Immigration Reform Falls to the Back of the Line

Michael D. Shear and Julia Preston, New York Times, September 9, 2013

Congress is likely to postpone consideration of an immigration overhaul until the end of the year, if not longer, even as advocates are preparing for an all-out, urgent push this fall to win their longstanding goal of a path to citizenship for millions of immigrants here illegally.

In Washington, the sudden debate over military action in Syria and a looming face-off with President Obama over the budget and the nation’s borrowing limit have shot to the top of the legislative agenda, while Republican angst about losing Hispanic voters in the 2012 presidential campaign has faded.

In the House, where many Republicans view an overhaul bill passed by the Senate as a federal juggernaut that is too kind to immigrant lawbreakers, the legislative summer recess has done little to stoke enthusiasm for immediate action. Senior Republican aides in the House say immigration is at the back of the line, and unlikely to come up for months.

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Throughout August, immigration groups organized hundreds of visits to Congressional offices, town hall-style meetings, vigils, marches and rallies, creating a constant buzz in the districts of many House lawmakers, particularly Republicans. On Wednesday, advocates delivered 600,000 petitions to the West Chester, Ohio, offices of Speaker John A. Boehner the old-fashioned way, in dozens of stacks of signed papers. On Sunday, Catholic priests around the country preached for a comprehensive immigration overhaul.

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The gulf between the expectations of advocates and the reality they face in Washington is widening every day. As they feel momentum slipping away, their anger is likely to intensify this fall.

And time is not on their side. In June, the Senate passed a bipartisan plan to overhaul border security and grant illegal immigrants a chance to earn citizenship. If the House does not take up the immigration issue until 2014, members will face the prospect of voting on a highly contentious issue in the middle of a Congressional election year.

Republican primaries will begin in the spring, and many lawmakers may be reluctant to overhaul the immigration system just before facing their conservative constituents. If Congress does not complete action early next year, Congressional aides said, the issue could be delayed until after the November elections.

But leaders of groups supporting an immigration overhaul say they do not plan to let up.

The organizations plan a mobilization in early October, with rallies in at least 40 cities on Oct. 5 followed by a march and rally in Washington on Oct. 8. Convinced that a majority exists in the House for the legislation, they will press for Mr. Boehner to allow a vote before the end of the year. Leaders said the Syria debate and the fiscal fight should not become “excuses” to set aside immigration.

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  • [Guest]

    The will of those in power is and has been to keep the U.S. borderless. They’ve always won and they’ll win again. It’s just a matter of time.

    • jackryanvb

      So you give up. Fine. Please don’t make any more comments on Amren.

      • [Guest]

        >>>So you give up. Fine. Please don’t make any more comments on Amren.

        I’ll comment as often as I wish and say whatever I please (within the bounds of what the moderators allow), even when it’s the filthy truth.

        Seriously, though, the borders are wide open and have been for decades. It’s not a matter of whether individuals who believe in national sovereignty give up. We lost decades ago, and things have only gotten worse. There is no sign of a turnaround.

        Saying “Secure the borders!” is like opposing two men marrying. It’s a traditional, sensible, popular position that is nonetheless hopelessly outdated.

  • Jesse James

    Nothing has changed, they will just line the next amnesty deal up on the QT and then try to stealth pass it just before the Christmas break. Right now they are working to bribe our congressmen to switch sides and keep mum until they actually vote it through. Those of us who oppose this and other aspects of the globalist progressive agenda have to stop every attempt – they only have to sneak a bill through once. Think Obama care is a fiasco? Wait till the next amnesty throws tens of millions more tax consumers into the pig pen.

    • jackryanvb

      Too negative. We just won a great immigration election in Australia . And we’re beating back another immigration amnesty here in the USA. With some hard work we can take down immigration traitors Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, maybe Rubio. Stay strong.

      • IstvanIN

        You won a battle not the war. Until you return to the white Australia policy you are still in danger.

      • Puggg

        We’ll see about that one, and we’re talking about that Tony Abbott. He just might be one of those big talkers during election time but open borders while governing.

        • Oil Can Harry

          Sacre bleu! Why do you talk about me, Monsieur Pugg?
          Sincerely, Nick Sarkozy

          • Sick of it

            The name made me instantly skeptical of Mr. Sarkozy, being as that is not a French name and an immigrant will often side with immigrants over the local population. Good common sense.

      • sbuffalonative

        I appreciate your efforts and your optimism. In every online discussion I have been on, I have posted this easy to remember statement:

        AMNESTY IS NOT IMMIGRATION REFORM.

        As hard as we try, their are forces that want amnesty to happen. Both business and labor are pushing this. How often do those two groups work together for the same outcome?

        They will try and try again. I suspect there will be a compromise. How tough will our side be? What is the best we can hope for?

    • John Smith

      I would love for minutes of these pro-amnesty meetings to be released. How can there be even one politician in favor of amnesty for these parasites and predators?

      Why is it racist for whites to object to pregnant women from third world countries giving birth in the United States at taxpayer expense?…and granting citizenship to newborns?

      Why are ONLY white countries “expected” to subsidize these insane immigration policies? Could countries like China, Taiwan and Japan be convinced to subsidize mass immigration from third world countries like Pakistan, Iraq, Mexico, and Haiti?…and to celebrate so called “diveristy”?

      If uneducated, unskilled, poor, violent, illiterate and disease carrying whites moved to non-White countries and demanded English only classes, subsidized food, housing and medical care while constantly making inflammatory complaints about racism, these Whites would be slaughtered w/o apology.

      • borogirl54

        Japan tolerates what it needs. Right they have a sizable Filipino and Indonesian workforce that do the jobs that Mexicans normally do. In order to stop the glut of foreign nurses, they had to pass a Japanese language test that was about nursing and the use of Japanese medical terminology. A very small percentage of the foreign workers passed this test.

      • John Smith

        Quit using my name Guest.

  • Thank you, Republican Party! What did the democrats offer? Worse, did they catch you in bed with a male prostitute, or wearing women’s clothes?
    Still, you RINOs have little to worry about. Your base is so gullible, they will still vote for you at reelection time.

    • Spartacus

      There is no difference between Republicans and Democrats… Good God man, I live on another continent, and I still figured it out !

      • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

        There is very real difference between the Stupid Party and the Evil Party. As Sam Francis is supposed to have said, I’m a proud member of the Stupid Party.

        • Spartacus

          No… The party you’re a member of is merely the “Evil-pretending-to-be-stupid” party. The party that wants to make you think you still have a “democratic” option .

          • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

            The demographics of the Stupid Party are very different from the demographics of the the Evil Party, Spartacus. The Stupid Party hates that. But it’s reality and they dare not forget it — which is why your contention that “There is no difference between Republicans and Democrats” is nonsense.

          • Spartacus

            Did the Stupid Party do anything about the mestizos jumping the fence when it was in power ? No, it didn’t. It was too busy fighting wars for Israhell . This is why I say there’s no difference, because they do the same thing the Evil Party does.

          • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

            At the presidential level, I will grant your contention that there is little difference between the two major parties. Eisenhower was the last good Stupid Party president on immigration. Open primaries and establishment influence in the presidential primaries has produced a long line of weak Stupid Party candidates on immigration. But the Stupid Party presidential candidates — moderates selected for presumed cross-over appeal — are not the Stupid Party base, the rank and file.

            The Stupid Party rank and file is very different from the Evil Party rank and file. There is where your contention, on close examination, collapses.

          • Spartacus

            But the results are not that different ! The Stupid Party is doing the same thing as the Evil Party, only slower !

          • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

            The extra time is valuable, as it affords opportunities, chances to respond to changed circumstances, opportunities, hope. I’d choose a slow descent into the abyss over a head-long plunge any day. I’ll stick with the Stupid Party.

          • Sick of it

            I call it socialist lite.

          • Charles Lufkin

            How would you suggest racially conscious Whites vote?

          • Augur Mayson

            Both the GOP and the Dems are in bed with AIPAC, Israel and they have no problem signing away our freedoms just to help IAI sell more drones, and no problem sending Americans off to die in wars that help Israel form Greater Israel.

            It’s like a sock puppet show for the masses, American politics. The left and right, the (D)s and (R)s are really just doing theatre. The big decisions, whether the country goes to war, covering up the real reasons we go to war, covering up for the CIA in Benghazi, for their drug smuggling in Afghanistan, covering up for Israel over the U.S.S. Liberty, rubberstamping a ridiculous Warren Report, doing the same with the 9-11 report, the list goes on and on.

            So I don’t think any racially conscious White could stomach voting for a major party candidate at all.

            I would consider any vote or candidate advocacy for a major party candidate, sure to rubberstamp the foreign wars and the massive deficit spending, is a vote against your country’s best interests.

          • Mergatroyd

            Careful, comrade. You’re speaking the must-not-be-told truth here and that’s likely to get you in trouble for thought crimes.

            PS: Add the Lavon Affair to Israel’s crimes against the U.S.

          • Sick of it

            We also conveniently overlook the sex slave trade run through Israel.

          • Spartacus

            At least 6000 eastern-European girls per year go to Israhell as sex-slaves…

          • Spartacus

            I would suggest stop voting altogether, and start making plans for secession .

          • Charles Lufkin

            The GOP is the White Party(over 90% of its voters).In virtually every vote on immigration–state or federal about 80% of Republican vote for limitations on immigration and well over 80% of Democrats vote for a liberal immigration policy(Alabama,Arizona,etc).To say there is no difference between the parties on this issue is plain wrong and uninformed.The Arizona vote on the popular SB 1070, EVERY Democrat voted against this great legislation.Only a handful of Republican voted against it.I fail to understand how anyone can say with a straight face there is no difference in the parties positions on immigration.

          • Spartacus

            Securing the border and deporting the ones already there is what needs to be done. Since none of the 2 parties have done anything in this regard, then there are no major differences between them .

          • Sick of it

            Which means we should relabel them the Evil Party and the SCARED Party. Too scared to do anything useful.

          • Sick of it

            The Party leadership, donors, and policy groups of both parties agree with one another. The base may not (of course all of the pro-RINO pseudo-conservatives in the Republican Party make me wonder about that as well).

          • Whitetrashgang

            You still get the same result, so it doesn’t matter.

    • Sick of it

      The guys on board with this didn’t care much for America to begin with. But you can tell that from almost every vote they cast in Congress.

  • jackryanvb

    Thanks to everyone here who beat back this amnesty treason. I certainly did my part.

    • Spartacus

      You only ran a meter in a 100.000 KM race.

    • I don’t think we’re done. I’m about 60% of the way through with my calling every member of Congress on immigration. Yes, Syria is on the front burner now, and no, we shouldn’t go into Syria. But immigration is more important. So I’m going to keep on keeping on.

      Re Australia above, remember that Tony Abbott, while he was Attorney General in a John Howard government, tried to railroad Pauline Hanson into prison. Yes, I’m happy that Australian voters got a choice on immigration issues, but I’m not expecting Abbott to follow through. Also remember that Abbott made a big deal of the boat people, when far far far many more immigrants into Australia are legal immigrant Asians.

      • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

        Bravo for such activism. Makes my many letters in NC papers seem paltry. Care to share some talking points you use with representatives who do not represent your district?

        • I pretend to be someone from their district. And my talking point is courteous, politely voicing my opposition to amnesty and open borders, if the politician is a liberal Democrat, pointing out how it will lower wages and hurt unions and working class people, if a black liberal Democrat (*), I’ll say that it hurts black workers, if the politician is a Republican who has already come out against it, I will thank him or her for their position, if it’s a wavering Republican, point out that Hispanics and most other non-white mass immigrant groups don’t vote Republican.

          The main national switchboard is so busy so often that I make my calls to their local district offices. I generally do four or five a day.

          (*) – When calling a black member of Congress, I’ll do so on my regular land line phone, because I have a doodad which only works on regular land line phones that can alter your outgoing voice, it can let you sound very masculine or very feminine or many points in between. I’ll switch the doodad to very masculine and talk sort of ebonics-ey.

          • jackryanvb

            QD you are a noble man! And you actually do hard, effective activism. Way to go.

          • Sometimes a bit of devious activism. Though that doesn’t bother me at all; the stakes are too high.

            And I’m taking good care of my voice alteration doodad. The one I bought a number of years back works very well, but I’ve never seen any new ones available. And I have not yet seen or heard of cell phone software apps which could do the same, and I don’t imagine that such apps would be hard to write.

          • MBlanc46

            I hope that it does some good. But if it’s a choice between listening to you and to someone who’s made a five-figure contribution, there’s little doubt who will get the attention.

          • Born in the day I was but not yesterday.

            Me versus a hundred grand in the can from Zuck, yes, they won’t pay attention to me. But ten thousand crucial swing votes in the district versus the same amount of money, and yeah, the money won’t be that important anymore.

          • MBlanc46

            And maybe that happens once in awhile, but not very often. And even when it does, it’s only one district for one election. The entire system needs to be challenged, and you don’t do that by participating in it.

          • Mergatroyd

            The entire system needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up to work in the interests of Americans, not Israel:

            Pat Buchanan noted years ago,”Congress is Israeli occupied territory

          • Mergatroyd

            Or pols whom AIPAC control. Go against them and you’ll ‘suddenly’ find your rivals war chest overflowing with filthy lucre and a smear campaign directed at you by every major media in the country.Follow the money and the power.

            As Michael Savage said the other day on his radio show: “I’m sick of this slavish worship of Israel. No, it’s America first and Israel’s the tail, not the dog. We’re the dog, they’re the tail. And I’m sick and tired of America being yanked around like we’re the tail and they’re the dog…..Whoever put him (Obama) in power wants their payback.”

          • Sick of it

            I feel the same way as Mr. Savage on this issue. At the most basic level, our interests should come first, not any other nation’s interests.

            Some guy argued on another board that we should stay allied with Saudi Arabia because of power politics in the region. My first thought was that he was nuts, as he acknowledged they created the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            We’re already “allied” with them — we are supplying military weaponry to the terrorists fighting the Assad regime in Syria.

    • Oil Can Harry

      It’s only a temporary victory but still good news.

      BTW did you notice the headline about how the illegals “Fall To The Back Of The Line”? Serves them right for cutting the line.

      • So CAL Snowman

        They shouldn’t even be in line, unless it’s a line leading straight back to mexico, honduras, india, saudia arabia, vietnam, etc.

    • So CAL Snowman

      You really think that WE had anything to do with this? Come on! The immigration debate was obviously just another way to inflame the already simmering coals of race relations in this country and to serve as yet another distraction while they decide which orifice of ours to fleece next. As a bonus it also served notice to all of the mexicans and central americans to flood the border in anticipation of amnesty. I know here in California that contacting senators Feinstein and Boxer did wonders for the cause.

      • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

        Feinstein and Boxer are Democratic senators doing what Democratic senators (all 54 in the U. S. Senate) do. The drama is in the GOP-led House.

  • Spartacus

    You know… Maybe I should immigrate illegally to the US. I might be president within 20 years… And anyone who says otherwise is a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews !!!

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    The GOP in the House — even more so than the GOP in the Senate who have 6-year terms — are capable of running mental cost/benefit analyses on the immigration issue.

    The political costs of any kind of “immigration reform” are greater than the benefit of pleasing GOP Big Donors, the media and the Hispanic lobby.

    • If we win this, this is how we’re going to win it, by demonstrating that there are ballot box consequences to immigration treason, and that all the consultant class barnacle class EL CHEAPO labor lobby money in the world won’t fix it.

      • MBlanc46

        Except, whom do you vote for? The Dems support never-ending Mexicans (and Pakis and Indians and Chinese). The majority of the Repubs oppose an amnesty (apparently), but they never do anything about the stream of never-ending Mexicans (etc.). When it’s the elites versus the mass of the American people, the elites will almost always control the elections.

        • QuinnTheEskimo9

          Both parties also support endless wars in the ME, against the wishes of the American people:

          Republicans, House SpeakerJohn Boehner John McCain, Lindsay Graham

          Democrats: Obama, John Kerry, who ran for president on an anti-war platform and said Obama doesn’t need a vote congress to set in motion a strike.

          Problem is: we have no one who stands up for the interests of white Americans.

          • MBlanc46

            The breakup of the two-party system has to be a long-term goal. In the shorter term, we need to build single-issue (black violence, immigration) coalitions.

  • Dave4088

    In the meantime, Mexico and central America will keep coming in anticipation of amnesty. Since most deportations have now been halted by DHS on orders from Obozo, it’s really a win-win for the illegals to come here and take their chances.

    • MBlanc46

      And they’ve been coming here for decades without an amnesty. They win. The corporations that employ them win. The only losers are native-born Americans.

  • Rick Brooks

    Thank God for Syria! As long as not a single white American life is lost or injured in that craphole..

  • WR_the_realist

    Watch congress very carefully at the end of the year. This horrid immigration bill is precisely the sort of thing they like to pass just before Christmas when nobody is paying any attention.

    • Sick of it

      The problem is that they’re pushing things so game-changing that people aren’t quietly going back to sleep as usual.

  • White Mom in WDC

    By not making a decision about amnesty, a decision was made. These illegals are here and they will only leave when things are no longer good for them. They are essentially squatters in our home. So we make the home uncomfortable for them. We do not patronize their businesses. We start our own small businesses and economies. We have as many kids as possible to suck the system dry of resources that would go to their ungrateful brats. We ignore them. We turn off the TV and radio. We patronize only our people’s businesses. Stop being nice white people! You don’t have to be nice!

    • Sick of it

      I essentially stopped watching t.v. years ago. Mindless drivel today for the most part.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        And, it just got a whole lot worse…

        Americans Being Forced to Pay for Al Jazeera

        Two weeks ago, Al Jazeera America launched, beaming into 48 million homes across the country…The network pushed its way onto basic cable packages with several providers. If you subscribe to Verizon, Comcast, Dish Network or DirecTV, you are forced to subsidize Al Jazeera’s propaganda as part of your cable bill whether you like it or not.

        http://www dot americanthinker dot com/2013/09/americans_being_forced_to_pay_for_al_jazeera dot html#ixzz2eSG4k2rB

        Not only Al Jazeera but the vile MTV, BET, Univision, and in California, a lot of Armenian and Asian channels. All part of the bundle — they’d go off the air overnight if a la carte choices were offered.

        But…

        don’t expect THIS to go anywhere, though — about the only decent thing McCain has done:

        McCain bill would create ‘a la carte’ cable pricing:

        May, 2013:

        Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., has jump-started a new national conversation with a bill he introduced in Congress this month that would use regulatory incentives to encourage programmers and distributors to unbundle their channels and offer a la carte programming.

        McCain immediately picked up support from watchdog groups such as the Consumers Union and others who see his legislation as a way to shake up the status quo while technological innovations such as Internet TV break into the mainstream video market.

        Bon

        • This is precisely why we will never subscribe to cable unless and until a la carte service is offered.

  • IstvanIN

    We need an immigration moratorium.

    • Mergatroyd

      We need zero immigration from the third world. South African whites should be admitted immediately as refugees with the same full benefits as those given to Somalis and other Bantus.

  • Sick of it

    This really is becoming like the French Revolution, complete with foreigners swarming lawmakers in mobs and demanding rights of a government not their own.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    The alliance reported that 25 House Republicans had come out in favor of an overhaul including legalization during the recess.

    Don’t be fooled or let your guard down. I don’t trust a single one of these GOP idiots. They’ll delay it and pass it when we’re looking the other way, maybe late on Christmas Eve or 2 AM on a Friday.

    After the mid-term elections, watch for Boehner the House Crier to toss aside the Hastert Rule.

    Bon

  • mobilebay

    Meanwhile, they’ll continue to come, occupying and colonizing our country while Washington closes its eyes and hands us over to anyone who walks in. Every other event is a cover up to distract us while we sink lower into third world status.

  • ralphie44

    google Pro-Israel groups in United States scramble to save Syria strike resolution
    google joel stein hollywood cmon
    google times israel jews media do
    it will be the very first results listed, mainstream, from jews.
    Here is the last bit of the Joel Stein article;”But I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.”

    There is who sets your worldview, left or right.
    The buck stops with who runs the country.
    Thats who runs the country.

    google steven steinlight mexican immigration holocaust
    here is a synopsis “we jews have worked for generations on pushing immigration onto the host population of america, and now i am worried because mexicans havent had enough holocrock propaganda drilled into their heads to ensure they remain cattle like the rest of the population”

  • mobilebay

    Immigration Reform – Never!
    Immigration Enforcement – Now!

    • jackryanvb

      Not bad. But I think this is better:

      Birth control Si!
      Illegal alien amnesty no!

  • Bud Smith

    All the anti-white rulers have to do is increase the quota for legal immigrants and not bother with immigration reform. Most Americans parrot “We’re all for legal immigration, just not illegal immigration. Obey the laws and you’re welcome here”. The end result will be a non-white majority within 20 years no matter what.

  • Earl Turner

    The Democrats want more third-world muds because that means more Democrat votes and more weaponized diversity deployed against Whites. The Republicrats want more third-world muds because they want the cheap labor.

    If Whites had our own country, this would not be an issue.

  • Greg Thomas

    “Immigration reform” needs to fall off a cliff, along with the traitors pushing it.