What’s Killing Poor White Women?

Monica Potts, The American Prospect, September 3, 2013


Everything about Crystal’s life was ordinary, except for her death. She is one of a demographic—white women who don’t graduate from high school—whose life expectancy has declined dramatically over the past 18 years. These women can now expect to die five years earlier than the generation before them. It is an unheard-of drop for a wealthy country in the age of modern medicine. Throughout history, technological and scientific innovation have put death off longer and longer, but the benefits of those advances have not been shared equally, especially across the race and class divides that characterize 21st–century America. Lack of access to education, medical care, good wages, and healthy food isn’t just leaving the worst-off Americans behind. It’s killing them.

The journal Health Affairs reported the five-year drop in August. The article’s lead author, Jay Olshansky, who studies human longevity at the University of Illinois at Chicago, with a team of researchers looked at death rates for different groups from 1990 to 2008. White men without high-school diplomas had lost three years of life expectancy, but it was the decline for women like Crystal that made the study news. Previous studies had shown that the least-educated whites began dying younger in the 2000s, but only by about a year. Olshansky and his colleagues did something the other studies hadn’t: They isolated high-school dropouts and measured their outcomes instead of lumping them in with high-school graduates who did not go to college.

The last time researchers found a change of this magnitude, Russian men had lost seven years after the fall of the Soviet Union, when they began drinking more and taking on other risky behaviors. Although women generally outlive men in the U.S., such a large decline in the average age of death, from almost 79 to a little more than 73, suggests that an increasing number of women are dying in their twenties, thirties, and forties. “We actually don’t know the exact reasons why it’s happened,” Olshansky says. “I wish we did.”

Most Americans, including high-school dropouts of other races, are gaining life expectancy, just at different speeds. Absent a war, genocide, pandemic, or massive governmental collapse, drops in life expectancy are rare. “If you look at the history of longevity in the United States, there have been no dramatic negative or positive shocks,” Olshansky says. “With the exception of the 1918 influenza pandemic, everything has been relatively steady, slow changes. This is a five-year drop in an 18-year time period. That’s dramatic.”


Researchers have long known that high-school dropouts like Crystal are unlikely to live as long as people who have gone to college. But why would they be slipping behind the generation before them? James Jackson, a public-health researcher at the University of Michigan, believes it’s because life became more difficult for the least-educated in the 1990s and 2000s. Broad-scale shifts in society increasingly isolate those who don’t finish high school from good jobs, marriageable partners, and healthier communities. “Hope is lowered. If you drop out of school, say, in the last 20 years or so, you just had less hope for ever making it and being anything,” Jackson says. “The opportunities available to you are very different than what they were 20 or 30 years ago. What kind of job are you going to get if you drop out at 16? No job.”

In May, Jennifer Karas Montez of the Harvard University Center for Population and Development Studies co-authored the first paper investigating why white women without high-school diplomas might be dying. Most research has looked at which diseases are the cause of death, but Montez and her co-author wanted to tease out quality of life: economic indicators like employment and income, whether women were married and how educated their spouses were, and health behaviors like smoking and alcohol abuse. It is well known that smoking shortens life; in fact, smoking led to the early deaths of both of Crystal’s parents and her sister and brother. Crystal, though, never smoke or drank. But the researchers discovered something else that was driving women like her to early graves: Whether the women had a job mattered, and it mattered more than income or other signs of financial stability, like homeownership. In fact, smoking and employment were the only two factors of any significance.

At first, Montez and her co-author suspected that women who are already unhealthy are less able to work and so are already more likely to die. When they investigated that hypothesis, however, it didn’t hold up. Jobs themselves contributed something to health. But what? It could be, the authors suggested, that work connects women to friends and other social networks they otherwise wouldn’t have. Even more squishy sounding, Montez wrote that jobs might give women a “sense of purpose.”

Better-educated women are the most likely to work and to achieve parity with men: Seventy–two percent are in the workforce, compared with 81 percent of their male counter-parts. Women without high-school diplomas are the least likely to work. Only about a third are in the workforce, compared to about half of their male counterparts. If they do find work, women are more likely than men to have minimum-wage jobs. They account for most workers in the largest low-paying occupations—child-care providers, housecleaners, food servers. Even if they do have minimum-wage jobs, this group of women is more likely to leave the labor force to take care of young children because child care is prohibitively expensive.


Another mystery emerged from the lifespan study: Black women without a high-school diploma are now outliving their white counterparts.

As a group, blacks are more likely to die young, because the factors that determine well-being—income, education, access to health care—tend to be worse for blacks. Yet blacks on the whole are closing the life-expectancy gap with whites. In a country where racism still plays a significant role in all that contributes to a healthier, longer life, what could be affecting whites more than blacks?

One theory is that low-income white women smoke and drink and abuse prescription drugs like OxyContin and street drugs like meth more than black women. Despite Crystal’s weight and diabetes, those problems are more common among black women and usually kill more slowly. Meth and alcohol kill quickly. It could be that white women, as a group, are better at killing themselves.

Still, why would white women be more likely to engage in risky behaviors? Another theory is that the kind of place people live in, who is around them, and what those neighbors are doing play a central role. Health is also a matter of place and time.

In March, two researchers from the University of Wisconsin reported that women in nearly half of 3,140 counties in the United States saw their death rates rise during the same time period that Olshansky studied. The researchers colored the counties with an increase in female mortality a bright red, and the red splashed over Appalachia, down through Kentucky and Tennessee, north of the Cotton Belt, and across the Ozarks—the parts of the South where poor white people live. Location seemed to matter more than other indicators, like drug use, which has been waning. The Wisconsin researchers recommended more studies examining “cultural, political, or religious factors.”

Something less tangible, it seems, is shaping the lives of white women in the South, beyond what science can measure. Surely these forces weigh on black women, too, but perhaps they are more likely to have stronger networks of other women. Perhaps after centuries of slavery and Jim Crow, black women are more likely to feel like they’re on an upward trajectory. Perhaps they have more control relative to the men in their communities. In low-income white communities of the South, it is still women who are responsible for the home and for raising children, but increasingly they are also raising their husbands. A husband is a burden and an occasional heartache rather than a helpmate, but one women are told they cannot do without. More and more, data show that poor women are working the hardest and earning the most in their families but can’t take the credit for being the breadwinners. Women do the emotional work for their families, while men reap the most benefits from marriage. The rural South is a place that often wants to remain unchanged from the 1950s and 1960s, and its women are now dying as if they lived in that era, too.


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  • MekongDelta69

    What’s Killing Poor White Women?

    Poor black men…

    • Wethepeople

      Naw it couldn’t be the violent, animalistic, sadistic Bantu we welcome with open arms. I mean they rape and murder at unprecedented rates. They take advantage of impressionable and uneducated young women, impregnating them many times and abandoning them.

      But naw all that wouldn’t make life more difficult, causing death. Gotta be the evil white man, or slavery. That Jim Crow ****-head probably had something to do with it.

    • CharlesFinley

      Government-grown groids, actually.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      I don’t discount what you say as a factor, but I have seen a lot of young white women killing themselves with meth in the Northwest. According to the King County Bar association, it is the leading reason that white women lose custody of their children. I know of one case personally and I don’t expect her to live more than five more years. She is in her late 20s. I have had a very good record of predicting deaths this way.

    • sbuffalonative

      It would be interesting to see how the increasing rates of inter-racial relationships correlates to the increasing numbers of deaths of young white women during the same period.

    • Viking_61

      Jewish sponsored immorality. Just look at who the media goes after from age five – YOUNG WHITE GIRLS.

      Meanwhile the Spitzler, Weiner, and Filner daughters are going to Harvard and graduating at 23 years of age into posh $180k/year jobs at think tanks, advocacy groups, hospitals, and NGOs.

      Good luck being a 4.0 high school grad from West Virginia. Oh wait, your spot was taken by an H-1B applicant from Mumbai. He has never even used deodorant! OY VEY!!!!!

      I expect this post to last a whole 20 seconds.

      • Romulus

        Danke bruder!

      • JohnEngelman

        Just because Jews are superior does not mean that they are responsible for everything you dislike about American society. It does explain why you are jealous of them.

        • Old Sarge

          Just exactly what are Jews superior at besides merely gathering money through subterfuge and currency manipulation???
          I see no noticeable involvement of Jews in producing anything of tangible worth or value such as food, housing, transportation, roads, fuel, tools , industrial equipment, light bulbs, washers and dryers, cars, glass manufacture, wood, tile, cabinets, carpet, shoes and a thousand other products that Whitey produces . You merely gather money through tribal conspiracies , economic manipulation and usury…
          So now tell me how superior you will be when you have killed off your favorite race to glom on to parasitically. Do you really think that your goal of an average 84 IQ

        • They’re not superior. Get over it.

          • JohnEngelman

            In terms of average intelligence, they certainly are.

        • The__Bobster

          Geez, I leave for a month and you’re worse than ever, the same old broken record and then some. Just because we don’t like how the tribe treats us does not mean we’re jealous of them.

          • JohnEngelman

            The broken record is played by those who deny the biological superiority of the Ashkenazi race, and who blame Jews for popular social changes they do not like.

            All I do is point how mistaken they are, documenting my assertions with sources I have found on this website.

  • WmarkW

    Any white American born after 1930 who didn’t graduate high school, must have some other problems, mental or physical, that will shorten their life. Sorry, but for that group high school is strong intelligence marker.

  • Absent a war, genocide, pandemic, or massive governmental collapse, drops in life expectancy are rare

    Well, it is genocide of sorts.

    James Jackson, a public-health researcher at the University of Michigan, believes it’s because life became more difficult for the least-educated in the 1990s and 2000s

    Even though right before this the article said that it’s only whites esp. white women who didn’t graduate HS who are suffering this life expectancy decline, and that other races’ HS dropouts’ LEs were growing.

    Another mystery emerged from the lifespan study: Black women without a high-school diploma are now outliving their white counterparts….Jobs themselves contributed something to health. But what?

    Affirmative action, there’s the answer. Black women who dropped out of HS have it, white women who dropped out of HS don’t. Jobs contribute to health, but what? Duh, health insurance.

    One theory is that low-income white women smoke and drink and abuse prescription drugs like OxyContin and street drugs like meth more than black women.

    Because black women never do crack, weed or heroin.

  • kjh64

    Poorer Whites often don’t get the government benefits that Blacks get. White women or men who apply are often working poor who make just slightly too much money to get these benefits. As a result, such women often don’t have insurance and don’t go to the doctor or they don’t have money for medications .Sure they can go to free or low cost clinics but a lot of Whites don’t. Also, less educated people tend to eat more fattening foods and not exercise as much.

    Also, illegals have driven down wages on jobs and have taken a lot of jobs that used to go to working class, less educated White men and women. That, along with outsourcing, has put working poor Whites in a much worse position. The White husbands of these women used to be able to get a factory job or construction job with benefits, now they don’t so they and their wives don’t have benefits. The same goes to divorced White men and women.

    • borogirl54

      They also eat more processed foods such as ramen noodles and macaroni cheese because they are cheap. Food stamps do not allow most families to get fresh fruits and vegetables because they cannot afford them.

    • pcmustgo

      HMMM, here’s what I think. 50% of Blacks drop out of high school, and a good chunk of them go on to be “middle class” or the norm for blacks, whereas poor whites/white high school drop-outs represent the absolute bottom of whites.

      So it’s more an issue of dropping out of high school being more normal for blacks, and leading to normal death rates.

      What I’m saying is white high school drop outs are a statistically different group than the much larger, more normalized black high school drop outs.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      That’s right. The old, lazy, good for nothing welfare case – criticisms are not all that applicable any longer.

  • White Mom in WDC

    Poor white women, and poor whites in general, have been crapped on and f

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      I agree with you we must embrace all whites, even the ones we currently disagree with politically. People change their minds when survival matters. Marxist, Leftist whites have been brainwashed, just as children are baptized into delusional belief systems before they can think for themselves. They are to be pitied and assisted. The only religion worth our support is based on race, ancestry and its defense.

      • Romulus

        Agreed. HOWEVER, I still maintain the exclusion of the evolutionary dead end people and the tribe. The former for the obvious reasons of evolutionary collapse. If conversion therapy could be equated before gaining acceptance, then maybe. As for the tribe, apologize publicly for the destruction of the West, renounce their ideology and join American traditionalists, then maybe as well. Just a thought.

    • ncpride

      That’s true, White Mom. I rarely look down on my racial kin, no matter their station in life.

      • White Mom in WDC

        Thank you both of you. Whites have been engaged in class warfare, especially over the last few decades. It is sad. This is the tool the Left is using to divide us. Elite’ rich’ left leaning whites look down on poor whites and accuse them if being racist when these whites are rightfully racist when experiencing bad, abusive treatment at the hands of Diversity. The Cult of Diversity KNOWS it can divide whites because we have become do classist. These women have been culled from the herd so to speak

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      In polite company it’s perfectly acceptable, in California it’s obligatory, to bash “rednecks” or “poor white trash”.

      • White Mom in WDC

        And California has the greatest socioeconomic divides, gaps between the poor and the rich when compared to the rest of the country

        • Norseman

          In an article I read LA was listed second to Detroit as the most likely American city to experience riots in the coming years, vectoring in the history of 1965 and 1992. The article speculated that the socioeconomic divides might have played a part, as the city hold up quite well in terms of absolute living standards for the less well off.

          If the above is truth, London in England might also be prime candidate for new riots in addition to last one in 2011.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          I know a few families there and I have witnessed them go from middle class to near poverty in a short time. They were all high school or better. One is a beautiful blond that had a top job as a hostess at a high end winery in Sonoma County. A German attorney bought the place and fired most people, trading the daylights out of the name for profit. This is typical in the wine producing counties in California, by the way.

      • Romulus

        The last person to call me trash or redneck had to eat through a straw for several weeks. Never geuss what kind of hominid it was.

    • Wethepeople

      Very true, white is white. We have enough people out for our blood, looking to destroy our heritage. We must protect our kinsman, not tear them down.

  • Romulus

    See how this article ties in with the league of the south. The Yankees are pouring in from the north (only this time, their not Scot-irish, German or Scandinavian), Mexicans from the south, blacks from everywhere, haji’s, Dots, Asians. The heartland and the south are all that’s left of traditional America in the lower 48 (with a slight nod to the Amish and Dutch). There aren’t enough white boys of marrying age to go around. Those boys have always been disproportionately represented in the military as well. No boys, no babies.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      This is why multiple marriage would be a future necessity – if it isn’t now.

      I blame these wars to save Muslims and allow big corps like General Dynamics and Halliburton to grow rich, BUT ALSO the myth that too many Whites in the South still hold; that they are fighting for their God and Country. That was over with by Vietnam. You’ve noticed the high proportion of white males in the casualty lists in the last ten years haven’t you?

      • Romulus

        As a vet, im intimately aware of the disproportionate representation of white boys in the military since the revolutionary war. I study history relentlessly. However, white Americans should be adamant against losing control of our military demographically, lest it be used against us. What we are lacking is the necessary bonds of traditional families to reproduce our own kin.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          Yeah, it’s a tough call. I have thought of this myself. However, the useless loss of life in really useless wars lately is concerning. However, however, I do think that it is an illusion that we have an “America” to defend for a long time. Our military is fighting for corporate profits.

          This current Syria situation is important to Obama because he needs a distraction from domestic politics right now. We have whites being killed by blacks weekly now in what is impossible to deny are hate crimes.

          • Romulus

            The oil wars are ramping up and will continue. Regional wars over water in the U S have been duking it out in the courts for the last 20 years. America will kick or kiss any azz it has to to prop up the system if it has to. The top end knows that it can’t collect all the arms here. Things will go from bad to worse if more cities go the way of Detroit. Think how fast the govt would act if tens of millions suddenly became awake or started commenting and liking sites such as this. Any change in power generation supplies and or food production will obviate the meta problems that are sure to become more evident.

      • Sick of it

        They are currently holding up signs saying they won’t fight for al Qaeda. So they are starting to get it.

  • dave

    the black men they date.

  • Spartacus

    “Although women generally outlive men in the U.S., such a large decline
    in the average age of death, from almost 79 to a little more than 73,
    suggests that an increasing number of women are dying in their twenties,
    thirties, and forties. “We actually don’t know the exact reasons why
    it’s happened,” Olshansky says. “I wish we did.””


    I have a theory about that…

    • borogirl54

      Will anybody tell me why so many white women are attracted to black men? A lot of them are jobless and have criminal records. They are not marriage material. They will impregnate this women, leaving her with a biracial kid and no white man would ever be attracted to her again.

      • Spartacus

        This was a home invasion, she didn’t know it.

      • Wethepeople

        From what I’ve observed it seems to be motivated by necessity in many cases, and not desire. For instance a young women in an urban environment must surrender herself in tribute to the vast Bantu horde around her. Without capitulation she would be ostracized, attacked, forced into relations and very likely killed. Once at a convenience store, I witnessed a young attractive white girl being propositioned by two Bantu. When she refused their advances one slapped her in the face. It was then that my elbow made forcible contact with his temporomandibular joint. His friend then see,Ed disinterested in intercourse. Back to my point, the white woman with very little male support will be attacked until she has no recourse but to allow them access. This is why you must not raise your white children around blacks, and when he have to be around them we must support each other.

        • bigone4u

          What kind of low-life would give you a down vote for helping protect a white girl who was just struck by a Bantu.

          • itdoesnotmatter

            With the recent MSM article shout out to our site, we’ll see a bit of that for a while.

        • Spartacus

          Any s***-skin that so much as speaks to one of our women should be exterminated along with it’s entire family .

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          The main problem is that somewhere along the line (I know where, actually) white females got the idea that they were invincible and could walk at night alone. We have to face that many of the rapes and murders of them happen after midnight and they were alone. They must be taught that they need an escort and no able white man should ever refuse or fail to offer it. But going out clubbing and walking home at 4:00am is just plain idiotic.

      • Cannot Tell

        I think it’s a desire to appear progressive. I have a white female friend in her early 20s who has dated a black guy. The first time she told me that she’s the “least racist person in the world” (her words, not mine) she pumped her hand into the air and proudly told me that she’s even dated a black guy.

        Fortunately, she has now been with a great white guy for some time. She may not have changed her views on interracial dating, but at least no mulatto will come out of her.

      • RyanP

        I think it has something to do with their(black men) confidence. I frequent a local bar where there are always a small number of black men. I watch the dance floor in amazement at how assertive they are approaching women. White men will offer to buy a girl a drink, black men will be like “Show me what you got girl, back that ass up!” Most white women brush off their advances forcing them to move on. But I think a certain number of them are impressed by their confidence(despite the fact it is not backed up by anything like a good job, respectable social status, etc).

        There is another phenomenon I have noticed. A lot of the interracial pairings I see are relatively thin/athletic looking black men with over weight white women. We all know the stereotype of black men liking big butts. Given this preference, the black man is more tolerant of obesity than the white man when it comes to the physical component of attraction. It’s just a matter of supply and demand after that.

        • pcmustgo

          Yeah, I was going to say this, but didn’t want to offend. White men and classy men in general need to get back into asking women out, approaching women (not in a gross way), being confident enough to do this. I very rarely have men approach me and many women here in NYC say the same thing. It’s like I have to do all the work.

          And yes, you can often see good looking black men paired with ugly white women, just as you would see good looking asian women paired with ugly white men. It’s like they’ll take anyone who is white.

      • The Tank

        It is because white men as an entity have been castrated, especially in regards to how they deal with women. White men are now taught that it is sexist and wrong to initiate, to be aggressive, to be assertive, or to show any other MASCULINE qualities. Opposites attract, if you do not have the masculine, how will you attract the feminine? Blacks on the other hand are encouraged to be assertive, be aggressive, and to seize initiative, in other words to demonstrate these masculine qualities. No small wonder there are some that manage to attract white women.

        • pcmustgo

          Yeah, a large chunk of white males I know here in NYC act gay even if they aren’t gay. The adrogynous, hipster thing is really in with them.

      • pcmustgo

        I would argue the popularity of hip hop and blacks in music has something to do with it.

  • borogirl54

    They, like poor black and Hispanic women do not have access to healthcare. Because of lack of education, they get minimum wage jobs with no benefits. In some cases, if benefits are available, they cannot afford the insurance coverage.

    • Greg Thomas

      Poor mexican women do not have access to health care? I guess you’ve never been to California.

      • borogirl54

        Illegal immigrant women can get Medicaid while they are pregnant but that stops once they deliver the baby. As a US citizen, the baby is eligible for Medicaid, food stamps, WIC, and other benefits.

        • itdoesnotmatter

          borogirl, drop by any time night or day to a California Emergency Room/urgent care in either of the Valleys.
          You will see a packed waiting room with about 4 or less “normal” looking whites, 10 whites who look as if they showed up for a Quentin Tarantino film casting call, the rest are dots, indeterminate race, or adult mestizos, some with screaming, out of control kids.
          Do you for think anyone but the “normal” looking whites are asked for a co-pay on check in?
          My point is, immigrants, kids or not, including illegals, meth or other drug addicted, impoverished, uneducated, low functioning whites have access to pro bono healthcare in CA. If no insurance, all they have to do is show up at an E.R. or low cost clinic with an illness or injury to be signed up for Medicaid.
          Why do you suppose CA is this close to bankruptcy?

    • kjh64

      Poor Black and Hispanic women have good access to medical care. They all get Medicaid.

  • Puggg

    This business about black men terrorizing and assaulting white women has merit.

    I don’t see this all the time, but I see it often enough to be disturbed by it. My county has very very very few real permanent black residents. The few it does have aren’t really permanent residents, they’re just black live in boyfriends of the white women here that just happen to be living here on census day. But those kind of relationships don’t really turn out well.

    You see, white women in my county absorb all the junk propaganda in school about diversity and the saintly black. Then they run up north to the big city and get themselves a black boyfriend. Then she invites him to move in with her. Where it goes wrong is that he thinks he can do our women the same kind of rotten way that he does his own ghetto black women in the big city and she won’t care about it because the ghetto black women just think it’s just the way it is. But what he winds up doing to our women, our women rightly interpret it as criminal domestic violence. So when he whacks her around, she calls 911, and one of my colleagues goes and picks him up, or if it’s in an incorporated city, one of the city’s black-and-whites does the same. Either way, the result is the same: The black bucks are going to spend some time with Uncle Puggg here. Welcome to jail, Rufus. You should be used to that I would think, but you’re not used to jails that aren’t full of blacks I bet.

    • borogirl54

      Like I always said, Nicole Brown Simpson should serve as a warning to any white woman who takes up with a black.

  • KittyAmerica

    Maybe our young women don’t see anything promising about the future on the other hand this must be welcome news to the hedonist pick up men who are against our Western women.

  • Natassia

    Notice, they are pushing poor women to work. As if THAT will “give them a sense of purpose.” Once upon a time raising a family did that. But the feminists killed that. And so now they are urging women to sell their souls to corporatism.

    • Wethepeople

      More time at work, less time to make little white babies. (Their enemy)

    • kjh64

      Feminists didn’t kill that, people very much have a sense of purpose raising a family. However, it costs money to raise a family hence pushing poor women to work. Also, many of these poor women may have grown kids.

      • HaroldWesterling

        Feminists didn’t kill the idea that women should take pride in raising a family? Honestly…what on Earth are you doing on this site? (unless you are a Liberal troll) If you don’t understand the correlation between Cultural MarxismFeminism and the breakdown of the social fabric of White America you have no business commenting here.

      • Natassia

        It costs money, but it is far more affordable to stay home with children than to ship them off to day care all day while paying for an automobile and gasoline.

        It is a lie that women must work to raise a family.

  • bigone4u

    As a former un-PC university prof, here’s my stab at helping the researchers get at the truth of why poor white women are falling behind. It’s the falling behind part that’s new and needs to be explained:
    1. Poor white women are under enormous stress from the close presence of blacks, who nowadays can sexually harass, intimidate, and push them around. We know that stress kills and stress surely must be higher these days for white women hit on by black men. Muzzies, Hindus, and Mesicans do the same, unlike white males who tend to be more respectful of women.
    2. Sexual freedom, a chimera sold to whites by old Siggy Freud and his people. I’ll bet these women are prone to picking up std’s from their promiscuous behavior. The churches reined this in back in the 50s, at least to a degree. STDs can kill the immune system, partly due to the antibiotics that these women take to cure the disease.
    3. Poor white men have no economic opportunity any more since the powers that be sold us out and shipped our jobs to China. The unions used to be for poor white men and they helped our people get medical care, but they sold out to the Democrat agenda of more for blacks.
    4. Southern segregation kept blacks under control to a degree, but if I were a poor southern white woman, black violent crime would be a fear, contribuing to stress.
    5. There’s no social mobility for poor whites anymore. Once you’re poor, you’re poor. It’s likely to create depression to realize that. Then come the prescription drugs, which are not good for you.
    6. The widespread availability of drugs everywhere because of the spread of Mexican drug dealers to every county in the USA. The Mexicans are also always looking for white women to prostitute for them. The Mexican pimps and drug dealing may the the number 1 cause of the problems for poor white women. Some of these Mexican guys are bigger pests than black guys.
    These are ideas I came up with off the top of my head and which the researchers apparently ignore. They wont tell you the reality of it because they’re PC.

    • KittyAmerica

      Excellent. These stories really get to me. I read a Hanna Rosin story recently called Murder by Craigslist, about some working class men desperate for work on farms but met wiith a deadly end. Anyway, all I could think about was how feminism caused all this death and misery. Feminism is demonic anarchy.

      • kjh64

        “Excellent. These stories really get to me. I read a Hanna Rosin story recently called Murder by Craigslist, about some working class men desperate for work on farms but met wiith a deadly end.Anyway, all I could think about was how feminism caused all this death and misery. Feminism is demonic anarchy.””

        Feminism did not cause this and to call feminism “demonic anarachy” is ridiculous.. Greedy business people, who outsource our jobs and flooded this country with cheap labor caused this.

        • KittyAmerica

          Yes, the elimination of manufacturing has destroyed white working class males and their families. The thing is that feminism came first: women in the workplace, change in traditional roles, divorce, race mixing, etc., you know the rest. I am no scholar but I do think that even if we had outsourcing of our jobs but still had traditional roles and families then our families would have stayed together as they did in the depression. Greedy business people are evil but the feminist have caused the total destruction of the foundation of our society.

          • MikeofAges

            Amazing how these women can drive around with “Extinction Is Forever” bumper stickers on the back of their cars and not notice the irony. Makes me think of that old saw “One man, one vote one time”. Only it’s “One woman, one career, one time”. And then they abyss. I don’t think the children these women produce are exactly noted for their reproductive excesses either.

    • Norseman

      One possible reason mentioned by a contributor in the comment section of Prospect article is that the comparison is done between two different segments.
      The reasoning is that because the later groups of white women without an HS diploma comprises a smaller share of the total number of white women, they are more heavily drawn from groups with other disadvantages.

      • pcmustgo

        This is what I said too… 50% of blacks drop out of high school, so that would contain more “normal” blacks , whereas white high school drop outs are truly the bottom tier for whites.

  • KittyAmerica

    In addition to our girls being murdered by their ghetto boyfriend, they also get murdered by ghetto strangers. Like the beautiful Andrea Kruger of Omaha, wife and mother of 3 killed by one who looks as beastly as the devil. If you dare he can be found online: Nikko Jenkins.

    • ShermanTMcCoy

      Guns don’t kill people. N****** kill people.

      • Ngati Pakeha

        Ах ах Шерман. Точно, Ниггерс!

  • Anon

    Racism is killing them off. These are the most likely people in our society to legitimately need welfare. And they are being turned away and told to starve to death because welfare is for blacks only.

    That is not a theory. That is the experience a woman I know had who found herself in desperate straights. Public aid flat out told her they didn’t care what her situation was…..welfare was for blacks only.

    • Sick of it

      I had a divorced cousin with three kids who somehow didn’t qualify for welfare. She made practically nothing. Government services are not for white people.

    • Whitetrashgang

      Yes in Canada welfare is for natives ,I once slept in my car for a month with no food waiting for my workers comp cheque, Welfare told me to borrow money from friends or relatives, being white I just would not do it.

    • pcmustgo

      I’ve known many poor whites who utterly reject the concept of welfare too. I sometimes think these poor whites should be more open to welfare, not less…

  • RonHess

    I don’t know why such people even bother to write articles like this, since their anti-white marxist brainwashing prevents them from reaching a good-faith conclusion. Of course they are too brainwashed to realize they are brainwashed though. Certain personality types are particularly susceptible to this sophisticated propaganda, especially if they have mediocre intelligence. Look at how often the supposed “racism” against blacks is mentioned here. White people who have not experienced poverty simply have no clue. It is whites who are victims in this anti-white marxist hellhole that is the United States under black rule. Brainwashed, insulated white people like this are the primary cause of our downfall, just as they were in South Africa. It is pure planned genocide. The Rothschildists have it down to an art now.

  • CoweringCoward

    No, “diversity” can make school a non-option. My sister had to finish her last couple years through a correspondence course, after they tried to move her into “Cashmere Gardens”.

  • Sick of it

    “Absent a war, genocide, pandemic, or massive governmental collapse, drops in life expectancy are rare.”

    Genocide could be a viable explanation in the light of recent news articles re: black on white violence.

  • negrolocaust

    Late in his life, Shockley became intensely interested in questions of race, intelligence, and eugenics.
    He thought this work was important to the genetic future of the human
    species, and came to describe it as the most important work of his
    career, even though expressing such politically unpopular views risked
    damaging his reputation. When asked why he seemed to take positions
    associated with both the political right and left, Shockley explained
    that his goal was “the application of scientific ingenuity to the
    solution of human problems.”[28]

    Shockley argued that the higher rate of reproduction among the less intelligent was having a dysgenic effect, and that a drop in average intelligence would ultimately lead to a decline in civilization.[29]
    Shockley advocated that the scientific community should seriously
    investigate questions of heredity, intelligence, and demographic trends,
    and suggest policy changes if he was proven right.[30]

    Although Shockley was concerned about dysgenic effects among both
    blacks and whites, he perceived the situation among blacks as more
    problematic. According to 1970 US Census,
    unskilled and skilled whites had on average 3.7 and 2.3 children,
    respectively, whereas the corresponding numbers for blacks were 5.4 and

  • robinbishop34

    As a white woman, I work daily on making healthy choices. By healthy choices I mean healthy foods, regular exercise, and a white man and child. To say that I have a hostile attitude towards white women who actually believe they are ‘progressive’ by dating genetically inferior negroes or other non-whites would be giving credit to those ‘people.’

    I can’t even speak of these cretins as actual humans. They are just worthless throw aways to me. I can’t even help it.

  • Norseman

    Did not Jon Huntsman get a GED after dropping out of high school?

  • kjh64

    This is true. People who don’t go on to get a high school diploma very much tend to be dysfunctional or of low intelligence. White women in this category tend to not eat right or exercise, tend to smoke, drink and do drugs more and make bad social choices, bad men etc. which lowers life expectancy.

  • ConantheContrarian

    He was a homosexualist.

  • Bossman

    Poor and uneducated white women smoke more, they are generally overweight from eating junk food. A lot of them own dogs these days which does not contribute to a healthy lifestyle. White women as a group have always been more delicate than women of other races and consequently need more resources.

  • Nick A Siggers

    Hydrogenated fat, high fructose corn syrup, to many carbs in general, and not enough healthy fats.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    Being politically and economically oppressed and dispossessed is killing whites at younger and younger ages. Worse yet, non-whites are murdering us, infecting us with STD’s and in general creating conditions of life that prevent births among us, and kill or harm children that are born. We are under ever worsening economic, social and psychological pressure and stress. In other words, white’s lifespans are falling because of the global elite’s campaign of genocide against all whites globally.

  • JohnEngelman

    In addition to being more feminine, Oriental women have the added appeal of tending to be more intelligent.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      Certainly, Feminism has made most Western women into very unattractive, problematic propositions.

    • You’re a real weirdo on that score. My favorites were divorced gals.

    • “They are more likely to be virgin too.”

      How would you know?

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    Actually, it’s everything people are saying here. In the cases of meth, I happened to know about that since many young mothers use it to try to loose weight. I recall years ago, and I mean in the 1980s, an MD in Seattle was finally busted after a couple decades of legally dealing out meth to females for weight loss, etc.

    One of the biggest contributors, something sbuffalonative says below is part of it; the promises of feminism has failed most young women. The more they are told to be assertive and self-confident, the worse the majority of them seem to become. All young people, but especially females seem to have a big problem with self-respect, not self-confidence, especially the phony kind they learn through the chanting and demanding they are taught. Most girls can’t be the prom queen and they hate it. It’s real easy to be the center of attention as the only white girl in a group of mud men. Also, the MSM seems to feed young women the lifestyle of being wild and risk taking as a way of proving their value. In short, it’s all messed up beyond all recogniion (FUBAR).

    How to change it? I really don’t know. IF you are older like me, try to find a worthy subject and help them if they can be helped. I am helping a young guy with two beautiful white children whose wife went downhill on drugs as per this discussion. The way he describes it is that she is just weak. One of the kids is female, the other male. I think maybe I can at least make sure those two are casualties.

  • Martel

    I believe that men and women being forced out of their natural roles causes confusion, depression, an addiction to nihilistic lifestyles and even suicide.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    Hate to say you’re wrong, but you are. The big problem is that Feminism killed Chivalry and took the role of men as their protectors from them by telling them (in many ways, some legal) to leave them alone. I can’t remember how many times women demonstrated in the most hypocritical fashions back then. Men have had no choice but to let women go their own way and make their own mistakes. We see where it has all led, today.

    You may not remember the Helen Ready anthem of the Feminist movement in the 70s, “I am Woman!” It says, “If I have to, I can do anything!” Of course, that’s hyperbole, but many women took it seriously and it is still assumed to be true even when we have overwhelming evidence that it is not so. Anyone that may be interested in the fledgling Men’s Movement would find some interesting stuff on youtube. One of the best proponents of men’s rights and anti-feminism is a woman. Her youtube handle is “girlwriteswhat.” She has a great one called “Femapocalypse.” It’s basically about the economic collapse that will absolutely occur soon because of the cost of women comprising over 50% of the work force. (And that is just one angle of the collapse that I see coming).

    • Romulus

      Correct. One way or another, this gigantic global machine is going to grind to a halt. The restrictions on weren’t freedoms are but a prelude. populations have exploded over the course of the period known as the industrial era. The world is already at critical mass, far exceeding resource input to sustain it or grow the economy. All the world needs is a catalyst (Syria ?) To jump start the party. Titanic shifts in demographics will create huge upheaval as societies are strained to their limits. Why do you think disarmament is occurring all over the West. We are next.
      The goal of the left is to force the peace as earths winds back down to natural carrying capacity. To make the transition in the absence of fossil fuels necessary to match for scale, easier to manage. I think most on amren and related sites are WIDE AWAKE or putting the pieces together in all haste. Be normal and live life, but preparedness, even if another hurricane sandy or other catastrophe occurs, people won’t be caught off guard.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    I worked for a while in a poor region of the SF Bay area and learned that most white girls lost their virginity through what amounted to rape. It was taken to be the norm by most of them, it seemed.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    Good book on this: “The War Against Boys” by Christine Hoff-Sommers. She has just recently put out a sequel to her first edition.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    This is why many people were married in the rural areas of America until just recently. I had a girlfriend in the late 1960s whose parents married at 16 in Texas. Catholic or Protestant didn’t matter.

  • Mark Hillyard

    I’ve known “liberated” women who will work like a man for several years doing manual labor like gardening and landscaping and by the time they are 35-40 years old they look pretty beat up. I just think that women were not manufactured to go our and wield an ax every day, Plus the richer women get out there and beat themselves goofy trying to be ever so healthy. My theory on running and muscle building is, ‘I’ve only got so many miles in those legs and joints so don’t abuse them.’

    • mendells-selection

      “Career” women, whether they do physical labor or office work, have few if any children, and they spend their adult lives worrying about breast cancer. One of the most effective ways of reducing the chances of getting breast cancer to near zero is to have several children. Abortion actually INCREASES breast cancer rates. The simple traditional lives protected people from diseases both physical and emotional. The media truly has performed a genocide on white America. It is not too late to turn this around. A recent study showed that women who chose careers did so for one reason, because they felt they were not attractive enough to ever get a mate. Women naturally want to be mothers and wives, it requires a constant drum beat of propaganda by the media to turn them against their natural desires. They are seduced with careerism, sexual hedonism, materialism. If a strong white male dominated government took over, and changed society, most people would go along with very easily, it is what they really want inside. The left needs to win every day, every day they must maintain their constant drumbeat of propaganda. Propaganda through media and advertising and fake news stories and bogus studies by bogus groups with bogus credentials.

      A very strong white government would only have to win once, by taking power and seizing control of media and other institutions. This is not as anti-freedom as it may first sound, we used to have such controls, through anti pornography laws and other social restrictions that were not codified as laws. The hearts and minds of most whites would naturally be won over, if for no other reason than it would turn off the spigot of garbage and mind control that is driving people away from their natural inclinations. Tax laws could be written that would heavily penalize childlessness, which would have the added benefit of removing money-and therefore political power, from groups such as gays and feminists.

      It’s time to start thinking of a game plan. WE can’t just sit around and think that the constitution and the present government will somehow protect us. The present government is out to wipe us out, it is our enemy. WE must formulate a roadmap of coming back politically- a white ethnostate, or ethnocommunities, and demographically-reversing feminism and celebrating the natural roles for the sexes.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    I’m 61 and I was discriminated against for being white when applying for a job at the State Capitol in Sacramento in 1971. I was qualified and even had a connection through my sister’s employer, who was a senator. I showed up weekly for two months in a suit. Then, the new speaker announced that all Special Services would henceforth be minorities. Three years later, a female pushed her way into my job when I had a short term injury. I was relegated to lesser duties and finally laid off. I went back to college, spent almost a decade and found discrimination and harassment creeping into the health care professions until I finally had enough of all of it and the corruption that seemed to come with it (Diversity and all that jazz) five years ago.

    White privilege is a myth. It only makes sense that the host population of whatever race or religion, etc., would have the most advantages in their own nation or society. To make a campaign to steal that from that host population and give it to others int he name of anything, is blatant subterfuge and is actually found well ensconced in the playbook of the Communist Party of the USA and now the Left in General.

    • Romulus

      Also correct.

  • Swanny Feather

    Poor white women do not pursue higher education ,because they can’t afford it. Due to tracking in the public schools many of them do not have the preparation necessary to do well in college even if they could go to college. Futhermore, if they are tracked into vocational programs , they are usually given training in pink collar ghetto jobs like beautician. Such jobs allow worthless men to have contact with them whenever they so desire. This raises the chances of out of wedlock children or sham marriages for those women.

    As far as poor women being fat it is hard to exercise and work three minimum wage jobs. Such diseases as cushings disease and hypothyroidism which cause obesity will not be treated by medicaid doctors. Also unlike rich women poor women can not afford gastric bypass surgeries. I really do not notice much difference in the eating habits of poor women versus rich women. I suspect much of the obesity problems in this country may be laid at the feet of bad healthcare.

    I think poor women might be better off getting into well paying blue collar trades such as plumbing ,pipefitting, glassblowing, airconditioner repair than they would be going to college to major in sociology. Anything that pays well and does not demand they socialize with customers too much would be good for them . With money they could pay for the tutoring most of them need to overcome educational deficits. Money from the trades could also pay for college enabling them to jump more easily to a higher class.

    Of course,there is resistance to poor white women bettering their lot. There are segments of society who consider it a sign of progress when whites and blacks are equally destitute. I think for obvious reasons many people would prefer young white women work as strippers, waitresses, and beauticians. Furthermore feminism was not a boon for poor women. Inorder, for wealthy women to function at a high level babysitters, nannies and housekeepers are needed. Those women must be willing to work long and hard for low pay. It is easier to find women who are willing to work crummy low status jobs if many women are barred from recieving a good education in their formative years .

  • pcmustgo

    WRONG. Wealthy kids are more likely to be bullied… Usually the poor girls are the bullies.

  • pcmustgo

    I used to hold such views myself. Used to…

  • Bossman

    Glad you asked the question. When I see poor people living in cheap apartments owning dogs, I say to myself, there goes a stupid low class person.

    • jane johnson

      You still haven’t answered the question. How does owning a dog contribute to early death? I’m assuming that the dogs aren’t actually killing these young women.

      • dean53

        Having a dog is symptomatic of poor money management. I know a very poor white woman who has had a succession of dogs she absolutely cannot afford. She spends money on dog food (and cigarettes, drugs & booze & $100 tennis shoes) that she should spend on herself for food and keeping her utilities turned on. She gets water from the nearby park in gallon jugs and walks home with it. Her electricity is frequently disconnected. This leaves her with no air conditioning in the 100 degree summers and no heat in the freezing winters. Yet she spends money feeding a big 50+ pound dog. Yes, I can see that this might contribute to a shortened life span.

        • jane johnson

          Sounds like the dog is the least of her problems, and at 50+ lbs might actually be a decent investment in personal security.

          • MikeofAges

            Again, you have the issue of competency in managing anything. Any adult should be able to determine the nutritional and other needs of the animal, and meet them in the most economical way. In a gnarly neighborhood, a big dog might be a valuable asset. The exercise and space needs of the animal have to be considered too. These could vary by breed or type and maybe somewhat by gender more than by size.

        • Bossman

          Unless it is for personal security, poor people should not own dogs.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    However, the pressure that they are under ought to be under is what ought to be fought, not them. Instead of condemning them for where they are, we should condemn the system that put them there and change it, and I don’t mean by standing arrogantly and yelling, “Go get a job,” at them!

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    I see a lot of it around here and my own niece and a cousin’s daughter married or birthed a black man’s children and are now raising them with the help of their parents. The story is all too common. White girls have for a long time been convinced that blacks are cooler than whites. I have witnessed black behavior towards white females since the 60s in high school. They never let up on the pressure and they are very smooth talkers. Females are basically easy if they think you are cool (alpha).

  • dean53

    Sexual promiscuity, feminism & abortion have hurt poor white women. Before, society expected women to be chaste until marriage, and men were expected to take care of their women and children. If a man got a woman pregnant, everyone expected him to marry her. Nowadays, since women can choose to abort their babies, men can also choose to abandon their pregnant girlfriends. The truth is that poor white women desperately need a man to take care of them, but modern society mocks and ridicules male-dependent women. This attitude is epitomized by such sneers as: “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle” and “I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession…” The love and protection that poor white men give to poor white women and children is thereby belittled as irrelevant and inconsequential.

    Hence, the weakest and most vulnerable women are left to fend for themselves. Obviously, millions of them are not doing a very good job on their own. Contrary to what some would have us believe, a welfare check & government housing is a very poor substitute for a man. So a “liberated,” sexually promiscuous, uneducated, poor white woman cannot attract and hold a decent man and dies five years prematurely. Sad. I personally know such a woman, and she fits all the stereotypes to a “T” — junior high school drop out, illegitimate children by multiple fathers, smoker, meth use and the occasional black boyfriend who beats her. Needless to say, she’s not a happy camper as evidenced by her occasional suicide attempts.

  • MikeofAges

    “What could be affecting whites more than blacks?” How ’bout racism?

  • mdottwo

    Poor white men abuse and psychologically kill poor white women. It’s on TV news everyday! You want to blame the early deaths of white women on poor black men? Yes there is miscegenation, but that happens to a minority of white women.

    “…violent, sadistic, rape” is the preeminent venue of white men towards white women. Do any of you people watch TV or go to the movies. 90% of the stories are about white men being violent, sadistic, raping, and murdering white women of all classes. How many times this week have you seen the dead body of a white woman on a TV series?

    I believe the break down of poor white families, out of wedlock childbirth, which is 40% for American white women, and the collapse of church attendance among poor whites, which has been replaced by drugs, sex and amoral entertainment, are the major factors for years being shaved off the life expectancy of poor white women.