In New York, Mexicans Lag in Education

Kirk Semple, New York Times, November 24, 2011

In the past two decades, the Mexican population in New York City has grown more than fivefold, with immigrants settling across the five boroughs. {snip}

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About 41 percent of all Mexicans between ages 16 and 19 in the city have dropped out of school, according to census data.

No other major immigrant group has a dropout rate higher than 20 percent, and the overall rate for the city is less than 9 percent, the statistics show.

This crisis endures at the college level. Among Mexican immigrants 19 to 23 who do not have a college degree, only 6 percent are enrolled. That is a fraction of the rates among other major immigrant groups and the native-born population.

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The problem is especially unsettling because Mexicans are the fastest-growing major immigrant group in the city, officially numbering about 183,200, according to the Census Bureau, up from about 33,600 in 1990. Experts say the actual figure is far larger, given high levels of illegal immigration.

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Unlike some other immigrant populations, like the Chinese, Mexicans have few programs for tutoring or mentoring.

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Many young illegal immigrants in New York City say there is no point in staying in school because their lack of legal status limits their access to college scholarships and employment opportunities. Some drop out under the erroneous belief that they are not eligible to attend college. (Illegal immigrants who graduate from a high school in New York State or earn a G.E.D. are not only allowed to attend the state’s public university system, but are also eligible for in-state tuition.)

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  • Question Diversity

    Many young illegal immigrants in New York City say there is no point in staying in school because their lack of legal status limits their access to college scholarships and employment opportunities. Some drop out under the erroneous belief that they are not eligible to attend college. (Illegal immigrants who graduate from a high school in New York State or earn a G.E.D. are not only allowed to attend the state’s public university system, but are also eligible for in-state tuition.)

    The NYT thought it was bird dogging for the DREAM Act, but then poured cold water over its own reasoning. So their reasoning is wrong. If they want the real reasoning, they should interview teachers in California and in the Southwest. Mexicans and other similar Indo-Americans just aren’t that interested in education.

  • Deirdre

    It’s insanity that Mexicans who just get here are “eligible for in-state tuition”. The lunatics are running the asylum. I paid every cent for college and then some, and was never “eligible” because I’m white. Half my paycheck pays for Lord Knows how many families. In my 33 years working, I wonder how many of these parasites I’ve personally fed and clothed. This is getting more and more sickening with each passing day. Will there be anywhere left to go?

  • Anonymous

    They are so surprised that Mexican nationals from the lowest classes in Mexico are having accademic problems!

    In addition, the claim that there is little funding put into special programs for Mexicans is ludicrous if it pertains to the nation as a whole and it is probably ludicrous in New York City, too. After all, NYC has an enormous Puerto Rican and other hispanic population and probably puts enormous amounts of money into bilingual education and other programs for native Spanish speakers.

    From practical experience working in eduation for many years in the Denver Public Schools and also the suburban schools around Denver, there is an enormous amount of money put into bilingual education and other special programs for illegal and legal immigrants.

    In addition to Spanish, many schools have Vietnamese tutoring programs, Hmong tutoring programs, Russian tutoring programs, ESL programs and others that use absolutely enormous amounts of money. It stretches credulity to think that this does not take resources away from English speaking American children who are not illegal or legal immigrants.

  • Dave

    Unlike some other immigrant populations, like the Chinese, Mexicans have few programs for tutoring or mentoring.

    And I suppose it is the burden of Whites to arrange those programs? It’s not like other Mexicans or Hispanics can be expected to take the initiative to mentor their youth. The Chinese immigrants must have an easier time because their language and culture is so much more similar to ours.

    About 41 percent of all Mexicans between ages 16 and 19 in the city have dropped out of school, according to census data.

    The silver lining is that those are Mexicans who will not receive preferential college admission and employment on account of their tribe’s poor record of achievement. I don’t see the high Hispanic drop-out rate as a “crisis,” I see it as an indication that stricter immigration laws and enforcement are a necessity.

    Many young illegal immigrants in New York City say there is no point in staying in school because their lack of legal status limits their access to college scholarships and employment opportunities.

    They have the right idea. Our society really isn’t for them, and they know it. The next step is ship them back home.

  • sbuffalonative

    “Many young illegal immigrants in New York City say there is no point in staying in school because their lack of legal status limits their access to college scholarships and employment opportunities. Some drop out under the erroneous belief that they are not eligible to attend college.”

    They drop out of school because they know they won’t get free money to go to college. How about working to pay for college. Others have done it.

    This is just more minority excuse making after the fact. They can’t cut it in school so they cry ‘sour grapes’.

    This from the minority that’s supposed to save the US from extinction.

  • elitist

    The vast majority of Mexican-Americans are basically Native American with some admixture of Caucasian genetic material.

    On average, they have IQs in the 80s.

    The vast majority will be unable to perform academically, and will be relegated to second-class status in any advanced society.

    Do the members of Mexico’s tiny Caucasian oligarchy (you know, those Lebanese-Mexican billionaires, Polish- and Russian-Mexican landowners, etc.) wring their hands over the academic insufficiencies of mestizo peasants?

    Of course not – they have a better plan: ship the surplus to the US!

    Do upper-class Turks wring their hands about the academic insufficiencies of Anatolian peasants? Never.

    But in Germany, the official line is:

    we have to get these people up to snuff academically!!

    Denial of racial differences in cognitive ability is a kind of PSYCHOSIS, a DELUSION, and should be treated accordingly.

    The best disinfectant for this medico-olitical dysfunction is sunlight:

    until the scientific community stands up to political correctness on racial difference, nothing will change.

    Unfortunately, they are COWARDS, so don’t hold your breath.

  • Trav

    Why would they stay in school?

    They can work part time at an Arby’s and the Govt will supplement thier income to more closely reflect the median income of an average high school grad.

    They will get food stamps, W.I.C., Earned Income Credit, and many other forms of funding…while still claiming to be a ”tax payer”.

    After that, all they have to do is keep thier un-wed ”wife” pregnant, ( coz they don’t legally marry, so they can get more aid) and wait for someone to sue for discrimination…They are learning from the blacks very well in that regard.

    They’ve got it made in this Country…and ALL of your politicians are fighting over who gets to give them (and the entire South American population) amnesty and free reign on YOUR money and safety!

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    They drop out of school because they know they won’t get free money to go to college.

    –sbuffalonative

    Not yet. If California is any indication, they will soon.

    Oct. 2011, FoxNews:

    Illegal immigrants can now apply for state-funded scholarships and aid at state universities after Gov. Jerry Brown announced that he signed the second half of a legislative package focused on such students.

    It’s called the Dream Act because free White money is a “dream” for illegals; a nightmare for the taxpayers of California and Native Born American White students who now must compete with illegal aliens for a limited pool of state-funded scholarships and aid. Which one do you think will win??

    About 41 percent of all Mexicans between ages 16 and 19 in the city have dropped out of school.

    I wish the government and media would stop all the angst about “why Hispanics drop out of high school.”

    Here’s the answer:

    Hispanics drop out of school because they have low IQs and therefore do not have the aptitude to handle the high school curriculum, let alone college.

    Bon

  • Paleface 6

    2 — Deirdre wrote at 6:56 PM on November 29:

    “…This is getting more and more sickening with each passing day. Will there be anywhere left to go?”

    __________

    Check this website out :

    The Northwest Front

    It’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but who knows? You might find it an interesting read. The “Dear White American” article is a good place to start.

  • Anonymous

    The mention of the Northwest Front brought to mind a useful reference about demographics and racial problems like the illegal alien invasion and violent black racist flash-mobs. I recommend that white people who wish to prepare for a future consult Chittum’s book Civil War II. You can even read or save it for free online. Chittum does an extensive analysis of demographic data and military factors. Chittum uses that data to forecast the best areas in the country for whites (esp. when the stuff hits the fan). Part of the Northwest is within that region. It is also beautiful, wild, has lots of mountains and forests (why would that be useful?) and has a climate to which whites are well adapted or endowed. I have lived in the Northwest and it is one of my favorite regions. However, it is important to consult Chittum’s demographic and military analysis.

  • Paleface 6

    Can you fix the link in post #9? It returns an error 404 page not found on this site. Thanks.

    Paleface 6