Immigrants Protest ‘Illegal’ Label

Lauren R. Harrison, Newsday, August 20, 2012

A small group of immigrants gathered in Woodbury Monday to protest the use of the word “illegal” to describe those who have entered the United States without documentation.

“By saying illegal, they’re assuming that we broke a criminal law,” said Jackeline Saavedra, 27, of Bay Shore, a Touro Law Center student who identified herself as undocumented. “Not everybody enters illegally.”

Coordinators said they prefer the phrase “undocumented immigrant.”

Osman Canales, 23, an immigrant rights advocate in Huntington who organized the protest, said using the word “illegal” criminalizes a whole community. “It’s a racist word against our community, so we’re just here to raise awareness,” he said.

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The “Drop The I-Word” campaign was organized by The Applied Research Center, a New York City-based racial justice think tank. {snip}

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Still, the word “illegal” makes Elias Llivicura, 18, who described himself as undocumented, feel “uncomfortable.”

“We also have feelings too,” said Llivicura, of Bellport, who came to Long Island from Ecuador at age 8. “It makes me feel like I’m different from everybody else,” he said. “It makes me feel like really bad inside.”

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  • IstvanIN

    Illegals make us uncomfortable, but does anyone care what we think?

    • The__Bobster

      The legal ones do, too.

  • “By saying illegal, they’re assuming that we broke a criminal law,”

    Well, you have. The only reason it’s not treated as such is INS vs Lopez-Mendoza from SCOTUS in 1984.

    “Not everybody enters illegally.”

    Technically correct, but not germane. Most illegal aliens in America overstay their legal immigrant visas, so they do “enter” legally, but they don’t “stay” legally.

    Coordinators said they prefer the phrase “undocumented immigrant.”

    I prefer “parasitic foreign invader.”  But you know the old phrase, you can wish in one hand…

    Osman Canales, 23, an immigrant rights advocate in Huntington who
    organized the protest, said using the word “illegal” criminalizes a
    whole community. “It’s a racist word against our community, so we’re
    just here to raise awareness,” he said.

    The concept of legality or illegality has no racial connotations per se.  It’s just that when applied to immigration law, certain kinds of people are “disparately impacted.”

    The “Drop The I-Word” campaign was organized by The Applied Research Center, a New York City-based racial justice think tank.

    Someone check out their funding sources.  I bet you’ll find a lot of corporations.

    • The__Bobster

      I call them ugly brown squat monster invaders. Does that make them feel “uncomfortable”?

  • Up to my neck in CA

    Well, isn’t that a coincidence, them being here makes me uncomfortable too.
    They have become so arrogant in our country that they think they can dictate to us on what to call them and how to treat them?

  • You have to give it to the Hispanic migrants: They have mastered the art of manipulating and appealing to the limp wristed rabble that is the American left.

    • It’s what they do best.

    •  You have that backwards, it was the Left that manipulated and appealed to the weak minded hispanics.

  • Sure lets change all the terms that offend CRIMINALS, Bank Robbers will now  referred to as Proactive Economically Challenged Individuals.  Rapists will now be referred as  Dynamic Social Contact Artisans.  Good night USA.

    •  Don’t forget a drug dealer is an unlicensed street pharmacist.

  • Fine I’ll stop calling them illegals, how about DEPORTABLES instead?

  • Church_of_Jed

    As good Americans who support the Dream for Everyone, we are supposed to be worried that their feelings are hurt and demonstrate our good will and commitment to their futures as productive citizens by demanding they get more social services and free stuff with our White privilege tax dollars.

  • WmarkW

    OK, but the don’t really deserved to be called “immigrants” either.
    How about “occupiers” or “trespassers”?

    • Church_of_Jed

      These occupying trespassers will one day elect the politicians and judges who will make and enforce the new American turdworld laws.

      Since property rights are an anathama to them as and “obstacle to our Dreams,” look for laws that make you a hate criminal for calling the police if an Amnesty won’t get off your property.  The police will come, and will be the Amnesty themselves, and will arrest you for “suspicion of residual White privilege”.

      It’s coming. You know it.

      Let’s just hope they first take all the Hollywood mansions from the execs who made millions feeding us poison.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Oh, those elites will be long gone by that point.  They’re already dumping the U.S. dollar, buying up gold and stashing it off-shore or overseas.

        You don’t think they’re going to live in the mess they created, do you?  A violent, Third World anarchic hell hole lorded over by non-Whites is what they created specifically for our destruction, not theirs.

        Where will they go?  There is a small middle eastern country that is busy ethnically cleansing its population of criminal-prone African refugees and other unwanted invaders and building a fortress-type wall around itself to keep its own people safe — as the U.S. military takes care of the enemies that surround it — Iraq, Syria, Libya, and soon Iran.

        Bon

    • rightrightright

      Or invader?

  • -It makes me feel like I’m different from everybody else

    You ARE different than everyone else.  You are a criminal, a tresspasser, and are out of place.  You SHOULD be made to feel bad about that.

  • IKantunderstand

    Now the word “illegal” is racist. Shall we rid ourselves of the word “welfare” ? How about the words “food stamps”?Then there’s “affordable housing”. All could be construed as racist, the way things are going. Well, I want to rid the world of the words: “diversity”, “affirmative action”, “empowerment” and multiculturalism”. I find those words make me feel uncomfortable, like I’m different. Trust me Elias, “it makes me feel like really bad inside”.  Actually, Elias, you have no idea how many people in the U.S. you make feel “like really bad inside”. Like, your English is impeccable!

  • Athling

    Undocumented Democrats.

  • crystal evans

    Illegal describes their immigration status. Immigrant describes who they are.

    • Actually, illegal describes their immigration status, while invaders describes who they are!

  • loyalwhitebriton

    What makes me feel “uncomfortable” are the countless Illegal immigrants who enter white majority nations and commit rape, robbery, murder, etc.
    Yet, apparently, my discomfort is labelled “Racism”!?

    And how long before the word “Undocumented” is outlawed? Afterall, documented implies authenticated, and authenticated implies assimilated, and because the majority population is white, thus documented > authenticated > assimilated = “Racist”.

    • MekongDelta69

      And how long before the word ‘Undocumented’ is outlawed?

      Whenever the left decides they don’t like the word any more. The left has defined the English language for almost 50 years now.

      ‘problem’ is now ‘issue’
      ‘colored person’ is now ‘person of color’
      ‘waiter/waitress’ is now ‘wait-thing’ (or w/e word’s hip this week)
      ‘blackboard’ is now ‘whiteboard’
      ‘chairman’ is now ‘chair’ (or ‘table’ – I forget)

      There are a thousand more examples – all idiotic.

      •  Negro -> Colored -> of color, Black, African-American.
        cripple/infirm -> disabled/handicapped -> differently abled

        Most importantly, progressive -> liberal -> progressive, in the span of a hundred years

  • Chimp Master Rules

    Wetback, beaner and greaser are out because they’re impolitic.   Illegal is now also wrong.  If these specimens (how’s that?) would trudge back to wherever they came from, we’d let the n-words pick our crops and all would be white with the world.  I mean right with the world.

  • MekongDelta69

    2 + 2 = 5.

    Anyone on here who disagrees with me is going to make me feel mighty “uncomfortable.” If that happens, then I’m going to do what any red-blooded straight, white male American citizen would do – I’m going to dig up Johnny Cochran and we’ll sue you for violating my ‘human rights.’

    And on a side-note… I don’t watch O’Reilly very much, but I happened to catch his show maybe a month or so ago and he happened to have some affirmative action (possibly illegal alien) college “Latina/Hispandex” radical (with an IQ in the low double digits) on the show, and he completely destroyed her. She sounded like Ralph Kramden when Alice use to catch him doing something wrong on the Honeymooners. “Hummina, hummina, hummina”

  • Sarge

    The illegals are fighting a battle that they and their anarchist, open-borders enablers have already won. 

  • Rustlejimmies

    Hey Elias Llivicura!  Illegal immigrants are a net drain on the economy, job pool, and infrastructure of MY country.  

    That makes me feel like really bad inside.

  • ncpride

    It’s totally eerie….. Thomas Chittum predicted this would happen in his book Civil War 2, which I read over the weekend. He wrote that book 17 years ago. The only problem I had with the book is that he gives blacks way too much credit thinking they can accomplish and maintain any kind of society seperate from Whites. At the rate they kill each other off NOW…?? Nah. I just don’t see it.

    • Awesome book, everyone should read it.

      He gives too much credit to the blacks and browns. He thinks black and hispanic militias will raid US military bases and use heavy weapons against the White militias. They might get a few mortars, but I can’t see the Latin Kings driving around in tanks.

      3rd world gangbangers vs. White patriots and veterans? That’ll be a short war…

      • ncpride

        I actually got the link from one of your posts for the book. Thanks for that, by the way. I had been wanting to read it for a long while. I really don’t want to see all that come to pass, but at the rate things are going in this country it IS a very real possibility and not to be discarded as ‘fear mongering’ or paranoia.

    • MissBonnie123

      I read that book too. I think the book was very informative.

      One thing I didn’t like is he seemed to have some sympathy for the Mexican invaders. He stated that if we had our land taken away from us, wouldn’t we fight to take it back?

      My answer is that A)No one alive today was alive back then—Mexican or White B)Many of us Whites today do see our land being taken away from us and we have the right to fight back today and C)The reason that they supposedly want “their” land back is because they love the infrastructure that Whites created, which they benefit from immensely, and which they are unable to create in their own country.

  • Aw, poor little brown folks. Would they be more comfortable if we went back to calling them beaners, taco benders and  wet backs?

  • I like the term criminal aliens.

    Maybe they might feel more comfortable in Mexico.

  • Si no quiere ser llamado ilegal, no entrar en los Estados Unidos ilegalmente.

  • No problem, let’s us the word criminal instead.

  • KenelmDigby

    An illegal immigrant complaining that the plain English legalistic description of his actual fact and status makes him feel ‘uncomfortable’ should be treated with the same contempt as a man caught in the act of house-breaking complaining that being charged as a ‘burglar’ makes him feel uncomfortable.

  • rightrightright

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq_lhlIn1e0&feature=player_embedded
    Then he should have stayed comfortably at home instead of forcing his way into the civilised world and making civilised people feel uncomfortable.  

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    “By saying illegal, they’re assuming that we broke a criminal law,”

    By their twisted logic, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s death is a joke.  He had NO right to stop “the undocumented” from coming here to collect Free White Money and mooch off of American taxpayers.

    Besides, who gives at rat’s *** what these illegal colonists prefer, they are destroying this nation. Not one of these creatures belongs in the U.S.

    “A small group of immigrants gathered in Woodbury Monday to protest the use of the word “illegal” to describe those who have entered the United States without documentation  illegally.”

    That’s more like it. 

    Bon

  • Since when does the ACLU and Democrates care about what is right for America? I still say that I have the fix. Not only me but from all the posts that I read, the majority of America has the fix.  yet we don’t use the “FIX”. For those of you scratching your head,it’s so simple yet so out of reach! Congress and the House won’t do anything about the problem. Here’s the “FIX”. We need to “FIX” both areas that enable the problem! We need to simply elect people in there with the backbone to stand up for America and Americans! Unfortunately,we can’t vote outside our districts and the ones that need to go,are the ones busy giving away what ever  they can to stay in office. Of course giving ALL they can, ensures they stay in office. We have to hold their feet to the fire. THEY seem to have forgotten that THEY work for US. That’s what you get with career politicians. THEY feel entitled,and we do nothing about it. I think one of the greatest things that has happened to America lately is the TEA-PARTY. Not only because it’s a genuine grass roots effort,but because they are actually trying to pull AMERICA back from the edge of the cliff that we are standing on!! This country was founded on Judao-Christian values, and so-called progressives are doing their best to turn our country away from GOD. Don’t get me wrong,I am not a bible-thumper. Do you think it’s a by chance our country has started to go down hill ever since we as a country,have tried to take GOD out of everything. But our “PROGRESS half think,no let me rephrase that, our progressive minority are trying to run roughshod over the majority of Americans. How many times have you heard “Progressives” say,’WE” shouldn’t offend anyone. What about the majority of US who are offended by giving in,to a small minority. Just like this story says,THEY are offended by being called what they are,”illegal”. All I can say is that the “TRUTH HURTS”. AMERICA,please stand up for YOUR rights.if WE don’t do it soon,WE may not have another chance too!!

  •  When do we start marching them south to the border with the barrels of our guns?

  • Whirlwinder

    Illegal aliens are here illegally. The truth and the facts speak for themselves. The Mexican invasion is like the Islamic invasion, except that Islam wants to dominate the country and replace the Constitution and our rule of law with shariah law. The Mexican invasion stops short of those goals but they still shread the rule of law by being here illegally and draining the economy by sending remittances home to Mexico. Our immigration system needs a fix from top to bottom and the illegal alien situation is not the largest problem but is a very big problem.

  • mobilebay

    Illegals should be happy with a lot of our elected idiots who refer to them as “New Americans.” They seem to think more of the lawbreakers who are out to drain our country than they do of loyal, legal, taxpaying, voting Americans. When did we get to be the enemy?

  • RisingReich

     ohhh.  Be very careful.  You’re awfully close to revealing the truth  there.

  • WhiteGuyInJapan

     http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/18/world/americas/18mexico.html?pagewanted=all

    Older article, but you get the idea.  Other reports describe how Mexican authorities have gun towers along the border and snipers are given free reign to do their job.

    Anyway, an interesting piece from the above article:

    “This society [Mexico] does not see migrants as human beings, it sees them as
    criminals,” said Lucía del Carmen Bermúdez, coordinator for a government
    migration agency called Grupo Beta. “The majority of the attacks
    against migrants are not committed by authorities, although there is
    still a big problem with corruption in Mexico. Most violence against
    migrants comes from civilians.”

  • crystal evans

    It does not matter because not all Latino immigrants can speak Spanish. Many are ethnic Indians from Southern Mexico that speak their own tribal languages.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Have you ever been to California?  Illegal aliens have destroyed the schools, cities and towns and quality of life in California and are spreading like cockroaches to every area of the U.S.  

    I may be on the leading edge here in California but it WILL come your way eventually.

    Read Bobby’s post above.  In 50 years, my state has been ruined by unfettered, high-birthrate illegal immigrants — with more pouring and 400,000 given amnesty and, soon, drivers licenses, in the past week alone.

    Welfare has become a way of life for many of them into the third and fourth generation –either that or cash-based, low paying jobs where they can still collect “entitlement” benefits from the government.

    IOW:  illegal aliens are only doing what the government allows them to do.

    Wow, one might get the impression that there is was a War on Whites going on conducted by the American government.  Couldn’t be the case could it??

    Here are a few fun facts about how the new “vibrant” colonists have enriched us our once beautiful state, and soon, country:

    *California houses an estimated 25% of all of the country’s illegal immigrants.  the tax paid by one legal citizen is equivalent to the taxes paid by nearly ten illegal immigrants in any given industry. 

    *Nearly 1 million undocumented immigrants live and work openly in California with little or no fear of deportation 
     
    *$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. 

    $22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
    *$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. 

     *$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary & secondary education for children here illegally and [usually] cannot speak a word of English!

    *$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.(or as Terry Anderson says: JACKPOT babies!)

    *$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. 7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.8. 

    *$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & socialservices by the American taxpayers.

    The United States should do what Oklahoma does: Set a fee of 1 percent (to be credited against its income tax) for all remittances wired from that state to anywhere in the world. If implemented on a national level, that fee would recapture almost a quarter-billion dollars a year to help with our deficits, and it would cost virtually nothing to any American voter.Bon

  • Pat Kittle

    So the illegally illegal illegals illegally want to make it illegal to call the illegally illegal illegals illegal, do they?