The Radicalization of Tamerlan Tsarnaev

Daily Mail (London), April 23, 2013

In America, he had been a cocky and charismatic heavyweight boxer who wore fancy pointy leather shoes and slick white shirts down to the gym. In Dagestan, the volatile southern Russian region where he lived for a time as a teen and returned to spend the first half of 2012, he became a quiet young man who spent his days online studying Islam, nursing a growing anger against heretics.

Exactly what turned Tamerlan Tsarnaev into the suspect accused of three murders and mass wounding in the Boston Marathon bombings may never be known. He died in a gunfight with police leaving no explanation.

His younger brother and alleged co-conspirator Dzhokhar is in hospital, barely able to speak. But a picture has emerged in the days since Tamerlan was killed of a proud but angry young man who never quite achieved his own idea of the American dream, but found solace instead in a radical form of Islam adopted by fighters in his homeland.

What now seems clear is that he was deeply influenced by a few months’ sojourn in Makhachkala, Muslim Dagestan’s capital on the Caspian Sea, where children in the street play ‘cops and guerrillas’ and bombings and shootings are everyday news.

‘His radical turn could very well have happened here,’ Dagestani sociologist Zaid Abdulagatov said. ‘The Islam that we have in Dagestan today is very tough, very politicized, very dark at times.’

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The brothers attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin High School, a public school that counts actors Matt Damon and Ben Affleck among its alumni but has a diverse student body that includes working-class immigrants from around the world.

The younger Tsarnaev brother, Dzhokhar, adjusted much more successfully to life in Massachusetts than Tamerlan. Friends describe him as a mild-mannered pot-smoker, and seem genuinely shocked that he could have been involved in violence.

The Twitter feed Dzhokhar’s friends have identified as his chronicles a typical, restless teenage life. He’s always hungry. He dreams of cheeseburgers. He’s not fond of MTV or celery or homework. He jokes with friends about getting high, finding girls, watching the fantasy saga “Game of Thrones” on TV. In a few tweets, he talks about his roots. Last March, for instance, he used the hashtag #chechnyanpower and then wrote: ‘a decade in America already, I want out’.

A few posts from recent months offer hints of anger. In February, he posted: ‘Do I look like that much of a softy … little do these dogs know they’re barking at a lion.’

And in March: ‘Never underestimate the rebel with a cause.’ But mostly, his tweets paint a picture of a laid back college student, with few hints of alienation or anger.

The day after the bombing, he, now notoriously, tweeted: ‘I’m a stress-free kind of guy’. So at ease was he after the attacks that he went to the gym the following night, where he struck up a conversation about it with fellow student Zach Bettencourt. ‘This is easy to do,’ Dzhokhar Tsarnaev said of the bombing, according to Bettencourt who spoke to Reuters.

‘These tragedies happen all the time in Afghanistan and Iraq.’

Several of his friends have launched Facebook and Twitter campaigns proclaiming his innocence and arguing that he was set up. Others have said they believe so strongly in his good character that they would testify for him at trial.

Dzhokhar may have been influenced by his charismatic older brother. A video posted on the Internet by the younger Tsarnaev with the caption ‘My brother, seriously messing around’ shows Tamerlan as a mesmerizing goofball, sending up Chechens, Dagestanis and other ex-Soviet minorities with comedy accents in Russian, while the cameraman, presumably Dzhokhar, laughs wildly in admiration.

But it was the charming older Tsarnaev brother who seemed to have a harder time fitting in.

Through high school, and for years afterward, Luis Vasquez thought of his classmate Tamerlan Tsarnaev as ‘a big, friendly giant’, who never lost the accent in his slow, deep voice.

{snip}

The morning after Tamerlan was killed in the shootout, news reports seized on a quote from a caption in a photo essay that showed him training for boxing at a gym, in which he said he had no American friends because no one there understood him. Vasquez said the quote has been misinterpreted: Tamerlan may have preferred the company of other immigrants and minorities to white, native-born Americans, but he was no loner.

The pictures clearly show him as a cocky, sociable young athlete, confident of his sporting skills, dressing in smart clothes and play-boxing with an attractive blonde woman. He was planning to represent New England at a national competition.

Tsarnaev was a bit arrogant when it came to his boxing, ‘but what athlete isn’t cocky?’ Vasquez said. ‘He knew he was good. He was good. So that’s OK. No one’s going to challenge that.’ But about three years ago, Tsnarnaev abruptly dropped off the scene.

He removed his Facebook page. Vasquez no longer saw him around the streets. ‘He kind of disconnected himself,’ Vasquez said. He asked mutual friends if they had seen Tsarnaev, if they knew what he was up to.

Some said they had heard he went back to Russia. But no one had details. No one knew he had married or had a child.

The American dream never arrived for Tamerlan Tsarnaev. His boxing career didn’t work out, nor did his studies at junior college. He was briefly detained by police when a girlfriend complained of violence, but the accusations were dropped.

He married Katherine Russell, a student at Suffolk University from a middle-class Rhode Island background, the daughter of a doctor and a nurse. Katherine converted to Islam and left university without graduating.

They had a daughter, Zahara, now 3. Tamerlan seems never to have found a full-time career. His family members say his new wife supported him, while he stayed home with the child.

{snip}

In the case of Chechens who reached the West after the wars of the 1990s, such problems appear to be particularly acute for men who arrived as young adults, said author Oliver Bullough, who has spent years researching the Chechen diaspora.

Chechen culture encourages male bravado, something that has helped Chechens keep their identity through generations of oppression in Russia but which may make some Chechen men particularly prone to feelings of alienation.

‘A Chechen man has, I think, a higher sense of self-worth than the average other man in Russia. It’s a proud culture. And being in a situation where you are one of life’s losers is particularly hard,” said Bullough.

Tamerlan returned to Dagestan in 2012, where his mother and father had relocated after splitting up. Family members there who had not seen him for years were surprised by his new interest in religion.

His mother now speaks proudly of his apparent religious awakening, and says she does not believe he would have been capable of the Boston attacks.

‘He changed when he started practicing Islam. He would read all the time,’ she said. ‘He had started going to nightclubs, but ever since I said to him that ‘You are a Muslim, you should not do such things, they are haram’, he became more religious,” she told Reuters in English in Makhachkala.

{snip}

‘I don’t think he was interested in friendships,’ his mother said, adding that he followed lessons online in the Koran to try and understand it in its original Arabic. ‘He was reading, always in front of the computer – he was taking classes on the Koran,’ she said. ‘He was very interested. He didn’t want to read it in translation. He said, ‘Mama it’s very difficult, but I want to do this’. He really wanted to get into the true reading of the Koran,’ she said. ‘I was happy about that.’

Like other Chechens, the Tsarnaev brothers would have been steeped in the history of their people, including the two wars waged by Russian forces in Chechnya during their childhood in the 1990s, in which tens of thousands of civilians were killed.

As children, they never lived in the war zone itself: they attended a school in Makhachkala in neighboring Dagestan, a scruffy provincial capital 250 km (160 miles) from the Chechen frontier. Now, when Tamerlan returned to Dagestan a decade after Russian President Vladimir Putin had crushed the separatist movement in Chechnya, a smaller Islamist insurgency had shifted from Chechnya to Dagestan itself.

He would arrive in a city far more religious than the one he had left, and also more violent. Veils and enveloping Islamic dress are increasingly replacing mini-skirts and high heels. Few cafes or stores now sell alcohol, fearing attacks by militants from an energized sect of strict Islamists known as Salafists, who have their own media outlets, charities and even a soccer club. Shootings and bombings are daily occurrences.

{snip}

Youths from Dagestani villages who join the insurgency are said to ‘go into the forest’. It is not clear if Tamerlan ever went to join them, although some in the region dismiss the prospect as highly unlikely on the grounds that fighters would have been reluctant to trust a man just off a plane from Boston.

U.S. officials have said Russian security services asked the FBI about Tamerlan in early 2011 out of concern he had embraced radical Islam and was going to travel to Russia to join underground groups. FBI agents interviewed him in Massachusetts in 2011 but found no serious reason for alarm.

{snip}

He seems to have returned to the United States with firm views about Islam, unafraid to challenge authority figures for being insufficiently pious.

Since around the time he returned to Massachusetts he began attending services at the Islamic Society of Boston mosque in Cambridge. He made frequent appearances at Friday afternoon prayer, at times arriving before sunrise–sometimes with his younger brother in tow–for dawn services, said Anwar Kazmi, a member of the mosque’s board of trustees.

Members of the congregation vividly remember Tamerlan interrupting the Friday sermon three months ago before the weekend of the U.S. national holiday marking the birthday of civil rights leader Martin Luther King, a Christian preacher. The imam urged the congregation to learn from the examples of both King and the Prophet Mohammad.

Apparently outraged by the comparison between the prophet and a non-Muslim, Tamerlan stood up and shouted ‘kafir’–infidel–at the imam. He then called the imam a ‘munafiq’, or hypocrite, Kazmi said. The congregation, several hundred strong, responded by shouting at Tamerlan to leave if he didn’t like the sermon, Kazmi said. Afterward, elders sat down with Tamerlan and explained that he had committed a serious breach of etiquette with his outburst.

‘He seemed to understand,’ Kazmi said–and continued to worship at the mosque, never again expressing such rage. {snip}

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  • Puggg

    “The radicalization of Tamerlan Tsarnaev”

    IOW, they’re trying to find a way to make this our fault, or at least not their fault.

    • The__Bobster

      “Speed Bump” was already a rotten bastard.

      http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/tamerlan_abused_his_future_wife_W09P2vStUM749J2kyUs5nO

      Tamerlan abused his future wife, say pals
      By FRANK ROSARIO and REUVEN
      FENTON Post Correspondents
      Last Updated: 7:51 AM, April 24, 2013
      Posted: 1:04 AM, April 24, 2013

      NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI — Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev showed off his vicious nature by verbally and physically abusing his future wife, it was revealed yesterday.

      Former college roommates of Katherine Russell — Tsarnaev’s 24-year-old widow — told National Public Radio that the brutish pugilist would cruelly taunt his then-girlfriend, calling her a “slut’’ and “prostitute,” while the couple was dating.

      Tsarnaev even tossed furniture and other objects at Russell during his violent rages, they said.

      • ArabFreeAmerica

        Is it even remotely possible that she was one? Why yes, I think it is.

      • Kathy M

        That poor race traitor. How terrible.

        • Dimitri Isakov

          Its pretty bad to so completely forsake your own race, convert to an alien religion, have the Euro/Arab’s child, support him, and then get slapped around for it. His love for her was boundless.

          • women are sweet and forgiving by nature. god created them that way. I feel sorry for her.

          • Hage

            Europeans have extensive Arab blood, from the days when Semites colonized Europe from the fertile crescent mixed with native europeans. that is where the bearded european look comes from.

      • kerrysmith

        What a monster. I’d have been happy to run him over myself.

      • Nate Miller

        There is something noteworthy in this article. It seems a lot of pretty women, and I would dare to even state most attractive young women tend to marry or go after the bad boy and even end up marrying them despite suffering physical or verbal assaults! And, yet the nice, decent, hard working and intelligent guy who plays the nice sweet guy who could never harm a fly gets dished out as undesirable. There must be something wrong with this world. I see a lot of really nice, decent young men who would otherwise fawn and treat women so well still single unable to get girls. Seriously, whats with this recessive nature in most if not all attractive girls?

        As the saying goes: Good chicks dig the bad guys! That explains why so many big muscular black thugs get very beautiful blonde blue eyed white girls of impressionable backgrounds while the highly educated, “nerdy”, law abiding, harmless and sweet respectable white or Asian boy is left in the dirt by our society!

        • pcmustgo

          Excuse me, MOST women do not chase bad boys. You just don’t want the “girl next door” , ok looking types. I am a reforming bad boy chaser myself.

          I know plenty , plenty of not so great looking white and other guys who have girlfriends and wives. Ditto for women.

          • pcmustgo

            It probably is a lot of prettier/more attractive women that date more attractive “bad boys”. Super attractive men are either gay or know how hot they are and know they can play the field.

          • pcmustgo

            Attractive women feel entitled to attractive men… unless they are poor, in which case they go for whomever has the most money.

  • The__Bobster

    Maybe the taxpayers didn’t pay enough for the terrorists’ educations.

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/taxpayers-spend-25737-per-pupil-on-bomb-brothers-public-school

    Taxpayers Spend $25,737 Per Pupil On Bomb Brothers’ Public School
    By Steve Sailer on April 24, 2013 at 12:45am

    From Boston Magazine:

    Boston’s Best Schools 2012: Top of the Class
    By Patrick Doyle (ed) | Boston Magazine | September 2012

    Highest Per-Pupil Spending (by District)

    1. Minuteman High School $28,962
    2. Cambridge Rindge & Latin School $25,737
    3. Blue Hills Regional Technical School $20,948
    4. Norfolk County Agricultural High School $20,380
    5. Waltham High School $18,960

  • Secret Tribunal

    Hatred of Saint MLK must be the only Chechen virtue.

    • Nate Miller

      Hatred of MLK is the virtue of bigotted idiots, Chechens or otherwise! MLK was not perfect, but he certainly was a great man!

      • He was a scumbag, just a Jewish-controlled Trojan Horse to fool whites.

      • Secret Tribunal

        OMG! There is no place for MLK worship here. You aren’t welcome. Go away. Troll alert.

      • HamletsGhost

        He was a liar, a a pompous hypocrite, a plagiarist and he slept with other men’s wives.

        He was also rather stupid, as his GRE scores indicate.

        Just what was so great about him?

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    Apparently outraged by the comparison between the prophet and a non-Muslim

    He objected to the mention of Mike King for all the wrong reasons. All he knew about King was that he was supposedly a “Christian” and an “advocate of non-violence,” neither of which was really true. King adopted both poses merely as a form of politically astute posturing. One might ask some of the women he mistreated what King really thought about non-violence.

  • 48224

    If all the different news stories I have hear are correct….
    1. They both attended US colleges getting financial aid
    2. One drove a Mercedes
    3. The one driving the Mercedes (the dead one) did not work and had a wife working 70 hours per week doing home care AND they were collecting welfare.
    4. The dead brother had a wife and a girlfriend.
    ….are they sure these two guys aren’t black?

    • pcmustgo

      Third World values… I had a black roommate who earned 30k at a bad job and drove a leased Mercedes…

      Immigrants are also into “flashy” stuff.

      • Jefferson

        Driving a Mercedes on a 30k a year salary, talk about ghetto hood rich living way beyond her or his means. I personally know people who make over 100k a year that do not even drive a Mercedes. One of them drives a Prius.

        Being frugal or living within your means is a mostly Asian and White thing.

    • pcmustgo

      “The American dream never arrived for Tamerlan Tsarnaev. His boxing career didn’t work out, nor did his studies at junior college. He was briefly detained by police when a girlfriend complained of violence, but the accusations were dropped.

      He married Katherine Russell, a student at Suffolk University from a middle-class Rhode Island background, the daughter of a doctor and a nurse. Katherine converted to Islam and left university without graduating.

      They had a daughter, Zahara, now 3. Tamerlan seems never to have found a full-time career. His family members say his new wife supported him, while he stayed home with the child.”

      Hmmm, wasn’t the girlfriend half Portuguese? She got some muslim, north african blood in her yet! Let me guess, her Portuguese mother was the nurse.

      I’m shocked an upper-middle class girl would actually behave this way. Have sex with him and Blacks, yes… Get pregnant at that age , no.

      • jackryanvb

        A high percentage of women always go for rough boxer types. The moral of this subject is Whites need to get back in to boxing. It works for Russians and Ukranians who have dominated boxing for the last 10 years.

  • bigone4u

    While sociologists might find the story of Tamerlan’s radicalization interesting and useful in profiling future terrorists, my interests are more practical. Like, can we end Muslim immigration and deport as many as possible? You and I know the answer, which is no, that would be racist. Both Republicans and Democrats need to be hounded to death until they change their minds about immigration. The life you save may be your own.

    • pcmustgo

      Form an anti-immigration party and I will gladly vote them in.

  • dd121

    Our leftists are joining arm-in-arm to proclaim that just because they confessed to being motivated by Islamic Jihad we shouldn’t jump to any conclusions that they were in fact influenced in their attacks by Islam. How willfully blind can they be? It’s pure evil from our left and the Jihadists. Get over it msnbc it wasn’t done by conservatives or the Tea Party.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      I’m sure there are some OK muzzies, generally adherents of sects considered heretical by mainline muzzies (like some Sufis, Alawites and Alevis), but…

      I really don’t care. I think most are like this…

      http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/dispatches-undercover-mosque/

      This was my wake-up call some years back which began a process which has led me here. Muslim kitman is a profound threat to any society that lets them in. They preach hatred and Sharia law and destruction of all non-Muslim societies when they close the doors and then LIE without shame outside, duping naive cumbaya’ers and stupid liblefty traitors ( a hypocritical, hate filled group themselves) alike.

      Encourage anyone who has doubts about the True nature of the “religion of peace” to watch this and check it out yourself lest any shred of decency impel you to give any of them the benefit of the doubt…

      Undercover Mosque

  • Pelagian

    This is a liberal cleric trying to link arms with MLK. The same thing that goes on in the Catholic Church. The brother was right to say something. Every religious person of any stripe should be offended in that circumstance. A broke clock is still right twice 2 times per day.

  • ArabFreeAmerica

    I think I’ll side with the Russians in these matters from now on.

    • jackryanvb

      Very good. I’m proud to say I’m 25% Russian, lots of Germanic/Nordic blood in Russia, but also some solid Slavic Russian blood. This Russian blood seems to have immunized me from all sorts of idiotic, traitorous liberal/libertarian nonsense regard NW Muslim terrorists, immigration invaders.

      Go Russians!

      PS. If I am ever interrogated by some Russian KGB (what do they call their secret service now?) female officer who looks like Anna Kournikova – I’ll talk, renounce all allegiance to the US Constitution, American women (not counting Courtney From Alabama).

      • Puggg

        Very good. I’m proud to say I’m 25% Russian, lots of Germanic/Nordic
        blood in Russia, but also some solid Slavic Russian blood. This Russian
        blood seems to have immunized me from all sorts of idiotic…

        I’m part Eastern European, but you just provided your own answer, and it’s even simpler than “Russian.” You are ethnically aware and self-aware, and white people who are ethnically aware tend to be (but aren’t always) racially aware, and white people who are racially aware don’t want their country teeming with non whites. White people who aren’t ethnically aware tend to fall for ideologies and ideological explanations to things.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    I don’t understand why Speed Bumpaev was so vehement against Martin Luther King. Didn’t King also like beating up white hookers?

    • kerrysmith

      She was fetchin’
      He was Chechen
      And kept her in the kitchen
      For when he was itchin’
      But she’ll no more bend over
      ‘Cause now he’s–run over.

  • Jefferson

    Liberals at The Huffington Post seem even more upset that Tamerlan was not a fan of MLK, than they are that he killed innocent civilians in a terrorist attack.

    Which is not surprising because to liberals, being a racist is by far the worst thing in the world that you can be. In their eyes being a racist is even worst than being a terrorist or a child rapist.

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      In a 1992 interview with Robert K. Ressler, Jeffrey Dahmer insisted that he wasn’t racist. Ressler wrote: “He (Dahmer) also wanted to set the record straight that he was not a racist. He says that the reason for the majority of his victims being a minority was simple location. Where he lived there was high concentration of Black and Hispanic people. He stresses that is was a simple location thing, and that he hopes ‘I hope that can get cleared up.'” Cannibal? YES! Racist? NEVER!

      • pcmustgo

        He did murder a few whites. He lived in a ghetto, which is a lot more tolerant of weird behavior or unnoticing. Blacks were probably more willing to have sex on the first night kind of thing. He hung out a gay clubs and had a bad rep. He probably lived in that Black ghetto (which most white gays probably wouldn’t want to go to… although there are white gay men who love under-age black boys, don’t get me wrong), because he was a total failure , getting fired from jobs a lot. Minimum wage jobs. So he needed somewhere cheap to stay.

        • Jefferson

          I am surprised Jeffrey Dahmer never got AIDS/HIV from having unprotected anal sex with lower income Black males.

          The vast majority of lower income Black males from the inner city do not wear a condom during sex. That is why they have so many kids with different women.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    If you read the American media reports, Islam had absolutely nothing to do with the bombings, they were typical American kids and therefore “homegrown terrorists” reacting to an unwelcoming American society.

    The bomber made his choice and suffered the consequences.

    NEXT!!

    Bon

    • HamletsGhost

      They did the same thing when Baruch Goldstein gunned down all those praying at the tomb of the patriarch in Hebron in 1994. The immediate reaction from his family was to blame his going postal on his American upbringing, not on his very pious Talmudic learning that made him hate all Arabs with such homicidal passion.

  • bigone4u

    Amren followers will want to pause and reflect even more when Dzhokhar begins to receive hundreds of messages from female admirers, most of them young white American females pledging their undying love for him. The touseled-haired young matinee idol is going to be defended in a way that is going to make many of us sit down and cry as we ponder just what the hell has happened to our women. Even now, the Internet is alive with “free jahar” messages that express the love sentiment.

    • Xerxes22

      Dzhokhar must be the replacement for Justin Bieber. Justin has been receiving some some bad press lately and his tweenie girl fans need a new idol.

  • Seb

    Can Mohammed be compared to Martin Luther King, Jr? An Objective Analysis by Seb.

    QUALITY 1: ORIGINALITY

    MLK: Practiced plagiarism from his college days to his death.

    Mohammed: Formed Islam by bastardizing Christian, Jewish, and Arab pagan beliefs, and insisted his creation was an original revelation from God.

    ADVANTAGE: TIE

    QUALITY 2: CHASTITY

    MLK: Used prostitutes throughout many of his campaigns to demonize White society. This would not be normal behavior for a “Christian” minister.

    Mohammed: As a 50 year old man, had intercourse with a 9 year old girl. This was not remarkable in 7th century Arabia.

    ADVANTAGE: TIE

    QUALITY 3: CAPABILITY

    MLK: Mostly a puppet for his handlers, especially Stan Levison.

    Mohammed: Although he did get some wealth through his first wife, he led many successful military campaigns against larger forces and ended up conquering a good portion of the earth during his life.

    ADVANTAGE: MOHAMMED

    CONCLUSION: Tamerlane was right, MLK can’t be compared to Mohammed.

  • they have a few good qualities

    Muslims have their better qualities and not afraid to be pc incorrect like the cowardly white race to defend his anti hero against the MLK freak so you have to give them credit for a few things and this includes standing up against liberal scum.

    It is hilarious to watch liberal Boston whine like babies over a few dead while the city goes through a paralysis. These are the same white liberals and faggots who spew venom at the south and conservatives calling them racist bigots but ironically home of the original Tea Party in 1775. Muslims still kill faggots so that is another good quality.

  • inside government job?

    What this a government setup to show gun owners across America who is in charge as 5 million in Boston and metro go on lock down as thousands of local state federal police take charge as Homeland Security and Obama wanted with Feinstein etc/?

    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=814

  • pcmustgo

    I can tell you how I became “radicalized”- endless horrible , hurtful and/or disapointing experiences with various non-white ethnic groups.

  • You wusses are just envious of the brothers. Tamerlan said NO to MLK. But most white Americans, libs and cons, worship that scum MLK.

  • You suckers need to read this:

    http://www.revisionisthistory.org/revisionist23.html

    “White Backlash Against Islam is Sucker’s Game”

    Wake up, fools.

  • jackryanvb

    Unappreciative NW Muslim immigrants who are welcomed in to Western societies, given all kinds of benefits, welfare, access to our schools, put around welcoming DIVERSITY centers, Islamic community outreach centers – and they still fail, become bitter losers and join radical terrorist organizations to mass murder regular Whites in the US, England, Sweden (also Russia) – these terrible people are:

    THE PERFECT PROPAGANDA ENEMY.

    Virtually all Whites in the West from Left (Geert Wilders, Pym Fortuyn, women’s rights, gay rights) to the Nationalist, Populist, Conservative Whites – all fear and hate these NW Muslim invaders.

    We would have to be complete and utter fools not to use this propaganda gift. But, understand that the hard core American WN “Movement” is filled with fools, idiots, loners, nutcases, conspiracy mongering mental cases that insist that mass Muslim immigration isn’t really a big issue, as everything bad is controlled by some “inside job”, or we deserve to be terrorized, murdered or women forced in to prostitution because of some national sin we once did to some NW Muslim people.

    • Puggg

      …that insist that mass Muslim immigration isn’t really a big issue…

      That mentality comes from the mentality that “the Joos are egging us on to hate Muslims.” From what I see, it’s just the opposite, that most organized Jewish groups are trying to keep us from “hating” (really, having sane and proper suspicion) of Muslims.

  • pcmustgo

    “Last March, for instance, he used the hashtag #chechnyanpower and then wrote: ‘a decade in America already, I want out’.”

    Like the hashtag ChechnyanPower doesn’t say anything….Nothing odd about that. But then again, in our diverse america , everyone’s always all about “their people” and such, so not much different than what blacks, latinos, “desis” and asians do.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      “A decade in America already, I want out.”

      If he wanted out, nobody was preventing Tamerlan from leaving. This is as if I had said “Three and a half decades in Colorado already, I want out.” Instead of blowing folks up or crying in my beer, I’d start looking for a place to move us. He could have gone to work in Saudi as a foreign contractor and made a nice pile of money which would have opened his options quite a bit. Dzhokar could have cowboyed-up and stopped running almost straight “F” grades in college.

      Rebels without a clue: The older one not only got himself killed and let his wife and kid down, he talked his (apparently) impressionable younger brother into a disaster that will likely see him executed as well.

      I have good reason to be annoyed at the US government as well, but I did a lot of grocery-shopping and even more woodworking today instead of hating innocent strangers. I found more of a Chinese hot & sour ramen we all liked last December, but had run out of. The packaging had changed quite a bit, but I could tell approximately that the noodles were made of sweet potato flour, and made oyster & nori soup with this, using lots of home-grown chives, which now seem to be going berserk. I used more chives in the tossed salad. I didn’t blow anyone’s arms or legs off today and thoroughly enjoyed a beautiful afternoon.

      Tamerlan Speedbumpaev wanted out; we didn’t need him, and he took the final hike.

      But why? Obviously we were not going to change our civilization for these two losers, however much shock they felt at the understanding that Western Civilization works quite nicely without Muzzies.

      • Pelagian

        “A decade in America already, I want out.”
        Well, he’s a smart lad. America *is* an incoherent mess. But it’s *our* incoherent mess. Muslims and other foreigners need to get out and let us solve this problem ourselves alone.