Managers and Skilled Workers Make up Bulk of Far Right Supporters

Tom Whitehead, Telegraph (London), March 7, 2013

The study found the image of young unemployed people alienated by tough economic times and turning to the anti-Muslim and anti-immigration group was a myth.

In fact half of sympathizers are in full time work, almost one in five is university educated and more than two thirds own their own home.

The report, by the think tank Chatham House, warns ministers and those combating extremism need to reassess who they target.

Its author, Dr Matthew Goodwin, also warns that the EDL is part of a new breed of far right extremism that is more “confrontational and unpredictable” and more likely to support violence on the streets.

He describes the new groups as “counter-Jihad” and said supporters believe violence between white Britons and Muslims was not only justified but imminent.

More than 1,666 people were polled for the study, of which 298 identified themselves as EDL supporters.

The report, The Roots of Extremism, found 53 per cent of sympathisers were in professional, management or non-manual jobs and another quarter were in skilled work.

Only three per cent were unemployed and 60 per cent were aged over 45.

Groups like the EDL also shun images such as “racial supremacism” and actively sought to recruit people from Jewish, Sikh, Pakistani, Christian and gay communities, the report said.

Dr Goodwin said: “Some of the best known stereotypes about counter-Jihad supporters are wrong.

“Policy approaches that frame the counter-Jihad challenge as being primarily a phenomenon among deprived working class communities should be reassessed.”

He said supporters are also not anti-democracy and are more likely to vote than the average citizen.

However, he also warned that the new forms of far right extremism, like the EDL, are more “confrontational, chaotic and unpredictable” that established extremist political parties.

Many who identify with them are more likely to favour street confrontations with Islamic groups than political battles.

“Most appear united by the belief that a period of group conflict and chaos is imminent,” the report said.

They “appear united by the expectation that the country will soon descend into communal violence and are more likely than their fellow citizens to view violence as a justifiable course of action to counter ‘extremists’”.

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  • “Most appear united by the belief that a period of group conflict and chaos is imminent,” the report said.

    Now where would anyone get an idea like that? (Hint: July 7, 2005)

  • Felix_M

    It’s because people on the right have to be smart enough to have broken out of the regimented gulag-style group think required to be a member of the left.

  • dd121

    If there is a general breakdown of society, I wonder if whites will unite at the neighborhood level to form a self-defense force? The post apocalyptic TV series, Revolution, has wise blacks in charge. No way.

    • bubo

      I tried watching that abomination of a train wreck once. I had to turn it off when they started swarshbuckling.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Yeah it’s pretty bad on multiple levels. Check out “Vikings” on the history channel. Not a black face yet (hey, it;s Bongo the Nubian, who somehow made it up to Scandinavia…no, none of that revisionist pop propaganda. Hard dark ages vintage peckerwoods and their hard, beautiful, women – good stuff).

        • Cape to Cairo

          You mean Morgan Freeman isn’t narrating the Viking series and providing the “wise negro” perspective on European barbarism?

          • NeanderthalDNA

            NO!!!!!!!! Would NEVER have recommended it if, LOL!

            It’s good stuff. Only thing that bums me out a bit is watching good white folk mistreating each other, considering our times, but hey, that’s history.

        • saxonsun

          Our race needs more of that old Viking fighting spirit.

    • The__Bobster

      At least some of them are truly evil, something you don’t see very often on TV.

    • NYB

      TV? What’s that?

      Is television still around?

  • David Ashton

    How English are multiracial gays?

    • Cape to Cairo

      Which English are you referring to? The ones that ruled the world through their empire and brought civilization to the masses, or the ones whose progressive elite pander daily to every non-traditional, non-white, non-British, grievance group and plan the demise of their own country? The same can be said about South Africa, Canada, America, Australia and many others.

      • George

        My boyfriend is bi-racial. If anything, he’s more of a racial realist than I am.

        Unfamiliar blacks treat him as ‘one of them’. They act ghetto in his presence. It drives him batsh*t insane when they do.

        He was raised by his mother and (white) step-father. He completely rejects anything ‘black’. Like the reformed smoker, or the born-again Christian, he has grown in to and adopted white values with more zeal than most whites.

  • “Groups like the EDL also shun images such as “racial supremacism” and actively sought to recruit people from Jewish, Sikh, Pakistani, Christian and gay communities..”
    No no no no no no no… please stop That’s what this world needs– more input from gay jews. Thanks– they’ve already been very helpful. Our world wouldn’t be the same without them.

    • The__Bobster

      It’s foolish to recruit from the groups that seek to destroy you just so that you can appear to be “tolerant”. Their moles will undermine you from within.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        I’ve known gays who are proud of their white heritage, don’t have any agenda beyond legal recognition of civil union, and are capable people.

        If they are white and want to be a part of the struggle on their people’s side…

        Welcome I say. Many are salt of the earth types.

        • George

          This university-educated, gay man wants exactly that.

          Most gay men I know do recognise racial differences. We understand that blacks and hispanics are NOT our friends. Prop 8 passed in California only because blacks & hispanics ‘came out’ in droves to vote for Obama in 2008. I drink whiskey, straight up, but after a few Cosmos, most gay men will tell you that they’re not fans of minorities. They may even tell you of the beatings or discrimination they’ve faced from the ‘diversity rainbow’.

          A very friendly word of advice to my white brothers in here: white gays & lesbians are not your enemies. It’s one thing to express arguments & distaste respectully. When, instead, white nationalists castigate or demonise gays, it drives many away. They migrate to the ‘progressive’ left, and buy in to the myth of ‘minority politics’. Does the fact that most gay men & women *want* to marry (or enter a civil union, or whatever term you want to call it) not tell you that we’re seeking to be a part of social stability? That we WANT to contribute to and enhance that stability?

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I’ve known many like you. Got a pair of lesbian friends trying to get their daughters through public school without being knocked up or utterly corrupted by the congoids.

            White gays and lesbians are my family like all other Whites. Not unlike my literal family, there are some I detest and some I adore, many I can take or leave. Nothing to do with the sexuality thing.

            Brothers and sisters in the great family. Gays have stood in shield walls and phalanxes and given their lives for their people, for their beliefs.

            Welcome and keep subverting, networking. Our movement is changing for the better and you are much needed. You are family, you are folk. Welcome.

          • saxonsun

            That would be me–thanks for the support.

        • watling

          I agree. The Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn was openly gay. He opposed Muslim immigration into the Netherlands. Who knows what he would have gone on to achieve if he hadn’t been murdered by a libtard psycho.

  • bigone4u

    Extremism is the leftist/progressive agenda that is destroying the British culture and people. How dare the progs claim that fighting that agenda is extremist. How dare they! And I love it that the lying mischaracterization of the British nationalists as thugs and idiots has been disproved. I think we’re finally learning how to overcome Alinksky’s rules for radicals, which emphasizes mocking and lying about the enemies of the far left.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      We need to turn his rules against his cause. The gyrations of the hypocritical liblefty abomination offer many openings to ridicule and humor.

      Catch them in their hypocrisy and mock them. They are intellectually bankrupt and know it deep down. The more they fail the more vicious they will get.

      Yes indeed, let’s peruse the detestable Mr. Alinsky’s advice and take it to heart. Let’s start having some fun…

      • bigone4u

        Over on Huffpost the last two days the libs have been mocking the white rural kid who died while fourwheeling. He was a reality TV star. The libs really want whites who live a white lifestyle dead and I’ve been calling them on their hatred. Like you say, they are vicious. What decent person would mock a dead youth for liking a free, white, mountain lifestyle?

        • NeanderthalDNA

          “What decent person would mock a dead youth for liking a free, white, mountain lifestyle?”

          I kind of play along with two pot Jim Carey’s up to a point. Laughing, nodding like I’m one of them as they make fun of the stupid redneck. Then I drop something like, “It’s always funny when a redneck dies a tragic, accidental death. Hey, one step closer to gun control and a perfect world, eh?”

          Reactions can be entertaining and enlightening, from shame to anger to discomfort to…obtuse, gleeful, obliviousness, the most disturbing.

  • The__Bobster

    Leftists don’t like the fact that most of the “extremists” are, in fact, quite average. And being average means that there can be a large number of them, a lot more of them than there are leftists. Thus, libtards do everything in their power to marginalize them and make them think that they are the minority.

    • rightrightright

      The EDL holds its rallies on weekends for the simple reason that participants are earning their living during the week. Of course nationalists work!

  • Anonymous By Necessity

    Those who identify with the EDL are “more likely to favour street confrontations with Islamic groups than political battles.”

    That would seem pretty obvious to me, given that it’s apparent that the police on the street all the way up to the top levels of government bend over at every opportunity for their Islamic betters. Women expressing their opinions like Emma West get railroaded by the system while the Rotherham police are afraid of arresting Muslims who are grooming and raping underage white English girls for fear of appearing racist.

    The EDL knows that there will be *no* political solutions that will be in their favor.

  • winger100

    This article is packed with approved Newspeak. I will decode the garbage for you.

    “anti-Muslim” : One who does not approve of forced domination by Muslims in a non-Muslim country.

    “anti-immigrant”: One opposed to ethnic cleansing by mass population transfer of citizens from another country. May also be opposed to rape and murder.

    “far right extremist”: Anyone who does not unquestioningly support the Labour party.

    “unpredictable”: Anyone who does not roll over and die when a Left-wing Nutzi demands it.

  • Cape to Cairo

    “The study found the image of young unemployed people alienated by tough economic times and turning to the anti-Muslim and anti-immigration group was a myth.

    In fact half of sympathizers are in full time work, almost one in five is university educated and more than two thirds own their own home.”

    Just because the study found out that the average member of the EDL is not what they thought they were does not mean that the author or his political allies will suddenly embrace the EDL. Instead, they could take the results of this study and realize they will have to castigate and marginalize the EDL from a different angle. For instance, threaten their jobs, their property, trash good men’s reputations in public, etc.

  • LHathaway

    “How dare the progs claim that fighting that (their) agenda is extremist. How dare they!”

    Well, it’s easy for them to make that claim. . .

  • rightrightright

    This Goodwin (unworthy of his historic name) earns his bread and butter from his Left pay masters by bashing the protest parties, notably the BNP. That party has now imploded but in its day was always, always demonised as vile, odious, street thugs, violent, shaven headed louts, knuckledraggers etc. Now, he’s moved on to denigrate the EDL.

    “EDL is part of a new breed of far right extremism that is more “confrontational and unpredictable” and more likely to support violence on the streets.”

    Meaning to me that his frequent descriptions of the BNP as being such were false, libellous and wicked. But then, he was just doing the job the Left pays him to do.

  • At least the article makes the distinction that the EDL style organisations are “counter-jihad” and not Nationalists. This is precisely because the organisations like that are NOT British Nationalist in any true sense of the word.

    • Cannot Tell

      Upon hearing the words “English Defense League”, I thought they were another white nationalist political party. You have no idea how dismayed I am to read that they “actively seek to recruit people from Jewish, Sikh, Pakistani, Christian and gay communities.”

      • Whilst I would personally not seek to enter a fight or squabble with the members and supporters of the EDL, I have always made the distinction between what they are and what a nationalist (white nationalist / identitarian / New Right/ race realist/ paleoconservative etc) is. I am fortunate enough to discern the rough differences between all those positions.

        I am sorry to dismay you with the news that confirms the nature of the EDL as an organisation. As I say, many of the rank and file supporters may be approachable and may be much more open to proper nationalism, but the leaders and the movement as a whole, when taken as an entity, are in my view far removed from the full ticket.

        My estimation of the EDL is that they are a Jewish backed organisation serving a purpose to lead people up the garden path and away from the real cause, and one which essentially promotes multiracialism, multiculturalism, mixed race marriages, unlimited ‘gay rights’, general internationalism and globalism, “laddish” poor behaviour and all the other forms of cultural marxist poison that currently represents itself as modern society in the second-rate nations like ours has become here in England.

        So, what force has arrived in England and Wales the last 40 years or so that is increasingly multiplying, that puts all these things at risk? Islam. That is therefore their main focus as I see it – Islam as an invading and conquering religious doctrine that runs counter to the kinds of values the EDL seem to promote and associate with.

        Of course, Islam IS a threat to the future of Britain and it can do nothing else other than transform it. Strip away some of the blind fanaticism of the EDL when it comes to Islam and they are very much on the same score as nationalists when it comes to generally not wanting Islam to spread and dominate in England.

        So yes, on that, they generally share our allegiance and support. Some interests overlap. They will desire immigration restriction (from Muslim countries) for example. Some people and issues in nationalism and the “counter-jihad” overlap, but they are ultimately two different things entirely.

        Some used to claim they “boxing clever” by saying they are not “racist” and having (or seeking) all these “gay divisons/sections” and “Sikh divisons” etc and holding up the arms of Blacks and Pakistanis and proclaiming they are “As English as we are!”……..But No. They are not “boxing clever” – they genuinely seem to believe this kind of tripe – and sometimes even harass and malign those of a true nationalistic persuasion as “muppets” and “idiots” etc! .

        It is all a bit of a muddle for some people, they all try and find their own way. On the face of it, the EDL is not may way and not my fight, aside from the shared desire to prevent Islam being dominant in Britain.

        I would not go out of my way to run the rank and file EDL people down, and have no desire for fighting amongst ourselves, but counter-jihad movements are not nationalists, either in terms of race realism or other ideological and political positions historically representative of our cause.

  • A couple of years ago there was another report done about the British National Party membership, in which they also tagged UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party).

    I seem to remember that they stated that the membership spanned all classes and was not as niche to the ‘poor white working classes’ as they thought. They also found that these groups were some of the most well informed and well read individuals when it came to current affairs, issues, things going on around them, etc, when compared to those of all the other parties.

    It was a challenge to their “dumb, uneducated, numbskull, knuckle-dragger, bigoted, moron” stereotype they usually like to peddle out – often accompanied by other fantasies of the far-left, that they only supported these parties because “they saw harder working immigrants compete for jobs” or “they were put down the housing waiting list”.

    The idea that people could be against it all on ideological and principled grounds often escapes these “academics” and so-called “experts” on the “Far Right”.

  • Dude

    The EDL are Zionist pawns.

  • PesachPatriot

    I don’t really follow british politics too closely but this EDL group seems like ok people to me….just average brits who don’t want the country that gave the world shakespeare, robin hood, king arthur and winston churchill to be over run by people who would start lopping off hands because someone wanted to enjoy a pint of bitters after work. The shenanigans of the muslim patrol that I have read about on this site have probably swelled their numbers….