The Real Story of Detroit’s Economy

Frank Joyce, Salon, September 3, 2013

As a life-long Detroiter who has lived both in the city and the suburbs, I’ve been fascinated by the media frenzy over Detroit’s bankruptcy. Like most big news topics these days, Detroit has become a screen onto which people project whatever political viewpoint they have.

First off, it’s worth considering why the bankruptcy is getting so much attention. Is there really that much there, there? After all, as with any bankruptcy, isn’t it just an argument among some people about some money (or artworks, real estate and other assets).

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Admittedly municipal bankruptcy is not as common as private sector bankruptcy. (Not yet anyway.) So, up to a point, the “look, look, a man is biting a dog” scenario is justifiably in play. Further, because cities are units of elected governments, there is understandably a different sense of the stakes.

In that context, what the MSM is mostly missing is the extent to which bankruptcy is but the latest incremental step in a long running destruction of democracy for African-Americans. As of this writing more than 55% of Michigan’s African American population lives in communities under some form of Emergency Management. That means state government has already taken away the authority of locally elected officials. Bankruptcy just moves that disenfranchisement to the federal level.

That does make news though because unlike state “emergency manager” laws, Chapter 9 federal bankruptcy puts the banks, bondholders, bond insurers and hedge funds who lent the city money at risk. That is something Michigan Governor Rick Snyder had worked very hard to avoid. {snip}

Predictably, what also excites and dominates MSM coverage is the blame game. The liberals did it or the blacks brought this on themselves, scream the “conservatives.” It’s the racists and the right wing’s fault, say the “liberals.”

The noise can be deafening. What follows is I hope a quieter version of what the “bankruptcy” of Detroit means.

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If Detroit is so bankrupt and dysfunctional, how can that be?

Government? Apparently, we don’t need no stinkin’ government. {snip} That’s the lesson to be learned from watching what people do as opposed to the hand-wringing things some people say. Want to see a close up of the shared dream of Karl Marx and Grover Norquist? Come to Detroit where the “state” has truly withered away, or been drowned in the bathtub. Take your pick.

Well some of government as we know it anyway—the part where Detroiters had some say in their own destiny. The reality is that Detroit has been “governed” for some time by a dizzying array of state “emergency managers” and other state agency takeovers; private/public partnerships; private services for security, waste management, worker training and many other things formerly done by elected government and regional authorities of various kinds, not to mention many foundation invented organizations. (Detroit Free Press reporter John Gallagher does a good job of describing some of these dynamics in two books, Reimagining Detroit and Revolution Detroit. He also profiles many of the authentic grass roots initiatives underway in the city.)

Illustrating the theory that the exception proves the rule, the sound of wailing recently heard about the possible sale of artworks from the Detroit Institute of Art (DIA) is an example of one Detroit asset suburbanites care about that they did not get around to protecting or relocating.

Does all this rearranging of the chairs mean that Detroit is now the promised land? Of course not—it is anything but. For most residents, life is difficult at best. Exhibit A would be the impact of fourteen years of control of Detroit Public Schools by the state government in Lansing. The results have been disastrous, despite the best efforts of Detroit’s teachers who give new meaning to the term public servants.

The physical devastation of the city is breathtaking. Much of what you have read from self-proclaimed Detroit haters and defenders is accurate. The debt accumulated with the aggressive help of Wall Street over the decades is staggering. Repeated lay-offs of city workers have severely curtailed even basic services.

To be sure, corruption and incompetence from elected officials has played a role. It has made already bad situations even worse than they needed to be. It has diverted needed resources to addressing the corruption instead of dealing with other problems. And it has been like catnip to whites who like to argue that it proves Detroit can’t govern itself.

Imprisoned former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick provides the best and most well known target of all. But what most whites don’t know or won’t admit is that he was well on his way to being defeated for reelection until a cadre of white businessmen with major interests in the city came up with hundreds of thousands of dollars in 11th hour campaign funds.

None of Detroit’s problems showed up suddenly. Seen from a long term perspective, the bankruptcy filing comes into clearer focus. As with Ronald Reagan’s firing of unionized air traffic controllers (PATCO) or the Supreme Court’s validation of big money control of politics in Citizen’s United, Detroit’s bankruptcy is the effect of democracy’s power already lost—not the cause of it. It is but one more small step in a decades-long process.

And yes, race does have everything to do with it. There are three counties that make up the political economy of Southeast Michigan. Wayne County encompasses Detroit but also includes large suburbs such as Dearborn, Livonia (the most segregated city of more than 200,000 residents in the entire country) and most of the affluent Grosse Pointes. Oakland County immediately north of Detroit is the 4th most affluent county of its size in the United States. Nearby Macomb County is predominately working class and the “birthplace” of “Reagan Democrats”.

Much of the Detroit punditry one reads or hears conveniently ignores race altogether, concentrating instead on the decline of the domestic auto industry or macro economic trends. Usually when race is included on a list of “causes for Detroit’s decline,” it is described with weasel words such as “racial tensions” or “the racial divide.” Nonsense. What it was and what it remains, is white racism pure and simple. Bloviators love to talk about the “unsustainable legacy” costs of pensions for city workers. They never talk about the “legacy” costs of racism.

By 1980, African Americans out numbered whites within the city limits of Detroit. Yes, capital started leaving Detroit in the 1940’s. But the population disinvestment is just as important. Make no mistake about it. The extreme segregation that has long characterized Southeast Michigan was anything but accidental.

For decades, it was the policy of the Federal Housing Administration to deny loans to African Americans trying to buy houses in the suburbs. To this day, if you buy a suburban house that hasn’t changed hands in a long time, the deed may well contain a “restrictive covenant” that explicitly prohibits the sale of the house to Negroes.

That’s not all. Twenty-three out of twenty-three attempts to create a tri-county transportation authority to improve region-wide public transit went down to defeat in the white controlled state legislature. So, not only was it impossible for African Americans to buy homes near where the jobs were moving, it was difficult to get to suburban jobs that came along with suburban growth.

And just to add insult to injury, the financial institutions that wouldn’t lend money to African Americans to move out of the city wouldn’t lend it for home improvement in the city either. But they would charge more, far more, for home and car insurance. For those too young to remember, that practice was called redlining. It’s still prevalent today.

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Zooming out our historical lens even further, we see the unbroken pattern of white supremacy even more clearly. The counterrevolution to the civil war was the Jim Crow system. The counterrevolution to the end of Jim Crow is mass incarceration and other components of the institutionalized racism that perpetuate and in some ways intensify white privilege today. Detroit’s history as the national leader in residential segregation and all that flows from it definitely underpins today’s Detroit crisis and that of Flint, Pontiac, Benton Harbor and Muskegon as well.

While observers sometimes notice that a majority of predominately African American cities in Michigan are under some form of emergency management. The question they don’t ask is, why are there predominately African American cities in the first place?

The beauty of this “willful ignorance” for many whites is that as the quality of life declined in Detroit, the decline itself became the moral justification for whites for the inequality itself. It’s an old story. Slave society did the very same thing. Slaves were routinely portrayed as lazy and shiftless. To put the meme in contemporary terms, the slaves were demonized as the takers and the slave owners were the makers.

If you want to see how this dynamic plays out today, just read the abusive and sickening comments following any news story local, or national, about Detroit’s troubles. For that matter just read the Detroit News—the “official” newspaper of white flight. Back in the day it was editorial policy of the News to publish a front page story every day about a crime committed by an African-American.

Recently Detroit News Editor Nolan Finley, who has built his career on being the most steadfast and flamboyant carrier of the “white man’s burden,” published a much hyped editorial titled “Can Detroit Govern itself?” You can guess how he answered his own question.

And his coded speech is unmistakable. Everyone knows that what Finley really means is can African Americans govern themselves? To which my answer is absolutely, if you and your one-percent pals were capable of allowing such a thing. A step in the right direction would be for the News to publish a reflective piece on how its coverage of the city and its hate filled comments section helps perpetuate racism and segregation.

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Whatever the ultimate outcome of Detroit’s municipal bankruptcy drama, we can be certain of one thing. It won’t fix any of the underlying problems of systemic racial, political and economic dysfunction.

For that, we will have to rely on ourselves. And more and more, we are doing just that. For those of us who believe the current dominant order is not only not working, but a menace to life on earth, Detroit is exactly where we want to be. We are proud and grateful to be in the place and the time where we get to have a part in making another world happen.

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  • g1081688

    Yeah, Black rule for decades with only Whites being involved through paying taxes to Detroit, but it’s somehow the White Man’s fault. Right.

    • FormerlyEdNY

      Come on! What else could it be other then the evil White man?

      • Romulus

        Love the avatar!

        • exLibtard

          Your minimalist avatar is quite interesting.

          • Romulus

            Thank you. I think it describes alot of Americas problems and the emotions I have in my heart towards said problem.

          • MekongDelta69

            The avatar (or whatever “the kids” are calling that these days!) is great, but that’s only half the problem.

            If I changed my ‘icon’ (or ‘avatar’, or whatever) to Mr. Van Driessen (from Beavis and Butthead), would that pretty much wrap up the other half of the problem?!

          • Romulus

            Was that not the military man? I can’t recollect

          • MekongDelta69

            Van Driessen was their teacher with the long blond hair, who wore Birkenstocks and peace logos on his t-shirts, and sang “Lesbian Seagull”!

            I think you’re thinking of the guy who ran the bar at the local American Legion. (I don’t remember his name.)

            Or maybe their Phys. Ed. teacher who used to be in the Service. (I don’t remember his name either.)

            When they got mad, they both used to go apoplectic and you thought their heads would explode!

          • Romulus

            Ahh! Yes! Now i remember. Never liked that sissy teacher!
            My icon refers to our nemsis and the feelings i have towards them as a whole

          • B&BH was my guilty pleasure during its first run.

            The gym teacher was Bradley Buzzcut. The legionnaire was Tom Anderson, that character inspired Hank Hill in Mike Judge’s next animated series, “King of the Hill.”

            My favorite B&BH was when Beavis got deported to Mexico. Yes, deportations do happen, even if they’re only in cartoons.

            Mike Judge directed Idiocracy, probably the most underrated movie of the last ten years.

          • CoweringCoward

            Idiocracy, as I have often said was totally prophetic. We elected our “President Kamacho” 500 years early!

          • AfricanRockFish

            “Bill” and Sgt. Buzzcut!

          • CoweringCoward

            I was hoping you could come up with an Avatar with the same as your current subject matter, but engaged in the “behavior” all know “they” have. Really where are their other 3 hands?

    • sbuffalonative

      One would think that after the racist white man left with his oppressive racism and his doctrine of white supremacy, black communities would surpass any society the racist white man ever created.

      • bigone4u

        Right you are. Note how the black man in Africa, free of whitey, has found the cure for cancer, sent black men to Mars, and achieved an average IQ level of 200 plus through science. Black genius always comes out when whitey is banished.

        • Sheik Yerbouti

          Sorry, but the only black space program to date involves a 40 ounce and an 8 ball of crack.

  • MekongDelta69

    Article from Salon

    Ignore article

    Next…

    • [Guest]

      Most of these “news” sources are useful only to get the dander up or to make it clear how warped the opposition’s thinking really is.

    • sbuffalonative

      After the Lane murder, Salon posted this story (google): ‘The right’s black crime obsession’, Salon. The left became obsessed with disproving the ‘theory’ of black on white crime

      I sent the piece to AR but they didn’t post it.

      In a previous article (‘What I learned from getting shot’, Salon), the author reported that he and his boyfriend had been robbed twice by blacks wearing hoodies.

      Robbed twice and once shot and this ‘progressive’ liberal was proud that he never developed a racist attitude toward blacks.

      • MekongDelta69

        In a previous article (‘What I learned from getting shot’, Salon), the author reported that he and his boyfriend had been robbed twice by blacks wearing hoodies.

        Is there ANYBODY left in this world who is NORMAL?

        ANYBODY?…

        • NorthSea

          I had to do a double-take on that as well.

        • sbuffalonative

          I deliberately included that fact just to see what reaction it would get and I wasn’t disappointed.

        • Brian

          LGBTQLMNOP…at what point in the future will we have to start adding Greek letters to this alphabet soup?

        • The way I see it, normality includes various shades of grey. Anything REALLY loose in the United States tends to wind up in California (my theory is that our country is tilted).

          The three of us spent most of the last week at my mother’s place, in Boulder. While my mother had Ariadne and my nephew, Sayaka and I drove to the Pacific Mercantile in Denver, to stock up on Japanese food. As we walked hand-in-hand down the street, some… er… “person” screeched “I saw you looking at me! You need to sign this ‘gay rights’ petition!”

          Ever the diplomat, I replied “A twink like you wouldn’t know what to do with a woman even if you found one, except maybe style her hair.”

          The petition was probably calling for the repeal of the Second Law of Thermodynamics, due to it being racist and homophobic.

          Your surmise about there being almost no normal people left in general circulation is correct. They’ve probably all been moved to a reservation somewhere.

      • Sloppo

        He’s proud of his stupidity. Amazing.

      • CoweringCoward

        What I learned from getting shot, NOTHING.

      • Birger_Skruddusvingen

        A. “the author reported that he and his boyfriend had been robbed twice by blacks wearing hoodies.”

        B: “Robbed twice and once shot and this ‘progressive’ liberal was proud that he never developed a racist attitude toward blacks.”

        Good. Too stupid to be allowed to procreate anyway.

    • evilsandmich

      As of this writing more than 55% of Michigan’s African American population lives in communities under some form of Emergency Management

      Oops, got his causation and correlation backwards. Happens to the best of them at Salon.

  • Daniel Schmuhl

    Every political ideology has a different narrative to push on why Detroit failed. For liberals and populists it’s due to free trade and capitalism, this explanation fails tremendously when you consider that lots of other major manufacturing cities that are not majority black have managed just fine. The conservatives and libertarians like to blame it on the Democrats and big government in general ignoring the fact that many majority white areas vote Democrat and manage alright even if that’s not optimal.

    The only factors that really explains most of it is demographics and IQ. IQ matters for societies even more than it does individuals according to research by economists like Garett Jones at George Mason University. Having a prosperous economy depends on a complex networks of trust cooperation which can’t exist in majority black areas because they rationally don’t trust one another. Combine this with the fact that the division of labor is limited among blacks because of low intelligence and you have a recipe for poverty.

    • evilsandmich

      Don’t forget forced bussing; I’m still puzzled how whites back in the day tolerated that.

      • Strider73

        Many of them did not tolerate it. There were riots in Boston. Buses were firebombed in Denver. A lot of all-white private schools were founded. In the end, unfortunately, the lure of “free” public schools was too strong for too many.

        Also, there were no courageous state legislatures. Had just one of them scrapped its compulsory attendance laws and shut down the public schools, others might have followed suit.

        • And now, our “conservative” state legislature for the better part seems to be content with deseg by any other means.

      • Spartacus

        They protested it, but nobody cared…

    • Norseman

      How do you think Detroit, with the present demographic, would have done with ideal policies carried out by non-corrupt leaders?

      • Daniel Schmuhl

        That’s a difficult question to answer. It would definitely be better with a lower tax burden because unlike California it doesn’t have great weather or some of the other advantages. Having high taxes, bad weather, and blacks isn’t really a recipe for attracting people to your city.

  • Huh? Can anybody make heads or tails of this mess? I think he’s saying that PATCO and slavery ruined Detroit. He says something about “conservatives” blaming race, though I am not aware that any lamestream conservatives, outside of about an hour of Rush Limbaugh citing a Zev Chafets book, (and that book’s thesis is a bit flawed), all lamestream conservatives do is blame liberal and Democrats.

    One thing we have to remember, those of us who will be running the country after the future white American ethnonationalist movement is successful: We simply must have enough nuthouses, because there are a lot of kooks like Frank Joyce.

    • Strider73

      No nuthouses. Why should our taxes support Joyce and his fellow kooks? Just ship them off to Haiti with the blacks they so dearly love. The fact that they will be killed about 10 minutes after arriving is just icing on the cake.

      • QD to his future children: “This is your brain” (as I place my index finger on their skulls.) “This is race-denying egalitarianism.” (As I show them a copy of The Mismeasure of Man.). “This is your brain on race-denying egalitarianism.” (As I point to a committed Frank Joyce in a straight jacket.)

      • CoweringCoward

        First class freight liner tickets for all.

  • shawnmer

    You think this cretinous author is remotely capable of realizing how badly he just embarrassed himself?

    • Probably not.

      • Brian

        Perfect example of Dunning-Kruger Effect.

  • [Guest]

    All my life I’ve been told about how wonderful black people are, how inventive, industrious, and hard working; how proud, honest, and noble; how capable at dealing with hardship and adversity (usually supposedly imposed on them by white people).

    So, let ’em rebuild Detroit … and I don’t mean through a bailout with federal dollars extracted from productive white citizens.

    The truth is that where black people are, collapse and ruin are never far behind.

    • shawnmer

      Still trying to figure out how only one of these 2 “equal”-in-ability populations seems wholely dependent on not only the other’s financial resources via taxation, but need our very physical presence as well!

      • Brian

        Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if a group of Africans shipwrecked on the North American coast around 1500AD. Whites had a hard enough time at Jamestown, Roanoke and Plymouth. Eventually though, they pushed through and took the continent. I cannot imagine a scenario where Africans could have managed not to get driven into the sea by the native Indians.

        • They would have disappeared, without even writing something mysteriously cool like “Croatoan”.

          • Brian

            Even more mysterious is how they ever would have obtained a sea-worthy sailing ship to wreck over here in the first place. That’s a deus ex machina I guess.

    • sbuffalonative

      Exactly.

      Blacks were supposed to have invented everything from philosophy to medicine to mathematics and yet they don’t seem to know how to apply any of these innovative principles to themselves.

      The question these people never answer is WHY do black communities devolve after whites leave? If blacks are so creative and industrious, why do their communities collapse after the evil racist white folks leave? Shouldn’t they thrive without evil racist white folks holding them back and ‘keep them down’?
      The answer is obvious and the reporters at Salon are paid to lie.

      • Brian

        Standard excuse is some mumbling about white flight. How dare YT take his businesses, jobs, capital and ideas with him when he leaves? These numbnuts think white flight is the cause of the problem rather than the result of it.

      • Irishgirl

        Zimbabwe.

    • CoweringCoward

      To have noticed this makes you and evil racist!

  • GB101

    Yep, the city was run efficiently by its elected black officials and the state managers took over just because they don’t like black people running things, however good a job they are doing.

  • Jefferson

    The Bantu politicians who run the city of Detroit, have an I.Q that is equal to that of the average Burger King employee.

    • CoweringCoward

      I suspect that even in Burger King employment there are great differences in IQ across the varied staff and duties. The average Detroilet “leader” is maybe only slightly bested by the parking lot sweeper.

  • Spartacus

    “So, not only was it impossible for African Americans to buy homes near
    where the jobs were moving, it was difficult to get to suburban jobs
    that came along with suburban growth.”

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    Does none of these people wonder why jobs are always where White people are ?

    • bubo

      The job fairy just doesn’t visit blacktown. Makes as much sense as Salon’s reasons.

    • bigone4u

      Spartacus, don’t you know that jobs are racist. Actually, the libtards claim that business owners are racist and move jobs to white areas. Yeah, right. Unanswered is why blacks are incapable of starting a good business. It’s the IQ.

      • newscomments70

        NO ONE wants to hire blacks. Businesses want to hire whites and Asians for admistrative positions. They hire Mexicans for labor. Who in God’s name would want to hire blacks? Even blacks don’t want to hire blacks. Call it racism or whatever PC term you choose, this is reality. No one wants to hire someone who will steals from them and brutally attacks them.

  • Wethepeople

    Who woulda thunk it? Their blaming whites, racism and segregation!!! Glad we have a bunch of fresh thinkers over at salon.

    As to the bit about the newspaper having a black criminal on the headline every day. I enjoy how libs strive to find any explanation besides the most obvious. The blacks were on the headline for crimes because blacks commit a large number of horrific crimes. Simple. Sadly I spent time reading this trash because Mr. Joyce failed to learn of Occams Razor in school.

  • APaige

    Sounds like Tim Wise wrote this ‘article.’ “why are there predominately African American cities in the first place?” Well, because no one wants to live near blacks.

    • ViktorNN

      Very true. They say we’re racists and want to live separate from blacks like it’s a bad thing.

      Let this idiot go live next to them and send his kids to an all-black school if he’s so morally superior.

    • tyree1

      Especially people who work at salon

    • Melanie

      “Oppressive YTs oppress us by not wanting to stay around and oppress us”. They make it very plain that they’d like to keep YTs around, working and producing, and forking all the fruits of our labor over to them. They want to be slave master, that’s all this amounts to. They simmer with frustration because they’re not smart enough to just outright enslave whites, and need the complicity of white traitors or whites too naive to see what’s really happening and what they really mean, to do so.

      They choke with rage that whites do just fine living apart from them, but the reverse isn’t true.

  • Puggg

    Frank Joyce’s theory: Some long mumbo jumbo without rhyme or reason

    Our theory: Black people ruined Detroit because they don’t have the capability to run large complex institutions

    Simple answers are usually more accurate answers.

    • sbuffalonative

      Their theory: when the oppressive, racist white people leave, black communities mysteriously devolve.

      • BonusGift

        Also, it seems to me the movies do seem to enhance the mystery part don’t they? It is kind of reverse science fiction where we end up in a purely black devolutionary place (yes, yes, blacks and devolution are redundant, but bear with me here), call it the ‘do hood’; and just when we begin to ponder how the place got to be such a hellhole along comes one or more magic knee-grows and one or more ‘racist’ whites to provide the canned, yet often unstated, answer. Yes, it is magical and mysterious but in a dystopian hellhole on steroids kind of way. Myself, I just see scores of rather large and prone to violence parasites in need of the gibsmedat fix and it isn’t so mysterious as revolting.

    • Nick A Siggers

      Boiled down to a sentence the story is: All YT’s fault.

    • CoweringCoward

      Occam’s Razor just shreds anti-white propaganda doesn’t it?

  • Rhialto

    “… we will have to rely on ourselves. And more and more, we are doing just that. For those of us who believe the current dominant order is not only not working, but a menace to life on earth…”

    I agree with this statement. The current dominant order is Liberalism, and it is a menace to normal humanity.

    Joyce is a typical specimen of Liberalism.

  • odious liberal

    Incoherent gibberish from another from another liberal buffoon who hides behind the walls of his gated homosexual community.

    • sbuffalonative

      Ever since the Zimmerman verdict, the ‘progressive’ liberal left has been working overtime to counter increasing racial awareness. Their excuses and theories are becoming increasingly brazen and bizarre.

  • ViktorNN

    There are plenty of extremely rich black people in this country. Let’s see them show some racial solidarity and entrepreneurialism and invest in Black America.

    Oh, but they aren’t? It seems like black racial solidarity extends up to the point where it comes to sinking their own money back into their own communities.

    They’d rather hold out their hands for white money and whine about how we owe them. Actually, I guess if we’re honest, using white guilt as a shakedown technique is a group strategy blacks use for their own collective benefit. Why invest in themselves when they can get whitey to do it? The author of this article is either dishonest, clueless, or racist when he fails to acknowledge this dynamic.

    • BonusGift

      It’s really not so much of a group strategy as a group necessity. Blacks as a group have proven over and over and over and over …. again that they are incapable of anything that we would call civilization. Also, blacks just seem to lack any sense of strategy, let alone tactics.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    Well, I didn’t bother trying to read the whole long-winded, tiresome thing. It’s just another lefty tying himself up into knots trying to avoid stating the obvious: Detroit is 90% black. ‘Nuff said.

  • Sloppo

    Blacks destroyed the world’s most prosperous industrial city, and for some reason this fellow thinks white people should feel guilty about it.

    • Rhialto

      It’s a standard PR technique, known as the “Big Lie”.

  • cecilhenry

    Understand people, as long as there are whites around it will always be ‘white racism’

    So we need to ensure that blacks are completely on their own and not having any more opportunities to hang around all those ‘white guys’

  • MBlanc46

    If there had been no restrictive covenants, if the banks had loaned money to blacks, if the FHA had backed black mortgages, Detroit would be in the same position it is today. The only differences would be that more towns would have become poverty-stricken, crime-ridden ghettos, and some banks would be in bankruptcy as well as the city. The majority of blacks in Detroit cannot manage their own lives, to say nothing of managing a city. The only hope for Detroit is to put the white people back in charge.

  • Puggg

    Recently Detroit News Editor Nolan Finley, who has built his career on being the most steadfast and flamboyant carrier of the “white man’s burden,” published a much hyped editorial titled “Can Detroit Govern itself?” You can guess how he answered his own question. And his coded speech is unmistakable. Everyone knows that what Finley really means is can African Americans govern themselves? To which my answer is absolutely, if you and your one-percent pals were capable of allowing such a thing.

    Okay, did the fool who wrote this fall asleep in 1973 Rip Van Winkle style then just wake up oblivious to blacks running everything in Detroit government since then?

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      1% pals like Oprah Winfrey? George Soros? Warren “tax me more” Buffett?

  • Funruffian

    For the first several paragraphs I thought this ass was making headway for a plausible assessment until he brought up White Racism. Always blaming others for your own problems, inadequacies and failures is the mantra of the Black leader and liberal. If we leave a toxic relationship due to our health concerns it is somehow our fault that the abandoned person was a victim due to your leaving.
    He goes on to blame Wall Street and a couple of hints at government corruption, and then abruptly, he claims White racism. Screw this guy and his twisted beliefs.
    Million of dollars get shelled out every year to keep Detoilet functioning and it has always been very dysfunctional since Blacks took majority in the 80’s. if you look at cities like Boise, Idaho, where the White population dominates and the Black population is under 1%, those cities are always in compliance with solvency.

    • Irishgirl

      He hints at government corruption as though the notion of government is corrupt rather than the people in government themselves.

      • BonusGift

        It’s always magic and mystery until we get down to brass tacks: it’s YT’s fault. Even when all the YTs have been robbed, raped, and killed it’s still and will always be YT’s fault. Did little saint Trayvon have a bad at his affirmative action mandated job? YT’s fault. Did little Shitavious lose money playing cards with the ‘bros’, YT’s fault; a run-in with one of his ‘baby mamas’, YT’s fault; black body odor, YT’s fault … YT’s fault is the duct tape of the black community, and any self-loathing treasonous cultural Marxist.

  • BellaCosa

    Anyone who can find out the demographic breakdown of the neighborhood Frank Joyce lives in wins the Internet.

  • Easyrhino1

    Didn’t read this entire wall of words but when I think of the failure of Detroit first comes to mind is:

    The failure of the auto industry. They were number one on the planet for decades and got complacent, lazy and arrogant while the Japanese, Germans and Koreans were producing a better quality product.
    .
    The failure of the auto industry was accelerated by the unions and the ridiculous benefits packages (free medical care for life for him, his family and anyone he ever shook hands with).
    Also, Detroit had all it’s eggs in one basket and when the auto industry tanked so did everything else.
    The icing on the cake of course is the city’s wonderful demographics which by comparison makes Fallujah a nice place for evening stroll.

  • ShermanTMcCoy

    Not white racism. Black incompetency.

  • Texan1st

    Why am I not surprised that this Salon article failed to mention the race riots of the 60’s and former Detroit mayor Coleman Young?

  • CoweringCoward

    No real comment, just wanted to see how my new avatar looked.

    • LIBERTYSINCURSION

      Well now, that’s one hell of an avatar you got there friend.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    “Everyone knows that what Finley really means is can African Americans govern themselves? To which my answer is absolutely…” Frank Joyce

    To which my question is, based upon what? The quality of live always declines for blacks when whites are absent so how can racism by whites possibly be the cause? Black run cities with a black majority population can not possibly be caused to fail by a minority population of whites. Where are these black well governed places that allows some writer like Frank Joyce to hold such a conviction about black ability to govern themselves?

  • exLibtard

    Thank you.

  • LIBERTYSINCURSION

    This guy is so full of his own self righteous, yet completely comical gas, I literally fear for his safety near an open flame. After a full article of doing what blacks do best, blaming other people for their entirely self induced problems. He actually had the unintended comedic genius to close out his article with “For that, we will have to rely on ourselves”. Hmmmm? Relying on ourselves? Oh, you mean the thing every other racial group in America have been doing their entire lives? Yeaaaa! Yippie, Hooray,,,, congratulations black America, welcome to adulthood!

    • Brian

      Comical gas, open flame. Thank you, now I have coffee on my keyboard. ROFLMAO, as the whippersnappers say.

  • gregCall

    The guy that wrote that lives in a fantasy world saying the failure of Detroit isn’t indicative of the inability of black to maintain a decent standard of living because its the fault of evil white racism. I guess the failure of South Africa and Zimbabwe aren’t the fault of the black running those countrys either.

    We all know that we as whites have a secret juju that we won’t let the black in on, which is why we tend to succeed while they almost always fail at any civilized activity. Naturally it couldn’t have anything to do with genetics or IQ not to mention the tendency of blacks not to be able to think ahead or control their baser urges.

  • Earl Turner

    Ok then. Show me ONE black-run majority black city that is thriving and successful and prosperous. Just one.

    • Brian

      I hear Lagos Nigeria is lovely in the au…… screw it, I got nothin!

  • jb

    So when Blacks rioted and burned a city where they had 50% home ownership at the time, that was white peoples fault? Got it.

  • Brian

    Whites get blamed for moving out (white flight), and they get blamed for moving back in (gentrification).

    • Sloppo

      Whites are hated for existing, but they can be excused for that temporarily if they work hard enough to promote white genocide.

  • Brian

    What it was and what it remains, is white racism pure and simple.
    Make no mistake about
    it. The extreme segregation that has long characterized Southeast
    Michigan was anything but accidental.
    To this day, if you buy a suburban house that hasn’t changed hands in a
    long time, the deed may well contain a “restrictive covenant” that
    explicitly prohibits the sale of the house to Negroes.

    So what? There is a chicken and egg situation here. The writer wants to blame YT for trying to keep the blacks at bay, but never thinks to ask why that motivation existed in the first place…possibly for a damned good reason?

    • emiledurk16

      He says that the Negros are quite capable of governing themselves and then blames the lack of such governance on segregation.

      If blacks were supremely qualified at governance why would a lack of white inhabitants matter. According to his warped logic, the lack of whites, with their supposed concomitant racism, should be a boon to the city; freeing blacks to govern with the ability the author thinks they have.

      • Sloppo

        If blacks were capable of governing themselves, I suspect that ability would be detectable in one or more of the 50 or so countries they pretty much exclusively control.

  • Brian

    Everyone knows that what Finley really means is can African Americans
    govern themselves? To which my answer is absolutely, if you and your
    one-percent pals were capable of allowing such a thing.

    Typical. Of course the black man could do a magnificent job at self-governance, despite there being few/no examples of such a thing ever happening, in America, the Caribbean, or Africa. That darn white man always finds some mischevious way to oppress him. If he could just get the YT boot off his neck, I’m sure he would show us all what great things he is capable of… right!

  • Cannot Tell

    Has anyone ever thought about hosting rallies where we can pay people to listen to race realists talk about issues like the demise of Detroit? We could also give away prizes to people who are engaged and ask questions. We could tell them what AmRen is really about instead of letting them learn about the website from propaganda spread by the MSM.

    I’m thinking about doing something like this someday. After I get my masters I’ll probably make over $75,000 so I’ll have a lot of money to devote to worthy causes like white nationalism.

    • Brian

      Make sure to save some $ to raise the next gen of white kids! That in itself is a major contribution.

  • Brian

    Are you talking about old Maladroit Jenkins? That no ‘count scoundrel is always making me stub my toe. 😉 (Sorry, that just sounds like an Ebonics name).

  • Evette Coutier

    What this fool fails to see is that no one cares about Detroit except Detroiters. Until Detroiters take responsibility for their city, nothing will improve. Blaming whites will not correct the problem. What kills black communities more than any other factor is a complete disregard for personal responsibility.

  • SFLBIB

    “…the sound of wailing recently heard about the possible sale of artworks from the Detroit Institute of Art (DIA)…”

    The same wailing from Detroit politicians was heard at the suggestion that Belle Isle be sold to developers made in Stossell’s story about Detroit’s woes several weeks ago, in addition to the sale of its art collection. “They belong to ‘the people'” was the common cry. My conclusion from the wailing is that Detroiters want to ride in a Cadillac when they go to the poorhouse.

  • 1XXX

    How can Frank Joyce’s dilemma be understood?

    Yes, I have it: Nobody wants to live around [email protected]@ers.

    Not even those blacks that are nominally more intelligent than your average negro.

    There…easily explained. Even a “Black Studies” major can understand it.

  • Seminumerical

    MAKE SOME NOISE: Get thee to the original article, thence to the comment section. Login with a Google account or Facebook. Then click *like* on a few comments that you like. That will teach the author that he is regarded as an ass.

    I expect each and every Amrener to do his duty. Ten *likes* each. I don’t recommend commenting. There is enough said already to agree with.

    At the moment good comments have about 2 or 3 likes. Take that as the baseline.

  • Kit Ingoldby

    So, charging more for car insurance in high crime areas is ‘red lining’ and ‘racism’.

    Lending money to blacks is ‘racism’, not lending money to blacks is ‘racism’.

    Not ‘pooling’ your money with poor blacks is ‘racism’.

    Reporting on black crime is ‘racism’.

    Anyone moving away from areas of high crime is ‘racism’.

    Everything is ‘racism’. All problems blacks have are caused by ‘racism’. Whites need to ‘acknowledge’ their guilt and forever pay all the bills.

    Glad to get that clear.

  • Irishgirl

    Change “for” to “by” and he’s right on the money.

  • Irishgirl

    He took a massive overdose of stupidity.

  • Jenkem Huffington

    Cliff notes:
    YT’s fault.

  • WR_the_realist

    In that context, what the MSM is mostly missing is the extent to which bankruptcy is but the latest incremental step in a long running destruction of democracy for African-Americans. As of this writing more than 55% of Michigan’s African American population lives in communities under some form of Emergency Management. That means state government has already taken away the authority of locally elected officials. Bankruptcy just moves that disenfranchisement to the federal level.

    I don’t know the details of all those Emergency Management cases but I’m confident that in every case the people elected and appointed by the black population failed miserably to meet a budget or provide the required services.

    Come to Detroit where the “state” has truly withered away, or been drowned in the bathtub. Take your pick.

    The ‘state’ only withered away after it had spend everybody’s money twice over, without delivering essential services. Black governments are real good at doing that.

    Illustrating the theory that the exception proves the rule, the sound of wailing recently heard about the possible sale of artworks from the Detroit Institute of Art (DIA) is an example of one Detroit asset suburbanites care about that they did not get around to protecting or relocating.

    Actually, the sale of the artworks can only be a good thing. They are much more likely to wind up in a place where people actually appreciate them.

    For most residents, life is difficult at best. Exhibit A would be the impact of fourteen years of control of Detroit Public Schools by the state government in Lansing. The results have been disastrous, despite the best efforts of Detroit’s teachers who give new meaning to the term public servants.

    Neither teachers nor state government can ever salvage Detroit’s schools, because they are stuck with educating Detroit’s children.

    The debt accumulated with the aggressive help of Wall Street over the decades is staggering.

    Sure, Wall Street never misses an opportunity to collect underwriting fees. But really, who wanted to sell all that debt in the first place? Who wanted to keep spending far more money than tax revenues could support? Black politicians, voted for by the black electorate.

    Imprisoned former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick provides the best and most well known target of all. But what most whites don’t know or won’t admit is that he was well on his way to being defeated for reelection until a cadre of white businessmen with major interests in the city came up with hundreds of thousands of dollars in 11th hour campaign funds.

    Kwame Kilpatrick got elected in the first place in the usual Detroit fashion — by promising to be blacker than his opponents. I am certain those white businessmen didn’t have any great enthusiasm for the man. No doubt what happened is what happens in other corrupt cities — the manufacturer was informed that a safety inspection was coming up, but a modest donation would no doubt ensure that everything would be fine. In a similar way the restaurant owner is informed that a health inspection is due. Every businessman knows there are a thousand ways for the city to make his life impossible, but a few well targeted donations can work miracles. So yeah, blame the white guys trying to earn a living for doing what they had to do under the corruption of Detroit’s black government.

    Nearby Macomb County is predominately working class and the “birthplace” of “Reagan Democrats”.

    There’s nothing quite like living in close proximity to large numbers of the the Democrats’ favorite minority to make a working class white man vote Republican. Unfortunately for both the white working class and the Republican Party, the Republicans never actually did anything for the white working class. If they had, the Republicans would be the dominant party now. But the Republicans blew it, and the white working class has nowhere to go.

    By 1980, African Americans out numbered whites within the city limits of Detroit. Yes, capital started leaving Detroit in the 1940’s. But the population disinvestment is just as important. Make no mistake about it. The extreme segregation that has long characterized Southeast Michigan was anything but accidental.

    Suppose a bunch of Chinese had moved into Detroit and then nearly all the white people left. Does anybody think that Detroit would be the disaster it is now? Would crime be rampant? Would the schools be useless? Would no one have created new businesses to replace the ones that had been lost? So yes, race has everything to do with what went wrong in Detroit. Not white racism, but black criminality and incompetence.

  • benvad

    Frank Joyce should put his money & values where his mouth is, and live with the Blacks. Quit preaching and actually do what you advocate.

    I don’t want to live with those people and their culture. I want segregation, I wish we could deport them all to Africa, along with other 3rd worlders.