11 Years After 9/11: Who Are the Terrorists?

Peter Bergen, CNN, September 11, 2012

On August 15, Floyd Lee Corkins allegedly walked into the Family Research Council in Washington, a conservative think tank, and shot the building manager Leo Johnson in the arm, saying something along the lines of, “I don’t like your politics,” as he did so.

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Corkins was volunteering at a Washington community center for lesbian, gay and transgender individuals and his parents said their son had “strong opinions with respect to those he believes do not treat homosexuals in a fair manner.” The Family Research Council promotes the view that homosexuality is harmful to society.

Three years earlier, also in Washington, rabid anti-Semite James von Brunn was charged with shooting and killing Holocaust Museum security officer Stephen Johns. He died while in custody.

The shootings at the Holocaust Museum and Family Research Council underlined the fact that acts of political violence against civilians, commonly referred to as terrorism, can be carried out by those espousing many different types of ideology.

In fact, since the terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people at the World Trade Center and Pentagon 11 years ago, 19 people have died in terrorist attacks in the United States that were motivated by ideologies that have nothing to do with the ideas of Osama bin Laden, but rather were the victims of terrorists motivated by extreme anti-government views or virulent anti-Semitic/neo-Nazi views.

Jihadist terrorists, on the other hand, have killed 17 people, according to data compiled by the New America Foundation from thousands of news reports and court documents. (“Jihadist” terrorists are defined in this database as those associated with or motivated by al Qaeda, or its affiliates or like-minded groups.)

There have been 10 deadly attacks in the United States by nonjihadist extremists since 9/11 compared to just four by jihadists. (One of those incidents was at Fort Hood, Texas, in 2009 in which 13 were killed.)

The New America Foundation study suggests that law enforcement’s tendency to regard Muslim-American communities as the most likely source of terrorism risks missing the threat from other extremists.

Since 9/11, jihadist and nonjihadist terrorists have killed about the same number of people in the United States, yet 61% of the 337 people indicted for terrorism-related activities since the 9/11 attacks are jihadists, according to the New America Foundation data.

Since 2009 and 2010 there has been a sharp drop in the number of jihadist defendants, which peaked at 43 and 34 respectively. This year the number of jihadist defendants has dropped to 7, suggesting that the threat from these kinds of terrorists is receding.

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Additionally, the New America Foundation found that no jihadist terrorists have acquired or even attempted to acquire chemical and biological weapons since 9/11, while 11 anarchist, white supremacist or right-wing extremists have been indicted for possessing such materials, and another four were indicted for attempting to produce them.

Some politicians and much of the public continue to believe that the threat from terrorists comes from violent jihadists, when in reality far-right extremists pose as much or possibly even more of a threat, something that we would do well to consider on the 11th anniversary of 9/11.

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  • Easyrhino1

    Yes, lets not forget the “5 Dancing Israelis” that had video cameras trained on the towers before the planes hit and were subsequently arrested and held by the FBI for 60+ days.

    • currahee1911

      Easy,
      With respect, what is your source for this?  It implies that the Israelis either caused, instigated or at least knew of the conspiracy.  No matter how nefarious or powerful you perceive the Jews to be, I just don’t see how this incident could be suppressed.

      Seriously, where did you get this information?  Arrested by the FBI and held for 60 days means a large number of people would have knowledge of this.

      Please explain.

      Thank you,
      C.

      • The Whelk Collector

        C’mon you’re stopping a bull with wet toilet tissue… It’s not even “out there” the evidence is overwhelmingly proof positive. Please trwall through the 1000’s of hours of 9/11 evidence like most of us have done with objectivity paramount, but admittedly a growing sense of despair and shock as the truth of that dreadfull day eveloves with a life of it’s own; based on fact.

        • currahee1911

          Okay, give me a starting point.
          Thanks,
          C.

      • blight14

         Easy is 100% correct…..

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

          “currahee1911 wrote –
         No matter
        how nefarious or powerful you perceive the Jews to be, I just don’t see
        how this incident could be suppressed.”

        But people like you will believe in preposterous nonsense about the Holohoax(R) regardless of how much the evidence defies the laws of physics. Eye witness liars are more reliable than the laws of the universe. Those innocent little jews are always getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar, but there is never any evidence against them: They are always being persecuted. It is all antisemitism, even though jews are not Semites, and Semitism isn’t a religion; its a race, but jews, who claim to be Semites are not a race but a religion.  1+1=3: jewish arithmetic.

      • Please pass this on to those you know.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVdAOmUduEQ

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYIZW959vJc

        This story was buried as soon as it aired.

    • WHO ARE THE TERRORISTS

      The TEA PARTY has been labeled as a Terrorist organization.  People who want a smaller government are now terrorists.  

    • blight14

      Oh come now, surely not our ‘ally’…….I mean, what did they have to gain? Wait, never mind…..

  • Puggg

    Additionally, the New America Foundation found that no jihadist
    terrorists have acquired or even attempted to acquire chemical and
    biological weapons since 9/11, while 11 anarchist, white supremacist or
    right-wing extremists have been indicted for possessing such materials, and another four were indicted for attempting to produce them.

    “Attempting” to produce them = Bogus “conspiracy” charges that some “informant” probably made up or provoked.  “Possessing such materials” is something you can do when you shovel cow manure.

    • SLCain

      Yes, most of those charges against “right-wing extremists” were cases of entrapment, as indeed have been many cases brought against muslims.   Some of the muslims reallly did express interest in committing acts of terrorism.  But the way do deal with that is not to gin up a phony plot for them to sign on to and them lock them away at our expense for the rest of their lives.  The way to deal with that is to not let them into our country in the first place.

      With the so-called “domestic terrorists”, as you say, it’s not even clear if they really did anything at all.  They were probably just rail-roaded by the heresay testimony of a government snitch.

      The FBI, BATF, etc., well, they are government employees after all.  Why try to catch real criminals?  It’s so much work!  Much easier to just manufacture an entrapment case against some hapless loser.

  • WmarkW

    ” The New America Foundation study suggests that law enforcement’s
    tendency to regard Muslim-American communities as the most likely source
    of terrorism risks missing the threat from other extremists.”

    Yes, the 99% non-Jihadist population commits the same number of homicides as the 1% who are.  We’re obviously not allocating our resources properly.

    • Eagle_Eyed

      Exactly.  When you have to lump in abortionist killers, “tolerant” homo marriage advocates, and the occasional white anti-semite to equal radical Islamist jihadists you’re stretching to make a point.

      • IstvanIN

        “tolerant” homo marriage advocates

        How is being for gay marriage the equivalent of people who commit murder and mayhem?

        • .

          He was referring to the guy who shot the security guard at the Family Research Council headquarters  a few weeks ago.

  • IstvanIN

    What?  The total mayhem committed by white right-wingers, anarchists, communists, regular run of the mill thugs and criminals and other assorted white crazies pales in comparison to the amount of murder, rape and destruction caused by either blacks alone or Hispanics alone.  And that is the truth.  I would rather take my chances with a white terrorist.

  • Stentorian_Commentator

    Where do they get their jihadist numbers from?  I count 13 at Fort Hood alone.  Then there’s the recruiting station shooter, the Beltway sniper.  Seems like it should be higher.

    • Enar_Larsson

       And we should also count the jihadists attempts that were foiled. The Christmas Eve plane over Detroit, the guy who thought he was buying a bomb to strap onto a radio-controlled airplane, the Times Square bombing attempt, the Buffalo Six, the Portland Seven, the Fort Dix plot, the Bronx terrorism plot, the LA bomb plot, the 2011 Manhattan plot, etc. Many of the plotters listed failed to actually procure their bombs or bombmaking materials but why make that a consideration for the story? And why are some of the jihadists being counted as “anti-semitic”? They surely are anti-semitic but that label is used intentionally to make us think those attacks were by whites.

      The bigger issue here, however, which would be hilarious if it weren’t so serious, is that the author says “since the terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people at the World Trade Center…” and then goes on with his numbers. Why in the world start counting after 9/11? If you include 9/11 then the number killed by jihadists is 3, 017 to 19 by non-jihadists. So why don’t we compare from 9/10/01 up till today?

    • Ulick

      “Where do they get their jihadist numbers from? I count 13 at Fort Hood alone.”

      Oh, you must have missed the memo.  The Obama Administration and the Holder DOJ assured us that the Fort Hood Massacre was just “workplace violence”.  Definitely not terrorism even if Nidal Hassan yelled “Allahu Akbar!”  Nothing to see here.  Look away.

      http://nation.foxnews.com/ft-hood-shooting/2011/12/07/obama-regime-calls-ft-hood-shooting-workplace-violence

  • “…victims of terrorists motivated by extreme anti-government views or virulent anti-Semitic/neo-Nazi views.”

    There you have it.

    The ADL and SPLC have set the agenda. These are the people who need to be watched.

  • .

    This article lists their data source as The New American Foundation. According to Frontpage Magazine, The New American Foundation is not only backed by Soros but has his son on its leadership council. Therefore, one should assume it has an agenda. I don’t have numbers for 2011 but all 126 people indicted on terrorist-related charges in the United States in 2009 and 2010 were Muslim. In other words, this is a propaganda piece.

    •  No need to even find the backers.  All you need to do is read the words “right-wing extremists” to know they have an agenda.

    • Bad_Mr_Frosty

      Islam is a religion of peace, but the Tea Party is a breeding ground for home grown terrorists. It is so hard to maintain one’s sanity in the Orwellian nightmare of a country…

  • jackryanvb

    Don’t get bogged down in stats. Just go with the sane idea of keeping NW Muslim terrorists/immigrants out. Regular Whites in all remaining White communities support this policy.

    The 9-11-01 terrorists are the best example of “us vs them”. Keep them out so eh don’t kill us.

  • Dean_Wormers_Hot_Wife

    White privilege is now criminalized, and soon will be charged with “terroristic intent” against Diversity, Fairness, Inclusion, Equity, Gay Marriage, and Approved Social Climate.

    • blight14

       Hey Dean, I see you commenting on other sites, always a ‘like’ from me…..

  • currahee1911

    Interesting, the source is not, why would such Mossad agents so expose themselves?  They went back to Israel and explained it all on t.v., Mossad agents? 

    Doesn’t quite add up, any more sources?

  • “There have been 10 deadly attacks in the United States by nonjihadist
    extremists since 9/11 compared to just four by jihadists. (One of those
    incidents was at Fort Hood, Texas, in 2009 in which 13 were killed.)”

    Now show us the global statistics.

    “The New America Foundation study suggests that law enforcement’s
    tendency to regard Muslim-American communities as the most likely source
    of terrorism risks missing the threat from other extremists.”

    Somebody should teach this guy the concept of proportion.

  • AmericanTaxPayerNoMore

    The gay person who attacked the Family Research Center was not a “terrorist”, he was a brat and a liar as there is no discrimination against homosexuals.  There is however, many laws that protect them.  Homosexuals have so much privilege in fact, if one them gets killed during a robbery, the perp will not only be charged with murder and robbery, they’ll be charged with hate crime simply because the victim was gay and that’s even when the perp had no idea about their sexual orientation.  You can’t even be against homosexuality without being condemned for it.

    The person who attacked the Jew Center was not a “terrorist”, a “rabid anti-semite” or “neo-nazi”.  Because this “author” chooses to call that White Man such vile and racist names while not doing the same to the homosexual, I find this “author” to be a liar who has an evil agenda and one who clearly hates White People and so, this White Man is Innocent.  I won’t play along with this kind of hate.  If they can’t bring themselves to write about violent acts committed by people without singling out the White People for extra hateful name calling, then I can’t see any “crime” that was committed.

    Last, because this racist just had to throw in the non-existent word “white supremacist”, this “author” is great big fat huge deliberate liar and that’s it.  Seriously, there is no such word “white supremacist”.  There is only “supremacist” and that means that anyone of any race can be a supremacist.  As a matter of fact, asians are supremacists and so are jews.  Blacks and hispanics are supremacists too.  Each group of people think their own people are better than everybody else and that makes everyone a supremacist.

  • ncpride

    In the days following bin Ladens death, I was shocked at the number of people on news sites who didn’t know he had never actually been charged with 9/11 because they didn’t have any evidence, and that he always denied having anything to do with it.

    • SLCain

       We mounted a military expedition to find him and kill him.  Putting out an APB is kind of beside the point.

      • ncpride

        I just stated a fact pal, so you can take your sarcasm and name calling elsewhere. You are not ‘arguing’ with anyone but rather running around this thread belittling and scoffing at anyone who doesn’t buy the government version of what happened on 9/11. Why don’t you just state what you believe, and move on.

  • Lou406

    “”Since 9/11, jihadist and nonjihadist terrorists have killed about the same number of people in the United States””Basically 1% of our population (Muslims) are responsible for as much terror as the other 99%.
    Not very reassuring if you ask me, but then of course, I’m a hate filled, right wing Islamophobe, or something like that.

    • blight14

       The amount of actual carnage by the ‘1%’ pales in comparison to the exponential evil perpetrated by the ‘2%’…..

  • SLCain

    Pretty thin gruel.  They were probably sent here to surveil palestinians, and consequently had a lot of video equipment on hand.  When the towers were hit, they broke out the cameras and started filming.  Wouldn’t you?

    And yes, they acted like callous bastards.  I don’t believe Israel is our friend – but that’s a long way from being complicit in mass murder.  If Israel had done it, why would they implicate Osama bin Laden?  Why wouldn’t they implicate Iran?  It’s nonsense – an unfalsifiable conspiracy theory.

    • blight14

       Again, Easy is correct…..’radical muzzys’ are not responsible for those buildings falling….

      • SLCain

        Believe whatever damned thing you like.  Believe that the World Trade Center was brought down by Zeus’s thunderbolts.  It’s not worth arguing with you deluded idiots.

      • Bantu Education

         So we have nothing to fear from Islam, and its a mirage that Muslims are occupying Europe and that they have ill  intentions towards us?   I understand you might have issues with Jews in general but I cant believe how deluded you can be.   Makes me worried for our cause.

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

       http://news.yahoo.com/us-sees-israel-tight-mideast-ally-spy-threat-132232395.html

      Oh, and Tom in Miami, you will notice a picture of the event you say never happened is shown in the article.

  • SLCain

    “While I do not want our nation to become Islamic, I do not believe the government’s “conspiracy theory” about the 19 hijackers.”

    Do you realize that by promoting the bogus “false-flag” 9/11 conspiracy theory, you are actually helping spread Islam in this country?  One of the best arguments for keeping muslims out of the US is……………9/11.  And you are undermining it.   “Truthers” actually generate sympathy for muslims (oh, those poor muslims – unjustifiably accused of being terrorists….. etc.)  Of course that’s not the best reason for not promoting the “Truth” movement (“Truth” in quotes here, pointedly).  The best reason is that it’s ridiculous nonsense.

  • blight14

     As in NOT 19 primitives living in caves with an old Win98 laptop……

  • blight14

    On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
    was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply
    was: “It’s very good……Well, it’s not good, but it will generate immediate
    sympathy for Israel”

  • SLCain

     And it is of course well known that every single thing to be found on the internet is 100% true.

  • SLCain

    “Not only is the current evidence
    overwhelming that our government, and NOT some random muslims, were
    behind 9/11 but that this was a false flag attack to get us to fight
    wars for israel and israel agents were not only involved, but
    arrested….and released.  This is only a controversial statement among a
    shrinking minority of Americans who still believe the initial lies
    about 9/11.  Everyone else in the world has noted that every single
    intelligence agency and government in the world has come to the same
    conclusion and now, those involved in the US military at the time ADMIT
    it.”

    Baldly asserting something is not the same as producing evidence.  But you clowns never have evidence, do you?  Only cognoscenti like you, with secret knowledge, can possibly understand the world.  The rest of us are just “sheeple”.  You people really disgust me.

    • TeutonicKnight67

       “For the first time in history, fire melted steel!” – Rosie O’Donnell

      Thank You SLCain! I am so sick of this conspiracy crap! I distrust and sometimes HATE the Govt but to believe the Govt was complicit with Zionist agents is beyond the beyonds. Sometimes things really ARE just as they seem. I know what I saw and heard and have no trouble believing that sick, savage MOSLEM ANIMALS intentionally murdered thousands of our civilians. They have been after us on our own soil for years and haven’t tried to hide it. Yet I’m expected to believe that the US Govt, the Mossad, The Saudis, the Islamists, Bush, Halliburton, Cheney etc etc etc All  were secretly working TOGETHER on this??
      Absolutely preposterous! Why not throw in Freemasonry and the Illuminati for good measure.

      All this pointless bickering is nothing but a distraction from the real danger at hand…the willful subjugation of White European culture worldwide. Flooding the west with useless immigrants is destroying us, not the Mossad.
       

      • Puggg

         Steel does not need to totally melt in order for it to fail.  Hot temperatures even below the melting point will weaken it enough such that if its task is to support a very tall building, it will fail and the building will fall. I think the airliner-building collision was enough to produce the requisite heat to do that.

        My 9/11 trutherism falls into this category:  Did the CIA and NSA know in advance, and sit on it for the sake of some agenda, or did the knowledge get lost in some bureaucratic morass?  I don’t think an event as big as 9/11 can happen without someone supposedly part of the “good guys” knowing, so one of these two have to be true.  Either way, the CIA and NSA should be eliminated if all they do is fail when we need them in our hour of need.

        No, I don’t trust Mossad, but I also don’t trust the CIA, MI5 and the “intelligence” paradigm in general.  I’d also be happy to oppose going to war to help Israel, except I can’t find an example of our doing so.  Iraq had to do with oil and Bush, and Afghanistan was trying to punish the people who did and protected the doers of 9/11.

        • anonymous_amren

           Your 9/11 trutherism falls into this category: foolish belief in the omnipotence and omniscience of governments.

          It was a very simple, easy thing for Muslims to do in secret. But it would be a very hard thing for the government to do in secret. Muslims have a very obvious reason for wanting to do it. The government has absolutely no need to do it.

          • Puggg

            There’s the third possibility that I don’t want to consider, because we spend so much money on intel:  Was the CIA just plain unable to penetrate the 9/11 plot circle, and/or the NSA unable to find it in order to hear it?

            I don’t think the CIA participated even one bit in the effort to help us find OBL’s hiding place.

            If that possibility is right, then my conclusion hasn’t changed:  Eliminate the CIA and NSA, and deport all non-citizen Muslims.

  • Aaron997

    Non-Islamic terrorists outnumber Islamic terrorists by 1.5 to 1.
    Of course, when you remember that non-Muslims outnumber Muslims 150 to 1, then the numbers still make Muslims look bad.

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    “… but rather were the victims of terrorists motivated by extreme anti-government views or virulent anti-Semitic/neo-Nazi views.”

    It always about the jews, but they can’t name one incident.

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

     This is a reply to Tom in Miami: Disqus won’t go deeper than 4 replies.

    “Tom in Miami wrote – And PM Netanyahu was just snubbed by the US President who refused to
    meet with him.  How is this possible if Israel controls the US
    Government?”

    The jews also control the Media. Don’t believe everything they tell you. Jews are always being persecuted. Nobody likes them. Boo Hoo.

    The jews claimed that Hitler snubbed Jesse Owens. Jesse Owens tells a different story.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Owens

    “”Hitler had a certain time to come to the stadium and a certain time to
    leave.” “It happened he had to leave before the victory ceremony after
    the 100 meters. But before he left I was on my way to a broadcast and
    passed near his box. He waved at me and I waved back. I think it was bad
    taste to criticize the ‘man of the hour’ in another country.””

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v5n1p123.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205572/Hitler-shook-hands-black-1936-Olympic-hero-Jesse-Owens.html

  • CSThinker

    8 months before 9/11  an Israeli Company called ZionAir tested a plane that had the ability to become totally invisible while flying at supersonic speeds. This company later moved to NYC with all its employees. Guess what, none of these employees went to the WTC and the company’s board of Directors was never questioned in the aftermath of the massacre. They all got away with it.  Proves everything.

  • humptydumpty

    the terrorists were and remain the zionists!!!

  • AmericanTaxPayerNoMore

    The “author” who wrote this joke of an article removed my post.  He apparently didn’t like being called out for his deliberate abuse of the word “supremacist”.

  • anarchyst

    Google “dancing israelis and 9-11” . . . not a conspiracy theorist, but . . . it gives one pause to think . . .

  • anarchyst

    BOTH zionism and islam are political systems masquerading as religions . . . I would require all zionists and muslims to register with the U S State department as “agents of a foreign government”. Any subversive acts (which HAVE already happened and should have been prosecuted) would be punishable under federal law and would subject these (and other like organizations such as the $PLC, ADL,) to sanction, indictment of their officers, confiscation of all property and assets and a one-way trip OUT of MY country. . .
    Fellow travelers would also be eligible for the same treatment. . . .

  • anarchyst

    Looks like I touched a “tribal” nerve again . . . my factual post got deleted.
    Thanks, moderator . . .

  • anonymous_amren

    YES you are helping spread Islam in that country, even though it is not deliberate. In the past I also accidentally helped spread Islam in your country and other countries too, it’s easy to do.

    Arguing for religious freedom is also helping spread Islam. Muslims clearly should have some of their freedoms taken away (especially the freedom to live in America).

    Suggesting that Muslims are not responsible for the terrorist attacks on the 11th of September, when they commit terrorist attacks against people like us every day, is so absurd only black people and Muslims should believe it.

    The country was founded on WHITE ideals. Black people and Mexicans are more heavily Christian than white people, but that doesn’t mean we should let them take over.

  • SLCain

    “ncpride
    I just stated a fact pal, so you can take your sarcasm and name calling
    elsewhere. You are not ‘arguing’ with anyone but rather running around
    this thread belittling and scoffing at anyone who doesn’t buy the
    government version of what happened on 9/11. Why don’t you just state
    what you believe, and move on.”

    I stated a fact too.  Mine is relevant.  Yours is not.  And yes, I am scoffing at people.  I scoff at people who espouse stupid things.

    • ncpride

      Pointing out that someone was hunted down and executed with no charges filed, evidence or admission of guilt is irrelevant in your opinion? Got it.

      • SLCain

         Yes, it is irrelevant that the FBI did not name bin Laden as a suspect in the commission of the attacks on 9/11.  I don’t believe that the FBI declared Tojo to be a suspect in the bombing of Pearl Harbor either.  War is different than police work.  As to Osama bin Laden being dead, the muslim world seems to believe he is.

  • SLCain

     “No, I’m not helping spread Islam in this country. ”

    Yes, you are.  You may think you are not, but you are.  You are helping to promote a post-modernist America, in which there is no settled truth, no facts universally agreed upon.  In short, the very situation which prevails now, and has made Americans blind to the consequences of immigration.   In terms of outcome, you “truthers” may as well be Frankfurt School marxists.