Conservatives to DOJ, FBI: Stop Advancing Southern Poverty Law Center’s Anti-Christian Agenda

Penny Starr, CNS News, February 10, 2014

A coalition of pro-family and traditional values groups sent a letter yesterday to Attorney General Eric Holder and FBI Director James Comey asking that the Justice Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigations to stop using the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as a resource and authority on hate crimes.

The letter was written by Lt. Gen. (Ret.) William Boykin, former commander of U.S. Special Forces Command, and now executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC). It was co-signed by representatives of like-minded organizations, including the National Organization for Marriage, the Traditional Values Coalition, and the American Family Association.

The FBI, for example, uses SPLC as a “resource” on its hate crimes website.

“The presentation of SPLC to the public as a trusted source of information on the serious matter of hate crimes is completely unacceptable,” said the letter.

“The SPLC is a heavily politicized organization producing biased and inaccurate data on ‘hate groups’–not hate crimes,” the letter stated. “Moreover, the SPLC findings are not consistent with trends found in the FBI statistics.

“The FBI states that there has been a decrease in hate crimes of 24.3% from 1996 to 2010,” the letter stated. “During that period racial hate crimes decreased by 41.9%.

“However, the SPLC claims that since 2000, the number of hate groups has increased by 67.3%. Something is not right here.”

The letter notes the SPLC is linked to the first conviction for domestic terrorism under a 2002 District of Columbia law after Floyd Lee Corkins II was found guilty of that charge and other felonies for shooting a security guard at FRC in August 2012.

Corkins, who was sentenced to 25 years in prison, admitted to investigators and in federal court that he targeted FRC based on a “hate map” on SPLC’s website that listed the organization as a “hate group” because of its support of traditional marriage and opposition to same-sex marriage.

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“We appreciate the work the FBI does every day, but we cannot allow the SPLC to be listed in official FBI resources as a friend of civil rights and law enforcement when the organization has become one of the biggest bullies in America.”

The letter concluded that it is “completely inappropriate” for the DOJ to use SPLC’s data and called for links to the organization on its website to be “taken down immediately.”

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  • NeanderthalDNA

    SPLC, led by fake Jew Mo Dees…
    On the vanguard of White genocide and civilizational collapse.

    • Black Swan

      Dees himself said he learned from the hucksters at revival meetings he was dragged to as a child. He identifies with Jews when it’s convenient, pretends to be an average white when that’s convenient. Same for Tim Wise and both are sociopaths.

    • LACountyRedneck

      I don’t believe most of the rest are fake Jews.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Certainly no blacks in power positions.

        • LACountyRedneck

          True. The Negro lesbian in the group steadies the ladder.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Oh, she found the ladder, eh?

      • Sloppo

        How can anyone know which Jews are fake?

  • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

    The SPLC is a for-profit hate group that banks its money offshore. No responsible law-enforcement agency would have anything to do with such an outfit, but the FBI is manifestly not a responsible law-enforcement agency.

    • mikebowen55

      Nor are they a respectable law enforcement agency.

      • MikeofAges

        Never has been, even in the bad old days. The FBI was created by executive order, not by act of congress, for the limited purpose of investigating crimes occurring on federal property. When J. Edgar Hoover was appointed director, he proved to be one of the great bureaucratic power mongerers of the age, in an age when that type thrived worldwide. Every time a particular law enforcement function was up for grabs, the FBI competed for it and often got it. This included functions the FBI, as an investigative agency, should not have had. Particularly, the FBI should not be in control of the national criminal records database. Maybe they shouldn’t have the national crime lab either. The problem with the FBI is that it always has had a political and social agenda involving the maintenance of the Anglo-Saxon ideal and, more recently, the primacy of elites over potential competing and countervailing social and political forces. Tied into that is the idea that FBI has to maintain an apocryphal position as the leading law enforcement agency in America, though it was never chartered to serve that function

        In my estimation, the agency needs to be trimmed a little in its functions. It’s an old dog now, and it isn’t going to learn any new tricks.

  • Puggg

    I thought the problem with the SPLC was that it is anti-white.

    • BonV.Vant

      it is made up entirely of the ones we can not mention. Some say the ones we can not mention never do anything to antagonize others and that all of the resentment towards them is based on “envy”. Me thinks not.

  • MekongDelta69

    Morris $leaze and Mark Puke-Up must be laughing their asses off, while they rake in tens of millions of dollars a year to put in their pockets.

    www[dot]discoverthenetworks[dot]org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6989

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    Only because the SPLC is now picking on conservative Christians, mainly because the SPLC is trying to worm its way into the purses of gay men.

    • BonV.Vant

      purses, good one

    • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

      On the spot. You’re a great observer.

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

        If I was gay, I would be asking this logical common sense question of the SPLC:

        “All the conservative Christians you now call haters of gay people, they have that way if not worse for a long time. But you didn’t think to call them haters 20 years go. Why now?”

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          Well, I think I can answer that one. It’s because the gay tide has broke and it’s time to cash in. Of course, this isn’t what they’d say, but that’s what it is.

          Having said that, I don’t really have anything against gays. I see homosexuality as one of nature’s ways of controlling population. Rats and other animals have been shown to produce homosexual and other abnormal behaviors in crowded population densities. The problem is that our modern societies have perverted nature’s subtleties. Gays now think that they should also be able to act like heterosexuals, adopting children (or getting sperm) and pretending to be straight people. There is a violation of biological fact and basic reality. The other thing is that while gay men love men and also women, lesbians hate men and often act out the worst aspects they can imagine or assign in their own stereotype of the worst men they can imagine.

          I practiced for a while in a town in California that was also partially a gay resort. The men were really not such a problem, but women’s weekends were filled with street fights (two women fighting over another), drunks and other problems that had the sheriff department going all the time. There were even lesbian biker gangs. One was called “Dykes on Bykes.” There were women’s craft shows where straight women learned that their male babies were not allowed inside. I have more stories, but this is enough for now.

          Christians are full of love, except when they hate, which is a lot of the time. I don’t care, they can love or hate at their own pleasure. But hating haters is rather an oxymoron, and also hypocritical when you’re obviously only doing it for the money it can bring.

  • Spartacus

    “We appreciate the work the FBI does every day, but we cannot allow the
    SPLC to be listed in official FBI resources as a friend of civil rights
    and law enforcement when the organization has become one of the biggest
    bullies in America.”

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    • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

      In this case, the parrots are right, aren’t they?

  • Truth Teller

    SPLC operates numerous training sessions for police departments all over the country claiming that “white skin head gangs” are the most serious criminals in America. They even put on such sessions in black and brown cities where the only Whites are commuters in the business districts. SPLV, ADL ACLU and AJC are just branches of the same organization. They are against Whites, not just such White behavior such as long term marriage, well brought up children, a work ethic etc. They are against us period.

    • Nancy Thomas

      Yes, and I believe that this ties in to the “white people targets” the DHS bought for the “No Hesitation” program, where cops are trained to blow away a “pregnant white woman with a gun” or an “old white man with a shotgun.” And don’t forget the billion rounds of hollow points they bought just in case the Christians get rowdy, since Christians are known for blowing things up and having street riots. If it wasn’t for those damn Christians, we’d have a nice country!

  • MekongDelta69

    Morris $leaze and Mark Puke-Up must be laughing their asses off, while they rake in tens of millions of dollars a year to put in their pockets.

    (I notice you’re not even allowed to use “dot” in place of a period in URLs anymore. Your comment will be auto-deleted. No “bold” either. And a few other ‘modifications.’ I don’t know if it’s AmRen or Disqus.)

  • So CAL Snowman

    “The letter was written by Lt. Gen. (Ret.) William Boykin, former
    commander of U.S. Special Forces Command, and now executive vice
    president of the Family Research Council (FRC).”

    That’s an interesting career arc. How does one go from overseeing and ordering the deaths of many to promoting family values?

    • Nancy Thomas

      The military is an honorable and courageous career. No need to put down our military men.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Sure, but it’s also a mercenary military.

        I know many fine folk go into it with patriotism in mind but…

        In this nationless state of ours…I don’t believe for a second it would exist without a draft but for the very generous benefits folk receive.

        I will NEVER contribute money to “poor” military families who receive socialist style benefits for CHOOSING to enter a well paying profession.

        They get enough of my tax money as it is to prop up an immoral state that wants me and mine dead…

        • Black Swan

          Well stated. Any politician who demands that others fight and die for his beliefs should be sent immediately to the front lines and made to stay there until the war is over.

          I do not believe in involuntary servitude but if it is reinstated, those politicians who did it should be immediately subjected to the draft and given the first lottery numbers.

        • Nancy Thomas

          The benefits are not that generous. Here’s the problem with this thread. The anti-military crew here is blaming the military for issues that are OUTSIDE the jurisdiction of the military. Your objections are about ideology and I AGREE to some extent with those comments. BUT, the same could be said for academics and banking and Wall St. and show business etc.etc.etc, in other words, you don’t BLAME the teachers who have to work in a rotten system and you don’t blame the actor who has to work in a rotten system and you don’t blame the stock broker who has to work in a rotten system so WHY are you blaming soldiers? We’re talking about two very different issues here; one issue concerns the government and who calls the shots and wields the power, and the other issue is the character of the folks who work in the military. It’s a complex issue.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            It’s very complex, and certainly the military does not make political decisions. Influences by the inertia of size, though.

            On the other hand I’m sick of us being the world cop and considering the foolishness of our leadership, believe our boys are ever sent to fight fights which are not in our best interest.

            Also the military is not unlike any other huge taxpayer dependent institution, like say education. Prone to self justification and inertial parasitism. The existence of a large peacetime military with an officer corps for whom real combat serves as the best path to recognition and promotion, which also serves as a mode of enrichment for industry (at taxpayer expense), seems to impel us further to meddle in parts of the world we have no business meddling in.

            I also look at those who enter and receive training they bring back and use in black and brown gangs. I look at the posers in uniform and gag.

            Great respect for many in the military, just kind of sick of it being used for social engineering and being expected to automatically get all teary eyed and compliant when the military is elevated to some form of unapproachable sainthood.

            Our country was not envisioned to maintain a permanent large military and in the big picture I think such has eroded our national character and often demeaned the institution, ironically.

          • Nancy Thomas

            If you really want to pinpoint the problem, read “End The Fed.” Ron Paul claims brilliantly that the fact that the Fed can simply print money to fund a war is the sole reason we go into wars so easily and stupidly. Think about it. If the government had to go to the taxpayers and ask for tax money to fund a war, how many people would vote in favor of that? Not many I’m sure.

        • Nancy Thomas

          Are you aware of the fact that just last week they cut military pensions to make way for billions of dollars for illegals to claim child tax credits? And Jeff Sessions tried to stop them but the Dems shut him down? Look it up.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Not surprising. They’ve raided social security for years, undermined our entire social welfare system for the poor darkies for decades, so why not break promises made to those who served in the military?

            The experience of veterans will be invaluable when the social wars heat up, as will be their righteous wrath. Time for our folk to organize and prepare for this.

            I just think the military has been used for decades to jam social engineering down our throats and to give minorities economic opportunities as much as to defend the nation.

            Furthermore the maintenance of a large military rather impels unwise leaders to use it often in unwise situations. Afghanistan – sure, though we should have gone in in strength and then NOT stuck around to “fix all their problems” (use the military to impose liblefty style totalitarian democracy) and we never should have invaded Iraq. What a bloody snipe hunt and betrayal of our troops and nation.

            I think our troops should be stationed on our southern border to guard our soil.

      • Long Live Dixie

        The military is an honorable and courageous career.

        Personally, I see nothing honourable about a military that spends our money to kill (by remote control) illiterate goat herders in Afghanistan.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          See my post below.

          • Long Live Dixie

            See my post below.

            We don’t agree on WWII, but other than that I think you hit the nail on the head. The attitude “I’m fighting for your freedom. Bow down and worship me” is tiresome, to say the least.

            Where’s this elusive freedom they keep fighting for, anyway?

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            You have the freedom to live around non-whites in an increasingly multicultural, 3rd world atmosphere. They’re fighting for Israel to ensure that our freedoms are protected.

        • Nancy Thomas

          Man….you guys are kind of nuts. Wow. I’m from a military family, and military people are some of the best people you’d ever meet’ usually Christian, always patriotic, and yes VERY brave. You can try to put us down all you like, there are no better people than military people. It’s NOT the fault of the poor soldiers that we are stupid enough to allow a hostile elite to get us to fight wars in the ME. Go and look at the pictures of the men who’ve died in Iraq and you’ll see KIDS, BOYS, most of whom are very young and wanted to do nothing more than serve their country. The disrespect shown here is rather surprising and very hurtful.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            I don’t know what the comment was that you responded to because it got deleted before I could read it. But from what I can guess, the comment was either from a libertardian cultist who thinks that we’re headed to hell in America simply because we used remote control airplanes to bomb and kill evil terrorist Muslims over in Whackistan, or someone who thinks that non-white Muslims are really good, nice, saintly people but a certain tribe has whipped us up into a fit of rage and hate against them for no good reason.

            Either way, it’s someone who would rather be a crank ideologue than actually win.

            My suggestion is to ignore such rants and don’t let the bastards get you down.

          • Black Swan

            What exactly are we fighting for and how will we know if we’ve won?

            It’s not crank ideology to question what the government is doing and why it is spending billions upon billions of our tax dollars doing it in countries in which we have no interest and are no threat to us.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            This is not the same country my father fought for in WW2. I am really rather ambivalent toward the modern mercenary military. Sure many have patriotic notions going into it but seems like they serve as much for personal gain as for patriotism.

            They are well paid and recompensed, most never see combat, and they are not forced to serve. And even with generous pay and benefits they get special discounts, I am always being asked to donate to one fund or another to support them (can they not live within their means?) and the country they choose to and are well paid to defend is no longer my country.

            It’s a career choice and a pretty smart one if you ask me. The Vietnam vets who were either drafted and forced to fight a wrong war, or were raised in what was still our country and volunteered out of true patriotism and got spit on by idiot hippies, were one thing.

            And certainly many who serve in the military today are good folk as well. But I’ve noticed a certain arrogance in many, an expectation to be lauded and worshipped not present in my father’s generation, who were not nearly so well paid.

            My pops actually seemed kind of embarrassed by those who lauded him and what he did. His attitude was something akin to…

            Thanks for the appreciation, but I only did what I should have done, what anyone who could have, should have.

            But then that generation never expected to get blue ribbons and gold stars for doing the right thing, for doing their duty. They sure expected those who shirked responsibility and chose to not do their duty to be disparaged, however.

            This is not our nation any more. If you serve in the mercenary military, make sure you get all the benefits you can. Consider such my sincerest form of thanks.

            But nobody forced you to join the military, and I didn’t ask you to.

          • 2eRep

            Five years in the Legion Etrangere and then twenty years as an American Paratrooper, whose side do you want me on? You sound jealous that you never served.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Whites.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Enough Whites have died in idiot wars started by power brokers in D.C. who use our young like cannon fodder . . ..

            No kidding. The US military has slaughtered hundreds of thousands of whites. It has turned the heart of Europe to rubble. It’s almost unreal that anyone who thinks of himself as a white racialist could possibly have anything nice to say about it.

            Only 15 years ago the US military was killing Serbs to save Albanians!

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Response to deleted post…

            Agreeing with Clarence Thomas or any other Black when he/she is right is not tantamount to support. Expressing a sense of gratitude when a very occasional black speaks up is not a betrayal of one’s race.

            The military thing? Although I think I’ve made my position clear, I can’t fault Whites for wanting to believe in something dear that no longer really exists.

            I understand yearning for the days of Camelot. Support of “the military” is pretty ingrained in conservatives, who make up the majority of posters here. Always found it ironic, however, how many who most detested big government, never had any problem with the biggest, most expensive, most socialist, PC big gubbamint institution imaginable – the military…

            Until threatened with loss of benefits there from…

          • Long Live Dixie

            Support of “the military” is pretty ingrained in conservatives . . ..

            Indeed it is, and that’s a major flaw of conservatives. I think you and I are on the same page here with understanding that the US military opposes our existence. Most conservatives are clueless on this issue.

            I too can understand a romantic appealing to joining the empire’s military. I thought about it myself when I was younger. But even before I was 18 I had figured out that it is against my people. So, I’m not holding others to a standard that I won’t hold myself to.

            Of course, that isn’t a condemnation of everyone who is or has been in the US military. Some go on to learn from their mistakes and evolve in their outlooks.

          • Nancy Thomas

            I agree with you. The wars in the ME are not in our best interests. Still, I don’t fault the poor soldier boys. The elites that ruined our economy and made it so there are no jobs are the same elites that got us into the wars in the ME. Neanderthal is right, this isn’t the same country that we fought for in WWII. You have to differentiate between the grunts and the elites who send those poor grunts off to die in faraway places. Consider also the brainwashing involved. It’s a complex issue. I’ll say this much, I grew up on a base and the schools around the base were clean and safe and the students did their work and spoke politely. You can’t say the same about the schools in Los Angeles, filled with hostile non-whites who have no interest in learning anything.
            There is great honor in being a warrior and protecting your country, but many of you are right to say that the MISSION for our military has been lost and sidetracked.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Thank you, Nancy…

            Last thing I wanted to do was pick a fight with ya. Your posts are very solid.

            Not to belabor a point, but although I’ve abandoned much of my former libtard self since my racial epiphany, I still think much of the support for a huge blank check social engineering military is an unrecognized support for a huge blank check, social engineering, anti-White gubbamint which undermines many conservatives support for “small government”.

            I also fear what this big military is capable of on our home soil should it be used by our oppressive “state” to destroy our “nation”…

          • Long Live Dixie

            In an ideal state I have no problem with a large and professional military. I think technology and geo-politics have taken us past the point of relying on citizen soldiers for our front line defence.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Certainly. As much as I honor and respect our founding fathers we live in a very different world.

            But again, the very conservatives who hate big gubbamint and the welfare kraken seem perfectly OK with the biggest big gubbamint social engineering, wealth redistribution, brainwashing institution that exists – the gigantic professional military.

            On the other hand, I think Europe long ago ceased needing a huge American military force. Japan should re-militarize in the far East and take a large part of our role in Korea, and any delusions that we can “Marshall Plan” the Middle East into some kind of post WW2 Europe are dangerous and wasteful to say the least.

            Understand that I am hostile to neither soft core libertarianism nor mixed market socialism. I think a gifted and productive people of similar capacities could make either or anything in between work well.

            The problem I see, the cause of much ideological acrimony among our folk, is that 800 lb. GORILLA stinking up the place we, despite Mr. Holder’s hypocritical insults, CANNOT talk about or even look at.

          • Nancy Thomas

            Yes, that’s a really good point and ties in more with the thread, taking us back to the Guard targeting gun owners. No doubt our police have been militarized, and the DHS/NSA work with the SPLC/ADL to try to turn our military into a commie pinko defense system. This is very scary stuff. And The Emperor has also been purging the military of Christians as well as anybody who would refuse to fire on citizens if instructed to do so. Very scary. But I seriously doubt that if push come to shove…I doubt that the military would side with the government against law abiding citizens. Thomas Sowell has said that our only hope of getting our country back would be a military coup (a tacit acknowledgement of the kind of men who serve) and this is no doubt the reason for Obama’s tearing down and weeding out Christian patriots in the military. Thing is…he’d pretty much have to dismantle the whole military to get rid of Christian patriots because leftist commie sissies don’t JOIN the military in the first place.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            “Thing is…he’d pretty much have to dismantle the whole military to get rid of Christian patriots because leftist commie sissies don’t JOIN the military in the first place.”

            Yeah, good luck at getting those basement dwelling ANTIFA slimeballs to enlist, then good luck at getting the idiotic spoiled anarchists to fight effectively even if they could drag their flabby drugged out bodies through an even watered down basic training, lol…

            I remember reading about the Spanish Civil War, how the Republican side had to rely on the powerful anarcho-syndicalist union for troops. They were ok at being placed in defensive “dying ground” positions, but good luck ordering them to do just about anything else. A bunch of narcissistic adolescents in adult bodies incapable of anything much beyond spreading entropy and thugism.

          • Nancy Thomas

            One last thing I’ll say is that when Thomas Sowell says our onlyhope is a military coup, the subtext of his thinking is that the military is the last bastion of good and decent and patriotic men who have love for this country. You won’t find it in government or banking or academics or the media certainly. So in my mind, Thomas Sowell’s coup idea is probably the greatest compliment one could give to the military. The military is the ONLY powerful group we have on our side, by that I mean on the right, and that’s why this administration is attacking them.

          • jeffaral

            American soldiers invade foreign countries, humiliate and disrespect the indigenous populations of these countries and then you call the indigenous freedom fighters terrorists. Another braindead Bush-Obama supporter.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            This kind of rhetoric comes off as bashing people in our military that look like just about everyone reading these words, and comes off supporting “American citizens killed in drone strikes” that look like the attached pic.

            You know what happens to politicians who do that? They lose.

            Our movement and our people need to give up our embrace of losing as if it’s somehow a virtue. Because all it will mean is more losing, and then even more losing.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

            Calling that thing an “American” did not make it into one of us.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Between the support of Clarence Thomas at the other thread and the support for the race-destroying US military in this thread, I’m starting to wonder if there are more than just a handful of actual racialists at this site.

          • Black Swan

            I wasn’t able to read the comment. Was LLD specifically against military personnel or against how the government uses the military to “fight” pointless wars in third world nations that are no threat to the U.S.?

            I would never insult the fine military men that I’ve known including my father and grandfather but I question what they’re fighting for and why they’d put their lives on the line for a country that shows them nothing but scorn if they’re White.

          • jeffaral

            Being Christian, patriotic and brave doesn’t save people from being dumb.

          • Long Live Dixie

            The US military has been at the forefront of violently spreading Leftism throughout the world for at least 100 years. It was the US military that pioneered racial integration during and right after WWII. Only a generation ago, the US military was integrating the South at gunpoint.

            You first say there are no better people than the military people. Then you say it is not their fault to be led around by the hostile elites. How is it not their fault? I knew the US military was against my people even before I was of age to join. Why can’t they figure it out if I could? How are people who are clueless better than those who aren’t?

            The borders are left unsecured while the US military goes from one Third World country to another spreading democracy. What is noble about being involved in that racket?

            Very brave? I’ll buy that when the US takes on a country that can fight back, like Russia or China, and does so without a draft.

          • LACountyRedneck

            “Very brave? I’ll buy that when the US takes on a country that can fight back, like Russia or China, and does so without a draft.”
            So if you have a gun and the guy about to attack you has a knife, you’ll call time-out and make sure he also has a gun. Now, that’s brave.

          • Brian

            You wondered above if there were more than a handful of actual racialists…I seem to recall you recently using some harsh words against (white) Yankees, and expressing only half-hearted concern about white struggles overseas, and how it’s all about southern nationalism. How does that square with this sentiment?

          • Long Live Dixie

            …I seem to recall you recently using some harsh words against (white) Yankees . . ..

            I don’t see your point here. Being a racialist does not mean that I live in a fairy tale where no white nationality can be criticised. As I have said before, Yankees have caused great damage to the white race. They are a habitually liberal and egalitarian people They are also anti-Southern to the core. Opposing their dominance of my people does not, in any way, conflict with racialism. Actually, it complements it.

            . . . and expressing only half-hearted concern about white struggles overseas . . ..

            You’ll have to be more specific than that. I have always been interested in Europe’s struggles.

          • Whitetrashgang

            Just don’t fight for the tribe which is every American war except the first 1776.

      • jeffaral

        Can you name one single “honorable” war the American military has taken part in the last 100 years? No wonder Amerika is the most hated nation on the planet. Shock and awe eh?

        • LACountyRedneck

          She’s obviously referring to the average soldier, who has more balls than most.

          • Nancy Thomas

            Thank you. The young southern Christian men who usually wind up fighting and dying for this country are from the BEST stock, have the most integrity, the most honesty, and have great love for their country. It’s not their fault that a hostile elite gets us into wars that serve other interests.

          • LACountyRedneck

            No thanks necessary. I have more respect for soldiers than anyone. If they were patrolling our borders and we were enforcing our immigration laws, we’d be in much better shape. When I see a young military man/woman at the local mini-mart ready to head out, I often offer to buy their soda or snacks. There’s an old guy that frequents our local café. He lost an arm in the Korean War. He has refused my offer for a free meal. These are a great bunch of real men and women. I think in this thread there may be some confusion between the focus on military decision makers, and military soldiers.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            If you pay taxes you already bought their sodas. Let them learn how to live within their means.

          • LACountyRedneck

            Buying their sodas with my taxes and handing them a buck, or a hundred bucks, isn’t nearly enough in exchange for them risking their lives. They all live within their means. Many with the ultimate sacrifice. What value would you put on someone risking their life for what they believe is our protection?

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Your money.

          • LACountyRedneck

            When we’re out of money, surely you will volunteer. We could form an senior group. I’ll be 55 soon.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Strap a dead man’s switch to my explosive rigged hoveround, gimme an M-14, and place me in a breach while the younguns’ take ‘em from behind…

            See y’all in Valhalla!

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I dunno. I see a lot affirmative action thugs and eses strutting around in their uniforms too, expecting people to kiss their brown posteriors and pay them.

            “We’re all green now” I remember being told in the induction center. “We’re all in it for the green now”, perhaps, but I’m White first. Always have been, always will be.

            It’s a cesspool of miscegenation and brainwashing. Young Southern White men end up fighting for their extinction and degradation more than for their patria, whatever their intitial intention.

          • Nancy Thomas

            The latino schools have banned recruiters…saying that the military preys on poor people, which is probably true.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Sorry if I’ve offended, Nancy. I know there are fine folk in the military and who have (misguided these days, I’d say) patriotic impulses.

            Furthermore I fault not wanting to get ahead in life. Almost every male in my family, including myself, has served. I’ll say no more but that your indignation I find understandable and refreshing contrasted to the reality of these days which I find abominable.

            I generally hold my tongue in public on this, like on many topics.

          • Long Live Dixie

            The young southern Christian men who usually wind up fighting and dying for this country are from the BEST stock . . ..

            No. The best stock are standing up against the race-destroying schemes of the US government. They are speaking to our people to educate them, to radicalise them, and to organise them.
            It takes a Hell of a lot more courage and conviction to oppose the tyrants than it does to join them.

            Your arrogance is so typical of US military people I have met. They have not lifted a finger to help Dixie or the white race yet we are expected to put them on a pedestal! No, thanks.

            It’s not their fault that a hostile elite gets us into wars that serve other interests.

            Then what makes them heroic? You just admitted they don’t serve our interests. Whether it’s their fault that they don’t serve our interests or the fault of the people who were calling the shots when they voluntarily signed up is irrelevant. At the end of the day, they have not – from the lowliest private to the highest general – done anything for us.

          • Nancy Thomas

            You are the one showing massive arrogance and I would bet that you never served and that you don’t know any military people. If you think some 19 year old kid is able to discern what you have come to know after many years of study….you’re not being fair or rational. I ADMIT that our military is often abused, that our government has used the military power wrongly. In fact, our entire system can be called a central bank/warfare model. But a tiny hostile elite runs the show, the ENTIRE show, not just the military but the banking system and the media and academia and the WHOLE THING. So it’s ridiculous for you to point at some poor southern Christian boy who’s probably never even been with a woman and gets sent off to die in Iraq, and you want to blame this boy for all of our ills. It’s silly. Our whole system is wrecked, not just the military. The conversation is much bigger than the conversation we have been having here.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Are we supposed to put military people on a pedestal as the best of our people or are we supposed to just accept that they are clueless kids who have no idea what they’re involved in? Which is it?
            You admit the military is part of the wrecked system, so why are you telling us to honour the people who take part in it?
            You distort my words when you imply that I blame low ranking soldiers for “all of our ills”.
            Based on the disappearance of several of my posts, I assume that a realistic appraisal of the race-destroying actions of the US military isn’t encouraged here.

          • Nancy Thomas

            It’s not a simple, but complex issue that takes some brains and thoughtfulness to sort out. It’s not just the military system that is wrecked, it’s the ENTIRE system that is wrecked. Just as you don’t blame teachers or stockbrokers or nurses for our national ills, you shouldn’t blame soldiers either. In my life EXPERIENCE, having grown up on a military base, and now having lived in Los Angeles for a long time, I can safely say that the military people from the midwest were light years ahead of the people here in the big city, in juts about every way that I would want to evaluate a human being. The military people I knew were for the most part devout, patriotic, brave, honest, decent people. Not all saints to be sure, maybe a few drinkers in the bunch, but still down to earth good people. I don’t know why this is so hard to comprehend. I don’t know if you realize that the Democrats hate the military and most military people vote GOP. Look….you’re also forgetting that the people on this site know more, read more, and are no doubt far more intelligent and informed than the rest of the populace. Our thought patterns are not the norm, although people are waking up. So, yes, I think that by and large the warrior class is a good class of people and my experience bears this out. And yes I’ve also admitted that the power of the military can be abused.
            I can distill this very easily by example. I remember shopping for used cars on the base many years ago and I could always find really nice cars and honest people selling those cars. But in Los Angeles? MY GOD! The car sellers here lie and turn back the mileage and tell you the car was never wrecked when it’s a salvage vehicle, etc,etc.etc.
            A military man would never lie to sell a car, would never turn back the mileage, and in fact the military man would probably point out everything wrong with the car for full disclosure. If you’ve never been around military people maybe you don’t know about the fact that they are generally deeply faithful and God fearing.

          • Long Live Dixie

            So, let me ask you again:

            “You admit the military is part of the wrecked system, so why are you telling us to honour the people who take part in it?”

            What, specifically, has the US military done for us that deserves our respect or support?

            Let me (again) tell you that I am not blaming the soldiers for the state of the world today. I know that things are much more complex than that and that most soldiers are just cannon fodder. My question has been consistent – why are you trying to get us to put misguided, ignorant, young, naïve cannon fodder on a pedestal above people who actually work for their race?

            BTW, I have known many ex-military people. Thankfully, not all of them think they should be worshipped for fighting for our (non-existent) freedom.

            You’re welcome to heap praise on an institution and its people that want to wipe us off the map. As for me, I prefer to support my folk.

          • Nancy Thomas

            Nobody said anything about pedestals and worship. You’re beating a dead horse. I’ve conceded that you have a point. However, as I’ve already said, the number of people who are awake is still small, though our numbers are growing.
            In historical terms, the warrior class has always been filled with some of the best and bravest people. Military people SERVE, and this is the key and operative word. They serve their country, and many get totally shat on for their efforts. A big percentage of homeless people are ex-military. They come back shot up with ruined bodies and find it hard to get decent care.

          • LACountyRedneck

            It’s not worth additional effort. Enjoy the rest of the day. It’s about 80F in my neck of the woods.

          • 2eRep

            I suspect you sit around and talk tough and point to your tattoos, I suspect at the first sign of trouble you would crawl to nearest base and hide between a grunts leg.

  • bigone4u

    The SPLC (standing for Slanderous Pukes, Liars, and Cheaters) is no better than those Nigerian scammers who claim to need your money in order to bury $50 billion they inherited. SPLC needs $$$ from stupid libtards to bury nonexistent haters. No different than the Nigerian scams, just more sophisticated.

  • Extropico

    Yeah, it is about creed and not race. We still can’t make it about race in mainstream conservative thought. Not yet.

  • Flanders21

    Morris Dees–Child Molester,Pervert,Wife Beater,and Liar?

    wwwDOTzianetDOTcom/web/dees1DOThtm

  • Flanders21

    ..

  • Puggg

    The particular LEA which provides me with a decent living, like just about all LEAs, is on their mailing list. Even before I became politically aware, I figured out there was something wrong with all this stuff they were sending. A bunch of paranoid chicken little “the Nazis are coming the Nazis are coming” propaganda. But thankfully, it mostly gets sent to our recycling bins.

  • Flanders21

    Morris Dees–Child Molester,Pervert,and Liar?

    wwwDOTzianetDOTcom/web/dees1DOThtm

  • NeanderthalDNA

    Thank you, Ma’am. You are a lady and a scholar.

    • Truthseeker

      I believe this woman recommended Craig Bodeker’s film A Conversation About Race to her students. I salute her for being intellectually honest and encouraging free discussion.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        I’ve never heard anybody of any color make more sense. Some blacks don’t need AA, obviously. One in a thousand perhaps, but that’s something I guess.

    • TeutonicKnight67

      …very few, friend. Very few.

    • Nancy Thomas

      Yes, you’re right, yesterday I read a long rant about latinos written by a black man, he was complaining about the work situation in Los Angeles, and he spoke the dire truth.

  • Nancy Thomas

    Yesterday on Drudge I saw that they are training the National Guard to go after crazy gun owners. I’m not making this up. Then I noticed another story about a cartel hitman who is said to have murdered 800 people. Seems to me our government should target the bad guys, and leave the good guys alone.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      Our military is a mercenary organization whose purpose is to defend the STATE, not the NATION.

      There is no “nation” to defend these days… Just an oppressive state. When one sells their soul to Baalzebul and gets well paid for it I see no reason to laud them as selfless “heroes”.

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      I read that story on the link that Instapundit provided, and while we have a lot to worry about, this isn’t really one of those things.

      The Ohio National Guard exercise revolved around “anti-government” and “pro-2A” followers of William Pierce invading a Portsmouth, Ohio middle school, poisoning the school lunches with mustard gas (*), all on Pierce’s orders.

      And that’s how you can tell this isn’t that serious, at least in terms of the apparent politics of the matter.

      First off, Pierce/NA/NV were hardly concerned with “anti-government” and “2A.” Their politics were more national socialist than right-libertarian.

      Second, Pierce has been dead since 2002. And the NA/NV pretty much died with him, because the NA/NV were little more than Pierce personality cults.

      The ONG cooked up a fake scenario involving a dead man and a dead org so that nobody could sue.

      And the reality is that many times, the military (including “state” NGs) do these hypothetical exercises knowing they’re training for the antics of the Religion of Pieces, and they fully realize their officers are using “extreme right wingers” for political correctness and political cover.

      (*) – Some would already equate school lunches to poison.

    • Max

      It is the righteous who worry them, not criminals.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        Criminals can be controlled, righteous folks cannot. That is why these hostile religious and racial aliens are so fearful of them, they cannot be manipulated, bribed or blackmailed. Criminals can be, and their greed and hatred towards us too can be used against us, whereas virtuous people cannot. If they can’t control or manipulate a group of people, that group is an enemy to them.

    • Black Swan

      SPLC-created training guides and videos covering “hate” are used by local, state and federal police forces across the nation to help them spot “violent extremists,” with violent extremists defined as White people, Christian church goers and ex-military members.

      • Nancy Thomas

        Yes, the SPLC is an anti-white hate group and should be closed down.

  • Conrad

    1. “The FBI states that there has been a decrease in hate crimes of 24.3% from 1996 to 2010,” the letter stated. “During that period racial hate crimes decreased by 41.9%.

    2. “However, the SPLC claims that since 2000, the number of hate groups has increased by 67.3%. Something is not right here.”
    ……….
    1. = I guess that the non-whites are getting too lazy to create fake hate crimes these days.
    2. = White people are waking up in ever increasing numbers. And, WE were never the ones committing those crimes in the first place.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    The SPLC is a racist, hateful organization dedicated to making money for its founder, Morris Dees by scaring wealthy lefties, mostly liberal Jews, that but for them, American Whites would be goose stepping in the streets and firing up the ovens.

    What angers me the most is that the media defer to them as the go-to guys and hang onto their every word when it comes to the SPLC’s definition of hate and race-conscious, conservative Whites — and accept and spread it far and wide as social dogma.
    Or…

    “Accuse others of what you do.” – Karl Marx

  • Sloppo

    Does this mean we can’t trust the Southern Jewish Anti-white Hate Center to present unbiased information? What is the world coming to?

  • MBlanc46

    It’s about time someone went after that bunch of conmen.

  • MekongDelta69

    To the Moderator:

    I tried posting this below comment three times before in this thread and three times it was deleted. Would you mind telling me/us what the new rules are, so we can all save some time?

    This was my comment:
    “Morris $leaze and Mark Puke-Up must be laughing their butts (I didn’t use that word) off, while they rake in tens of millions of dollars a year to put in their pockets.
    (I notice you’re not even allowed to use ‘dot’ in place of a period in URLs anymore. Your comment will be auto[or Moderator]-deleted. No ‘bold’ either. And a few other ‘modifications.’ I don’t know if it’s AmRen or Disqus.)”

  • negrolocaust

    savage warns of race war… good savage nation tonight. talks about
    sharpton and farrakhan etc it is on youtube. farrakhan just threatened
    white genocide savage plays the clips. savage talks about whites getting attacked and the coverup of these attacks.

    • Nancy Thomas

      Yes, it was great. In fact, he sounds like a white nationalist.

      • BonV.Vant

        one of the ten percent that doesn’t vote for the demoncrats

  • Black Swan

    Make no mistake: Their main target is White people. They target and have made a sport of suing White organizations out of business. I haven’t known them to do this to black or anti-Semitic Muslim organizations, only White.

  • Black Swan

    The NAACP is run and given orders by the same folks that run the ADL, SPLC, ACLU and every other anti-white organization.

    • Fr. John+

      Mr. Swan… every organization you mention was founded by ONE race of people. Care to guess which one?

  • LACountyRedneck

    A ‘slight’ over-representation and what a coincidence.

    Supposedly as of January 2010: Of the twenty-one members of the Southern Poverty Law Center senior program staff, twelve (12) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 57%. Of the eleven (11) members of the Southern Poverty Law Center board of directors, six (6) are Jews or have Jewish spouses.

    This is a numerical representation of 55%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population.* This means that Jews are over-represented on the Southern Poverty Law Center senior program staff by a factor of 28.5 times, or 2,850 [two thousand eight hundred and fifty percent] percent, and over-represented on the Southern Poverty Law Center board of directors by a factor of 27.5 times, or 2.750 %.

    • BonV.Vant

      ahh, but you are being “anti-semitic”

  • jeffaral

    The Southern Baptist Convention is the spearhead of Bible Belt white conservatism. Last time I heard of them, they elected Mr Fred Luther, a blackman, as their leader. Surely they are unopposed to Hispanic mass invasion since the invaders are Christian and work soooo hard and their family values are soooo exemplary You bet Christian Conservatism can save Amerika hahahaha

  • Irv Spielberg

    Universal GAYety is Coming !

    Gays are found throughout history. For the first time ever – finally – they’re almost worldwide! Wow!

    This global gaydom is even foretold in the Bible – predicted by Jesus
    (see “days of Lot” in Luke 17 and compare with Genesis 19).
    And
    the Hebrew prophet Zechariah (14th chapter) says that during the same
    gay “days” ALL nations will come against Israel and fulfill the “days of
    Noah” at the same time (see Luke 17 again) – a short time of
    anti-Jewish genocide found in Zechariah 13:8 when two-thirds of all Jews
    will die.
    In other words, when “gay days” have become universal, all hell will break loose!

    Shockingly, the same “days” will lead to and trigger the “end of days” -
    and when they begin, human government will quickly wind down in just a
    few short years. For the first time in history there won’t be enough
    time for anyone to expect to live long enough to be able to attend
    college, have kids and grand-kids, save for and enjoy retirement, etc.
    One final thought. The more we see gays “coming out,” the sooner Jesus will be “coming down”!

    (For more, Google or Yahoo “God to Same-Sexers: Hurry Up” and “Jesus
    Never Mentioned Homosexuality. When gays have birthdays…”)

  • Truth Teller

    Foxman has announced retirement from the ADL anti White hate organization. He has worked for ADL since he immigrated to America right after WW2. Perfect example of why we should have never let any immigrants in. All during the cold war ADL and other Jewish organizations claimed that the Christian Polish and Eastern Europeans who managed to escape from the soviet occupied countries were neo Nazis and Hitler’s collaborators.
    50years of spewing hatred and falsehoods against the goyim(filth, 2 legged beasts, abominations)
    I’m sure his successor will be worse.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Indeed, the likes of him are why Eastern Europeans killed them en masse, after stringing them up by their cuckooburras. Hostile aliens like him are seditionists, who should not be admitted into the country for ANY reason.

  • Who Me?

    The $PLC ought to be dismantled, the assets sold at auction and Morris Dees penalized with ruinous fines and given about 9 decades (without parole) in prison–not a nice plush “country Club” federal prison, either. A barely-funded, grubby state pen would do nicely, where he is in with all the “common” thieves, rapists, killers and con men. He’s done so much damage, and caused so many good people so much undeserved misery through his own greed that he can never repay his debt to society fully, but the aforementioned might be a start.

    • BonV.Vant

      ahhh, but they will call your statement “anti-semitic”

  • haroldcrews

    Note to ‘conservatives’ stop pushing the mythology of Martin Luther King, Jr. and the entire civil rights movement. The homosexual movement has adopted the same strategies and so long as you honor both and accept those strategies as legitimate then you’ll be vulnerable to them. The homosexual movement is using those same strategies to hammer Christians and Christian institutions into accepting homosexual ‘marriage’, adoption and youth indoctrination.

  • emiledurk16

    The phrase “hate crime” is meaningless to me.

    We’re gonna wright a letter to Eric “My People” Holder and
    ask him to stop collaborating with the SPLC?

    You gotta be kidding me.

    We’re gonna need a much better plan than that.

  • bilderbuster

    Law enforcement agencies should actively investigating both the SPLC & the ADL for illegal domestic spying as both of these groups have bought & stolen information on Americans from law enforcement & private companies or infiltrated law enforcement agencies & used their resources to illegally spy on citizens for decades.

    • BonV.Vant

      both those groups were never elected, they have no legal authority, yet they are actually running the government. Gee, and some say that the unmentionable ones are only resented out of “envy”

  • Ace

    An outstanding woman. Thanks for posting that. I did not know of her until you did.

  • Nancy Thomas

    The truly hilarious thing is that every single time I try to advocate for whites, the thought police jump in and scream “KKK!!!!” Comical because the KKK has about five members left, has no power, no influence, etc.,and peaked 100 years ago. There are virtually NO organizations whatsoever that speak for white people. None. The GOP certainly doesn’t rep us. We have no voice at all, and that’s what they have been working for at the SPLC and the ADL and the ACLU for years and years and years, unobstructed and with the government’s full approval. Really stunning when you think about it.

    • Brian

      …five members left and three are FBI agents. ;-)

  • Katherine McChesney

    I know Carol Swain. She sometimes attends my church. I met her at the GOP headquarters the night of the 2012 election when obama was ‘voter frauded’ into the White House. She is a real lady, a true Conservative and a great American.

  • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

    I bet they equally hate conservatives that aren’t Christians, like me.

  • Truth Teller

    I am not a conservative. I am a radical White nationalist. I am very anti American because America turned against Whites 60 years ago. The military, like the affirmative action no Whites need apply civil service is an important part of the government that oppresses us.
    I have read that the military is giving promotions only to women and minorities, preferably minority women and denying promotions to superbly qualified White men. So the White men go out to fight and die while women and minorities have cushy office jobs.
    How can White career military families stand raising their children among the black thugs?

    • emiledurk16

      Even the once prestigious Air Force Academy has espoused the tired mantra of “diversity”.

  • Truth Teller

    Michael Scott
    Thousands of state, city and county law enforcement agencies routinely subject their personnel to SPLC anti White brain washing sessions a la Mao’s China. SPLC actually gets paid to do so out of the taxpayers money. Management dare not refuse the offer for a time wasting anti White training session. With more and more black and brown LEOs why do you think SPLC does this? T

  • Carney3

    There are constant claims from blacks claiming they overheard, if not actually were openly confronted, with non-blacks saying “the N bomb”. Ludicrous. Either imaginary or deliberately deceitful.

  • Brian

    However, the SPLC claims that since 2000, the number of hate groups has increased by 67.3%. Something is not right here.”
    ===
    For starters, the SPLC seems to think a PO box that’s been defunct for five years counts as a hate group.

  • Brian

    Oh, that would have been rich irony.