Will Los Angeles Join Detroit as a Fiscal Zombie City?

Steven Malanga, Real Clear Markets, March 7, 2013

Few people should have been surprised when Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder said last week that he was beginning a state takeover of insolvent Detroit. After all, the city’s schools have been operating under state control since 2009, while Detroit government itself has been running an accumulated deficit since 2005 and papering over its finances with borrowing.

No one would mistake Los Angeles for Detroit, however, and not just because of the weather. Los Angeles is not a fading rustbelt metropolis but a global city, a center of entertainment, finance and trade. But at a forum for mayoral candidates last month, one journalist on the panel of questioners asked the contenders whether they thought Los Angeles faced a real prospect of bankruptcy, and at least two of the candidates agreed it did.

The question didn’t come out of nowhere. Last April, the city’s administrative officer issued a report on Los Angeles’ deteriorating finances and its long-term structural imbalance, which is budget talk for the fact that the city’s projected revenues and spending don’t match up over the coming years. Just to ensure that readers didn’t miss his point, the CAO, Miguel Santana, started his report by recounting the path to insolvency trod by another California city, Stockton, and observed that in that case, “Getting to the doorstep of bankruptcy did not happen overnight.”

Since then, Los Angeles’ political leadership has engineered small changes in its budget, such as less expensive pensions for new workers, but that won’t generate substantial savings for years. Now a new report issued last week by a budget watchdog group, California Common Sense, says that Los Angeles’ current workforce retirement costs alone are so great that reforming then is essential to ‘avoiding insolvency’ in the nation’s third largest city. {snip}

Los Angeles represents the new model of urban distress. That is so because it isn’t coming face-to-face with its crisis after decades of decline spurred by job losses in its single most important industry, as Detroit did with the auto makers. For all of the shortcomings of Los Angeles’ civic leadership, the city also hasn’t endured the political follies of Detroit during its economic decline, like the tenure of Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, dubbed “America’s hip-hop mayor,” who went to jail for obstruction of justice after lying about an extramarital affair in a sex-and texting scandal with a city employee, and who still faces federal charges for extortion, bribery and fraud.

Although Los Angeles hasn’t been rocked by the kind of jobs exit that hit Detroit, the Southern California economy is not robust, and hasn’t been for some time. More to the point, the area’s economy isn’t generating nearly the kind of growth needed to support its rapidly increasing government costs, most especially the cost of employing its workers. Even during the housing bubble-induced economic growth of 2005 through 2007 in Southern California, the greater Los Angeles area never exceeded its jobs peak of 20 years ago. For more than two decades, the area’s economy has just been cycling through eras of boom and bust without any permanent job growth.

The city’s manufacturing economy, which remained vibrant far longer than Detroit’s, has been on a steady decline of late, losing 55 percent of its jobs over 20 years. Nothing has stepped up to take its place. The city’s information industries, a large part of any tech economy, have been stagnant. So has LA’s imposing professional and business service sector, stuck in another 20-year boom and bust cycle that has resulted in no net new jobs. {snip}


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  • thurlow

    With a chief administrative officer like Miguel Santana on the case I am sure LA will be fine. Pesos anyone?

  • Jedi Mind Tricks

    Doubt it, L.A. is an international trade hub. The Gov. would definitely step in. What I see is the Fed.Gov. ceding L.A. and it’s ports to China when we default on the Natl. debt, one step further towards the New World Order comrades….

    • So CAL Snowman

      The port of Los Angeles is already controlled by the Chinese

      • Jedi Mind Tricks

        Yeah, well that’s no suprise, I heard the U.S. has been giving control of all it’s infrastructure, and natural resources, i.e. the great lakes, in exchange for the enormous amount of money “we” owe China.

        • dukem1

          Wai a second! The Great Lakes? I’m from

          Cleveland. Spent a summer working on an ore boat…Never once saw a Chinaman.. What’s going on?!?!?!?

          • Jedi Mind Tricks

            Google U.S. government cedes control of Great Lakes to China.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Long Beach port.

    • Robert Binion

      We will not default, but merely pay them with inflated, worthless currency.

  • MekongDelta69

    Sad to say, but all cities are eventually going to go the way of Detroit.

    • brengunn

      That’s a little pessimistic, don’t you think?

      • The parasites will keep fleeing to healthy hosts.

        • dukem1

          Excellent analogy. Scary tho’ — even to me, and I’ve pretty much abandoned all hope.

    • So CAL Snowman

      Portland, Seattle, and Pittsburgh are all over 85% White and are doing just fine. I suppose it’s just a matter of time before the dusky hordes invade and destroy those cities as well.

      • Triarius

        Portland, Seattle, and Pittsburgh (originally from Pitt) are around 55-65%, and Portland to Seattle are so anti-white they make San Francisco look like the Klan capital. People say retreat the the Pacific Northwest, but that is where our biggest opposition is. The Midwest is our homeland.

        • So CAL Snowman

          You’re right, I got some bad stats on that one!

        • ye ol’ swampyankee

          Agree with you about the midwest, Don’t forget the northeast though. Look at a racial map any notice the highest geographical concentration of Caucasians in the US are in both these regions.Granted, cites within this breadbasket of whiteness are mostly a minority shambles. But fortunately, the non- white threat is largely contained within the urban demographic and occasionally inner ring suburbs.

          So whites and minorities by and large, are already demographically separated from one another to a large extent. Non-whites in the cities/inner rings and whites in the more affluent outer burbs, semi rural and rural areas. This in affect creates a condition of apartheid already in place. A much more favorable condition than segregation as it discourages intermingling between races resulting from the occupation of separate living spaces.


          • Howard W. Campbell

            Indiana is actually a really white state if you exclude Indianapolis, Gary and parts of Fort Wayne. However, West Washington St. in Indianapolis (US 40), looks like Mexico City.

          • Jeff

            I lived in the Indianapolis/Plainfield area for five years (until 2004); at one point, a friend of mine drove me to the 38th Street Flea Market. If someone would have told me we took a wrong turn and ended up in Mexico or Columbia, it would have been difficult not to believe it. I could hardly believe we were still in the United States!

        • Simonetta

          I live in Portland, Oregon, known by its airport terminal name PDX, and the 5city is nowhere near 55-65 percent non-white. Unless you’re defining the wogs as beginning in Calais. It’s a city of neighborhoods and each one has its own character and racial mix. In the Southwest sections of PDX, blacks are about 1 in 100 people. There are many foreign born people, but they are people who have jobs, speak English well, and are civilized sapient beings. Many are individuals who could role-models to our children.

          If you want to live in a place that has a civilized future, I recommend the Pacific Northwest over the Midwest. The Midwest is COLD, and if the topsoil blows away, barren. It was 62 degrees Fahrenheit here today.

          By the way, this Centigrade temperature scale is not really all that good for weather use. Europeans are always telling us that the range of 0 to 100 degrees is totally arbitrary and has no basis in nature. Nonsense, 0 to 100 degrees is the range that a man can do a day’s work outside. Below 0; too cold no matter how many layers of clothes. Above 100 too hot, will get heat stroke if shoveling or gathering. The Fahrenheit scale makes perfect sense to use and we shouldn’t abandon it. Touché, French friends!

          Did I mention that the Midwest is COLD and directly above Mexico, and flat? It’s like living in Poland. In PDX we are surrounded by so many mountains and volcanos that we could isolate ourselves in a global emergency by just cutting off the passes. In fact, in 1996 the city of Portland was cut-off for about 36 hours. Highway mudslides and airport runway flooding.

          • MBlanc46

            Regarding the Midwest, the topsoil hasn’t blown away and we’re one of the richest agricultural regions in the world. We’re sitting on the largest fresh-water supply in the world. The elites have severely damaged our manufacturing, but we still know how to make things. Yeah, the winters can be hellish, but they keep us from becoming effete. I’ll take it over the Pacific Northwest anytime.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            “We’re sitting on the largest fresh-water supply in the world.”

            Maybe not for long:

            1. The Ogallala Aquifer is being drained at a rate of approximately 800 gallons per minute.

            2. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, “a volume equivalent to two-thirds of the water in Lake Erie” has been permanently drained from the Ogallala Aquifer since 1940.

            3. Decades ago, the Ogallala Aquifer had an average depth of approximately 240 feet, but today the average depth is just 80 feet. In some areas of Texas, the water is gone completely.

            4. Scientists are warning that nothing can be done to stop the depletion of the Ogallala Aquifer.

            5. According to a recent National Geographic article, the average depletion rate of the Ogallala Aquifer is picking up speed….

            6. According to the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, the U.S. interior west is now the driest that it has been in 500 years.


            It’s much worse in my home state of California, though and we are already under severe water restrictions in my area:

            It has been estimated that the state of California only has a 20 year supply of fresh water left.


            When ethnic violence breaks out in the Southwest as the US economy fails and chaos ensues, it will be over resources, most importantly water.


          • Michael_C_Scott

            As much as I love your posts and pictures, Bon, please get the heck out of California.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Thanks for your kind sentiments, Mr. Scott. I appreciate it. This issue affects me deeply, all the way down to my bone marrow. It is difficult to suppress the abject rage I feel about what the progs have done to my home state. the “gold” in the Golden State is now Fool’s Gold.

            The past week, I had to report to Kaiser for my 5-year mandated TB test. The waiting room was filled to overflowing with mexicans and Asians, none of whom spoke English well, or at all. Not one White, except for me. I couldn’t help but notice the irony as I sat among coughing, hacking, sick 3rd world people, the very people who brought TB into my state in the first place, some strains of which are now antibiotic resistant.

            When I was finally called, and I walked across the waiting room, I noticed that every eye in the room was on me, as if I were some kind of exotic zoo animal that no one had ever seen before. Some of the stares appeared to be hostile. Ironic considering they came to California because of what we Whites created.

            This is what it’s like to live in California now. The “Gold” in Golden State now Fool’s Gold, the dream of California long gone.

            The good news is a tested negative for exposure to TB. Don’t think I wasn’t sweating it though, because I was. Immigrants from the 3rd world have brought in not only antibiotic-resistant TB but brain worm, leprosy, virulent strains of measles, chagas disease and more.

            Leave California?

            I will be the last rat off the sinking ship.


          • Ted

            I’ve used Kaiser insurance and worked for them as a contractor at one time. It’s just one big festering cesspool of diversity. As a contractor, I felt the same way you did in the waiting room, could count the number of whites around me on 1 hand. The kicker was always receiving the CEO’s email every year about how diversity made them so great….sickening…

          • Jeff

            Bon, I also go to KP in California and I’ve had exactly the same feeling. I’m the only white guy there! If I see a white woman there next time I’ll say hi to you. 🙂

          • MikeofAges

            What about the Great Lakes? A potable but not portable geopolitical asset containing one-fifth of the world’s supply of fresh water. If water is the new oil, the old Northwest Territory is new Saudi Arabia. Do not underestimate the future value of this geopolitical asset.

          • Angry White Woman

            Yes, it’s obvious you live in Portland, since you speak of closing off the passes, thus cutting off the rest of your own state. Like everyone else on here, you seem to think the Seattle-to-Portland coastal area is all there is to the Northwest. May I remind you that of the Tri-state area commonly referred to as the “Northwest” only about 15-20% is this narrow coastal strip. The rest is inland, and conservative. We would like nothing better than for the coastal liberal/loonies to form their own state and leave the rest of us to our, admittedly somewhat Hispanic-heavy, but mostly Black-free, rural demographic. The coastal lib/loons have a majority of population though, and therefore drag the rest of the states of WA and OR along into their insanity, as we can’t get enough voters to hold our own. This inland area has winters as cold and summers as hot as anything the Midwest can throw at you, minus the murderous humidity. People here have (and usually follow) good instincts, racially concerned, and when the western part of the state leaves us alone, we incorporate this commonsense into our laws and the application of such. In short, don’t judge the whole northwest by the crazy cities on the coast.

          • MikeofAges

            The liberal loonies can’t do it on their own.They control a minority bloc vote which tips the balance of power to them when the majority, including the minority community, does not support their actual agenda. Clever game they are playing, though. No one wants to be told they should not exist at all. Not us, so we vote against them. And not the minorities either, so they vote with them. Just once I’d like to see an election turn on the issue who supports and who does not support God, community, family and work (or call it “blood and soil”) as the foundation of human life. Then the liberals would for one blinding moment in their lives see what world they live in.

          • MikeofAges

            Interesting exercise in xenophobia, but your will to survive seems a little lacking, probably because no one ever told you you needed one. Good luck, and who the heck refers to their city by its airport designation. If you have to use something, try you area code.

            Mike of the 425, born in the 312.

        • DeadinDenver

          Affluent White liberals may be smarter then we think. Sure they put Obama stickers on there Volvos but look at there communities like Boulder, Colorado or the state of Vermont there actually far whiter then where many of us who post on this board live.

          • MikeofAges

            Listen up. That’s because they’re adequate and you’re not. So they don’t have to go through the forced processes of social reconstruction you do. But then there’s another question. How many generation of time do they buy for their progeny (not that they really have any. They just recruit from the promising children of the white middle class) by always supporting minority advancement against the interests of relatively disadvantaged whites?

      • aj

        Of course the dusky hoardes have a right to a better life. It is not there fault they live in bad cities and whitey grabbed all the good ones.

        • Seb

          Note that when used in this sense, “grabbed” means “created” and “live” means “forced out Whites with crime and ethnic nepotism”.

    • Triarius

      For once I disagree with you, sir. You assume that the US is 80% black like South Africa. We will balkanize before it is too late, but we are far past thinking whites will keep all 50 states.

      • newscomments70

        When South Africa was white ruled, whites were even a smaller minority, but they controlled the entire country. I believe we can do the same. Perhaps there will be some bantu homelands, but I don’t see us giving away 90% of our landmass. No way Jose, as the saying goes.

        • NYB

          As much as S. African apartheid is popularly condemned, it is the direction immigration is taking us – a racially and economically stratified caste-based country with little social mobility.

          East Indian, Hispanic and Chinese immigrants accept this familiar Third World model. You will hear little complaining from them, which is why the elites want more of them.

          The East Indians and Chinese know they’ll be higher on the social ladder than blacks. They’ll be up near the whites, which is good enough for them.

          It is only whites, and more specifically white nationalists, who are resisting the slide into Third World-ism.

        • Triarius

          I was not including non-whites, but yes, people on this site think we are destined to the same destiny as South Africa when we are 65% of the US. This defeatest attitude is a last resort, not a first. I will do what I can for my people.

          • Nancy Thomas

            I agree. We’re still the majority currently, and we need to fight back and fight back HARD.

          • Bismark

            But what can you do when half the white population are either brain washed or brain dead ?.

          • Non Humans

            Exactly!! Libtardism as a disease is more prevalent than smallpox or the medieval plagues ever were. Even worse, those that are afflicted usually won’t even entertain hearing that a cure exists, let alone have any desire for it…. That is until they have been victims of nonhuman crime, and then even at that, some of those who are terminally libtarded have to be victimized multiple times before they get it. Falling back on that tattered argument of “They’re not all like that”.
            Leaves you no choice but facepalm at them.

          • MikeofAges

            See my reply above.

          • MikeofAges

            If you want to fight back, you have to fight back for education and careers. Not jobs. Careers. Give a man a job and you feed him for a day. Give a man a career and you feed him for a lifetime, maybe for generations.

            Just a note here, but think. Suppose we, and by that I mean white Americans, or native born Americans generally to include competent blacks and others, decided we would take matters into our own hands and provide ourselves training in subjects like mathematics, computer programming and foreign languages outside of “accredited” education. Try to get this training recognized as a basis for hiring or school placement. You’ll see what happens. You’ll see how discrimination law would be used to keep this education from being recognized.

            You might want to know also, and probably don’t, that many of the foreign programmers and engineers who come here in H1-B and other work visas are not trained programmers and engineers at all, Many of them are products of engineering and programming “boot camps” who are sent here by labor contractors as part of “packages” or groups:of workers. They sometimes are products of processes of qualification and training which are not available to us, and which if we instituted for ourselves would not be accepted as valid by our employers.

            This is one of the issues you need to take action on if you are serious. One avenue is legal, and that costs money. If you could get 10 million people to give a $50 a year (i.e. the price of a night or two of pizza and beer) to legal organizations, you could accomplish a great deal. Think what the NAACP did over some decades with probably a lot less. Or, more recently, the feminists and the “green” lobby. This is how the game is played. If you don’t play it that way, you lose.

            And this is not one-sided either, only about whites. All native born workers are likely affected. When the employer decides to bring in foreign workers, it means foreign.

          • Greg Thomas

            I agree, but if we are 65% of the US, how come I’m the only White guy when out in public. I think that number has been tainted by diversity.

      • Bad_Mr_Frosty

        Balkanization is a PC term. Separating into ethnostates is what a 3rd party does to end tribal warfare, like Yugoslavia. In the coming conflict, there will be no 3rd party, no NATO, no UN peacekeepers.

        The tribal warfare will last until one tribe conquers the others, then the fate of the conquered tribe is in the hands of the victor. This is going to be a very old-school and very savage war. There will probably be a black ethnostate, but completely controlled and administered by White Americans, similar to Apartheid.

        • Salarino

          That is an excellent point that you bring up regarding the third-party intervention. I imagine that the blacks would destroy most mid-western and north-eastern cities, but would be able to be confined as it would simply be mass chaos.

          Even with urban warfare the blacks wouldn’t have a chance in the long-run as they lack organization and any true military skills. They would revert back to their natural African state and then we can start fresh.

        • Triarius

          I disagree. Balkanization is not a PC term, it is a way of life. And while there is not a third party currently, there will be as many parties as there allows, be it a pro-white party, a socialist party, a black party, an Atzlan party, etc. Savage? Yes, by modern terms it will be savage. And if there is a black ethnostate it will be controled by the same tribe that started the CPUSA.

        • Felix_M

          There will probably be a black ethnostate, but completely controlled and administered by White Americans, similar to Apartheid.

          If the wogs are lucky.

      • Mr_Blootarsky

        Balkanization will happen much sooner than you think. I predict in the 2020’s. The Hispanics will get the Southwest and California , the Africans will get part of the deep South, the libtards the Northeast .

        • Triarius

          I agree almost 100%. But the libtards will also get the Pacific Northwest because they are anti-white. Seattle and Portland whites are the most commie parts of the US.

      • Bruno

        Without WHITES there is NO PROGRESS.
        What have the Chinese invented since the firecracker?
        black have never invented a thing, as their claims are easily disproven with a patent search and in Affyka they are even less productive.
        Why do all these non whites chase us is it because we are the leaders and do almost everything of value then they come demanding a piece of the pie they never hepped bake

    • John

      Yes, you’re absolutely correct on all points, my friend.

      The fact of the matter is that the society and civilization that we knew is rapidly devolving before our eyes. Consider the radical changes over the past five decades.

      1. Blacks forced into White society as “equals”
      2. Radical acceleration of the legal and illegal immigration of undesirables and miscreants in White societies
      3. Strong encouragement and proliferation of homosexuality and same-sex “marriage”
      4. Advancement of radical feminists with anti-family and anti-male agenda
      5. Radical acceleration, proliferation, and abuse of mind-altering drugs, such as marijuana, alcohol, and prescription meds
      6. Infiltration of Muslims and mosques across the United States
      7. Complete disregard of the Constitution by the government

      All of these undesirable changes and similar changes seem to strongly support the ever-growing need for the owners of the world’s central banks to increase their tax base. There is less resistance against the fiat currencies in the chaos and confusion that is brought about multiculturalism and the destruction of civilization, our system of values, and the core tenets of religion in North America and Europe, even among non-believers.

      This is just the beginning. Conditions will become unimaginably worse in the coming years and decades. It will be extremely difficult for us to mount an organized resistance with drones overhead, all communications tagged and monitored, and leading dissidents routinely imprisoned and killed.

      The world is rapidly becoming a horrible place of fictional horror stories come to life! Perhaps only an extinction-level event from the Heavens can save us now.
      I never dreamed I would live long enough to see 40% of White voters elect a radical Black Muslim who illegally entered the country from Africa and/or Indonesia. Our race is brainwashed and lost beyond imagination.

      • Rick

        Agree with you John. Everyone please Google “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars”. Read sections titled “Security”, “Energy”. “Descriptive Introduction of the Silent Weapon”, Diversion, the Primary Strategy”, “Diversion Summary”, “The Draft”. These sections highlight the document pretty well. This document gives a great insight into the mindset of the elite and their compatriots working in unison for our destruction.

  • No one would mistake Los Angeles for Detroit, however, and not just
    because of the weather. Los Angeles is not a fading rustbelt metropolis
    but a global city, a center of entertainment, finance and trade.

    As if climate makes you exempt from the laws of economics?

    • The__Bobster

      Parasites prefer warmer weather. And entertainment, finance and trade are easily moved in today’s world.

      • a multiracial individual

        I live in S. California. I have had many discussions with people about issues like this. They resent having to support illegals, but they say they would never want to move to a place that has seasons. The weather will not shield against economics. However, I think many taxpayers here are willing to put up with more grotesque treatment before they move, in exchange for nice weather.

      • a multiracial individual

        Sorry, that comment was for Question.

        • Well, if it’s demographically crummy everywhere, you might as well live where it’s nice, as long as you can afford it.

  • PBL

    Too late. Los Angeles is already doomed. The economy will simply move to the OC, following the former residents who have long since left.

  • So CAL Snowman

    Of course LA is going to go down, it’s almost entirely brown. If all of the White people in LA county moved out tomorrow, the city would die in a week.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    The more Hispanic immigration we have, legal or illegal, the more cities this will happen to.

    • Luca

      Minorities are the ingredients, Liberals are the chefs.

  • a multiracial individual

    In LA they recently denied a sales tax increase. Of course, income tax increases always seem to pass easier. Sales tax is one of the few taxes that welfare cheats have to pay.

  • SargeInCharge

    Pat Buchanan’s “To Live and Die in L.A.”…

    The new face of America is taking shape. Sifting through Census data from Year 2000, three writers at the Los Angeles Times have seen the new America in their own vast sprawling county. What kind of country will our grandkids live in? If immigration is not brought under control, tomorrow’s America will resemble Los Angeles today — a multicultural, polyglot nation, most of whose people trace their ancestry to the Third World, and a country where the extremes of wealth and poverty mirror the Third World.

    While native-born Americans just completed two of the most prosperous decades in our history, Los Angeles is becoming a separate nation. — In the 1990s, poverty in Los Angeles County did not decline, it rose 28 percent. Some 1.6 million people there now live beneath the poverty line. In Orange County, south of Los Angeles, once the bastion of Goldwater Republicanism, the poverty rate soared 44 percent. East of Los Angeles, in the Inland Empire counties of San Bernardino and Riverside, on the road to Palm Desert and Nevada, poverty soared by 51 percent and 63 percent.

    In the Reagan Decade, median income in Los Angeles County rose a smart 21.5 percent. But in the Clinton decade, median income sank 8 percent from $45,600 to $42,200. In the city of Los Angeles, it fell even further. And the new poverty is mirrored in the dramatic population shift. — During the 1990s, the Latino population of Los Angeles County soared 27 percent to 4.2 million. The Asian population rose by 26 percent. But the African American population fell 3.6 percent and the “Anglo” population shrank 18 percent. More than 3 million people of Mexican ancestry now call Los Angeles County home. White folks are fleeing California at a rate of 100,000 a year. Black folks are following. La Reconquista is at hand. Well over half of Los Angeles County residents — 54 percent — now speak a language other than English in their homes, up from 45 percent in 1990.

    High among the reasons for the decline in incomes is the death of manufacturing. In Los Angeles County the number of manufacturing jobs — those high-paying jobs that were the yellow brick road of working America into the middle class — fell 32 percent, from 861,000 to 587,000. Ruth Milkman, director of the UCLA Institute for Labor and Employment, says Los Angeles County, whose 9.5 million people rivals the population of many U.N. member states, is “beginning to resemble much more a Third World society where a class of people are stuck at the bottom.” And as the poor flood into California from Mexico and Central America, and middle-class Americans move out and the median income falls, California’s state budget sinks into a sea of red ink.

    Gov. Gray Davis faces a deficit of $23.6 billion, one-third of his entire state budget. This means higher taxes and slashed services, as taxpayers flee the Golden State for the Mountain States and millions of tax consumers pour in from Latin America.

    Is Los Angeles today America’s tomorrow? How can it not be, when, yearly, 1.5 million legal and illegal immigrants arrive, 90 percent of them from Third World nations where poverty is pandemic? In our styles and standard of living, we are fast becoming two nations — and, in our allegiances, loves and loyalties, many nations. When more than half the people of Los Angeles County do not speak English in their homes, do not listen to the same radio and TV programs, do not read the same newspapers, magazines or books, do not share the same heroes, history or holidays, can we really say we Americans are still one people? What do we have in common with these folks that makes us one nation? Growing up in America in the 1950s, one felt part of a family. Even the racial conflicts of the 1960s seemed like angry arguments — inside our national family. Without doubt, all those foreign folks living in Los Angeles have come here for the same reasons our ancestors did. But are they Americans? Or are they strangers whose hearts and true homes are somewhere else?

    • Tinfoil A22hat

      Yikes. Do we:
      Somehow create our own White territory, sounds rather unlikely;
      Engage in an extremely large scale deportation and segregational purge, doubtful in the extreme;
      Somehow, cooperatively buy large enough tracts of land for all white communities, while somehow maintaining the legal right to live in that fashion, also improbable;
      Petition for globally recognised status as the global minority that we are, and enjoy the privileges afforded minorities?


    • ATBOTL

      Wow, this is an old article. I will never understand why more conservatives didn’t listen to Pat Buchanan. It was shocking to see the strong rejection of even mild racial awareness and nationalism by the conservative base under Bush.

  • Mr_Blootarsky

    Give that phuccking s h i t hole to the Chinese and call it even.

  • As someone on the outside looking in, it looks like your whole country is being slowly overwhelmed by the Cloward–Piven strategy.
    Whose goal (from wikipedia)…. called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of “a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty”.
    Sounds like something “the people’s hero Obama” was born to implement.

    • NYB

      Coincidentally, in Canada, subsidized food handouts have increased by 31 percent since 2008.
      The Cloward-Piven strategy is becoming a pillar of Western countries, cheered on by the 1 percent who are the ultimate recipients of redistributed wealth.


    It is nearly impossble for California to be bankrupt — it still produces ~ 40% of all USA fruit, vegetables, and nuts. Hollywood still makes nearly all TV & movies, Most import/export passes through California ports. Tourism is gigantic – everything from beaches, LA, SF, skiing, the Sierras, Death Valley, Yosemite, Redwoods, Big Sur, etc. Silicon Valley & dotcom companies. Netflix, Facebook! Manufacturing! Banking & finance! Most Asian flights pass through California airports. 12 major military bases, including the Navy in San Deigo. Universities that attract students from all over the world. Billions of Dollars of Federal monies for research.
    All of this remains the same from 40 yrs ago when California prospered. What changed?
    What changed was that California imported poverty. Five million needy Mexicans and their resulting 5 million low-achieving, needy children have bankrupted the State with poverty. That is what destroyed California, and soon the entire Nation.

    • Luca

      You are half right. Couple with imported peasants was the endless cycle of Unions negotiating with the very people they put in power. Liberal Politicians gave Unions whatever they wanted with the knowledge that the “day of reckoning” was far enough down the road that when it hit the fan they’d be out of office or in another jurisdiction. High salaries, top-end benefits and gold-plated pensions will be breaking one city after the next.

    • MBlanc46

      Just having a lot of money doesn’t keep one from going bankrupt. That’s a matter of assets versus liabilities. And just because there’s great wealth in CA, that doesn’t mean that the municipal government has enough revenue to pay it’s bills.

    • NYB

      Whites share some of the blame. Even if no Mexicans were present, the corruptly generous pensions negotiated for retired city workers in places like San Bernardino are impossible to sustain.

      Uncontrolled borders were just one contributing factor the train wreck that Los Angeles and Cali have become. Unfortunately, race-replacement is infinitely harder to remedy than financial mismanagement.

      • Luca

        Whites share some of the blame? I’m sure you mean Liberals.

        • NYB

          The whites on city councils voting themselves big increases, and the police, fire and paramedics whose unions negotiated enormous compensation increases aren’t motivated by liberal ideology.
          They’ve thrown scruples out the window and decided to grab the Titanic’s silverware before the ship sinks.

          • Luca

            The politicians on the City Council in LA were virtually all Liberals. They controlled the purse strings. The unions’ leadership ideology does not matter. If they’re willing to get in bed with liberals and abandon all reason and morals for money they are just as bad. They are traitors.

          • Luis

            Kinda like the feminists crawling into bed with Swimmer Ted. He was a womanizer, a drunk and of course, responsible for Chappaquiddick. But he was also pro-Equal Rights Amendment, and more importantly for feminists, pro-abortion. So they made their political bed with him, and crawled into it.

            Then too, the Republicans ran nobodies against him.

    • Problem: Hollywood gets out of paying a lot of taxes due to accounting scams:

      A lot of Silicon Valley CSIT firms are “based” in the SV physically but “on paper” they “legally” base so much of their operations outside of California that they’re almost immune to whatever happens in Sacramento vis-à-vis tax rates. For instance, Apple, while physically based in Cupertino, California, is “on paper” mostly based in Reno, Nevada.
      So California’s two big marquee industry sets worms out of paying California’s onerous tax rates (those rates are only for the “little people”). Is it any wonder when Texas Governor Rickroller Perry made a recent junket to California trying to raid the state on behalf of Texas, he came away largely empty-handed? Now you know why: The big corporations in the big industries have their convenient escape hatches from taxation.
      Then you add in the suddenly increased dependent welfare gibsmedat class from the other side of the border or other side of the world. Then add on top of that since labor has gotten a lot cheaper, (thanks to that same mass immigration), people earning less income will not only pay less in overall taxes, but because income tax rates in California are “progressive,” they’ll pay less in percentages, if their incomes are high enough for them to be liable for state income taxes at all.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        California’s 9.3% rate kicks in at $46,349 in annual income for those who file as individuals, which is higher than what millionaires pay in 47 states.

        The 10.3% rate applies to income over $1 million a year.

        As for Apple:

        Apple announced it was building a $304 million campus in Austin with plans to hire 3,600 people to staff it, more than 2 percent smaller


      • Luca

        I doubt Perry came away empty-handed. His State also has to compete with Nevada which is attracting Californian businesses and taxpayers. Aside from the tax issues, businesses trying to make a profit in California are fed up with ridiculous regulations, many relating to minority hiring, Workmen Comp. insurance and environmental hysterics.

    • HKwills

      “Hispanics” are now 40% of California’s population. They retain the highest fecundity rate among the states racial groups – about 2.8 children per couple. They have only half the average income of whites and only 9% of the net household worth. No surprise, they underscore whites in IQ tests by an average of 10 points (black/white differential is 15 points). I would not put to much faith in California’s economy too: only 2% of the state’s domestic product comes from agriculture, 10% from manufacturing. In the “Wealth of Nations” Adam Smith states that those two sectors of an economy are the only true sources of wealth generation. Over-regulation, high taxes and cheap labor in Asia (off-shoring) will continue to drain the state’s wealth creating power.

      • In Adam Smith’s day, it was purely mining, manufacturing and agriculture as the way raw materials received added value to grow one’s country’s GDP. Today, we also have technological and scientific progress. I read an article not too long ago that makes the case that Moore’s Law is almost single handedly responsible for the first world’s GDP growth since Gordon Moore made his observation axiomatic.

        • Dave6034

          Moore’s Law gave us personal computers in the 80s and personal Internet access in the 90s — two revolutions in two decades. In the 00s it gave us Facebook, Reddit, and Groupon. Yipee.

          If the First World can’t do better than that, we will continue to haemorrhage jobs and capital until our wages equalize with Mexico, Brazil, India, and China.

        • HKwills

          Scientific progress must be converted into saleable products to generate a revenue stream and then wealth. Scientific progress could be made into the understanding of the evolutionary history of the horse or the behavior of quarks: it would probably not lead to wealth generation. Technological progress is ultimately manifested in improved goods. An exception would be intellectual property rights and rents. However, these seem difficult to enforce at least globally.

      • MikeofAges

        Think, too, of where the agricultural wealth goes. I lived in Merced County in California for about a decade. The population of Merced County was about 250,000 and the value of the agricultural product equal to about one-third of the state of Iowa. Iowa is a paradise comparison, with high incomes and world-class universities. Merced County was a hellhole of poverty for most of the people who lived there, including a large portion of the whites.

  • Luca

    I worked for the City of LA and lived out here for over 35 years, I watched the decline.
    Most of So. Cal can be summed up in this way: Liberal politicians catering to Unions and illegals. A sure formula for disaster.

    • tickyul

      Short, sweet and to the point…..that about sums it up!

  • sbuffalonative

    Can we now put to rest the myth that immigrants are what drives a thriving, robust economy?

    • Luca

      Liberal journalists like to chant about how hard the illegals work. I have found that any starving unemployed peasants from anywhere will work hard to put food on the table but then their kids won’t. What they also neglect to say is that while Juan is working hard, his wife is collecting benefits, he’s working for cash, not paying taxes, when sick they’re clogging or shutting down the ER and their kids are selling dope and gang-banging. They always forget to mention that, a mere oversight I’m sure.

  • Matt

    LA is majority-white now, the same as Detroit. That’s why LA is going down the same fiscal path of destruction. The weather, original industries, and proximity to markets may be very different between the two cities, but the demographic trend of an increasing non-white population is responsible for the fiscal mess they’re both in these days.

    • LA is majority-white now, the same as Detroit.


      Dont know what planet you are from but Detoilet is 90% BLACK

      • Matt

        Yes, my error – meant to say majority NON-white! It was a typo!

        • Katherine McChesney

          You could’ve edited your comment.

        • MikeofAges

          Don’t say your sorry. Just get in there and edit your text.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Where on earth did you get your information?

    • rick

      Los Angeles proper was majority non-white in the 1980 census…

  • guest

    Los Angeles is one of those big cities where everyone is a leftist, and of course those leftists claim to be in favor of multiculturalism and illegal immigrants. They wanted them, and this is what they’re getting. Even if it does turn their city into another Detroit.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Los Angeles kicked their homeless out. They moved closer to the beach cities. The cities around Santa Monica (north and south) are experiencing problems with thousands of homeless sleeping on their lawns and using them for toilets. Even the Santa Monica courthouse lawn is a squatters paradise. I enjoyed my time there but I’m happy to be away from that leftist nuthouse.

      • jtkayLA

        Santa Monica’s awful. Every time you turn around there’s a new overreaching city ordinance. Glad I don’t live there.

        • Katherine McChesney

          I noticed that too. The liberals love passing laws restricting personal choice. One can break a law without knowing it…that’s how fast they’re passed.

  • Katherine McChesney

    Companies that are related to aircraft manufacture are leaving the state. The music business is suffering.

  • jtkayLA

    The term “micro-balkanization” popped into my head while I was reading the article. I didn’t know if that was even a thing, so I Googled it and found a 1993 piece by Mike Davis in the New Left Review. Not surprisingly, the subject is Los Angeles: “…The neighborhood geography of Los Angeles has redrawn the map of the world to place El Salvador next to Korea, Armenia next to Thailand, Samoa next to Belize, and Louisiana next to Jalisco. Potentials for serendipitous interculturalism coexist with tendencies toward violent micro-balkanization.” I’m pretty sure that the “serendipitous interculturalism” was a multikult gimme to his editorial hosts. No doubt he knew that violent micro-balkanization would be the only outcome.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Last April, the city’s administrative officer issued a report on Los Angeles’ deteriorating finances…

    LA is a one-party jurisdiction controlled by elites. Elections are pointless. The only decent candidate for mayor this past Tuesday, Kevin James, finished 3rd.

    According to the city’s 2010 Comprehensive Annual Financial Report, the top employer in the City of Los Angeles as of 2009 is the City of Los Angeles.

    Los Angeles has a deficit of ≈ $1.4 billion, the result of huge pensions and salary increases given out to city employees. In 2007, city employees received a 25% increase over five years.

    LA has one of the worst mayors in the US, a pro-illegal alien chief of police and a city council similar to that of San Francisco.

    Fewer than 10% of new network dramas in 2012 are based in Los Angeles, down from 50% in 2010 and nearly 80% in 2005…as cost-conscious producers seek tax-friendly production havens in New York, North Carolina, Georgia and other states.

    The exodus has been going on for years, especially in feature film production.


    So goes LA, California and eventually the whole nation.

    As for Detroit: Every major city is following in the footsteps of Detroit. Detroit just got a head start.


  • dj2

    Each time I’ve been to LA/California I’m surprised at how Mexican and Asian it is. The last time I remember it feeling like white America was ’88. Even in the 90s things had changed dramatically.

    The LA area is a true tragedy…a paradise paved over and the beautiful people slowly but surely replaced by Mexican peasants. It looks nothing like the TV shows or movies suggest.

    But remember…your politicians insist on “growth” so we will have continuing immigration, forever, or until this thing falls apart.

  • bigone4u

    Charles Manson may have been a prophet. He forecast a race war, with the blacks ultimately needing whites in order to survive (he viewed blacks as lacking the intelligence and organizational skills to create a functioning society). Manson, according to DA Bugliosi, did his killings to try to get the race war going then. If there is a race-based insurrection in the future it will be whites against blacks, browns, yellows, and reds. Whites will be on their own. To contradict Wesley Snipes in the movie Passenger 57, “Always bet on white.”

    • robinbishop34

      His Helter Skelter prophecy may of been right on the mark.

    • Charles Manson was a nut. His whole theory was that the same blacks who suddenly had the intellect, foresight and organizational skills to rise up and overthrow and kill all white people (save the Manson cult hidden in the desert) would, after they’re done killing off (almost all) whites, would suddenly lose their intellect, at which time they would suddenly need druggie Manson and his hovel of vagabond druggies to help them run the world.

      Then Manson and some of his gang go out and commit the Helter Skelter murders to show all these great intellect blacks how to commit revolution. That contradicted his own theory. Then again, he was a drug-addled nut…reasoning with a drug addled nut is even more thankless than teaching a pig how to whistle.

      • robinbishop34

        His idea that whites would lose the race war was nuts, but he may of been correct in the abstract. I say this not as a sympathizer, but from an objective vantage point.

      • MikeofAges

        Yes but. Charles Manson also said, with the wealthy matrons of Southern California in mind, “I am what you are. I am what you made me.” If you think it out, hard to argue with, hard to argue with the monster from the id. And now, all of California is the monster from the id. Well, it always has been. When it was Raymond Chandler’s L.A., it was safe fun if viewed from a proper distance, kind of like a safari in lion country or watching the grizzlies scarf up salmon at some river in the Great White North. Not now, not anymore. Anarcho-tyranny is the future of the human race, the worthy successor to worldwide feudalism and the slave empires of the ancient world.

        • Katherine McChesney

          What made Charles Manson was his upbringing.

    • SirMe

      whites vs blacks, browns, yellows, reds and whites…… that’s more like it..

  • Having a mexican as your city’s CAO is a sign you are on the wrong path

  • Grim Jim

    Anyone who wants a full picture of the destruction of Los Angeles needs to scroll through these old pictures. Far from becoming the next Detroit, it went to hell decades ago. You all really need to look at these pictures to see for yourself for absolute confirmation. Anyone familiar with the exact street locations of where most of these pictures were taken and what has happened to those areas since will be doubly sick to their stomachs.

    I want the idiots out there to understand something about Los Angeles and California, in 1900, less than 1% of the population came from Mexican descent. Why? Because the mestizos had no water and no idea how to irrigate the land. It took William Mulholland and others like him to make California habitable and productive.

    Here is the link to the pictures:

    The History Of Los Angeles


    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Thanks for posting those. Los Angeles is my home.

      Many of those old iconic buildings have been torn down, which is easy in LA– the city merely claims they’re not “earthquake proof” and that’s the end of it. Either that or the mexicans take over the area, smash out the art deco/30s era street lights, graffiti any/all surfaces, rip up the sidewalks and that’s the end of it. It’s hard to watch and the politicians don’t care. Los Angeles will be reduced to rubble when the last White leaves (yes, it may be ME).

      The good news is Disney has re-created 30s/40s Los Angeles and Hollywood in its “Disney’s Hollywood” theme park in Florida. I was amazed when I saw it — an employee told me the buildings and streets are exact replicas of old buildings that once lined the streets of Los Angeles, down to the exceptional stonework from Tujunga Wash stones. The details were incredible. I wasn’t sure whether to be angry or happy, it was like being in a museum looking at a lost civilization.

      I have to go to Florida now to visit California — what it used to be, once was and will never be again be. D*** the traitorous politicians who did this to my city and state!! In 50 years they’ve ruined the most beautiful, unique, incredible state in the entire country.


      • Grim Jim

        When I first stumbled on on to that thread I went through every page and was awestruck, I spent hours looking at them and using Google Earth to go to those same locations now, those that I was not already familiar with.

        It was seriously like looking through a great telescope to some star and seeing an advanced civilization where art, beauty, and homogeneity all coalesced together to make a virtual paradise, without the need for the modern gadgetry we are all slaves to which hasn’t done us much good when you put it all in perspective.

        I have another one for you, and much better IMO: This once concentrates on the Ocean Park Area and the many piers along that stretch of sand from 1900 onward.



        Oh my God… I’m back. I’m home. All the time it was… we finally really did it. [screaming] YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! OH, DAMN YOU! GODDAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

        The saddest part of all is the destruction done what is evident through this book, for me because I grew up along the beach:



        Summer is Forever was a book project that took the author / photographer
        five long years (1971-1975) to capture all aspects of beach town life
        along the Southern California seashore. This photo-essay accompanied by a
        30,000 word text, depicts what it is like to live in one of Southern
        California’s beach towns from Santa Barbara south to San Diego. Each
        year round urban beach town has a personality of its own and is depicted
        in words and color photographs. It is a stunning book but the material
        is dated. However, the book remains popular since it depicts a slice of
        California life in the 1970’s that in a sense no longer exists.

        “Oh my God… I’m back. I’m home. All the time it was… we finally really did it. YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! OH, DAMN YOU! GODDAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!”

  • RHG

    Los Angeles, your 3rd world destiny awaits you….enjoy

  • Luca

    The main difference between Detroit and LA is that Detroit became blacker and abandoned while LA becomes browner and a barrio. Detroit has all the charm of an African ghost town, while LA is becoming the new Tijuana. Both enabled by liberal politics that denied reality and encouraged unionized diversity.

    • MikeofAges

      Hispanics and Asians have the capability of maintaining a commercial economy. That means independent businesses and services, and people earning incomes. The California Southland may become part of Latin America culturally and socially, or at least a lot like Latin America, but it will never be like Detroit.

      Still, California has reached a terminal demographic condition. That means that there is no possible force which can alter the direction it is going in, which is toward a white-East Asian-South Asian- gentrified Hispanic overclass and an English-speaking but highly Hispanic influenced multiracial underclass. Do I have to keep on saying it? Anarcho-tyranny is the successor to feudalism and the ancient slave empires.

  • Stentorian_Commentator

    Southern California’s economy is not robust? But how? I thought all those hard-working, entrepreneurial immigrants would make it an economic powerhouse. Explain it to me, Jeb Bush!

  • josh

    LA,like Detroit,a once magnificent city. I have never been there,dammit,tho I have often imagined living there in the good old days. I read a great story in the New Yorker–a horriblke crap magazine,but,whatever,–about the doctor Oliver Sacks,the guy from the Robin Williams /DeNiro movie–and his early life of living in So Cal and doing drugs. Throw in the Eagles–and you got a great time!!!

  • ConcernedYoungAmerican

    I grew up an hour and a half outside of LA. Its topography, weather, and
    beaches make it one of the nicest locales to build a city in
    America–and it used to boom. But a city is a function of the people who
    live there, and unfortunately, LA was overrun by Mexicans and destroyed
    by blacks. The remaining white people all live in West Los Angeles in
    gated communities or in the hills overlooking the city’s basin and, of course, pay all of the municipal taxes. But the white middle class has all left this Third World city that offers a glimpse of what America will soon become.

  • Liberalism really is a disease, with a long list of victims

  • The city’s manufacturing economy, which remained vibrant far longer than Detroit’s, has been on a steady decline of late, losing 55 percent of its jobs over 20 years. Nothing has stepped up to take its place. The city’s information industries, a large part of any tech economy, have been stagnant. So has LA’s imposing professional and business service sector, stuck in another 20-year boom and bust cycle that has resulted in no net new jobs. {snip} The factory jobs in La are not done by whites but by a lot of illegal immirgants.

  • Orange County, south of Los Angeles, once the bastion of Goldwater Republicanism, the poverty rate soared 44 percent. East of Los Angeles, in the Inland Empire counties of San Bernardino and Riverside, on the road to Palm Desert and Nevada, Orange County poverty still lower than most major cities in TExas like Austin, HOuston and Dallas. Its only 10 percent and about 13 percent if you do cost of living. OC still the lowest poverty among the top 10 largest counties. Houston is 18 to 19 or 20 percent. Dalas and La are around 21 percent.

  • OC only 2 percent black and Houston about 18 percent black.

  • Percentage of residents living in poverty in 2009: 20.6%
    (7.2% for White Non-Hispanic residents, 25.7% for Black residents, 28.0% for Hispanic or Latino residents, 26.7% for other race residents, 12.6% for two or more races reside

    Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Houston-Texas.html#ixzz2N6mqTF00Percentage of residents living in poverty in 2009: 14.6%
    (5.0% for White Non-Hispanic residents, 20.5% for Hispanic or Latino residents, 23.9% for other race residents)

    Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Anaheim
    See Anaheim one of the worst cities for Orange County because of a lot of illegals still has a lower poverty rate than Houston.

  • Luis

    Pogo’s observation, that “We have met the enemy and he is us”, rings true in this case. For decades, California was regarded as the trendsetter state – because it was the most populous state and most ethnically diverse state. Some idea, fashion or trend would originate in California, and then spread eastward, until it would be adopted in all 50 states. Nobody ever questioned whether just because something worked in California, it would work in Iowa, South Carolina or Maine. It started in California, so Mississippi should follow suit.

    We did this to ourselves. We let it happen.