California Dream Act: 20,000 Illegal Immigrant Students Apply for State Financial Aid for the First Time

Katy Murphy, Contra Costa Times, March 8, 2013

More than 20,000 college-bound students are seeking state financial aid for the first time under California’s new Dream Act laws that allow them to get the help despite their immigration status.

While far from a complete picture, that number is the best indicator yet of how many students hope to benefit from a pair of laws that could radically change the college experience for a generation of students whose parents brought them to the U.S. illegally when they were young—the same group that has taken center stage in the national immigration reform debate.

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As college-bound high school graduates await word of their state financial aid—Cal Grants—other kinds of help have begun to flow for students already enrolled in public colleges and universities.

In January, UC Berkeley freshman Jesus Lopez was one of many college students who under the same Dream Act began to receive campus grants or fee waivers based on need—help previously limited to legal residents.

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California was one of the first states to offer in-state tuition to illegal immigrants who attended one of its high schools. Now, roughly a dozen do so. Only two other states—Texas and New Mexico—give financial aid to this group of students, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. {snip}

Opponents, led by Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Hesperia, tried to repeal the California Dream Act last year, arguing the state can’t afford to support its legal residents, let alone those who entered illegally. The campaign didn’t gather enough signatures to qualify for the ballot.

It will cost the state about $65 million a year by 2016-17 to extend the benefits to illegal immigrants and those granted temporary legality under the federal Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst’s Office predicts. The estimate does not include campus aid administered by CSU and UC, grants funded mainly through tuition.

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  • So what? Let California do what it wants. When those californians decide to move to your state, and they will, treat them with a cold shoulder.
    In fact, they’re already here, telling me that we’re not diverse enough in our state.

    • So CAL Snowman

      You do realize that before the mexican invasion that CA was a Red state right? We never voted for the mexican invasion and passed Prop 187 to stop it. There are a LOT of dumb as dirt liberals here, but don’t forget we passed Prop 8. If the federal government was actually an extension of “We the People” CA would still be White and conservative. I’m never leaving So CAL for the North West Front or the Midwest. This is MY home and I intend to live here or die trying. Plus Mexicans don’t surf.

      • Stentorian_Commentator

        Still, it’s something else that scarce university spots and scarce financial aid are being given to people who aren’t supposed to be here, to the exclusion of, you guessed it, non-Jewish white folks. I figure the Jews think they’ll still get theirs as long as they can horn in on the dwindling white population of universities, but finding non-Jewish whites at top institutions is becoming more and more rare. What a world.

      • fakeemail

        Yes, CA went for Poppy Bush back in 89 for goodness sake. It was a land of surfer dudes, valley girls, and rich snobby blondes! As I kid, I distinctly remember this weird general outrage at Governor Pete Wilson while simultaneously Californians voted in favor of stopping welfare to illegals. And then the will of the people was swiftly overturned by a lone federal judge, a goddamn Carter apointee. And then suddenly Wilson’s political career was finished, the state kept getting browner, and nary a peep was heard again on the matter. Weird, creepy stuff.

        • Bobby

          Not creepy at all. The agenda of the Mexican power groups, La Raza, Lulac, Mecha, Maldef,( shoot there are too many to mention them all), is moving along nicely and has conquered California,with probably lunatic liberal Washington, or Oregon next, or maybe Colorado. Good luck American citizens. You sure will need it, since you won’t lift a finger to stop any of this.

      • bigone4u

        Last year, Business Insider website published a bunch of pics of southern California in the 70s. The pics were shocking when you consider the place now. Nice, clean, safe, and mostly white. Lovely place it WAS. Made me want to cry at what’s been lost.

        • Greg Thomas

          As a life long Californian, I can remember those days, albeit I was very young. We did not have an illegal mexican problem then.

          • Katherine McChesney

            I remember back in 70’s California it was legal to ask a Mexican to show us his or her green card.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        Prop 187 was overturned because the state was sued by La Raza and other Hispanic lobbies. I admire you for your determination, you must be single. I also had not liked many of the State laws in California for a long time.

        • DudeWheresMyCountry?

          So any White in California that has a family is misguided to stay? It is your kind of defeatism that has allowed this invasion to occur. I won’t leave either and when the day of reckoning comes I’m okay with going out in the fight, but I promise when I fall it will be after I have taken out many many dozens of brown pigmies with flat noses and small brains.

          • Greg Thomas

            That makes two of us Dude, I’m not going anywhere and why should I have to? I have come to terms with what I’m willing to sacrifice in order to fight this invasion when the time comes. I’ll be damned if I’m going to let a bunch of illegal invading la raza mexicans drive me away.

      • Lt. Col. Kilgore

        Charlie doesn’t surf either.

      • Bobby

        Actually, my buddy, Garcia, surfed with all of us white dudes, but that was in the late sixties, and early seventies. I don’t know what Mexicans today do. PEACE.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      Ha, we’re the best thing that every happened in the states to the North. We are waking them up. Most of the population think Diversity is nice and just, we bring our horror stories and lessons. Still too few listen. You’re merely indlulgin in the old, bitter jealousies and hatred of California because of a (justified) inferiority complex.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      Right, because it is my fault California is a satellite client state of Mexico. I’ve been fighting this since I was fifteen, even then I could see the writing on the wall that many adults still refuse to see. Just because I am White from CA doesn’t make me your enemy. Quite the contrary.

    • Bobby

      Those ex-Californians, like to invade Idaho, Colorado, Oregon, Washington, and then try to turn those states into failed California. DON’T EVER, NEVER, ALLOW AN EX CALIFORNIAN to run for office in your state, NOT EVEN FOR CITY COUNCIL. They are worthless, city, state, and nation destroying lefitists.

  • guest

    Be careful what you wish for, California liberals. You wanted the diversity that you say these illegal immigrants bring, now you have them and you’re about to pay for it.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      We never wished for California to become a third world in one generation, or ever. You do realize this is not a place where California liberals post right? Might want to check the Hufpost for that kind of thing.

  • Sixteen million? Oh that’s no problem, I’m SURE that the Hollywood millionaire crowd will be GLAD to put up the money. Maybe they’ll even adopt them.

  • Brady

    The California State Legislature can pass what ever they want. It won’t mean a thing without the money to fund it. They can’t borrow money indefinitely. It’s like getting blood out of a stone.

    • Extropico

      There is a Federal Reserve Bank in San Francisco; they have the money to fund it should the federal government approve. They can print all the money that Congress will permit to finance that debt. As long as we are exporting inflation with the trade deficit so that interest rates don’t rise, that Sword of Damocles of debt will remain in its scabbard.

  • Greg Thomas

    This is not “immigration,” it is an invasion, being aided and abetted by our treasonous government.

    • bigone4u

      I really like your use of the word “treasonous.” It may not rise to the level of legal treason, but morally, what is happening is treason, according to natural law.

      • ILOVEMYRACE

        It IS treason. Treason is placing the welfare of foreigners over that of your own countrymen. These Leftists believe that the 7 Billion people who live outside the USDA have more rights and deserve more stuff, than do the actual citizens of the USA.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          Actual acts of subversion have been committed by the Mexican government as well; they set up schools in some Southwestern states that teach anti-U.S. and anti-white American ideology as well as distributing pamphlets on how to immigrate illegally into the U.S. I also noticed that Mexico was sending its embassy to Sacramento, dealing directly with the governor in formulating its policies toward immigration, which sidestepped the Federal control of it. That is a kind of subversive activity by a foreign government.

          • Nancy Thomas

            That’s true. The brown children here in Los Angeles are openly anti-white and think it’s normal to hate white people.

          • mobilebay

            I never thought I’d live to see the day when the greatest nation on earth, that once withstood mighty armies from all over the world, would surrender to the corrupt, third world just across our southern border. We have our own government and traitorous individuals to thank for our downfall.

        • Nancy Thomas

          I agree. The mexicans are colonizing our country and have taken over my city. Los Angeles is occupied territory.

        • bigone4u

          I agree with you, but let me clarify my point. Under the law of treason as it is written, who would be arrested, tried, and executed? McCain? Obama? Napolitano? No one has been arrested and charged with treason. Try convincing the FBI or military to arrest any of the three I’ve named. It won’t happen. However, there is a higher law than the written law and that is called natural law. Of course the three scumbags I’ve mentioned are traitors, as are many more. Morally, you and I have right on our side. The Founding Fathers broke the written law in order to secure their rights under natural law. Until people like us are in postions of power, or until there is another revolution, the treason will continue. The Russian people got rid of their brutal, murdering communist dictators in a heartbeat with minimal violence by suddenly finding their inner strength. So can we. The Russian people are an inspiration for me, refusing as they did to tolerate the yoke of communist slavery any longer. Many Russians are rooting for America to overthrow our current president, someone they see as a dictator. If the US economy collapses, it could happen. Certainly, open borders makes that collapse more likely. Sending Obama back to Kenya as punishment really appeals to my wry sense of justice, although I’m sure some would prefer him to be executed after the dust settles.

      • Greg Thomas

        Perhaps Bigone, but I’m reasonably certain an able lawyer could make the case that 30 million illegal invading mexicans (encouraged by their own government, with a perverted belief they have some sort of claim to the western portion of this
        country) is in fact an invasion. Efforts to conceal this invasion with
        euphemisms such as “they only come here for a “better life” does not make it any
        less of an invasion. It only makes their actions that much more sinister.

        Our elected officials have sworn to protect us from enemies, both foreign and
        domestic. Consequently, any elected official aiding and abetting this invasion
        is in fact engaged in treason. Treason or not, any elected official who wants
        to aid and abet the illegal invader does not deserve to be representing
        American citizens. At the least, they should be removed from office.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          That invasion did come with violence. I have two neices that were raped and my professional office was broken into and vandalized by a gang that tagged it and other buildings at the time. I could tell dozens of stories about rape, murder, beatings, robberies, burglaries and all sorts of violence in between including harassment, sexual and otherwise. This is how I and millions of whites were driven out of California. The only whites left are the ones who still have too much to abandon and/or like feeling as if they are in Mexico.

          • Greg Thomas

            You are 100% correct WP. However, this government is not interested in the lives of American citizens, maimed and destroyed at the hand of illegal invading mexicans. We are simply cannon fodder in their quest to eradicate White Americans, via third-world hordes from south of the border. This is being perpetrated in the name of “diversity and compassion.” If you dare object, you are vilified as a “racist, xenophobe, nativist, and hateful.”

            I’m truly sorry for the personal price you have had to pay in order for this government to achieve diversity.

          • bigone4u

            Held accountable in a court of law? How about a military tribunal followed by a firing squad?

          • Greg Thomas

            Works for me my friend.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Or simply refuse to leave because a bunch of brown pigmies with 70 IQs and the education of three year olds bum rushed the border. Whiteplight, why don’t you concern yourself with whatever place you are instead of talking about why there are White people in California, which you clearly don’t know much about.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          A tapeworm enters your body in search of “a better life”, but this does not make it any less a parasite.

      • mikebowen55

        It is in fact treason. These politicians and their underlings are in fact domestic enemies by their very actions. If allowing foreign invasion isn’t treason then I don’t know what is.

  • crystalevans

    As I understand it, illegal aliens are eligible for these grants after all eligible US citizens and green card holders get theirs.

    • The__Bobster

      You understand wrong.

      http://www.vdare.com/posts/california-20000-illegal-alien-college-students-sign-up-for-free-to-them-money

      As Assemblyman Tim Donnelly remarked at that time, “Tuition rates have been going up, the universities have budget cuts of $1.2 billion and there are lotteries for classes – but if someone is here illegally, we roll out the red carpet.”

      The photo shows cheerful UC Berkeley freshman Jose Lopez, an illegal alien. Look closely and you can see he wore his Aztlan t-shirt, apparently as an extra screw-you statement to stupid-generous America.

      Of course, 20,000 illegal aliens students means that number of citizen kids have been displaced, not to mention the unwelcome costs for taxpayers. Early in the debate over the bill, supporters claimed it wouldn’t cost much, maybe $13 million, but now we see that in three years the price tag will be $65 million.

      http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-Graphics/UCBerkeleyAlientudentJoseLopez.png

      • Felix_M

        And, of course, the only way José got into UC Berkeley was through affirmative action.

        Our “leaders” who welcome illegal aliens are the equivalent of Roman leaders who stood by and did nothing to staunch the invading barbarian hordes, often trying to buy them off with bribes, instead.

      • Greg Thomas

        Didn’t notice the reconquista aztlan t-shirt until pointed out. And they still claim this is not an invasion. I would love to wipe that smurk off of his mestizo face.

        • Nancy Thomas

          They should send that little creepy future rapist back to where he came from.

        • Felix_M

          José with that smile looks just like one of those knife-wielding barbarians in “Apocalypto.” Mel Gibson got it right.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Clearly molecular biologist material! He won’t be smiling like that after he receives his grades at the end of his first semester, and discovers after he flunks out at the end of his second semester that student loan debt can not even be removed by a bankruptcy filing.

            I hope he’s brushing up on his English, so he can ask folks whether they would like to super-size their orders.

      • Katherine McChesney

        I’d love to slap that smile off his face.

        • Greg Thomas

          You’re not the only one….

    • Greg Thomas

      Even If we were to believe this, and in fact it was being carried out as such; are we supposed to rejoice in that fact? Those are still my tax dollars going to illegal invading mexicans. Illegal invader Juan will jump to the head of the line, as he does all lines.

    • Greg Thomas

      Is this supposed to make it better? Since when has an illegal invader been required to stand in the back of the line?

  • Paleoconn

    I wonder if this is what The Mamas and Papas meant when they sang California DREAMin’

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      Hmmm, new title; “California Nightmare,” and some new lyrics, “I’d be raped and shorn, if I was in L.A., …

      • Paleoconn

        For sure, and I like your lyrics. But i was going for a parallel with the DREAM Act specifically.

  • Paleoconn

    To riff off Ralph Wiggum and his ambition to go to Bovine University, many of our kids will go to Die-versity

  • freespeechzone

    California is just a glimpse of how the entire nation will evolve under a liberal controlled government–illegals will have more rights, power and entitlements than legal citizens because we Whites have, in the mind of liberals, oppressed them.

    The future is moving in that direction and I don’t see a chance for liberals to be removed from power in the near term.

    THIS is what 52% of America voted for…….

  • Luca

    I’ve sat in classes with these hispanic kids. They all show up on the first day, starry-eyed about being the first in the family to go to college. Then when they have to do some real academic work, well, my-oh-my how the class thins out. They drop the class and head for Spanish 101 where they might eek out a C+. Then they drop out all together at about a 60% rate. So what did we gain? Nothing. What did we lose? Money… and a spot that could have been taken by a citizen kid how really wants to learn.

    • Nancy Thomas

      Yes, and they cannot pass algebra no matter how may times they take it. That’s why they have a dropout rate over 50%.

  • enjoy
  • bigone4u

    I don’t know the details, but Texas welcomes illegals into college too. Also, Univ of Texas El Paso enrolls a number of Mexicans from Mexico who cross the border every day to go to college. As I taught in a Texas college with heavy Hispanic enrollment, I saw the social cost and the social waste involved. Poor skills, no real interest in learning (just came to pick up my student loan check; hey, it’s free money), and poor attendance with lots of excuses. White Texans are in panic mode that the state is about to turn majority Mexican, so white Texans are giving away the ranch to the Mexicans in hopes of staving off some sort of vague racial cleansing of whites in 20 years or so. It’s not going to work. Texas will eventually be California II.

    • Whites surrendering their country will only encourage and accelerate a “vague racial cleansing”, not postpone it.

  • rick

    Only 20,000? I would have thought it would be at least five times that number.
    And of course Californians never voted to turn their majestic state into a northern appendage of Mexico; As someone else pointed out a lone federal judge issued a injunction against Proposition 187 preventing it from taking effect. Then she (purposely?) kept in bogged down for several years in her court instead of letting it makes its way through the system. At least with the recent AZ immigration law, it made its way up to the Supreme Court in only a few years, where it much of it was allowed to go forward.

    • Greg Thomas

      I’m sure the number is much higher Rick. As with all the numbers associated with this invasion, we never get the truth.

  • HeSaid1

    UM, giving free aid to Illegal Alien Students DOES affect aid given to CA residential students. This is all too often denied when it is a fact that while the NUMBER of Cal Grants given to CA Residential Students does not change, the AMOUNT of the award has and will be diminished.

    Berekely’s own student newspaper admitted this as such:

    http://www.dailycal.org/2011/11/30/dream-act-

    $12,000 X 20,000 Illegal Alien Students is $240 Million!

    It’s also interesting to note that Cesar Chavez (The Center where the pics were taken) was adamantly opposed to Illegal Aliens because they hindered his work for justice for Farm Workers.

    • HeSaid1

      It is very interesting that this and another venue (San Leandro Topix) are the only ones out of the myriad of PR outlets where you are allowed to comment and tell the truth. I guess the powers that be ARE afraid of the TRUTH and the thought Police are alive and kicking. Note: The original story came from the Oakland Tribune.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    The ironic part is that Mexicans generally don’t care about education at all, what they see is a chance to get money that they are guessing they can get out of paying back.

    • JDInSanDiego

      They also think they’re going to land one of those high paying college graduate salaries with a chicano studies degree.

      Can I refuse to pay taxes because I’m being forced to participate in the criminal activity of subsidizing in-state tuition and financial aid to entire families who’ve broken the law?

      • Greg Thomas

        Most of them end up going to work for the State of California in some capacity, usually with the job of handing over our tax dollars to their illegal invading raza.

  • Nancy Thomas

    Total insanity.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    Yawn. This will simply run California out of money even faster. After all, no sane person really believes that illegal aliens will repay their student loan debt, and if they return home to Mexico, there will never be any way for California to forcibly collect.

    I once believed that nobody was really this stupid, but sadly, I am older now, and wiser.

  • Sherman_McCoy

    Take it down. Goodnight, California. You asked for it. You got it.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      We didn’t ask for it. The government does what it wants, against our interests… get it?

      • Sherman_McCoy

        Sorry, Dude. You are right, of course. I left CA a long time ago, and the US 5 years ago. I sometimes forget about the innocent I’ve left behind.

  • Coveyrider

    No such thing as an illegal IMMIGRANT, only ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jennifer

    The government stops tuition assistance to our soldiers due to sequestrian due to Congress not doing their job. And illegal immigrants get financial aid? Brilliant.

  • mobilebay

    The Hispanic Hysteria is racing across this country like wildfire. They are the new “chosen people.”

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    Here is a picture of the Dream Act notice that is posted at the college I attend in Oakland California. They are supposedly only getting money from private scholarships, but these private scholarships are run by a non-profit tax deductible organization. If they get a tax cut, then the difference has to be made up somewhere else. The somewhere else is higher taxes for white people.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Many of these non-profits (like the ones flooding Lewiston, Maine with Somali Muslims) receive government grants. This means that these agencies are really just laundering our tax money so that it can be illegally used for political purposes while still keeping up appearances.

  • RHG

    They don’t learn anything in high school and yet now they want tax money so they can now sit in college classes and not learn anything, yeah makes sense to me.

  • this is wonderful, now our pre school kids and little kids can go without milk. Don’t you love it?