Graham Predicts ‘Breakthrough’ Passage of Immigration Bill with over ’70 Votes’

Erik Wasson, The Hill, June 16, 2013

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Sunday predicted overwhelming congressional passage of an immigration reform bill.

“I think we are going to have a political breakthrough, that Congress is going to pass immigration reform,” Graham said on NBC’s Meet the Press.

{snip}

“I think we are going to get plus 70 votes,” he said. “I’ve never been more optimistic about it.”

{snip}

“If we don’t pass immigration reform, if we don’t get it off the table in a reasonable, practical way, it doesn’t matter who we run in 2016,” he said. “We’re in a demographic death spiral as a party.

The only way we can get back in the good graces of the Hispanic community, in my view is pass comprehensive immigration reform.”

{snip}

Topics: , , ,

Share This

We welcome comments that add information or perspective, and we encourage polite debate. If you log in with a social media account, your comment should appear immediately. If you prefer to remain anonymous, you may comment as a guest, using a name and an e-mail address of convenience. Your comment will be moderated.
  • MekongDelta69

    Lindsey Graham Cracker is welcome to jump over the border fence and sneak into Mexico any time he wants.

    It would spare us having to become Mexico II.

    • Stentorian_Commentator

      That twerp is so loathesome (am I spelling that right?). It’s bad to be suicidal, but this guy is murder-suicidal, he wants to take the rest of us down with him.

      • The__Bobster

        That would make him genocidal, which he is, so he’s a violator of UN law.

    • The__Bobster

      Miss Lindsey would be a natural for their pony shows.

      • me

        “If we don’t pass immigration reform, if we don’t get it off the table in a reasonable, practical way, it doesn’t matter who we run in 2016,” he said. “We’re in a demographic death spiral as a party.

        The only way we can get back in the good graces of the Hispanic community, in my view is pass comprehensive immigration reform.”–Ms. Graham
        I wonder if an over ingestion of ‘testosterone’ destroys brain cells…..

  • JohnEngelman

    “Reform” sounds like a good idea. However, whenever someone uses that word you need to ask more questions. During a stagnant economy when most pay checks buy less every year one of those questions should be, “Will I benefit from this ‘reform’?”

    More immigrants mean higher prices and lower wages. They also mean higher profits. Higher profits for their clients in the business community, rather than the illusory “social conservatism” of Hispanics, is why Republican politicians want to open the gates to more low wage immigrants.

    • Erasmus

      And the attack on the American middle class continues unabated.

      I detest the democrats, but I also have no illusions about the GOP elites’ patriotism. In fact I find people who’ll sell their country out for higher profits even more loathsome than those who betray it out of principle, as misguided as those principles might be.

    • The__Bobster

      “Reform” and “comprehensive” are never good words when liberals use them.

      • JohnEngelman

        It is the same with conservatives. When they talk about “entitlement reform,” they mean less money for Social Security and Medicare. Republicans who are dependent on these programs think they are immune to the spending cuts tax cuts for the rich require. They are not.

        • NordicHeritage

          Do not waste your time on Social Questions. What is the matter with the poor is Poverty; what is the matter with the rich is Uselessness.

          George Bernard Shaw

    • NM156

      Sometimes John Engleman says things that make sense… XD

      • JohnEngelman

        More than sometimes, but thanks anyway. 🙂

        • AllSeeingEyeSpy

          sometimes. . .

        • He’s been around here long enough it has soaked into him. John used to rub me like a cat hung by its tail, and then rubbed the wrong way with tarred gloves, but anymore, he’s mostly OK.

  • Erasmus

    “If we don’t pass immigration reform, if we don’t get it off the table in a reasonable, practical way, it doesn’t matter who we run in 2016,” he said. “We’re in a demographic death spiral as a party.”

    And when you pass amnesty, precious, the GOP’s no longer in a death spiral because its end is now assured.

    Given that their consultants always give them bad advice, you’d think members of the GOP would have enough sense to stop listening to them.

    Pathetic. Just pathetic.

    • The__Bobster

      When you’re in a death spiral, you try to pull out of it, not dive down into it.

      • Dive and pick up some speed so you get the “thang” flying again. I forgot. That’s for airplanes in a stall/spin recovery. Nevermind.

  • sbuffalonative

    Republican strategists have been dissecting demographic data and they have become transfixed by the fact that Hispanics are the fastest growing demographic group. What they fail to see or acknowledge is that this trend is the result of unenforced immigration laws and the endless wave of illegal aliens.

    Their proposed solution to winning the White House is to run either a Hispanic (Rubio) or pro-Hispanic candidate (Jeb Bush). Keep in mind that both Rubio and Jeb are from Florida so a pro-Hispanic ticket would cinch that state for the Republicans (or so they believe).

    I believe Republican strategists see the Democrats running Hillary. Republicans strategists believe that a pro-Hispanic party will trump the feminist vote and defeat Hillary. The idea appears to be that the Hispanic ethnic vote will divide the Democratic Hispanic voters to vote for a Republican Hispanic over a White Feminist Democrat. Hispanic ethnic pride will trump Democrats electing the first female President.

    It seems to be their strategy that if Republicans are seen as pro-Hispanic that they will win the Hispanic vote and take the White House.

    Someone else had a slightly different take. Rubio, Bush (III), Rand, and Ryan are all considering a run. They have been told by Republican leaders and big business donors that they will only get support and money if they back ‘immigration reform’ (aka., amnesty).

    • Erasmus

      They fail to take into account that there are many of us who, once the GOP helps pass amnesty, will begin supporting 3rd parties. By that point supporting a 3rd party will be the only principled thing to do. To win the Hispanic vote, the GOP will have to move further to the left, and by doing so will cease to represent conservative Americans altogether.

    • The__Bobster

      Trinos were only 8.4% of the voters in 2012, yet these morons think their future depends on them? Well, the party has lost me…and millions of others like me.

    • Nathanwartooth

      I’ve thought along those same lines myself.

      I think that Blacks and Hispanics would have a lower turnout for a woman, but they would still vote in the same percentages for the Democrats.

  • Manaphy

    If the Republican Party is ona demographic death spiral, then WHY THE HELL, GOOBER GRAHAM, WOULD YOU WRITE A BILL WHICH WOULD ONLY SERVE TO SPEED UP THE ROLLER COASTER? The Republicans constantly remind us why they are labeled as the stupid party.

    • BonusGift

      Best summary I’ve read so far. Thanks for the brevity and focus; I’d wish the “party of stupid” would adopt a little of that focus and clarity, but I’m not holding my breath as the traitors in the Senate seem hell bent on pushing this final nail in the coffin that was a non-Balkanized functioning country at one point (i.e., save for the knee grows).

  • Well, some good news.

    Rush Limbaugh (!), of all people, named and shamed the Koch Brothers and Sheldon Adelson as examples of names of people who are pulling the Republican Party’s strings to pass this EL CHEAPO labor bill for their own personal financial benefit.

    • The__Bobster

      Rush and Ann Coulter have been two of the few conservative talking heads who have held steadfast on this issue.

      Hannity was the same “borders first and amnesty later” idiot he’s always been today.

      http://www.vdare.com/posts/rush-limbaugh-tearing-up-immigration-attacks-gop-big-money-donors-adelson-koch-chamber-of-comm

      • As you can read, and what I also heard on Rush today, the Barnacle Class (Roverrated etc.) consultant class behind the politicians who are in the Gang Bangers of Eight sweet-talked Hannity, O’Reilly and Cavuto into either coming out for some form of amnesty or at least not being hostile to it. However, someone can’t sweet talk you unless you’re gullible to begin with. Let me put it to you this way — They wouldn’t be able to sweet talk me. There have always been something fundamentally wrong with O’Reilly, Hannity and Cavuto to begin with.

        • evilsandmich

          O’Reilly is a semi-closted liberal and the other two just want to make ‘good’ TV and keep their job. All of them would of course fail to mention that the GOP will lose five white voters for every one Hispanic that they gain (optimistically).

          • BonusGift

            Bingo.

    • ncpride

      So what happens when their pets of cheap labor become American citizens and start demanding higher wages? Don’t you think amnesty will embolden them to make such demands?

      • They really won’t be able to demand higher wages, simply because the presence of so many people with the legal authority to work, either natural born citizens, naturalized citizens or resident legal aliens with work permits will drive down the equilibrium of the wage-salary market way down. And if TPTB thinks sub-minimum wage under the table is still too high, the answer is simple: Import more people.

        • ncpride

          Yes, I can see your point. Also, I suppose with the scarcity of jobs now, they may think twice before making waves because there are so many at hand to replace them who would be willing to keep their mouths shut and be good little cheap laborers.

    • Viking_61

      Three or four Jewish billionaires have more power over the GOP than the 200 million white Americans the GOP is supposed to be representing.

      • BonusGift

        Wow, a truer and more succinct statement has not been put forward by any talking head or member of the party of stupid or the party of evil. You sir are now on the list (i.e., if you weren’t already) of those requiring cultural Marxist inspired ‘reeducation’ and I consider it an honor to be on the same list with you. Thank you for the insight.

  • People of South Carolina, THIS is who you need removed from office.
    Replace him with a democratic diversity. Get rid of the white enemies first. Let the clueless people under 25 draw the conclusion that diversity is a lie, and that Cornelius and Zira’s baby was much cuter than Kim Kardashian’s.

    • The__Bobster

      The under-25’s will be unemployed for the rest of their live if this monstrosity passes.

      http://www.vdare.com/posts/numbersusas-guides-to-the-senates-horror-bill-s744-0

      Next, 4 BIG Problems With Senate’s S.744 Immigration Reform Bill [link; 102-kB PDF] uses smaller type than the preceding and thereby packs a lot more information into its two pages. I’ll provide one sample, which has the subtitle “UNLIMITED COMPETITION TO AMERICANS WITH HIGH EDUCATION”:

      S.744 creates four new unlimited employment-based green card preferences for: 1) Aliens with a PhD in any field (p. 315), 2) Foreign Physicians (p. 315), 3) Foreign Students that graduate from a U.S. university with an advanced degree in a STEM field (pp. 315 – 318), and 4) Spouses and Minor Children of all employment-based Entrants (p. 319).

      [Both NumbersUSA documents were updated on May 16, and page numbers refer to “Schumer’s Substitute Amendment to S.744.”]

      • evilsandmich

        Spouses and Minor Children of all employment-based Entrants

        I’m sure that third/fourth cousins and their families well also be welcomed, or not chased off.

      • Bossman

        Smart and creative human beings create capital.

    • The__Bobster

      How did the doctiors differentiate Kim Lardassian’s sprog from a bowel movement?

      • We’re going to see that disgusting out of wedlock thing on the cover of every single magazine REAL soon. It will stay there until William and Kate’s kid take over the headlines.

  • Athling

    I heard that crazy man Graham make that statement on the radio today. How anyone that ridiculously stupid could get elected to public office ranks up there with the seven wonders of the world.

    He is a traitor.

  • Erasmus

    If Lindsey wants to destroy his political future and the GOP with him, she can be my guest. Just DON’T bring the republic down with you, Lindsey.

    • The__Bobster

      She will change her story once again before the next election and the stupid voters will return her to office once again. I just wish she’d stop wearing men’s clothing.

  • bigone4u

    Lindsey Gramham is lying. The bill won’t pass. He’s just ingratiating himself with Obama one more time. He’s trying to influence stupid Republicans into believing that the party will get the Hispanic vote. Somebody is either blackmailing him, paying him off, or he’s a dimwit.

    • RisingReich

      Probably a combination of two of the three.

      • BonusGift

        I almost spit out my drink on that, thanks.

    • The__Bobster

      All of the above.

  • IstvanIN

    I can guess what they might have on Graham, but what in heavens name are they blackmailing the rest of the GOP with?

    • The__Bobster

      http://www.vdare.com/posts/more-billionaires-for-open-borders-surface

      VDARE.com has long denounced Reason for fanatical Open Borderism: in recent years it has been increasingly motivated by anti white American animus. No doubt the Kochs do not go into their own kitchen.

      But in fact this is a step-up of activity and is an important development illustrating, like Sheldon Adelson’s march through Georgia, the central fact of the Immigration War of 2013: the Treason Lobby is riding on a cash avalanche.

      In a pleasant variation, the Koch bothers though billionaires are not Jewish – unlike Adelson, Mark Zuckerberg, Paul Singer, Michael Bloomberg, Michael Moritz, and I am confident we will eventually discover many, many more.

      Nonetheless they are a deadly threat to the American Nation.

      • evilsandmich

        There’s some libertarian true believers that actually think that this is a bright idea (often couched in the ignorant ideal that all humans are equally capable in all endeavors). You see this maybe best from people like Rand Paul whose head seems to spin as if being an immigration restrictionist would invalidate all his other libertarian ideals (never minding the fact that it’s about the only thing that might make them workable). As Karl Denninger pointed out in one of his rants though, we don’t live under a Libertarian government and thus it would be the death of the republic to engage in such folly.

        But yes, misguided (Koch, Paul, maybe), or evil (the rest), the result is the same and America has no need of either group.

  • David Ashton

    White America itself is heading for a demographic death-spiral, thanks to the Republicans – Democrats and Libertarians.
    You need a peaceful resistance and rational renaissance coalition – WAR = White American Revival.

    • Nathanwartooth

      The Democrats and the Republicans are pretty much pure evil today, especially congress.

      If it wasn’t for the House being so massive and uncontrollable, we would be in serious trouble.

      I’m super disappointed in the libertarians. I consider myself to be a “Libertarian Realist” but I almost need a new word for it because the libertarians have just become an awful mix of Republican and Democrat.

  • Talltrees

    OK, what are we going to do about all the issues posted on AmRen today?

    Here’s my suggestion. We can go to Russia where Putin is at least trying to help Whites.

    Don’t like their architecture, though. Kind of Communistic looking.

    Wouldn’t that floor Republicans if all conservative Whites decided to leave the country for Russia? Sometimes dreaming of revenge is good.

    • The__Bobster

      Putin is mad at us right now because of the Superbowl ring incident.

  • Erasmus

    It pains me to think of all the patriots who fought, suffered and even died for this country.
    If they could come back and see that the clowns in the senate are giddy to sell out the country for which many of them gave their all, would they still think their sacrifice worth it?
    I am from a family with a generations-long history of military service to the United States, but given the willingness of our “elites” to cynically throw away the lives of our servicemen and the country those service men are fighting and bleeding to protect, until things change and change drastically, I do not want anyone I know and love to throw his or her life away fighting for a country now riddled with corruption like a metastasized cancer.

    • jackryanvb

      “It pains me to think of all the patriots who fought, suffered and even died for this country and the breezy way our “best” and “brightest” are now betraying the United States.”

      JR responds. The flaw in your argument is that the USA hasn’t had any sort of pro White war since the Mexican war in the 1840s.

  • libertarian1234

    “If we don’t pass immigration reform, if we don’t get it off the table in a reasonable, practical way, it doesn’t matter who we run in 2016,” he said. “We’re in a demographic death spiral as a party.”

    That makes no sense at all, especially since Hispanics only accounted for about 9% in the last election.

    Rush thinks it is the GOP advisors who are putting these thoughts into the minds of the most gullible in the senate, and he’s got to be right.

    If Romney had gotten the Ron Paul supporters and the hard nose conservatives he would have won in a land slide.

    That kind of talk is what has caused the problems they’re having right now.

    • Erasmus

      And their advisers consistently give them bad advice. But, anyone with just half a brain knows that when someone consistently gives you bad advice, you’d better stop listening to him.

      It’s not for nothing we conservatives call the GOP “The Stupid Party.”

    • sbuffalonative

      I agree. His statement makes no sense at all.

  • Paleoconn

    May the barrio reach your neighborhood, Missy Graham.

  • Romulus

    It isn’t the GOP THAT’S IN A DEATH SPIRAL. ITS THE WHITE BIRTHRATE! The hombers will almost overwhelmingly vote democratic unless their spaniards. Why doesn’t the rhino jerks just tell whites the truth. You there all your babies in the trash, so now we have to port the labor to pay for the boomers retirement.

    • BonusGift

      I agree with the tragedy of killing white babies; but, but, but … importing mestizos will not solve even the retirement issue. In short, they will not pay for retirement of YT, let alone themselves. The whole import ‘fertile’ darkies meme is a big canard/lie that the cultural Marxists dangle as an illusory carrot that will never be realized but will not be recognized as such until it is too late. The simple proof is to look at mestizo dominated countries and their pension plans (at best they support a few overlords but not a broad population). In an industrialized society having babies doesn’t guarantee a pension, producing productive inventions does and there is only one group that systematically, and only under the right conditions, can do that.

  • Transpower

    Graham is a RINO.

  • White Mom in WDC

    Wow. How about getting back in the good graces of working and middle class whites? Oh that’s right, we are just white trash.

    Congress can pucker up and kiss my white arce!

  • NM156

    The GOPs going-out-of-business sale starts this Saturday! Better get there early to beat the hoards of cheap labor lobbyists and race hustlers.

  • NM156

    Graham is propagandizing to get the bandwagon going. No evidence he’ll get even a filibuster-proof 2/3.

  • White Mom in WDC

    I’ve heard Graham is gay. He’s got a hankering for some of that Mexican chorizo. Gnomesayin?

  • me

    It pains the United States Senate to THINK…..stupid should be painful.

    • NordicHeritage

      “Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few”.

      George Bernard Shaw

  • AllSeeingEyeSpy

    hehe Graham is going for comedy at the end.

  • KenelmDigby

    He doesn’t seem to care that White America is in a demographic ‘death spiral’.
    His only concern is to arrest the Republican Party’s ‘death spiral’.
    In other words he couldn’t give a damn about the people he’s supposed to represent, only his own selfish pecuniary interest – the Republican Party is a good living for him.

    • Vito Powers

      KenelmDigby, you’re assuming that Lindsay Graham is thinking for himself. Graham is only reciting the Talking Points that were provided by Karl Rove, Ed Gillespie, and Frank Luntz.
      Graham is just another mental midget like his fellow amigo, John McCain

  • jackryanvb

    South Carolina doesn’t have a straight Southerner in the offices of Governor, US Senate.
    Maybe Southern patriots in that once great state should be the ones to take down the Confederate Battle flag, put up the rainbow gay flag, Black Nationalist flag, Mexican flag or just the UN flag.

  • Jackryanvb

    Another reason is that South Carolina has gotten rather wealthy, what will all the German and Japanese auto plats relocating there.

    With wealth, newly rich Whites like to gain social acceptance with the wealthy, liberal elites in the North East, they want their children to be accepted at Harvardm Ivy League schools, so they put on the Spin that:

    “hey, we’re not racist anymore, see we have a Hindu Indiana woman governor, a Black Republican US Senator and a gay GOP Senator”.

    These type cover their base with South Carolina White voters by pushing for more and more military spending, supporting Neo Con wars, Christian Zionist religious right stuff every now and then. And besides, they spin that the East Indian governess, the affirmative action Black US Senator, even Lindsey Graham are really “conservative”, just a new kind of conservative – not racist.

  • Jackryanvb

    Agreed. I support Amren’s policy of supporting, or tolerating White gays who are on our side. America desperately needs our own Pym Fortyn. But, homosexuals like Lindsey Graham who are obsessed with replacing our people with third world immigrants, including Muslims – these homosexuals are filthy perverts that need to be tapped out.

  • Lila Dennis

    How in the world do these politicians think that by enlarging their circle of voters can they get more votes and influence? I say we label any such campaigning as traitorous and undemocratic. I am waiting for the brave politician who stands up and shouts to the world ” I don’t want your vote if you don’t look like me!”

  • Epiminondas

    The only question I have is “why”? Why does Graham believe this stuff? Or does he believe it? Is he being bought off? Isn’t there anyone in South Carolina with just a smidgeon of common sense that the senator would listen to?

  • Erasmus

    Have you never heard of Teddy Kennedy and John McCain?

  • WR_the_realist

    Yes, the Republican Party is in a demographic death spiral. The way to hasten it is to pass that amnesty bill. Lindsey Graham is horrid in just about every way. If he wants to know why Republicans are unpopular, he should just look in the mirror.