Mother Killed After She Denies Man Romantic Access to Underage Daughter

My Fox Phoenix, April 2, 2013

Maricopa County Sheriff’s detectives are investigating a murder that happened late Monday night near Powell and 2nd Street.

Authorities say an argument ensued after the suspect, 25-year-old Jose Zarate, went to 31-year-old Maria Saucedo’s home around 9:30 p.m.

Jose Zarate

Jose Zarate

When the two began fighting about Zarate wanting to have a romantic relationship with Saucedo’s 13-year-old daughter, he pulled out a rifle and shot her in the chest at close range–in the presence of the teen.

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“How awful this is that a mother loses her life in the process of defending her daughter’s honor,” said Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

On Wednesday, deputies arrested Zarate.  He was found at his home.

Deputy Joaquin Enriquez stated, “Sheriff’s deputies say Zarate is a non-U.S. citizen who has been living in the country without proper authorization.”

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  • thurlow

    But, but, but, but …. in Tijuana 13yrs olds are considered spinsters if they haven’t been with at least three men. The joys of multiculturalism.

    • The__Bobster

      13-year-old daughter? Well, the age of consent in Mejico IS 12.

      • Sloppo

        I didn’t believe you. I thought you were full of it. I went to wikipedia and found this … “Typically, Mexican states have a “primary” age of consent (which may be as low as 12),…”

        • Where there are Mexicans, there is Mexico.

          • Alexandra Roderick

            ti l I lo ok e d a t t he d ra f t f ou r $ 8 0 4 8, I d i d n o t b e li ev e t ha t…m y… f at he r i n l a w a c tu al e y b ri ng i n g h o m e m o n e y p a r t t i m e a t t he r e c o m p u t a r.. t h er e d a d s b u d d y h a s b e e n d oi ng th is f or o n ly 1 4 m o n t h s a nd j u s t no w c le ar d th e m o rg ag e o n t h ei r v i ll a a n d p ur ch as e d t he ms el ve s a S a a b 9 9 T ur b o. t h i s i s w he re I w e nt , Bi g 3 1 . c o m

        • Then there’s one which is listed a “puberty”. So, as some girls hit puberty as young as 9 or 10, or rarely, even younger, …….. well, you figure it out.

        • The__Bobster

          Never doubt The Bobster.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          It varies a little from state-to-state in Mexico, but nowhere there is it higher than 14.

      • Hugh Mann

        What has consent got to do with anything? 😉

        • Barbara Billingsley

          Consent is merely an unnecessary formality.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            Just as rape is “sex without proper authorization.”

          • MBlanc46

            Undocumented sex?

          • Bad_Mr_Frosty

            I buddy of mine used to say (jokingly) “It’s not rape if you yell “Surprise!” when you jump out the bushes, then it’s just surprise sex”

    • Erasmus

      The celebration of a latino girl’s 15th birthday, Quinceaneara, is basically a public recognition that she’s now beddable.

      • MBlanc46

        It’s a coming out party to get her married before she gets knocked up.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          “It’s a coming out party to get her married before she is noticeably knocked up.”

          There; I fixed it.

      • diablo

        Actually I think the AOC should be more in line with biology, most girls are physically ready for sex at 15-16 years old.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          Physically, but not emotionally. If some guy in his mid 20s is after my daughter in just over nine years when she’s 15, he’s going to receive an education about electricity well beyond what Ben Franklin ever imagined.

      • Svigor

        And that’s for the more upscale latino crowd.

  • edie

    we don’t need no stinkin’ badges………… or different opinions, or argumentative women…..

    or no gringos………….blahblahblah

  • Guest

    Okay!! Okay!! Message recieved!! Looking into his eyes, his drunk and drug sodden eyes, maybe I do need more than a mere .38.

    • RisingReich

      at least a .40 – .45 may be better if you can handle it.

  • Biff_Maliboo

    Family values.

    Innate conservatives.

    Only wanna cross the border to open Chik-fil-A franchises.

    And so forth…

  • Zimriel

    I’ve met some of these madrecitas. I’m surprised she didn’t shoot him first. (And disappointed.)

    Maybe she *was* acculturated here.

  • So CAL Snowman

    So is this a case of an “undocumented” shooting?

    • Katherine McChesney

      Undocumented Democrat shooting.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      Termination of life without proper authorization.

  • Katherine McChesney

    How does one “pull out a rifle”? ;>

  • Michael_C_Scott

    “Non US-citizen who has been living in the country without proper authorization.”

    Let’s just call this murderous pedophile an “illegal alien” and have done with it, shall we?

    • Svigor

      Criminal Alien. Remember, no one is illegal!

  • The__Bobster

    Deputy Joaquin Enriquez stated, “Sheriff’s deputies say Zarate is a non-U.S. citizen who has been living in the country without proper authorization.”
    ____________

    So many words to describe an illegal alien without calling him one.

  • mobilebay

    Congratulations to the deputies for coming up with another euphemism for illegal alien..non-US citizen. This low-life doesn’t deserve another minute on this earth.

  • Tomasso

    This time tommorow a new law will be passed and the legal age of consent here in the states will be 13. That way we do not offend anyones culture and beliefs. Oh and it will also be mandatory that we all learn Spanish so we can all communicate and become enlightened by the same culture that has brought beheadings, sex slaves and bullets to the chest for not allowing me to have sex with your underaged daughter. FML!!!!!

    • Michael_C_Scott

      You forget that the Muzzies would like the age of consent reduced to nine.

      • Sloppo

        That’s true. The pedophile pirate established that precedent and a billion followers consider him to be “humanity’s highest example”.

    • anton drexler

      Spanish is worth learning for Cervantes. You’re right about Mexico, but Spain produced one of the gem civilizations of the white western world.

      • Pelayo

        Exactly. Let’s not confuse nor juxtapose Spain with certain parts of Latin America.

        Cervantes was only one of many. He may be the only one about whom many Americans know anything thanks to the musical.

        • Non Humans

          That and most Spanish women (natives of Spain) are H A W T!!!

          • MBlanc46

            Gorgeous women, all right, but a backward country that only made itself a world power with North American gold and silver. When that was gone, it slipped back into insignificance.

          • convairXF92

            Read James Michener’s *Iberia*, which claims that the importation of wealth not a result of “productive work”–e.g., Western Hemisphere gold and silver–would create an inflation that would reduce Spain from the richest country in the world to one of the poorest in the world.

            (I think this also is a good analogy for some other “issues” with the human condition. The fat black mamas here are being fed “wealth” not a product of their own productive work–not just welfare, but familiarity with white people’s goodies that blacks never would have been able to invent or produce, all the bright-color and sweet-scented shopping-mall items for example–and so suffer from an “inflation” in self-view, that acts like a biochemical antagonist to nullify any incentive to acquire genuine wealth-producing skills. )

          • Michael_C_Scott

            I was a history minor as a university undergrad, and Spain’s importation of gold and silver achieved exactly what you have described. The initial hyperinflation in the price of goods and services was confined to Spain, with the result that Spain became a huge importer of manufactures from elsewhere, including the various German principalities, which prior to then had not been major exporters. Tours of museums in Spain and other old Hapsburg possessions show large quantities of German-made weapons and armor.

          • Svigor

            To you. No, I don’t think “most” Spanish women are hot, nor do most men.

            Most Spanish women are average.

          • convairXF92

            The poorer Spanish women have an obesity problem. Decades ago, under the Franco regime when Catholic prohibition of divorce was the law of the land, Spanish wives ate to their hearts’ content, as their husbands couldn’t leave them no matter how ugly they got. Today, over-intake of calories is still common in low-income Andalucia–google up some images of middle-aged flamenco singers and dancing families. It’s the men too. Terremoto (“Earthquake”) — his moniker reflects his girth, not just his vocal power.

            Many Spanish women are solid-faced and heavy-eyebrowed, features which look even worse with fat added.

      • josh

        Dont forget Shakira!

    • NOTbilingual

      “it will also be mandatory that we all learn Spanish”

      In many places from schools to grocery stores it already is mandatory that employees are “bilingual”; as in Spanish/English bilingual as a condition of employment. They now define the desired bilingual as Spanish/English, because I had a friend several years ago who filled out an application, and she put down (truthfully) that she was trilingual. They were happy to hire her until at the interview they learned that in her case, trilingual meant she spoke English, German and French! All this in Washington State, mind you–not California or Texas.

      • MBlanc46

        There won’t be a law mandating Spanish, but it will become increasingly impossible to do business if you’re not bilingual.

    • MBlanc46

      The Spanish part, absolutely. The age of consent, no. Gender still trumps race, and the feminists won’t let that happen.

      • josh

        Feminists only care about the WHITE man, Blancie!

  • bigone4u

    I guarantee you the age of consent will be lowered to 12 in heavily Hispanic states like California. Between the sexual libertines, the gays and lesbians, and the Hispanics, say good-bye to any legal protections for your daughters and sons. In fact, kiss anything farewell resembling the Western system of morality. Living in a heavily Hispanic area of Texas as I do now, I am sick of the lying, the rudeness, the cheating, the thievery, the rape, the pedophilia, the drunkenness, the loud obnoxious behavior, and so much more. Let’s gets these thugs out of here now.

    • gemjunior

      Yeah, and after they lower the age of consent to 12 pretty soon they will start other uncivilized craziness like eating our hearts after offering them to the God of Corn or whatever.

      • bigone4u

        Don’t give them ideas. Besides, are you old enough to remember the old multicult TV margarine ad: “you call it corn, we call it maize.” It would be the god of maize.

    • Zimriel

      Hide yo’ husbands too . . .

  • MikeS

    Another winner.

  • Sloppo

    He just came here to do jobs that most Americans won’t do like child molesting, murder, and rape.

    • Oil Can Harry

      How dare you and the rest of the Amren extremists criticize this DREAMer!
      Undocumented workers like him are making our country more vibrant and diverse.

  • “Sheriff’s deputies say Zarate is a non-U.S. citizen who has been living in the country without proper authorization.” Ah, I see we’ve moved on from undocumented immigrant. Now it’s unauthorized, non-US citizen. Just as the Africans went from colored to negro to African American. Contact the senoras relatives in Old Mexico, give them a time, then drop him off at the border crossing and cattle prod him back over. Let Mexican nature take it’s course.

    • Svigor

      Negro, colored, Afro-American, black, African-American, black again.

      You left out a couple. The faster the criminal has to change his name, the worse he is.

  • Michael Ryan

    he neads a burning tire thrown over his neck

    • LaSantaHermandad

      The Apache used to bury their enemies up to their necks then smear their faces with honey or some other sweet substance and let the ants take care of him. A variation on that using his genitals would be appropriate for rapists.

      • deathpenaltynow

        Wrap this miscreant in a green (uncured) hide and set it out in the sun. As the sunlight dries the hide, it shrinks. The rapist-killer is slowly strangled/suffocated over the course of several hours. And if he’s the least bit claustrophobic… After sundown you have a nice neat package ready for burial.
        A couple of well-publicized executions of this nature would have the effect of dramatically reducing such crimes.

        • alpo60

          I remember reading somewhere that the German SS in certain countries would make a paste of flour, salt and water. They would then smear this on the genitalia of certain prisoners. Then, after drying, allow goats to use them as salt licks.

      • Michael Ryan

        i like Saddams hanging them upside down and getting out the acetylene torch

  • Michael Ryan

    just make sure you all;l visit the good sheriffs website and donate he is being targeted by obama for a recall

  • Aspiring rapper

    “the two began fighting about Zarate wanting to have a romantic relationship with Saucedo’s 13-year-old daughter…” Romantic relationship? With a 12 yr old?

    I guess typing “sex” is just too incriminating when journalists are describing hispanic statutory rape. It’s OK, he’s just “romantic”, Latin Lover and all that.

    • MBlanc46

      It’s not just this case. The word “sex” is returning to the status it had in the 1950s: not to be mentioned in polite company. When you’re filling out a form and they want to know whether you’re male or female (i.e., which sex) the heading is Gender.

      • Aspiring rapper

        That’s because the trannies lobbied to have sex separated from gender, so the forms ask for gender now. Gender is supposedly the society-created expression of sex roles, but a male sexed person can supposedly be female gender because he feels all womanly inside. More liberal claptrap.

        • MBlanc46

          I don’t know that the trannies had much to do with it. “Gender” came to replace “sex” decades ago. It coincided with feminism, but I don’t know that feminism is the cause. The notion of social constructionism, which is fundamental to feminism, works much better with gender than with sex, but that’s probably too theoretical to have been a factor. It might just be good old fashioned middle-class delicacy (and feminism, of course, is very middle class).

  • Barbara Billingsley

    More Spaniard family values?

    Oh dear, yet another miscegenation mishap. . .

    • anano

      You’re kidding right? He’s mexican not “spaniard”….. Spaniards don’t shoot moms in chest with rifles.. Nor are Spanish values the same as Aztec or mestizo values, in fact spaniards are Europeans in case you weren’t aware.

      • MBlanc46

        Spain is in Europe technically. There’s a saying that Africa starts at the Pyrenees. 700 years of Berber dominance left it’s mark.

  • Magician

    A fifty year old African man physically abuses his 27 year old girlfriend

    A twenty five year old illegal alien murders a thirteen year old girl’s mother with a rifle right in front of her daughter because her mother refused to allow him to make advances at her thirteen year old daughter

    What a wonderful world

  • a multiracial individual

    25?

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Not only 25, but just think: Handgun Control Incorporated considers this vicious goon a “child” for the purpose of compiling statistics on firearms-related crimes.

      Perhaps he should be sent to bed without supper, and be grounded with no TV or video games for a week.

  • Ralph

    All involved are Latinos. They are not our people. It’s not our problem. Practice non-interference with those alien to us.

    • Bill

      Wrong. We need to interfere to the extent we forcibly deport ALL of them. If they return, we consign them to one of the new segregated prisons in my plan (and dreams)…..one of the all BLACK prisons and put them in general population. Word gets out on that, they’d not be coming over the border ever again.

  • Luca

    Luca reporting here for MyFox Phoenix: “A 25-year old illegal alien, degenerate, low-life, scumbag, pedophile, wanted to rape a 13-year old girl and when her illegal alien mother resisted, the POS murdered her in cold blood. We should castrate the bastard and hang him out in the desert as a warning for future invaders.”

    Now isn’t my version much better than the mainstream, PC, liberal BS being fed to the sheeple and useful voting idiots?

    • Gerónimo Anónimo

      The vultures should be cleaning up what’s left of him as we speak.

  • 1proactive2

    Another undocumented Democrat kills.

  • More of those “natural conservative” values, right?

  • brengunn

    Did he think this would endear him to his young girl friend? Sounds a bit self defeating to me.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Zarate’s a natural Democrat; they always double-down on proven failure, too.

      “Hmmm… Rape of a child isn’t going to work out today, so I’ll try murder.”

      In Zarate’s defense, he probably wasn’t any more emotionally mature than 13 himself.

      • Bill

        WHITE 13 year olds don’t routinely go around shooting mothers who deny them their daughters. He has no defense.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          Good point. We’ll have to use 13 as an upper limit.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    “Mother Killed After She Denies Man Romantic Access to Underage Daughter”

    Nope. Should read:

    Mother Killed by Ilegal Immigrant Pedophile after She Denise Man Access to her Daughter

    Fixed.

    Bon

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    This demented pervert didn’t want to date the 13-year old, he wanted to RAPE her. But then he was only abiding by the customs and laws of his own country which we are told to “tolerate” and “respect,” because, after all, ALL cultures are equally valid (aren’t they?)

    From Stand With Arizona

    The sick culture of Mexico, disgustingly has a minimal age of consent for sex of TWELVE, and rarely prosecutes child rapes of even younger than that. Punishments for rape and sexual assaults are just minor slaps on the wrist. Many times the rapist just has to pay a small fine or sit in jail for a day. And if they marry the victim, they are completely let off the hook.

    ‘How awful this is that a mother loses her life in the process of defending her daughter’s honor,’ said Sheriff Joe Arpaio.’

    And the Gang of 8 would give this twisted pedophile illegal alien amnesty.

    Anyone here still support Rubio?

    Bon

    • me

      This is what’s going to be commonplace….get ready for more ‘diversity’.

    • convairXF92

      Oaxaca state has the custom of “rapto” — look it up. A bill to ban it came up in the local legislature: one of the bill’s opponents declared that rapto was “romantic”.

  • LaSantaHermandad

    José looks as though he got “tuned up” a little bit. They should have killed the ugly “putamadre” right on the spot.

  • RHG

    This is what John McCain and his henchmen want living next to door to you and me.

  • Bill

    Does he have some kind of skin disease, or did the cops tune him up a little? 🙂

  • Don’t be so hard on the guy. At least he killed one of his own.

  • Greg Thomas

    “Deputy Joaquin Enriquez stated, “Sheriff’s deputies say Zarate is a non-U.S. citizen who has been living in the country without proper authorization.”

    That’s the politicially correct way of saying he’s an illegal invader!

  • Erasmus

    I recall hearing on the radio about a local 17 yo girl murdered by her jealous older boyfriend, when she broke off their relationship. I remember thinking: I’ll bet he’s Hispanic. Later reports said that he’d been caught fleeing to Mexico.

    Latino family values is a contradiction in terms.

  • Erasmus

    So where are the platoons of bulldykes to teach these family-values democrats how to be PC? Latinos think women are only for bedding, cooking dinner and raising children. Most are more racist than any klansman and more resistant to being educated than any ghetto child.
    Asset to the country? No way. Send them all back and build the fence. If we don’t our descendants will be cursing us for generations to come.

  • francisco

    This is normal historical Mexican culture.Will liberals demand it remain the same or change?

    • Michael_C_Scott

      That will depend on whether it’s their daughters or yours and mine we’re discussing. Remember: when the left says “Diversity is good for children”, they mean other people’s kids and never their own.

  • Angry White Woman

    Too bad the law allowing illegal invaders to have guns hasn’t passed yet, The mother could have…oh wait, one of the illegal invaders DID have a gun. Gee, I wonder how that happened… (sarc/off)

  • inmate 173855

    Anyone know which penal institution this slime is headed for? Just askin.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Somewhere in the state of Arizona; that’s all. Zarate won’t be designated until after conviction and sentencing, and he’ll probably get a medical checkup and some psych tests to help the ADoC staffers decide.

      They may look into his drug-use history, but I doubt in much detail. The sentence-reduction programs most states have for druggies tend to be for first-time non-violent offenders, rather than murdering pederasts.

  • T_Losan

    “Romantic access”? “non-US citizen living in the country without proper authorization”? Reading a newspaper is going to require a Newspeak-English dictionary pretty soon.

  • Adios Amigo!

    Looks like he accidentally hit his head getting into the police cruiser. Well at least they got him before he could breed.

  • George White

    The age of consent in mehico is 12.