Africa as Muse, Not Mess

Christian Science Monitor, August 9, 2012

During a two-week tour of AfricaSecretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has raised an intriguing idea, one that breaks a tired stereotype. Africa, she asserted in a speech Wednesday in Cape Town, has solutions for some of the world’s problems.

The continent certainly has enough problems—bad governance, civil war, and drought, to name only three. And solving any one of them might become a model for other nations. Africa, for example, has found exemplary ways to reduce child deaths.


With steady if uneven progress toward stable democracies, Africans are showing ways to achieve peaceful turnovers of power, such as in Ghana last month. Along its Arab north, TunisiaEgypt, and Libya have led the Arab Spring. And with the end of Muammar Qaddafi’s rule in Libya, Africa no longer has someone using oil wealth to try to control the future of sub-Saharan Africa.


For Mrs. Clinton, however, South Africa is seen as the best hope for Africa. Per capita, South Africa’s wealth exceeds that of China or India. Last year, the mineral-rich nation, now 18 years free of white rule, was inducted last year into the global club of large, non-Western economies called BRICS (BrazilRussia, India, China, South Africa).

Clinton praises South Africa for voluntarily giving up nuclear weapons, for its civil-society activism, and for helping other African nations with security, agriculture, and minerals. {snip}

Most of all she cites it as role model: “In South Africa, you achieved something that few countries have ever done. You proved that it doesn’t take an all-out civil war to bridge the divide between people who grew up learning to hate one another. You showed that the rights of minorities can be protected even in places where the majority spent decades and decades living in oppression. You reminded the world that the way forward is not revenge, but truth and reconciliation.”


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  • JohnEngelman

    Statements like this are more or less required of foreign dignitaries during state visits. 

    • Sherman_McCoy

      And remember, the root of dignitary is dignity.  Oops.

  • NYB

     “the divide between people who grew up learning to hate one another”

    Speaking from experience as one who was in South Africa during apartheid, Clinton is making up lies.

    During apartheid, blacks and whites knew their place.  Whites did not grow up “learning to hate” blacks, rather they learned peaceful coexistance with blacks.   They both needed each other, and apartheid set the rules.

    Now, as then, South African whites grow up learning to be wary and cautious of blacks.

  • I wonder why people think that Hillary Clinton would have been better than Barack Obama.

    If Hillary Clinton was President right now, Democrats would be wondering what things would have been like and how good they would be if they only nominated Obama.

  • Didn’t Africa allegedly give us ‘It takes a village to raise a child’? (Keep in mind, you raise livestock and you rear children). The phrase hasn’t done much for Africa or blacks in America.

    Libya and Egypt are considered successes and currently under black rule, “South Africa is seen as the best hope for Africa. Per capita, South Africa’s wealth exceeds that of China or India”?

    Is that South African generating wealth through productivity or is this simply the estimated value of the white built infrastructure and economy? 

    My advice regarding Africa. Erect a fence around the continent and put up signs reading, “ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK”.

  • haroldcrews

    The South African nuclear weapons program was ended during the last years of Apartheid for fear of what the ANC would do with the nukes and the technology. 

  • ” Last year, the mineral-rich nation, now 18 years free of white rule. . .”

    Oh yes now that the noble africans are free from their evil white oppressors, South Africa is ready to become the PER CAPITA global leader in rape, murder, and robbery! 

  • Boereseun

    “In South Africa, you achieved something that few countries have ever done. You proved that it doesn’t take an all-out civil war to bridge the divide between people who grew up learning to hate one another. You showed that the rights of minorities can be protected even in places where the majority spent decades and decades living in oppression. You reminded the world that the way forward is not revenge, but truth and reconciliation.”

    That is the biggest lie ever said and she knows it. This is truly the ” Wicked Witch of the West”. In all her glory.

    Did she stop by those white informal settlements around Pretoria? Nope. Did she ask about the over 3000 and counting farm murders of white farmers and their families? Nope. Perhaps she asked about the vicious crime rate in South Africa? Oh, nope again. Did she question the treatment of whites under affirmative action, black economic empowerment and university quotas that operate against the minority here in South Africa? Nope. Or the destruction of former Afrikaans schools and universities by the ANC? Nope. Did she mention that the Boeremag sat for 10 years in a trial that went nowhere until now. Nelson Mandela’s Rivonia trial was over in under two years, with over 200 counts of sabotage and treason against him and his co-accused; and yet it took 10 years with only 4 counts against the Boeremag and not one International Organisation bats an eyelid about how they were treated and are found guilty for merely wanting a state for the Afrikaner. Nope. She does nothing to show the plight of the white African, nothing. She is pure evil.

    Like Zille, she will dance with the Africans like a white voodoo queen. She cares nothing about human suffering. This reminds me of all the state dignitaries visiting Hitler in the 1930ties and saying how wonderful a time they had.

    There’s a name for women like this. Amren of course won’t allow it but if any one woman around the entire world is the epitome of this word, it is her. Yes, it starts with a ‘B’.

    • refocus

       Ok, you guys helped defeat Hitler. 

      What do you have now?

    • loyalwhitebriton

      Boereseun, I’ll take my chances with the moderator: Hilary Clinton is an ugly-as-sin, hairy-arm-pitted, uber-feminist, Bitch.
      (if the “B” word is omitted, or appears as something else, then I’ve been moderated)

      • Boereseun

        There’s also the ‘C’ word to be thought of. Don’t be stingy now ya hear?!

        On the moderation, we shall have to wait and see. I’m hoping he looks the other way…

    • loyalwhitebriton

      OOPS! It appears my original reply to your comment has been removed. Hey Ho, I should have known not to use derogatory superlatives on a respectable site like Amren. Anyway, I agree with the general gist of your comment. Take it easy, brother 😉

      • IstvanIN

         I wrote “She is (another word for wicked that begins with an “e”) and that comment was removed.

    • Anyone who can look at post-White South Africa and call it a success is either a liar or delusional. I believe the Clintons are both.

    • Boereseun, I think Clinton forgot where she was. When she mentioned about “protecting the rights of minorities”, all she saw was a sea of Bantu faces around her. To her, “minority” means Bantu. Maybe she thought she was in South Bronx, NOT South Africa – where Caucasians are the minority, of course.

      What IS it with Hillary Clinton espousing African proverbs, such as “It takes a village to raise a child”,and thinking that continent holds the solution to the world’s problems?  That’s garbage.

      While on the subject of her lies, she actually used to tell people that she was named Hillary after Sir Edmund Hillary, who was the first man to climb Mount Everest.

      Hillary Clinton was born in 1946. Edmund Hillary climbed Mount Everest in 1953. Go figure.

  •  ”Hilary Clinton has asserted in a speech that Africa has solutions for some of the world’s problems. ”

    Unreal, it’s bordering on the supernatural. I stopped reading the article after that, there is so much BS you can take.

  • Why is Africa poor ? ( Answer, because it’s full of Africans )

    ”Just as American blacks blame whites for their failures, Africans deny responsibility for the misery they bring on themselves.

    Black Africa is the poorest part of the world by far. It is in Africa that we find countries like Zaire, Ethiopia, Chad, and the Sudan, where gross national product per person is less than $200 a year.

    The 41 nations of sub-Saharan Africa produce no more wealth than the tiny country of Belgium,
    which has only one forty-fifth as many people. Of all of the region’s economic production, white-run South Africa accounts for three quarters.Numbers like these mean that Africans live in misery so desperate that Americans can scarcely imagine it.

    Every year, thousands of Africans die of starvation. In bad years, hundreds of thousands starve. Even in tropical parts of Africa untouched by famine, as many as one third of all children die before the age of five.

    One in a hundred births kills the mother. Malaria, sleeping sickness, hepatitis, leprosy, and AIDS are rampant.

    Nevertheless, the population of Africa grows faster than that of any other region of the world. The total number of children, grand children, and great-grand children that the average American woman will have is 14.

    The equivalent figure for the average African woman is 258! Despite the ravages of disease, starvation, and inter-tribal warfare, Africa’s population increases by more than three percent a year. At that rate, populations can double in 20 years. ”

    You can read the rest of the article here

    • “Why is Africa poor ? ( Answer, because it’s full of Africans )”

      That should read black Africans. Whites in Africa did very well when they had the chance.

      • Yes, you are correct, the only successful people in Africa were the Dutch Boers, French and British.

        Blacks are non creative, dysfunctional and parasitical in nature.

        • Don’t forget the predominantly Arab/Muslim North Africa stretching from Egypt on the east, to the Saharan Arab Republic (f/k/a “Spanish Sahara” on old globes) to the west. Every one of these nations has port cities on the Mediterranean Sea, and so engage in commerce, given their proximity to Europe and Asia.

          Compare that to Bantu Africa, the term I use to describe those nations and territories south of Algeria (except Mauritania, which is predominantly Arab). Many of them are landlocked, and don’t even have many ports on the rivers. Those that do have ports on the Atlantic and Indian Oceans, had them built by the colonial powers, NOT the Bantu natives. 

    • Africa is a continent of victims. All Africans were destroyed by those colonialist who came and built roads and hospitals and schools and the like.

  • ” The morality and abstract thinking of Africans, the logic of black people explained.”

  • Laura White

    The New York Times published an absolutely stomach-turningly disgusting article on its front page today entitled “Male Couples Feel Pressure To Fill Cradles”

  • Remember, this is the woman who used to talk to Elenore Roosevelt while she was living in the white house 

    • The__Bobster

      Nazi Botoxi speaks to the dead now.

  • IstvanIN

    She is evil.

  • jeffaral

    This woman is evil incarnate!

  • Laager

    The ex ANCYL Pres is in the second division compared to the incumbent ANC Pres and President of the nation.
    Three years ago he promised to create 500,000 jobs.
    Nothing happened. Unemployment actually increased.

    Two years ago he followed up with another promise saying that the ANC will create 4,000,000 jobs.
    You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out where those jobs are coming from.
    South Africa has 4 million white people left ………………………. mmmmmmmm!

    Could the day of action be when Mandela finally dies and the ANC can drop all pretenses at carrying out Madiba’s multi-culti-rainbow-nation dream?

    The crooked old terrorist turned 94 this year.
    Not too long to wait now. 

    • ” The crooked old terrorist turned 94 this year. ”

      You mean ” The Risen Christ ” according to the lame stream media.

      • I am with you on this. He was once my hero but his silence on the issues in our country have shown him to have feet of clay.

  • MrGJG

     Thanks for that. Very informative and not the least bit surprising.

  • That’s the only thing they’re good at, breeding.

  • SLCain

    South Africa is only a “rich” country because of the wealth built up during the years of white rule.  Now that it is a black country, it will slide into poverty, ignorance, and barbarism, as is indeed now happening.

    That Madame Secretary could utter such an idiotic thing only shows how stupid she is – just another worshipper in the cult of blackness.  Blacks really have nothing – and I mean nothing – to teach anybody about anthing.

    It takes a village to raise a child?  Nonsense.  How well as that worked out?  For Africa or anyone else?

    Given Africa’s recent history with murderous voo-doo child armies, a better slogan would be:

    It takes a child to raze a village.

  • Solutions to the world’s problems? Ha ha ha! Africa is the world’s problem and the white race is the solution.

  • Boereseun

    Thank you, I agree with these figures. Didn’t see Dom’s response till now so I wasn’t able to respond.

    Funny how more were killed after Nelson Mandela’s release than all the years of Apartheid combined. We of course know it was IFP and the ANC but of course the ever invisible ‘Third Force” has always been blamed.

  • haroldcrews

    There are many many millionaires in Nigeria judging by the emails I receive.

  • IstvanIN

    She doesn’t dress properly for a women in her position (what is with all the Walmart polyester slacks) and now dirty dancing with an African woman.  What a disgrace.

    • Carney3

      I’m pretty hardline on dress.  I think the only proper outfit for a white collar professional woman is a skirt suit or pantsuit, WITH makeup, hosiery and proper dress shoes.  And with a preference for the skirt suit.  But for some women, especially of a certain age, a pant suit just works better.  Femininity can be preserved, and an overly severe look avoided, by permitting colors (pastels etc) that are too much on a skirt suit.

  • IstvanIN

    To the moderator:  there is “E” in the world and there are “E” people.  There are also people who commit “E”, although they may not be “E” at heart or even know they are committing “E”.  So what makes the “E” word so awful?

    • Yes, there is evil.

      But there are words that are bridges too far if your goal is civilized discussion.

      • IstvanIN

         So, here, one can not refer to a politician as evil?  Fair enough, I suppose.

        • No, we can’t.  Unless his or her last name begins with a letter somewhere between A and Z, has a pulse, a positive number IQ, etc.

          Seriously, “evil” has a lot of connotations.  Use it if you must, but remember it’s a heavy accusation.

          • IstvanIN

            Thank you for your responses.

            So it isn’t a hard and fast rule?  That makes things a bit more complicated. 

            From my point of view someone who commits atrocities against his own people, advocates for atrocities against his own people, or simply promotes policies that result in atrocities against his own people, is evil.  I am, of course, referring to those who are intelligent enough to understand the end result of the policies they promote yet look the other way or argue how those policies are, in fact, good when they clearly are not.  Not all evil people are quite as in your face as Stalin.

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    “During a two-week tour of Africa, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has raised an intriguing idea, one that breaks a tired stereotype. Africa, …, has solutions for some of the world’s problems.”

    Aids, Malaria, yellow fever, dengue fever, starvation, and poverty are all good solutions on how to destroy white countries.


  • Hiliary is starting to look more and more like  Chairman Mao everyday.

  • If they did so well just 18 yrs after white rule, they must have really sky-rocketed to the heights of civilization before whites ever arrived and started holding them back.

    Oh that’s right, they were living in mud huts, bathing in cow urine, worshipping mounds of elephant dung, hunting and gathering. I forgot.

  • godzillabloggs

    If she tries really hard she might be able to convince her friend Netanyahu that  deporting Sudanese from Israel is a mistake that will deprive his country of very beneficial influences.

  • s shadow

    “is either a liar or delusional. I believe the Clintons are both”

    I don’t think there is any chance that Hillary is ignorant or delusional of the atrocities going on inS.A.  If we know of these things such as drowning a young boy in near boiling water after raping his mother with an accomplice standing on her head, then she knows it as well.  She simply has unquestioning servitude to cultural marxism.  Orwellian dishonesty and corrupted logic are standard fare in dealing with these things.  That is why perfect control of the major media is required.  It would be too easy to tear her to shreds if freedom of expression was allowed.  Fox, the controlled opposition, is just that, controlled..

  • Sheila Dinehart

    A transferance of power without violence in South Africa?

    Ha, very clever…

    “Living in interesting times”

  • Boereseun

    Found a rather interesting write up on South African murder rates comparing past and present. Don’t agree with all of it but page 11 has what I think you are looking for.

    Enjoy the read. 

  • Detroit_WASP

    Mrs. Clinton really seems to like dirty dancing with large African women.

  • 70 % of black children don’t have fathers in America.

  • NM156

    She’s been boozin’ it up all over the world in the past year or so too. Drunk talk would explain this behavior…

  • And we thank her for blowing smoke up our collective asses. Political correctness gone insane. She was here and saw what was going on and still panders to the Black majority who still milks the White minority for almost the entire cost of running the country.

    • Laager

      And she says absolutely nothing about the AA, BEE and other discriminatory legislation in the workplace against the 9% white minority which is designed to protect the 80% black majority.

      If ever there was an admission of failure this is it.
      An African solution for an African “problem” – and gullible Hilary falls for it.
      God Bless America.

      • It shocks me that the rest of the world has to play this ::”yes you poor Africans are a victim”:: game. It is because the world is rolling over like it is that Africa is in the condition it is in. Its time Africa was told to grow a pair and stop bleating.

  • In africa if anyone works it is usually the women. But it seems out brethren here in SA are so lazy that even the stealing of government funds and corruption is too much work so that too is now being left to the women. You got to be here to believe it.

  • What is happening here is what our brothers are best at, RAPE, so that is the political system in place.

  • They tried that have you ever heard of Liberia. Perhaps, but its difficult to tell, the most violent country in Africa.

  • You should look up “Ineptocracy” and the South African story will unfold.

  • Sir the question has been asked and crime figures in SA are not allowed to be disclosed. But believe me it will make your head spin. A figure I can give you just to give a little perspective is that 74 children are raped in SA per day. This is not big news here. I NEED A BOAT!