Demographics? Guns? Southern Culture? Reasons for Regional Homicide Variations Remain Elusive

Brendan Kirby, AL, September 20, 2013

Alabama recorded 325 homicides last year. If it had the same murder rate as New York City, though, that number would have been only about 240.

It is a reminder that even as the latest FBI crime report released this week shows killings remain near a multi-decade low, stark differences remain from region to region and city to city.

The South remains the country’s deadliest region, with a 2012 homicide rate of about 5.5 killings for every 100,000 residents. At 6.7 homicides for every 100,000 residents, Alabama’s rate is higher–even after accounting for an error in the FBI statistics pointed out by state officials.

Among cities with at least 100,000 residents, Birmingham ranked No. 9 last year, according to the FBI data. That is higher even than Chicago, a city that has gained a great deal of attention as a place with an out-of-control murder problem.

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Identifying the reasons certain places see murders more frequently than others–and devising strategies for combating the bloodshed–have proven elusive.

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James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University in Boston, said the most murderous cities and states tend to have higher concentrations of black residents, who on average are six times more likely to be involved in murders.

“There are certainly patterns there,” he said.

But Fox cautioned that race often masks deeper socioeconomic factors, such as poverty, unemployment and low levels of education.

“Demographics is a big part of it, but it’s not the whole story,” he said. “Of course, it’s not race, itself. There’s a whole array of economic issues. . . . It looks like demographics, but it’s really socioeconomic issues.”

Fox noted that in one study he conducted examining crime data, the gap between whites and blacks largely disappeared when he controlled for murder defendants who grew up in one-parent families.

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One of the more controversial theories over the years is a so-called “subculture of violence” in the South, with its roots in the Civil War.

“The South has always led the way in violence, as far as homicides,” said Costanza, the acting director of the University of South Alabama’s Center for Public Policy.

Costanza said noted criminologist Marvin Wolfgang first advanced the theory in 1967.

“History has a lot to do with it, probably more to do with it than we think,” he said. “Most Southerners, I think, would probably shrug this off.”

Another possible explanation for the chronically higher murder rate in the South is the region’s greater concentration of guns.

“I’m kind of partial to guns myself, or at least gun rights,” Costanza said. “But one possibility is we’ve always had a gun culture.”

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  • They got the right answer the first time they said “black.” They should have stopped while they were ahead.

    • So CAL Snowman

      The best part is that immediately after mentioning the words black and race they follow that up with the whole “socioeconomic” canard, every single time. It’s almost as if being black and having “socioeconomic” issues are somehow correlated.

      • They’re conveniently ignoring the fact that poor Appalachian whites have nothing like this murder rate.

        As far as being black and having “socioeconomic” issues are concerned, I think we can go well past correlation and state that the relationship is causal.

        • Mike Conrad

          And El Paso is one of the poorest cities in the nation. Even with Mexican drug violence all around it, it’s never been a contender for Murder Capital.

          • YngveKlezmer

            Because there are few Blacks. These are poor Mexicans. Violent crime rates amongst Hispanics are higher than for Whites, and a Hispanic Barrio is no place for a White person. A Hispanic Barrio is FAR safer, though, than any Black neighborhood, and this even holds true comparing the poorest Barrio to a middle class or wealthy Black enclave. The Negro race is a violent, cruel race by their very nature, and nothing we do is ever going to change this. This is their way, their basic, in-born temperament. This is why even poor Hispanics have grown to detest Negroes. Negroes bring this upon themselves by their hateful behaviors.

        • Natassia

          West Virginia comes to mind.

          • YngveKlezmer

            Lowest violent crime rate in the nation, but the lowest income of all 50 states. Libtards don’t want to accept such realities. A Southern, Anglo-Celtic, rural, gun owning society. Safest place in America.

          • Natassia

            But WV has its own issues–namely one of the highest states in obesity and unwed motherhood among whites.

          • YngveKlezmer

            You are correct, Natassia, about there being problems in West Virginia these days, as in many poor White areas of our land. As far these problems, though, we need to name the root of the problem, and name the Negro. Unwed motherhood increases amongst impressionable Whites stems directly from the influence of Black culture on poor Whites. If a poor White person is hooked on television these days, and fails to recognize and reject the glorification of Black culture and its’ trappings, what ensues should not surprise us. Blacks have a culture which glorifies fornication/recreational sex, Men using Women for sex, and drug use. The vast majority of Blacks have dysfunctional gender relations with the opposite sex, and horrible attitudes towards the opposite sex. They hate the opposite sex until and when they become horny, at which point the opposite sex is used for personal gratification. Most Blacks have no idea what Love is. The glorification of their inferior, predatorial culture by our media is the primary cause of problems of which you speak in places like West Virginia. Being a Southern Gentleman is not something which exists in the Black culture. A media which glorifies the inferior culture of the most inferior race of humans, the Negro, is to blame for the emerging culture of Meth Labs, unwed mothers and rap music listening meth dealers in parts of White rural America. These are the results of an America ruled by a Negro Muslim instead of an America ruled by Gentleman elder statesman. In an America with a man like Jared Taylor or Merlin Miller at the helm, Whites as a group would begin to reclaim some of our former pride.

          • Natassia

            You are blaming blacks for the fact that white girls can’t keep their legs closed? Oh please. The state of WV is disproportionately white as are the babies born there. The unwed motherhood and teen pregnancy phenomenon is a result of low IQ and low impulse control, and among WV whites there is a high incidence of both,

          • YngveKlezmer

            The influence of Black culture on White youth culture has been the number one reason for the acceptance of fornication and recreational sex as okay amongst so many Whites. This began with Elvis/Rock n’ Roll, and went from there. Remember, older generations felt strongly about Rock n’ Roll being The Devil’s music specifically due to this issue of loose sexual morality being promoted and condoned by a Rock n’ Roll culture. Rock n’ Roll culture and lifestyle was seen as Black culture being embraced by young Whites, because that it exactly what was happening. Let us not leave out drugs. Sex, drugs, and Rock n’ Roll. Did Rock n’ Roll culture encourage sexual promiscuity and drug use amongst young Baby Boomers?? I know that you know the correct answer to this.
            Let us take this a step further, and pinpoint the boogeyman. Integration. A heavy-handed Northern government was forcing integration on the South, and the Northern liberal media was doing everything to encourage racial integration between Whites and Blacks. Older folks did not buy this load of poppycock, and knew that integration would destroy the very bedrock upon which our European American culture is built. It was the youth, naïve as youth frequently are, who refused to listen to their elders, as youth frequently do, who bought the media propaganda lie that racial integration would make the world a better place. The old folks already knew better. Diversity does not work, especially when it is between different races of humans. Negroes, as a race, are not meant to live amongst Whites. Thomas Jefferson believed this, as did Abraham Lincoln.
            Whites with poor impulse control and lower IQ are those that most need to be segregated from Blacks, and most need to hear a racial realist message from the media. In the old days, this is what these folks heard. They did not copy Black behaviors, because those who told them what to think told them not to copy Black behaviors. If you have read crime stats or ever spoke with members of the older, pre-Civil Rights and Rock n’ Roll Generations, you know that having strong morals was no myth in the old days. Whites didn’t go around talking about becoming saved or finding Christ, as Christian morals were the norm in the White community. Sure, there were folks who fornicated or slept around, but this was looked down upon, and, as such, was the exception, not the norm. That this kind of immorality was the norm amongst Blacks was well known amongst Southern Whites, and reinforced beliefs in the inferiority of the Negro race. This is why, back then, teen pregnancy was not the norm, and why drug addiction was also not the norm. White youth were held to the standard of European culture, not allowed and encouraged to sink to the level of the inferior Negro culture.

          • Natassia

            Again, you are blaming blacks for the choices white people have made. I am just not buying it.

          • YngveKlezmer

            I am indeed blaming Blacks. Not for the choices, but for being the source of the degradation of our European American culture. The liberal media has held up their morally degenerate culture as something Whites should emulate. The Black culture has been the roots of the tree, if you will, and the liberal media the rain that causes growth. Before the Civil Rights Era, Whites did not water or fertilize the tree of Black culture. The tree was there, watered and fertilized only by Blacks, so it was overshadowed by the stronger trees in the forest of culture.
            As far as choices are concerned, I have heard this argument used many times for many things. Do I make a choice not to be influenced by the negative Black culture, as was the norm years ago for Whites? Most definitely. That the weaker minded fail to make the choice I make, though, in no way excuses what happens these days. My point was that, in the old days, before the Afrocentric media propaganda machine started rolling, weak willed Whites were not being tempted to emulate Blacks. If you want to excuse the Black culture for being degenerate, and excuse the Liberal media propaganda machine for encouraging the weak willed to emulate this degeneracy, you might as well excuse drug dealers for their actions, and defend them as simple business people, and excuse billboards encouraging folks to stop at adult bookstores on the interstate. The weak willed who give into temptation have made a bad choice, of course, but in a good and benevolent society, the strong and influential should have the moral decency to protect the weak. As such, the strong and influential abide by a moral code, and do not prey on people’s weaknesses or naivete.
            Just as a drug dealer or pornography store preys upon the weak, the Liberal media preys upon the weak. People who truly care about the welfare of others do not excuse this kind of predatorial behavior by placing the blame on the weak willed who have been misled by the predators on those who have been misled. According to your choices argument, drug dealers are not to be blamed for preying on the weak willed, nor are pornographers. You are placing the blame squarely on the weak willed who get misled by evil predators.

          • Natassia

            This still doesn’t explain why a disproportionately white state like West Virginia (with relatively few blacks except in a few select cities, like Charleston and Martinsburg) is so bad. West Virginia gets “awards” in bad public education, no jobs, poverty, obesity, unwed motherhood, including teen pregnancy. They are worse than Virginia which has far more blacks, proportionately speaking.

          • YngveKlezmer

            The more easily led and less intelligent Whites out there, not just in West Virginia but all across America, have absorbed certain degrees of Black culture. They have done so because the Liberal media has encouraged them to do so. Years ago, our leaders and the media encouraged them to do the opposite. I think that the part you don’t want to accept is that this culture of fornication/casual sex and drug use was always there with the Blacks, but was not socially acceptable amongst Whites until the Rock n Roll/Civil Rights Era. Beginning at this point, Black behaviors were glorified, not looked down upon by the media. I think that you understand my point with this exactly. You just disagree. You don’t want to recognize the source of the degeneration of our American culture as being the Black culture. I am not afraid to name the Negro here, as this is American Renaissance, a refuge and sanctuary for racial realism in a world gone mad with Left Wing egalitarianism.

          • Natassia

            Okay so the problem here is the disproportionate amount of foolishness among WV whites. Black culture has been glorified because white people have CHOSEN to glorify it. And the reason they glofify that culture is because their own has been so successfully emasculated and destroyed thanks to….WHITE elites (ie politicians, academia, etc.) White culture is now a groveling, sodomy-worshipping, shallow mess…and it is all OUR FAULT.

          • YngveKlezmerRebel

            The Whites who have chosen to glorify and promote the degenerate Black culture are Leftists. They have been from the start. They have led the impressionable astray. In the old days, when our leaders were stewards of European culture and values, they made it a point to not lead the impressionable and easily led astray.
            When you say “our fault”, it depends on who you are referring to as us. While White Leftist Libtards are racially Caucasian, yes, I surely don’t consider folks with such views as part of an “us” that I want to be included in. They are racially Caucasian, but culturally, they are turn coats. The impressionable and easily led have been led astray by these folks. These Leftists are the folks who have watered and fertilized the Black culture tree, and misled the easily led. They are surely not part of any “us” that I include myself in, not with their Left wing, anti-European American, Negro worshiping ideology. I made a choice many years ago to reject their Leftist ideologies, and will never consider such turncoats and agitators to be a part of the “us” that is European Americans. They have as good as pissed on their birthright with their ideologies.

          • Natassia

            White men have allowed Leftists to effect their families. Yes, I blame US.

          • YngveKlezmerRebel

            You refuse to name the Negro. Folks like yourself that refuse to listen to honest assessments of Black culture, and to realize that emulation of Black culture is at the root of the wholesale degeneration of morals in White America are watering that Black culture tree that grows larger and larger. Folks like yourself need to see the truth, and name the Negro, if you want to take the most important step in repairing moral degeneracy within the White culture. Every time you pardon the Negro, you enable further degradation of our White European Culture.

        • YngveKlezmer

          They are indeed, and they are showing themselves to be ill informed. I’ve been following crime stats for years. The Southern Mountains areas have consistently been one of America’s safest regions, and cities here are known for their low violent crime rates. Those low violent crime rates, the same as elsewhere in America, correlate with small Black populations. Places like Wheeling and Parkersburg, WV, Bristol, Tennessee, and Winchester, WV. Roanoke and Chattanooga have higher violent crime, but they also have large Black populations. Few Blacks=Little Violent Crime, the same as elsewhere. Go anywhere in America, and we see the same pattern.

      • YngveKlezmer

        This has been the way all along with these New England Abolitionists. During the War of Northern Aggression that they started, they consistently hammered away at the stupid idea that the Negro is our equal. The North was full of pro-Southern sentiment, especially from recent European immigrants. Anyone who has tried to discuss the Negro problem with a modern day Abolitionist (Libtard) knows how futile this is. I’ve spent years taking a modern day Copperhead stance, and haven’t been able to persuade, or even shake the views of a single one of these folks. What I’ve discovered is that many of our brethren are closet racial realists. Just as, during the War of Northern Aggression, the numbers of men who actually spoke out publicly as Copperheads was small, the actual number of folks with Copperhead sentiments was mostly likely massive. Just as a public expression of dissent against Union tyranny was rare, due to the punishments one would risk being subjected to, today, a public expression of racial realism is rare. Behind the scenes, though, racial realism is where the sentiments lie for most us, just as much as in the old days.

    • YngveKlezmer

      You are right on the money. The guy from Boston was right when he pointed out the obvious truth we all know, but that Liberals try to gloss over, that the key factor behind those places with high levels of violence is Blacks. The larger the Black population of a place, the higher the level of violence. As far as the stats, those of us that are tuned into reality know that the statistics only scratch the surface of just how violent most Black communities are. A large share of Blacks do not even report most of the violence they witness, and are offended if Whites call the police when violence breaks out. In a city such as Detroit, Gary, or Cleveland, the violent crime stats would be far, far higher if, as Libtards believe, most little old Blacks ladies object to violence as much as most little old White ladies.
      You hit the nail squarely on the head when you say that the guy from Boston should have stopped after pointing out that most violent criminals are Black. When he continued, he glossed over race boldly and shamelessly, in typical Libtard fashion, blaming the Black violence solely on poverty. He wants the White reader, in a place like Vermont, to think that White racism in the South is catalyzing the Black violence, instead of encouraging such a reader to realize that this tired old excuse is a complete load of garbage. He should be pointing out that Blacks have had nothing but preferential treatment for the past 50 years in America, and that, 150 years after the Civil War, Yankees are still waging war against White Southerners. The Blacks benefit from this war, and laugh up their sleeves as they are handed jobs they do not deserve thanks to the modern day Abilitionist, the Northern Libtard, living in a dream world where Blacks are somehow being oppressed by Whites, when the absolute opposite is true. If anything, the Blacks are oppressing us, and have been absolutely been doing so for the last 30 years at the very least. They
      Blacks use the old North/South division amongst our people to their advantage. Though they are clearly our inferiors, especially in the intellectual arena, they are smart enough to see that we European Americans, 150 years after the Civil War, are still a house divided. The New England Yankees are still bullying White Southerners in a War of Northern Aggression, and they still have the upper hand in this fight. The Blacks love this, because they are the #1 victors in this war, and White Southerners are at the losing end. White Southerners know, though, that the Yankee bully always has been, and always will be, morally wrong. Most Southerners know that, just like 150 years ago, the Midwest, Border States, and Lower North are full of Southern sentiment. Many rural Midwesterners, such as myself, would have been Copperheads 150 years ago, and would have seen the Civil War as a war of Northern Aggression. My German/Scandinavian forebears were the kind of folks who rioted against the drafts, and knew that the Negro needed to be either returned to Africa, and that fighting our Southern Brethren was wrong. The real enemy was, and is, and always will be, the Negro. Thomas Jefferson, who obviously knew the Negro temperament well, as a slave owner, cautioned his countrymen that the Negro would never be able to live amongst us in peace, because the Negro is simply too incompatible with us to do so. Abe Lincoln felt the same, that the Negroes needed to return to Africa, that they would never live amongst us in peace.
      It is amazing how little things have changed since the War of Northern Aggression. The New England Yankee Abolitionist, who rarely deals with the Negro, still dictates policy to the rest of us on the Negro problem, giving the rest of us our marching orders on an issue we understand. Here in the Midwest, where the wealthier class largely migrated from New England, a welcome mat has been rolled out ever since the Civil War for the Negro by this wealthier class, a welcome mat that the rest of us wanted to chuck on the campfire from the very start. European immigrants had built proud, safe, and clean neighborhoods in cities like Cleveland and Detroit, and did not want stupid, lazy Negroes invading our communities. The greedy industrialists who invited the Negroes to our communities, and labeled us as racists and rednecks for wanting to maintain our communities, were the descendants of those same New England Negro loving Abolitionists who were behind the war of Northern Aggression. Today, their descendants are the Libtards pushing miscegenation at every bend in the road, and giving Negroes an unfair advantage over all of us. We, the modern day Copperheads of the North, need to join with our Southern Brethren to form and secure all White enclaves where we, as racial realists, can secure a future for the European American way of life. The New England Yankee is never going to stop this war against us. It is time for us to secede!!

  • Erasmus

    Murders are high in Alabama for the same reason they’re high in Baltimore, Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit and Washington, DC. That we can’t tell the truth in the US for fear of reprisal is no different than they had it in East Germany or the former USSR. Welcome to Amerika.

    • ms_anthro

      We can tell the truth, and should. I do. Try it, it’s fun once you get past the first few nerve-wracking times. The world won’t stop turning if someone who hates you anyway calls you a nasty name for speaking the truth. You’ll just have a better idea of who your enemies are.

      • YngveKlezmer

        Indeed. I always tell the truth amongst those I trust, where my job is not at stake. Telling the truth frees our spirits, and the Bible commands us to tell the truth for this very reason. If we lose a few friends, so what, these folks were not really our friends. Our true friends will either end up agreeing to disagree, or will, most often, feel the freedom of being able to speak the content of their hearts and minds to us. They discover that they have a safe place to go to speak of how they truly feel about an issue that is the most important issue, for us as European Americans, in America today.

    • YngveKlezmer

      Indeed. The Negroid race is a violent race. Anyone who has spent much time around them either knows this, or has sunk to their level. Sinking to their level, a polite way of describing a Wigger such as Eminem, seems to be most common in the far North. Eminem, of course, is from Detroit, which was originally settled by New England Abolitionists, as was Cleveland, Ohio. Boston and Buffalo are also full of Whites who have become Black culturally. Go to Pittsburgh, settled by the Scotch-Irish, and one is hard-pressed to find Wigger boy wannabes. One is more likely, in the rural areas outside of Pittsburgh, to find Confederate flags flying proudly in yards, and Confederate flag front vanity plates on more than a few vehicles.

  • MekongDelta69

    It’s the “subculture of violence.”
    No?

    Ok – it’s “the guns.”
    No?

    How about, “oh you know – it’s just those backwards crackers.”
    No?

    Oh man – I’m running out of ideas here.

    No, wait – it just came to me…
    It’s, it’s, it’s… blacks!!!

    I’m shocked, I tell you. Shocked.

    • FormerlyEdNY

      You’re pulling my leg, aren’t you?

    • YngveKlezmer

      A very apt description, indeed, of how these conversations go. So many of our brethren have been bullied into submission, these days, as far as never speaking their minds on the issue of Negro behaviors. They are hesitant at first, but once they feel that they are safe speaking their mind, the ensuing conversations sense of camaraderie are just amazing. A slice of the racial solidarity we Whites had before recent decades has been re-captured!!

  • sbuffalonative

    But Fox cautioned that race often masks deeper socioeconomic factors, such as poverty, unemployment and low levels of education.

    This is the old ‘which came first, the chicken or the egg?’ question.

    All of these may be related but they all have a primary factor in common.

    • So CAL Snowman

      Exactly, every time a story mentions that blacks have higher murder rates than everyone else it’s ALWAYS followed by the “socioeconomic” canard. The fact that EVERY SINGLE majority black country or city is greatly affected by “socioeconomic” issues is completely ignored.

      • William Krapek

        Also ignored is the fact that poor whites don’t act like this.

    • Oldcorporal

      This is the old, “Race may have something to do with it,” quickly followed by a frenzied walking back and trotting out of excuses. “Socioeconomic issues” means, “It’s the blacks, but we’re scared to death to say so.”

      • YngveKlezmer

        And the only reasons we are afraid to say so are the bullying tactics of the Libtards, who are just modern day Abolitionists, and the bullying the Blacks themselves have subjected us to. Blacks are bullies by nature. I was taught, as a kid, not to pick a fight with the bullies, but to stand my ground with them when they get in my face. This is how we handled the Blacks in the old days, before MLK and the Civil Rights bullying session. Most Blacks in the South were treated more than fairly in the old days, but folks stood their ground with them when they started bullying, thus lynchings/segregation/Jim Crow. Most of the Northerners who supported the Civil Rights movement had never even met a Black person, so they had no idea what they were dealing with. Blacks are bullies by their very nature. As such, Southerners needed to keep them segregated, controlled, and occasionally had to enact a little backyard justice to maintain order in their society. The North had yet to see the kind of Black spectacles that would be made of cities like Detroit and Gary at this time, so most Northerners didn’t have a clue what they were dealing with.

    • YngveKlezmer

      Fox is a modern day New England Abolitionist. The Chicken always comes first, but Fox wants to insist that the egg is laying a chicken, by insisting on that brain dead argument about poverty, and lack of opportunity being behind Black violent crime. If that were the case, Wheeling, WV would have one of America’s 10 highest violent crime rates, not one of the 10 lowest.

      • Romulus

        Even when blacks acquire wealth, crime manifests. The instances of black crime amongst NFL athletes almost always involved blacks.

        • YngveKlezmer

          This is probably the best example out there that invalidates the Liberal theory on poverty and lack of education causing Negro violence. If statistics were taken on violent crime convictions of White athletes vs. Black athletes, we know what the results would be. Blacks would be found to have much higher rates of violence. Knowing left wing libtards, though, I am sure that some libtard would immediately insist on raising the question of whether athletes, as a group, are more violent than non-athletes, and hammer away at this as a cause, so as to gloss over irrefutable evidence of a racial connection to proclivities to violence. Anything to gloss over racial realism is employed by these libtards.

  • Hold that thought.

    There was a study, talked about on True News USA earlier this week and on SBPDL today, that links liquor stores to murder.

    Except St. Louis used to have a tavern on almost every street corner in certain parts of the city, the world-famous hoosier culture I mention here from time to time. No murder epidemic, I wonder why.

    A SBPDL comment states that Iceland is awarsh in hard liquor, guns and cramped living conditions, yet murder is almost unheard of.

    • bigone4u

      If Iceland brings blacks and muzzies in, the Icelanders will learn the hard way about murder.

      • YngveKlezmer

        Yes they will. Once upon a time, Detroit and Cleveland rarely had a homicide. Places like Iceland need to learn from the fall of places like Detroit, and accept and understand the real reason, not the politically correct BS reasons. Blacks are a violent race with a bad attitude. They have never done anything other than destroy Western civilization in the places where they are in large numbers. They will never do differently. It is not in their genes to maintain Western civilization.

      • Romulus

        Goto to you tube and view the video “Muslim immigrants to Iceland”. Seems the bowldyk prime minister is importing blacks and haji

    • YngveKlezmer

      With Whites, sure, alcohol abuse produces some bar fights, and a few more murders than when responsible drinking occurs. Alcohol does not change one’s temperament. Most Blacks already have a hateful attitude, before drinking occurs. American Indians get drunk extremely easily, but they don’t go around shooting each other when they are drunk the way Blacks do. Blacks are a violent, hateful race of people. This is why Colt 45 Malt Liquor causes so many homicides in the Black Ghetto.

    • YngveKlezmer

      This is another lame libtard excuse that I’ve read many times as well. Negroid violence is blamed on Colt 45 Malt Liquor, yet no mention is made of the high rates of alcoholism among American Indians, probably far higher than amongst Blacks, on Indian reservations that have far lower per capita incomes than most Black neighborhoods, and that most of these reservations also have very little violent crime. They also fail to look at where alcohol consumption is highest in this country. As far as states, Wisconsin used to have the highest rate of alcohol consumption, and, if memory serves, New Hampshire and Maine were second and third. To take this a step further, they obviously haven’t spent much time in small town America. I’d like to see their lame explanations for the scores of low crime/all White crossroads in rural America where folks go to the bar on Friday and Saturday nights. I’d like to see the libtards explain away how, yes, sometimes folks want to fight when they get liquored up, but a punch is rarely thrown, as friends are there to say “hold on a minute”, and make sure everyone heads home to sleep off their drunkenness. I’d like to see the lame libtard explanation for why our European cultures, and our temperament as Caucasians, are not the two primary reasons why our people have so much less violence than the Negroes when we drink. This relentless quest to always gloss over race, by the Libtards, has enabled Negroes by allowing them to never be held accountable for their behaviors, and has blinded the average person to the nature of the Negro temperament.

  • Spartacus

    “The South remains the country’s deadliest region…”

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    That’s because they have the most groids. It’s that simple.

    • OlderWoman

      Blacks will always be the cause of high crime statistics in the south.

      • Jefferson

        Most White liberals claim that Southern Rednecks like Larry The Cable Guy look scarier than urban inner city Blacks who look like O-Dog from “Menace To Society”.

        I don’t know if they really believe the B.S they are spewing or if they just trying to be PC and deep down inside they don’t really believe that.

        But it is not the Larry The Cable Guys of the world that make Southern cities like Memphis and Birmingham extremely dangerous places to live.

        • Eagle_Eyed

          Larry the Cable Guy is from Nebraska.

          • Jefferson

            But he obviously adopted Southern culture, hence why he talks like he is from Tennessee for example.

          • William Krapek

            He’s from Nebraska? Then I admire him even more. It takes a smart man to build a character like that.

          • Sick of it

            I have a friend who also came from Nebraska and he fits in with the South a lot better than the North.

        • William Krapek

          LtCG always gave me warm fuzzies. Even when I was a liberal. I’m always happy when someone is even a modestly successful in that very difficult industry.

    • William Krapek

      Speaking as a redeemed liberal, it’s often pointed out that “Red States” consistently get more money out of the federal government than they put into it. While “Blue States” generally put more money into the federal government than they get out of it. A higher concentration of blacks and hispanics would explain that.

      I would like to see those same numbers: but just “Red WHITES” v. “Blue WHITES.” I suspect this is really an indication of how much these people bleed us white.

      (Pun intended. God help me.)

      • Sick of it

        Look at data prior to the Civil War. The South was providing a majority of the tax money and using the least amount of all three sections. We also had the highest literacy rate. We had classical educations (though admittedly limited class wise).

      • Part of the red-state/blue-state federal spending imbalance is due to the distribution of military bases in the US, which tend to be located in red states.

    • YngveKlezmer

      Indeed. Negroes are a violent, contentious race. Those Negroes that are not physically violent frequently bully others emotionally and mentally. This is why they were systematically sent to segregated schools in the old South, and even a couple areas in the Northern states. The leaders of the old South cared about the well being of White children, and knew that integrated schools=constant Black bullying of White children, and that the only thing that stops the bullying is to segregate the Blacks. The types of behaviors most of us view as predatory Blacks view as normal, or “jest playin'”. Black kids will beat the daylights out of another kid, and, when the teacher disciplines them, “Ize jest playin” is the most common explanation received.

  • bigone4u

    Too lazy to work, but not too lazy to pull the trigger. That summarizes black “culture” to me.

    • Rhialto

      Language note: Many decades ago “Pull the trigger” was ebonical slang for ejaculate.

      • bigone4u

        So blacks know two ways to pull the trigger. I’ll bet both give them pleasure.

        • Oldcorporal

          They know the second way, all right; look at the number of “baby daddies” who have sperm-donored 22, or 30, or 54, or (and the list goes on).

  • DailyKenn

    Was it Dukes of Hazard or Duck Dynasty that killed 13 blacks in Chicago today?

    • Jefferson

      The 13 Blacks who were shot in Chicago today, they were shot by either “White African Americans” or “White Hispanics’ in the case of Mexicans gang bangers. I am sure that is how the liberal media would love to spin it.

    • Brian

      Boyz N The Hood.

  • Luca

    “But Fox cautioned that race often masks deeper socioeconomic factors, such as poverty, unemployment and low levels of education.”

    The author left out: Low IQ, single-parent homes, drug and alcohol abuse, enitlement mentality and an unwillingness to be employed.

    A journalistic oversight, I’m sure.

    • JDInSanD

      Someday maybe that sentence will read: “But Fox cautioned that socioeconomic factors, such as poverty, unemployment and low levels of education are often used to mask race.”

      • Sick of it

        Considering his name, that is not likely.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    Race has nothing to do with it like clouds have nothing to do with rain. Stories of alien abductions in the National Enquirer are more believable than this absurd excuse making egalitarian race dogma.

    • Sick of it

      One would think that the example of Haiti alone would have caused these people to question the lies they are preaching. And I mean going back to the 18th century.

      • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

        The validity of what they preach is irrelevant, they just go with what they want to believe is true, regardless of the facts.

        • Sick of it

          I think a good number of them know it’s all a lie and they WANT to create destruction on as large a scale as possible, on account of being either evil or insane.

  • Jefferson

    In almost all big cities in the South the Bantus outnumber Whites. That is why the South can never be turned into a future White homeland.

    • Brian

      We controlled it pretty well up til about 1861.

    • Sick of it

      Concentrated populations are often averse to a proper combination of fuel and air.

    • The population of a city is pretty easy to starve in a siege. Relatively recent examples include Leningrad (World War Two) and Paris (Franco-Prussian War). Cut off food, cut off fuel, cut off electricity, cut off natural gas, cut off potable water, and just wait.

      • Jesse James

        I hate to mention this but most often in times of war and chaos it is the rural people who are starved in mass. The greater concentration of populations in urban areas means that when push comes to shove and people are starving they send urban militias and military forces out into the countryside and confiscate the rural peoples crops. Think the Holodomor in the Ukraine during the 1920s and 30s. Many people also forget or never knew that even Western democracies like Britain and the US outlawed “hoarding” during both World Wars in such a way that normally prudent rural people were prosecuted for canning and stockpiling to make sure they could feed their own families. In places as varied as the former Yugoslavia during its post-communist breakup and Argentina during its economic melt down gangs and organized militias from the cities would descend on isolated farmsteads for looting, rape and murder. No rural organizations exist currently in the US that would be immediately available to protect our areas from criminal or government raids in the event of some future economic meltdown or civil disruption scenario. In fact the US government has done everything it could possibly do to destroy any nascent white rural militias.

        • Rural Japanese ate reasonably well during World War Two, but their city folk didn’t.

          I also don’t see how militant blacks or government criminals could prevent rural whites from catching fish when and as needed, short of pouring Rotenone into our rivers and lakes. There’s also potatoes. They stay nicely locked in the ground, all winter, when the soil is too hard for raiders to dig up. Aside from Special Forces types, they also wouldn’t typically know which wild plants are edible.

          • Jesse James

            My point Michael is not that I don’t think some or even most rural people would survive, I just want fellow travelers to think a bit harder about what might actually happen in a time of extreme civil disorder. I think it is naive to think that the entire government will just disappear. We won’t be left alone and just as they loot us during times of relative peace and order to benefit their chosen ones they will be even more likely to loot us when time are dire. What we think of sensible prepping will be outlawed as hoarding by the government.

          • The government won’t “disappear”; it will fracture along racial lines.

  • OhWow

    At first, I was giddy. Someone…in BOSTON of all places FINALLY admitted it was a demographic problem specifically with blacks. But then of course I jumped the gun. He went on to say it wasn’t race, but poverty, low education, blah blah blah. Even though that’s constantly proven false over and over. Poor whites don’t do this. Low educated whites don’t do this. Single parent or divorced whites don’t do this.

    My father died when I was 14. I’ve been raised by a single mother for 10 years now and I’m in a 3 yr graduate program with a 3.7 GPA lined up for a job that will earn me 6 figures within 5-10 years. I am the example the liberals don’t want you to know exists. Just because you grow up in a certain culture or at a disadvantage does not give you a license to be a professional thug.

  • David Ashton

    White racism is solely to blame for everything from flies in Chinese lavatories to cold weather at the North Pole.

  • APaige

    Its demographics-on a local, state, regional, national, continental level. When I write ‘demographics’ I mean RACE.

  • Dunnyveg

    Steve Sailer wrote on disparities in crime rates between Minnesota whites and Texas whites. Texas whites indeed do have a much higher crime rate than Minnesota whites, though that rate is still far below the black crime rate. Southern culture is still more macho than the rest of the country.

    • William Krapek

      Ah. But WHO are these Southern whites shooting? Hmmmm….?

      • Dunnyveg

        Assuming you’re not a liberal with an asinine request for a list of names, the statistics say they are primarily shooting each other. In the overwhelming majority of murders, the perp and victim are of the same race–at least that’s what the statistics tell us.

        • YngveKlezmer

          More than likely, the stats reflect a bunch of Mestizos who are classified as White in the census, or Texans who are defending themselves against Mestizos.

      • YngveKlezmer

        Probably defending themselves against a bunch of Mestizos that just crossed the border illegally, if we are talking about Texas.

    • jeffaral

      You mean “white” hispanics?

      • Dunnyveg

        No, Hispanics still have a higher crime rate. This is just what Sailer wrote, and I have come trust him.

        • YngveKlezmer

          I’d much rather have Hispanics around than Blacks. Hispanics, though, are still much more violence prone than Whites, and the “Macho” male chauvinism that you are thinking of is definitely quite prevalent amongst them. As far as Southern Whites, I’ll bet that most Southern men, who are truly a product of Southern Anglo-Celtic culture, have a more respectful attitude towards women than most Northern White men. The Southern Gentleman kind of epitomizes the concept of Gentleman, a far cry from the Mestizo who beats his wife because his dinner is not on the table when he gets home from work.

          • Dunnyveg

            I agree with you on all counts. I would only add again that Texas whites are more violent than liberal northern whites, though I doubt more larcenous, though I haven’t seen any statistics on this. I say this as a proud Texan.

            As far as Mexicans go, I get along with them great, and I genuinely like many of them, which is something I can’t say about blacks. The only problem is they belong in their own country.

          • YngveKlezmer

            That has been my experience with Mexicans too, though we don’t have a lot of Hispanics where I am. We are just overloaded with Groids. Never had a bad personal experience with a Hispanic. Like yourself, I surely can’t say that about the Groids. Having a positive interaction with them is rare. Blacks have a horrible temperament. The educated ones are exceedingly arrogant, and love contention as much as the ones in the Ghetto.

          • Dunnyveg

            There are a lot of Hispanics around my country, though not near where I live. There are no blacks though. I had to deal with them when I lived in a big city though. No thanks.

          • YngveKlezmer

            Basically, any White person who has had to deal with Blacks in any substantial way either gains a distinct visceral distaste for the Negro race, persists on living in denial of this visceral distaste, or, far too often these days, allows their own behavior and moral fabric to be negatively influenced by the Blacks. In the old days, the majority of Whites were honest about this visceral distaste, and summed things up by focusing on the fact that Blacks are different from us, and that they are born this way, thus, the best answer to American racial problems being segregation. This was not a view born out of hatred, but out of honesty. The old generations believed in recognizing the truth, as scripture tells us to do, so that we can be free. They wanted to live in peace, and this is why they believed in segregation. Blacks had their own settlements down South, and kept to their own, as this is what makes sense. Whites and Blacks both were happy, and Black dysfunction rarely involved Whites. As the late, great George Wallace said: “Segregation Now, Segregation Forever!!” RIP George!!! In a sensible world, you would have been a two term President in The Confederate States of America!!

          • Dunnyveg

            I think the big problems with race relations is liberalism. More particularly, those liberal elites who yelp most loudly about oppression of blacks and the need for integration wouldn’t think about living around them themselves, or sending their children to black schools. Liberals are only generous and magnanimous when it costs them nothing personally; it is hypocrisy on stilts.

            As far as religion and traditional ways of doing things, liberalism began innocently enough as an assertion that the individual had certain rights against governments that were growing more powerful–the essence of our Constitution. The problem is that now liberal notions of individuality have placed the individual above God, country, culture, and even reality itself. This is why liberals are so narcissistic; they do their worship in front of a mirror.

      • YngveKlezmer

        This stat must include White Hispanics. Wonder if Dunnyveg has ever been down South. Macho is certainly true of Hispanic culture. In Southern Culture, being a gentleman has always been emphasized for guys. This doesn’t mean that guys don’t act manly, but it does mean that guys respect women, and this is definitely more ingrained in Southern Culture than in the Catholic Nationalities that settled in the North. Nothing against Poles, Italians, Croatians, etc., but these Nationalities have always been definitively more geared to male chauvinism than the Southern, Anglo-Celtic based culture. Being a Gentleman gets a particular emphasis in Southern Culture.

  • joesolargenius

    If you drive through the rural southern areas on a Saturday it is not uncommon to see a twelve year old boy walking down the side of a dirt road carrying a shotgun, he was taught how to respect and use that weapon to hunt with. City Blacks are not taught that way and so have to use any gun they get their hands on to prove how tough they are.
    Compton /Watts is the perfect example of what happens when you stop frisking suspicious persons for weapons , over fifteen thousand blacks died there during the first thirty years after they stopped doing that.This is a very small part of Los Angeles in which problems were originally settled by fist fighting before the Watts Riot which was allegedly over Blacks being stopped by White cops to check them for weapons.

    • It’s a theory I’ve heard that I’ll colloquially call the “old funky Rollo” theory from Painless Risen on YT. That the first experiences that rural white boys have with firearms is his father telling him what to do and what not to do with these things, what this part does, what that part does. And that the first experience that urban black boys have with firearms is “old funky Rollo,” some street corner pimp-pusher-hustler, handing them a Glock and telling them to turn it sideways and pull the trigger.

      The slight problem I have with that theory is its presumed environmentalism, that you just can’t presume that if you traded all rural white boys with urban black boys and they all changed places, that the end result would be much different. If you moved all urban black boys to the country and tried to discipline them with the fathers of the white boys, you’d end up with the old funky Rollo culture in the rural areas eventually.

      • YngveKlezmer

        If you’ve ever driven through a rural Black settlement down South, you already know the answer to this question. The rural Black settlements look just like their city settlements. Most rural Black settlements have just as much violence as in the city, but with more of it probably going unreported. Cars turned over in yards, gangs of boys walking around looking for trouble, just like in rural parts of Africa. Forget the clean, safe, quiet thing of rural White settlements.
        As far as our cities up here in the Northern states, they were safe and clean before the Blacks invaded them. Detroit used to be very safe, as was Cleveland. Benton Harbor, MI, a small city on Lake Michigan that is now almost entirely Black, is an extremely scary little city. Known as Benton Harlem in the Midwest, this is a no go zone if you are White.

  • APaige

    The original article had a list of the Deadliest cities(the most homicides per 100,000

    1. Flint (Mich.) 62
    2.Detroit 55
    3. New Orleans 53
    4. Jackson (Miss.) 36
    5. (tie) Baltimore 35
    5. (tie) St. Louis 35
    7. Newark (N.J.) 34
    8. Oakland 32
    9. Birmingham 31
    10. Baton Rouge 29

    I did a little research to compare similar sized cities (>100K0 within the same state.
    Notes: Alexandria Virginia (Cannot get more southern than Virginia)murder rate is .7 139,000 people 60 %white.

    Only one city listed for Mississippi and Maryland.(cannot compare)

    Ann Arbor, MI murder rate is 0, 70% white, 7% black
    Grand Rapids MI, Murder rate 5.3, 64.6% White, 20.9% Black. In Michigan an increase in black population equals an increase in murder.

    Lafayette, LA,Murder rate is 4.9. 68% white 28% black.

    Columbia Missouri murder rate is 1.8, population 79% White, 11% Black

    Edison Township NJ. Murder rate 2.0 population,44% White, 7% Black, 43% Asian

    Temecula Ca. Murder rate 0,population 70% white, 4% black.

    Huntsville, AL, 7.2,population 64% white 30 % black

    • Spartacus

      The city where I live in has an unofficial population of nearly 3 million people. We’ve had less than 40 murders per year in the last decade or so.

      https://en(DOT)wikipedia(DOT)org/wiki/Crime_in_Bucharest#Violent_and_organised_crime

      We’re all the same…

      • jeffaral

        Can we trust Romanian statistics?

        • Spartacus

          Yes, you can. There are many things wrong with Romania, but we can f’ing count for God’s sake. Also, all the statistics are checked by Eurostat ever since we joined the EU, so if there were any mistakes, they would’ve found them.

          • jeffaral

            I would say most crimes go unreported in Romania. Can you safely walk at night? Where I live I can.

          • Spartacus

            Yes, I can. In fact, my mother regularly comes home at night from work without any problems. And we live in a poor area, near the exit from the city.

            Many crimes go unreported in Romania, but it’s only minor ones – bar brawls, petty thefts, etc. Serious violent crime is very rare.

      • sshadow

        At 1 per 100000 per year there would have been there would have been 300 murders. How many blacks do you have, 1 or 2?

        • Spartacus

          Not that many. I don’t know any specifics, but I think Romania has less than 30K groids.

      • YngveKlezmer

        I’m surprised that Bucharest has even that many murders. Probably most of those were committed by recently arrived Muslims from the Middle East.

    • An interesting correlation of that list of cities would also include the percentage of their population that is black. Here goes, using 2010 census information from Wikipedia:

      City – Murder Rate – %Black
      1. Flint – 62 – 56.6
      2. Detroit – 55 – 82.7
      3. New Orleans – 53 – 60.2
      4. Jackson, Miss. – 36 – 79.4
      5. Baltimore – 35 – 63.7
      6. St. Louis – 35 – 49.2
      7. Newark – 34 – 52.4
      8. Oakland – 32 – 28.0, but also 25% Hispanic
      9. Birmingham – 31 – 73.4
      10. Baton Rouge – 29 – 54.5

      • YngveKlezmer

        Good stats Mike. You and I both know that poverty does not cause such violence. Most Indian Reservations have a lower per capita income that any of these cities, plus, few reservations are surrounded by populous suburbs with all kinds of job opportunities. Indian Reservations are usually dirt poor, out in the middle of nowhere, and there are huge problems with alcoholism. Yet, most of these Reservations are amongst the safest places in America.
        I used to visit a couple of the reservations up in Western and Northern New York fairly frequently in my travels. The culture and mentality of the American Indian people is why there is seldom a homicide on a reservation. Very much like Southern Appalachia, folks live in harmony with the land, lots of hunting and fishing. Poor and proud, it tune with what matters in life. The Blacks seem to be incapable of tuning into what matters in life.

  • Chris

    Poverty? The Civil War? You’ve got to be kidding. How would poverty be the explanation for pro athletes and millionaire rappers that kill with reckless abandon?

    • Libs are We Todd Ed

      There are 29.8 million Whites, 12.3 million Hispanics, and only 9.9 million blax living under the federal poverty line.
      – census(dot)gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0711.pdf

      If poverty was the main cause of homicide then the 32 million more poor Whites and Hispanics would certainly commit the majority of homicides, but yet blax at 13% of the total population commit 52% of the Homicides in this country.

      bjs(dot)ojp(dot)usdoj(dot)gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus08.pdf
      1980-2008 blax committed 52.5% of homicides.

  • LudwigvonDrake

    This denizen of the intellectual Flat Earth Society needs to read the masterful work produced by the collaboration of two outstanding professors from two universities just across the Charles river from Northeastern University. Richard Herrnstien (Harvard University) and Charles Murray (MIT) documented the facts after data mining the U.S. Gov’ts own statistics in their seminal 1994 work The Bell Curve.

    But then, wasn’t it Jack Nicholson who said “You can’t handle the truth”.

    • Brian

      I’m confident the guy has heard of ‘The Bell Curve’, and probably has read it. But he’s either 1) in denial/delusion, or 2) perhaps deep down he even believes some of it. But he can’t say it.

    • Sick of it

      It’s hard to argue with non-biased statistics.

      • Brian

        If you want to retain a shred of dignity and intellectual integrity, sure. But some of these profs don’t seem to be held back by such concerns.

  • shawnmer

    “Fox noted that in one study he conducted examining crime data, the gap between whites and blacks largely disappeared when he controlled for murder defendants who grew up in one-parent families.”

    And THIS is, of course, some totally random, unpredictable natural phenomenon. On a par with weather, say, or maybe being hit by an asteroid or stung by a wasp! Says nothing about the character, hormone levels, or self-control of the parent who plopped the poor lil’ urchin out of her nether regions in the first place, and also happens to share the same race!

    That makes sense, right??

  • borogirl54

    People in rural areas, regardless of the part of the country they come from, tend to do a lot of hunting and fishing. This is what many of them live for. These are not the people that will commit murders.

    • MBlanc46

      Plenty of guns among my wife’s mother’s family down in southern Illinois.

      • YngveKlezmer

        Excellent part of Illinois, with the exception of East St. Louis and Cairo and environs. Remove aforementioned high crime, mostly Black cities, and Southern Illinois is classic rural America.

        • MBlanc46

          Flora and Xenia and Mt. Vernon is where they’re from. It’s picturesque small-town America, all right. Too rural for my tastes (and my wife’s mother’s, who got out to go to college and never returned), but it’s a nice place to visit a couple of times a year.

  • John R

    “They all have high concentrations of black residents…” OH! REALLY!? You don’t say! I never would have thought that. But, then, Mr. professor-obviously wanting to keep his job-backtracks, to appease the cultural Marxists, “but there are economic factors, not just race…” Yeah, sure, bud. Like there are no poor White people in our society, especially in this economy these days? On a side note, I love how when you mention the welfare dependency of blacks, the immediate reply is “most poor people in the country are white. Most welfare recipients are white.” But, then mention crime and violence, and, suddenly, all the poor white people disappear. See, blacks dominate crime because they are all poor, and all the whites are just so privileged, living in Mayberry. Talk about trying to have your argument both ways.

    • shawnmer

      Actually, their welfare talking point is outdated. Whites would, of course be the same percentage of means tested public assistance users as they are in the general population if every group used welfare at the same rate. But while blacks were always overrepresented in welfare caseloads relative to population, liberals always had the stat that the raw numerical majority of welfare cases were still white. A not-very-meaningful evasion, but still technically accurate.

      No more. Means tested welfare is now roughly only 40% white, 30% black, 25% Hispanic, and the remaining % “other.”

    • Rick Parish

      Since 1996 Blacks slightly outnumber Whites on welfare, this data was available via maybe HHS website (or maybe a different alphabet US gov agency) until sometime after 2009, then it was scrubbed, cannot find it anymore, same as overall US Black murder percentage. II grew up in a fairly poor to middle class town in the 50’s and 60’s, all white, one or two murders in maybe the last 60 years. Most of the poor families had children my age who went on to be very sucessful in life, very self sufficient..

  • Baboon

    “Subculture of violence” I think it’s just a bunch of subhumans causing violence

  • Sloppo

    James Alan Fox, a marine biologist at Northeastern University in Boston, said the areas where the most humans are bitten by large fish tend to have higher concentrations of sharks, which on average are six times more likely than tunas to be involved in the attacks. “There are certainly patterns there,” he said. But Fox cautioned that specie often masks deeper socioeconomic factors, such as poverty, unemployment and low levels of education.

    • YngveKlezmer

      One of these days, some Libtard is going to tell us that the more gentle species of fish are prejudiced against the sharks…

  • Jefferson

    According to that data, Idaho produces the least violent Whites in the country while Alaska produces the most violent Whites in the country on a per capita basis.

    It makes me want to move to Idaho, By the way what the hell is wrong with many of the Whites in Alaska ?

    • Andy

      I suspect that Alaska’s small population leads to larger swings in rate than a lot of states have.

    • Sick of it

      The Dakotas have Mennonite populations which probably skew the data, considering the small number of inhabitants generally.

    • There is a large imbalance of the sexes among Alaskan whites. Unattached men are more likely to commit violent acts.

      • Jefferson

        Could that also partially explain the very high violent crime rates among Bantu males ? Since the majority of them never end up getting married. Even the ones who have multiple kids, they rarely end up marrying any of their baby mamas.

      • IstvanIN

        Women are the civilizing influence on most men.

        • It sure worked on me.

          I also think that the age demographic of white men in Alaska works against them. These are likely to be young men, working in the mineral extraction and fishing industries, which naturally attract young men because the work is physically demanding. Young men of any race are more likely to get into trouble than their elders.

          • IstvanIN

            Oh, I would agree. A lack of women, lots of money to spend on booze, and a dark, cold climate to bring the spirits down will probably lead to trouble. Funny thing is, despite being male, and lonely, and young and rambunctious, white men still get the job done. Black males rarely accomplish much of anything under any circumstances.

          • YngveKlezmer

            We still get the job done, no doubt, but I think that the ladies bring out the best in us. If we are brought up to be gentlemen, especially, being in a good relationship brings that gentlemanliness to the fore.

          • YngveKlezmer

            Me as well. We call our wives our “better halves” because they bring out the best in us guys!!

      • joesolargenius

        I lived in Alaska in the late seventies and was living in Valdez the night the oil plug came through the Alaska Pipeline signifying it was finished.That was a wild night for sure , I worked for a hotel corporation which owned the Pipeline Club a favorite bar and restaurant in Valdez , the first time I walked into that place in 1977 there was seven hookers working full time at a hundred a pop.Approximately 75% of the homes were unfit for children and I noticed that many mothers showed up at the bar at opening time 10 am and stayed till late. I was 23 years old and had fifteen year old girls telling me that it was okay for them to date me because I was younger than 26. After the pipeline was finished the high school graduating class only had one girl in it as the rest all left with the southern men whom they had been dating.Marijuana was legal and you could grow a lot and not get into trouble , I met a lot of good people up there whom could not believe that Alaska had became a state as nobody would admit to voting for that.

  • Non Humans

    My sentiments exactly. By force, eventually as sport. I would be willing to go career on that note.

  • Oldcorporal

    Look at the list of “deadliest cities.” Every one has a high percentage of blacks. Poor impulse control; a tendency toward extreme violence; and higher crime rates in general — that’s what a predominantly black population will bring to your city. The statistics are there, in black and white (no pun intended).

    • YngveKlezmer

      Right on the money, Oldcorporal!! Gary, Flint, Detroit, Chicago, Philly, Baltimore, Camden, East St. Louis, Newark. These are all mostly Black cities known for their high violent crime rates. Buffalo, NY, which used to have a lower violent crime rate, is now known for higher crime, now that it is over 40% Black. Likewise for Milwaukee. A high crime city now that it is largely Black, but used to be very quiet before the Blacks invaded and took over.

  • JackKrak

    Intelligence tests, crime stats, academic performance, workplace advancement, scientific achievement and on and on and on…….

    No matter what field it is, it’s ALWAYS a mystery why statistics from one area/population are different from another.

  • JohnEngelman

    The parts of the United States where whites are most hostile to blacks (or most “race conscious,” if you will) are cities and states with the largest black populations. That is why the goal of a white ethnostate is unrealistic.

    • Brian

      Under current trends, yes. But with major social unrest or even financial collapse/martial law, even a struggle of all-against-all would effectively lead to a darwinian reduction of blacks more than whites, and there would be ethnic cleansing in the aftermath/rebuilding. An intentional white ethnostate would probably not result even then, but even unintentionally, something closer to it than what we have now would be almost inevitable.

      • JohnEngelman

        If all of that happens it will facilitate the Chinese drive for world hegemony.

        • Brian

          You are assuming that we would collapse but China wouldn’t?

    • Jefferson

      Did you just say cities ? So most Whites in Oakland and Chicago for example are hostile to Blacks ? Both of those cities have huge Black populations yet they still breed mostly left wing Whites who see Blacks in rose colored lenses.

      Binging in the presence of a lot of Bantus does not always transform Whites into being more racially aware.

      • MBlanc46

        I’m not sure that most whites in the Chicago area (I can’t speak of Oakland) see blacks through rose-colored glasses. You’d have to be pretty isolated to not to see that blacks are associated with crime. I’d say that that’s the reason Chicago is still one of the most segregated places in the country. People don’t want to live near blacks.

        • YngveKlezmer

          A lot of Chicago area Whites, I think, are racial realists, especially working class Whites. The Left Wing Libtard types are either immoral types who do not see anything wrong with Black behavior, or are wealthy and sheltered from direct contact with Blacks.
          Around Chicago, the working classes have never been naïve about the Negro. A lot of Chicago area Whites are descended from Southern and Eastern European Whites who came to this country after the Civil War, and came to this country with nothing. What they do have they have earned through hard work and sacrifice. I think they tended to have little use for the anti-Southern rhetoric that enthralled the descendants of New Englanders, and to just see people realistically. Blacks were invited into their city by greedy, capitalistic factory owners.

          • MBlanc46

            I think that’s a fairly accurate summary of the attitudes of many Chicago area whites. Don’t forget the Irish, who tend to have been anti-black since the middle of the nineteenth century.

      • YngveKlezmer

        Very true. It only makes a certain percentage of us into hard core racial realists. Whites who have a temperament more like the Negroes, and Whites who are easily led and naïve, absorb some of the Negro mindset.
        This is why I love Southern Appalachia. Many folks here have not had a lot of exposure to Blacks, but are very cognizant of what Blacks are like, and why they should be kept out of a community if that community is to remain a good place to live. Northern rural areas have always had much larger naivete problem, something that I think stems from the anti-Southern media propaganda of years past. Too many Northerners during the Civil Rights Era acquired their point of view on the Negro issue in the South from the boob tube, instead of accurate, first hand accounts from Whites who have dealt with Blacks. The media successfully inculcated many Northerners with an anti-Southern prejudice directed at Southern Whites, with the notion that the Blacks had been victimized by Southern Whites.

    • Martel

      The dominant ideology of the left is the only reason whites reject ethnocentrism. This is simply an ideology devised and transmitted throughout the white population over a period of approximately thirty years until a complete cultural transformation took place. It can always be ousted by another coherent ideology which favours ethnocentrism.

    • YngveKlezmer

      This, though, is why our goal needs to be to create a White ethnostate. I understand what you are alluding to as far as so many Whites, these days, who do not have to deal with Blacks, being thoroughly mired in naivete as far as the Negro problem. This is the fault of our current Liberal media. As Negro racial reality continues to rear its’ head more and more often, as happened with the Zimmerman trial, more and more Whites will “get it” with racial realism, and awaken from their slumber. Remember, until roughly 50 years ago, most Whites were racial realists. Generationally, I think, the Boomers in America are the least racial realist right now, as they hesitate to admit that the ideas of their youth were pure naivete. More and more younger folks are becoming racial realists, and we are not asking our elders for approval.

  • Johnny Squire

    Two comparative questions need to be answered: What were the murder rates in the South during segregation and what were the murder rates in the South before the expansion of welfare in the sixties?

  • Brian

    Fox noted that in one study he conducted examining crime data, the gap
    between whites and blacks largely disappeared when he controlled for
    murder defendants who grew up in one-parent families.

    File this under ‘so what?’ Blacks are far more likely to create one-parent families, which is the salient point. How I wish that we could, in fact, ‘control’ for this, across the whole society.

    • Evette Coutier

      You can ignore this conclusion. One study is not enough evidence to show a societal trend. Second, with out seeing the data or the analysis, the situation was likely cherry picked. For example, he talked about the crime rate evening out, but doesn’t specify the crime type. I’ve worked with poor blacks and poor whites. Poor whites have high rates of drug use, which is a non violent crime. Whereas the blacks have a higher rate of violent crime. Even if they even out, which Is not likely, blacks commit more dangerous crime to others.

  • Brian

    “The South has always led the way in violence, as far as homicides,” said Costanza

    ‘The South has always led the way in TNB, as far as having negroes in large numbers’. There, fixed it for him.

    • Sick of it

      Costanza obviously belongs at a southern university….

  • Sick of it

    Looking at the data, are we sure that Hispanics were excluded?

  • jeffaral

    The Bible Belt is the most violent region in America. Subsaharian Africa, which is mostly Christian, and Latin America, which is very Christian, are at the top on the violence scale. There we have a pattern: looks like Christianity, violence and primitivism go hand in hand.

  • Brian

    Ah, that was the one I was trying to think of. Thanks.

  • MBlanc46

    Prof. Fox gives the answer to the question, then, realizing that he has said something taboo, attempts to back-pedal. Why does Alabama have a high murder rate? It has a lot of blacks. Wherever there are blacks, the is a high incidence of violent crime.

  • Doctor William Shockley, Nobel Prize-winner and co-inventor of the transistor was more than happy to blame genetics when it came to blacks.

  • The problem with those who are not race-realists, is that they never consider that the “other factors” they tend to cite for these problems is also down to race.

    Unemployment, lack of qualifications, higher general crime rates, single motherhood, etc, are all tied to the “black experience”. The place is poor because it is black, not visa-versa. Blacks do not move into poor and crime ridden landmasses, that is what is a result of their presence.

    To suggest that it is not a ‘race matter’ (and instead more complex because of these other bracketed side-effects) is ludicrous to us, but a “problem that needs to be tackled” and a “mystery” to the others.

    • YngveKlezmer

      Exactly!! Race is causal, in terms of Negroids and the social maladies of their communities. Race realism was the common sense perspective of every generation, in the United States at least, until the 60’s Generation. This is why racial realism was the agreed upon philosophy of older adults until recent years. As recently as about 10 years ago, I always knew that, to have a racial realist conversation concerning Blacks, all I had to do was find an elderly person. These days, though, with the Boomers becoming seniors, one has to look for someone over 80 years old to have a polite, civilized racial realism discussion.

  • Epiminondas

    Hmm. I would think correlating Chicago with Birmingham would be straightforward. You might think these “experts” could connect the dots. Apparently not.

  • If socio-economics are causal for behaviors and outcomes – why don’t children from rich neighborhoods attending the same schools, under the direction of the same instructors, who are raised by parents within a similar wealth strata, score identically when tested? Conversely, how can any poor student ever pass an exam – of any kind? I hate Hitler. He and the nazis permanently undermined eugenics.

    • YngveKlezmer

      I always say this about Hitler: Hitler: right idea, wrong group. If he had applied his ideas on Jewish people to Negroes, he would have hit a home run.

  • YngveKlezmer

    We racial realists know exactly what the reason is. Negroes think violence is okay. The hot-blooded Anglo-Celtic settlers of the South are plenty capable of kicking some tail, but there is a sense of decency in place that reserves violence for the rare case of self defense, or defense of a loved one. There is a respect not just for the law, but a heartfelt aversion to hurting another for no reason. The ties of kith and kin run strong and deep in Southern Appalachia, and hearts are guided by loyalty and decency.

  • YngveKlezmer

    Indeed. A city becomes more than about 10% Black, and violent crime spikes. A city becomes more than about 10% Hispanic, and violent crime also spikes, but not nearly as dramatically as with the Negroes. A city becomes 10% Asian, and the violent crime rate does not increase at all. It may even drop a little.

  • YngveKlezmer

    Ironic, isn’t it? You would think that a man with a Ph.D would be schooling the rest of us in race realism, that the Negroid is indeed a sub-species of human, so we should fully expect some particular behavioral traits out of Negroes as a race, just as we should expect some particular behavioral traits out of Asians or Caucasians as a race. Oh, geez, I musta forgot!!! This would make Libtards like him look stupid, and “right wingers” like myself look really well read and intelligent!! Can’t let that happen, LOL!! These Libtards are just modern day Abolitionists.

  • Romulus

    Southern culture my azz. Southern whites have nowhere near the murder rate of blacks or little havana hispanics. Being poor is not an excuse for murder. Appalachia has a very low muder ratio.

    • YngveKlezmer

      You are right. Black culture specifically, whether Southern, Northern, or anywhere on earth, correlates with violence, not Southern culture. Southern culture is Anglo-Celtic, and has a code of honor. Blacks do not fit into Southern culture. They have been clashing with the Anglo-Celtic Southern culture all along, as they clash with all White European Cultures.

  • Look_A_Squirrel

    Studies have show – controlling for everything, the reason for high crime correlates positively with a high number of blacks. Demographics, sociographics don’t matter. The positive correlation in every crime study is black skin.

    • YngveKlezmer

      I think you meant to say that the positive correlation is with Negroid racial background. Mulattoes who are as lightly complexioned as many American Indians or Mestizoes still have the Negroid temperament, with the Negroid proclivity for violence.

  • Tarczan

    Almost heaven!

  • YngveKlezmer

    Exactly!! As you and I know, the reason for this is American Indians having a totally different temperament than Blacks, and an entirely different culture. A different inborn temperament is the most important factor, and the primary reason behind the Negro violence. Most Blacks enjoy being violent, and do not feel, in their spirit, that they are doing something wrong when they are being violent towards another human. This is why even the strong arm of the law is so ineffectual at curbing Negroid violence.

  • YngveKlezmer

    I think you are right, John, that politics doesn’t change people’s minds, but, instead, wins votes by validating people. As such, Bill Clinton was the first President to find widespread White approval for a White guilt philosophy, because so many of his fellow Baby Boomers think as he does. Carter bombed out in the polls, because most of his Generation of Whites were not Groid lovers like him. Back when he was elected, and when Reagan was in office, older adults saw the sentiments of the Boomers as the stupidity of youth, and were hoping that their children would grow up and wise up. They did not. The nineties was the beginning of the Woodstock Generation being the dominant generation, and their messing up of America.

  • YngveKlezmer

    This is basically the same as in the Midwest. There is a respectful gun culture in the rural areas geared to responsible game hunting, and a criminal gun culture in the cities that is a Black gun culture. Let’s face it, Blacks usually use guns to hunt other humans, while most Whites who own guns use them for hunting wild game, and have them handy if they will be needed for self defense, should some of the “vibrant diversity” from the city break into their house.

  • YngveKlezmer

    If they let Muslims and Africans start moving in, though, we know what will happen.

  • YngveKlezmer

    Nothing like us is right.