this to happen.

  • David Ashton

    SHUT DOWN immigration, how about that?

  • So CAL Snowman

    Why don’t the democrats and liberals and some republicans come out and say it? They want to merge the USA with Mexico. Why are they so afraid to say this publically?

    • willbest

      Well the rule of liberalism is to never discuss your endgame until you do away with democracy because 65% of the country will openly revolt, 30% will buy into your authoritarian demands because they believe in the ability of the elite to get the free stuff delivered, 4% will go along with it because they think they will be part of the ruling class, and 1% stand to genuinely improve their life through it.

    • Sick of it

      The last time they publicly trotted out the idea of the North American Union and the Amero, the idea was so despised that they simply stopped talking about it. Like it never happened.

    • mobilebay

      I would really love to hear them give us some straight talk too, Snowman. To those we elected – tell us just how you stand and why. Do you anticipate more votes from those who support illegal immigration? Do you get kickbacks from those groups? Is it a gesture from the heart? We’re waiting to hear what drives you to want to fill our country with third world lawbreakers and see that they have job preference over unemployed citzens.

    • Bossman

      Because they know that an integrated North America will be mush more prosperous but they also know that the average voter is stupid and prejudiced.

      • Andy

        What makes you think that we’d be more prosperous if we were merged with Mexico?

        • Bossman

          NAFTA has already made Canada, the USA and Mexico much more prosperous. There is no turning back. The future calls for more North American integration. Mexico at this time is even developing faster than the USA and Canada. Investments from all over the world are now pouring into Mexico.

          • Greg Thomas

            So are billions of dollars in remittances, from 25 million illegal invading mexicans squatting on our soil.

          • Bossman

            They use that money to shop at Walmart, Costco, McDonalds and all the other major US corporations that have branches in Mexico. That money gets circulated and comes back to the USA.

          • Greg Thomas

            More “Prosperous” for whom? Please reference statistics that substantiate your claim that the average American has prospered under NAFTA.

          • Bossman

            When the leaders from the three countries meet, that is a line that they keep repeating, so I’m assuming that it is backed up by valid data.

          • Andy

            I’ve heard that NAFTA helped big businesses in America but hurt American workers, and pretty much put small Mexican farms out of business.

      • ms_anthro

        Yes, it makes sense that two First World countries (US and Canada) will prosper by merging with several Third World hellholes and importing the inhabitants of such to lean heavily on our already strained infrastructure and social services. Good thinking!

        • Bossman

          Billions of Dollars are now pouring into these Third World hellholes. The Panama canal is being doubled in size. The Chinese are considering building a second canal in Nicaragua.

          • ms_anthro

            How does this help founding stock White North Americans again?

            Oh, right.

  • cablegirls

    This goes on right in our faces. Hardly any Americans are in favor of increased immigration and amnesty. So they eventually tweaked one poll which didn’t list “no” in the answer choices, and cite that rigged poll in response to objections.

    Not fooled. Citizens want better fences and tighter border security, and we don’t want our representatives answering to the corporate lobby and their cash. I’ll express my position in the voting booth.

  • bigone4u

    Politcal gamesmanship in defiance of the will of the people to stop immigration must be punished. Those in favor of “immigration reform” of this type are traitors. I’ll leave it to others to articulate the punishment, but simply voting the traitors out of office is not enough. They must be shamed, humilated, and confronted by angry white persons. We’ve had enough.

  • Spartacus

    “The Democrats’ plan amends a comprehensive bill approved by the Senate
    in June by striking a controversial border security measure that would
    add 700 hundred miles of fencing and 20,000 border control agents along
    the U.S.-Mexican border.”

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    And will those 20.000 border control agents be mexicans as well ?

    • Bossman

      Yes, most of them will be because it is better to be bilingual to be able to do the job effectively. Most educated Mexicans are learning English but few Americans care to learn Spanish.

      • ShermanTMcCoy

        As I already speak 3 languages (English, German and Russian), I certainly do not care to learn to speak the language of the illiterates.

  • Luca

    I have a plan too. Move our military bases down near the border and commence 24-hr. artillery practice.

    • Sick of it

      Instead of that neat idea, they are feverishly working on a highway of the Americas, to connect us from Canada to Central America.

  • Sick of it

    Here’s comprehensive immigration reform – Deport the illegals, deport anchor babies as they are not Americans per the Constitution, seal the border, and don’t let anyone else in…except the Afrikaners.

    • Bossman

      What Constitution? The Constitution is completely silent on the question of immigration. Any foreigner can become a naturalized American.

      • Sick of it

        People popped out on American soil are not naturalized citizens. According to the 14th Amendment, they aren’t American citizens unless their parents are American citizens, but judges today are crooked.

        • Bossman

          People born on American soil are not naturalized citizens.
          Yes, they are not naturalized citizens; they are natural-born citizens.

          • Sick of it

            Again, you just ignored what I said about the 14th Amendment which clearly states that they are only citizens if they are subject to the jurisdiction thereof…Mexican nationals are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States!

          • Bossman

            Mexicans nationals are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Wrong!!!! Only a few of them are ambassadors and diplomats. The vast majority of them on U.S. soil are ordinary people.

          • ThomasER916

            Bossman is an idiot, but he’s a Useful Idiot. Read his posts. It’s full Libtard all of the time.

  • Diversity Fatigue

    McCain and Graham’s hoof prints are likely to be found in there somewhere. Traitors!

  • JohnEngelman

    Why do so many Mexicans want to move to the United States? Why can’t they run a successful economy and society in their own country? Why can’t we ask those questins in public?

    (Those are leading questions, of course. We all know the answers.)

    • Bossman

      If you would do a little research, the answer would be quite simple. The exchange rate between an American Dollar and a Mexican Peso is 6 to 1. It is very advantageous for them to work in the USA. Agricultural jobs and other menial, low-status jobs are easy to get because Americans do not want to do those kinds of jobs. When they go to the U.S Southwest, it is almost a home away from home; same climate and a lot of the same people.

      • Andy

        Why can’t they run a successful economy and society in their own country?

        • David Ashton

          And if they can’t – with our good wishes – what good are they in our countries – with our welfare and multicultural patronage?

      • ThomasER916

        You chose one question while ignoring the others.

        Why can’t Mexicans RUN a successful economy and society in their OWN country?

  • Juan Outtamany

    No ephing way. Can’t afford ’em, don’t want them

  • NoMosqueHere

    We’ve had 50 years of virtually unlimited Third World immigration. Enough is enough.

    I am a single issue “immigration voter.” I won’t support any candidate who doesn’t support a ban on third world (especially arab and muslim) immigration. Let the Republicans lose every friggin election. Maybe they’ll get the message one day.

    Real immigration reform is American most pressing and preventable problem.

  • Sick of it

    Swedes are overwhelmingly liberal today.

  • Sick of it

    As I stated below, they are working on a highway to connect us all together. That and backroom deals are a part of their behind the scenes activities. Possibly the Keystone Pipeline as well. Remember it’s all about integrating Canada, the U.S., Mexico, and Central America.

  • Sick of it

    I’ve seen the ones who were on welfare, packed into a cramped apartment, constantly on siesta. I’ve seen Mexicans taking excessive breaks on the job. I know they use the bathroom inside homes they are working on (and I don’t mean in a toilet). Ignorant folks can praise them to high heavens, but apparently they don’t know much about the situation. And this was from my time in Texas…places further West are much worse off.

    • ThomasER916

      It’s because non-whites, especially non-white illegals, are not subject to the same laws are white Americans.

  • scutum

    We are presently engaged in a cold civil war with the left
    and many of our elites on one side, and patriotic European Americans on the
    other. The only long term solution to this is separation. That is why I think
    we should encourage people like Chokwe Lumumba, the mayor of Jackson MS, to
    form his New Republic of Africa. This would give the blacks a homeland to
    embrace and get them out of our hair once and for all. In the meantime we
    should be working on setting up a viable homeland of our own. (European) What
    we now refer to as the United States will not survive, its days are numbered.
    It is just a matter of time before the dollar loses its world reserve currency
    status due to the mismanagement of the Federal Reserve. When that happens the
    wheels will come off this bus and the country will break apart. We need to prepare for that eventuality.

    • Sick of it

      There’s nothing cold about this civil war…it’s just demonstrably one-sided, with the left taking everything piece by piece. They even walk into places and kill conservatives when they feel like it.

  • Greg S

    Just wondering how can we enforce a law that requires every citizen in the United States to have health insurance, but we can’t enforce our borders, and send back illegal aliens?

    • Puggg

      They fence WWII memorials more securely than our border with Mexico.

    • ThomasER916

      The plan has always been to punish whites and Christians. Ignore the Jewish elements involved in this plan and you’re missing half of point.

    • IstvanIN

      Because laws are only rigorously enforced against citizens, and then primarily White citizens, the people who actually have something to lose. Why do you think blacks, who have incredibly long rap sheets, spend very little time in jail until they commit the BIG ONE?

  • ThomasER916

    Mestizos are not subject to the same laws as white Americans. They’re not “working harder” than whites. There’s simply zero proof. They’re getting paid more because they system takes less and gives them more. That’s not “working harder” at all.

  • David Ashton

    Yes, it’s quite ridiculous how the pro-immigration lobbies everywhere tell us how wonderfully hardworking and talent the “unarmed invaders” are – and cannot sensibly answer the point that in that case they should stay home and give their own country and compatriots the benefits of their potential.

    The immigrationists use two different arguments: (1) We need their help; (2) they need our help. On this basis, let the whole world flood in.

    • Sick of it

      #1 Is a truly ridiculous argument in your nation right now, as many Britons are having a hard time finding work.

      • David Ashton

        I agree. I am hardly alone in my nation right now in saying so. But the “capitalist” employers and the “socialist” intelligentsia do not share this view of the majority of the people, who cannot do much about it in Britain, which in this respect is a “democracy” and “free country” only in name.

        • Sick of it

          You don’t have to convince me, I’m a descendant of numerous people who fought to be free of Great Britain. We saw it all going downhill and jumped ship.

          • David Ashton

            I am a descendant of people who fought to keep Britain free and great, and who doesn’t intend to give in or give up.

          • Sick of it

            The various families and clans which rose up against the monarchy always had that in mind. Apparently the monarchy never got the message. Not even with a severed head to go along with it.

          • David Ashton

            The pros and cons of the Civil War, and the role of Cromwell, and the patriotism of our recent monarchs, are interesting subjects but not relevant enough to discuss in detail here. A major historical problem has been the external collapse of our British Empire into a Multiracial Commonwealth, combined with internal neo-marxist subversion of the principles of free speech and peaceful assembly as originally defined, for example, by Sir Ivor Jennings QC in his then aptly titled “The Queen’s Government” (1954).

  • kenfrombayside

    Keep the pressure on your reps in congress. Giving 11 – 30 million (nobody knows for sure) criminal lawbreakers legalization pure insanity. Plus, they could sponsor their relatives; that would bring the total up to about 50 million aliens in our midst. Of course, these new citizens will vote for the vile democrats and their socialist giveaways. Most of them will be unskilled, uneducated, low IQ etc. Stop this outrageous bill now. Don’t sit on the sidelines.You are not wasting your time. The American people don’t want this bill. You have to do all you can do to stem the third world assault:
    – Contact your 2 US Senators and rep in congress.
    – after biz hours, leave a message on your DC rep’s voicemail. All US Senators have multiple offices so it would be a good idea to hit all of the. Remember, be civil and don’t threaten
    – go to NUMBERSUSA then go to the take action button. You will be able to send faxes to your 2 US Senators and congressional for free. (I also gave a $50 donation).
    – use Business Reply envelopes to state your opposition to America’s insane immigration policies and the proposed amnesty. Don’t give the parties any money.
    – join an immigration group like FAIR. Strength thru numbers!
    – go to the RNC & DNC sites to email them.
    – Use the media: call a talk radio program; write a letter to your local paper. If the media outlet is liberal, then talk about economic impact of massive third world immigration.
    – text everybody in your cell phone queue now.
    IF YOU DO OR SAY NOTHING, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.