Poll: Citizenship Support Slips

Kevin Cirilli, Politico, May 2, 2013

Support for a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants has declined from last month, a new poll found.

Fifty-two percent of Americans backing granting illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship, compared with the 59 percent who supported such action in an April 4 poll, according to a Quinnipiac University survey released Thursday. Eleven percent think they should stay but not be granted citizenship, and 30 percent think they should not be able to stay. The rest were unsure or didn’t answer.

Among Republicans, 36 percent think they should be allowed to stay and eventually apply for citizenship; 15 percent think they should stay but not be granted citizenship; and 42 percent think they shouldn’t be able to stay. Among Democrats, 69 percent think they should stay and be granted citizenship; 8 percent think they should stay but not be granted citizenship; and 18 percent think they shouldn’t stay. The rest are undecided or didn’t answer.

An increase of voters think that illegal immigrants should be required to leave the country—30 percent of Americans think they should leave, a 5 percentage point increase from the 25 percent who thought so earlier this month.

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  • James Nevins

    WELCOME TO UNUNITED STATES OF MEXICO

  • I hope this is good news and indicative of declining support for an overall “comprehensive” bill.

    But our enemies could turn this against us:

    They’ll just present a bill that has work permits and deportation deferral and guts E-Verify, but has no path to citizenship. If such a bill were presented, Democrats might balk initially, but I think most of them can be taken aside and have TFOL explained to them, that even if they’re not “citizens,” they’ll get to vote anyway because nobody will stop them when they try to register to vote, and the Feds will intervene against any state that won’t register illegal aliens on the voter rolls.

    • Erasmus

      Now, versus 1986, we have the internet on our side. Trying to steal the country is getting harder and harder for our “elites.”

      • So CAL Snowman

        Dude they already stole it. It’s up to us to take it back.

      • sbuffalonative

        Everything we need to fight them with is in the comprehensive package.

        All we have to do is expose each issue being proposed and the American people will see what a nightmare this ‘reform’ will be.

        Before anyone proposes any form of amnesty, we need at least three guaranteed issues to be resolved (I’m not supporting amnesty but I believe these are three issues that would stop it in it’s tracks if the were handled correctly).

        First, the border has to be proven to be secure. Unless the border is secure, the flood of unregulated immigration will continue.

        Second is proof that employee verification will work 100% and that employers will be punished financially and with jail time if they are found to be hiring illegals. Clear, swift, and harshly enforced penalties must be in place.

        Third is to have an enforceable plan to deal with anyone who comes here illegally. No more ‘caught and release’ summons to appear later. If you’re here illegally there must be an means to deport people immediately. No exemptions. No questions asked.

        Of course there are many others such as what benefits and special treatment illegals would get if amnesty passes. No exemptions for families or hardship, etc.

        Again, I’m not supporting amnesty but just these three must be addressed. Without clearly defined enforcement infrastructure in place, amnesty is just another name for unregulated immigration.

    • dd121

      Do you really think the Republicans will resist “comprehensive” “reform”? It just feels like our leaders are moving us toward our comprehensive doom.

      • If we are able to beat back the comprehensive onslaught this time, you will find that, while there will be a predictable contingent of RINOs, pseudo-libertarians, blue state Republicans and EL CHEAPO labor lobby whores within the Republican caucus who will have voted for it, that almost all Democrats will have voted for it, and that it will have died largely at the hands of red state conservative Republicans, disparately in the South.

      • George White

        No, you’re wrong. I’m on the phones daily. MOST of the GOP Senators seem to be against it. You have the few RINOS of course, but most Republicans know very well that Latinos are NOT going to vote GOP. I think I read today that Rubio doesn’t think he has 70 votes. I can see where he’d get 50 scumbag dems who hate this country and want to see it die, but to get 20 Republicans is going to be tough. Let’s see…McCain, Flake, Rubio, Lee, Paul? I think I left out one or two, but even at that, not close to 20. By the way, all of the readers of Amren should be making calls and writing letters to their Senators and Congressman to STOP amnesty.

        • And all our calls and letters to Rand Paul seems to have worked, because he’s making noise about voting against it. Of course, he still stipulates that he wants an amnesty bill of some sort, but just not this one. But if it fails now, amnesty in terms of a formal piece of legislation won’t come up again any time the rest of this year or next, nor in 2015 or 2016 if the Republicans hold the House in 2014. Mike Lee seems to be a solid No vote, even though on other immigration issues, he is problematic.

      • NM156

        You must be a lefty straw man. The GOP House wouldn’t even consider the Kennedy-Mc Cain bills of 2006 and 2007 and, despite what Boner says, the even-more Republican House of 2013 won’t pass any comprehensive bill the Senate sends them. Stop whining like a teenage girl and get busy doing what you can.

        • dd121

          You must be new here.

          The Republicans usually put up some token resistance then when the leftist media tells them public opinion is against them, they fold.

          • NM156

            …until their constituency reminds Republican Congressmen why they put them in office in the first place.

    • sbuffalonative

      There has never been wide spread support for amnesty. Proponents of amnesty have always talked around the American people on this issue insisting it will be ‘good for America’ and is a ‘much needed reform’.
      No native born American is losing sleep at night over the ‘plight’ of illegals. It’s the MSM who keep pumping out ‘pity the poor immigrant’ narratives to tug at heartstrings and evoke guilt and sympathy.
      The majority of Americans want fewer immigrants but those in office have closed their ears to them.
      This issue is clearly driven by selfish personal motives and not the will of the people.

  • Ralph

    Brown amnesty is genocide of Whites.

    • Erasmus

      Brown amnesty is deliberately stultifying the country’s intellectual capability.

    • AugustusAlexander

      Nah bro, didn’t you hear Mexicans are white? According to the police reports they are.

      • Jefferson

        So does that Mexifornia is still a predominantly “White” state if Mexicans are White ? Los Angeles is a predominantly “White” city ?

        Mexifornia has the darkest skin “White” people in the nation.

        • Bossman

          There are only three main racial divisions: White, Black and Asian. Mexicans are not a race and they can’t be described as Asians or Blacks so what else to do but to describe them as white.

          • MarcusTrajanus

            No, there are more races than just White, black, and Asian. There are American Indians, Polynesians, Aboriginals, and many other groups that don’t fit in your simplistic categories. Most Mexicans are mestizos (White/Amerindian mixtures), there are also pure Indians and even some Whites.

          • Bossman

            You should go talk to an anthropologist or go back to biology 101. Every sub race belong to one of the main racial divisions of mankind. Australian aborigines and some South Pacific islanders are the only peoples that anthropologist have trouble classifying.

      • Bossman

        They’ve always been white. The term Hispanics did not gain currency until the 1970s. I guess that there are many shades of Mexicans.

        • MarcusTrajanus

          I guess you think the Aztecs were White.

          • Bossman

            No, I don’t think they were white but sometime in the past the United States government decided to classify Mexicans as white. I really don’t know what influenced their decision to do so.

        • Guest

          Of course YOU are one of them, right? Get lost, troll.

    • George White

      You nailed it my friend. In one sentence.

  • AugustusAlexander

    I have supported the republican party my whole life even when i could not vote all the way back to elementary school.

    But being as Illegal immigration has always been the biggest issue i can no longer vote for the trash appendage of the left aka the republican party. We need a nationalist party and we need one bad, i am ready to volunteer, donate and even work for such a party. The two party system is failing most Americans no matter your side and it’s failing them hard.

    • Erasmus

      Well said. There are some things so odious, amnesty for illegal aliens being one of them, that to vote for any party who supports them is morally unacceptable. At that juncture the only right thing to do is vote for a 3rd party candidate. At the very least you’re not actively giving your assent to immoral behavior.

      • AugustusAlexander

        My father is from Georgia, he is a very reasonable, convicted and principled man with a finance degree. Ever since i was little he has taught me the negative impact of illegal immigration, i am not the same as him but like him i cannot compromise on some things.

        And where the hell is Americas nationalist/far right/ anti-immigrant party? the tea party?…..lol

    • Tucker

      Count me in on this long overdue idea, Augustus.

      Meanwhile, over at the old A3P (now The American Freedom Party), Merlin Miller is demonstrating that he has been thoroughly brainwashed with the liberal Hollywood brain disease known as ‘anti-Whiteism’; and he and the party’s weak kneed board of advisers are busy hurling derogatory missives at the ‘White Nationalist’ community and at decent, racially healthy White people like those here in the AmRen community who are simply concerned about the survival of White European people and who correctly believe that the only way to guarantee our survival is for Whites to have an exclusively White Ethnostate and a homeland that is ours and ours alone.

      I will confess, that back when Merlin Miller first became involved with the old A3P – I had serious reservations about having anyone represent a supposedly pro-White party that had a background that involved Hollywood. To work in that town and not be infected with the disease of anti-Whiteism, one would have to wear a hazmat suit 24/7, 365. Miller clearly didn’t, and I suspect that he was sent to the A3P for the express purposes of subverting its original pro-White position and replacing it with the same kind of ‘multi-culturalism’ anti-white, white racial genocide ideology that both the Rs and the Ds are already infected with.

      • Guest

        This is what the anti-Whites do. Subvert and infiltrate ANY pro-White movement. This is why White America is doomed until we name the enemy and EDUCATE Whites on who they are and WHY they are here.

    • jackryanvb

      Get back involved with GOP at the local level. Take overly county politics and make sane immigration policy a reality.

  • Greg Thomas

    There was never support to begin with. Enforce our immigration laws and deport illegal invading mestizos.

  • The__Bobster

    I think people are finding out what’s in “the bill”.

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/fox-boston-bombings-may-doom-immigration-deal

    Fox: “Boston Bombings May Doom Immigration Deal”
    By Peter Brimelow on May 2, 2013 at 12:56pm

    Steve Sailer has intoduced me to the icky-sounding term “Flop Sweat” in the context of the Amnesty/ Immigration Surge bill’s increasing loss of momentum. It’s evident even in this Treason Lobby propaganda piece from Fox: the new pollaganda ploy of asking Americans about a “path to citizenship” with artfully vague requirements is failing:

    A Quinnipiac University poll taken this week said in the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings 23 percent of voters changed their opinion on whether to allow a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

    And that was before two Kazakh nationals, both in the country illegally, were arrested Wednesday for trying to destroy evidence at the behest of the surviving bombing suspect…

  • The__Bobster

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/tide-turning-on-gang-bill-sessions-says-so-deploys-borjas-strategy

    Not only does Sessions know of Borjas, he sees that the issue of the wage damage done in the lower economic and younger levels of American society is a lethal polemical weapon.

    Jeff Sessions himself does not seem moved by money.

    Other Sessions observations on the bill:

    …this is going to be a disaster. It’s going to be a disaster for enforcement, it’s going to be a disaster for our budget, it’s going to be a disaster for the wages of American workers, it’s going to add to our financial deficit, Social Security and Medicare are going to be impacted over the long term by trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities and these numbers are not going to be disputed if we go forward.”

    “…of the 11 million people here today illegally, over half do not have a high school diploma…a huge percentage will qualify for all kinds of these government programs. We’ve also discovered…that the people that are coming legally, about two-tenths of one percent, virtually nobody, is being rejected based on the requirement that you should not be a public charge. In other words, we’re not even enforcing that requirement and it’s certainly not going to be enforced with regard to those that will be given amnesty….”

    “They’re selling the sizzle. They’re selling the smell. And it’s a shoe leather instead of a steak.”

    If the tide is turning on this atrocity, Jeff Sessions will deserve much of the credit.

  • Erasmus

    Support slipping? And as more people learn what a travesty this piece of garbage cobbled together in the dead of night behind closed doors really is, expect support to slip even further. Do our “leaders” know they should be afraid of the American people? Is this why so many of them now want to take away our 2nd amendment rights?

  • bigone4u

    Those who support amnesty are either nuts, greedy for cheap labor, unfamiliar with the social pathologies of illegals, or Democrats hungry for votes. Of course, being nuts is not incompatible with the other categories.

  • AugustusAlexander

    I love how Americans have been against illegal immigration since forever but yet they let more and more in….these people have like 3+ kids then the media keeps asking the same polls year after year and then they are like “breaking news, people now SUPPORT amnesty.”

    It would be like if America had a poll which was like “do Americans want Muslims legally immigrating to their country?” – America responds 90% no

    ……..40 years later after millions upon millions of Muslims have been let in they ask again “do Americans want Muslims legally immigrating to their country?” – America responds 49% No

    Then they are like “BREAKING Fawking NEWS, AMERICANS NOW SUPPORT MUSLIMS IMMIGRATING TO THE UNITED STATES!”

    • bigone4u

      The media tries hard to get the results they want, don’t they. With the media opposed to everything that race realism and white nationalism, it’s difficult to get the truth out, but not impossible because of the Internet.

  • KingKenton

    Support for a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants has declined from last month, a new poll found.

    Yeah, so…? As if this will stop our overlords from passing an amnesty, I mean immigration reform bill. When was the last time politicians cared what the majority of Americans thought, anyway?

    • AugustusAlexander

      Does not matter, America has been anti-third world immigrants since forever….they just keep letting them in until they get the poll results and votes they want.

  • Secret Tribunal

    Cooling to the idea of immigration reform for the undocumented workers who just want to come here to make America better has been deemed a Hate Crime against Fundamental Transformation and Keeping Families Together.

  • During the Reagan administration Americans were promised that IF the Mexican invaders were given amnesty that the government would see to it that ALL future immigrants would have to obey the laws.

    So now I’m supposed to believe that these anti-whites will keep their promise this time!?

    Both the Republicans and the Democrats are in favor of white genocide. This also includes the Tea Party and the conservatives.

  • mobilebay

    I would really like for someone to explain why people who sneaked into our country be allowed not only to stay, but to be handed our most precious birthright – citizenship. Not a politician – we know their agenda. but one of those who thinks its okay to welcome lawbreakers. An American who breaks into a residence or shop goes to jail. An illegal alien (PC not spoke here) who breaks into our country is welcomed and rewarded. What’s wrong with this picture?

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      I know actual, run-of-the-mill liberals, not politicians, who seriously believe it’s “racist” and “discriminatory” to not give illegals citizenship. They also think it’s “mean” to have requirements, like fines and long years to wait, before citizenship is granted.

      They’ve been so deeply brainwashed that they can’t be saved.

      • Guest

        Don’t forget that ole stand-by.

        “Think of their children, we can’t punish the illegal’s kids, why they all grew up here” ….

        Drive by any school in my city and all you see is BROWN and BLACK faces! The same ones who will grow up to be gang bangers, anti-white racists, and on welfare with lots of their offspring, draining even more White taxpayer dollars. My city looks like Mexico and Africa rolled into one.

  • Snowhitey

    I don’t believe those figures at all. Folks, this is a method of brainwashing. They try to trick you with bogus figures.

  • joegoofinoff

    For years now, I’ve been a letter to the editor writer. I write now that it’s good Americanism to despise the federal govt. If you learn how to make statements in the form of questions, many times you can get your letter published. The question marks confuse the censors. My letters are mostly anti-federal govt. now because it’s pretty clear they’re the problem. They are the ones in violation of the Constitution (The constitution is also very confusing to liberal jounalists) for refusing to do their duty by guarding our borders and in many other areas as well.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    “Among Republicans, 36 percent think they should be allowed to stay and eventually apply for citizenship.”

    If you needed another reason not to vote Republican, here it is.

  • Viking_61

    Thank you Tsarnaev brothers, you have unknowingly awakened a nation to millions of foreign parasites just like yourselves!!!

    • Bossman

      Muslim terrorists are always aiding and abetting the far right.

  • There was never any “support” except from the sort of libtards who fill their own homes with 75 stray cats and want the rest of us to each do the same. Support isn’t “slipping”; our Hispandering “representatives” have us sharpening our hatchets and knives while the – er – sharper among us invest in rope, tar and feathers futures.

  • NM156

    Scott Pelly of CBS news declared earlier this week that 85% of Americans favor “a path to citizenship” for illegals. Of course, even IngSoc gets carried away from time to time in their zeal…

  • Jefferson

    Most people in the yahoo news comments section are against amnesty for illegals. Yahoo news section must not have a lot of libtards and “richly diverse” people.

  • cockhopperzsuck

    The only thing I support is deportation for all illegal aliens.

  • Anan7

    What about those of us who want these people back in their own countries? Why are our concerns being ignored?

  • me

    Are you SERIOUS??!! Washington DC could give two farts about what the ‘citizens’ of this country want or need….including the collective distaste for the great Brown invasion from the South. The only way you’re going to ‘defeat the elite’ is through city, county, and state elections. Local laws and public shunning are realistic–looking to DC for doing the ‘will of the people’ is futile.

  • liberals are twisted

    All liberal ideas are nothing but bloated lies bluffs cons swindles hyped scams snake oil sales that vaporize once the new wears off and reality sets in.

  • WR_the_realist

    Those pollsters usually slant the results in favor of giving illegal immigrants citizenship by presenting a false dichotomy — we either give the illegal immigrants citizenship or clog up our courts with 15 million deportation cases. People can see that the latter is just impractical so go for the first choice. A third option, mandating E-verify and strictly enforcing the law that illegal immigrants can’t get public benefits, would solve 95% of the problem — illegal immigrants who can’t get jobs and can’t get on the dole would go home.

  • Merlin Miller and the American Freedom Party are the best things going in our political fight to save our race and nation make no mistake about it. I am Harry Bertram and I approve of this message!