The Joy of Ethnomasochism

John Derbyshire, VDARE, June 15, 2013

Late Thursday evening I was sitting in the downstairs study working.  I could hear, but not see, the TV in the living room.  Mrs. D was watching the Conan O’Brien show.

In his monologue O’Brien mentioned the story out of the Census Bureau that deaths now exceed births among non-Hispanic whites in the U.S.A.

When they heard him say that, the studio audience broke out in cheers and applause.

I didn’t get up from my chair to go look, but as I recall, Conan’s studio audience is solidly non-Hispanic white.  So they were applauding the decline of their own stock.

What an odd thing!  Is there any precedent in history for such a widespread general ethnomasochistic joy?

I imagine the moving thought here—though I doubt it rises to the level of actual conscious thought—is something like: “Oh, good—soon there will be no more of that horrid race business!  Coffee-colored world!  We’ll all be cool together, like me and my hipster pals!”

Well, maybe.  Or maybe not.

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  • Erasmus

    I’m sure they won’t be laughing when their wives and daughters won’t feel safe to walk the streets, their sons become targets of ethnic violence and their school districts can’t afford to offer AP classes to any of their bright children because all the money has been spent for ESL instructors and courses in remedial math and English.

    How ironic that so many on the left are so well schooled yet totally devoid of any real education, intelligence and common sense.

    • BonusGift

      All part of the brainwashing by the media. Hip show that feigns ‘edginess’ but wouldn’t know true cutting edge if it bit them in the behind. Most people just have a tough time reprogramming the anti-YT meme broadcast 24/7. I imagine most of Conan’s audience were engaging in nervous laughter because there is always that little man in the back of the cerebral cortex (i.e., that ‘anti-racist’ voice) telling them to laugh because everyone else is laughing and it must be funny or else you will be identified as a ‘racist’, Nazi, … better laugh or else. Makes me sick.

      • NM156

        Good interpretation. My brain registered “robo applause” a la Joesph Stalin’s speeches.

        • Sue

          Remember the big “applause” signs. I’m sure they were blinking neon. They always know how to…………….obey.

        • IHateLibs

          There are two types of whites: the self hating liberal types and the ones who are scared of being called racists. The self-hating liberal whites are only a minority of whites, but they are successful for so long because they are the most in-your-face about it and because most normal whites who hate political correctness don’t overtly object to what’s going on. I get a feeling you’re going to see more Matthew Heimbachs, more Richard Spencers, more Republicans who speak out against multiculturalism, etc.

      • Xerxes22

        John Stewart once told a joke about president Obama on his show and he actually had to give his audience permission to laugh at the joke. The audience was so pc whipped that they didn’t know if they were allowed to laugh at a joke about Obama.They didn’t want to appear racist which to these people is a fate worse than death.

        • dukem1

          PC whipped…nice touch. I will get that into a conversation this weekend.

        • capnmorgan5150

          “pc whipped”

          I like that.

        • Kblankenship7

          PC whipped! Good one!

      • A Freespeechzone

        What do you expect, the demographic for Conan has been brainwashed that Whites are the root of all on Earth that is bad; they’ve been taught to self-loathe their culture, skin color and themselves.

        It’s only going to get worse.

      • me

        Spot-on conclusion! These PC people would go along with any outside pressure to conform, in order not to be called a NAZI, racist, bigot, or whatever name-calling that might happen. It starts in preschool, and continues on through adulthood. More and more people are waking up from the PC hypnosis, and it will be interesting to see what will happen then….

    • sbuffalonative

      Unfortunately, they won’t see it. Their grand children will.

      Unlike South Africa, there has yet to be an official transfer of power in the US. The changes will be slower and gradual like the proverbial frog in a pot of heating water. By the time the water boils, this generation that applauded their own demise will be gone. Their children and grand children will be left to fend for themselves.

      • IHLWAP

        On the bright side, the only whites left in the future will be strong, conservative and will probably be the ones who multiply. The self-hating ones today have never had to struggle for anything, which is where all their guilt comes from. That’s why the WWII whites and before were more conservative than the Baby Boomer whites.

    • CaptainCroMag

      Liberals have fewer children than conservatives and are more likely to forgo having any kids at all. They tend not to have care too much about the future of the country, because they are more concerned with the present.

      • Dude

        “Liberals have fewer children […]”

        It’s so beautifully eugenic, isn’t it? We must be becoming a healthier and healthier race with each passing generation.

        • sbuffalonative

          Which is why I support abortion on demand. Let them eliminate themselves from the gene pool.

          The problem is they keep bringing in replacements. Liberal whites may die out but non-white liberals will breed like rats. Even abortions won’t make a dent in their numbers.

          • Dude

            I suspect we’ll end up in a situation like the jews were in historically: small in number, without a country and hated but surviving through strong ethnocentrism which’ll only be strengthened as some leave the community, but none may join it.

      • David Ashton

        They may not marry but their females do have babies (if not white ones).

    • eonic

      Isn’t that the real purpose of schooling as distinct from genuine education ?

  • Freedoooom

    Anyone know when this happened so I can upload a clip of it to Youtube?

    • The__Bobster


  • And… THAT is why I do not feel sympathy whenever I see a pink shirt wearing white guy get attacked in Louisiana, or a drunk white liberal getting his pants pulled down in Baltimore by a flash mob.

    • ms_anthro

      This is a counterproductive attitude. These brainwashed, self-destructive fools, as gullible and easily led as they are, will need somewhere to turn when the mask falls off and the real face of the anti-White agenda in this country (and all other Western countries) appears. When that crisis of faith happens to them, they’ll have two choices: continue on the path of suicide, singing kumbaya all the way, or join us in protecting the future of our race, kin, heritage, and existence.

      There is strength in numbers. We should strive to welcome our brothers and sisters no matter how late to the game they might be. Only when we have the numbers will we create a total sea change.

  • ncpride

    I’ve actually read comments from other Whites who really think that if we are no more, ‘racism’ will no longer exist. How naïve and, quite frankly, stupid those people are! So, by their logic if Whites all disappeared tomorrow, Asians, Mexicans and blacks will suddenly love each other and get along just fine, eh? Ridiculous, childish, fantasy-land nonsense.

    • Erasmus

      While we should try and make an effort to convince them of their folly, if you have little invested in them personally, don’t spend too much energy worrying about them and leave them to their fate. The world will be an entirely better place if they don’t pass along those stupid genes that they’re carrying.

      • sbuffalonative

        Maybe it’s time to stop trying to convince them. From now on, we should just tell them what their fate will be as a minority. Collect the facts about Haiti, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Detroit. Tell them to go to youtube and search “Liberia”.

        Don’t be smug. Don’t be preachy. When they laugh at your ‘racist’ ideas, just give them the facts and let them figure it out for themselves. The smart ones will. They will see we’re right.

        • Erasmus

          Well said.

        • jasdf

          Oh don’t even waste your time with the liberals anymore, especially if they’re older ones. Younger whites I’ll try and educate, but I really REALLY have no patience for the liberals who are middle aged. if they haven’t figured it out by now, they never will. To hell with them. let them be thrown to the wayside.

    • The__Bobster

      Hell, Bantus don’t like Bantus who are a different shade of brown. Ever hear of the paper bag test?

      • ncpride

        Exactly right. I’ve actually heard blacks comment on each others skin tone, and the lighter the skin, the more proud they are, while the darker one looks on in envy.

      • MadMike

        True, have you noticed when a black couple is on TV the woman is always lighter in skin tone…

    • Sick of it

      Huh, just mention one word to them – Darfur.

    • AllSeeingEyeSpy

      I kind of see it the opposite way. While whites are all scared of political correctness. . for people of color being politically correctness IS being racist, favoring and being an activist for their own kind. So as long as this situation exists, the more people of color there are who live in the USA the more racism there will be here.

  • David Ashton

    Wasn’t there a similar incident when Jesse Jackson was greeted by young Swedes?

    • Oil Can Harry

      There was a similar incident circa 1996 when then-President Clinton told a crowd of white college students that whites would be a minority in the US by 2050. The students cheered wildly.

      At the time outraged talk radio host Bob Grant noted that any other ethnic group would have booed the announcement of their own displacement.

  • MekongDelta69

    Leftist guilt-ridden, self-loathing whites have somehow acquired a genetically mutated gene.

    But I repeat myself – endlessly…

  • bigone4u

    I read Henry Makow and other conspiracy websites. Henry believes that the Illumati Jews have control and have brainwashed us into seeking our own demise through birth control, porn, easy divorce, homosexuality, etc. I find nothing to believe that Henry is wrong. As feminist Susan Sontag put it, “The white race is the cancer of history.” (approximate wording)

    • Erasmus

      As feminist Susan Sontag put it, “The white race is the cancer of history.” (approximate wording)

      Well, sure, but only if Frau Sontag is one of history’s vaginal warts.

  • Pax Romana

    “In his monologue O’Brien mentioned the story out of the Census Bureau that deaths now exceed births among non-Hispanic whites in the U.S.A…..When they heard him say that, the studio audience broke out in cheers and applause.”-John Derbyshire

    “Wasn’t there a similar incident when Jesse Jackson was greeted by young Swedes?”-David Ashton

    “Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius.”
    “Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad”

  • bigone4u

    When it comes to mating, whites find other whites attractive and don’t usually go off in search of “brown sugar” (a term attributable to Mick Jagger while in his sexual relationship with some black groupie whose name I forget). If Conan’s audience is sincere in their wish for whites to be gone, then all they need do is mate with other races. I suspect they were motivated not by a real wish for white extermination, but a desire to cheer on the idiotic humor of their hero Conan. If you mate within your race you surely find value in it.

    • OhWow

      It’s just “hip” for liberals to cheer their own demise. Being white is pushed as “nerdy”, “boring”, “pale and sickly”, “not good at sports”, “not good dancers”, etc. and blacks/hispanics are seen as these gods who can enthrall us with this new flavor and vibrance. That’s why you see so many young white kids in the suburbs acting black. It’s simply not cool to be white these days. We are seen as a lame race. If a Puerto Rican person is around it’s all about “Wow! You are Puerto Rican? Can you speak Spanish? You look soo exotic! Your culture is so cool!”. When white people are around it’s more like “Oh, cool”.

      A lot of the media is responsible, especially commercials demeaning whites as geeky fools with pudgy, clumsy bodies insecure about ourselves. Blacks are portrayed as virile gods who can beat you at any sport, run faster, jump higher, dance better, have more confidence, have hipper music, etc. There is no “flava” in being white.

      • Dude

        Blacks can run faster, and probably jump higher on the average, but Whites have bigger torsos and therefore superior upper body strength. That’s why we dominate shot-put, powerlifting, MMA (and lately even boxing) etc. This is old news to physical anthropologists.

    • Erasmus

      If Conan’s audience is sincere in their wish for whites to be gone, then all they need do is mate with other races.
      A self-inflicted shot to the temple would be a better way. Their last act would be to reduce the white population, which they hate, and we’d be better off without their stupid genes anyway.
      Everybody wins!

  • Archimedes_777


    If any white person finds it funny and laughs that he/she will be raped, murdered, mugged and killed by hordes of 3rd world invaders and black thugs around him, he is mentally ill.

    His normal defense mechanisms have broken down and he is mentally ill. He may not realize it, because most mentally ill people have limited insight into their own illness.

    • Peter Lamoureux

      Mental illness due to intensive brain-washing.

    • MadMike

      It seems like a lot of the Mentally ill are in power…

  • The Final Solution

    Well if anyone dares to hope, Utah has the highest white birthrate and highest overall birthrate in the nation and Mitt Romney won Utah by the highest margin of any state in 2012. Over 70% of Utahns voted for Romney. I would recommend anyone thinking of moving to come to Utah – a very good place for whites to raise families and the economy here is excellent. White children are a very common sight. Colored babies not so much.

    • Jefferson

      The good thing about Utah is that no city in that state has a percentage of Blacks that is higher than 2 percent.

      Salt Lake City has an even lower percentage of Blacks than Portland, Oregon.

      • The Final Solution

        Seeing a black in Utah is like discovering a Tasmanian tiger, long thought to be extinct.

  • Greg Thomas

    The White race is the only race on the face of this planet who will sacrifice themselves in order to elevate another race. I can assure you, that black, hispanics and asians do not think this way. They support multiculturalism and diversity from a collective group
    perspective, based upon how it can benefit their specific race. White altruism
    will prove to be fatal to our race, especially against minorities who exploit
    this poison to their tribal advantage.

    Can you image a group of mexicans or asians celebrating and cheering upon the announcement they are about to become a minority in their own country. Who in the hell cheers that? Hell would have to freeze over before that would ever happen. For God’s sakes, if you hate yourself that much, please do us all a favor and go jump off a bridge.

  • Ella

    People are clueless and go by the media-hype of a perfect world. Whites in Conan’s audience probably have poor self-esteem and spend hours drowning in media images. They’re empty conformists.

    • eonic

      “Whites in Conan’s audience probably have poor self-esteem and spend hours drowning in media images.” I wonder how many of them are mudsharks ?

  • Freedoooom

    Just watched it, to me it sounded like a few people making screaming “woooooooo,” not a crowd reaction.

  • Funruffian

    I was happening to watch this idiotic game show yesterday “Let’s make a Deal”. It’s like the show thrives on demeaning Whites on purpose. All the contestants and audience members make complete asses of themselves with their goofy costumes and lame behavior. The only White guy who was chosen as a contestant was a flaming homosexual. Ahh, we get it now. Let’s handpick Whites who are willing to be dorks in public and make 50% of the winners Black by design. Game shows are about as real as Michelle Obama’s wigs. It’s all crafted to elevate Blacks and demean Whites. meanwhile, the Black host tries to act cocky, suave and superior, while the White announcer purposely acts nerdy. There is no doubt in my mind that all of this garbage is scripted and intentional.
    Bring back Monty Hall!


    I’ve heard some in the WN movement comment that the real conflict when this system eventually collapses (the next civil war) at first will be fought (mostly) between whites who think like us (pro white, conservative, believe in the constitution, working class,etc) and the ones who will be against us (liberals, race mixers, mainstream media reporters who cover up violence against us, the elites, the ones who sell whites out for financial/political gain, the soldiers/law enforcement that will turn against us).

  • asksatkat

    Exactly, my friend. The only whites left will be forced the fight. As far as those liberal types? Whenever they say “I hate racists/ white supremacists” I always ask them where they live; what the racial makeup is there. If it’s predominately white, I ask them then why they don’t just move to “the hood” or to a third-world country if they think we’re all the same then? They usually get mad at me for saying that because they know I’m exposing their hypocrisy.

  • anonymous

    By the time we are a minority and they start attacking us, I’ll be an old man and won’t have anything to lose by standing up to them.

  • Jefferson

    It is only considered bad if the pedophile is White. Liberals will say racism and poverty is blame for the existence of Black and Mestizo pedophiles.

  • capnmorgan5150

    Don’t forget the Atheists.

    • Kblankenship7

      Nope. Atheists are hip and cool.

      • capnmorgan5150

        Yes we are, lol!

  • Sue

    I remember reading a few months ago of a marine that said how the hell do you make people understand you’re trying to protect them and their homelands while they’re beating you down? . We can only hope the blood stirs in there somewhere.

  • Archimedes_777


    People are getting (rightly) alarmed at this, but they have to understand some things.

    1. Conan O’Brien is ½ J. They believe they are a separate special race called “J*” and whites must be finished. Eg. J Susan Sontag who called white people cancer. J Tim Wise who wished white hearts will stop beating. The fact that they themselves are white does not occur to them.

    2. These shows are rigged. People who are given tickets to these are told they must clap when the “CLAP” light shines, laugh when the “LAUGH” light shines, etc. The producer/director’s people hit these buttons at the right moment and the audience has to do what they are told like sheep. Those who do not obey the lights can be kicked out or their credit card charged the full entrance price. The whole thing is rigged. All these shows are rigged and people naively believe everything is spontaneous when everything is planned and organized in advance.

    The J O’Brien wanted to fool the white public into thinking that whites are celebrating their own extinction and death and this was the trick he used.

    Even people on Vdare and Amren got fooled!!

  • Oil Can Harry

    Your source?

  • Paleoconn

    I saw this in an Alternative Right article. No surprise. The Whites in the audience applauded when Jamie Foxx said it’s cool that he gets to kill all the White people in his movie.

    These are our co-racialists on the left and right coasts.

    If these so-called comics had any balls, they’d take their act on their road, say to any town in flyover country. See what kind of reception they get there to their racist claptrap.

  • ms_anthro

    I think a lot of them are just cowards. They know the truth but they don’t feel courageous enough to speak it because they don’t want to risk social ostracism or harm to their career and livelihood. I enjoy getting “liberals” to admit to extremely realist opinions after a few glasses of wine, behind closed doors. Far more of them understand what’s going on than they’ll publicly admit. They’re just too yellow to say it out loud in mixed company.

  • Archimedes_777


    Everything in these shows is organized and pre-planned. People are given free tickets to these but are told they must obey the signals on the wall (not visible to camera), i.e. they must clap when the “CLAP” light shines, laugh when the “LAUGH” light shines, etc. The producer/director’s people hit these buttons at the right moment and the audience has to do what they are told like sheep. Those who do not obey the lights can be kicked out or their credit card charged the full entrance price.

    The whole thing is rigged. All these shows are rigged and people naively believe everything is spontaneous when everything is planned and organized in advance.

    These shows are trying to fool the white public into thinking that whites are celebrating their own extinction and death.

    Even people on Vdare and Amren got fooled!!

    • WR_the_realist

      I don’t know whether this is really true as I’ve never been in the audience of one of those TV shows but I won’t be shocked if it is. All the more reason to eschew the mass media. Get rid of your TV. Your life will be just fine even if you can’t watch the football game or the soap opera.