Tinley Park Brawl Between White Supremacists, ‘Anti-Racists’

Mike Flannery, My Fox Chicago, May 20, 2012

It now appears that a vicious brawl at a south suburban restaurant on Saturday involved hammer-wielding “anti-fascists” attacking a group of self-professed “white nationalists.”

The attack occurred at 12:45 p.m. Saturday, according to Tinley Park police. Ten were injured, with three taken to local hospitals. Among innocent bystanders terrified by the bizarre explosion of violence were several dozen women there for a wedding shower.

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After the attack, several injured white supremacists fled immediately, declining medical treatment. Tinley Park Police said they detained five of the suspected attackers, who apparently call themselves members of the “South Side Chicago Anti-Racist Action.” {snip}

The white supremacists had apparently posted on one or more of their websites that they planned to have lunch at the Ashford House restaurant, 7959 W. 159th St, Tinley Park. Their internet postings refer to a “5th Annual White Nationalist Economic Summit.” {snip}

The “anti-fascists” boasted of the violent attack on their own website, promising more to come. The first of four key unity principles cited on the website states: “Whenever fascists are active or organizing in public, we’re there. We don’t believe in ignoring them or staying away from them. Never let the Nazis have the street.”

A skinhead using the name Brandon Spiller posted several messages after the attack. He said doctors used eight surgical staples to close a wound inflicted on him. He complained, “I had my gun in my car, but couldn’t get to it due to Illinois law. If I was able to CCW (concealed carry of a weapon) they would have been stopped and I wouldn’t be typing this from a hospital.”

One witness told Fox Chicago News that, just before the brawl, the attackers gathered in a lot near the restaurant. They were dressed entirely in black, wearing hoodies and bandannas to conceal their identity. He said the attackers were all white, including a mix of young men and women who may have been in their 20s. He said they loudly chanted political slogans. Then, armed with baseball bats, nunchuks and hammers, they ran screaming through the restaurant’s front door.

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  • Natassia

    This was no brawl. A group of white nationalists or supremacists peacefully dining in a restaurant was brutally attacked by a group of leftist whites.

  • whiteuncleruckus

    those left wing liberals are nothing but race traitors, plain and simple. in my opinion, traitors and worse than the enemy itself.

    • White people beating up other White people over racial issues, sounds sick doesn’t it.

      Pro-Whites vs Anti-racists, shouldn’t it be Pr0-Whites vs Anti-Whites, I suppose White/racist it’s all the same.

    • sbuffalonative

      They’re the new American Brown Shirts only now dressed in black and covering their faces.

      The anti-Nazis can’t see they’ve become Nazis.

      On a side note: I believe we have anti-Klan laws that prohibit people at public events covering their faces. The ‘progressive’-left has been using this ‘black bloc’ technique for years (as they did with Mr. Taylor) and yet no police agency ever seems to hold them accountable. Again, we see selective enforcement.

      If you’re ever surrounded by these people, just start pulling off their masks. What they fear is being identified.

      BLACK BLOC:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bloc

      •  I wouldn’t be surprised if the leader(s) of these “anti-Fascist” groups were Jewish.  They specialize in dividing whites and attacking whites whenever they sense growing white solidarity.

        • blight14

           Well stated Mark….alas, that speech isn’t allowed here…..

        • Spartan24708

          And they don’t realize the minorities hate them as much or more than other White people! 

          • As a Jewish American myself. Even if some minorities hate us Jews. It pales in comparison to the manner in which white christian gentiles and moslems hate us and have hated us for centuries. Jews have been systematically persecuted in white Europe and the western world and of course in the islamic middle east. Now, granted there may be a few deluded Jews stupid enough to join the white goyim conservative cause, but thankfully they are the microscopic minority ( or what you’d call as race traitors). The vast majority of race-conscious Jews and Zionists champion the leftist cause whereby we try and eliminate the treat from our real enemies.

          • TOMGILLILANatGMAIL

             Jews don’t consider themselves to be white people.

        • radical7

          Your comment is very anti-semetic

          • TOMGILLILANatGMAIL

             Maybe Mark Green knows something that you don’t. Green being a Jewish name and all.

      • whiteuncleruckus

        and the real tragedy is that the minorities they are fighting for dont give a crap about them. they are truely some of the most misguided people in this country.

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        sbuffalonative wrote, in response to whiteuncleruckus:
        They’re the new American Brown Shirts only now dressed in black and covering their faces.
        The anti-Nazis can’t see they’ve become Nazis.

    • splitsing

       They are worse!  The third-worlder folks don’t know any better!

  • Charge them with hate crimes.  Hold them in county jail until trial.  Send them to prison.  Then see how they feel about white nationalism.  

    • vladdy1

      Yes. And to do this, we have to push for anti-masking laws, like another poster on this site has suggested. Besides attacking in large groups, they are also tipping the scales in their favor (bullies always do, preferring that to a fair fight) by hiding their faces.

      Makes you wonder whose little storm troopers these are, doesn’t it? Even the young left surely isn’t silly enough to think that the crocodile will not eat them, as well. They are standing with several groups (blacks, muslims, radical hispanics, and communists) that will see them as white males in the end. Foolish.

      • I think we’ll see if they’re  professional agitators or they’re just garden variety dumb asses if their bail is posted or someone ponies up defense funds.  

        I have never been in prison nor do I ever plan on going, but from what I have read and heard from others about prison culture  is that races stick together.  I’m sure whites wont be willing to lend a helping hand when Shauntavious and D’auvante are auctioning them off  as sex slaves for a couple packs of smokes.  It would be comical to watch their first encounter with a black inmate in jail or prison.

        Black man: Hey white boy, you’re my new bitch
        Anti Racist: No, no..you got it all wrong, I’m an anti racist.  I’m with you! 

        The crimes they are being charged with are serious.  Mob Action carries a maximum penalty of 50 years.  We’ll see how far the courts take it.  Lets hope they take a no nonsense approach and don’t offer a plea deal.  

        • blight14

           The fellows in prison with shaved heads and lots of nifty tattoos will surely welcome them ‘properly’……and I hope its indeed a welcoming they won’t forget…..or remember!

        • Zorro

          Too bad there is no 50 year Prison terms for those blacks that engaged in anti-White Flash Mob attacks.

    • KingKenton

      Sorry, but I disagree. I don’t think they should be charged with a “hate-crime” because I don’t believe in the legitimacy of such a precept. As White Nationalists we constantly deride “hate-crime” laws as being antithetical to our basic ideas of jurisprudence. You can’t on the one hand condem “hate-crime” laws and in the next breath embrace them.

      • Point taken…you’re right, sir!

      • Spartan24708

        Hate crime laws violate the constitution plus they are not used equally. I am surprised that someone hasn’t challenged the constitutionality of these ridiculous laws in court. 

        • Zorro

          What Constitution? We gave that away at a yard sale, years ago. Do you want it back? Then vote for Ron Paul in your State’s upcoming Primary Election.

    • Lou

       Yes, a few weeks in the pokie will do wonders on whites that hate their own color of skin..

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    the problem i see here with whites is cowardice. he was too afraid of the judicial system to simply break the law and carry his piece into the restaurant. fear is fear no matter what the person is afraid of. i see over and over on the postings here white people cowardly claiming they can’t defend themselves because the law says this or the law says that. thats why mobs of blacks and others are giving whites beat down coast to coast. very sad. like black people worry over whether to get a concealed gun permit or fill out a form to buy a gun  and have a waiting period or take a frigging class on handgun safety and on and on no woner they laugh at us and think we are a bunch of nerds or dorks.

    • That’s one way of looking at it and I respect what you’re saying, but I disagree.  One place I would not want to spend a lot of time is Cook Country jail as a pro-White or White Nationalist.  

      We are law abiding people even if the laws aren’t in our favor—we should respect them.  Blacks don’t care.  It shows their character.  In the short term it sucks to see people we sympathize  with being hurt.  In the long term, it helps our cause.  If monkey pooh starts to fly and it’s being thrown by traitors…we need our powder dry.  It won’t be if we all start jumping too soon.

      Think of the headline and backlash, “Nazi kills NATO protesters in violent shootout”.   It’s a fine line to walk though.  If we organize, and are being sought out then attacked, when do we fight back? 

    • anmpr1

      Not fair.  When eating dinner one does not expect to be attacked by a mob, and things happen so quickly who can say what could have happened otherwise?  One thing is for sure, in Rahm Emannuel’s Chicago, do you think any white nationalist is safe in the local jail?  Especially on a firearms charge against a leftist group?  And then likely face 10 years in the state house?  It’s easy to be tough in front of a computer.  Not so easy when reality sets in.

      It is saner to move away from these places, and let liberal racialism turn the place into another Mogadishu.  Move to places where one can “stand your ground.”  But even in Florida, liberals are attacking people like Zimmerman who use a gun to defend themselves.

      • StivD

        I’ve been in fights of this nature and knew it was coming. They let their guard down a little and didn’t see what was coming. I don’t want to judge them either from this standpoint. 

        Most of us aren’t quite in a Mad Max mentality yet. 

      • ATBOTL

        You can’t say “not fair” after you got your rear kicked.  One must always expect to be attacked.  Even while eating dinner at a restaurant, hence the old adage to always take a seat facing the entrance.  

        White nationalists in America need to be better organized.  In Europe, any nationalist meeting always has a security detail.  This has been practiced for decades there.  

        We have to understand that we are part of radical, subversive political movement that is under official state repression and act accordingly.  Get over this idea that American society is still like some big debating club where everyone is allowed to speak and there are rules.  

    • Lou

      Real whites follow the law even if they disagree with said laws…
      It is not cowardly to follow the law of the land, in fact it’s courageous, it’s what gives us morals and makes others lack them..
      Just because you don’t like the law, you can’t ignore it.. What you have to do is fight it and
      try to have the laws changed.. It’s what sets us apart from the third world countries.

    • There are other means of self-defense other than firearms. The Hells Angels carry very large crescent wrenches and hammers whenever they go into no firearm zones. Pepper spray, knives, collapsible batons, even a big heavy coffee mug can knock a man out. The White Nationalists, should  have been better prepared for self-defense. I live in a gun friendly state and I carry a pistols 99% of the time, but on rare occasions where I can’t carry, there will be OC spray, a knife or some type of striking device on my person.  But the most important factor in self-defense is awareness. The White Nationalists should have been prepared and even expected such an attack as a possibility.  If nothing else, post a discreet appearing look-out in the parking lot with a cell phone, who can alert the rest of  the group to an approaching threat. Sadly, this is the world we live in today. 

    • Zorro

      Didn’t the Supreme Court recently strike down Chicago’s anti-gun laws? So then, what’s the problem?

      • Yes it did.

        But this story is from Tinley Park (where Jeremiah Wright lives, incidentally), not Chicago proper.

        The problem is, Chicago is mucking around to make firearms ownership “legal” but practically impossible.  That was the problem with the way the lawyers for McDonald handled this — They should have gone for the jugular and not only asked SCOTUS for a declaration of unconstitutionality, but also a consent decree with the city, meaning that whatever the city’s firearms ordinances are, a member of the Federal judiciary would have to approve them.  The reason for the consent decree would have been to prevent these sorts of end runs and tricks to “comply” with SCOUTS without actually doing so.

        Another problem is that the judiciary doesn’t have a badge-and-gun enforcement mechanism of its own.  Federal law enforcement officials at this moment ultimately answer to the person of Barack H. Obama II.

  • B

    Well, at least now they know how to trap these fools. Next time the hunters will be captured by the game.

    • Mutant_Swarm

       You beat me to it.

    • Of course if the white pride people would set up a scenario in which they had a tactical advantage and got the best of these black clad cowards, Mo Dees would show up looking to sue them.

    • Even better post a meeting in some black hell hole and let the blacks take care of them for us.

    • sarah stein

       Capture them, dress them up in Confederate flag clothing, drop them off on Martin Luther King Blvd.

  • Francis Galton

    What is almost as bad as the crime itself is the probable reaction to it by brainwashed Whites (I couldn’t care less what other racial groups think of this).  I would bet anything that most Whites, upon hearing the story, will ultimately conclude that the White Nationalists were “asking for it,” even though they were guilty of nothing but Existing While Holding Unpopular Opinions.  For these Whites, some opinions are so damaging to society that ACTUAL crimes may be justifiably committed against those who hold said opinions. 

    I fear this society is flirting dangerously close to the rabbit hole where Stalin’s Great Purge and Mao’s Cultural Revolution reside, only now it’s Johnson’s Great Society, it’s King’s Civil Rights Revolution, and it’s Obama’s Change We Can Believe In.  Scary stuff…. 

  • I can’t believe that these “White Nationalists” were foolish enough to not only publicly announce where they were meeting for lunch, and when, but to go to said luncheon unarmed. Brandon Spiller’s post afterwards was beyond wimpy — if you think you need the gun to protect yourself in a particular situation, you carry it!

    And by the way, I find it hard to believe that “all” the attackers were White. On the South Side of Chicago? Come on, we weren’t born yesterday!

  • joewest666

    Ah those silly leftists.. winning hearts and minds..

    Funny how they only pull this nonsense in non-right to carry states.

     

    • This could turn out to be a geographical phenomenon.  I wonder if anti racist would pull this stunt in Texas or another pro-gun state…

      • Zorro

        Let’s see if ARA tries this in Arizona. I want to see Sheriff Joe take care of the problem.

    • Church_of_Jed

      Where are the video tapes?  If the restaurant wasn’t under surveillance, then they should be sued for creating a dangerous environment.

  • Can I be an anti-antiracist?

    • 1gravity

      As long as you adhere to proto neo realist dogma on alternate Wednesdays. See my website http://www.timbuktu.secret code.zzz.

    • ageofknowledge

      This is America. You’re supposed to be able to be whatever you want as long as you don’t violate any else’s rights.

      • Zorro

        True. In the America that you speak about, which has not existed for some time, that would be the case, as guaranteed under the Constitution and Bill of Rights. But alas, all that is gone now. If you would like it back, I recommend that you vote for Ron Paul in your State’s Primary Election.

    • Church_of_Jed

      Just embrace your White privilege, and you’re there.

  • Major

    “couldn’t get to it due to Illinois law.”

    A blatantly, unconstitutional anti second amendment law too. I cannot ever understand how any state can deny it’s citizens it’s constitutional rights and protections and not be sued by the Feds.

    Yet a state can be sued by the Feds for wanting to enforce Federal law…like AZ, SC and AL?

    It’s all very upside down and we need one BIG reset in this country.

  • Spartan24708

    I am not a huge fan of skinheads but they are entitled to their opinions without molestation as long as they are not openly advocating or committing violence. Their first mistake was announcing where they were planning on meeting for lunch,  and it’s hard to believe that they didn’t realize that websites like theirs and Amren too are monitored by leftists and the federal government and it was possible or even probable that they would be followed and attacked. Meeting places should be announced via word of mouth, email or text since it is not easy to vet someone via website even if the person has been contributing for years. 

  • The__Bobster

    They were dressed entirely in black, wearing hoodies and bandannas to conceal their identity.
    ____________

    Yet they say we’re the cowards who hide behind hoods and masks.

    • Spartan24708

      I’m surprised that a group of people with covered faces were allowed to enter a business without the hostess or cashier calling the police as soon as they filed in. Most municipalities do not allow anyone to go around with their identity concealed- ie covered with a bandanna or mask. 

      •  And why were those laws put into place?

        The answer is ironic, considering the goony birds we’re talking about in this story.

      • Zorro

        Does this rule apply to Muslim women, too?

        • Spartan24708

          Probably not. Although one can only hope that a brave person will be able to buck the lawsuits that would be bound to fly after denying entry to a fully covered Muslim woman.

  • Johnny Reb

    This was an embarassment to every white racialist.

    As incompetent as he was at it . . . Zimmerman showed all whites how to turn attacking feral beasts into good little negros. That’s a lesson these WNs need to learn next time they go out to lunch. They don’t need to be packing pistols . . . they just to be ready to defend themselves and not get ambushed like a bunch of silly schoolgirls.

     Apparently, even active WNs don’t seem to understand just how dangerous things have gotten for whites and especially white racialists.

    The atackers were not “liberals.”  These were hard-core communists or anarchists . . .  and most of the anarchists are really communists who are just too ignorant to know it.   Mentally, these people are no different than any group of black “youfs” who are flash-mobbing whites.

    • Church_of_Jed

      It’s an embarrassment that the WNs didn’t have a mole in the antifa and know ahead of time what was about to happen, and prepare.

  • jack ryan

    Always be prepared to defend with self defense weapons/techniques besides guns. Don’t rely exclusively on guns.

    Use tables and chairs – which apparently one White guy in the restaurant did use a chair to great effect.

    Also, if you are over 40, have a walking cane and fake a limp. I highly recommend the canes and canemaster.com

    The $12 metal Target T-ball bat is also a great self defense weapon – light enough for a one handed club, but can be used for two handed clubbing. Have the T-Ball bat in an athletic bag with a a ball and glove.

    If some police officer suggests that “you’re a little old to be playing T -Ball” answer that you instruct your 8 year old niece.

  • dukem1

    Nunchuks…they had skills..not like Napolean Dynamite …..
    Amazing.

    • ageofknowledge

      Geesh, I’m old enough to remember when they were still legal.

  • Does this qualify as a “hate crime”? Not a racial hate crime, but a hate crime against a historically persecuted *political* minority — white supremacists/nationalists….

    If Sodomites and Lesbians get special protection for being historically persecuted (and prosecuted), *sexual* minorities and Muslims for being *religious* minorities, what about *political* minorities???

    • IstvanIN

      Sometimes I wonder who is worse: the one’s obsessed with gays or the one’s obsessed with Asians.

      • Why are people “obsessed” if they refuse to disobey Jehovah’s Command?  God is the one who said homosexuality is wrong, not people.  Another thing worth noting is the fact that two people of the same sex cannot possibly breed.  Many people cannot breed neither but it is impossible, science manipulation included, for two people of the same sex to breed.  That alone should tell you it’s wrong.  Not to mention, what’s the point of having males and females if homosexuality is normal?

        Why are people “obsessed” just because they wish to be Free from Asians (culture, food, language, privilege, etc.)?

        I don’t understand why Americans must go against God and/or accept Foreigners and their Foreign Culture in order to not be “obsessed” to use your choice of word.

        It’s always one way.  Always.    Why is it only White People who are wrong but never no one else?  Why aren’t Asians “obsessed” when they seek betterment for only their own people?  Why does this apply to only White People?  Why aren’t Homosexuals “obsessed” because they aren’t heterosexual?

        • libertarian1234

          Your ” natural instinct” analagy is a good one.

          If we don’t consider religion, which I realize is very important to a lot of people, and consider just man’s imbeded traits, instincts and driving inner force to protect and perpetuate his species, then any preference that is in contradiction to those things is an anomaly that is naturally repulsive to people.  Following natural instincts has nothing to do with hate and everything to do with perpetuating the species. 

          To claim that it does not amounts to nothing more than a spin to accept things that our inner consciousness tells us is a danger to our continued existence.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

             Since I do not feel personally bound to follow any mythological being’s commands, I can see the purpose of everything form a more objective point of view.  Homosexual activity has been shown (long ago) to occur in crowded populations of lab rats.  The fact is that in any crowded population this occurs.  Why?  My view is that it is part of natural biology to control the population.

            Should homosexuals be allowed to marry?  Not in my opinion; But not because of the need to “protect marriage”; heterosexuals have messed up that institution very well all by themselves.  Marriage rites for them is simply allowing them to play house and re-enforce the unhealthy delusion in them that they are as “normal” as a “hetero” couple.  I have NO problem with civil unions, however.  If they want to commit and make it legal, it allows them to take care of one another legally and that is fine with me.  It also serves to keep them in a committed relationship and less likely to be “out there.”  Homosexuals don’t reproduce, they recruit.  So conversely, I don’t think they should be able to  adopt, or even impregnate themselves for the similar delusional reasons I already stated.  I also don’t think that the kids have the best examples of parenting to grow up in because of the lifestyles involved.

          • libertarian1234

            “Since I do not feel personally bound to follow any mythological being’s commands, I can see the purpose of everything form a more objective point of view.”

            I’m an agnostic and there’s nothing in my response that indicates any data based on religion, nor is there anything that is not objective.

            It’s difficult to know what you’re trying to say.

            But what you seem to be saying is that only you can give an unbiased opinion, because you aren’t tainted with any kind of religious convictions.  Isn’t that kind of foolish?

             “Homosexual activity has been shown (long ago) to occur in crowded populations of lab rats. The fact is that in any crowded population this occurs. Why? My view is that it is part of natural biology to control the population.”

            What you are referring to IS NOT true homosexuality.  The animals in question did NOT show a preference for the same sex.  Certain motions they went through were the result of over crowding, which has also been known to occur with bulls mounting others in crowded cattle trucks as an instinctive response to various stimuli much like what some dogs do to the legs of a person sitting down.

            All these bizarre, untrue instances have been referred to by advocates as proof homosexuality is present in the animal kingdom.  It is not.  Your theory of population control isn’t valid.  There’s so much disease, death and destruction among the animal population of all breeds no artificial means of population control is necessary.

            The animal kingdom has deeply rooted impulses to perpetuate its species and anything in opposition to that just doesn’t occur.  Have you ever seen two male birds building a nest together?

            In humans the anomaly occurs,  as do other mental disorders,  but it is naturally regarded as repulsive and disgusting by normal people who are responding to their inbred compulsion to perpetuate their own kind.

            It has absolutely nothing to do with hate.  It’s a perfectly natural response.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            I am not saying the ONLY I can give an objective opinion because I have no bias, but that those who are not so tainted, or have a “dog in the fight” tend to be more removed from the emotionalism that causes facts to be ignored and ideas rejected.  You don’t have to go out of your way to call me “foolish” unless that is your point.

            Your response seems rooted in the libertarian point of view which wants to see everything as separate and self-sustaining or standing alone on its own merits. 

            Libertarianism often seems to approach a religious affiliation, so I cannot grant that your argument is more objective than mine.  Your claim to agnosticism only seems to go as far as the existence of a supreme being.  You are practicing a religion because you are using its principles to argue your opinion.

            You make a good argument, but it is merely an opinion that simply gainsays my and others opinion.   If you want to prove something make references to studies that prove what I wrote was invalid.  Just saying it isn’t doesn’t make it so. 

            I like the bird nest reference, but I’d have to check around on that one.  I think I recall a documentary on some species that did see that occur.  I’ve many times seen dogs (and experienced) humping the legs of people standing up.  I’ve dealt with domestic animals (horses and chickens) and wild animals a great deal in my life.  I would disagree that mental health issues are restricted to humans alone.

            If you are truly being objective, homosexuality can be seen as part of the natural occurrences just as war and lemmings diving in the ocean to drown.  There are cultures where it is not looked down upon, but practiced as a cultural norm.  You seem to have a limited view of what can be termed natural, rather informed by a cultural religiosity regardless of your agnosticism.  That is not so unusual or unbiased and objective.

            If some of the words and acts of those naturally repulsed by homosexuality have nothing to do with hate, they sure do a good imitation of it, even going out of their way to disturb funerals to make their form of Christian hate known.  Then, there are the murders and killings ….

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          I really like you, I do, I do.  And I agree with much of what you say.  But I would like you to tell me specifically where in the New Testament Christians are told that they can be exclusive with regards to race and nationality?  One of the many problems for me is that Christianity shoots down white race realism at every turn, both scripture and its history.  I have never seen anyone make a good argument for it, and I mean scripture that backs it up,  but I have heard and read endless repetitions and interpretations of the NT that defeat white or any race or ethnic exclusiveness.  The OT is about Jews and sampling that is bogus in this question.

          As for the homosexual questions, look at my reply to libertarian1234 below.

          • Church_of_Jed

            The alternative to Christian Racism is Christian Genocide.  Those whom we are supposed to embrace in Jesus’ will exterminate us.  Is that what Jesus wants?

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            I guess I disagree that the alternative to Christian racism is  that all whites will be killed because they are Christians.  The murder of all Christians would include a majority who aren’t even white.

            I am not sure if you mean genocide by others calling themselves Christians or by non-Christians – or even alleged non-Christians.

            One could point out that such divisions between whites are normal as they are with all people of all races regardless, as humans fight one another for many reasons. We are a combative species.  Or it might be seen more specifically as the ongoing fight between fascists and socialists.  But the fact is that both were created inside the Christian context, and Christianity makes them both more volatile and dangerous.

            What Jesus wants, supposing that is or ought to be the concern of a white race realist, is not what you infer.  What the book of myths about him says includes nothing about preserving a race or culture, but it does say this; 

            Luke 12:49, “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!  12:51, Do you think I came to bring peace on earth?  No, I tell you, but division.  12:52, From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.  12:53, They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law, and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

            But if you mean that the myths call on Christians to “turn the cheek, and love those who harm you, even forgive those who will crucify you, then this is pretty hard to contradict.  The Jesus of the Bible tells followers that this world has nothing for them, that their aspirations are to be toward God and heaven, which they can get to if they follow his rules while they live on earth.  The trick looks pretty obvious to me.  But it is useless to anyone who wants to see their race or culture survive here on earth.  Therefore, I don’t think anything in Christianity has anything to do with the issue, and this suicidal approach to life on earth is contraindicated for white race realists.  What you or anyone thinks Jesus would want is irrelevant.

            The question is, would you fight for your own survival, or be “crucified?”  Will you fight for your race?  Do you need the permission of Jesus (or anyone) to fight or survive?

          • Thank You and I like you very very much too Sir!

            I don’t know how to answer your question.  There are people here who have or do have mates outside of their own race and I don’t understand it but what can I do about it?

            I don’t know The Bible, really, at all.  I’ve never read it ’cause quite frankly, I lose patience with all the weird names and places I cannot pronounce and if I can’t pronounce them, I can’t remember who’s who and where’s where.  So and so begat so and so.  I can’t keep up with it.

            I will look around and see if I can find something that relates to what you’re saying.  If and when I find it, I’ll find you, probably on another Article and let ya know.  I need to go through the Index and see if I can find anything that relates.  Give me a little time…

        • Church_of_Jed

          Whites are supposed to “evolve” to where they do all they can to encourage White gay marriage, which means fewer White babies, and White baby abortions, which means even few White babies.

          Haven’t you ever wondered why their isn’t a law against aborting black babies?  Seems like that would be a pretty good tactic- forcing White liberals to endorse anti abortion because pro abortion is racist, because it kills black babies.

          “As crazy as you think it is now, just wait, no, just blink, and when you are through blinking, you’ll see things are even crazier.  It’s happening that fast.”

          -Rev. Jed DeValleyism, “If you think Hell is bad, just wait till you see tomorrow,” 2008

          • Welfare is going to go away and stink bugs are destroying crops left and right.  Abortion might very well be the nice way out one day.

            I’m sorry.  Does that sound awful?

          • Church_of_Jed

            “We live under the Diversity Curse. Things that were once unthinkable for their awfulness are now commonplace. There are consequences to living under an evil dispensation. We find ourselves thinking thoughts that are inappropriate for a Whites Only society, but are inevitable and necessary during Diversity Rule.”

            -Rev. Jed DeValleyism, “Diversity leadership leads us to extinction as a race; that’s it’s purpose,” 2008

        • IstvanIN

          Blaming gays for our problems and holding Asians out as the OK group to take us over is what I meant.  That explained, as for the Bible, it behooves us to live as Jesus would have us live.  I love you types who pick and choose what to follow from the Jewish bible/Old Testament to justify hate towards a group that happened to be born with an anomaly, or defect if you prefer.  I am quite sure you do not follow every old Testament prohibition.  A small percentage of people will always be born homosexual until such time medical science can determine who in the womb will be born that way and aborts them.

          • I apologize.  I do get super sensitive sometimes.  From Congress on down, all ya hear is how we “need” asians ’cause there just aren’t any Intelligent Americans around.  It drives me absolutely nuts.  It’s so insulting, so insulting, I just can’t take it.  Same for hispanics.  They’re all just so “honest and hard-working” as if we’re all dishonest and lazy.  And then there’s the blacks…. 

            I don’t pick and choose The Bible.  I’m a Sinner and that’s all there is to that.

            homosexuals – No Sir.  There is no gay gene.  People are not born that way and I don’t hate them neither.  I’m probably the only one here that actually feels sorry for the gay community.  I do lose patience with them now because they went from just being gay to being extremely pushy much like the other groups who constantly demand special rights and privileges for themselves.

            I’m not against the Mentally Retarded nor the Mentally Ill.  There was a Jew who pushed a woman off the subway platform (NY) in front of a train and killed her and I wasn’t against him and yesterday, there was a black woman who stabbed and killed two tourists in NJ and I’m not against her neither.

            Here’s what I’m against:  The Closing of Mental Institutions and Freedom for the Ill.  Not every “criminal” is a criminal.  You can’t allow things like Schizophrenia to run loose with no supervision or forced Medication and expect Order at the same time.

    • vladdy1

      t’s good to explain that “white nationalist”  does not mean it’s a
      “supremacist” group. We have the right to a nation with our own culture, just as the “cherokee nation” does. If they’re not “supremacists” for supporting thei nation, why should we be called names?

  • libertarian1234

    A news update announced that they caught five of these white boys 4 miles from the restaurant.  Their bonds range from $175,000 to $250,000.  I think there will be more arrests since they caught five of them right away and are obtaining a lot of information about the entire group mostly from their own web sites.

    It appears as if most…if not all…of these people are white, and they consist of a few women also. 

    That their mission statement involves mostly anti-racism is really strange,  and it exemplifies how some people can be mentally conditioned  to take up the torch for a cause that really doesn’t affect them personally.  They’re Kool Aid drinkers who have been so thoroughly conditioned they have become fixated with a single purpose to the point of derangement.

    I’m pretty sure people who specialize in deprogramming sect and cult members would certainly consider this anti-racist faction as a sect or cult on a par with the Charles Manson Family,  and others like it,  where mind control, brainwashing and  repetitious dogma was constantly hammered into their minds, until they accepted the tenets of their particular sect without question.

    The photos I’ve seen of these whites show men who are not in partuicularly good physical condition, so I imagine they’re going to get an example of what anti-white racism looks like when they go to prison, something they’re probably too naive to know exists.    They’ll have a far better understanding of what REAL racism is when they’re forced into intimate contact with the same kind of blacks they insist on protecting at all costs right now.

    • Zorro

      This is the end result of the constant indoctrination that they were spoon fed since the time they entered Kindergarten. There’s a book that people should read called, “None Dare Call It Education”.

  • vladdy1

    The comments are good. I hope, if we haven’t already, that we all take the time to post there.

    • Many are good but a few bothered me.

      I don’t want to offend you “European-Americans” but I’m not European.  I’m American and I gotta say, My Founding Fathers’ would kick you out.  This ain’t Europe and if ya want to be European, you can go to Europe to be European.I Love Europe and Europeans too but the last thing America needs is for Americans to abandon her too.  America must have, she demands, our Founding Fathers’ demand of us, “We” are American and if we can’t handle that, we need to leave.Somebody has got to be here to take her back.  Only Americans can do that.  Let’s stop playing the non-white game.  “We” are American.  Please, let’s be American.  I mean to say, let us not put America second with this hyphenated american stuff.  Let’s stop that and come back to where “We” came from.  “We” are American.

      • dd

        That’s right Stephanie.  In the 50s America was a “melting pot” of people and social advancement was based on a “meritocracy”.  One People.  When was the last time you heard those terms?  The left has fractured society starting in the 60s into Balkanized, disaffected groups with special interests and well-nurtured grievences.   If anybody ever wanted to create a receipe for destroying this country, that is it.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           I hear “melting pot” all the time, but in reference with the need for more Americans to miscegenate.  I have always held that the FFs did not intend  for that term to mean anything more than that European nations would get along regardless of their former national identities and religious affiliation.  That American would or should be a breeding ground for the most generalized mongrelized population in history with fraudulent central government that won’t protect its citizens was never in their thoughts. 

        • Zorro

          It’s the Frankfurt’s School of Cultural Marxism at work.

        • I’m always asking how this happened.  Why are White People “guilty” over things they never did and worse, why won’t they stop since the lies have been exposed?

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         I understand your feelings, but I am afraid that I am of the other camp.  I don’t think that the American you miss has existed for some time and I don’t think it will or even could be “taken back” or recreated.  Even in the best case scenario, nothing every comes back exactly as before; there are always different dynamics and personalities that cause a different result, and that is probably good (in theory). 

        Aside from that, when I look at the government, when I see the media and when I go out in the world, I increasingly feel alien in my own land.  It’s over.  There’s no arguing with it.  But it won’t last long.  The misrule and lies that this country has been increasingly telling itself in order to continue on will come full circle.  Lies this big cannot be sustained forever, or for even very long.

        Your second paragraph reminds me of Gone with the Wind.  I love that film and probably watch it a few times a year.  When I do, I always mist up at certain points, because I see it being repeated again and again since then.

        Little Rebel Gal, could I have the next waltz?

        • The America I am willing to lay down my life for is the one that existed before I was born so yes, you’re right of course.

          “increasingly”?  Sir, I’m past that.  I only call her America because it’s just habit.  What she is now is Dead and what we’re feeding on is nothing but a Carcass.  Yes, I really feel this way.

          full circle – And what happens once we get there?  I only see War.  Bloody, Bloody War.  We’re being cornered and once that is complete, what happens?  I only see us either giving up and giving in or coming out swinging.  Since I have Faith is us, I see us fighting.

          Waltz – Do they still teach kids how to do that in School?  We learned and I loved it!  We also Prayed in homeroom and stood and faced our Flag to recite our Pledge of Allegiance.  I consider myself Blessed that I was able to experience that.  I know Prayer is no longer allowed and I hear The Pledge is now considered “offensive”.  The Waltz is probably considered “offensive” too now.

          • Church_of_Jed

            Don’t lay down your life for what is already dead. Stay alive and seek revenge on those who killed our White Dream.
            “Give me Liberty or Give me Death” is a perversion.”Better Dead than Red” is a lie.
            You must be alive to get revenge, and at times like these, revenge is all that matters.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

             We have some differences in outlook, to be sure.  For example, I don’t see how the waltz becomes a comparable political football as something like prayer and that line that was added in 1950 “under God” to force out the “commies.”

            I walk a straight line of logic, so I know what the FFs intended, and have no dog in the fight.  So when I read the details of history, I know that the FFs did not want the public sector (or taxes) to be used to promote any one religion.  I also think that the public school system is obsolete today.

            I don’t have “faith” yet I fight. Why do you think that is?  It is because of several things including that I have always been a fighter personally, in every legal way.  I mean I come from a background where I competed in debate and won in school and also had a 25 year career as a top competitive athlete (fencing).  But I also mean philosophically, even if I know that the odds are against it heavily, I will not be defeated easily; I will go down fighting and am prepared to do so in every way.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    How dare those racist Nazis have lunch!!

    This is like something out of Weimar Germany with the “anti-fascists” playing the role of 0bama’s Red Guards.  When in modern history haven’t leftists used violence for political purposes? 

    We should ask which group orchestrated this?  Or what government agency?

    Notice how the media report this, as a brawl, not a one-sided attack with the targets of violence described as “neo-Nazis”, “White Supremacists” with details of their criminal records and supposed cowardice, but nothing about the antifas.

    With that said:  Why would the “White Supremacists” have their meeting in Illinois, a non-CCW state and put the time, date and location on their website? It is almost as if they were inviting trouble.

    If these antifas keep doing this, their targets are going to start responding in kind, and hopefully they will.

    Police and Cook County prosecutors said criminal charges could be filed Sunday.

    I doubt it. This will be the last we hear of it, it’s already been shoved down Orwell’s Memory Hold.

    I have a feeling there is more to this story than we are being told.

    Bon

  • PURE LIBERAL SCUM.
    Problem is, THEY intimidate while the rest of the majority
    sits on its ass.

  • The losers, pic attached.

    Only a pea-brained moron who will never amount to anything would join something called “anti-racist action.”  As if we need these losers to be opposed to “racism,” when all of Official America already is.

    None of these morons know what’s in store for them in the Illinois state prison system.  We’ll see if their action is so anti-racist at the end of a several year bid.

    • StivD

      The one in the top right hand side will have it really rough. He looks like the youngest and most boyish, yikes.

      But, if this is their first violent offense they may only get long probation and house arrest, etc. Their lawyer might even ask the court to take it into account that they attacked skinheads.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      Hey, doesn’t that one on the top left side look sort of lie you-know-who?  Just trim that moustache a bit, give him a shave . . .

      • I thought that too…funny!

      • Hahahahaha!!!

        I didn’t notice that until you mentioned it but since you did, YES, yes he does!!!  That’s just too funny!  What a sharp eye you have!

        • Church_of_Jed

          “I’m an ignorant racist. My very existence is a hate crime and marks me as a target for behaviour correction through ‘altruistic punishment’ therapy. First, they tried to make me feel bad for the sufferings of the dignified and noble blacks who deserve our love and sacrifices, but I couldn’t get Channon Christian out of my mind. Next, they tried to convince me that vibrant and enriching Diversity is our greatest strength, but I couldn’t get Eve Carson out of my mind. Finally, they demanded that I promote systemic change and social transformation by implementing structures of welcoming and inclusive tolerance for all so that I could be unburdened from my unearned White privilege and the shameful past, but I couldn’t get Brittny Watts out of my mind.  So I decided then and there to make an even greater investment in my ignorance by doubling down on my racism.”

          -Rev. Jed DeValleyism, “Why racism is the one sin that saves White lives,” 2011

          • Being Guilt Free is the worse thing you can be!  Actually, what’s worse than that is to bring up all these actual acts of racism.

            Nothing irritates them more than to have their own racism shoved in their face.  They’re so used to racism being assigned to White People that Reality/Facts makes their heads explode.

      •  They say all blacks look like.  To me, just about all far left wing whites (or “whites”) look alike — They have that same hostile, unclean, devil-may-care look about them.  The ironic part about it is that they think they have to do what they do to get over on the system, when the system agrees with them.  All the need to do is shave and shower and wear decent clothing, and the SPLC will give them internships.

        • joewest666

           Their eyes look hollow.

      • thiudemir

        Top 3 in photo  are brothers.

      • Spartan24708

        Yes he does! and he is supposed to be an anti-fascist? HaHaHa!

      • Hey Sherman,
        I want to apologize to you.  I understand why you and others use the term “European American” and I just want you to know, I’m okay with it.  It’s meant to define White and going forward, I’m gonna use it on Politico instead of American.  They hate my stinkin’ guts over there as it is but wait till I use European-American….They’re really gonna go nuts!

    •  “”We’ll see if their action is so anti-racist at the end of a several year bid.””

      Sorry guy – you watch too MUCH TV.
      Slap on the wrist for anybody – BUT FOR LIBERALS ATTACKING whites
      they’ll get a reward.

      Think Zimmerman vs. OJ

    • Zorro

      In a strange twist of irony, the ARA idiots that attacked other White people for their political beliefs, are now seeking out the Aryan Brotherhood for protection in Prison.

  • White Dragon

    And the masters of Divide and Conquer are……..?

    The same group of tribalists that foster reciprocal antipathies between all gentile nations.

    • Mutant_Swarm

       From the Tribune article:

      “Mark Potok, an investigator with the anti-discrimination Southern
      Poverty Law Center, said using violence against racist organizations is
      not uncommon but is bad for the cause.”

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         I think this goes aback well before the advent of the SPLC.  Chicago was an early hot bed for communist thought.  In the 19th century, many Germans immigrated to the Chicago and Wisconsin regions.  They read German and were familiar with Karl Marx.  If you look at the history of Wisconsin for example, they had an anti-government riot in about 1887 that required Federal troops to put down.  It was part of the early Union movement.  The thuggery and crime that Chicago came to be known for has produced radical Leftist groups like the Weathermen and the Yippies.  If you look at the claims and aims of those groups alone, you will see how easy it is to have a group of self-righteous, white leftists doing this now. 

        Of course, Chicago also has had its problems with Nationalists, Nazis to be exact.  They used to dress up in German Nazi costumes and parade into Jewish neighborhoods and make speeches.  What this is – is an echo of this “culture.”

        A successful path for white race realists IMHO, is not to be found in either of these groups or their history.

  • KingKenton

    It would be interesting to find out if these guys become White Nationalists after being in the state penitentiary for a while. How much you wanna bet they have to turn to the Aryan Brotherhood just to stay alive (or put themselves into solitary).

  • ViktorNN

    I’m far from a legal expert, but couldn’t the victims of this attack go after this ARA scum in civil court, as well as letting the state prosecute them? It sure would be nice to see these fools working dead-end jobs and having their wages garnished to pay off settlements to their victims, once they’re released from prison!

  • This just shows how worthless these people are, they cant even fight one on one or let people have views different then theirs. Why do they do flash mobs why do they hack websites? Easy they know that they would lose face to face with anyone. I had the pleasure of meeting one of these winners. I asked why do you fight your own people? The answer was because we stand for injustice. I replied if you were caught in the LA riots back in 1992 do you think the blacks would have attacked you or not because your part of an Anti-Racist lie. He goes thy would find out what i stood for. I said no sorry pal but they would see your skin and attack. The only way these scum will learn is the hard way and it is coming to all of them.

  • sbuffalonative

    While I don’t want this to escalate because the victims will be made thecriminals, now that they know they’re being monitored, next time theyknow to be prepared.

    If nothing else, have cellphone cameras and cameras fully charged todocument who the provocateurs are. Assign one or two people to pull backwhen the fight occurs to capture all the action. DON’T turn yourcameras over to the police when they arrive. DON’T tell the police youfilmed the events because you likely will never see your cellphone orcamera again.

    Also, before you start swinging, start pulling off their masks. Whatthese people fear most is being identified, hence, the cameras to document who they are.

    • Zorro

      Have someone outside taking the license plate numbers of the cars they drove up in. If they are Rental Cars, sue the Rental Agency, as well.

  • Lou

    Just curious, Do the  “South Side Chicago Anti-Racist Action ”  show up at the new black panthers luncheons with hammers and attack those fascists ???  I would think , not !!
    No they’re  anti WHITE ,not anti racist “South Side Chicago Anti-Racist Action.”

  • sarah stein

    Good thing one of the victims fought back forcing these bitches to delay their get away to pick up the pieces of one of their fallen.  Now they can be charged with attempted murder.

  • MissBonnie123

    If these pathetic anti-white villains get prison time, their perspective on nonwhites might change drastically after the nonwhites, especially Blacks, beat some sense into them.

    Prisons are horrible places for White people to reside. They might very well learn this lesson soon.

  • Denise

    South Side Chicago Anti-Racist Action?

    I’ll bet these White thugs grew up on Sugar Smacks and video games in a fluffy white suburb, and have never set foot in that area of town.

    I had an acquaintance years ago, a young Black woman, who was from the South Side of Chicago. She told me emphatically, “White people don’t go to the South side of Chicago. If they do, they will get killed.”

  • MissBonnie123

    Question: Are you White liberals/progressives proud of this? Are you proud of the decades of anti-white propaganda that helped produce these pathological young men?  Do you believe you actually help create a better society when you constantly bombard our young with messages of hate towards Whites? Do you agree with the end result of violence mentioned in this article?

    I don’t ever want to hear you tell us how compassionate and kind you are. I’ve heard several of you state this. You will immediately be called out on your lies.

  • mikejones91

    Any time a black tries to make the statement that ALL whites hat blacks, I simply use stories like this as an example. Simply put—You ever see a black panther get the hell kicked out of him by another black man? An anti-racist black man–hahahah, good one. Derbyshire was so right in what he said. 

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    White civil war.  The righteous abolitionists, the attackers, against the self-deluded Nazis that make a bad name for white nationalism.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx
  • Zapp Branigan

    I wonder if these highly moral anti-racist whites also attack black and brown racial nationalists? Or do they just hate and attack their own kind with hammers and clubs while they are sitting in restaurants and eating quietly?

  • One thing we always must remember:

    Young people as a group don’t do these kinds of group things on their own.

    Whenever there is a mass of young men wearing uniforms and bearing arms who conquer a hill, you can be assured than an old man with five stars on his helmet was behind it.

    Likewise, I think there is one or more college professors behind these goober-freaks and what they did.  One hint is that many of them list college towns like Bloomington, Indiana as their residence.

    If we had cops and prosecutors on the ball, they would use the young people in order to fish out the professor(s) who were really behind this.

  • PortugueseMarine

    The term white supremacist has got to go.
    White Americans do not want to be supreme over anyone.
    There are only three types of Americans.
    Real Americans, pseudo-Americans, and Socialist Americans and real Americans are nationalists.

    • We are supreme whether we want to be or not.

  • Up to my neck in CA
  • radical7

    The video shows all the perpertrators to be White.

    • Up to my neck in CA

      Thanks for the news flash not-so radical7