IQ Tests Are ‘Meaningless and Too Simplistic’ Claim Researchers

Nicholas McDermott, Daily Mail (London), December 19, 2012

It will come as a relief to those who failed to shine when taking an IQ test.

After conducting the largest ever study of intelligence, researchers have found that far from indicating how clever you are, IQ testing is actually rather ‘meaningless’.

In a bid to investigate the value of IQ, scientists asked more than 100,000 participants to complete 12 tests that required planning, reasoning, memory and attention.

They also filled in a survey on their background.

They discovered that far from being down to one single factor, what is commonly regarded as intelligence is influenced by three different elements – short-term memory, reasoning, and verbal ability.

But being good at one of these factors does not mean you are going to be equally gifted at the other two.

Scientists from Canada’s Western University in Ontario, also scanned some of the participants’ brains while they undertook the tests.

They found that different parts of the brain were activated when they were tested on each of the three factors.

Traditional IQ tests are ‘too simplistic’, according to the research, which found that what makes someone intelligent is too complex to boil down to a single exam.

IQ, which stands for Intelligence Quotient, is an attempt to measure how smart an individual is.

The average IQ is 100. Mensa, the high IQ society, only accepts individuals who score more than 148, putting them in the top two per cent of the population.

They use the Cattell III B test, which consists of six batches of multiple choice questions aimed at testing mental agility, with each section lasting between eight and 18 minutes.

The new study, published in the journal Neuron, suggests that intelligence is too complex to be represented by a single number.

Study leader Dr Adrian Owen, a British neuroscientists based at Western University in Canada, said an ‘astonishing’ number of people had contributed to the research.

‘We expected a few hundred responses, but thousands and thousands of people took part, including people of all ages, cultures and creeds and from every corner of the world,’ he said.

‘When you take 100,000 people and tested their brain function, we couldn’t find any evidence for a single uniform concept of intelligence.

‘The best we could manage is get it down to three elements that contribute to intelligence. But they are completely different factors, unrelated to one another, and you could be brilliant at one and awful at another.

For example, the absent-minded professor.

‘IQ tests are pretty meaningless – if you are not good at them, all it proves is that you are not good at IQ tests.

‘It does not say anything about your general intelligence.’ The majority of IQ tests were developed in the 50s and 60s when the way we thought and interacted with the world was different, said Dr Owen.

‘Study co-author Roger Highfield, from the Science Museum, said: ‘The most surprising thing is that we still haven’t got over the hang up about IQ tests.

‘This really is a wake-up call. We have now shown that on the evidence, these tests are meaningless.

‘We need to stop trying to simplify the brain, which is very complicated organ, down to a number.

‘We need to think of intelligence like the Olympics. Is the gold medal winner in the marathon fitter than the gold medallist in the 100m sprint?’


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  • MekongDelta69

    “IQ Tests Are Meaningless” – proclaims the Loser Left.

    “Anything Which Gives Us Results We Don’t Like Is ‘Meaningless,’ ‘Racist,’ ‘Sexist,’ ‘Homophobic,’ ‘Islamophobic,’ ‘Classist,’ ‘Colonialist,’ ‘Imperialistic,’ ‘Jingoist,’ ‘Xenophobic’ – And Any Other ‘-ist’ and ‘-ic’ Word We Will Insert Whenever We Feel It Will Help Our Cause And Destroy Yours.”

    “In other words – Don’t bother us with logic, reason, rationale, common sense and those oh-so-annoying little annoyances called FACTS.”

  • pcmustgo

    “Mensa, the high IQ society, only accepts individuals who score more than 148, putting them in the top two per cent of the population.”

    I thought they let in people over 137

    Wonder what the IQ of these researchers are…

    • MekongDelta69

      Added together? Maybe the high double digits.

      Separately? You fill in the numbers!!

    • Eagle_Eyed

      From my understanding of the Gaussian distribution, 145 would be 3 standard deviations above mean–and anyone with an IQ of 145 or higher would be in the top 0.3%.

      148 is way above the top 2%, so either Mensa accepts the top 2% or a 148 score, not both.

      • Tom_in_Miami

        My understanding is that if the mean is 100 and the standard deviation is 15 that would mean that anyone with an IQ above 130 is somewhere in the top 1.5%.

        • 2.28% of the volume of a normal distribution curve lies above 2 SD.

          135 IQ gets you into the top 2%.

          • Tom_in_Miami

            I meant to say that two sd above the mean gets you into the top 2.5% since 95% are within 2 standard deviations of the mean. No?

      • VonMontana

        In case you are not aware, an IQ score of 148 on the Cattell test, is equal to an IQ score of 132 on the Stanford-Binet Scale. This is something you can confirm by checking out the Mensa website, which has details on the scores that are required for Mensa membership. A score of 132 on the Stanford-Binet scale, and 148 on the Cattell test, puts you in the top 2 percent of the white population, which is the minimum score required for entry into Mensa.

      • What are the chances of Mensa establishing set-asides to make its membership better reflect the colorful American mosaic? A minimum IQ of 148 for whites and Asians, 100 for hispanics and 90 for the others.

    • The__Bobster

      That number is wrong. The lower cutoff is 130, which is the top 2%. The standard deviation of the test is 15.

    • Triarius

      I scored a 142 as a teenager and did not get in.

      • MikeofAges

        You can submit a variety of standardized tests for admission to Mensa. The old SAT, GRE, ACT, Military GT, many others. The IQ score required for Mensa membership is 132 on the Stanford-Binet scale. Probably, anybody who consistently scores 125 on the I.Q. test (who takes one that often?) eventually would qualify for Mensa based on one or the other of the accepted tests. I scored in the mid-130s on three IQ tests from my mid-teens to my early 20s. My highest GRE score allegedly norms to an IQ of 157. Where’s my limo, please?

        My impression of Mensa is that it is a stuffy, uptight and terminally boring organization. They should just lower the gate to IQ 125 or the equivalent of IQ 130 on any other accepted test. IQ 125 is where smart begin anyway. IQ 132 is no great shakes, and a lower gate might even help get a few chicks in. Okay, nerdy chicks with glasses and stringy hair who bite their nails. But still chicks.

        • The Verdict of History

          Haha! Never thought I’d see something like this here… VOTE UP!

  • 48224

    Yes, meaningless.

    It is simply a coincidence that the people that never came up with a written language, the wheel or indoor plumbing, score the lowest. AND another strange coincidence that the people scoring the highest split the atom, put a man on the moon and cured polio. Just a coincidence and don’t you crackers dare think anything else.
    Just a coincidence that Detroit is 90% black and looks the way it does. Just a coincidence that Haiti is just like Detroit.
    Chant for tonight: We are all the same, we are all the same, we are all the same.

    • MekongDelta69

      The fact of the matter that K-12 education is an IQ test
      Hell – LIFE is an IQ test.

      And we all know who passed and who failed….

      • 48224

        Yep. Strange how the low IQ people finish at bottom, unless they are good at sports, and high IQ people finish at the top.

        • StillModerated

          The sport crew usually have lousy cash management skills and up right back where they came from — the low country.

          Picture the future headline: LeBron moves back to Akron.

      • i am

        The fact that whites work to support blacks and mexicans makes me think twice about which group is smarter than the other.

        • Scott

          Yeah that’s what I was thinking. We whites give half our income to keep blacks and Mexicans alive and with modern medical care. Who’s the fool in this scenario? I think this is why I’m seeing white women going with black guys. Women go for the guys who are the winners, and white men are submissive to black men and pay them for everything, so who’s the winner?

          Time to stop being submissive, stop paying for our own robbery.

          • GM (Australia)

            Perhaps a large number of the white race have acquired an “Absent minded professor” syndrome, intelligent but without commonsense.. Examples; We create a brilliant hi-tech economy but ignore the spongers. We develop miraculous cures for 3rd world killer diseases but don’t ever think about how they could ever feed themselves.

          • george00

            This reminds me of what I read in Why Race Matters. Here it is: “Thirty-three percent of all black children and there mothers are now supported almost entirely by the resources of genetically unrelated whites in the form of public assistance, rather that by their biological parents. Black success at inducing whites to divert resources from their own children to the children of unrelated blacks is successful exploitation of the environment rarely matched in nature.”

          • StillModerated

            It would also help if we’d have larger families even if it meant risking a mongoloid kid. I guess abortion has become nature’s way as well as hot political hot button. Our future is looking at Amish and Mormons.

          • Joseph

            The problem here is that this wealth transfer is accomplished though the intermediary of a bunch of influential, narcissist, parasitic white guys with infinite resources and guns stealing from the productive white class to bestow this ill-gotten largesse on the bottom feeders to control them. too. This also weakens the middle-class moralist whites who might threaten their hegemony over the economy and society. The Trojan Horses among the whites enable this. On their own, these other “rainbow” groups would starve or kill themselves off.

            Our most dangerous enemy now are these white enablers. How to be rid of them? Voting ain’t working so well.


      This is why all the non-whites say it is meaningless.

      • StillModerated

        North and South Korea are the nations with the highest IQ at 106. But half of them choose to worship a lunatic dictator with a shitty haircut. Go figure!

    • Oil Can Harry

      If IQ tests can’t measure intelligence then neither can school tests, final exams or SATs/college entrance exams.

      So maybe Harvard and Yale should simply take students at random since intelligence tests are “meaningless and too simplistic”.

      • William Rooks

        Well, in fact, they ARE trying to get rid of such tests in public schools and colleges. For the reason obvious to all of us: they do tend to express innate intelligence and studying habits.

        There is nothing random about how Harvard and Yale accept students. For all Asians, the test scores must be through the roof. For all whites, tests are used only to determine which of the group will be discriminated against in order to place lots of non-asians and non-whites. For everybody else, test scores and grades don’t matter much: skin color, gender, sexual proclivity, and liberal worldview are the most important factors and they will find a way around test scores by giving points added for the really “important” factors just mentioned.

  • wattylersrevolt

    So you want to sidetrack a public “debate” about race-replacement with a mind-numbing-the-eyes-glaze over discussion about psychometrics? Why Jared? Think of all the other things you could be talking about. And just exactly how is an intense debate of IQ test scores crucial for reversing post-1965 immigration policy? Here is the obvious answer:0. You see there are people out there who can make point by point rebuttals of what ever point you make on this issue..this of course is of no deterrence to you. Instead it gets the adrenalin going…off into sidetracking the race-replacement “debate” oblivion…and its one minute before midnight…demographically…for millions of Native Born White Americans.
    How did Native Born White American ever manage all those years that there were hardly any asians in our America Jared? Apparently very well thankyou…we put 12 Alpha Native Born White American Males on the Moon. And don’t forget the Wright Brothers…I believe they came from the Punjab region of India if am not mistaken.

    • The__Bobster

      And just exactly how is an intense debate of IQ test scores crucial for reversing post-1965 immigration policy?

      Because most of the new immigrant groups have average IQ’s in the 85-89 range?

      • wattylersrevolt

        And if the average score was 150, woud this make the case for race-replacing the majority Native Born White American American Population with Chinese..millions of them? Bobster..I don’t want to be mean but your post is either1)stupid or 2) you are making the case for replacing Native Born White Americans with millions of chinese…I pray that you are neither…just a temporary bout of insanity.

        • dhs

          It certainly makes the case for employers needing workers with high mental capacity, especially if those workers generate Diversity credit from the EEO.

        • Nathanwartooth

          The reason why they are important is because groups with different IQs don’t mix very well. If we get a bunch of high IQ Asians they will drive down the pay of good high tech jobs and low IQ “hispanics” and Africans will drive down the pay of good low tech jobs.

          That is why it is relevant to the discussion.

          • wattylersrevolt


            So you want Jared Taylor to go around the Nation lecturing Native Born White Americans that science has established beyond shadow of doubt that asians in America are more intelligent than Native Born White a time when the asian invaders in our America are actively participating in the destruction of who knows how many centuries of Native Born White American Scientific,Medical and Engineering experience..future generations of Native Born White American Scientific,Medical and Engineering experience that won’t be developed included..the chinese,hindus,sihks, and koreans will make sure that this is a permanent state of affairs in the new “America”. Once this expereince is lost in the Native Born White American Population is wll be lost permanently. This is in the realm of genocide against Native Born White Americans.

            The mad calibrator Steve Sailer has been a cancer on this movement. He was the braintrust for Pat Buchannan’s newest book. It was a complete dud…policy wonk obsession with IQ test scores…when he could have gone after the asian invader. And if he had gone after the asian invader…the asians would have gone apoplectic..and in the process giving the Native Born White American Patriot Movement lots of free publicity!!!!

            The IQ test score obsession is a hidden backdoor to Native Born White American race-replacement.

            Orville and Neville Wright were from the Punjabi region of India if I am not mistaken. And Kelly Johnson founder of the Skunkworks supersonic research depatment at Lockheed was from Seoul South Korea if I am not mistaken.

  • JohnEngelman

    If mental aptitude tests are meaningless, why is it that employers in the private sector increasingly rely on them in making employment decisions?

    The government can waive those tests because it is not in direct competition with other entities. Universities can waive them because when a member of a politically favored minority gets into a school where he or she is unable to perform adequately, the university still gets to keep the tuition money when the minority member drops out or flunks out.

    Employers in the private sector pay lip service to affirmative action. Nevertheless, they know it matters to get the most capable employees, and that if they do not their competitors will.

    The U.S. military pioneered intelligence testing during the First World War, and has used it ever since. In 1984 George Orwell said that the ruling ideology can insist that 2 + 2 = 5. It can punish those who claim otherwise. Nevertheless, when it is really important, such as in military matters, it will always be quietly understood that 2 + 2 = 4.

    • The__Bobster

      Companies do test applicants anymore because of this insane SCOTUS decision. Instead, they make them waste four years of their lives going to college.

      In Griggs v. Duke Power Co., the Supreme Court decides that where an employer uses a neutral policy or rule, or utilizes a neutral test, and this policy or test
      disproportionately affects minorities or women in an adverse manner, then the
      employer must justify the neutral rule or test by proving it is justified by
      business necessity. The Court reasons that Congress directed the thrust of Title
      VII to the consequences of employment practices, not simply the motivation. This
      decision paves the way for EEOC and charging parties to challenge employment
      practices that shut out groups if the employer cannot show the policy is
      justified by business necessity.

      • Nathanwartooth

        Yes I read a blog post about that on SBPDL and it was very interesting.

      • SLCain

        “Companies do test applicants anymore because of this insane SCOTUS
        decision. Instead, they make them waste four years of their lives going
        to college.”

        Count on the supreme court to become even more hostile to white interests, once Obama has appointed a couple more justices. You can thank the vast throng of welfare scroungers for putting Obama in office. And John Engelman too – he voted for Obama.

    • David Ashton

      There are different aspects to intelligence, and these may vary from race to race.

    • Dan Jones

      The demonstrable cost savings from the use of “IQ” tests in the US military are a huge
      monument to the scientific foundations of such testing but its a story that seldom gets
      the detailed review that it deserves within undergraduate courses relevant to psychology and personnel selection.

  • Francis Galton

    Since IQ tests are apparently meaningless, does that mean we can now retroactively execute murderers whose “IQ’s” were measured to be below 70?

    Huh, what’s that…oh, we CAN use these IQ tests whenever it benefits grievance-mongers and their pet groups? I see…sorry, boss.

    • HamletsGhost

      Exactly! Another example of how liberals will shamelessly move the goal posts to fit their latest pot of twit-twaddle arguments to sound like the most pious, but really sound like the most pompous asses in the room.

    • i am

      [liberal logic] IQ tests are meaning less when the mean something, but mean something when they are meaning less. [/liberal logic]

  • Anon

    Amazing the amount of ignorance with regard to IQ. These tests are NORMATIVE tests. They are not objective tests. Nor are they measures. They do not measure how much intelligence you have. In fact, it is ignorant to treat intelligence as something you have an amount of.

    What do the results of a normative test mean? It means you are either normal. Or you are not. You are either like most people. Or you are not.

    IQ is not a measure of intelligence. It’s a test for mental defectiveness. An abnormally low IQ has a specific set of traits associated with it that amount to failure whenever a mental task is attempted. Everyone agrees on that.

    IQ can also be abnormally high. However, unlike abnormally low IQ, no one can agree as to what this means. Correlations with success are at best, controversial……even a self-fulfilling prophecy. The bottom line is a person with normal IQ will usually succeed when attempting a mental task and usually understand, with varying degrees of effort, complex techniques and subjects. High IQ people can, but not always, are better able to engage tasks that are “more” difficult or complex. Realistically, there is little difference between normal and high IQ people and definitely nothing in the way of a continuum exists with IQ. The entire group shares one trait. The ability to live in, understand, be productive in, and contribute to a first world society and culture.

    Low IQ people are extremely different in that they cannot do these things.

    Why is this important? IQ is NOT a valid reason for social stratification. People with normal and high IQs can easily and equally live together and it would be extremely difficult to guess who was whom.

    Mental deficiency, however, is a powerful and important mean for keeping people out of normal neighborhoods. They do NOT get along with others. In fact, they have a tendency, based on race, to be culture and society destroyers. Usually violent, offensive and deeply, deeply sick, it is obvious who they are. You don’t really need the test for that.

    By the way, that is why the test was developed. The US military needed a test to quickly and easily separate out losers who could not benefit from training and education. With limited budgets, they didn’t want to waste too much money on washouts. The tests work perfectly for their intended purpose.

    The problem is the tests show us what we all already know but are investing huge amounts of time, effort and resources to deny. All the mental defectives (outside a very small group with genetic disorders) are black. Only a tiny group of blacks have normal IQ, mostly because of race mixing with whites. In black countries like haiti or in africa, NOBODY is normal.

    • Rosebud

      So what does this mean for our black population here in the US? That their generally low IQ makes them mentally unfit to exist in a “first class” nation like America? What about those blacks who aren’t products of miscegenation and whose IQs are within the “normal” white range?

      You know, all this talk about IQ as being the an indicator for ovetall intelligence fails to take into consideration other factors that requires mental agility, such as musical talent and atheticism. I believe that these things are emphasized in Gardner’s “Multiple Intelligence” Theory.

      As for doing away with standardized IQ test, well, like the rest of you, I think that’s a foolish move; but only because we’ve yet to come up with a more precise and concrete method of fully measuring one’s mental guff. The way I see it, one’s intellectual quotient doesn’t completely access one’s cognitive skills.

      • Neither Chuck Berry’s guitar nor Jesse Owens’s legs got us to the moon.

        • Caracal

          Right, but it also took the combination of different talents and intelligence from thousands of people to do so. Those high IQ scientists may have laid down the project on paper, but it still took the manual skills of those mechanics and the physicality of those astronauts to get the job done. Whites have it all, and only having a high IQ is not enough which is also why asians will never have it done with only their own people just like blacks.

          • The Verdict of History

            Even after generations of evolution, I doubt that the negroid will manage to elevate himself to the level of even the lowliest of European peoples… as for Asians, I suspect that they will accelerate toward and, after an eventual White decline, surpass us in the realm of creative and expansive thought which seems to entail skills beyond the scope of G factor (IQ) ability…

        • Rosebud

          Areas that whites and Asians generally excel in. But putting a man on the moon required actual physical effort, from building the space shuttle to being physically able to handle the rigors of outer space. Whites alone could not have made such a gigantic feat for its time without the labor of others.

          Like I said, the IQ measurements that we have now don’t tell the whole story about group or individual intelligence. In the real world, it takes more than just a high intellect to succeed. You need to be physically able to apply yourself to reach your objective.

          Perhaps blacks may never develop a civilization comparable to that white European due to their not-so-high IQs. But if you’re a “Darwinist” like I am, blacks have survived this long without European presence until the last couple of hundred years. Whether whites will survive this century is anyone’s guess.

        • StillModerated

          About as much as Michael King’s preaching, and the willingness of pop culture vendors to declare (h)its legacy both true and unquestionable.

      • The Verdict of History

        For one thing, it is unclear to what degree IQ adequately measures creative ability…. Hence, the East Asian IQ is tremendously impressive, though their inventive capabilities pale in comparison to – and can hardly hold a candle
        to – those of European peoples… IQ test may measure reasoning and aptitude skills, but to what extent can they gauge imaginative and creative processing? — THAT is the real question.

    • Caracal

      “Amazing the amount of ignorance with regard to IQ. These tests are NORMATIVE tests.”

      THANK YOU ! I’m one of the few here who couldn’t care less about how high certain groups’ IQs are, but always knew that what really matters is how LOW.

      IQ tests also cannot measure nor doesn’t imply will power, honesty, laboriousness, initiative, independence, friendliness, patience, positive attitude, carefulness, loyalty and on and on, which are all needed to make the most of your inborn intelligence.

      PERSONALITY TRAITS are what make you successful and prosperous in life, and a higher IQ will lead you nowhere you are also a push over, egocentric, lazy, introverted, shy, overconfident, rude, etc, etc,…

      A normal IQ and an entrepreneurial mind is what made Whites evolve so much faster than the other races. We are also the most balanced intellectually and physically, and no other race or group can collectively dominate us with having just a higher IQ (ie: asians/jews) or higher physicality (blacks).


      • Refugee

        There is a certain amount of insecurity that goes with people who are obsessed with (high) IQ. It’s a way of making certain that everyone knows how bright they really are, and just how different they are from those people..”below me!” I’m up here and you’re there. They must make people always remember and acknowledge that.

        Many people here don’t give a damn about racial solidarity in the white race.

        • Refugee

          …In other words, some are here only for self-aggrandizement.

  • This is Rushton’s school. It’s as if they deliberately did this study, to stuff his life’s work and legacy down the rabbit hole, and as if they are embarrassed that they ever gave him tenure.

    • Oil Can Harry

      It could also be that they waited for him to die before releasing this exercise in junk science.
      They knew all too well that were Rushton still alive he would have eviscerated this study with ease.

    • KevinPhillipsBong

      I was thinking the same thing.

  • wattylersrevolt

    By this point in time, you should have a much deeper…and profound…understanding of the State of Virginia’s Riparian Ecosystems than the-eyes-glaze-over and fog-mind numbing psychometrics…by many orders o magnitude…because if you did, you would understand the very serious threat those high IQ test scoring chinese and koreans pose to our American…it does not belong to the chinese and koreans…Riparian Ecosystems,for these are the very two imported asian immigrant groups that have introduced all the various species of asian snakehead fish…including the really vicious giant snakehead fish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…stay out of the Potomac boys and girls!!!….
    This is what you should be doing Jared, for if you did..just think of the eardum bursting howls of outrage that you will provoke among White Leftist-Liberals
    ..and all the free publicity you will give the Native Born White American Patriot Movement. Lots of free pubicity=greater possibilities for mobilizing the current inert Native Born White American population…for it is only when they realize what they are going to have to give up for racial minority status…it has to be blood and guts and visceral…before the long overdue race-revolt can commence. Psychometrics:a big yawn.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble


      I was reading a list on a trivia site the other day: 10 Most Destructive Invasive Species and that awful “fish” was listed as #2:

      The article stated:

      The Northern Snakehead (Channa argus) is a fish native to China and Korea that will eat all the fish in a pond, then start on the other animals living there. In Asia they are grown for food, and they are kept in rice paddies in order to kill pests that may damage crops.

      In 2000, a man in Crofton, Maryland ordered two snakeheads from a fish market in New York to make soup for his ailing sister. However, the woman recovered, so he put the live fish in his aquarium. When they grew too large for the aquarium, he let them go in a nearby pond. The snakeheads thrived and reproduced.

      But here’s the kicker -snakeheads can walk. They can travel from one water source to another by maneuvering on their fins, and young fish can survive days without water, as they have tiny sacs above their gills that can draw oxygen from air! In 2004, snakeheads were found in the Potomac River.

      A truly vile species. An unwanted illegal immigrant for sure, as are the ones who released them. I imagine in China today, any White introducing such a non-native species would quickly find a bullet in the back of his head.

      I have no plans to take a swim in the Potomac — but I know of several pro-immigration/illegal immigrant politicians who should be thrown in!!


      • StillModerated

        Damn! Look at the yap on that beast. They live in the freshly cleaned Cheaspeake Bay watershed. The other ones were brought here by greedy capitalists looking to make a quick buck and live large. They were painfully aware of what getting too liberal would do.

  • So CAL Snowman

    Proudly rocking a 133 over here in the land of horchata and frijoles

    • StillModerated

      with a wetsuit?

  • Tom P

    There may well be thousands of alert young readers who will take this to indicate “authoritatively” that the work of such genuine giants as Jensen, Rushton, Lynn, Brand,
    Gottfredson…is now forever exposed and demolished. Over the last five decades, I’ve
    encountered dozens of such MSM “bomshells”.glibly blabbed forth in all too many undergraduate classrooms. This must be the …what?….73rd ? demolition
    of the London school focus upon “g”.

  • IKantunderstand

    Gosh, do you think they meant anything by using as examples, winners of sprint races, and winners of marathons? Mmmm, are we smart enough to see where this is going?

  • falsedawn

    It’s interesting this comes up. Every month, I ask my board of education superintendant why he doesn’t give the children IQ tests. Of course he uses all sorts of mumbo jumbo verbal nonsense to tell me the tests aren’t accurate, fair (actually he doesn’t use the word “fair” in my presence anymore in that my “the world is unfair” response unnerves him) , needed, etc. But I’m undetered. Each month, I’m back at the BOE meeting chiping away at him and the other morons who make up the board. I advise everyone here to make those meetings. At some points, they’re even hilarious. I never knew such ridiculous people existed as are on those boards.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    The problem with IQ tests is that when a person scores perfectly, their IQ can not be measured with that test.

    • StillModerated

      Offering a gold medal to the fastest person to finish the IQ test could be interesting. A champion mental athlete. Have competitions sell tickets get sponsors to buy TV time develop performance-enhancing drugs. Nah it would never sell!

  • APaige

    I am sure just what blacks want to hear…the tests they do poorly on are too simple.

  • WardKendall

    The authors of this leftist-driven “study” have already been refuted by The Bell Curve and are simply attempting a new assault on the Beaches of Equality where so many of their comrades have already have fallen. And until they are ultimately defeated, they will not rest – nor must we.

    • Nathanwartooth

      I’m sure your book is great and everything but there is just something about that banner and you plugging it in a post that turns me off.

  • Aaron

    “They discovered that far from being down to one single factor, what is commonly regarded as intelligence is influenced by three different elements – short-term memory, reasoning, and verbal ability.

    But being good at one of these factors does not mean you are going to be equally gifted at the other two.”
    So a test that covered two or more of those factors could be meaningful? This author isn’t as slick as he thinks he is.

  • The correlation between primitive societies and low IQ is too strong to dismiss IQ as simplistic. The ave. IQ for sub-Saharan africa is about 67. Now compare that with countries where the ave. IQ is 100. In high IQ countries, when you find poverty, you will find the lowest IQ people as being the cause of it. Imagine what the world would look like today if the ave. IQ for the human race was 67.

    • Franklin Ryckaert

      Not difficult to answer : the whole world would look like sub-Sahara Africa, with as its “highest” architectural achievement the ruins of Zimbabwe. But of course in that case nobody would feel that as a lack since we wouldn’t know any better.

      “All men evolved unequally”, this is the highest truth.

      • StillModerated

        We’ll probably find out that Europeans built the ruins at Zimbabwe.

  • If blacks scored as high as Asians and whites, you better believe that IQ tests would be deemed accurate.

    • Franklin Ryckaert

      Yes, what the Leftoids really are trying to do is to construct is an “excuse” pseudo-science.

  • guest

    We should use our high IQs collectively to stop our own genocide and take our countries back.

  • Sloppo

    I suppose this means the Zulu tribe has a 50% chance of producing a more advanced automobile than the German tribesmen over at Mercedes Benz next year. Hopefully Nicholas McDermott will be able to afford one of those fine Zulu cars.

  • wattylersrevolt


    You know, I really was thinking about kayaking the Potomac this past summer after talking to someone at that hamburger-milkshake joint on the corner in Port Royal Virginia. She told me that there are category 5 rapids a few miles just up from where the Potomac flows into DC. But I said to myself:”What if I got knocked out of my Kayak…and the vicious giant asian snakehead head was swimming around eager to tuck in on my Irish flesh-“cornbeef and cabbage”….human variety. Instead, I went kayaking up in Adirondacks on the Hudson…still get knocked in a category four rapids…but no missing appendages though…the giant asian snakehead fish apparentlly has yet to leap out of the large plexi-glass fishtanks on display as window decoration in the many chinese restaraunts in China Town Manhattan and gone for a nature hike up North to Lake George

    The first asian snakehead fish was introduced into Potomac River around ten or more years ago by a lone legal immigrant from China. He was performing an ancient and sacred Chinese Ritual after a family member….his sister specifically….recovered from a serious physical illness. He did his duty, and released a pregnant asian snakehead fish into the Potomac..the ritual requires releasing a snakehead fish into a river. Thus began the massive ecological destabilization of the State of Virginia’s Riparian Ecosystems. There have been many many inroductions of various asian snakehead fish throught Riparian Ecosystems throughout our America by chinese and korean immigrants.

    Why do we have to put up with this nonesense? Because two billionaire filthy rootless cosmopolitans..Bill Gates and Michael Bloomberg..were emphatic in publicly stating that asians in American are obviously more intelligent than the Native White American Population and that the Native White American Population couldn’t manage without the asians being in America? I mean this is boldface-vicious over-the-top lying by two sociopaths.

    Engaging in a debate about IQ test score psychometrics will always block a discussion of the very serious threat that legal immigrant asian invaders and their absolutely predatory asian “American” geneline pose to Americas Wildlife and Wilderness areas. I mean just look at Steve Salers’ blog the past few is a blizzard of mad calibrator obsession with standardized testing. Maybe Sailer is afflicted with Aspergers Syndrome?

    If Pat Buchanan had written in his most recent book about the ecological themes that I post here and on the other websites over the past four years..his book would have provoked violent outrage in the asian invader community…and this of course would have been a very good thing indeed!!! Free pubicity for the cause of the Native Born White American Patriot Movement…his book would still be a number one best seller on the NYT best seller list two years after publication.

    The IQ testing psychometric debate that Jared wants to have is 100 percent irrelevant to the fundamental issue of Native Born White American race-replacement at the hands of high fertility post-1965 asian invaders of our America.

  • kc

    The problem with IQ tests is not that they’re meaningless but rather too meaningful.

  • Lou406

    A low IQ score is only meaningless when it makes Blacks look bad. When it can be used as a reason to not execute a Black death row inmate, as was the case in Texas, it suddenly become valid and worthy of utmost consideration.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    If IQ tests are “meaningless”, then why did California decide it necessary to make it illegal to give a black child an IQ test?

  • A Reader

    Another idiocy from Soviet-style “scientsts” who “proved” that “scientific” socialism is superior to free market economy. It reminds me of “race is a social construct” nonsense now being vigorously propagated by many Anthropology Departments.
    The “Liberal” scientists are not committed to the pursuit of truth. They are out to obscure it every time when the facts contradict their fallacious ideology.
    They should be banned form our universities forever.

    • Joseph

      Actually, I’d welcome the public exposure of their error IF they would just allow anyone else with an intellectual flashlight in to pierce the darkness of their closed-shop system.

      But they won’t. Alternate views are “hate” or “not worthy of discourse” or “discredited”. The idea most terrifying is true “academic freedom.

  • Joseph

    In a similar vein, future news from the leftist septic think-tank:

    “Social scientists discover that the social construct called crime is ‘…meaningless and too simplistic’ thus not subject to objective quantification. Conventional crime statistics have therefore been invalidated as inherently flawed due to the complexity of the issue and the cultural biases in defining crime itself.

    Professor Gib Smedat of the Intercultural Awareness and Transgender Studies Program at Bantu International University of Illinois explains: ‘This represents a revolutionary sea-change in our thinking about interpersonal relationships…and a Get Out of Jail Free Card for heretofore oppressed former minorities.’

    Though some less progressive law-enforcement agencies and vocal ultra-right hate groups identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center have been slow to accept the findings, the Justice Department spokesperson Louis Farrakhan says that the data are solid and conclusions unequivocal.

    After consoling the hundreds of thousands of newly pardoned inmates families outside the U.S. Supreme Court building, a teary-eyed President Michelle Obama said that in her thrid term she would do everything in her power to ‘engage’ a dialogue with Americans, including law enforcement and mental health professionals, because ‘we can’t tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end. And to end them we must change.’ She went on to explain that the reins of power have been transferred back ‘…to ‘the rightful owners of the country, who by their unjust slavery and toil, built this nation, the melting pot of civilization.’

    As a symbol of this new revolution of equality and harmony the former “White House” will be repainted and renamed “The People’s Rainbow Center” to serve as a rallying point for people throughout the world who have sufferd the false imprisonment and oppression of archaic white hegemony. The 103 year old Nelson Mandela will be present for the dedication.”

  • StillModerated

    Coming to think of it, I know lots of losers with high IQs. I’ve seen them marry the wrong woman, get strung out on dope, and often get low grades on tests. Perhaps if there was some measure of predicting diligence and achievement motivation.

    • Joseph

      Well they formerly had such a thing: gradeschool.