Diversity Perversity

Ted Nugent, Washington Times, January 9, 2012

Diversity is America’s greatest strength, according to the left and its socialist, Marxist, commie cohorts and co-conspirators running rampant across the country.

If you listen carefully to these America-hating, social-engineering liberals, virtually all behavior, conduct, morals and beliefs make America stronger.

This, of course, is toxic, brain-dead logic that leaves ordinary Americans shaking and scratching their heads in confusion and disgust. We recognize bull dung when we hear, see and smell it, and we have no desire whatsoever to embrace it.

The left’s definition of diversity does not make America stronger. It is weakening and destroying America. Let’s be bold and honest: The left’s version of diversity is repugnant.

{snip}

Those Americans who stand up to the left’s diversity mantra are pilloried and labeled as pernicious, vile, intolerant, racist, backward Bubbas.

The left is forcing its version of diversity throughout our society and culture. According to the left and its acolytes, we are supposed to respect people who refuse to respect Old Glory or learn English, look for a job or put forth the effort to do an honest day’s work. We are supposed to respect all cultures, values, laws and religions—even when they have proved throughout history to be dangerous and diametrically opposed to our American way of life, customs, laws and traditions.

It will be a cold day in hell before I embrace voodoolike religions and unclean stone-age cultures that retard progress instead of advancing it.

The real issue is that by forcing diversity and multicultural nonsense in our workplaces, schools and government agencies on people who still cherish common sense and traditional American values, we’re ripping the nation apart.

{snip}

I respect diverse people who respect and cherish basic American customs, traditions, goodwill and values. I have no respect for left-wingers who employ intimidation to make multiculturalism or diversity mandatory as the law of the land.

The diversity punks believe in racial set-asides and preferences. You won’t ever solve discrimination by engaging in reverse discrimination. Maybe a racist like Jesse Jackson or Mr. Holder believes in reverse discrimination, but ordinary Americans do not. {snip}

Real diversity, real change, real progress is accomplished by promoting and embracing Western culture, values and traditions, which is what made America great and created the greatest quality of life ever. {snip}

Diversity is an intentional left-wing disaster and destructive platform. The result of the left’s efforts to force this cultural rot on America is that there is more cultural rot, more social and racial division and less economic activity.

{snip}

The left’s version of diversity is social, cultural, economic and ethnic rot. Believe it.

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  • Anonymous

    Go Ted Nugent!

  • Anonymous

    The “Nuge” is never at a loss for words and rare is the time I disagree with him. Common sense and the guts to speak his mind,seem to be his constant companion. However, I do take exception to the following paragraph from him.

    “The diversity punks believe in racial set-asides and preferences. You won’t ever solve discrimination by engaging in reverse discrimination. Maybe a racist like Jesse Jackson or Mr. Holder believes in reverse discrimination, but ordinary Americans do not.”

    Just like the phrase “people of color”,  I very much dislike the term “reverse discrimination”.  This implies that White’s  are behind the majority of discrimination and rare is the instance of a non White discriminatory act.  Of course anyone capable of thinking for themselves can plainly see just who is behind MOST acts of racism, bigotry, discrimination, etc. 

    Other than that, this is another great piece from Nugent.  But it would be nice to read his, and other realist’s views, somewhere else, other than the rare right wing rag.  

  • Anonymous

    Wow go Ted Nugent!!!

    I didn’t know he had feelings about anything like this.  As far as I knew it was the guitar and the NRA.

    He’s very eloquent, and not in a brainy “I’m smarter than you” kind of eloquence.  He speaks so everyone can understand, and does it very well.

    I’m going to “like” his facebook page now if he has one!

  • Anonymous

    Before everyone here falls in love, remember this is the same guy who cited Rosa Parks as a personal hero of his in one of his books. I’m not suggesting what he said here isn’t worth saying – but let’s not get carried away.

    • Anonymous

      A lot of us tend to change our opinions as we get older…and agreeing on the  overall picture is much more important than dissecting each and every tiny detail.

      • Anonymous

        Perhaps. But before everyone dubs ‘ol Ted the latest “great white hope,” I am simply suggesting that all may not be quite as it seems. I would be willing to BET that Nugent would find the general message of AR, and what most of us embrace in terms of race-reality repellent!  It’s not as if the Rosa Parks comments were stated twenty years ago either. It reminds me of a Glenn Beck. Sure he says a few correct things about the treachery of the Left, etc. The next moment he is heaping praise upon ML King, and telling us all about those glorious “black founding fathers” and the like. All things in perspective.

        I’m just saying folks should be cautious with their praise for the messenger here, though the broader message may be accurate. That’s all really.    

  • Anonymous

    its funny. whites are devided throwing up traitors like gingrich and paul who will devide the white vote because they work for obama meanwhile blacks are all for one guy. so they laugh at as just like blacks are all in a mob against one white when they are attacking whites in philly or chicago in a flash mob. sad pathetic self hating whites pitiful. a mob of blacks has to cause them tramautic brain injury or permenant disability in a beatdown before they get the message and even then they usually dont. most of my fellow american whites are traitors to race and country. they deserve whatever is coming to them

    • Anonymous

      exactly. morgan harrington was MURDERED BY A BLACK in virginia still unsolved but suspect linked by dna. LITERALLY  every bone in her body was broken after she was raped then thrown in a field. a view of her bedroom from news reports shows it plastered with obama stickers. her rich parents just went to AFRICA!!! to dedicate a hospital in her name!!! africa. ha ha ha ha liberals!! whites deserve everything that they have coming from these blacks you watch what they do this year look up RWANDA to see what these people are capable of under the muslim marxist traitor

      • Marcy Fleming

        Obama is not a Muslim and Islam is opposed to Marxism. Remember Afghanistan ? Some of us are atheist Jews opposed to all forms of anti-reason and supernaturalism. Look up WW1 and WW2, the Inquisition, the Thirty Years War,
        etc., to see what Christians are capable of doing to other Christians.
        We Jews have a terrible human rights record in Israel/Palestine too.
        Religious tyranny is a separate from the Black problem, which needs to be our main focus AND plenty of Arabs & Hispanics will agree with us on that.

  • This was printed in the Washington Times? Other than the term “reverse discrimination,”( I suppose he had to condemn Whites for something hence being publish at all) this is a very encouraging piece than needs to be said in public.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not an American. But as European I fully agree with Mr. Nugent.

  • Anonymous

    I would be real careful about embracing Ted Nugent or Hank Williams Jr as some type of populist, Conservative folk heroes. Both of these guys get full access to the MSM mainstream media and they were wild supporters of all of the Neo Conservative wars against Iraq. The lying anti White MSM likes to put up fake opposition to their program – recruit some ex rock and roller/C&W singer who records records shouting “Bomb, bomb Iraq” and how America is the greatest nation of all and any immigrant from any part of the world can make it in America if they just embrace American ideals of freedom, God, guns and NASCAR and bombing Iraq.

    Sam Francis got purged from the Washington Times for defending the legitimate interests of Whites and Sam could read classic Greek and Latin. Pat Buchanan just got censored for life from MSNBC. These other White guys like Ted Nugent who have free rein of the MSM should be suspect in our eyes.

    It’s long past time we got away from the MSM.

  • He talks a tough game but he is nothing more than a liberal from 1980. He wants non-Whites to adopt our “culture”, speak our language, intermarry with us. Assimilation is the final step of genocide.

  • Anonymous

    Diversity is simply anti-white or even a kind of hatred against whites. Where ever it’s practiced the literal definition is discrimination against whites, and then blaming whites for discrimination. Since ‘whites are all discriminating’ I guess it’s Ok for them to give a gold platform to minority activists while silencing or firing anyone who might object? ‘The diversity punks’ certainly don’t believe in racial set asides or preferences for whites.

    Diversity and tolerance could be a good thing but it’s certainly not a good thing the way it’s being put into practice.  It’s not about tolerance at all but about being intolerant. It’s not even about ‘being intolerant of those who are intolerant’. If it were they’d have to start with themselves. I don’t see them praising pro-white groups. And since they exist for every other group, equality demands they exist for whites too. Since these racial groups and associations, NAACP, etc. exist for every other group, there can’t really be diversity until they exist for whites also. Any call for diversity on campus, or in the workplace, that is not calling for the formation of white united students or white trade or white workers associations isn’t calling for diversty at all but it’s opposite. How can they exist for all people of color, and often be the definition of diversity, and not exist for whites? 

    • SFLBIB

      It seems to me that only those doing what they know is wrong ask for tolerance. Mother Theresa never asked for tolerance.

  • Anonymous

    Ted Nugent rocks! remembering the early days of his stardom career when he was lead guitarist for a band called Amboy Dukes..dont know much whether he held similiar views towards diversity or liberal ideology when he began his career as a musician and if he had he must of kept them to himself for he had a very successful career.Imagine how hard it must of been on him(trials & tribulations) back in the days of the sixties revolution to not partake of the drug culture/sexual revolution rampant throughout those times  that was changing the character of America..

    • Anonymous

      Ted Nugent was a draft-dodger.  Vietnam was “not his war”.  I would like to see Ted’s response to this.

  • survive club

    Real diversity will be accomplished by one thing and by one thing only: SEPARATION!
    In the Great Smoky Mountains there are different varieties of white-tailed deer that evolved under the different environmental conditions of the different valleys and other areas of the Smokies.
    Bring all these varieties of white-tailed deer out of their separated valleys and put them together, and in just a few generations there will be only ONE variety of white-tailed deer!
    Mixing peoples together in every nation of the world will END diversity!*
    But of course peoples aren’t being mixed together in every nation of the world.
    No one is demanding that African countries be flooded with non-Africans and that Africans assimilate with them and blend themselves out of existence.
    No one is demanding that Asian countries be flooded with non-Asians and that Asians assimilate with them and blend themselves out of existence.
    But EVERY White country and ONLY White countries are being flooded with non-whites, and urged to “assimilate” (i.e. intermarry) with them.
    If I object to this ongoing program of genocide against my race, I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
    The people pushing this program of White Genocide say they are anti-racist, but what they are of course is anti-White.
    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

  • John McNeill

    I agree that Ted’s article reeks of rightwing civic nationalism, but hey, he does make a reference to “ethnic rot”, which may be baby steps for him in coming to terms with ethnic awareness. And I used to be very angry at any civic nationalist arguments, but one thing I’ve learned recently is that there are some “civic nationalists” out there who are actually sympathetic to our ideas, they just hide them for the sake of pragmatism. While I prefer a more truthful approach, I can understand where these covert types are coming from.

    And I seem to recall reading an article where Ted was performing in Iowa, and praised the whiteness of the crowd.

    Interestingly enough, there seem to be other musicians in the rock/heavy metal genres who seem to be on the fence in regards to racialism. Peter Steele of Type O Negative comes to mind, along with folk metal bands like Arkona who make references to “their folk”.

  • Ted Nugent you have nailed it with this. Great piece!

  • Anonymous

    Ted is low IQ as well as lowlife scum. Wasn’t he the one that was busted for shooting an underage deer over bait? (both illegal). Oh and he was busted because he proud to be  filmed doing that for a hunting cable show?  Disgusting and also a moron.

    • In this case, I choose to praise the message without necessarily praising the messenger. I agree  Ted Nugent would not be my first pick to carry our message. He probably would not be my second either. However, I must confess his words are somewhat soothing to hear, considering we are being invaded by mexico, under the auspices of multiculturalism and diversity.

      Someone needs to say something…..

      • Anonymous

        Double entendre?  I did not bother to read the message, many better men before him have said the same thing far more eloquently.

        Ted should stick to music.

        • Anonymous

          I wholeheartedly agree but in this case Ted Nugent has a lot of followers out there that would probably not be concerned with race realism without the platform from which he is preaching and just because someone is a fan of his doesn’t necessarily mean they are anything like him in their own lives.
          He is getting the message out and if it gets thru to just a handful of people then he has added to the ranks which isn’t really a bad thing.

        • “Double entedre?” Not as I read it. Your words were quite clear. No subtle meaning or understanding detected!  Of course, there have been “better men” who have expressed the same message in a far more eloquent manner. Does that mean the message should be dismissed simply because the messenger does not meet that standard? I do not happen to believe so. At this point, we need all the help we can get.

          Besides, I cannot recall the last time such a message delivered by a “better man” was printed in the Washington Times. Can you?

          • Anonymous

            toxic…  brain-dead…  bull dung…  swan-dive naked into a pool of goat urine…  vile…  intolerant…  racist…  backward Bubbas…  voodoolike religions… unclean stone-age cultures…  diversity punks…  voodoo-inspired terrorist punks…  cultural rot…

            Ted’s eloquent prose will NOT do anything for the cause. If anything it is detrimental.  The only people that would read this piece and think it is brilliant are 50 year old rockers that have lost a few too many brain cells.

      • Anonymous

        You’re right and if we are to have any chance against these huge threats, some better learn to practice some of their alleged Christianity and at least accept some who have some differing opinions on details.  As for his changes, those who know both sides usually can better define themselves.

    • … save the (cute) animals.  Imprison the evil men.  Statism at it’s best.

  • Anonymous

    exactly. morgan harrington was MURDERED BY A BLACK in virginia still
    unsolved but suspect linked by dna. LITERALLY  every bone in her body
    was broken after she was raped then thrown in a field. a view of her
    bedroom from news reports shows it plastered with obama stickers. her
    rich parents just went to AFRICA!!! to dedicate a hospital in her
    name!!! africa. ha ha ha ha liberals!! whites deserve everything that
    they have coming from these blacks you watch what they do this year look
    up RWANDA to see what these people are capable of under the muslim
    marxist traitor

  • Since he seems to be on the side of progress in the sense that we can advance technologically, I don’t think he can be described as “luddite”.

  • John Maddox

    When I was in high school back in the seventies I had some connections that allowed me to get into rock concerts free of charge by doing a few hours of work before the show. One of those concerts was Alice Cooper’s Billion Dollar Baby tour in which he ripped the heads off of children’s dolls, sang a song
    glorifying necrophilia and had his head whacked off by a guillotine. That same  AC is now a born again Christian and uses elements from his own stage career to witness to audiences. He also laments the fact that performers like Marilyn Manson adopted/stole elements of his stage persona and carried it to extremes that he would never have dreamed of in his wilder younger days. I might not agree with his glorying Parks and King (a habit that most neocons have gotten into these days) but I certainly can’t argue with his stand on 2nd amendment rights, hunting rights, and the road to perdition we are on with diversity and multiculturalism. He is also a devoted family man.

    As to music. Blacks were at one time highly creative when it came to music. Ragtime, Jazz, and  blues influenced the rock culture from Elvis to the Beatles and Stones. Blacks have long ago abandoned that devotion to one of the only art forms that they were able to perfect and

    • Anonymous

      I agree with those points about black music. The greatest culture expression ever created by Africans happened in the US, not in their own continent.  It’s a shame that this legacy is abandoned in favor for the destructive gangsta rap culture.

  • Anonymous

    Ted Nugent is an IDIOT!

  • Anonymous

    It is not PC to mention disproportionate black crime. It is deemed “racist”. But there are exceptions. It is OK to mention it when a company is sued for wanting to weed out criminals. Liberal perversion marches on.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/industries/pepsi-beverages-pays-313-million-to-settle-federal-race-discrimination-charges/2012/01/11/gIQAHtgyqP_story.html
    Pepsi Beverages pays $3.13 million to settle federal race discrimination chargesBy Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, January 11, 10:37 AMWASHINGTON — Pepsi Beverages Co. has agreed to pay $3.1 million to settle federal charges of race discrimination for using criminal background checks to screen out job applicants.The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission says the company’s policy of not hiring workers with arrest records disproportionately excluded more than 300 black applicants.

  • Anonymous

    Non Nordic cultures have made valuable contributions to world civilization. Nevertheless, all cultures are not of equal value. 

  • Anonymous

     The first link below, True Diversity & anti-Racism message, a 2-min video comprised of stills and captions may seem understated but it encapsulates beautifully everything that aware white people throughout the world desire, doing so without any rancour or hate whatsoever. It really is a knock-out punch to the anti-white globalist brainwashers who label us racists. All who read these pages should distribute its message as widely as possible.  The second 5-min video is a song takes a more upbeat approach and its messages ‘They want genocide’ & ‘anti- Racist is a code for anti-White’ is aimed at young people and in the last 72 hours it has gone viral on the Internet in Northern Europe. Please don’t let the techno-type music put you off . It’s not supposed to be great art but the the simple catchy way the message is packaged means it will hit home with young people – and the tens of millions of  White people who need a rude awakening. 
    http://tinyurl.com/7asnj85
    http://tinyurl.com/8722gxy

    • Anonymous

      Sorry, moderator but I don’t have a clue what a 404. is – but obviously it can’t be played. For those who are interested I have included, not the tinyurl above , but the youtube link. If this fails then simply go to youtube and key in  ‘Anti-Racism is a code for Anti-White’ – johnny white rabbit.  That should do the trick.

  • Beaumont

       As I remarked to a fellow patient in a doctor’s office in the ’90s ~ “Diversity, Disorder, Disaster!”    And this is exactly the bitter fruit we are reaping everyday!   I have long since grown so sick of the stupid word “Diversity!”  In truth, what it means for Whites and their civilization is “DIE-versity!”  

  • SFLBIB

    The Girl Scouts has come under fire for numerous links to
    the Planned Parenthood [PP] abortion business and having pro-abortion speakers at
    their recent national conference.

     

    Now, an Arizona
    college student who is an employee of the Girl Scouts has quit her job after
    scouting leaders informed her she would have to turn her pro-life T-shirt
    inside out.  http://www.lifenews.com/2012/01/09/girl-scout-employee-quits-not-allowed-to-wear-pro-life-shirt

     

    The position of the Girl Scouts is particularly perplexing
    because the organization claims that it “seeks diversity at all levels of our
    employee population, especially in its leadership.”

    Quote:

    Embracing Individuality Is Our
    Core Value

    … As a core value, diversity is a critical component of our
    volunteer, employee, and governance systems. To reach girls from different
    backgrounds, we strive for a volunteer base that reflects this nation’s
    diversity. We have programs to recruit and retain volunteers from across our
    nation who have the ability and passion to positively affect the lives of girls
    in diverse communities. Similarly, we need access to the best employee talent
    that the nation has to offer. Accordingly, we seek diversity at all levels of
    our employee population, especially in its leadership. Our National Board
    Development Committee works to ensure that the Girl Scout National Board of
    Directors reflects the nation’s diversity. The board continually assesses Girl
    Scouts’ progress in promoting diversity throughout the organization. Local
    boards of directors and their nominating committees make similar attempts to
    ensure that their boards reflect the diversity of our society.

    As we face a complex and rapidly changing 21st century, our
    nation needs all girls to reach their full potential. Over the course of their
    lives, the lessons learned in Girl Scouting will help girls contribute more to
    their families and communities as well as the nation’s workforce and
    leadership. We are proud of what Girl Scouting has done for so many girls
    across the spectrum of our nation’s communities. However, we need to continue
    to raise the bar and increase our efforts to ensure that girls of every
    background, racial/ethnic group, socioeconomic group and geography have access
    to the numerous benefits of Girl Scouting.
    http://www.girlscouts.org/who_we_are/diversity

    Unquote

    The word “diversity” appears no less than six times in this
    quote. If the Girl Scouts means what it says in this
    statement, it would “embrace” those with a pro-life message as well as the one
    espoused by PP, … because … how much more diverse could you get?

     

  • Anonymous

    “It appears to me that Ted is suffering from some delusional impression of an idyllic  “western” man”
    There was a period of time where Ted Nugent wore a loin-cloth on stage and one of his songs had the phrase, “sanity is past tense”. I wonder if he is a paleoconservative?  When Ted Nugent says the left wants to return us to voodoo-religion and the stone age, he’s being too kind. Even stone age culture is far ahead of that promoted by the diversitoids.

    During the 70’s and 80’s rock radio would often play a live song by Ted called ‘the great white buffalo’, where Ted chastises white men and praises Indians. Compared to the diversity crowd even the Indians have a healthy culture.

    • Anonymous

      I have my reservations about Nugent as a spokesman for conservatives, but would not question his changes.  Many of us have changed and often the changed person is wiser and more committed than the trained in childhood types.  I became more conservative because I LISTENED to the other sides arguments and checked all factual and historical data.  That takes years, and it took years, and more years will continue to change my views – because I am intelligent enough to want to go on learning.  I just think Ted Nugent ought to moderate himself a bit.  He’s always swung wildly.

  • Anonymous

    Ted Nugent’s heart is in the right place when it comes to conservative values.  That being said, his praise of African culture and “roots” in his music leaves a lot to be desired. 
    It should also be noted that Mr. Nugent appears to be a “chickenhawk”, having defecated and urinated on himself and appearing unwashed before reporting to his local draft board.  You see, Vietnam was “not his war”. 
    As a Vietnam veteran I cannot (and will not) show respect for those who shirked their responsibility and duty to serve when called to do so. 
    I cannot show respect for someone who “made someone else go in his place” while presently exuding “patriotism” and wrapping himself in the American flag.
    Mr. Nugent OWES an apology to EVERY Vietnam veteran and service member.

    • Anonymous

      And your handle is “anarchyst?”  I suggest you go review some historical documents regarding the Vietnam war.  The Pentagon Papers, released in 1973 illustrated the lying, abuse of international and national law, among other things that allowed 58000 American males – mostly white – to die for a lie.  I have the greatest respect for anyone who has the courage to fight in any war and the grunt was not to blame.  But to go  on about the rightness of that war and even to be proud of it is only vainglorious.

      • Anonymous

        Hello sir,  I WAS THERE.

        • Anonymous

          No, I wasn’t a protester, I got drafted and went, too.   You’re not the only witness… and I question you altogether since your big print contains a plot device from Apocalypse Now.  I lost a number of friends and saw others die later at home from various left causes, slow suicide really.  You care SO much about the Vietnamese people, do you – enough to kill 2 million of them, North and South.  You still apparently believe that 58,000 of our young men was worth your ego now?  Not me, and THOSE WHO DO NOT LEARN FROM HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT.

        • Anonymous

          A chip on MY shoulder?  You’re the one who was wildly pointing around at everyone who you think is your opposition, calling them communists.  I haven’t seen much of a tendency to introspection in your posts, but the need to blame others and bombastically pound your chest, beat a long dead horse, etc.  Your transparent arguments are obviously borne of inbred political thinking.  If you do complete and honest research, you would have to deconstruct your defenses, which appear to be completely personal.   I just have not been selective about my research and it is mainly based on the declassified Pentagon Papers.  This trumps any other sources, arguments,  claims and rationalizations.  In any event, the historical outcome of it is well known and it wasn’t positive in any defensible way and it was NOT due to civilian cowardice but to the huge amount of mismanagement and arrogance in our leadership from the post WW2 period on, not to mention the growth of a highly influential military/industrial complex that had no qualms about how many kids it killed or how much damage it produced at home socially.

          The deep costs of the Vietnam War as even observable in these posts.  It left America divided and it has hardly ended.  Yet, this site is NOT about revising well known history, but created and sustaining a hopefully growing cadre of White Race Realists.  IMO, wars like Vietnam and certainly the ones since have been a great loss to the whites in America.  Currently, it is mostly, overwhelmingly whites who do the actual combat in our current wars and if you check the death lists you will find it they are overwhelmingly white males, who come from rural locations.  This phenomena exists because they tend to still buy into a vision of America that is not based in reality.  They are ready to die for ….. what – Diversity, Multiculturalism, Preferred Groups, to protect non-whites from them and their children?

          It is time to think beyond the usual confines.  The era we are now in is a separate and new historical epic.

        • Anonymous

          A chip on MY shoulder?  You’re the one who was wildly pointing around at everyone who you think is your opposition, calling them communists.  I haven’t seen much of a tendency to introspection in your posts, but the need to blame others and bombastically pound your chest, beat a long dead horse, etc.  Your transparent arguments are obviously borne of inbred political thinking.  If you do complete and honest research, you would have to deconstruct your defenses, which appear to be completely personal.   I just have not been selective about my research and it is mainly based on the declassified Pentagon Papers.  This trumps any other sources, arguments,  claims and rationalizations.  In any event, the historical outcome of it is well known and it wasn’t positive in any defensible way and it was NOT due to civilian cowardice but to the huge amount of mismanagement and arrogance in our leadership from the post WW2 period on, not to mention the growth of a highly influential military/industrial complex that had no qualms about how many kids it killed or how much damage it produced at home socially.

          The deep costs of the Vietnam War as even observable in these posts.  It left America divided and it has hardly ended.  Yet, this site is NOT about revising well known history, but created and sustaining a hopefully growing cadre of White Race Realists.  IMO, wars like Vietnam and certainly the ones since have been a great loss to the whites in America.  Currently, it is mostly, overwhelmingly whites who do the actual combat in our current wars and if you check the death lists you will find it they are overwhelmingly white males, who come from rural locations.  This phenomena exists because they tend to still buy into a vision of America that is not based in reality.  They are ready to die for ….. what – Diversity, Multiculturalism, Preferred Groups, to protect non-whites from them and their children?

          It is time to think beyond the usual confines.  The era we are now in is a separate and new historical epic.

      • Anonymous

        I would do it again without reservation . . . I have the courage of my convictions . . . not vain or glorious–war is NEVER glorious.  You will find that almost ALL servicemembers who were in war do not want to see our “best and brightest” sent off to war . . .

        • Anonymous

          Look up vainglorious.   Courage of convictions…. but do you have the courage to ever admit that you are wrong?

          You’re just covering up your deeper turmoils on this issue with a hardened ego defense. And before you question that dx, I will tell you that I am a doctor and was a medic.

          • Anonymous

            ONE American death was ONE TOO MANY.  I am not covering up anything.  As for your assertion that my experiences were a “plot device” from a movie that I have never seen,  you are wrong . . . our so-called “news media” was not interested in the “good” that came out of the war.  They wanted to see “bodies” and contrived American “atrocities”.  The protesters did not even have the sense to admit that they were wrong.  The first goal of the protesters were to “save their own skins”.  The north Vietnamese admitted that although they lost the war militarily, they won it with their manipulation of the American news media.  They KNEW that the US news media was full of communist sympathizers (the same situation we have today).
            Best regards, “Dr.”

        • Anonymous

          You are exhibiting a complete denial of well known historical facts.  I am against communism, but people with your one sided, uninformed views only help confirm to those who have communist sympathies that their opponents aren’t capable of any sort of objectivity.  You help create more of them with obstinate, even a neurotic style of denial in the face of set history.

          Again, the Pentagon Papers, released in 1973 contradict everything you are claiming, while supporting notions such as that the protesters turned out to be the more correct of the two opposing views of the subject.  We also have the record of a lying, conniving, nearly psychotic president who had to leave office in humiliation in 1974.

           The US government – the Pentagon used body counts to show “progress” since the war had no battle lines.  It was not something the media created.  Even Lt. Calley has admitted that what he did at Mai Lai was wrong.  I know about real atrocities personally as well as officer fragging incidents, huge drug use among combat troops, etc.  I would love to hear what “good” you think was being done by the war then or as a result, especially since our leaders knew it was an unwinable war by 1967.  1968 saw more die than any other year.  That and all the following year’s damage, socially and in fact could have been avoided.  Those protesters have been vindicated by history.  There is NO historian or book extant on how much good that war did then, or over the long term.  You are making up that stuff about manipulating the media.  American leadership did all the work for  Ho Chi Minh.  You appear woefully uninformed and apparently, by choice.  How does it feel to live under a stone for 40 years?

          Also, I think the charge that protesters were doing it to save their own skins is a simplistic and untrue charge.  They were not a dumb, uninformed bunch.  People leaked data from sources just as they always have and so many learned about he lie of the Gulf of Tonkin and other earlier and later illegal acts committed and covered up by our leaders.  The blithe and reckless nature of LBJ and people like ***Westmoreland , combined with emerging FACTS, combined with McCarthyists of the time, such as you appear to be, rather informed them that they were being used as cannon-fodder for a war that was clearly, immoral, illegal, unwinable, and set to ruin many of them for no clearly or believable mission.

          As for your claim that US military was on some sort of mission to help Vietnamese people; well, they sure used a meat grinder to make the medicine.  What a laugh.  Helped with Agent Orange, village burning, indiscriminate bombing?  How about supporting an unpopular dictator government that had already arrested, tortured and killed 1000,000 Vietnamese citizens?  (Diem’s government 1957) ***(who is recorded on film claiming that “Vietnamese people do not value
          life” – rather unravels your earlier claim that we were on some sort of
          grand inoculating mission there).

          There’s a documentary called “Hearts and Minds” that shows a good review of all the facts of The Pentagon Papers.  You probably could never bring yourself to be objective enough to read a history book on the subject let along watch a documentary that will undo your bombastic claims here, but I offer the info all the same.

          Do you really think that no one would die from a war in Vietnam, or anywhere?  The question really is; Why don’t we look a lot closer every time some Chickenhawk president claims we have cause to go out and police the world, killing more average people (and overwhelmingly white males), while accomplishing nearly NOTHING.  No one seems to learn from history.  I suppose because like you, too many can’t handle the aspect of admitting they were ever wrong about anything and corporations like Halliburton always think they can gain from mayhem.

          Sorry, but your admirable partriotism isn’t enough.  Nor is your outright condemnation of people who knew they were trying to save people there like you and me.  I don’t like that some took to spitting on troops when they came home, but things were pretty out of hand all around.  The results of the overall lousy treatment of Vietnam Vets is reflected by the stat below:

          “According to a survey by the Veterans Administration, some 500,000 of
          the 3 million troops who served in Vietnam suffered from post-traumatic
          stress disorder, and rates of divorce, suicide, alcoholism and drug
          addiction were markedly higher among veterans.”

          I truly worry about the prospects of the White Realist Movement if its cumulative IQ is expressed as such in your replies to me here.

          Dismissed.

          • Anonymous

            Hello again.  EVERY Vietnam veteran’s part if the war was different, mine, yours and the millions of Americans that served.  I was not in a “line unit” that only saw the face of all Vietnamese as “gooks”, slants, etc.  I would suggest that you read the books “Our War Was Different” by Al Hemingway and “Lessons From The Vietnam War” by Leonard M. Scruggs. 
            You will find a love-hate relationship that was formed by each individual’s experiences in Vietnam.  Not everyone’s experiences were positive, but, not all of them were negative, either.  I can see that you STILL have a “chip on your shoulder” which seems to be brought on by your wartime experiences.
            We all did what we had to do in order to survive.  I commend you for your service, but I must stand by my assertions.  If that is not agreeable to you, we can agree to disagree.
            Best regards.
            I agree that EVERY war since Korea has had it’s share of corruption and invalid reasons for waging it.  I hope we learned not to denigrate the soldier, sailor or marine as was done to us during Vietnam.

            An aside.  Do you remember RMK-BRJ?  These were the “civil engineering” war “profiteers” in Vietnam–RMK was Robertson-Morrison-Knudsen–Robertson was Pat Robertson’s daddy.  The other half was BRJ–Brown-Root -Johnson–Yes, THAT lyndon johnson  . . .

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, shows how useful all that stuff anarchyst apparently did single handedly turned out to be …. it was predictable since we did it after WW2 and Nixon was visiting China.

  • Anonymous

    Cultural diversity is never a strength – it’s a hopeless weakness that seeks to fragment and isolate citizens into warring groups.  American managed to assimilate millions of immigrants by forcing them to adopt American culture, customs, political beliefs, and the English language.  First generation Americans often had difficulty doing this but their offspring became loyal Americans simply because they had to in order to succeed in our country.

    We shouldn’t tolerate immigrant groups who resist assimilation.  Cultural diversity is chaos and open warfare looking for a place to erupt. In no way is it a source of strength. 

    • george00

      So do you want blacks to assimilate? So do you want blacks to move into white neighborhoods and marry and have kids with white people?

      The first paragraph contradicts itself. Immigrants assimilated “by forcing them to adopt” or they just did it “because they had to in order to succeed”? Nobody forced them to come here and nobody forced them to stay.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm,… maybe just most you’ve heard.  People who condemn art outright usually haven’t explored it much.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you know, the “True Nationalists” are a very small self-defined group that stand against everything, they can identify with old stereotypes.  And unless you repeat every slogan and attitude you’ve learned since birth, you are some sort of ne-con to be ignored and reviled.

  • wow some oustanding wisdom and hall of fame quotes.

    “It will be a cold day in hell before I embrace voodoolike religions and unclean stone-age cultures that retard progress instead of advancing it.” LMFAO!

    i already hear the left’s cultural relativist response – that the goal of cultures is not oriented toward progress. that ‘progress’ as a cultural notion is western, white supremacist thinking. that cultures are not intended to be linear progession. that is why the left will never acknowledge racial differences in intelligence. the amazon tribes and aborigines of australia have made no developments or progress precisely because they have the lowest recorded IQ’s on Earth that border on retardation. this has been proven multiple times by multiple scientists across decades by multiple tests adjusting for measuring basic ‘universal’ human intelligence. and yet the left are stumbling for explanations as to why these types of people can’t adjust and contribute to the white man’s civilization that is 5,000 years more advanced.

    “The result of the left’s efforts to force this cultural rot on America is that there is more cultural rot, more social and racial division and less economic activity.”

    less economic activity – the greatest strength a nation can have is homogeneity with controlled levels of diversity as the right thinks of diversity – talent, innovation, distinction, ambition…the factors that have been proven by urban scientists as the most important in the success of competitive cities. racial diversity has absolutely no impact whatsoever on improving economic activity and has never been proven, unless you’re talking about replacing blacks and browns with whites and asians, where the increase in economic activity would be obvious.

  • Anonymous

    “How does it feel to live under a stone for 40 years”?
    I know speaking for myself, sometimes I feel pretty good thinking about how I’ve been hiding under a rock 40 years or so now. I see many things differently than apparently most people do. It’s probably one reason I took right to AmRen.

  • Interesting.

    The fact that political structures cannot be understood outside of the context of a society’s cultural and artistic forms is a truth that has been long forgotten by our so-called ‘elites’ and ‘social scientists’. 

    In itself, the switch from arts as an expression of the refined taste of an intellectual elite (at a time when such a thing existed), to arts as a medium of popular expression, was the very moment our civilization started to drift toward to multiracial, relativist bedlam we now live in.