Racist ‘Retail Redlining’ Is Still a Big Problem in America

Emily Badger, Business Insider, April 18, 2013

David Mekarski, the village administrator for the south Chicago suburb of Olympia Fields, told a startling story this week at the American Planning Association’s annual conference about a debate he recently had with a restaurant official.

Why, he wanted to know, wouldn’t quality restaurants come to his mixed-race community, where the average annual household income is $77,000, above the county average?

The reply: “Black folks don’t tip, and so managers can’t maintain a quality staff. And if they can’t maintain a quality staff, they can’t maintain a quality restaurant.”

A gasp then rippled through the room in front of Mekarski. “This is one of the most pervasive and insidious forms of racism left in America today,” he says.

There’s a term for the phenomenon he’s describing: retail redlining. The practice is a more recent and less studied variation on redlining as it’s been historically recognized in the housing sector. In the context of retail, grocery stores, and restaurants, redlining refers to the “spatially discriminatory practice” of not serving certain communities because of their ethnic or racial composition, rather than their economic prospects.

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Olympia Fields and three adjacent south suburbs wanted to better understand this phenomenon (and if it really existed). So they undertook a quarter-of-a-million dollar, multi-year study in conjunction with researchers at the University of Illinois. In the 1960s, these four suburbs had almost no black residents.

By 2010, 72 percent of the population was black, with three of the communities having above-average income levels for the county. These are among the most racially mixed higher-income communities in the region. {snip}

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The researchers tried to approach a seemingly immeasurable question (is there racial bias here?) by examining case studies of retail outlets that had recently left these communities; by studying stores that one would expect to find in these places based on their buying power; and by comparing the quality and variety of merchandise in stores in this area compared to identical brands elsewhere.

The researchers concluded that the location decisions of businesses were so complicated (involving varied property tax rates, the co-location of related retail, and the presence of daytime workers) that their demographic and survey data was inconclusive. “However,” the researchers wrote, “findings do suggest that race may be a driver or mitigating factor in some retail decisions.”

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  • No we don’t have a problem with retail redlining we have a problem with a black culture that encourages stealing. Instead of a culture that demands, “Stop Snitching”, blacks need to demand that their own people “Stop stealing” if they want to live in civilized communities with full commercial access to American retail businesses.

    • IstvanIN

      I was told Macy’s Jamaica Queens was closed due to shoplifting.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Dillards and Macy’s at Rivergate Mall in North Nashville once refused to allow blacks to enter their store because of theft.

        • robinbishop34

          Union Station, St. Louis Galleria, Crestwood Plaza… all ‘enriched,’ and then all shut down.

        • I did not know this. I live in Murfreesboro and I remember what happened to Hickory Hollow mall after stores moved out and it closed.

      • Morris LeChat

        All downtown department stores in AMerica have been hit hard by black shoplifters. The demise of the downtown shopping districts and department store chains can be laid directly at the feet of blacks. Hudson’s of Detroit is a good illustration of this. here is a snippet from the wikipedia article about it:

        “Though customers flocked to the suburban locations, the downtown store still accounted for half of Hudson’s business in 1961 but demographic changes continued to erode sales.[4] Store officials expressed an interest in closing the store as early as 1971 citing $9,000,000 in pilferage but remained citing the potential backlash from city officials and customers[7] but by 1978 agreed to construct a smaller store of 320,000 sq ft (30,000 m2) store as part of a proposed downtown shopping center.”

        “Demographic changes continued to erode sales”- translation- When blacks started coming to the store they walked the merchandise out the doors without paying for it.

        “Store officials expressed an interest in closing the store as early as 1971 citing $9,000,000 in pilferage but remained citing the potential backlash from city officials and customers” -translation- the store owners were AFRAID of being called “racists”. “backlash”-translation- rioting, robbing and looting by the blacks and whites being peer pressured into proving they weren’t racists by refusing to shop there.

        ” by 1978 agreed to construct a smaller store of 320,000 sq ft (30,000 m2) store as part of a proposed downtown shopping center.”– translation- the cowardly white corporate types decided to reduce the size of the store and allow blacks to still shoplift.

        Hudsons eventually closed all it’s stores. The losses of the Detroit location were a heavy burden on the whole business. The cowardly corporate types had pursued a policy of using the suburban locations to subsidize the Detroit location, forcing suburban buyers to essentially pay of the items the blacks in Detroit stole. People pretty much knew this and this probably cost them more in “loyalty” than anything else. The corporate types were not loyal to their customers, they were loyal to their looters. The customers understood this, although none of this was ever really discussed openly. They just went elsewhere paid less and stopped subsidizing the animals. They were free to do that .

  • The__Bobster

    The reply: “Black folks don’t tip, and so managers can’t maintain a quality staff.
    ___________

    They also abuse the help before stiffing them on the tip. That’s if they pay at all. A lot of the mudflaps try to find excuses for not paying.

    • StillModerated

      There’s an IHOP a couple of miles from me, and if you wear a pistol in plain sight, the hostess will seat you next to the noisiest ooking and eeking. They soon clear out. Both me and neighbors have had meals comped for maintaining peace and quiet. Oh, and I tip 20% for mediocre service — but I don’t eat at McDonalds.

      • MBlanc46

        Glad someone mentioned the noise level when blacks are in an establishment.

  • GB101

    The reply: “Black folks don’t tip, and so managers can’t maintain a quality staff. And if they
    can’t maintain a quality staff, they can’t maintain a quality restaurant.”

    This is a wonderful example of a “Washington Gaff.” When someone inadvertently tells the truth.

    • Tim

      I love it! Having worked in education, I wish I had the balls to say something like that.

  • Well, golly gee. Why do blacks have to rely on a white owned business to set up shop in their ‘hood?
    Well, at least the Arabs and Vietnamese aren’t afraid to open a store in the ghetto.

    • Because the rent is cheap and they also have a loaded pistol within reach in the event of a robbery.

      • Strider73

        Except in Chicongo and other places where self-defense is illegal.

        • NM156

          Six more weeks until IL must produce a workable concealed carry law for the Federal courts. Of course, the state legislature is trying to exempt all 11,000,000 people in metro Chicago-the city and collar counties-from obtaining a CCW permit, which of course, would exclude most of the residents of the state. The hilarious contradiction is lost on these idiots. Watching the Federal courts force them to concede their anti-gun laws to the will of the public will be the greatest example of schadenfreude I can imagine.

    • NYB

      The Arabs and Vietnamese know how to cheat the government out of taxes, and will cut corners to do it.

  • IstvanIN

    I have known a number of people who worked as waiters and waitresses and they all say blacks do not tip, including black waiters and waitresses. In addition I have generally heard that Jews are poor tippers and Italian-Americans are excellent tippers.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Blacks often eat part of their meal, then complain and send it back to the kitchen. They then order a second meal. They often walk out without paying their tab.

      Black Bike Week is notorious for blacks destroying communities, property and stiffing restaurants.

      • I remember Freaknik that happened every second or third weekend in April in Atlanta.Thousands of black college students who come into Atlanta and disrupt traffic. One year, they even broke into a Macy’s in a mall that no longer exists and stole Tommy Hilfinger and Fubu clothes. After a few years of this nonsense, the city of Atlanta put traffic restrictions on the event and it stopped.

        • Eric Shun

          “Urban” Beach Weekend is every Memorial Day weekend in Miami Beach. 250,000+ diversities stomp into S. Beach. A few always get shot and killed by the cops. The local residents clear out for a few days and many retail stores close up and batten down the hatches. The hotels and bars can make a profit when their establishments aren’t destroyed. Several hundred cops are brought in from all over S. FL and they kill it overtime!

          • Katherine McChesney

            I read about that. There was an article that the managers of “Urban” Beach were suing the community for shutting down the stores and restaurants. The last I read were that homosexuals were lobbying to shut down the event because of the crime generated by blacks. One of the Carolina cities have problems with black groups destroying their property, theft and brawls in their communities.

            Blacks will never be a civilized race, no matter how much the government tries to help them. They’re just too dumb to understand consequences.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      I drove pizza for over a year after my release from federal prison, and middle-aged blacks with nice homes in the suburbs didn’t tip. Younger blacks with apartments crammed full of expensive-looking consumer electronics didn’t tip. Blacks just don’t tip, even though I suspect plenty of them had food-service jobs at one time or another.

      The best pizza delivery tippers were always poor whites living in trailer parks.

      It costs me $10 to get my hair cut by the gal down the street, who lives in the back of her barber shop. She does an outstanding job, and quite quickly. I always tip her three dollars. It’s not a strain for me, and at the end of a day, steady tips like that will make quite a difference for her.

      • Puggg

        Working class whites of modest means tip pizza delivery drivers the best because they recognize them as fellow working class people who deserve the extra money because they really need it. Surprisingly, well to do whites don’t tip pizza delivery drivers that well, maybe because they’re oblivious.

        • Tim

          I will tip up to 25%…I base it on how hard they’re working and how friendly they are. A lot of stuff is out of their control. I would never dare leave under 15%…unless I have a black server. I leave them next to nothing. After working in food service a long time ago I know blacks don’t tip, so I don’t tip them. They’re usually undeserving for obvious reasons anyway…

          • Matthew

            Hmm..I struggle with that. Seems like an example of sinking down to their level, is it not? I mean if that server did not personally fail to tip you, I don’t see why you should feel obligated not to tip him. Although, on a larger scale, I still fully agree that blacks tend to be awful tippers.

          • Ngati Pakeha

            I totally agree. If someone hustles I’ll tip them well. I always got a laugh how Black service workers would assiduously avoid Black customers. One Black waiter told me it was a real toss up as to what was worse: their incessant complaining, or, the minimal (if any) tip.

          • Tim

            I live in a mostly white suburb. We have blacks and Mexicans at our fast food
            restaurants, but rarely at our sit down establishments. The only time I get black servers is when I visit family members in the Saint Louis area.
            They are rude, slow and embody every stereotype we speak of on
            Amren. If they’re not, you’re 100% right, it is going down to their level, but I’m committed to my racism.

          • saxonsun

            Others who don’t tip well–church folk, whether black or white.

          • Erasmus

            I do not want my food handled by a Mexican or by any other illegal aliens. Chances are they’ve got very poor hygiene, and you can catch some really nasty stuff if Pedro doesn’t wash properly after using the bano. No thanks. My health isn’t worth taking that risk.

          • Morris LeChat

            It’s hard to leave a smaller tip to a black person, but it is becoming easier every day.

          • Katherine McChesney

            I tip 20% whether my server is black or white. I refuse to deny a good waiter or waitress a good tip based on their race. I don’t want to behave the same as a bad tipper.

          • MBlanc46

            I get the theory, but I’m pretty thoroughly conditioned to leave 20%+ unless the server is rude.

        • Morris LeChat

          They also see some poor young white guy at their door and they know that in his line of work, he could be killed at any time. Who wants to be the guy that stiffs young Patrick, or Eddie, or Tommy the night someone else killed him?

      • Katherine McChesney

        I used the word ‘gal’ once in Los Angeles. A feminist crawled all over me for using that term. It’s considered to be a sexist term for women. I don’t like radical feminists but I reasoned to myself that ‘woman’ is a better term to use than ‘gal’. “Guy” is also considered to be a sexist term for men.

        Isn’t the world an interesting place. PC to the hilt. The programming really ramped up back in the 60’s even with the advent of the immoral hippie movement.

        • PesachPatriot

          Gal and guy are now sexist terms? Will men’s and women’s restrooms need to be merged into “gender neutral bladder relief areas” at some point? Gal might be archaic slang at this point but I don’t see how it is offensive to anyone who doesn’t live in Berkeley. I don’t think the hippies were necessarily immoral, but incredibly naive and idealistic….they were right to protest the pointless slaughter in vietnam though, but I disagree with the way they attacked and verbally abused returning soldiers.

    • dogbone

      “In addition I have generally heard that Jews are poor tippers and Italian-Americans are excellent tippers.”

      That is true. I read a study about tippers, and they said the best tippers were mobsters and small business owners. Religious people, politicians, and corporate executives were the worst. They did not define which religion, but from what I have personally witnessed over the last 40 years while eating in restaurants, I would say it is the black baptists and that strange group with the small skull caps that constantly whine and complain.

      • Godwhacker

        You have personally witnessed persons with small skull caps eating in restaurants and either not tipping, or whining and complaining? Your anecdote is bogus: Orthodox Jews do not eat in non-kosher restaurants to begin with. The more modern orthodox ones that do (they would eat fish, vegetables, and dairy) would tend to remove their small skull caps prior to entering and so you would not be able to readily identify them as Jews. Secular Jews (the overwhelming majority) do not wear small skullcaps at all.

        • dogbone

          “Orthodox Jews do not eat in non-kosher restaurants to begin with”

          What makes you think I ate in a non-Kosher restaurant? I live about 300 yards from a synagog in a town that has a very high percentage of jews. I have seen those skull cap jews eating in McDonalds. I do not know if they were orthodox, but they were definitely jewish and they were wearing skull caps or whatever those doilies on their heads are called. Jews insist that every restaurant in this town is Kosher.

          • Katherine McChesney

            yarmulkes

          • PesachPatriot

            The only kosher McDonald’s I have known are in Israel….where I live in florida is one of the densest populations of jews on the east coast outside of metro NYC….there are plenty of non-kosher restaurants…..even in Israel not every restaurant or grocery store is kosher.

      • martin stuart

        youhave not seen people with the small skull caps while you were out eating because people who wear those are to strict to eat in restaurants that are not kosher and those are very rare. you made that up because you are a bigot.

        • dogbone

          Martin, you are a typical hate filled racist anti-white jewish
          supremacists. If anyone tells the truth about your precious kinfolks you
          call them a bigot. You also seem to think that jews can never do
          anything wrong. Now go run to the moderator of this website and have my
          posts deleted because I wrote the truth. Have you seen the website
          called “failed messiah”? Plenty of orthodox jews are listed there that
          have not been so saintly.

          P.S. I forgot to write in my response
          to Godwacker that I have seen young jewish men in college with skull
          caps buy food from the school cafeteria. I do not expect them to tip in
          there, but it shows that they will eat in a restaurant that also serves
          pork. I am sure the school cafeteria was blessed in some way. I also had
          a scull cap jew in my calculus and chemistry class who admitted he ate
          pork. He loved Chinese sweat and sour pork. There were also quite a few
          skull cap wearers that cheated on tests or plagiarized work. One stole
          my lab work, erased my name, and wrote down his. The professor
          recognized my hand writing, and that my name had been erased. When he
          confronted the jew, the jew started screaming about persecution and that
          I had stole his paper (*). If you knew anything about the jewish
          religion you would know that they absolve themselves of any sins on the
          day of atonement (yom kippur). From what I have heard from other jews,
          they take bread, break off a piece for each sin, and cast it in the
          water (lake). After that they are no longer responsible for anything
          wrong they have done in the previous year. One time I watched one jew (a
          non skul cap) with 5 loves of bread.

          (*) Extra credit – who made this statement? “The jew cries out in pain every time he hits you.”

      • saxonsun

        White Christian church groups are notoriously bad tippers.

        • Katherine McChesney

          What a lie. I have been to restaurants with my Protestant church group. We tip 20%. Try being truthful for a change. It might help your self-respect to know you are being honest.

          • saxonsun

            So because your group tips well, I’m lying–how pathetic. Go to the waiter websites and read about these horrible church people. They are extremely well known. Read the book–if you dare–“Nickel and Dimed” by Barbara Ehrenreich. She talks about this group. They leave cards that say “I give God ten percent; why should I give you more? When you accuse someone of lying, you are betraying the fact that you cannot take the truth. Before you post, madam, you should do some research. Of course you have no trouble when groups you don’t like are called bad tippers–that works for you. Hypocrisy to the core.

          • HaroldWesterling

            “I give God ten percent; why should I give you more?”

            Wasn’t that a well known news story a few months ago? The person who left that card was black, so…back to our original point…

      • Katherine McChesney

        I’m a church-going woman and I tip 20% if the service is good. So your slur against ‘religious’ people is a sweeping generalization and a lie.

        • eonic

          So one missing swallow negates an entire summer ?

    • Xerxes22

      The best tippers are blue collar White men. Professional types like lawyers, doctors and buisnessmen are poor tippers. Men overal tip much better than women. Jews are good tippers but they demand high quality service for that tip. Blacks are at the bottom of the tipping world just as they are at the bottom in everything else.

      • Ngati Pakeha

        I use to work in the Moving industry and in my own experience I found Jews to be extremely demanding but having said that they tipped well if you took care of them. You really cannot begrudge that attitude. Our crews, including a couple of Blacks, use to collectively moan when we saw that our customer was Black. An Irish guy and myself (part of a team of three) were not given a tip one day by a Black couple. The real kicker was our Black cohort WAS given a tip when the rest of us weren’t looking. To be fair to my cohort he offered to share the tip even though neither the Irishman or myself took any. A lesson learned I guess.

        • dhs

          Are moving men usually tipped? I never tipped them, or knew of others doing so.

          • Ngati Pakeha

            Most people, not including the aforementioned demographic, did. I certainly didn’t expect it as I thought my hourly rate was pretty good. I worked for a company that attracted a lot of ‘high-end’ business and our guys were all athletic Rugby players and Rowers so we really hussled. Some people didn’t tip and to be honest it was a case of c’est la vie as far as we were concerned. The main point is to illustrate that Blacks RARELY tipped and when they did it was to their fellow brethren. I have to be honest I am from Down Under so I found the whole tipping thing in the US a bit strange. Much like other foreigners I always believed the notion of the poor, benign Black person who had been ‘done in’ by Whitey.

      • Mr Potato

        You’re dead right Xerxes. And I live in Australia. We do not have a ‘tipping custom’ here, but there certainly is a difference in the way certain ‘social groups’ treat the provider of service.
        What you said about the ‘blue collar White men’ is spot-on, they know that we’re doing these jobs because we have to. Professional types (male and female) think you’re a loser because you don’t have a job as good as theirs.

    • gemjunior

      My father always said that all working-class were better tippers than anyone else, even really wealthy people because they KNOW what a day’s work is and have probably worked in some capacity serving at a counter anyway. Jews are the worst tippers by far – in my own experience.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      There was a Mexican regular when I was driving pizza, and he tipped very well. He lived in a small apartment just east of Wal Mart with his wife and little girl, and was probably a certified expert on what it was like to have to work a s**t job. Rich neighborhoods north of C.S. near RamTron were notoriously bad for tips, but we could get lucky if someone’s babysitter had ordered the pizza for the kids she was watching. Mormons were pretty good tippers.

    • Michael Gregory

      The White working class are generally the best tippers, in part because they know the value of work (including how it feels to hold demeaning crap jobs).

    • saxonsun

      Indians are also bad tippers–they think they’re better than everyone else. The best tippers?–gay men.

      • IstvanIN

        Yes, I have heard about the term “Canadian”!

  • Michael_C_Scott

    In addition to not tipping, blacks are responsible for a staggering amount of shoplifting. Businesses stay away when their bottom line suffers too much. Blacks are also notorious for opportunistic rapes, muggings, beat-downs (the “knockout” game) and murders, and white customers and employees to not want to be in business parking lots in “vibrant” areas because of this, especially after dark. This phenomenon is really no different from “white flight” away from entire neighborhoods, and it occurs for precisely the same reason: black lawlessness.

    • Katherine McChesney

      A Kroger in North Nashville shut down a year ago because black employees weren’t ringing up most of the items that blacks had in their shopping carts. Then there was the shoplifting. The store had lost in excess of a million dollars just in one year.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        I recall reading that the only Wal Mart outlet to ever close down was in a black area. Same reason; the store was just too “lossy”.

        • Strider73

          IIRC that was in Tuskegee, AL (mentioned here on AR a few years ago). Shoplifting, employees stealing for themselves and not ringing up friends’ purchases, and more. Supposedly Sam Walton himself traveled to the store incognito and witnessed it all firsthand; he immediately ordered the store shut down, and a day or so later multiple trucks came in overnight and emptied the place (think the Colts fleeing to Indy).

          • June

            That’s a true story. Walton had the store completely emptied before the next day because he feared there would be a riot and looting.

      • ncpride

        That’s called ‘sliding’……. They slide the product over the scanner, but intentionally miss the barcode, thus not charging the ‘customer’ but gives the appearance they are ringing them up. Unless there is a vigilant floor manager, they can get away with this for months, costing the store thousands, with just one thief….um, cashier.

        • Vanga

          That is why some stores (e.g., Best Buy, warehouse stores) make you show your receipt when you exit the store.

          • Same thing with Sam’s Club and Costco.

          • Vanga

            DUH! What did you think I meant by WAREHOUSE STORES!?

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          • NM156

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          • NeanderthalDNA

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          • Puggg

            Except that method would be impractical in food/supermarket type situations where you often have lots of items and a long receipt.

          • Morris LeChat

            well, if they are sliding and not scanning, then it would be instantly noticeable. A basket full of groceries and a one inch receipt. They do not need to check each item, just see if things have been rung up.

          • Puggg

            In that case, the the crooked checker wouldn’t slide a large percentage of the items, only a few items, especially expensive items.

          • Morris LeChat

            Perhaps, but then it would not be too difficult to keep tabs on a suspected cashier if one has a camera and someone in observation room who is communicating with the person at the door through an earpiece. He could tell the door security to check the receipt for “X” .

          • Puggg

            Sure it’s doable. But at some point the schemes to catch, prevent and deter shoplifting and other stealing scams will become so complicated that you’ll hear over the supermarket intercom: “Rube Goldberg, report to the front, please.”

          • MikeofAges

            A supermarket can be set up to discourage shoplifting. Certain ones are. These produce what I call a “self-selected” customer group of people who accept the small inconveniences in return for the lower prices. When security needs become too large, however, the system just breaks down. Who is going to go to a store where there are screaming people in handcuffs and police cars in the parking lot, with the appurtenant mob scenes going on? The answer is no one, and the store will go out of business. Or never go into business in the first place.

            K-Mart, years ago, opened a huge superstore in Oakland, CA, which you could see from freeway. As far as I could tell, its presence was quite valued by the community, but it eventually closed down nevertheless. The reason, I suspect, had a lot to do with security concerns. There was the issue of security inside the store and the parking lot. Then there was the security of the customers after they left the store site. A lot of people without a car or truck in the East Bay. How could they do a little honest shopping after work and then go home on the bus with a package or bag? Or, more to the point, get off the bus and walk home late in the evening?

          • Morris LeChat

            ohhhhhhh, now I understand why they do that, thanks.

        • Funruffian

          Imagine being the P&L Manager in an urban Supermarket.

    • Puggg

      Supermarkets in black areas also suffer a lot of merchandise spoilage: Black will take a choice of meat or something out of a freezer, decide against purchasing it, but not put it back in the freezer section. It sits around and rots.

      Also grazing: Opening bags of snacks and just eating them while “shopping,” and not paying for what they opened.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        I’ve seen them do that with meat. Some poor animal got wasted to produce that, so it seems monstrous to me to let it go bad. Yet they do it.

        • Robert Binion

          When we cosmopolitans have sponged at last all thought of sin, yet that one will remain.

      • NYB

        I’ve seen the grazing.

        Two young black women filled up plastic bags at the bulk food section, and by the time they finished shopping they had nibbled away the contents. They discarded the empty bags onto the floor before they reached the checkout.

        • JDInSanDiego

          I’ve seen it too. I used to work at an east coast suburban store where lots of them shopped because they had burned and looted all their city stores in the 60’s. They would stand at the grapes or the candy and feed for a while. They would show up at my register with an apple core among their groceries. I used to tell them “These are sold by weight…so I’ll just weigh one of your uneaten ones twice.” One time I went to lift up a jar of pickles only to find the top loose because they couldn’t wait. I spilled the whole thing all over the scanner and belts. After I finished ringing up an order and started bagging, while the whole family watched slack jawed, one of them would often start scanning something over and over. I would ask them how many times they wanted to pay for it.

          • Asterion

            They’re attracted to beeps and shiny lights.

          • ozamataz

            As long as those lights are’nt on a police car!

          • Erasmus

            Typical water buffalo behavior.

          • The Final Solution

            I’m sure most of them were using food stamps so it don’t matter how many times it be scanned. You should have asked ‘how many times do you want taxpayers to pay for it?’ But of course they don’t care because EBT cards come from da envelope which come in da mailbox but how do it get there? nobody know.

      • Grazing became a huge problem in Chicago ….. Starting in November 2008.

        I literally walked into another world in the supermarket the following weekend.

      • Grazing.

      • saxonsun

        Or sampling the produce to see if it’s fresh and subjecting the rest of us to their filthy hands.

      • Erasmus

        Latinos do that, too. The cholos are always sampling from the self-help bulk bins at my grocery store. It’s disgusting.

    • America First

      Opportunistic, predatory, parasitic.

    • NM156

      But this low-crime, high per-capita income Black suburb defies inner-city characteristics. R&B singer and water sports medalist R. Kelley has a home in Olympia Fields, and Rev. Jeremiah Wright, as in Jeremiah “God damn America” Wright, who refuses to live in the jungle where he preaches, lives in a nearby suburb, which along with Olympia Fields comprises middle-class Black suburbia in metro Chicago. Businesses, particularly big chain retailers, cannot afford to operate in areas with small populations that are able to buy what they are selling. Therefore, the Black underclass must lurk within the retailers’ demographic zone of profitability. Olympia Fields’ Black middle class population is not enough to sustain retailers and chain restaurants.

      • I don’t play golf or even know what the membership of the country club looks like:

        In 2011, Olympia Fields hosted the 63rd United States Girls’ Junior Championship and in 2015, the tradition will continue with the playing of the 115th United States Amatuer Championship, after which Olympia Fields will join only eight other American clubs – including Winged Foot, Oakland Hills and Cherry Hills – that have hosted the United States Open Championship (1928, 2003) the United States Senior Open Championship (1997), the PGA Championship (1925, 1961) and the United States Amateur Championship (2015).

      • White Mom in WDC

        Wasn’t Wright’s daughter recently charged with fraud?

    • saxonsun

      They also like to eat half of their meals, then claim something was wrong with them to get credit.

  • joegoofinoff

    Years ago, I was working in a bad section of Brooklyn and I went into a super market that also had a cafeteria and the entire store was No Frills products. Remember the pakaging was White with black block lettering? They even had no frills beer and cigarettes, cereal, everthing. I was amazed. It was the only store of any type in the neighborhood. I decided not to eat.

    • They had those in the commissaries on military bases. The radio advertisement was unclear, so I used to think the announcer was calling them “no thrill generics” instead of “no frill”.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Vons had those generics….white box with simple blue lettering. That was four years ago. Don’t know if they have it now. Vons closed down their largest store in Santa Monica and I moved back to my home state. Haven’t seen generics in Kroger.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      I think those “generic” products have gone the way of the dinosaur. They have become store brands instead. The old Kroger store brand was “Topco”, if I recall correctly; now it’s just “Value” or “Kroger”, depending on the product. At Wal Mart, it’s “Great Value”.

      A lot of these inexpensive products are made by the same companies that produce name brands. I remember a recall of peanut butter due to salmonella contamination which involved Skippy and several other brands. The reason was that all of these batches of peanut butter had been produced at the same plant on the same equipment. Another example is salsa at Costco. All of the brands: Jack’s, Chachie’s, the unfortunately discontinued Meza, and the rest come in precisely the same container; I suspect they’re made at the same plant.

      If these products are made at the same plants, why are the store brands cheaper? Simple; you’re not paying for all the advertising.

  • The__Bobster

    The only stores that open in the Philly ghettos are receiving gubmint grants to do so. When the money runs out, so will they.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      These are called “enterprise zones”, and recently-arrived immigrants tend to fall for this trap. In the 1980s it was Koreans, later it was Assyrian and Lebanese Christians, and now it seems to be Muslim Arabs.

      Native North Americans who actually understand blacks don’t think the tax breaks and other gibs me dats are worth it.

  • sbuffalonative

    Before blacks and Hispanics moved into my community, my neighborhood grocery story didn’t employ security.

    • Funruffian

      Hispanics, especially the gang-chollo types, can be intimidating at times. I always manage to get along with them without trouble. However, I am most apprehensive around the majority of Blacks.

  • Puggg

    The only way a big box or prominent retailer can survive and make a profit in the ghetto is if the local governments bribe them to come, either directly or by way of not charging them types of taxes they would otherwise have to pay.

    • But still the amount of theft by both customers and employees would not make up for the tax advantages a city or state would offer them.

    • MBlanc46

      I’m not keen on subsidizing black opportunities to steal.

  • guest

    Weren’t accusations of “redlining” by mortgage lenders behind the housing debacle? Blacks were high-risk (that is, shown to be unlikely to pay back what they owed) and so banks hesitated in lending to them. White taxpayers took care of that problem by forking over for the back loans. Maybe we should fix the retain-store problem in similar fashion. The federal government should force white people to finance restaurants in black neighborhoods. That’ll fix things right up.

    • HaroldWesterling

      Hey don’t laugh…there are probably plans just like that being drawn up in Congress as we speak.

  • Northwoodsman

    In Las Vegas a few years ago, a major gorcery chain opened a supermarket in the heart of the black section of west Las Vegas. Within a short period of time, an eight foot wrought iron fence went up around the entire property and within a year, they gave up and closed the store. They were being decimated by shoplifters and theft by store employees.

    • LOL. There is fence around one of my regularly visited supermarkets in Chicago, plus cart fences. The other I only fences in the carts. I have no idea how fat people get through them, unless that is the reason for the “security guard”.

    • KevinPhillipsBong

      “NEW ORLEANS — As a boy, Wendell Pierce dreamed of leaving his hometown one day for the world stage. Today, the veteran actor with global credits has returned on a mission: rebuilding neighborhoods, brick by brick, aisle after aisle.”
      http://dailynightly.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/02/17571711-food-for-thought-an-actors-new-role-in-the-grocery-store?lite

      We ALL know how this story will end…but no one will believe us.

  • rebellisMMXII

    Anyone that has or known someone who has waited tables know that black ‘customers’ are the “kiss of death”…abuse, crazy complicated orders, and no tip..

    • bigone4u

      It’s well known that blacks in the kitchen spit in the food of whites. My Hispanic girlfriend at the time worked in an extremely upscale restaurant in San Antonio. When blacks walked in, the server who was lowest on the totem pole was assigned to serve them because of the issues you raise. However, I’ll add that she told me the Hispanic cooks would spit in the food served to the blacks. There’s kind of a balancing out in the scales of justice to this story as disgusting as it is.

      • Jesse_from_Sweden

        Kind of like how they balance things out in the interracial crime statistics, eh?

        Blacks attacking hispanics means hispanics are a victim group and there is one count of black attacks and one count of hispanic victimization.
        But when hispanics attack blacks, hispanics are not a offender group, so there is one count of WHITE attacks and one count of black victimization.

        Which in the end make it look like whites are guilt of interracial attacks against blacks and blacks and hispanics are victims of white violence.

      • gemjunior

        LOLLLLLLLL that reminds me so much of the stuff we used to do at my old job (in my late teens and so was everyone else so you can imagine) whenever black customers came in we would suck our teeth and say “Ahm awn mah brrraaake” while they would go “Git sumbody else den!”. This was in the mid eighties and believe it or not, you could get away with it then without a lawsuit or being in the papers the next day. It was great to see the movie “Waiting” because of the things you mentioned. Of course they were doing it to other whites. Actually one of the few movies without any blacks, just young white comedians and a NY Puerto Rican who is actually funny but hard to look at…..

      • edie

        that is partially why I have become such a good cook at home.
        add the spitting part with that NC pizza worker who youtubed himself rubbing pizza additions (mushrooms, onions etc) over all parts of his naked body………….
        that did it for me……….. I trust no one except friends and family to prepare or be around my food………..

    • Joseph Litz

      I have a rather unusual story:

      I was working in a retail store that specialized in custom gifts while I was in college and one day this 40-something-year-old black woman from some African country came in and I had to help her out and try to sell her stuff. She started ordering all this luxurious junk and then ordered like 20 customizations like engraving and stuff.

      The prices of all these things were no big secret, nor was the fact that this store was an expensive store.

      Nevertheless, she had me ring her up for all the stuff she ordered and — no surprise — it came out to be like $500.

      She flipped out on me, yelling at me more viciously than I had ever been yelled at by anyone in my entire life (and I had worked retail jobs for a while in busy areas while in high school). She ordered me around, having me recalculate the order, had me go get my manager. And to top it all off, she was dumb as a brick and couldn’t follow me when I did simple arithmetic for her to show her exactly how it was that what she ordered on her own will added up to what it … costed. And the more she couldn’t understand, the more she would scream at me and order me around.

      So, eventually she cut down her order and paid for it, never apologizing — all the while I had to remain polite to her.

      But she had to come back because her order was being customized.

      While she was gone, my assistant manager started having labor contractions. The two of us were the only people in the store.

      Eventually she collapsed on the floor and couldn’t walk anymore. So, I walked over to the front door, and closed the door (it was in the mall so the door was always open), putting up a sign that we were closed. But I didn’t lock the door.

      My manager called her father to come to her, and when he got there we decided that she wasn’t going to be able to walk out of the store. So I called an ambulance.

      While the paramedics were responding that black woman returned to pick up her stupid junk. Seeing that the store was closed, she immediately began banging on the glass. Then she tore the door open, kicked down the sign I had put up and started coming after me again, yelling “WHY IS THIS DOOR CLOSED! WHERE IS MY ORDER! WHERE IS MY ORDER!”

      I told “GET OUT OF HERE NOW! THE STORE IS CLOSED, I CLOSED THE STORE! GET OUT!”

      What did she do?

      She kept coming in, uninvited, breaking and entering.

      She came all the way over to where my assistant manager was on the floor in labor and then, all of the sudden, she calmed down and said, “Oh my! I am a doctor. I can help. Dear, do you need my help, I am a doctor?”

      She stayed there until the paramedics, police, and mall security came and acted like she was there the whole time helping her out as a good samaritan.

      Yep.

      • gemjunior

        Now that, I didn’t expect…. I guess it doesn’t matter what your profession when you’re African – it just shines right on through.

    • saxonsun

      And demanding beyond belief.

    • anonymous_amren

      There’s a very simple, easy solution to the no-tipping “problem”. Simply ban tipping, make everything more expensive, and pay the staff a fair wage. That’s what other civilised countries do. Tipping is a form of corruption anyway, so you might as well just charge the correct price instead of complaining when people don’t pay more than the marked price.

      The abuse and crazy orders are a bit harder for a business to solve on their own though.

  • IanJMacDonald

    There’s a joke circulating through the hospitality industry.

    Q: How do you keep a canoe from tipping?

    A: Paint it black.

    • “I see a red door, and I want to…”

      • Michael_C_Scott

        Love that song, but try on “Little Talks”, by Monsters and Men.

  • Ralph

    Maybe Obama will bus in White retailers and force them to sell in Black communities. Line up those yellow school buses again, but make sure all the Whites go to the back. All you White retailers are the new version of White school kids bused into jungle schools.

    Oh, and you can’t have guns to defend yourself.

    Is this your America? It’s not mine.

    • rebellisMMXII

      You just reminded me of moochelle eyeing farmers markets and how they aren’t in black neighborhoods. Watch out independent farmers!

  • ncpride

    What liars these people are. A business will set up shop anywhere if there is money to be made. They don’t care what color your skin is as long as your money is green. The fact is, retailers, restaurants, etc.. won’t do business in the ghetto for damn good reason, and all the fake outrage,’gasps’ and bogus claims of ‘racism’ does not change the fact that blacks are notoriously poor tippers, and the worst shoplifters of them all. Stop pretending otherwise…. it’s getting real old, real fast.

    • sbuffalonative

      About 20 years ago, a black man opened a sneaker shop in my neighborhood. This was long before blacks were moving it,

      He was shot and killed in his store.

      Immediately it was speculated that some white guy killed him. It turned out that some black guy from the old neighborhood came to the store to rob him.

      Even when this black store keeper tried to leave and set up in a white community, black violence followed him. Blacks can’t escape black violence even in white neighborhoods.

    • saxonsun

      Even black waiters try to avoid them.

  • Robert Binion

    The crippling, endemic poverty that has beset areas of the American South for generations seems less mysterious now.

  • Veritas_lux_mea

    “Black folks don’t tip.”

    This is completely true. I delivered for Dominos several years ago in a city that is about 20% black. I would say about 80% of White people do tip, while about 80% of black people DON’T tip. And it’s not just about poverty either. Even the White people in the trailer parks I would deliver to were almost always cordial, appreciative, and good tippers ($2 or more). Blacks were, more often than not, none of those things.

    • Nathanwartooth

      Delivering pizzas is actually one of my favorite jobs ever.

      I have delivered pizzas for two different companies and always in majority White areas. I was never stiffed on a tip, ever. But I never delivered to any Blacks so I don’t really have a comparison.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      When I was driving for Blackjack and delivered to the Air Force Academy, enlisted tipped better than officers. The best tippers were the south gate guards whenever the weather was bad.

  • JohnEngelman

    Why, he wanted to know, wouldn’t quality restaurants come to his mixed-race community, where the average annual household income is $77,000, above the county average?

    The reply: “Black folks don’t tip, and so managers can’t maintain a quality staff. And if they can’t maintain a quality staff, they can’t maintain a quality restaurant.”

    A gasp then rippled through the room in front of Mekarski. “This is one of the most pervasive and insidious forms of racism left in America today,” he says.

    – Emily Badger, Business Insider, April 18, 2013

    I used to have a friend who owned a restaurant. He would sometimes rent the restaurant to a group for a party. He told me that he nearly always had problems with blacks he did not have with other groups. Blacks would be rude to the staff. They would pilfer eating utensils and plates. They seldom tipped. Sometimes he had to call the police.

    When it comes to blacks, racism frequently consists of telling the truth. Because blacks and their white apologists and enablers cannot disprove criticisms of blacks they have made it dangerous to express those criticisms.

  • Bobbala

    What’s with the obsession over getting a straw?

  • Bobbala

    All minority failures are rooted in two causes, the absence of white people and the presence of white people.

    • RisingReich

      This is a profoundly simple yet accurate statement.

    • MrGJG

      That’s a keeper Bobbala.

    • KevinPhillipsBong

      I gotta write that one down.

  • Derelictus

    Are there really people ignorant enough to NOT understand why businesses end up leaving or never bother opening shop in crime-ridden ghettos filled with Blacks and/or Mestizos? I swear I give up on humanity.

    • Tim

      We need more studies by liberal and black academics to tell us we’re racists…at taxpayers expense of course…

  • Todd

    Also even though they enjoy their food blacks will also complain about the quality of it to get a free meal.

  • edie

    many blacks are clueless on how to act in a civilized society.

    too many whites have become like that also.
    Part of the bringing us down to their level the elites love so much.

    • StillModerated

      Bantus are the cement overshoes of civilization.

    • Xerxes22

      When the government first ordered integration back in the 1960s, they should also have set up programs to teach Blacks how to behave in a civilized manor. In other words how to act White. If they had done this instead of those feel good self esteem empowerment programs, we might have something to show for all that money that was spent trying to uplift Blacks.You cannot take a creature out of the jungle, put him among normal civilized people and expect the creature to behave like them. It’s impossible. The creature must first be domesticated and than he can be taught civilized behavior.

      • MBlanc46

        It probably wouldn’t have taken, but the Black Power context of the times wouldn’t have permitted it in any case.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        Most of them don’t want to learn civilized behavior. Even getting an education is considered “acting white”. Calling police and letting them handle things is worse than “acting white”; it’s effectively snitching. O.J. Simpson was filthy rich and after he skated on murder charges, he and accomplices held up some men at gunpoint over sports memorabilia that O.J. said belonged to him. A rational (white) person would have called police, knowing that the items would have been taken into evidence, where they would at least not disappear, while the matter was investigated and eventually straightened out. Did O.J. do this? No; too much trouble. Too white. It turns out not to have been very bright, because he doesn’t even come up for a parole hearing until 2015.

        • MikeofAges

          Possession is nine-tenth of the law. Even if they were his, Simpson probably couldn’t have gotten the items back in any legal way. And a legal action would have cost more than the value of the property, even if successful.

          He chose to deal with it the gangster way, and paid for it. We have pithy little sayings that help us successfully cope with these situations. If Simpson had tried “Eat s*** and die. 50 trillion flies can’t be wrong,” he might be out on golf course at this exact moment.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            If he had said to himself “Keep that stuff. I have a Bentley in my garage”, he would also be out on a golf course today.

            My anger over patent money that I had been cheated out of was my downfall. Three years locked up and the loss of my gun rights was the result. Would the US $625,000, or even the $400,000 for which I was willing to settle have made a serious difference in my life? I have a cracked filling in a tooth that needs a crown, and my Pinzgauer truck needs a new starter motor, but money isn’t really an issue anymore. I took revenge in advance by outing my ex-father as a wife-beater and child-abuser. His old co-workers wrote to Judge Miller for my sentencing, and Miller said on court record that my ex-father was “truly despicable”.

            At the age of 47, I wish at the age of 34 I had just decided that since money is pretty much bulls**t, I shouldn’t worry about it. O.J. should have done as well, but while his legal problems have been numerous, he was always able to buy himself off the hook.

            Go to a thrift store near you and look at what they sell. People max out their credit cards to buy these things that they eventually just donate to charity. Afterward, they get up in the morning to go to work to buy more stuff they don’t need, all while paying taxes to support a government that actively works against their interests.

      • edie

        if you believe you can teach blacks how to behave in a civilized manner you must not know blacks…………. half of their bad behavior is just to be different from and antagonistic to, whites……….

  • bigone4u

    I can name hundreds of things blacks screw up, but I can’t name a single thing they contribute to in a postive way. I guess I must either have a brain or be a racist. Or maybe “racists” are the only people with brains.

    • onetwothree

      Back in the 60s they made some decent music.

      • IstvanIN

        Written and/or managed by non-blacks for the most part.

      • bigone4u

        You had to go back 40 years to find something blacks contributed to. That says a lot about blacks doesn’t it.

      • NM156

        Yes, but what about the other trillion dollars we spent on them? At least music was a commercial exchange.

  • Groovy

    There’s one other issue that hasn’t been touched. Lawsuits for slip and fall. Put a puddle of liquid in a market in the ghetto and the patrons come running in order to slip in it and make a claim. Loose rice or any similar thing can bring a lawsuit. The amount of liability payouts in the ghetto can be crushing.

    • MikeofAges

      My big mistake in life. Once I slipped on a puddle in an upscale produce market in west San Jose and just popped back up and said I was okay. Darn, I could have paid for my master’s with that.

  • a multiracial individual

    Has there ever been a solid study done on the ethnic demography of tipping?

    • Guest
      • George

        This abstract calls on restaurant managers to ‘educate’ their customer base on tipping norms.

        Since whites tip well, and hispanics and asians tip, too, can you imagine the hue and cry from the ‘audience’ for whom such a campaign is necessary?

        The adverts on O, BET, etc would cause riots.

      • a multiracial individual

        As my Black uncle likes to say, “Ni**as don’t tip.”

    • Flaxen-headed Strumpet

      I am not aware of a formal study on the matter, but . . .

      The reply: “Black folks don’t tip, and so managers can’t maintain a
      quality staff. And if they can’t maintain a quality staff, they can’t
      maintain a quality restaurant.”

      This reminds me of the old saw that they (coastal South Carolina food/drink waitstaff) don’t call them (trifling black diners) “Canadians” (17% restuarante tips are pre-calculated and invoiced per socialist Canadian labor laws, good, bad, or superb service not important) for nothing. But the waitstaff should at least acknowledge that the Canucks have the plausible excuse of being “unaccustomed” due to the system they live under 50 weeks a year when they are not vacationing in the sunny southland of the US.

      I know that a lot of heated arguments go on between food service management and multiracial staff about how “Canadian” diners might be “disproportionately” seated in sections staffed by X, Y or Z waitstaffer as punishment for being out of management favor for one reason or another.

      As to first hand experience, I can tell you that if White diners go to a “full service” independent (ie local ma and pa soul food joint) Black owned and operated restuarante, they will generally be treated like royalty by the tip hungry black waitstaff.

      • Canadians know they are expected to tip in the USA. They are just cheap.

    • StillModerated

      This site has some tales of celebrity tippers including basketball players and rappers.

      http://www.stainedapron.com/

  • PennsylvaniaRealist

    Black people, in general, do not tip. They think that everyone owes them something and basically you have to squeeze money out of them to pay the bill. I own a company that s service industry orientated, no one like to deal with black patrons, they are always rude, or smell like weed, and don’t tip.

    • Katherine McChesney

      There is one area where I know they could be trusted to pay. I saw it when I worked in the 60’s for a Savings & Loan. They paid their house notes on time. Blacks were more trustworthy to pay their notes than whites were. We never had a black on the foreclosure lists.

      • PesachPatriot

        They were a lot more sensible back then and rap music hadn’t completely destroyed their culture and society either. During the height of the big financial crisis in 2008 I worked at a home loan modification company dealing with the credit card problems of people facing foreclosure….the average white, asian and hispanic families usually owed between 3 to 5 thousand on their credit cards and were between 30-60 days behind but current on their underwater mortgages….the average black family owed between 10-20K on their cards and were 90-120 days past due on their mortgages but somehow kept current on almost 12-1500 dollars a month in high interest credit card minimums. I asked them how they could gamble with the roof over their heads while continuing to purchase luxuries on credit….the answer was something about obama saving their houses and needing cards for emergencies….I was personally amazed that someone at chase or wells fargo thought it was a good idea to give out credit cards with 10K limits to taco bell managers making 30K a year after taxes.

        I remember feeling very badly for the senior whites of your generation. Some were missing meals or picking and choosing which medication to buy in order to make credit card payments. I know how you guys were raised to always pay credit cards on time no matter what. The way that creditors talked to these seniors made many cry….the valued customer of 30 or 40 years became human garbage deadbeats to be verbally abused after one late payment during a global economic meltdown. One elderly lady in Maine asked if she could be thrown in debtors prison if she defaulted on her credit cards….I explained that at 85 years old creditors could not garnish social security checks or take her house or car, unsecured debt means unsecured by home or vehicle and if people in america got thrown in jail for defaulting on unsecured debt there wouldn’t be enough steel and concrete in the world to build that particular correctional facility.

  • dulouz

    This is the best example of the beginning of the end I’ve seen in very long while. No investment means people just don’t believe in the future.

  • Vanga

    I always feel more comfortable when I see a large group of national retailers in a neighborhood. The more of them are there, the whiter the neighborhood is. They seem to open stores as a group. None of them are individually guilty of racism because all of them are going to places where there is no racism.

  • I had a friend who worked as a manager at a Footlocker. She said that employee theft was the main problem that she had. She told that once when the Michael Jordan fragrance first came out, she had three bottles. The next day, she had one. None of them had been sold, they had taken by her mostly black staff.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Hahahaha! Michael Jordan ‘fragrance’. Wonder what that smelled like? Black sweat???
      Bet it was a cheap ‘fragrance’, bad for allergies. Their perfume in my building stinks up the elevators because they use too much of it.

  • LastBastionOfHope

    Why? Here’s a short answer: maybe they don’t feel like having flash mob looters stealing everything in sight and costing them thousands of dollars. This is the problem in America…the answers to some of the biggest questions and issues are so obvious and simple, yet the PC culture in America prevents real solutions from being offered or put into practice.

  • Luca

    The reason: “Blacks don’t tip.”

    That is the understatement of the century (so far). That would be like saying the Titanic hit an ice cube. The real reasons are endless and mindbogglingly evident.

    Besides, businesses spend a great deal of money looking for profitable locations to locate their establishments. And just like a person shopping for a home, they have every right to establish themselves in the neighborhood of their own choosing that in the end would profit them the most.

    Personal income is not always a predictor of where to locate. I wouldn’t want to live in the same community as rich rap stars, NBA players or community organizers. With or without money and even if they are civilized, they always have troublesome friends and family members.

    • MBlanc46

      You’ve hit the problem with middle-class blacks. Even if they are decent, hard-working, productive citizens, they usually have typical black relatives or old friends from the hood who will be coming around committing TNB (if I can say that on AR).

      • Or chidrin that are problems.

        • MBlanc46

          Absolutely.

  • brengunn

    There seems to be a consensus here that blacks don’t like tipping, having never been a waiter in a black neighbourhood I cannot say anthing about the subject myself. So, if they don’t give tips, does anyone have a theory as to why they don’t? What is it about them that stops them giving tips? Is it an American black thing or is it blacks everywhere? This is fascinating, I’d love to get to the bottom of this.

    BTW, I hate giving tips myself, though being European it is not required as it is in the States. I would much rather the restaurant owner charge a price for the meal so he can pay his employees a decent wage rather than have the staff rely on tips. I’m not mean, I just don’t agree with the system. If the worker isn’t getting paid enough, increase their wages, don’t leave it to me to pay them for you.

    • capnmorgan5150

      That’s how it’s done here. If you don’t like it, leave.

      • brengunn

        What do you mean? Leave the internet? You know the internet is worldwide, right?

        • NYB

          When restaurant food is taxed, the tip system is a great way to help out the restaurant employees, while keeping food prices reasonable.

          A friend once waited tables while vacationing in Israel. His tips got better when he lied and told the customers he was Jewish. Tips are a way to support your own kind in a hostile world.

          • saxonsun

            I worked at a Jewish country club when I was 17. The patrons treated me so badly I had to quit.

          • Katherine McChesney

            I worked for Jews in the Los Angeles music business. They were, bar none, the BEST employers I’ve ever had. They were generous with my salary and were a help to me anytime I needed anything personally with no strings attached. I was mentored by one who helped me advance in my career. He also offered to put me through law school. I chose not to do that because I wasn’t as aggressive as I should have been. Today I regret my decision. I should have taken him up on his offer.

          • PesachPatriot

            I am sorry that the people at the country club were so disrespectful. Country club members, whether jewish or gentile, tend to walk around with their noses in the air thinking they are better than everyone else and that they are entitled to act like jerks. There are plenty of both in the area where I live. If I was rich enough to be a country club member I’d probably be in a great mood most of the time and would try to be nice to those lower down the socio-economic ladder than myself.

    • jambi19

      It’s about gibsmedat for the afrincans. Also in the USA you can eat lunch for around 10$ drink, entree and side. Unlike in EU. So a tip is expected since the restaurant charges less.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        Yes; food is cheaper here. That said, eating out was quite a bit cheaper in Australia than even the US when I was there, even with the service charge added into the bill in lieu of an expected tip. Frozen and canned food at supermarkets Down Under didn’t have much variety, which as a single man I found disappointing, but restaurants were inexpensive. There was an Indian place that sold on their dinner menu a big plate of rice with the diner’s choice of three different excellent curries off a rather long list, for A$ 4. The exchange rate ran around 62 cents, and I was being paid in US dollars, so dinner there cost me about US $2.50. How do you beat that?

    • PesachPatriot

      I used to work as a domino’s delivery driver when I lived in the north…the store was right in the hood and the outlying areas got nicer and whiter the farther out you went. The blacks in the nicer areas would occasionally tip(usually on weekends, tighter during the week), but the section 8 crowd within 5 miles of the store never did, even if I drove out in the middle of a blizzard on new years day or super bowl sunday. It kind of aggravated me at the time but looking back I’m just glad I was never jumped, stabbed or shot. I always strive to be a good tipper whether at a pub, restaurant or when getting a haircut. I probably tip pizza delivery people the best, because here in florida the houses in most developments look the same and the numbers are small and hard to read.

    • Funruffian

      It’s part of the American culture and i don’t agree with your assertion. A restaurant cannot afford to pay a waiter $15-20 per hour, because they have too much overhead as it is. If they had a dozen waiters working on a weekend night at $15 per hour, the restaurant wouldn’t make much profit, if any at all.

      • brengunn

        That doesn’t make any sense. The customers are almost compelled to give a tip, I don’t see how adding the 15%, or whatever it is, to the bill would change the outcome for the restaurant, the employee or the customer. This system works in Europe so I don’t see why it would not work in America. Also, the staff wouldn’t need to be paid $15 to $20 an hour, I doubt they make that as it is, just a fair wage.

        P.S I’m not attacking your culture, I know some can be a little tetchy about such things, just giving my point of view.

        • Free market

          It’s the socialist mindset that you’ve been so indoctrinated in you can’t even see beyond it. In socialism you pretend to work and the government pretends to pay you. Everything is “feee” and taken care of by the state who in turn bleeds it from you somewhere. There’s no such thing as a free lunch.
          In a free market a good wait person can will will earn more than a poor one because the custom of tipping quickly weeds out under-performers and maintains good help. It’s the service industry equivelant of working “piece rate”.
          It is perfectly acceptable to not tip if service is poor and very common to tip extra if service is above average.

        • Funruffian

          It makes sense, because it is economically sound. If you were to pay the waitstaff a simple wage without the chance of earning any bonus or gratuity the incentive for good service is diminished. In essence, a gratuity for service is rewarded based on merit and not by charging the customer exorbitant prices. I’m not saying that your method wouldn’t work for every eating establishment. It’s just that our business model seems to work best and it has been practiced this way for as long as I can remember.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      You’re paying for it either way; what’s the difference? I like the ability to reward excellent service – or lousy service – at my own discretion. When I was in grad school in Australia, there was a sushi place halfway between my flat in Randwick and UNSW. They didn’t have a liquor license, but allowed me to BYO sake from a nearby bottle shop, and they would heat the sake up for me. How cool is that? Yes, I tipped them.

    • Wait staff in the USA make sub-minimum wage per hour. The tips – which they have to declare for federal government taxing purposes – are expected to make up the difference (but only credit card tips can actually be tracked). If they don’t …. well, oh well (actually then the employer has to make it up). That is why tips are expected in the USA. I am not a server, but in Illinois the server minimum wage is $4.65 per hour.

  • APaige

    I was raised in a ‘south suburb’ of Chicago-still super-majority white. I saw nearby communities become majority black-with the usual outcome. The mall I used to work at as a teenager is all but destroyed. Now those blacks travel to the other mall. Whites build great areas, blacks move in and destroy those areas, and white people are blamed for leaving.

  • Secret Tribunal

    White business owners making tactical decisions to not get ripped off by blacks is “still a big problem” in America.

  • Beelzabubalicious

    The man is 100% correct, black people are terrible tippers. I used to bartend in Santa Monica LA at a high end restaurant. Well one of the bar managers was black and he had organised a poetry night where blacks came and read poetry, which I called kill whitey night, because almost every black “poet” just got up there and blathered on about being “oppressed” and being a victim of the white man. All the wait staff, even the couple black ones, hated getting scheduled to bar tend that night. And the reason was completely obvious, all the blacks that showed up that night to read their “poetry” were terrible tippers and if you had to bar tend that night you were almost guaranteed not to make any money. I always found it funny that when a black did tip and usually it was hardly anything, they made a big show of it, like they want to show off how big they are. Well that was 15 years ago and since then the subject has come up a few times in casual conversation and every person who I know waited tables said the same thing, blacks dont tip.
    You know for a race that depends on the welfare of other races, blacks sure dont care to pass the love on and take care of those who take care of them. Am I surprised?? Not at all, blacks are selfish and dont care about anyone but themselves.

    • Funruffian

      Whenever I patronize a restaurant I make certain to avoid sitting near Blacks as best as possible. I survey the area very well to determine if a group of Blacks will be seated by me. If my food doesn’t arrive and it happens, I simply ask to move booths or tables. They are loud and often inconsiderate to other patrons.

      • saxonsun

        And what happened to Red Lobster?! All black or mostly black.

    • Anonymouse

      My daughter put herself through college as a waitress and a mid-range restaurant in a large southern city. When the black folk came in, the waitresses would scurry to make sure they did *not* get that table.

      Some poor sap always ended up with the table and with very few exceptions, the story was always the same – no tip or a really bad tip.

      In one instance, my daughter ended up waiting on a black couple. The husband left a $5 tip for a $25 meal. The wife left the table after her husband, and unabashedly made eye-contact with my daughter as she lifted the $5 bill on the table and slipped it into her purse.

      “Prejudices” don’t arise out of nowhere. They’re based on patterns of observed behavior over a long period of time.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        I would have quit on the spot for that, without cleaning up the table.

        • MikeofAges

          Please don’t encourage anyone to do this kind of stuff. They could end up having to register as a sex offender. Pranks and “payback” involving vandalism and harassment also could end up in criminal court.

          Even a misdemeanor conviction is still a conviction to be held against you. Then there’s the issue of jail time. And a prosecutor who wanted to boost his or her felony conviction record might choose you as the victim. Unless you could afford a private lawyer, you might end a convicted felon.

          You, personally, may have survived your criminal conviction to remain a functional and mentally intact person. Many do not.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            With a federal felony conviction, I figure all the misdemeanors are almost free. Your mileage may vary. Since I’ll never get to go shooting again until our next civil war, even other felonies are probably free. I would also like a nice job as a chemical engineer again, but that also seems impossible. I want revenge as well, but my ex-father is in Britain and full of cancer. The UK national health care system won’t give anyone over age 55 chemotherapy, so he’s going down in a terrible way. I want revenge, but what could I do to him that would be worse than giving him cancer?

            I always quit a job on the spot when I feel I have been gratuitously abused. It’s only money. My next job will be painting the inside of a neighbor’s house, not because I really want him to pay me, but because he’s a friend and I know how to do this and already have the gear. Monday after lunch I drove him back from his doctor’s office. He tried warning me about a “Mr. Scott” in the area who apparently ate raw kittens back in the day. Working for friends is a completely different situation.

            Always quit on the spot when you have been abused at work.

  • NYB

    There used to be a very popular dance lounge in a swank hotel near where I live.

    Over time, the weekend clientele became overwhelming black. Many of the women were obviously denizens of low-income housing, using trashy clothes to pick up a new baby-daddy. The bucks were garbed in their most ghettoized fashions.

    Although profitable, the club became such an embarrassment the hotel management closed it completely. The blacks moved on, and the reputation of the hotel was restored.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Their fashion sense is cartoonish. You should see my black Dominican neighbor. His clothing looks like he could have bought it at Freddy’s Fashion Mart. Another black in my building wears outlandish colors and flashy styles. They look ridiculous strutting their ‘stuff’ in this neighborhood. They could pass for pimps.

  • dhs

    ‘The reply:”Black folks don’t tip, and so managers can’t maintain a quality staff. And if they can’t maintain a quality staff, they can’t maintain a quality restaurant.”
    A gasp then rippled through the room in front of Mekarski.

    The above quote reminded me of another quote from Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged:

    “I think it’s funny. There was a time when men were afraid that somebody would reveal some secret of theirs that was unknown to their fellows. Nowadays, they’re afraid that somebody will name what everybody knows….”

  • splitsing

    The short answer is that no sane person wants to perform in a service capacity for bantus. Period. End of story.

    • Ngati Pakeha

      Bravo & Bingo – Rinse & Repeat

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    “Why, he wanted to know, wouldn’t quality restaurants come to his mixed-race community, where the average annual household income is $77,000, above the county average?”

    Because black behavior is universal, regardless of income. Rich blacks don’t behave much better than poor blacks. They still don’t tip, they still steal, they still engage in violence. I would never open a store in a black neighborhood, no matter how wealthy the inhabitants.

    • Morris LeChat

      100% correct! Income does not eradicate “blackness”

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Whenever you hear someone say that rich blacks should be treated as if they were white, remember O.J. Simpson.

    • To be honest, how many restaurants can be expected in a community of 5000 people?

  • Jefferson

    Yo why don’t dey be openin a Saks Fifth Avenue store in Compton, dey be racist yo nah mean.

    • NYB

      I remember store staff complaining that blacks would buy fancy party clothes on Thursday, and try to return them smelling of cigarette smoke on Monday.

  • Frank

    Blacks won’t tip, so Whites are racist? Only a liberal could understand that.

  • IKantunderstand

    Um, allow me to summarize their findings: We are getting out if the negroes are moving in. Period. It does not matter how wealthy the new Black colonizers are, they attract friends, relatives, and please remember, the new Black colonizers were not all that smart or classy; they were lucky affirmative action hires. So, we Whites are initially lulled into thinking:”Well, these Blacks aren’t so bad, and then we find out they are that bad. I don’t know how many Negroes are out there that actually qualify as a real hard working citizen of the United(for now) States of America, I only know, that the ones I know, were only hired because of AA. If Blacks start buying into your neighborhood, GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN. The sad thing is, there is no where for us to go anymore. We Whites here at Amren, are not rich(I’m surmising), we are just regular Americans. Since I don’t think most of us can move, what do we do when our neighborhood is colonized? Allow me to tell you the experience of a couple I know in Sterling Heights MI. This couple used to love dressing up at Halloween, and giving out candy. As the years went by, the people who showed up on their front porch were:adult Arabs, Adult Indians, Arab and Indian children who wore NO Halloween costumes. These trick or treaters did not say anything at the door. They just stood there, sans costumes, sans American values , sans any idea why they were standing there in the first place. All they knew, was this was the night to get free candy from Whites. So, you might ask, what did this Sterling Heights couple do? This lovely White couple, true White Americans, STOPPED their participation in Halloween. Because as they said to me: “What’s the point if I answer the door as Dracula, and these foreigners just say “Candy”!

    • robinbishop34

      “As the years went by, the people who showed up on their front porch
      were:adult Arabs, Adult Indians, Arab and Indian children who wore NO
      Halloween costumes.”

      They probably hit all the neighborhoods around the area and then stocked their corner convenient stores with the free gibmedats.

    • I live in a rental building but all the owners to either side know me. So I have always tried to participate in community activities. I quit giving out candy along time ago because of blacks digging in my bag of candy, started again, and quit again when 35 year old fat black women were holding out their pillow cases.

    • PesachPatriot

      This makes me very sad. When I was growing up halloween was one of my favorite holidays and I still enjoy it now as an adult. I also like the history of it and how it started out as the celtic pagan harvest festival of Samhain before the church turned it into all hallows eve. I’m pretty sure halloween is the oldest continuously celebrated human holiday. I hear its basically now the number 2 holiday in america after christmas.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        We celebrate Samhain, Lammas, Imbolc and Beltane. Beltane is only two weeks or so away.

        I’m sorry about Halloween dying off as well. At my mother’s home, a little girl with her dad visited us to trick or treat. I was in a certain uniform, and she asked, “Daddy, what is he?”

        “That is a German soldier”

        Ariadne got off looking like a younger version of her mother.

      • IKantunderstand

        All Christian White holidays are under attack. Christmas will soon be gone, or rather, celebrated as a minor holiday(assuming the cultural Marxists get complete hold of Mexican Catholics). Halloween, gone. Thanksgiving? Thanks for what? That Whites conquered the world and subjugated it? Nope. Gone. The fourth of July? Why? One European group fighting against another colonizer European group? Who cares! What we will have is: Ramadan, Cinco de Mayo, assorted Wicca, Hindu,Sikh,Chinese new year, and who knows what else. The diversified “enrichers” have not taken over my neighborhood as of yet. But, when they do, I also will not participate in Halloween. Because they don’t get it. They simply don’t get it. I frankly don’t care if this is a religion problem, or a cultural problem. It really doesn’t matter, they DO NOT GET IT. They never will. DIVERSITY IS OUR WEAKNESS. DIVERSITY IS OUR DEATH.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    It’s far more than “not tipping.”

    Locating in black neighborhoods means a poorly educated workforce with slovenly work habits –also riots, gangs, shoplifting, employee theft, armed robbery, running out on the bill, constant screams of racism and lawsuits against the business.

    Ask Reverend Wright why HE doesn’t live among “his” people.

    I expect the next step will be government requiring businesses to locate in “communities of color” as a condition of doing business anywhere – with no insurance coverage for “civil insurrection.”

    There’s a term for the phenomenon he’s describing: retail reality.

    Fixed.

    We’ve given these people whatever they wanted for years and it is never enough.

    I simply no longer give a damn.

    Bon

    • Smitty

      They are already doing that…taxpayer money is being used by the federal government to pay retail outlets and grocery stores to locate in predominant black areas by insuring that their losses from employee theft,shoplifting,armed robbery,etc etc etc will be paid by the government using White taxpayer dollars.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        That is bribery.

        It won’t be long until businesses will be mandated through government force to set up shop in black and brown neighborhoods first as a condition of doing business.

        Ask the banks about being required to give sub-prime mortgages to “serve low and moderate income geographies” and “economically empower persons of low and moderate income.” IWO, lend money to wholly unqualified blacks and browns…or else.

        The government told the banks: “Non-compliance will bring out the full panoply of all our enforcement armorarium.”

        Meaning the government had the power to use force and intended to use it if banks didn’t comply.

        Bon

        • Michael_C_Scott

          “This is bribery.”

          No, it is extortion. Whites are forced to pay the taxes that support this nonsense under threat of serious legal penalties, up to and including prison. Persons attempting to escape from prison can be shot by guards, so boiled down, this means “pay your taxes or get shot.”

          Nobody seems to be asking the obvious questions: Why are wealthy blacks not starting businesses in these areas? Why are middle-class blacks not forming co-op type businesses in these areas? The answer is that regardless of income, emotionally and morally blacks are spoiled children who expect big government to force whites to do everything for them.

          • MikeofAges

            Unlike everyone else, blacks in America have never been able to set up on any scale an autonomous commercial economy of independent businesses. Many reasons, but the consequences are obvious enough. No one providing employment for their own. Their earned income flies right back out of their community (no multiplier). No one brings outside money into their community by buying from them.

        • Smitty

          Well at least there is one silver lining.Forcing businesses to locate shop in black & brown neighborhoods will help keep black congestion down in other White shopping business districts…but i suppose there will still be those blacks who will travel to the White area located businesses to sexually harass the White women and rob White shoppers as they return to their cars.

        • edie

          actually it’s closer to misuse of tax monies

          but it’s sop nowadays

    • Michael_C_Scott

      How do you I send you pictures, without seeming patronizing?

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        What happened to your comment about sending me pictures? I’d love to see them!

        One of the things I don’t care for with the Disqus system is we cannot connect with one another. I wish there were an area for private emails as there is on other sites. I cannot put up my e mail for obvious reasons (like my job) — although a troll DID contact me through e mail and I’m still trying to figure out how he did it. I’ve assumed our e mails were not public.

        Maybe those tech guys who say there is no privacy on the Internet are right.

        I’d also like to know how you make the cherry/lime ale. I have a very nice blood orange ale that I bought –made in New York of all places where I know oranges don’t grow. I have a blood orange tree but it produces very few oranges each year. Cherries don’t grow here well.

        Bon

        • Michael_C_Scott

          How do I send you pictures, or even post them here?

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            If you look at the bottom of the comment box, there is a small icon on the left of a landscape. If you click on the icon, you can upload photos from your computer’s photo files or drop and drag photos if your computer OS does that (I use Apple so it’s easy to click on a photo from my photo library and drag it into the field).

            It’s really easy and you don’t have to use HTML code like you do in other comment boxes -I’m really glad AR allows us to post photos and YouTube videos.

            Try it.

            Bon

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Mike’s Recepie For Heinous Apple-Lime Cider:

            I use a 5-gallon “Deep Rock” bottle with a pressure lock as the fermenter.

            For ingredients, I use 8 cans of frozen apple juice concentrate and 4 cans of frozen limeade concentrate. These I allow to thaw and then pour into the fermenter. I also put 2 pounds of sugar in there, and then fill it most of the way up with tap water, and use a half packet of Lalvin V-1116 wine yeast.

            Primary fermentation goes 8 weeks, and then I bottle for the secondary, which goes another six weeks. I bottle the secondary in empty 40s with 1.5 teaspoons of sugar (to carbonate) in each 40 bottle.

            For fruit juices, use the cheapest Wal Mart stuff with no preservatives. Preservatives will keep the yeast from doing the job properly. I make a winter brew from cranberry juice almost the same way which got my neighbor completely spun.

            I occasionally use raw ingredients like boiled prickly pear cactus or boiled watermelon. Cactus cider may have more fermentable sugars in it, because it is a thing all of its own.

            I think this comes out at about 10 percent. This stuff isn’t sweet. I have a bottle on the desk here, and I can taste no sugar in it. With lemon or lime cider or honey mead, one must wait quite a long time. Citric acid impedes yeast growth. Honey is anti-biotic all by itself, so the brew gets going quite slowly. I don’t brew honey mead anymore; it is pure hangover juice.

            I have a 40 oz of 4-9-13 homebrew here on my desk. Apple-lime cider. It isn’t carbonated yet, but I am really feeling it. Sayaka took a swig of it and exclaimed “Oh, no!”

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            OOooOO that sounds potent!!

            I’ve had homemade mead (very good) but have never attempted to make it myself.

            I did receive a gift of a bottle of expresso-brewed Russian Imperial Stout recently but was only able to drink a VERY small amount — it was thick and bitter and very strong and weighed in at 11% alcohol content.

            An acquired taste, I suppose.

            Still, I’d love to try your apple-lime cider.

            Bon

          • Michael_C_Scott

            You can have as much as you like at 2563 Hatch Circle in Colorado Springs, but you shouldn’t drive for a day or two afterward. I sure don’t.

            I love Russian stouts, but my friend who brews those calls my stuff “jet fuel”.

      • MikeofAges

        Typical. Instead of enforcing the laws you already have, just pass a new and more draconian law. Who will get caught up in the coils of this? Mostly teenagers and college students, whose families will then have to hire expensive criminal lawyers to get them off. Those who can’t pay for the lawyer? Well, forget them.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          Public defenders worked pretty well for me. They seem quite diligent, provided the defendant busts his butt to provide them with every shred of exculpatory evidence they might need.

          If you do your work, they will do theirs.

  • NM156

    Mixed-race?! BWAAA HAHAHA!! Olympia Fields must be 80% black.

  • LHathaway

    Right, those evil whites will seduce another KIA factory into moving into their lily white enclaves so their near-bred friends can grab up those $12 an hour jobs and keep them away from those living in the city.

  • Funruffian

    I talked with this one half-wit White guy with a shaved head sporting some tattoos at a park one day. He was telling me how excited he was that a Walmart was opening in his neighborhood. This is how clueless our country and most White people have become. They don’t realize that Walmart is a magnet for Ghetto marauders. People have such short foresight. They can’t see past their nose when it comes to potential crime and the demographics that follow.

    • Andy

      The Wal-Mart near my home has at least half Hispanic shoppers. The whole store is geared toward them, with signs et c in Spanish (often before in English). And yet the Spanish language book section is tiny, and I have never seen a single person looking at it. (And I spend a fair amount of time in the books aisle when I go.) Now, this could be an evil attempt by a huge corporation to keep Hispanics uneducated. Or it could be supply and demand.

      • Same with my store, which is itself located in a nice area but we get a lot of the hispanics, and, to a lesser extent, blacks and middle eastern immigrants from the neighboring towns. We either go first thing in the morning or later at night, and generally avoid the Tower of Babel that way.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      I shop the Wal Mart off Jamboree in northern Colorado Springs. Customers seem to be mostly white, with very few blacks. The closest any city bus goes to there is the south side of the Chapel Hills Mall, which is quite a walk if one is carrying groceries. The city bus here doesn’t run at all on Sundays, and only operates limited routes on Saturdays. There is no bus service after 7:00 PM on any day.

      I like Wal Mart for their prices; some of them are actually lower than those at Costco. I think only the produce at Kroger (“King Soopers” here in Colorado) is generally better, and Safeway and Albertson’s simply overcharge. Your acquaintance was probably just interested in saving a few bucks on groceries. Times are tough for a lot of people.

      • Funruffian

        Colorado Springs must be a pretty nice place. I live in a city with diverse demographics and a high crime rate. So I guess it depends on the locale. In my case opening a Walmart near a mid-scale community was not a great idea. So it’s all relative. I’m sure if a Walmart opened up in one of those upscale areas of the by area it wouldn’t attract to much riff-raff.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          The northern end of Colorado Springs is wonderful. I’ve been here for 22 years, except for grad school in Australia and federal prison, so we can make that 17 years.

    • KevinPhillipsBong

      I advise anyone considering a move to check out the local Walmart.

      • edie

        kind of like a local barometer?

  • Look at the recent flash mobs where groups of black youths storm a store and shoplift and terrorize shoppers with little or no ramifications.

    Most places do little to confront shoplifters—hence, they are embolden to escalate retail theft.

    When it gets too much of a loss for the retailer; they move out of the neighborhood…

  • bubo

    Black strip club, pawn shops, pay day loans are all businesses that thrive in diversity zones.

    • That’s a good idea, a black strip club for Olympia Fields.

  • Ngati Pakeha

    If they ever rewrote The Bible the behaviour of Bantu would have to go down as one of the Great Plagues. Their behaviour is very reminiscent of the locust.

  • WH robber given keys to bank

    Maybe they dont like sticking a carrot in front of a donkeys face to get robbed. But then again that what happened when lib scum elected the bank robber in 2008 and gave him the keys to the bank that has seen 7 trillion and counting go missing in action over and above what is taken in by the IRS or more than all 43 presidents combined beating liberal Yale and Harvard grad Dubya for the top prize as biggest spender ever. George Washington took over in 1789 and for 224 yrs before 2008 Obama now has his name in the Guiness Book of World Records for spending more than any president history. Bush accomplished the same feat but it took him 8 yrs after 2000 and 216 yrs of US president history before he was elected.

  • gemjunior

    This asshole is obviously white (Mekarski) stupid, and libtarded. What he needs IMHO is a strong dose of an interpersonal meeting with a quality negro flash mob beatdown to cause a flash of reality. Just to crack open the little porthole of sense, if he has any left. Any idiot with half their brain stem left, just one functioning neuron, or a mere shred of a pons KNOWS that all this blather can be summed up in one sentence and that is: No decent establishment can exist around this population because they will destroy it as they do everything and everyone around them. A waste of pen and ink for what? Everyone knows the truth deep down. This folly is to amuse the liberals and give them what they think is a life, or a career. Lies, lies and more lies is what we can expect from our newpapers and all media in general.

  • From Wiki: Olympia Fields is a village in Cook County, Illinois, United States. The population was 4,988 at the 2010 census.

    I would guess a lot of Cook County employees live there.
    And that you see the occasional tumble-weave rolling down the street.

  • When I delivered pizzas, we redlined the hell out of the black parts of town. Result? Service to white customers improved, business improved, and our tips went up.

    The black areas were awful to deliver in. Not one single house number anywhere, they wouldn’t leave any lights on, drivers got harassed, and forget calling them to ask directions, they would refuse to give directions. Then the pizza shows up finally (after you’ve driven past the ape’s house 5 times) and first thing is “I gets a discount?”

  • Michael Gregory

    Not tipping, shoplifting and the over-all behavior, resulting in security (which one can find often in non-White and/or mixed race areas) of Blacks contributes to a loss of money within businesses. Yet…companies continue to market very positively to Blacks, all the while very negatively toward Whites. Whites need to stop giving these companies their hard-earned money, if they continue to disrespect them (the ones that turn a profit) all in the name of Political Correctness.

  • Erasmus

    It’s true. Everyone who’s ever waited tables knows this to be a fact. Blacks order you around, and then tip worth squat.

    • edie

      it’s a black thang, you might not understand

  • White Mom in WDC

    Blacks suck, they just do. They add nothing to America and really just drag everything down. This country is going down the tubes. A white nation only please

    • newscomments70

      I’m not sure if the moderators will allow your comment, but I gave you a thumbs up!

  • When the news first came out that Wal Mart was coming to the DC area, the black community groups immediately jumped on the bandwagon to demand hiring and wage preferences. Never mind the fact that parts of DC are considered “food deserts”, and that the Wal Mart would allow the residents of that community to have access to a selection of fresh food, vegetables etc that were not available. Putting aside how some may feel about Wal Mart and their business practices, this should, in theory, have been welcome news to the blacks, who you think would have been grateful to have such a store come into their community. Nope, it was all about what they were going to get out of it and how the local “businesses” in the community might be harmed by the store moving in. One elected official (guess the race) expressed concern that it would be too tempting for the community residents to go shoplift. The guy was protesting the store because he was worried his own people would get caught shoplifting. A level of idiocy on par with Jackson Lee’s comments about not blaming the gangbangers but blaming the guns. And people wonder why these stores don’t want to go into these communities.

  • The Patriot

    I always leave the driver for pizza the rest of the change, on a big bill. If what I owe is 33 dollars and some change, I will give him a fifty. I did pizza delivery as one of my first jobs before I was a well off executive.

  • AugustusAlexander

    I feel kind of like a jerk because most pizza i have ordered in my life is always like -5 minutes away from wherever i live and i have lived in 3 places so i always thought 2-3 dollars was pretty good. Now that i am older i usually give alot more but i always tip, do not think i have ever seen a black person tip yet they demand quality service.

    My parents though are godly tippers….i would not be suprised if they tip more in two years than many poor people make in one year.

    I do not see this generosity coming from non-white peoples.

    • edie

      same thing when a disaster hits…………… whites pay big……….

      so much so, that there is a fraud industry in charity

  • KevinPhillipsBong

    I worked for 4 years driving for Domino’s. I delivered in an area that was about 60% white, 25% Hispanic, 10% black and 5% other. About half of the blacks did not tip at all. Once I thought I heard a black woman tell me to keep the change and started to leave – boy, did she correct me. Other blacks would tip 1 or 2 dollars. I recall one black who gave me a big tip and wanted me to know that he was giving me a big tip – as if he were single-handedly trying to increase the black tipping average.

    I don’t recall tipping being much of a problem for Hispanics (about half of which couldn’t speak English at all and would have their kids come out and pay for the pizza). They didn’t tip as well as whites but I never dreaded delivering to a Hernandez like I did delivering to a DeAndre or a Jazmine.

    I also tried to pay attention to wealth. Did people in nice homes tip better than people in old run-down homes. Again, I couldn’t really find a correlation. It was about the same.

    Also, about half the time people called up to complain about the pizza it was a black person looking to score a freebie. We kept track and never gave more than 3 free pizzas to one address.

  • KevinPhillipsBong

    I can second that experience.

  • Bill

    The man replying was being understated. It’s not just the tipping. As others have stated, you just add a gratuity automatically on to the bill, as many upscale restaurants do. No, it’s far more than THAT. They are rude. They are dirty and trash bathrooms. They are loud and obnoxious even when trying to behave. Their cell phones are always ringing. Then they yak in loud voices, cursing and very animated. Most of all, and the thing that kills any restaurant they flock to on a regular basis, they chimp out and riot in the restaurant over any slight, any disagreement with each other, throwing chairs and tables and food and plates at each other.

    THEN they shamelessly post their escapades on worldstarhiphop. Or youtube. Bascially, blacks ruin EVERYTHING they touch. Due solely to their behavior and mental retardedness. The man giving the reply left out an awful lot.

    • Ella

      You described an unruly two year old who hates to sit at the table and eat. LOL Many Blacks and Hispanics shop at our mall now since big anchor stores recently pulled out of multiple neighbourhoods. It’s not so bad if they actually BUY things rather than making noise and scenes. Head will hurt due to the echoing shouts. Many Whites now shop on the Internet, safer and quiet.

  • pcmustgo

    I was just in a heavily black part of Long Island (Hempstead area) and there seemed to be tons of malls full of walmarts and costcos and sleepys and everythiing else, + tons of restaurants black’s liked- Red Lobster, etc. Perhaps those are more “middle class blacks” and this is why. In the straight up ghetto in North Brooklyn, true, it’s only ghetto stores like pawn shops, etc.

    • incorrigible

      If you want to experience long islands one true ghetto, take a drive through far rockaway sometime. Beachfront property surrounded by filth and crime. Hempstead has a fair number of “major” businesses due mostly to the fact that relatively speaking, its a “new” ghetto. It used to be all middle and upper middle class white back in the day, but was chosen by someone(s) as a dumping ground for hispanic and black filth. The businesses just havent closed shop yet, mostly due to one of the largest police presences on LI.

    • Jefferson

      I live in the Bay Area and we do not have any middle class Black neighborhoods here. All of the Black neighborhoods here are miniature size versions of Haiti, meaning very low income, filled with dirty looking housing projects that have graffiti everywhere.

      Does Long Island have middle class Black neighborhoods ?

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  • Katherine McChesney

    Your boss was wrong to make you deliver free food ‘because the first delivery was cold’. Not only did you get robbed of a tip your boss robbed you of salary and gas money. He should have handled that matter differently.

  • Funruffian

    Does anyone here remember an old sign posted in restaurants, “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone”? I know this doesn’t apply to post 1965 America, but I think it needs to be observed and practiced in America again. If businesses want to survive and reduce liability they should have that God given right.

  • Vanessa

    “Black folks don’t tip, and so managers can’t maintain a quality staff.
    And if they can’t maintain a quality staff, they can’t maintain a
    quality restaurant.”

    I can verify that. I used to deliver pizza and this was a fact every delivery person knew and would talk about. None of the drivers wanted to deliver to the blacks, and most of the time would take their orders last on every run (why rush and put them first on the list when they don’t tip anyway?)

    Black people don’t tip white drivers. Period. They sometimes tip asians (don’t know about other blacks since we didn’t have any.)

    My experience delivering pizzas to black helped mold me into a white nationalist. I tried being nice and friendly, but no matter what tact I took with blacks, they never tipped and were generally rude for no good reason.

    But instead of blaming myself like DWL’s, I developed a deep-seated hatred and loathing of black people as a result.

    In a sense, I’m grateful for the experience. If not for that, I wouldn’t have become the proud “racist” that I am.