Conyers Reintroduces Reparations Effort

Bridget Johnson, PJ Media, January 4, 2013

Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) introduced two reparations resolutions on the first day of the 113th Congress.

The first, H.R. 40, is “to acknowledge the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to examine the institution of slavery, subsequently de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes.”

The second, H.R. 98, is “to provide a remedy for survivors and descendants of the victims of the Tulsa, Oklahoma Race Riot of 1921.”

Neither has been received by the GPO yet for the full text to be available.

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But Conyers has introduced reparations bills at the beginning of each Congress—picking the number H.R. 40 to symbolize the “40 acres and a mule” promise made to freed slaves during the Civil War. {snip}

H.R. 40 in the 112th Congress would have established a seven-member reparations commission, with three members appointed by the president, three by the speaker of the House, and one by the president pro tempore of the Senate, to come back to Congress after a year with recommendations.

The panel would be tasked with determining “whether, in consideration of the Commission’s findings, any form of compensation to the descendants of African slaves is warranted.”

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Last Congress’ Tulsa act said “every person who, in connection with the Tulsa, Oklahoma race riot of 1921 and its aftermath, acted under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage of the State of Oklahoma to subject, or cause to be subjected, any person to the deprivation, on account of race, of any right secured at the time of the deprivation by Oklahoma law, shall be liable to the party injured in a civil action for redress.”

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  • 48224

    How about a free ticket back home?

    • gemjunior

      “PS…..John Conyers wife Monica just got out of prison a few weeks ago. Busted for taking bribes in Detroit.”
      That is rich. I wish that our left libtard media would just push this story for it’s irony. If they weren’t just a bunch of stenographers maybe they might but shhhhhh can’t have any disrespecting.

    • TheCogitator

      Of course the idea of reparations is foolish, But just suppose…

      We had a mandatory poll. Non-blacks would be asked if they think blacks are due reparations — yes or no.

      Blacks would be asked if they are due reparations, and if yes, fill in the dollar amount.

      The total dollar amount that blacks said was due them would be divided by the total number of non-blacks who felt that blacks were due reparations. That amount would be the amount that each non-black would owe to the reparations pool.

      This would end forever blacks saying they are owed something for slavery because they would get the full amount requested. It has to be this way because if you pay someone less then what they believe is due them, the debt is not paid, and it is not over.

      The other beautiful thing is that it erases white guilt. All those non-blacks who had guilt feelings would have them washed away because they gave the people they felt guilty about all that they asked for.

      The guilt ridden would work to pay off the blacks who could never again complain they were due anything under penalty of death. The rest of us could go about our lives. Everyone should be happy.

      • Liberalsuck

        Blacks pull the “you owe us” or “we beez’ victims of discrimuhnation and raysizm’ in an attempt to get free money, jobs they aren’t qualified for or so they don’t have to be held accountable when they eff’ up.

        • http://www.facebook.com/ono.udont Ono Udont

          Sounds like the uaw handbook

      • OlderWoman

        They should pay restitution for every murder, rape and theft they’ve committed.

        • Svigor

          Yyyyyep. OlderWoman is 100% right (see my previous post). This is why “who-whom?” (AKA “identity politics”) and controlling the narrative are absolutely vital to the leftist cause. They cannot endure their ostensible (spurious) principles actually being applied as principles. Demanding reciprocity is leftism’s doom.

    • Svigor

      48224 nails it in one try. Any sin attributed to slavery is i-n-e-x-t-r-c-a-b-l-y linked with the sin of bringing them here. There is no two ways about this. The sin of slavery cannot exist except as joined at the hip to the sin of bringing them here. Ergo, any supposed recompense for slavery must be accompanied by a recompense for bringing them here. I.e., “reparations” are joined at the hip to repatriation. Anyone who accepts reparations must also accept repatriation. Anyone who rejects repatriation must also reject reparations.

      Period, dot, end of story.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kit-Ingoldby/100000522429926 Kit Ingoldby

    How much to end it all? How much to end affirmative action and complaints of institutional racism and disparate impact and the race baiting and hustling of Sharpton and the SPLC and all the rest?

    Is there a final figure or is it a case of infinite and endless demands?

    • http://www.facebook.com/ono.udont Ono Udont

      Sadly Kit, I think we all know the answer to that.

    • 5n4k33y35

      Wrong question. It’s not a question of money. It’s a question of hostility. How much hostility is required to make the whiners shut up? That is how much I will give them.

      • Liberalsuck

        They will keep demanding and behaving badly because they know there is not going to be a violent strong backlash from the white community. If they knew everytime they committed violent crimes or demanded more goodies that a mob of armed pissed off whites went storming through their part of town, they would behave real quickly.

        • http://www.facebook.com/ono.udont Ono Udont

          Oh, it’s coming

        • 5n4k33y35

          That is not the kind of hostility I have in mind. All it takes is enough hostility for white people to begin minding our own business instead of their sports and entertainment.

          Also, it is better to argue with hypocritical Progressive Jews than to argue with anyone who cannot be dissuaded by any reasonable argument. Jews at least favor the intellect enough that you can trap them by their own cleverness.

          Most blacks will just get loud, angry, repetitive and gather in their numbers as a prelude to violence, so it is pointless to argue with most blacks.

          For aggrieved blacks to learn what they are already getting from white society, simply withdraw your altruism and that will be sufficient to end the debate.

          • Svigor

            5n, I’ll give you this much, you have put your finger on the Jews’ weakness, even if inadvertently (though I doubt it’s inadvertent); Jews’ self-deception is their strength, and holding their feet to the fire long enough to hoist them on their own petard is the key to neutering their power.

      • StillModerated

        To paraphrase St. Peter, “Silver and gold have I none, but I’ve been stockpiling lead and brass.”

    • HamletsGhost

      $10,000 for each AA, with a free one-way ticket to Africa,would be more than fair. A welfare momma with four chillens would get 50 grand, which would equal 500 grand in most African countries. They’d see an immense rise in their living standards and we could be rid of them for about $500 billion if you include administration costs. Compare that to the unending costs of housing, “education”, criminal justice, and incarceration we must pay every year.

      Repatriation would pay for itself in the first year. The rest is gravy.

      • YoungWoman

        I went to a Diverse high school, and I would just like to say that your use of quotation marks around the word “education” is one of the most appropriate uses of quotation marks I have ever seen.

      • Svigor

        With the 10k being contingent upon the recipient accepting (and using) the ticket, renouncing his US citizenship, and accepting the perpetual ineligibility of themselves and his descendants for US citizenship or immigration, I agree. It would be a bargain at 10x the figure you’ve proffered (5 trillion to get rid of our black population (provided it include a perpetual ban on black immigration) would be the bargain of the millennium..

    • Svigor

      Kit cuts right to the chase, too. Kudos, folks. I can’t over-emphasize how appropriate these answers are. This is a negotiation. Demand that the other party quantifies the acceptable recompense. They must proffer the boundaries of their demands, in certain terms. Until they do, tell them to go spit.

  • MekongDelta69

    Yeah – because $12 TRILLION DOLLARS we’ve forked over since 1964 just isn’t quite enough.

  • Luca

    And I want tax reparations for all the tonnage of money flushed down the welfare/AA/EEO toilet in the name of of rehabilitating the progeny of these misplaced Africans.

    • Svigor

      Correct. The key here is, as others have so aptly suggested, to delineate the beginning and the end. It’s a finite “sin,” and it must therefore have a finite end. Far better to settle for a massive sum (one always joined at the hip to repatriation and descendants’ ineligibility for citizenship and immigration – after all, why would they possibly want to live cheek to jowl with such irredeemable racists) now than to allow these sociopaths to use it as a perpetual excuse and bargaining chip.

  • Sam

    I fully support reparations. They should be generous. Overly generous. Crazy generous.

    We don’t owe them because we’ve already paid, in the form of welfare and AA for at least two or more generations.

    But we should pay anyway. We should pay a lot. We should pay enough to double our national debt if necessary.

    But we get two things in return: First, a total cut-off of welfare, EBTs and AA programs. Second, they lose their citizenship forever, and must leave forever. They sign an agreement, in the presence of an attorney, video taped. A DNA sample and retina scan are taken. Their passport and ID cards are taken. They get on the plane. They land back home in Africa, and are given an ATM card that lets them access their reparation payments, plus their African passport. The DNA sample and other biometrics go into a permanent database of people who are excluded from the US forever.

    That’s how reparations should work. It’s more than fair.

    • FourFooted_Messiah

      Sounds good to me. They got some money to live high on the hog in Africa, and we don`t have to worry about accomodating diversity.

      Same with Muslims and Asians of all stripes. Chinese are too stupidstitious to live here, if they think ghosts from a hospice are going to bother them in their dorms.

    • 48224

      Not a bad idea but I don’t think it will cost as much as you think. One American dollar is worth about 50 trillion in Africa isn’t it?
      Seriously, if they start handing out reparations to black folks, i’m done paying taxes. I will join the active tax revolt.

      • Non Humans

        I’m with you on that. If that happens I will send (more) letters to my “Representatives” stating my cessation of such, and the exact reasons why.
        .
        The time in prison as a martyr would be well worth it.

    • MerlinV

      Any cut off of welfare should be tied to one-way flights to Africa so as to avoid the riots that would follow.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ono.udont Ono Udont

      works for me!

    • bigone4u

      It would make a great reality TV show to follow them back and see where tthey end up. Just one little tweak. Can the loathsome Kardashians also be sent back with them.

      • 5n4k33y35

        I agree, send the Kardashians with them, but keep the Jenner girls.

      • Tucker

        Ditto for Angelina Jolie and her emasculated, nauseating, p-whipped, spineless, self-hating, self-loathing, castrated excuse for a boyfriend, Brad Pitt.

        And, let us not also forget to include her treasonous, blood-thirsty, war mongering chicken-hawk neo-con daddy, Jon Voight.

        • Tim

          I KNEW there was a reason I didn`t like her. I always wondered as a kid, Why does Jon Voight makes helpless Blacks/White do-gooder movies?!? And more importantly why does anyone watch them…

        • OlderWoman

          Jon Voight was an admirer of the Dancin’ Rebbe, Rabbi Schneerson. He was a guest of that Christian White-hating on a Chabad fundraiser years ago. Schneerson’s family line a few generations back has a sickening history of abuse of Christian White children.

          • PesachPatriot

            i don’t know that much about Jon Voight except for that coming home movie, but the late Lubavitcher rebbe was definitely not a hater of christian whites…even the messiah stuff was mostly his followers idea(and they are looked at as cranks, kooks and nutbars by most of the rest of us because their “messiah” has been dead for 20 years now I think). Mr. Schneerson was a lot more conservative than most of his kinsmen on hollywood or wall street. He didn’t do much dancing either. It was also his community that was attacked by rioting bantus in the 1992 crown heights riots. Thats when I started questioning all the “they are just like us ” nonsense. I don’t know about his relatives but most of them lived, died and are buried in russia.

          • OlderWoman

            Have you ever read ‘My Irrelevant Defense”?

          • PesachPatriot

            I’m not defending anyone…he’s dead and quite beyond being hurt by mere words on a website…just wanting to set the record straight…there are some of my kin who deserve furious verbal abuse like lloyd blankfein and noam chomsky…this guy was not one of them. He was considered a very holy and wise man whose advice was sought by prime ministers of Israel and many people of all faiths sought his advice and blessing. I’m not a particularly religious person myself but I am friends with some chabad people and they are some of the kindest, most wonderful people any one could ever hope to know.

            The chabad people also keep crown heights very safe and free of the black crime that plagues many other parts of brooklyn. The young men patrol the area in groups and dole out old testament justice to any aspiring rappers trying any nonsense.

          • Svigor

            Matt sounds like a Righteous Jew…

            May God (or G-d, if you will) bless all Righteous Jews and keep and protect them from any reckoning that befalls their tribe in general.

          • Bob

            Ditto to what Pesach Patriot says. He was very conservative and his followers are also, and they are race realists, especially after Al Sharpton organized that pogrom. He was not anti-Christian at all, to my knowledge. All the Chabad people I know are very very strongly pro-American and would fit right in with the views here on Amren.

          • Svigor

            You too, Pesach. May God (G-d) bless and keep you from any reckoning that befalls the wicked in your tribe.

          • PesachPatriot

            Thank you for your kind words Svigor. Who is the Matt that you are referring to? Also, I have long been a very big fan of Hungary in general for a very long time. Goulash is one of my favorite foods and Countess Bathory is one of my favorite historical figures. I was lucky enough to visit Budapest with my parents in the 90’s, a few years after communism ended…lovely place.

          • Daisy

            The Jews are pro-Israel, not pro-American.

      • dukem1

        First things first.

    • http://www.newnation.org/ sbuffalonative

      Well, no one ever said WHERE the forty acres are located they say we owe them. I’d be willing to substitute a car for a mule if it sweetens the pot.

      • George

        Liberia is lovely this time of year…

    • Morris Thecat

      In a year everything they got would be spent.

      • HamletsGhost

        That’s true, but it’s easier to ignore all the inevitable whining from an ocean away.

      • StillModerated

        Spent on purple hats, pointy-toed wingtips, spinning rims, ipods, VSOP, and marijuana.

      • Svigor

        Haha, I don’t know if that falls under the rubric of “schadenfreude,” but I’m 100% simpatico with that sentiment.

    • HamletsGhost

      No reparations without repatriation!

    • StillModerated

      Are you crazy? Our economy would collapse. The Four Loko company would declare bankruptcy. As would KFC, America$h Check cashing, Mr Ray’s Hair Weave and Lulu’s Nails. Plus all those banks which tricked minorities into sub-prime mortgages.

      • Boereseun

        Your economy is dead anyway, best use it while it’s still here. Pay every single African American and Hispanic and all other non-whites 10 million dollars each, and then give them all one way tickets to their country of choice, outside of Europe, on renouncing all claim to USA citizenship for them or any future descendant.

        Give them the reparations they so seek.

      • Svigor

        Aaaaah, funny. ;)

    • Svigor

      But we get two things in return: First, a total cut-off of welfare, EBTs
      and AA programs. Second, they lose their citizenship forever, and must
      leave forever.

      B-I-N-G-O. Sam gets it. Enuff said.

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    This is where I would have been useful as a Senate staffer. I would have changed and added a few letters in the word that starts with “R” if I could have gotten my mitts on this bill. I’ll let you use your imagination.

    • Puggg

      Colleague to Q.D.: “Whatchya doin’?”

      Q.D. to Colleague: “Fixing some spelling errors in this bill about returning some obsolete farm equipment back to sender.”

  • Ulick

    Blacks, like Conyers, are either not honest enough or not intelligent enough (probably both in his case) to recognize the trillions of dollars that whites have spent trying to elevate blacks as more money spent than the 40 acres and a mule he desires.

    Given the endless amount of money spent and the endless black complaining (and that truly will be endless), part of me wishes that the U.S. had just given them all the freed slaves 40 acres and a mule in the middle of Death Valley and been done with it.

    • dhs

      I think Conyers is intelligent enough to know that demanding Reparations is a good political move.

      He also knows how much he and other blacks have extracted from white men, but he would like to get more while there is still something to get.

      • http://www.newnation.org/ sbuffalonative

        The problem is they would always say NO AMOUNT of money could ever heal their wounds and eventually ask for more.

      • George

        And he gets to pander to the ‘community’. His audience eats up the grandstanding every year.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ono.udont Ono Udont

      Should’ve picked our own cotton

  • jambi19

    How can an African-American prove they came from a legacy of slavery? How man blacks have moved here since 1865 from Africa never once being enslaved yet enjoying all the benefits. A half intelligent Nigerian that moves to the USA today has a huge advantage considering all the affirmative action in education and employment.

    • FourFooted_Messiah

      And yeah, does this affrimative action program distinguish between blacks who just got to the US, and those whose ancestors WERE imported as slaves There is a difference there, does the US recognize that differenceÉ

      • The Ice Queen

        Our country does not distinguish between blacks from Africa and those born here.I used to work with a guy from Liberia. We were discussing college one day, and I was lamenting how difficult it was to find merit scholarships. He said very brightly, “Go to a state college, you’ll get a free ride!” He was blissfully unaware that he got a free ride because of his black skin.

        • FourFooted_Messiah

          Ugh, that’s sick. I could see it IF it was limited to your own native Blacks, but giving benefits to someone who just got off some rusty boat is nonsense.

          • IstvanIN

            You would be surprised at the number of Nigerians who work for NJ state government to fill the black quota.

    • dhs

      You must understand that Affirmative Action has been replaced by Diversity. AA was introduced to compensate blacks for past injuries. Diversity is designed to injure white men.

  • falsedawn

    “reparations”
    __________________________________________
    these people are as funny as a barrel full of monkeys…

  • Luca

    Even if you gave them all $100k each, after about a month most of that money would be back in the economy by way of liquor stores, Cadillac dealerships, KFC, Nike, nail parlors, racetracks, lottery tickets and 100 pieces of bling each. Then they’ll be begging for more.

    • FourFooted_Messiah

      Well, at least you can say they are spreading money around.

    • So CAL Snowman
      • america going down the tubes

        Blacks are not funny. Their attempt at humor is pathetic and every fat black female or big mouth black male tries without success. Richard Pryor with his filthy dirty mouth was funny in their own mentality low IQ way but without smut they have nothing to laugh at. Who is funny today anyway? Liberal whites are not funny but try to be and of course the filthy mouthed or liberal white females and males. There is no such thing as humor in America and especially the uppity white racist in the WH who has put a damper on this white nation.
        America sucks in general with the liberal white and negro leadership debt of 17 trillion. Any white who laughs or go along with this trash is whistling past the graveyard. It is a pathetic time for whites to be growing up who are destined to become a minority in their own nation mainly due to brainwashing by the khazar media.

    • IstvanIN

      They don’t drive Cadillacs very much anymore. They prefer BMWs, M-Bs, and Lexis’. Cadillac wouldn’t be in such a sorry state if they did. Even Escalades don’t have quite the cache.

      • OlderWoman

        Ever seen blacks driving a Hummer? Hilarious.

        • dukem1

          Sounds scary.

      • StillModerated

        That’s because Cadillacs are made in Detroit — by negroes — with sloppy work ethics. Yup, the emancipated soul brother prefers his autos to be made by the nips and the hun.

      • schmenz

        Around here in Milwaukee at any rate the Negro vehicle-of-choice seems to be the SUV.

      • MBlanc46

        It’s a sad comment on the state of the American auto industry that one no longer thinks immediately of Cadillacs when one thinks of blacks.

  • http://twitter.com/elviswinehouse SMASH EQUALITY!

    Jesus F***ing Christ!, this makes me so angry and I don’t even live in America! The yids are behind all of this.

    • OlderWoman

      Probably are. I would imagine that Georgetown University has some say-so about this.

  • Francis Galton

    Well, Mr. Conyers, I know you and your type are not particularly amenable to logic and reason, but I’ll try anyway:

    1) Eligibility for Reparations: Who should be eligible for these reparations, Mr. Conyers?

    –Should they only be given to former slaves? (oops, they’re all dead now; sorry, let’s try again…)

    –Should they only be given to “African-Americans” with demonstrable genealogical connections to slaves?

    –How about to blacks whose families arrived AFTER 1865? After 1964? Last year?

    –What about people who are at most 1/4 black? 1/8 black? 1/16 black? (Are we following the one-drop rule?)

    –How about blacks who are currently imprisoned? On death row?

    –How about black families with net worths over $1 million (don’t laugh, they do exist!) How about Oprah Winfrey? How about Barack Obama? How about YOU?!

    2) Financing of Reparations: Who should be responsible for their financing, Mr. Conyers?

    –Should current slave-owners be the ones financing this? (oops, the only living slave-drivers are non-White and non-American, let’s kibosh that one…)
    –Should verified White descendants of Southern slave owners be the only ones responsible for financing?
    –How about Whites whose families arrived AFTER 1965? After 1964? Last year?
    –What about black slave OWNERS who owned slaves? Should their black descendants have to finance this?
    –What about poor Appalachian Whites who live hand-to-mouth? Should they be taxed more to pay for this scheme?
    –How are you going to differentiate between White and black taxpayers? Are we going to have to fill out our race on our 1040s now?

    Sorry to have to use some big words, Mr. Conyers, but if you were able to follow my rhetorical questioning, you might start to realize that slavery reparations is a non-starter in EVERY conceivable way. If you’re doing this just to please your constituents, you can rest easy–they’ll vote for you even if you go to prison. Relax….

    • The__Bobster

      As a White descendant of Southern slave owners, I believe that the government owes ME reparations. The original 13th Amendment stated that slave owners would be reimbursed for the property that the government stole from them.

      • FourFooted_Messiah

        Ah, yes, were your ancestors ever paid for the freeing of their chattel?

        My god if cows were freed, you know there’d have to be lots of money changing hands for their freedom to occur! And black slaves then were on the level that cows are now.

        But yet cows would cause a lot less problems if let into the wild than Africans did when let loose into white society (at least cows would have been quietly eaten by those wolves who survived the progrom against them.)

      • C_C_Conrad

        What about blacks that owned other blacks?

        ………
        Jack’s War

        • falsedawn

          Yes, I bring that little tidbit of free black slaveowners in our south every chance I get. I also bring up the fact American Indians owned black slaves as well.

          • C_C_Conrad

            Of course the anti-whites will ignore all of that because their aim is about taking whitey for everything that he has. What we are seeing is not about what whites DID TO someone else, it’s about what will be DONE TO whites. There are ONLY two groups in this struggle, pro-white and pro-white-genocide.
            ………….
            Jack’s War

          • Daisy

            Actually there were even white, irish slaves in the caribbean owned by blacks. And let’s not forget the african leaders who sold the slaves to begin with…do they chip in?

      • 5n4k33y35

        I can barely imagine being responsible for the care of blacks. Perhaps it was motivated by Christian altruism that they would try to civilize the savage and get some work done at the same time.

        As for the Africans, selling slaves was a cheap method of colonization from a society in which life was short and brutish. They probably knew those on the other end of the bargain would regret it. In any case, it was a horrible idea.

        • refocus

          Was it not the King of England who really brought the slaves to America?

          First with the poor whites his dragoons kidnabbed, then with the unfortunate blacks?

    • dmxinc

      It’s even worse than what you state.

      EVERY black and white American who can trace their lineage to pre-Civil War, owes their very existence to slavery. It’s the Butterfly Effect.

      What are the odds that any of us would be alive today without events unfolding exactly as they have? Answer: almost zero.

      Conyers claim would be similar to the child conceived during a rape suing the rapist. It’s ludicrous. The rape victim has a case, but the child? The child wouldn’t even exist if the rape hadn’t occurred. Slavery is horrible, as rape is horrible, but those who are owed anything due to American slavery have long since passed.

  • FourFooted_Messiah

    What? Haven’t you Americans paid and aplogized enough? Those blacks – who were captured by other blacks during war, then sold to Arabs through their slave market networks, and then ultimately sold to unwitting Brits and Americans – would any North American black today really give up their First World existence – and their computers, phones, and iPads – to go back to Stone Age Africa of their purported venerated ancestors? Hardly, any more than any Amerind would want to go back to his ancestors’ stone age heritage with no guns, or steel traps, Ski-Doos or proper central heating.

    Next time you meet a whiny Black, make sure you ask him, “Well, if it weren’t for the ARAB slave trade you wouldn’t be here, Do you now hate ARABS? And also, if your slave ancestor had been slave to Muslims, you wouldn’t exist because Muslims like to cut the nuts off their male slaves. At least, the Americans let your ancestor keep his nuts! And would you really like to be poster baby for Christian Children’s Network? THOUGHT NOT!”

    • MerlinV

      Ah, the Atheist returns. Please keep interjecting religion into the forum. It was just so dull until Karl Marx showed up.

    • MerlinV

      Were you aware of the fact that Mr. Taylor’s parents were Christian missionaries? Were you aware of the fact that Mr. Taylor said that the traditional religions of the West would be respected on this website? How ’bout you Mod?

      • http://www.amren.com/ Moderator

        No line of civility has yet been crossed.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jessica-Bates/100000284781928 Jessica Bates

          May I?

          • http://www.amren.com/ Moderator

            January 5.

      • FourFooted_Messiah

        What, you’re upset I mentioned a Charity by name? It’s one of the most popular ones that show up on the ads on TV, and one of the reasons I do not have a TV – I do not want to pay to see shows riddled with African pandhandlers, hosted by some white idiot. It was bad enough when television was free over the air. It’s not any more, and I don’t see why I should pay to see advertisements of any stripe.

        • http://www.facebook.com/ono.udont Ono Udont

          Well said, Messiah

    • http://www.newnation.org/ sbuffalonative

      Louis Gates JR was soundly attacked for his program Wonders of the African World for interviewing black Africans about their role in the slave trade:

      http://www.pbs.org/wonders/

      He has since become persona non-grata in the black community. His only support now comes from whites.

      • liberalsuck

        Wasn’t this the same Louis Gates that gave that officer crap a few years ago? The infamous ‘Beer Summit’?

        • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

          I’m still advancing the theory, which I’ve long and oft repeated here, that Gates wanted a conflagration with the Cambridge P.D. — It’s just that he didn’t expect to be arrested. And he wanted a conflict because he wanted publicity. And he wanted publicity because he was fast becoming a nobody in black studies kookville — Cornel West et al. were stealing his oxygen.

          • robinbishop34

            West has made a career out of saying the word ‘oligarchy.’ I’m not even sure he knows what it means.

      • saxonsun

        Yes, I read an article by him on this matter. He boldly said that we have to stop blaming only whites for the slave trade; he stated we must be honest about the huge black role in this event and that the trade was successful because of blacks who sold their own kind.

    • blight14

      Who owned/operated the nine known ‘slave’ ships? Look that one up…….granted, they are related genetically to the ‘Arabs’…….

  • OlderWoman

    Then Israelis should sue blacks for reparations for the four hundred years they were enslaved by them in Egypt.

    • The__Bobster

      The Egyptians weren’t moolies.

    • http://www.newnation.org/ sbuffalonative

      Even Haaretz concedes there are no historical facts the Israelites were ever slaves in Egypt:

      Were Jews ever really slaves in Egypt, or is Passover a myth?

      Where is the real proof – archeological evidence, state records and primary sources?

      http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/the-jewish-thinker/were-jews-ever-really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.420844

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

        The most credible archaeological scholarship seems to indicate that the very existence of Israel came from a combination of internally rebellious Canaanites combined with random escaped slaves from New Kingdom Egypt. There is not any archeological evidence for a mass Moses style exodus out of Egypt, (or for the existence of Moses at all), or any real evidence of the existence of an “Abrahamic” nation before that point.

        • MikeofAges

          Unlike in the case of that other world religion, our Christian and Jewish scholars are willing to take a sharp look at the reality of all claims in our scriptures and other traditional histories. I personally am 100 percent convinced that there was an historical Jesus,a man, Jesus of Nazareth, who preached against the established religious and secular order. Whether the rest of the story was, well, the gospel truth, I cannot say as a matter of historical fact.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            There are at least four secular historical sources of the time which confirm the existence of Jesus of Nazareth. I highly doubt there are any formal records of his death penalty — The Roman imperial governors crucified whoever they wanted, and they did it so often, especially in what Rome thought were the troublesome areas off the eastern end of the Mediterranean, that it didn’t behoove them to keep records thereof.

            Christians and Jews are generally far better than that “other” noteworthy world religion in being able to live with the “contradiction” of the infallibility of their holy text and the increasing body of legitimate science. For instance, how can I take the Bible literally when it makes numerous soft implications of geocentric cosmology, yet I know full well from science proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the Earth is not the center of a universe which really has no center? The answer is that the Bible is true in describing the conceptual framework of ancient human beings to whom the text was inspired. Concluding a geocentric cosmology was easy for most people, in fact most educated people, through a majority of human history. (Too, we live on our own planet, we live with its gravity and we’re moving through the universe in all the ways we are at exactly the same speed that our planet’s own gravity is moving. In fact, as Einsteinian physics postulates, gravity isn’t so much a force as it is mass bending space itself, so the “gravity” we feel is merely us living in bent space thanks to the Earth’s mass bending the space.) Some Ancient Greeks were able to figure out that the Earth and the other planets revolved around the Sun, but their knowledge and evidence was lost for a very long time.

            In other news, comma, Marco Rubio, and to all this whom may concern, the Earth is ca. 4.5-4.6 bn years old in ca. 14 bn yo universe. Memorize it. Repeat what you just memorized when media come at you with clown questions to ambush you. It’s not hard to memorize!

      • saxonsun

        There were no Hebrew slaves in Egypt–the Egyptians built there own pyramids. We have discovered the ruins of villages set up just for the builders.

        • David Ashton

          I don’t know whether your blanket denial of Hebrew slaves in Egypt is correct or not, but have any Israelis had the chutzpah to ask its present population for reparations? Just curious, not making a “point”.

    • Liberalsuck

      Don’t you mean 4000 years ago?

      • OlderWoman

        They were enslaved for four hundred years.

  • Achaean

    This question should be dismissed outright; the best thing that happened to blacks was American slavery; fine, it was pretty rough on the transatlantic trip, but once they arrived they were better off here as slaves than in Africa; and, if not in all instances, they were certainly great beneficiaries of white civilization in due course. To the contrary: it is the whites who should get reparations, that’s the response we should give; give us reparations for your crime rates, welfare, and opportunities in sports, easy education, government jobs, and acting. Reparations is a way to masked persistent black failures despite a century of white benevolence.

    • FourFooted_Messiah

      Amen and hallelujiah from an atheist. Your post speaks more truth than all the holy books in existence.

      • Germanacus

        Especially the Talmud.

    • liberalsuck

      I am more angered at guilt-ridden whites and whites who don’t stand up to this than I am the blacks who are pushing for this. It’s like the saying, ‘Fool me once, shame on me. Fool you twice, shame on you.”

      • Whitey

        Black people can’t help but be black. Whites who associate with blacks, they basically choose to be that way. You can’t get mad at a dog for barking, it is simply it’s nature, but we all know the cat shouldn’t be doing it.

  • PesachPatriot

    Weren’t the 300 thousand dead white guys in itchy blue wool uniforms buried around the country enough? Why do multimillionaires like Oprah, Jamie Foxx, Michael Jordan, Jay Z and Beyonce need to take food out of my kids mouth? No one in my family ever owned a single slave and they got the free boat ride too…my ancestors had to pay for their trip to America. This will go nowhere….it would be funny to give the urban demographic each 40 acres and a mule just to see what they would do with it. Sam makes some pretty good points. Jail is obviously not much of a deterrent to them, maybe reparations is the best way to finally solve the problem. I doubt that many NFL or NBA players would be very interested in being a quarterback in Zimbabwe or a point guard in Sierra Leone.

    • 5n4k33y35

      No joke. I have not one scintilla of white guilt mentality. As a matter of fact, I’m about ready to collect reparations from all the aggrieved blacks and all the Jews who take their side.

    • http://www.newnation.org/ sbuffalonative

      Exactly.
      Blacks may not like Confederate history but why is it they never celebrate or even acknowledge Union history and the sarifice these men made for the black narrative of the war against slavery.
      In a karmic sense, maybe the reasons blacks are stuck where they is because they have never said “thank you” to the white man.

      • PesachPatriot

        Well, as someone who grew up in the heart of Union territory I think the reason they dislike the north is because freedom forced them in to jobs, paying taxes(for a while anyway), voting, the draft and being responsible for themselves and their kids. Also, Lincoln, Sherman, MacLellan, Grant and many other famous Union commanders were not exactly enamored of the slaves. I think i remember reading something about some of the northern commanders actually having a bigger moral issue with secession than slavery. It boils down to the fact that they are ashamed that they didn’t really free themselves, white northerners did.

        Besides northern whites were unfairly privileged according to jesse and al…they had the privilege of being drafted right off the boat, the privilege of marching around Georgia and Mississippi in 90 degree heat while wearing itchy blue uniforms, the privilege of catching bullets, bayonets, cannonballs and dysentery, and the privilege of having limbs removed with the advanced medical technology of the day known as a hacksaw and whiskey.

      • John R

        OK. I have two replies to your statements:
        First. PLEASE! Are you serious??!!! Blacks THANKING whites for ANYTHING? It will never happen. Why? Because the whole thrust of liberalism is to shake us Whites down for everything. And that depends on adherence to a liberal line of reasoning that preaches-as Gospel-EVERYBODY OWES BLACKS; BLACKS OWE NOTHING TO WHITES. Did Lincoln free the blacks? No. They fought for their freedom; and he just needed more troops to fight to preseve the Union. Indeed, we should THANK THE BLACKS for doing that for us. Did Johnson end Jim Crow giving the blacks civil rights? No. The blacks fought for their civil rights. Indeed, all other groups-even Whites(?)-owe their freedom to black civil rights protestors (yep, that’s liberalism!).
        Now, as to blacks not progressing because they never thanked the White man. Hmmm, maybe SOME truth, perhaps. But don’t go too far with that. It could almost be used as another, conservative version to be sure, of the many excuses used for black failure. I for one have heard too many of them. Frankly my dear, I don’t give a d#$n on that. We must be more concerned about White success, not black failure. We must keep the focus on our people.
        I respect your views. I believe your heart is in the right place. But re-think your comments, please. Thank you.

  • Susan

    They have had reparations for years now,it is called taxes on whites to fund black entitlements. Our paychecks keep shrinking and their welfare is expanding.Makes me wonder what will happen in2014 with the obamacare taxes.When will this end?

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      One of the reasons we were told we have to implement the UnGreatFul Society package of welfare programs in the 1960s was that they would act as a form of reparations for black slavery.

  • guest

    They must like looking and feeling like perpetual victims because they know it will mean goodbye to their free handouts if they go beyond the status of victims of prejudice and racism. And these politicians really need to grow a spine and stop giving in to their insatiable demands.

    • edwina

      it’s you that is looking like perpetual victims

  • Seek

    There is only one reparations program that I could support in good conscience: a voluntary repatriation program. Call it the Lincoln-Garvey-Bilbo Plan. It actually could work on a limited scale.
    Anyone familiar with the history of the sordid business of trans-Atlantic slave-running knows that the blacks we forcibly brought over from Africa were bought from other blacks. We didn’t “make” them into slaves. They already were owned. Why doesn’t Rep. Conyers hit the descendants of these original owners for money instead? Gee, take a wild guess.

    • MikeofAges

      And while you’re at it, hit the British, French, Dutch, Spanish and Portuguese. Oh, and did I forget Saudi Arabia? So sorry.

  • So CAL Snowman

    So what is going to happen when they get the “reparations money” spend it all in a month on spinning rims, and bling and are broke as a joke and back at square one?

    • Skincognito

      But what if they spend it on land, guns and marriage licenses?! We’re all doomed!

      • http://www.facebook.com/ono.udont Ono Udont

        That’s an awful big “what if”

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      They’re already one step ahead of us on that. The mulatto black “intellectual” elite have already made the determination that the average black person should NOT get the actual reparations checks, because just the sight of the check will, in sort of a PTSD sense, bring back all the trauma of slavery that that and that alone will cause the average black to waste the reparations check on junk and bling. So instead, the mulattos want reparation money to be diverted to black “nation building” funds.

      Translation: Black mulatto “intellectuals” know full well what we “bigots” know about ghetto blacks. So they’re dreaming up this cock and bull excuse about PTSD to get reparations money diverted into a supergiant slush fund which black mulatto “intellectuals” will exclusively control and shovel among themselves.

      • OlderWoman

        ‘…black “nation building” funds.’ This is a new development. What on earth have we been paying to them? Black “community destroying” funds?

        • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

          “Black nation building funds” = A growing budget for the black studies department

      • gemjunior

        Yup. And then when there’s no money left for LaLeatrice and Quan’tavious, guess whose fault it would be?

        • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

          That’s probably the scam they’ll try to pull — Get a reparations bill passed in the dark of night such that LeLeatrice and Quan’tavious won’t ever know about it. You know, just like the fake fiscal cliff bill in the Senate was passed — Introduced at 1:36 AM, passed at 1:39 AM.

          • gemjunior

            I think that’s how the Federal Reserve was established, that the bill was passed in the same way with nobody there on Christmas Eve at 1 in the morning – or maybe it was the income tax. You’re perfectly right though, that IS possible. And really scary. I wish that such a bill could be passed to repatriate all back to the place where there is no racism, no white man, no discrimination, no white “privilege”: Africa, that paradise “rich in history” (LOL) away from evil whitey and his horrible culture.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rusty-Shackelford/1434757800 Rusty Shackelford

      They’d spend every last penny. It would be both a reparations bill and an economic stimulus bill. And then one lucky buck can go back to the rim shop, kill the owner, and get the money back. Infinite money!!

      • Luca

        They of course would spend some of the money on drugs and the resulting OD deaths would of course be blamed on us for giving them so much money all at once. Then we would have to pay more money for our “predatory” reparations program.

    • Johnny Clay

      If you gave reparations, especially to low-income “ghetto” blacks, they’d be just as poor in 5 years, having spent it all on trinkets and not saving it.

      • Svigor

        That seems to be a common theme in this discussion. It kinda reminds me of the days of company towns when laborers were paid in scrip and had to spend it at the company store, except on a national level. If you stop and listen, you can hear the sound of merchants laughing up their sleeves in unison.

        At bottom, the only stipulation we need written in stone (e.g., Constitutional Amendment) is that any reparations negotiation constitute the beginning and the end of the thing; once settlement is made, that’s it, reparations are done, and the issue cannot be raised again. As long as they can’t bring it up again and again at will, we win, because even a fat cash settlement will swiftly wind up back in white pockets – the “company store,” if you will.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jessica-Bates/100000284781928 Jessica Bates

    Although I’m a fan of Amren, and a staunch race-realist, I must say I feel terribly about how the blacks were treated in this country. I believe in giving them reparations. In fact, as expensive as it would be, and I think we would all have to sacrifice, I would like to give every black (and mulatto) man, woman and child a ticket on Virgin Galactic’s Space Plane:

    http://www.virgingalactic.com/

    (but I would set the controls for the Sun– shhhhhhh nobody tell– they couldn’t read the controls anyway)

  • The__Bobster
  • anarchyst

    Cassius Clay once said that he was “glad his grandpappy got on than boat” . . .

    • edwina

      like the guy said above, they want it all………… that’s the price.

    • liberalsuck

      He sure showed his thanks by openly hating white people and joining the Nation of Islam. (sarcasm)

  • bobwms

    THE DEMANDS WILL NEVER EVER END.

  • Ernest

    I don’t care that they were slaves. So what? Reparations my rear end.

    • 5n4k33y35

      That was cheeky of you but inadvisable, because they have a saying “different strokes for different folks”.

  • MerlinV

    Yep, now is the time to get all these things going full-on with the Kenyan in control. Look for more of this during Obama unleashed part II.

  • MikeofAges

    One problem. Whatever is true will always be true. You can apologize until you run out of chapstick and pay reparations down to your last nickel, and whatever was true before you started will still be true after. Black Africans were brought here and held as chattel slaves performing uncompensated labor. Nothing will ever change that fact.

    • edwina

      there’s also the matter of who captured them? sold them? what they have or have not done with their freedom and 20 trillion $

    • http://www.facebook.com/ono.udont Ono Udont

      and your point is?

      • MikeofAges

        Exactly what I said. Reparations will change nothing.

    • Frans Duncan

      And I don’t care. It happened. So what. All kinds of flagrantly abusive things have happened to all races throughout history. We intelligent, strong survivors have gotten on with life and have been successful without whining and expecting handouts.

    • Luca

      They were compensated with food, housing, medicine, modern civilized culture and conveniences not found in their stone-age homeland. They were cared for when they were too young or too old to work. They were better off than their poor white neighbors who labored just as hard and had none of the safety nets the slaves had.

      I don’t expect compensation for work my grandfather performed when he was a grossly underpaid immigrant, so why should anyone else?

    • Ernest

      Black Africans were brought here and held as chattel slaves performing uncompensated labor. Nothing will ever change that fact.

      So what?

      • MikeofAges

        The “what” is, nothing you can do will change that fact of history. It will always be true no matter what you do. So, no point in responding to the demand for reparations. Not to mention, there never will be reparations anyway. It’s just another something to whine about. In my mind, the idea is another front for the idea that whitey should perpetually finance dysfunctional village socialism for black Americans.

        For example, look at the principles of the fake holiday Kwanzaa. Put aside the pychosis (literally) of the guy who started the idea. Just look at the “principles” with an objective eye. A couple of them are good ideas for anyone. Taken together, they are a recipe for gridlock and dysfunction. Maybe the descendants of chattel slaves will never fit in. Everyone else who is here is descended from someone who had the stones, or at least the common sense, to take off from where they were before privation or the latest episode of mass murder ended their life. Even Natives are descended from people who left Asia under their own power.

      • Svigor

        Blacks seem to be the only continental-level race on Earth incapable of achieving a modicum of civilization. There’s no “fixing” that.

        The fact is, “white supremacy” like the institution of slavery, colonialism, or some other strong hand is the proven method to get best results from blacks. Slavery’s the only way to make them economically viable, basically.

    • OlderWoman

      That isn’t true. Many black families had small homes and some land provided by their owner. They could farm the land for their food, but a certain percentage was to be paid to the owner for rent. You’ve bought the black version of slavery. Here in the South we know that only a small percentage of whites even owned slaves. Generally they were well-provided for by the plantation owner. They weren’t abused, they were treated like children. You cannot abuse people then expect them to work. Stop with the propaganda.

  • The Ice Queen

    Whatever they think we owe them, we have already paid. We have paid with blood, lost security, plummeting home values, long commutes, lost jobs due to affirmative action, increased taxes to pay for welfare, police, medical, education, lawsuits, not to mention the millions of Federal and State programs to give them a leg up, much of it to no avail. That is just the tip of it. The cost to White Americans is incalculable. It isn’t just monetary. How can you measure the loss of a loved one murdered by a black criminal? How can you measure the misery and constant fear a little White child experiences in a Black neighborhood? What about the hardworking qualified White guy whose family and finances fall apart because he was passed over for a job in the name of diversity? Aside from monetary damages, there are the psychological and emotional costs many Whites have suffered from losses, direct and indirect, whether due to AA, the high criminality rate of Blacks, or the constant reshuffling to accommodate or avoid them. They have cost us everything. I say they owe us. I’d even say they are in the hole.

    • Enar_Larsson

      Don’t forget about the bloodiest war in American history and with it the death of the republic. Also, our Constitutional freedoms of assembly, speech, and association.

      • The Ice Queen

        I was thinking about that too. How many White men lost their lives in the Civil War, not returning home to start a family? Generations of Whites do not exist because of that war.

        • rebelcelt

          Do not forget ww1 and ww2. How many whites of all countries died in that stupidity. It came down to who would have the biggest empire the Germans or the Brits. The germans started to win so the U.S. jumped in.

          • Svigor

            The Reds gobbled up half of Europe and the Brits and Americans didn’t seem to mind. If they’d had any sense they would have let the Nazis and the Reds finish one another first.

    • guest

      It’s like dealing with spoiled little children. No matter how much we give to them, they will never be satisfied. They will continue to demand for more and more and more until eventually there really won’t be anything more that can be given to them. And even when that happens, they’ll still continue to say that they’re owed and entitled to something. It will always be one greedy and selfish demand after another.

  • ATBOTL

    The blacks will get reparations at some point if whites don’t organize racially and take America back. They will probably work out a deal whereby blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Jews, American Indians and Muslims all get some kind of payout.

    • Puggg

      This is probably the most important comment on this thread. We can and do have all the facts and reason and logic on our side, but it won’t matter to the ultimate outcome because the effort to get reparations is naked racial politics, and therefore, the effort to resist them must also be our naked racial politics. Full stop. Forget about logic and consistency for awhile.

    • Ernest

      “The blacks will get reparations at some point if whites don’t organize racially and take America back.”

      Absolutely! We will not only pay reparations but we will lose it all if whites don’t stand up as whites.

    • refocus

      They will probably work out a deal whereby blacks, Hispanics, Asians,
      Jews, American Indians and Muslims all get some kind of payout.

      In perpetuity… or until the last white has his back broken.

      • Svigor

        I was thinking for the umpteenth time last night about how liberals want us to save the snail darter and the spotted owl and the ozone layer, but we whites can go $#^@ ourselves and don’t deserve to survive; in fact, the very idea is tantamount to Satanism in the eyes of liberals.

        Then I was thinking, again not for the first time, that I hope that five minutes after the last white man on Earth expels his final breath, the Death Star rolls up and turns this planet into a cloud of dust.

  • C_C_Conrad

    I think that some people here are missing the point. They don’t really want reparations, they want everything, the entire country. Why not they have whitey on the run and they know it.
    ……….
    Jack’s War
    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=jack%27s+War

  • http://www.facebook.com/ono.udont Ono Udont

    We should’ve picked our own cotton. Would’ve saved a lot of money and grief

    • Liberalsuck

      If and when we break off into a white nation, we should force our young whites to do the manual crappy jobs and make it so businesses can do business here. Drop the “minimum wage laws” and make it unprofitable and impose a hefty penalty for every illegal they hire. Whites used to do those fast food jobs and restaurant jobs and service jobs in the past.

    • Daisy

      It wasn’t my white people’s cotton…

  • John R

    Slavery reparations? OK. I know most on this site find the
    idea ridiculous, as do I. But here is where I find it disturbing, anyway.

    Think about it. Africans enslaved their own people. Their way
    of life was savage from the start, by European standards. The slaves were
    bought by White people, and sold here in America. Here we fought a war-our
    bloodiest-in part to free them. Their descendants are citizens of this great
    country, a country that even millions of Europeans struggled to immigrate to.
    Immigration until the 1960’s favored persons of European stock; ergo, without
    the institution of slavery, it is probable that few persons of African heritage
    would have immigrated to the United States.

    Despite this, the United States felt, especially in the
    1960’s, to spend millions of dollars to wage “War on Poverty” this despite the
    fact that blacks in the United States were already better off than blacks in
    any other country in the world. And especially better off than black people in
    the continent of Africa. Additionally, America’s cities have deteriorated into
    slums, their tax bases being depleted and crime problems turning some
    neighborhoods into war zones. All this caused by America’s large urban black
    population. Many victims of black crime and violence were black; but many were
    white. Indeed the presence of the black criminal element has caused whites to
    flee our once great cities.

    What does this have to do with Reparations? Simple: WHY ARE
    WE EVEN DISCUSSING OWING BLACK PEOPLE??? Isn’t it really black people that owe
    the United States? Where else are they better off? What have we, as white
    Americans, ever “taken” away from them? They have taken from us. We all know
    this. But the Reparations talk serves as a distraction. While we talk about
    what we owe the blacks, we are forgetting everything this country has done for
    them, and what they have cost us. It is just another way to soften whites for a
    list of more “reasonable” demands. I demand your car, then I say, all right; I
    just want your wallet.

    • FourFooted_Messiah

      Minor correction – Africans sold their prisoners of tribal battles to Arabs, who then sold them to whites at their auction markets.

      The left wants everyone to think that Whitey was hunting down slaves in the African jungle, and that couldn’t be further from the truth.

  • razorrare

    Both psychologically and materially Whites in modern times are called upon to bear burdens of guilt and monetary reparation for negro slavery.This position is based entirely on forced ignorance and the deliberate suppression of the record of White slavery in North America.Hundreds of thousands of Whites hadd been enslaved during the colonial era in America while millions of others were too poor to afford even a mule much less a black slave.

    Slave reparations and guilty feelings are due–if one subscribes to such a thing as retroactive collective guilt–from the descendants of the minority of wealthy Whites(mostly jewish) whoowned negro slaves and who,in the South at least,were generally reduced to penury in the aftermath of the Civil War.Reparations would also have to be paid by the descendants of the Cherokee and other American Indian tribes who owned black slaves and by the heirs of black tribal leaders in Africa who sold them into slavery.
    Reparations must also be paid,if the logic of the situation is to be consistent,to the modern-day White descendants of the White slaves of early America.
    The whole discussion of negro slavery,Southern racism and the Civil War as currently framed by the Establishment agenda,necessarily must exclude any examination of the fact of White slavery,especially in the 17th and 18th centuries,and the condition of free White poor in the 19th century forced to compete against negro slave labor in the South.
    The whole apparatus of the institution of human slavery in English-speaking America,which has been searingly memorialized in the voluminous literature on negro slavery,was first put into place in the enslavement of Whites who were kidnapped in their native land,died on board ship,suffered child slavery and separation of parents from chiildren forever;endured fugitive slave-laws,the banning of White slave meetings and severe and extreme corporal punishment,sometimes unto death.
    The motivation of the cover-up of the extent of White slavery by Establishment-funded and approved house scholars is obvious.To admit the true history of White slavery and record it faithfully in modern history is to furnish empirical evidence that White skin does not necessarily embody power or status;that the poor White of today who is forced to subsidize with his taxes and job prospects,so that blacks may be compensated for slavery,in reality owes nobody for anything.
    They Were White and They Were Slaves–The Untold History of the Enslavement of Whites in Early America…by Michael A. Hoffman II

    • razorrare

      It is estimated that 500,000 White Ukranians and Russian children have been kidnapped and forced into slavery by the jewish run Red Mafiya…why shouldnt the Israeli state be held responsible for paying reparations to those families whose children have been taken from them and forced to serve as sex slaves?….Where is the collective Jewish guilt at for their part in 2000 years and more of slavery…why is it that only Whites must bear “collective guilt.”?

      • FourFooted_Messiah

        Never mind that, you never hear about arab-on-black slavery, but it still goes on (even after Saudi Arabia outlawed it to appease the West in _1965_.

        • razorrare

          Oh, I see…you expect this White racialist realist to be more concerned over the history of black slavery than the history of the historical record of White slavery,of my own people…it is clear atheist and liberals have much in common…their rose pink sentimentalism for other races besides their own…unless of course you are black.

          The stereotype from Establishment consensus history is of the Muslim slaver herding chained blacks through the desert.In fact for 700 years,until the fall of Muslim Spain,those being herded were first and foremost overwhelmingly White:

          “Before the tenth centuury the muslims generally bought Christian Europeans as slaves…By the tenth century,Slavs became the most numerous imported group…during the late Middle Ages,until the fall of Granada in the late 15th century,most of the slaves of the …Muslims were Christians from the northern kingdoms…(William Phillips,p.69)…Slavery is an invention of the jews…Sam Francis quoted some old testament verses related to the same(where its acceptable for jews to have gentile slaves but not jewish slaves) and for that he was fired by the Washington Times.It was jews who were selling White slaves to their genetic cousins the Arabs.

          “In the vast lands of the eastern European steppes from the eighth to the twelfth century,there was a well developed slaving network…Slavs and Finns,called saqaliba(slaves) indiscriminately by the muslims,entered the muslim world by these Caspian and Black sea routes.”(William Phillips,pp.63-64

          The fate of the hundreds of thousands of White slaves sold to the Arabs(semites) was described in one Spanish text as “atrocissima et ferocissima”(most atrocious and harsh).The men were worked to death as galley slaves.The women ,girls and boys were used as prostititutes.

          White males had their genitals mutilated in castration attempts–bloody procedures of incredible brutality which most of the White men were forced to submit did not survive,judging from the high pricees White eunuchs commanded throughout the Middle Eastern slave markets.

          Escape from North Africa and the Middle east was almost impossible and those White slaves who were caught trying to flee were punished by having their ears and noses cut off,or worse.

          Early muslim texts provide insights into the extent to which the arabs identified Europeans with slavery,classified White slaves as animals and even produced learned racist disquisitions on the supposed merits of emasculated East European slaves.In his ninth treatise on beasts,The Book of Animals,the muslim scholar Jahiz writes:

          “Another change which overcomes the eunuch:of two slaves of Slavic race,who are…twins,one castrated and the other not,the eunuch becomes more disposed toward service,wiser,more able,and apt for various problems of manual labor…All these qualities you find in the castrated one.On the other hand,his brother continues to have the same native torpor,the same lack of natural talent,the same imbecility common to slaves,and incapacity for learning a foreign language.”(Charles Verlinden,The Slave in Medieval Europe,vol. 1,p.213).

          • FourFooted_Messiah

            yes, I know all about Muslim slavery of whites, and THAT still goes on, too. I know about the slave raids on places as far flung as Irish fishing villages, yes.

            But the topic at hand was the enslavement of blacks, not of us whites.

          • razorrare

            The topic at hand being discussed is reparations for blacks…should they or should they not receive reparations…

            So you became a 5 year old atheist by looking at a childrens book with a picture of the flood…what did you expecct Noah to do?

          • razorrare

            Tit for tat…you come and stand by the graves of my loved ones and declare there is no God and i will physically kick your ***.

          • FourFooted_Messiah

            Noah was just a man. I expected the do-it-all magical pixie to just delete the humans that were bothering him, not torturing eveything on earth just because humans were jerks.

            Nope, not a vegetarian, I explained somewhere else why not (biologically impossible to eat most plants, they make me sick.)

            I said I only don’t beleive in it because MOST CHRISTIANS believe that heaven is only for humans. If you don’t, THEN YOU ARE NOT INCLUDED IN “MOST CHRISTIANS”, and I admire you for that now, thanks.

            AND I LOVE CHRISTMAS.

            Can we get along now with no snarky sniping? I see right now you’re NOT one of those who would have turned me off. and if YOU had been running that stupid Sunday School, you might have come up with a GOOD ANSWER.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            1. “Noah” as such probably didn’t exist. There may have been some cataclysmic flood event in very ancient human history. The version told in the OT and a lot of other tellings in a lot of other books and spoken mouth tales seems to indicate that something happened.

            2. A unified particle theory (aka String Theory) might well explain “ghosts,” and as well as a bunch of other weird stuff. It might be a Rosetta Stone to solve a lot of “paranormal” mysteries. Thereby putting Art Bell and George Noory out of business.

            3. Christianity has not jettisoned predestination to the extent you think it has. Calvinists definitely believe in it when you press them, and if you want to fiddle around with semantics, other Christian sects and denominations that are not purely low Protestant church “born again” theology churches could be said to believe in “predestination.”

          • FourFooted_Messiah

            1. I was simply accepting the character as for what he was supposed to be. Real or not, a man is a man, and limited. Geology gives no evidence for a world-wide flood – it’s just a story, but a story doesn’t have to be true to be important. I get the point of the story – God got angry at man, God wipes out ALL LIFE on Earth (whch is the stupid bit) just because he’s angry at a bunch of stupid apes he made the mistake of making, and then apologizes and says he won’t do it again (a just-so story about rainbows, just as Gen 2 contains a just-so story about snakes in with the morality lesson.)

            2) I’m aware of sting theory, but not in relation to what you mentioned (ie, an explanation of ghosts.) I am interested, can you direct me to somewhere I can learn more about it, whether a website or library book or something I can access.

            3) Well, ok, I might be thinking of Catholics. I don’t usually consider Calvinists and other oddballs. The Calvanists around here are called Hutterites, and they’re bloody thiefy.

          • OlderWoman

            ‘…Geology gives no evidence for a world-wide flood…’

            I beg to differ. There are Christian geologists who have proven the likelihood of a universal flood. Google Walter Veith for his videos. But, then since you claim to be an atheist…..
            By the way, my brother-in-law is an atheist. He fears the mention of Jesus Christ and grows violently angry at the mention of scripture. I believe that’s an interesting way to behave toward something one doesn’t claim to believe.
            I think atheists are fraudulent like leftists usually are. I believe they’re always focused on themselves…they are the center of the universe in their minds.

          • razorrare

            As a child i visited Ruby Falls and was told this mountain at one moment in time was under water which had created the caves and rock formations…

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Falls

          • razorrare

            Good to hear you love Christmas…i posted this link a few days ago concerning an article Pat Buchanan had written called Christmas in an Anti–Christian age…you may find it thought provoking…If you find the time read Pat Buchanan’s latest book…Suicide of a Super-Power…It may help give you a better understanding of the importance of Christianity and the role it plays in preserving western culture…

            http://buchanan.org/blog/christmas-in-an-anti-christian-age-5440

          • OlderWoman

            Just to insert some information here, Arthur C. Clarke was a well-known pedophile who lived in Indonesian because there were few restrictions on sex with children. I’d avoid having him as an authority on God considering his perversion.

          • gemjunior

            Um, the reason that Noah took a pair of each species (one of each sex) was to save them so after the flood God’s creations could flourish again. The humans were the ones punished for their behavior. What sort of book showed all the animals drowning while Noah and his family looked down from the ark? That’s a weird thing for a book to focus on. The focus should have been on the punishment for human behavior; animals were totally innocent of wrongdoing and always will be. The Christian teaching of animals without souls is to teach the understanding that animals are incapable of guilt or of wrongdoing. So they don’t have free will to “choose” whether to behave rightly or wrongly. They don’t do anything “wrong” – if a dog bites someone it is not attributed to malice but to self-protection or protecting someone the animal loves. I don’t know about dogs not having soul. It seems impossible to me that an animal that expresses such love and loyalty can possibly be without a soul.

          • David Ashton

            The main problem I have with the Biblical Deluge is its universality and estimated time-scale. It is scarcely credible that all the air-breathing creatures and the diverse human races on the earth today could all have descended from the inhabitants in the “ark”.

          • anarchyst

            Noah’s Ark was a DNA bank . . .

          • David Ashton

            What was its date?

          • Michael_C_Scott

            My dog Gregor had a soul. I think it was my sister who taught him in this respect.

          • Liberalsuck

            I don’t like the atheist movement here in the US and in the West. It’s nothing but ripping on white Christian conservatives or Mormons. They don’t rip on black churches or Mexican Catholic churches or muslims the same they mock Christianity or Mormonish or Amish people simply because those religious people are white. I’ve been around white liberal atheists. They’ll whine about some restaurant having ‘bible quotes’ or the fact that the In and Out Burger chain is owned by Mormons. I once said, “Would it be ok for me to point out a bagel deli was ‘owned by a bunch of damn jews’? Would it be ok for me to complain about a 7-11 because it was owned by Muslims?” Liberals aren’t anti-racist; they are anti-white. They aren’t ‘against religon or a belief in God; they are against Christians, Mormons and Amish because their members are mostly white and conservative.

          • PesachPatriot

            why would someone get upset about mormons and amish? I think some mormon and amish beliefs are odd, but they don’t bother me enough to get irate about it. Most mormons live in Utah and most amish live in PA and Ohio…if someone really dislikes them that still leaves 47 other states to live in without a single mormon or amish person in them. I think its interesting how atheism now has adherents who are as fanatic as any religious fundamentalists.

        • razorrare

          Oh, I see…you expect this White Christian to be more concerned over the history of black slavery than the history of the historical record of White slavery,of my own people…it is clear atheist and liberals have much in common…their rose pink sentimentalism for other races besides their own…unless of course you are black.

          The stereotype from Establishment consensus history is of the Muslim slaver herding chained blacks through the desert.In fact for 700 years,until the fall of Muslim Spain,those being herded were first and foremost overwhelmingly White:

          “Before the tenth centuury the muslims generally bought Christian Europeans as slaves…By the tenth century,Slavs became the most numerous imported group…during the late Middle Ages,until the fall of Granada in the late 15th century,most of the slaves of the …Muslims were Christians from the northern kingdoms…(William Phillips,p.69)…Slavery is an invention of the jews…Sam Francis quoted some old testament verses related to the same(where its acceptable for jews to have gentile slaves but not jewish slaves) and for that he was fired by the Washington Times.It was jews who were selling White slaves to their genetic cousins the Arabs.

          “In the vast lands of the eastern European steppes from the eighth to the twelfth century,there was a well developed slaving network…Slavs and Finns,called saqaliba(slaves) indiscriminately by the muslims,entered the muslim world by these Caspian and Black sea routes.”(William Phillips,pp.63-64

          The fate of the hundreds of thousands of White slaves sold to the Arabs(semites) was described in one Spanish text as “atrocissima et ferocissima”(most atrocious and harsh).The men were worked to death as galley slaves.The women ,girls and boys were used as prostititutes.

          White males had their genitals mutilated in castration attempts–bloody procedures of incredible brutality which most of the White men were forced to submit did not survive,judging from the high pricees White eunuchs commanded throughout the Middle Eastern slave markets.

          Escape from North Africa and the Middle east was almost impossible and those White slaves who were caught trying to flee were punished by having their ears and noses cut off,or worse.

          Early muslim texts provide insights into the extent to which the arabs identified Europeans with slavery,classified White slaves as animals and even produced learned racist disquisitions on the supposed merits of emasculated East European slaves.In his ninth treatise on beasts,The Book of Animals,the muslim scholar Jahiz writes:

          “Another change which overcomes the eunuch:of two slaves of Slavic race,who are…twins,one castrated and the other not,the eunuch becomes more disposed toward service,wiser,more able,and apt for various problems of manual labor…All these qualities you find in the castrated one.On the other hand,his brother continues to have the same native torpor,the same lack of natural talent,the same imbecility common to slaves,and incapacity for learning a foreign language.”(Charles Verlinden,The Slave in Medieval Europe,vol. 1,p.213).

          How about showing some concern for your fellow Whites private parts…even if they happen to be Christian.

      • razorrare

        Unable to reply to your last post to me in normal manner…unless your post shows up on the first page of either BEST–NEWEST–OLDEST my response to you wont show…therefore i am responding here…

        Good to hear you love Christmas…i posted this link a few days ago concerning an article Pat Buchanan had written called Christmas in an Anti–Christian age…you may find it thought provoking…If you find the time read Pat Buchanan’s latest book…Suicide of a Super-Power…It may help give you a better understanding of the importance of Christianity and the role it plays in preserving western culture…

        http://buchanan.org/blog/christmas-in-an-anti-christian-age-5440

      • David Ashton

        Documentation of these statistics please.

        • razorrare

          Actually those stats are way to conservative…its estimated that at least 400,000 just from one of the soviet blocs such as the Ukraine have been kidnapped or duped and forced into sex slavery just in the past decade.Honest jewish historians & jewish braggart historians are the most trusted sources of this sordid information…In the book “By Way of Deception” it is Victor Ostrovsky,(Claire Hoy is his writer of the book) an ex-mossad agent who relates in one of his chapters how young White boys and girls from Russia and other Soviet blocs like the Ukraine are targeted by Jewish run mafias who most often-times get their victims from orphanages…some of these unfortunate White children end up as sex slaves in Israels brothels serving Israels elite and those ambassadors from other nations who come for political/economical visits …these children he explains are kept in line by using a child who is not willing to co-operate by literally cutting their head off in front of all the other child sex slaves…you can google israel child sex slavery and will find it has been a very big problem…even Hillary Clinton to her credit brought the issue up of child sex slavery in Israel when her husband was president but of course no real action was taken to put pressure on them to correct the problem…

          Now,pertaining to my post that source of information can be found here…

          http://www.davidduke.com/?p=3738

          Before anyone calls me anti-sementic i will say this…if jews would be advocates for White interests i would be their biggest fan…most everything that our White racial group suffers from today is because of policies instituted by leftist-zionist jews who weild tremendous power here in America and around the world…the reason why you dont hear or need documentation to believe the same is self-evident how much our media is controlled by jewish-leftist ideology.What the Bolsheviks did to the Russians they are now slowly doing to us…

          • Daisy

            JohnEngleman, just so you know, told me on another thread on this website that “nobody,” meaning blacks, “hates [me] because [I] am white.”

          • razorrare

            Too bad we dont have an ignore button…he would be on the top of my list…he has stated many things that makes one wonder what is he doing on a site like this?….recently viewed a thread on the very top related to Economics..no.4…and read the comments between David Ashton & Engleman…This exchange between the two is reason enough to disregard anything that Engleman writes…I simply wont respond to him.

            example:

            JohnEngelman> David Ashton•19 days ago−

            Historically civilizations have benefited by learning from each other. Because the United States is a civilization deeply in decline, I am pleased to see that China is rising.

            I have always loved Chines people and Chinese civilization. I have always thought that Chinese women are beautiful.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

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            David Ashton> JohnEngelman•18 days ago

            Well, well!
            Doesn’t your you-tube recommendation tell us even more about you? “The East is Red” – a tribute to Mao and the Communist Party. Not quite as impressive as “Triumph of the Will” and much less “sincere”, given that it was produced in 1964, between the man-made famine (which required food imports from the wicked west) and the cultural revolution (which killed a few million more).
            Why you don’t start your own website “Chinese Renaissance” since you think America is finished?

          • David Ashton

            Thanks for the references and comments.
            I have since found quite a lot of information on adult & child trafficking and the sexual slavery aspect, even from “official” sources. This modern slavery is what people should be concerned about, not the plantations of centuries ago.

          • razorrare

            I agree,modern slavery is what people should be concerned about…my comments on White slavery was an argument against any form of special reparations for blacks…and Thankyou for your response.

          • Daisy

            Yes, and who are the chief traffickers…could it be…TCP…I think so…but if you peruse any of the tribe’s online newsletters you will hear zero about that, only of the itinerant tripe about the unending slavery of blacks in the US, Also check out their trafficking in human organs. I too want to thank you for posting some excellent links…

          • razorrare

            Red Mafia,,,The Promised Land of Organized Crime…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3GMDcFOq0g

          • razorrare

            Red Mafiya…The Promised Land of Organized Crime…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3GMDcFOq0g

  • razorrare

    Blacks have been raping our women and murdering our men and they want more reparations??? Its Whites who should be receiving reparations from those responsible for Brown vs Board of Education–Civil Rights Act and Immigration act of 1965–Affirmative action–Forced integration–promotion of multiculti-racialism and miscegenation…crime stats on rape and murder clearly spells out just who is richly deserving of reparations!!

    • razorrare

      Unable to reply to your last post to me…unless your post show up on the first page of Best-Newest-Oldest it will not take my reply,so am doing it here…

      Good to hear you love Christmas…i posted this link a few days ago concerning an article Pat Buchanan had written called Christmas in an Anti–Christian age…you may find it thought provoking…If you find the time read Pat Buchanan’s latest book…Suicide of a Super-Power…It may help give you a better understanding of the importance of Christianity and the role it plays in preserving western culture…

      http://buchanan.org/blog/christmas-in-an-anti-christian-age-5440

  • Rosenkranz

    There was no America ins 1619!?

  • Spike Leroy

    No reparations without repatriations!

    • John R

      Now THERE is a great slogan! I wish more white so-called “conservatives” would repeat it.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    I agree with Conyers on reparations.

    It’s far past time we White tax slaves were recognized and compensated for the trillions we’ve been forced to pay to blacks for EBT cards, welfare, obamaphones, education and prisons — all of it wasted. Government subsidies to this parasitic class should be halted immediately.

    I will look forward the check for reparations I am due. You see, we Whites fought on the bloodiest battle fields of the WBTS and 750,000 of us lost our lives to set your ancestors free. The US government freed the slaves at great cost and loss of life. And what do we get in return? Impudence, demands and resentment. You and all blacks should be thankful for what we Whites have given you instead of attacking us like the spoiled children that you are.

    With that said:

    You owe me, Conyers, you owe me big time so pay up you cheap bastard.

    Bon

    • JohnEngelman

      They are better off because their ancestors were brought over as slaves. We are worse off.

      • robinbishop34

        Your thoughts on Jews in Europe

        • JohnEngelman

          Jews succeed everywhere in the world, even when the odds are against them, as they often have been.

          • Remington

            Oh yes engleman, jews have been so successful everywhere in the world, that they somehow needed less intelligent Whites to rescue them from complete extermination during WW2. What a success indeed !

          • shmo123

            What an absurd statement. Jews in Europe under the Nazis were a defenseless civilian population. They were not armed any more than any other conquered population, and being confined to ghettos only made it more difficult to acquire any weapons at all.

          • David Ashton

            Jews were slaves in ancient Egypt and owned slaves themselves, and in later centuries some of them sold slaves. We are all guilty and none of us are guilty. The “reparations” concept is a nonsense after the first generation.

          • JohnEngelman

            It would make more sense to make blacks pay a user fee for enjoying the benefits of a civilization superior to any they have been able to build on their own. I am willing to waive the user fee, and think they should stop talking about reparations.

            ———

            One day I asked the bored, black faces staring back at me. “What would happen if all the white people in America disappeared tomorrow?”

            “We screwed,” a young, pitch-black boy screamed back. The rest of the blacks laughed.
            http://www.amren.com/ar/pdfs/2009/200907ar.pdf

          • Daisy

            Then why on earth are we US taxpayers funding and carrying the state of Israel? You successfully and very jewishly dodge this question..

          • JohnEngelman

            Because Israel would be destroyed otherwise, and the Jews there would be annihilated.

            Unlike the South Vietnamese government, which never deserved the support of a single American serviceman, Israel has survived without American boots on the ground, but Israel does need American financial support against Arab oil wealth.

          • David Ashton

            Didn’t it occur to anyone in 1948 that a Jewish state arriving in an Arab region might upset some Arabs, and that it could not support Jews from all over the world without even further territorial expansion into other lands occupied by Arabs, and that this might be a cause of continuous conflict rather than an end to antisemitism? The Vietnamese non-communists were there long before the State of Israel.
            But we’re getting off the subject of reparations which Israel has received from Germany – why should Palestinians have to pay for “The Holocaust”?

          • JohnEngelman

            The Jews returned in peace to the land of their ancestors. It was the Palestinians who initiated the use of violence. The Jews had no reason to initiate the use of violence because they could out perform the Palestinians academically and economically.

            According to President Eisenhower as many as 80 percent of the Vietnamese supported Ho Chi Minh.

            https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/vietnam/ddeho.htm

            Vietnam was unimportant to America’s economy or security. The United States provoked a war that devastated Vietnam and which killed at least two million Vietnamese in order to prevent the ascension of a leader the vast majority of the Vietnamese wanted.

          • Daisy

            Begin and his band of thugs didn’t just set off some bombs in british hotels, they systematically raped palestinian women and murdered palestinian children to break the will of the inhabitants of Palestine! This was taught to me by a jewish PhD in middle eastern history. Your assertions, Mr. No Black People Hate White People, are increasingly ridiculous and transparently self-contradictory.

          • JohnEngelman

            When have I ever said that no black people hate white people? On many occasions on this website I have drawn attention to black crime.

          • Daisy

            You most definitely wrote on another thread on here: “No one hates you because you’re white.” The motive behind that comment have become crystal clear.

          • David Ashton

            As previously stated, I never approved of the US warfare in Vietnam but equally had no illusions about the cruelty of the communists before, during and after the war. The point of my comparison was precisely that the Vietnamese whatever their politics were long indigenous like the Palestinian
            Muslims and Christians.
            A National Homeland for most of the world Jews in the Middle East could never be large enough without geographical expansion as an exclusively Jewish State, and this necessarily entailed further expulsion of other Arabs from their own ancestral land The supposedly permanent safe refuge has become instead a continuous bone of contention, as any objective observer might well have expected.

          • Daisy

            But I thought you said the jews were always so successful even when the odds were ‘against them’…yet they beg (or simply embezzle) for american taxpayer money…even as they are the richest ethnicity in the country…hmm…

  • JohnEngelman

    By every criterion blacks are better off in the United States than in Africa. They are better off because of the white presence. It cannot be said that whites are better off with the black presence.

    • David Ashton

      And you still support the (modern) Democrats?

      • JohnEngelman

        With reservations, yes. The Republican Party is the party for the rich. I am not rich. Even if I was rich I would rather be a limousine liberal with a home in Georgetown than a Country Club Republican.

        • David Ashton

          You are building quite an interesting autobiography.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          You’re not rich either? What then were the Kennedy’s?

  • BernieGoetzFan

    I always said if they ever pass reparations I am leaving.

    Even if they don’t pass reparations I certainly have nothing but contempt for modern “Amurrica.” Am starting to lay my plans for getting out of this pathetic nation where blacks are treated as angels and whites are treated as devils.

    • liberalsuck

      Where would you go? What white country would take us in over the blacks, asians, middle easterners and muslims swamping their place?

      • BernieGoetzFan

        Argentina, Uruguay, Chile are tops on my list (I speak Spanish). Eastern Europe would be next followed by some other South American nations where whites really do enjoy white skin privilege..

        Even Canada would be better than the U.S. It is less than 2% black and they are all in Toronto or Montreal. I would not likely move there but it is a well-run country and the non-whites there (Asians) are preferable to the non-whites here.

        • FourFooted_Messiah

          Forget Toronto. Might not be a lot of blacks there, but there’s a lot of everything else now except whites. Montreal, too (and you’d better speak French there. The white Quebecois won’t speak English to you even if they know it.)

          We have mass immgration too, and I imagine many Brits are disappointed when they come running here. I met one in a small town I lived in; she must have hunted high and low for such a place, she wanted to get her daughter out of London for the obvious reasons (but wasn’t free to talk beyond that, as her homesick and friendsick daughter was present).

          • Duane A.

            Stop lying. I’ve traveled many times to Canada and most White Quebecois did speak English to me, even in Montreal which is the cultural center of Quebec, by the way.

            The French-Canadians founded Quebec and that is their ancestral land. Even if they supposedly refused to speak English as you claim, they still aren’t the intruders there. I, for one, would much prefer that Quebec regained its independence like the former Soviet states did from Russia, since in that case the English speakers are and always were the invading minority. The Brits may have won the Seven Year War, but Quebec and Montreal have always remained majority French, and is still a de facto French speaking state.

            If you don’t like the Quebecois as I suspect, don’t go into their home in the first place…

  • Matt

    My English paternal grandfather was working in Asia in 1941 for a British bank. After Pearl Harbour was bombed, the Japanese swept in and sent off to concentration camps all white persons, regardless of whether they were Americans or not. Just being white was what got my grandpa sent to a Japanese concentration camp. And the Japanese were BRUTAL in their treatment of non-Japanese prisoners – it’s a miracle my grandfather survived. But I am not going to sue the Japanese for reparations because a) I never personally experienced it, b) it was a different time and place, and c) why take it out on currently-living Japanese who never had anything to do with this? Of course, I’m a white man, and I think logically – guess that’s why I would never press for reparations in this case!

    • America First

      You think logically, but also morally: one cannot, and should not, be held responsible for that over which he had no control, regardless if he benefited or not. If such guilt by blood is the case, then, as others here have pointed out, then a huge debt is owed to the white populace IN EXISTENCE NOW for crimes committed against them by blacks PRESENTLY, for wealth redistributed to them IN CURRENT TIME, and for special treatment given to them, for which they benefit AT THIS TIME. Fairness and justice are virtues not inherent in cultures other than those derived from Western European thought and Greco-Roman law and politics.

    • Doppleganger

      There were Japanese Internment camps in America. If you’re gonna tell the story, I think that’s somewhat relevant too.

    • Svigor

      You’re being too kind. Use the black “REPARASHUNS!” movement to score points for your own tribe. I.e., join your demands at the hip to the “REPARASHUNS!” demands; if they refuse, you refuse – in fact, join the two at the hip, the way some countries “peg” their currencies to the American dollar. One can’t exist without the other.

  • gemjunior

    They get more and more disgusting with each passing day, if that’s possible. I don’t regret becoming a race realist at all, but since I became aware of their long, continuous whine and permanent extortion racket it seems there is no escape from their foul presence. I like this one in particular, especially the part about whitey being the cause of their hypertension and bad diet. It’s all clear to me now. Just watch it!
    http://youtu.be/RbIanMwjlW0
    As for reparations, only “African-Americans” can be so low in intelligence that they really really cannot see how much average-white-person’s money — hard-working, totally innocent, never did any wrong to them white people’s money — their personal earnings has been spent on these total strangers over the past 5 decades, to say nothing of the 600,000 white men that died in the Civil War that freed them from slavery. I don’t agree with slavery at all, in any case, but since whites have largely paid their ways regarding food, housing, education, etc. since that time they might as well be slaves. Because to be dependent in that way is a form of slavery IMHO. In a way, we middle class and working class white people who carry the load that is dependent black America are the ones who’ve been enslaved. It’s as if the black African-American never seems to enter adulthood and remains an oversized child or adolescent forever, and a spoiled one at that. A spoiled and entitled bunch of brats who are never done asking and wanting but have NO understanding, at all, of the concept of gratitude. And I’ve seen that in every way. I know others know exactly what I mean. Really sometimes I have to ask myself who is really being enslaved on behalf of who. One thing we know: they will NEVER accept responsibility in anyway, not for their dependents or even for themselves. Our race’s future, not just our country’s but our race’s depends on getting them under some sort of control or washing our hands of them by repatriation. But things can’t continue as they are.

    • IstvanIN

      They get more and more disgusting with each passing day, if that’s possible.

      It is possible. There seems to be a trend that we can follow to its ultimate conclusion, based on the white/black population ratio: the USA, South Africa, Zimbabwe/Rhodesia and finally the Belgian Congo. Our future.

  • http://www.newnation.org/ sbuffalonative

    I would be happy to pay reparations IF I knew it would be the end of black demands but it wouldn’t. They’d blow it within weeks and demand more.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigford_v._Glickman

    Even blacks know what blacks would do with a payoff:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg6J1Skptbs

  • Pat Kittle

    I, a horribly degenerate whitey, demand reparations from Africans whose ancestors drove my ancestors out of Africa, where they encountered brutal living conditions which caused them to evolve into today’s horribly degenerate whiteys.

    And yes, the interest on that is going to make for some serious sticker shock.

    • Svigor

      Pat Kittle is actually teaching me a thing or two here. And that’s a tall order, since I’ve been at this since 9/11 and I’ve seen it all. Or I thought I had. But this one’s new to me. See, blacks drove our ancestors out of Africa, and they subsequently became ebil YT. And we all know the story from there. And blacks are to blame.

      For shame Africans, for shame. Clearly, reparashuns is in orda. ;)

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  • martin stuart

    40 acres and a mule was not a promise, it was a bill that was never passed.
    sorry , no check. besides, they stated years ago that the money will go to organizations to better african americans. they are not just going to give it to people. scam.

    • http://twitter.com/seedymedia r j p

      The gov tried it “acres and a mule”, they wouldn’t work the land.
      It was called the “Sea Island Experiment”.

    • FourFooted_Messiah

      Meanwhile, the new Canadian government of the late 1800s gave free prairie land to any Ukranian willing to plow the tough sod. They did, and they built several still-extant communities. Our last former premier was from one of those places.

      I think the Ukranians were given at least a quarter-section (a section being 640 acres, if I recall correctly).

      • Liberalsuck

        If only the Canadian government today would let in all the whites from South Africa and Zimbabwe instead of the nonwhite immigrants today.

        • FourFooted_Messiah

          I know, a year or two ago some white South African was laughed out of the refugee courts, it was disgusting.

    • Robert Binion

      Today, one good mule can cost more than a house in Detroit.

  • Morris Thecat

    There will come a point real soon where YT will wake up

    • Liberalsuck

      I’m afraid that might not be for awhile and by that time, YT will have no choice but to resist with brute force and violence. Whites by nature are slow to anger, but very brutal when they are pushed too far.

  • Liberalsuck

    I’m so sick of black people’s whining and demands. we give and give, yet they still hate us and will never let up. What do we get in return for giving into their demands? Do we get to have our own neighborhoods? Do we get public apologies for the black on white crime?

  • Morris Thecat

    The silly animals with their simple ape brains are going to push things too far and that will be the end of “black America”

  • TonyWestfield

    Yes, those unfortunate black slaves worked and worked and worked…and never got a paycheck. This is why whites are rich and blacks are poor. If those black slaves had been paid for all those hours of labor, they would have saved and saved and saved…

    And today’s black Americans would all be rich. Every black family would have a million bucks in the bank. We know this is true because we Americans — especially blacks — are extremely frugal and put the lion’s share of our every paycheck into long-term savings and investments.

    Yup, no doubt about it.

    • MikeofAges

      “Dem dat plants ‘em is soon forgotten”, not like the progeny of, say, the men who built Boulder Dam, all of whom are either Supreme Court justices, U.S. Senators, world-famous scientists, financiers, or just plain stinky rich with big houses, powerful motorcars and, yes, more servants than there are family members.

  • shattered

    I think we may have found the problem: http://youtu.be/34n8-1xg2Kc

    Hmmm….

  • Aaron

    (amount of money whites owe for slavery) < ((amount blacks owe whites for higher interracial murder rates) + ((white tax dollars paid to black welfare recipients) – (black tax dollars paid to white welfare recipients)) + (money blacks owe whites for fighting in the civil war) + (money blacks owe whites for college/job/grant preferences))
    non-mathematical version: If we talk about races owing each other money, blacks might not like the result

  • blacks owe whites reparations

    Hated despicable lying caniving scheming extortionist cursed Hamites were meant to be in the chosen blessed Shem race land and never needed as slaves and clearly this was set up by the half Hamite in the WH who should have never been elected there in the first place.
    Clearly they are an abomination and only evil perpetuated buying them off the tribal chiefs as the rejects the were and into the white western civilization. Where is the reparation from the Hamite tribal chiefs who sold them off as rejects?
    Send them all back to Africa as Jefferson and Madison should have done 230 years ago.

  • Whitey

    Haven’t we already paid our white guilt tax in the form of welfare handouts? I mean white taxpayers have been supporting almost every black family in America for a long time now. If we did in fact give them “40 acres and a mule” could they maybe grow their own food and stop sucking the teat?

  • georgetown eliteness

    How about reparations for the white race having to deal with these animals for the past 500 years after they were graciously bought off their own tribal chiefs and shipped out of that

    wretched g-d forsaken pagan continent hellhole of disease death cannibalism and every unimaginable horror known to ultimately destroy the Europeans who damn sure needed black slaves like a hole in the head.

    How lucky were these 3rd world race to have gotten a free ticket out of hell and into paradise where even after 100s of years so called wise men like Jefferson and Madison could not see the horrid train wreck slavery has become and what was in store for the Red States once Marx and his Lincoln tool came about?

    Whites are owed quadrillions who had nothing to do with slavery even as much as a savior for the black race as it was. Colonialism was also a colossus mistake as was Rhodesia and South Africa. What were whites thinking anyway? Clearly some insidious evil manipulated and orchestrated any attempt to enter the land of Ham that was taboo and genetically forbidden. It is too simple to just say ” that we hold these “truths” to be self evident that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights …. blah blah blah … no footnotes to verify any of that BS.
    We know that this was a lie told by Jefferson under duress knowing he and his family and the rest of the traitor rebels could be slain by the Brits although we know how everything out and these elite had decades to rewrite or change what they uttered but refused to do so and the resulting outcome is obvious.

    Clearly Jefferson and Madison and their motley crew were rogues liars cheats thieves manipulators revisionists and blasphemers of the worst kind paving the path for Marx and his Manifesto with the Lincoln scoundrel across the pond who completely obliterated
    with abolitionists a complete white continent and forever changed the course of the NWO sanctified by WMR.
    As a spit in the face you cant blame 1% on the black race who were 100% innocent in the entire affair and only being who they were created to be.
    Jefferson and Madison are burning and rotting in some form of Dante hell for eternity at this stage who actually called it a frozen existence in the 9 stages of his imagination.

    We must give the real ancient white hebrews of the chosen blessed Shem race credit for their media guides and of course Constantine who put it all together and published it as the universal concept for understanding and cement the chosen race as being supreme over it all eternally as it was meant to be.

    • IstvanIN

      The only problem with South Africa was trying to incorporate black inhabited areas (like Zululand) and allowing black immigration from north of SA. The parts of SA that the Afrikaners were the original people should have stayed white, and probably all Afrikaner. Truly a crime against humanity what the British did to the Afrikaners.

  • Libearlsuck

    This is another con job from the black community to once again suck money out of white people and continue to have white people feel sorry for them so blacks don’t have to be held accountable for their own failures and unhappiness in life.

    • Morris Thecat

      They should be disenfranchised. This is racial warfare they are waging. We tried the multiracial society-it does not work. Time to declare that this is a white country, others exists here at are fancy. Liberals have no problem with Israel being defined by ethnicity.

      • Liberalsuck

        I don’t know if you could make this entire country a ‘White country’, at least not anytime soon. Far too many nonwhites here and, for that, matter most whites today are too afraid and appalled at ‘white racism’ that they would never go for that. The only hope is that certain parts of this country could be broken off into a white nation (like the Midwest and the Pacific Northwest), but that won’t happen until the current federal government is bankrupt and the vast majority of whites are so fed up with political correctness and anti-white stuff and they are willing to fight (and I mean FIGHT) to declare their independence. Even after that, whites will have to have big families, make sure their young white people work, make sure the coming generations of whites are prowhite, make sure the coming generations of whites are willing to fight for their people, and such. It will not be easy.

  • christopher mahoney

    How about the invasion, destruction, starvation and subjugation of the south from 1861-76? That was done by the federal government and there are records to prove it.

    • IstvanIN

      The US committed among the worst war crimes of any nation at least twice, the first time being against the CSA, and the second against Germany during WW2. It seems we have been anti-white for a LONG time.

  • Alexandra

    Ship ‘em back to Africa. They claim their ancestors came here in chains…well, they can go back. Just buy them a one-way ticket to the black African nation of their choice.

    Tell them we’ll give them reparations after they’ve paid for all the damage they’ve done…turning my hometown of Detroit (and other cities) into third-world war zones, among other things.

  • http://www.facebook.com/allan.foster.370 Allan Foster

    Conyers’ ancestors were enslaved by Black Africans and freed by White Americans. If Conyers wants reparations, he should get them from Africa, not from the US.

    • Liberalsuck

      Silly rabbit. Don’t you know? White people have the money, so they need to pay.

  • Morris Thecat

    White people need to form “committees of Correspondence” in each state and then transform them into a “white Christian Congress” along the same lines as the “Continental Congress”. We need to just bypass the whole current political structure, organize as a separate government with a mission of restoring the constitution government, and the country as a whole, to it’s earlier form That form would be the form it had before the marxists corrupted the courts , media and government. to its, and go from there. We need to just reject all of this BS and just bypass it, make them deal with us. The members of this first congress would not be subject to elections just as the members of the continental congress weren’t .Elections would come after the constitution and country is restored .

  • Epiminondas

    Pass this and things will get worse. After all, when the morons passed the civil rights legislation in the 60s, they pretty much signed a document that chiseled white guilt in granite. Open the reparations floodgates and you will soon find yourself up to your eyebrows in Marxism.

    • OlderWoman

      Interesting how blacks are believed to be Christian for all their ‘church-going ways’. I wonder if their Bibles have edited out I Timothy 5: 18 “The Laborer is worthy of his hire.”

  • OlderWoman

    Doesn’t he do this every session?

  • StillModerated

    YT should be sending Obama an invoice instead.

    http://www.resist.com/CARTOON%20GALLERY/NIGGERS/nig_image58.jpg

  • Michael_C_Scott

    If they ever do this, I will renounce my US citizenship and move my family to Vladivostok.

    • IstvanIN

      Isn’t your wife Japanese? Couldn’t the three of you emigrate there, or does your prison record preclude that. It would seem more natural for your particular family.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        I’m not completely certain. For Japanese citizenship, I would need to change my name to something like Masahiro Escottu and learn to read and write in Kanji. Vladivostok would put us closer to her parents, and I’d probably have an easier time with permission for rifles in Russia.

        • IstvanIN

          I suppose Russian would be easier for an English speaker to learn than Japanese. Japan, being a fairly non-violent country, you wouldn’t need a rifle, unless you are a hunter. That is one of many things I like about Japan, they make you “Nipponese”(?) your name if you move there.

          Hopefully your daughter will have you for a long time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/authorjames.w.lewis Author James W. Lewis

    Although we have a history of paying reparations–to the Japanese for WWII camps and survivors of the Rosewood riot–I believe slave reparations is unrealistic and too complicated to implement. On another note, my ancestors were forced here, and helped build this country–I served this country in the service for 20 years–so the descendants ain’t going anywhere.

  • razorrare

    Four Footed Messiah…Unable to post a response to your latest post to me in the normal manner…if post dont show on first page of Best-Newest-Oldest , disques dosent accept my reply…either that or its a mod problem or worse a hack job…so am posting my response here…

    Good to hear you love Christmas…i posted this link a few days ago concerning an article Pat Buchanan had written called Christmas in an Anti–Christian age…you may find it thought provoking…If you find the time read Pat Buchanan’s latest book…Suicide of a Super-Power…It may help give you a better understanding of the importance of Christianity and the role it plays in preserving western culture…

    http://buchanan.org/blog/christmas-in-an-anti-christian-age-5440

  • razorrare

    By Patrick J. Buchanan

    For two millennia, the birth of Christ has been seen as the greatest event in world history. The moment Jesus was born in a stable in Bethlehem, God became man, and eternal salvation became possible.

    This date has been the separation point of mankind’s time on earth, with B.C. designating the era before Christ, and A.D., anno domino, in the Year of the Lord, the years after. And how stands Christianity today?

    “Christianity is in danger off being wiped out in its biblical heartlands,” says the British think tank Civitas.

    In Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Ethiopia and Nigeria, Christians face persecution and pogroms. In Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, conversion is a capital offense. In a century, two-thirds of all the Christians have vanished from the Islamic world.

    In China, Christianity is seen as a subversive ideology of the West to undermine the regime.

    In Europe, a century ago, British and German soldiers came out of the trenches to meet in no-man’s land to sing Christmas carols and exchange gifts. It did not happen in 1915, or ever again.

    In the century since, all the Western empires have vanished. All of their armies and navies have melted away. All have lost their Christian faith. All have seen their birthrates plummet. All their nations are aging, shrinking and dying, and all are witnessing invasions from formerly subject peoples and lands.

    In America, too, the decline of Christianity proceeds.

    While conservatives believe that culture determines politics, liberals understand politics can change culture.

    The systematic purging of Christian teachings and symbols from our public schools and public square has produced a growing population — 20 percent of the nation, 30 percent of the young — who answer “none” when asked about their religious beliefs and affiliations.

    In the lead essay in the Book Review of Sunday’s New York Times, Paul Elie writes of our “post-Christian” fiction, where writers with “Christian convictions” like Walker Percy and Flannery O’Connor are a lost tribe.

    “Where has the novel of belief gone?” he asks.

    Americans understand why Mao’s atheist heirs who have lost their Marxist-Leninist faith and militants Islamists fear and detest the rival belief system of Christianity. But do they understand the animus that lies behind the assault on their faith here at home?

    In a recent issue of New Oxford Review, Andrew Seddon (“The New Atheism: All the Rage”) describes a “Reason Rally” in Washington, D.C., a “coming out” event sponsored by atheist groups. Among the speakers was Oxford biologist Richard Dawkins, author of “The God Delusion,” who claims that “faith is an evil precisely because it requires no justification and brooks no argument.”

    Christians have been infected by a “God virus,” says Dawkins. They are no longer rational beings. Atheists should treat them with derisory contempt. “Mock Them!” Dawkins shouted. “Ridicule them! In public!”

    In “The End of Faith,” atheist Sam Harris wrote that “some propositions are so dangerous that it may even be ethical to kill people.”

    “Since the New Atheists believe that religion is evil,” notes Seddon, “that it ‘poisons everything,’ in (Christopher) Hitchens’ words — it doesn’t take much effort to see that Harris is referring to religions and the people who follow them.”

    Now since atheists are still badly outnumbered in America and less well-armed than the God-and-Country boys, and atheists believe this is the only life they have, atheist suggestions to “kill people” of Christian belief is probably a threat Christians need not take too seriously.

    With reference to Dawkins’ view that the Christian faith “requires no justification and brooks no argument,” Seddon makes a salient point.

    While undeniable that Christianity entails a belief in the supernatural, the miraculous — God became man that first Christmas, Christ raised people from the dead, rose himself on the first Easter Sunday and ascended into heaven 40 days later — consider what atheists believe.

    They believe that something came out of nothing, that reason came from irrationality, that a complex universe and natural order came out of randomness and chaos, that consciousness came from non-consciousness and that life emerged from non-life.

    This is a bridge too far for the Christian for whom faith and reason tell him that for all of this to have been created from nothing is absurd; it presupposes a Creator.

    Atheists believe, Seddon writes, that “a multiverse (for which there is no experimental or observational evidence) containing an inconceivably large number of universes spontaneously created itself.”

    Yet, Hitchens insists, “our belief is not a belief.”

    Nonsense. Atheism requires a belief in the unbelievable.

    Christians believe Christ could raise people from the dead because he is God. That is faith. Atheists believe life came out of non-life. That, too, is faith. They believe in what their god, science, cannot demonstrate, replicate or prove. They believe in miracles but cannot identify, produce or describe the miracle worker.

    At Christmas, pray for Hitchens, Harris, Dawkins and the other lost souls at that Reason Rally.

    These might be related:

    The Abolition of ChristmasThe Abolition of ChristmasOf Christmas, War and PeaceEnd of the Christian Era?Where Have All the Christian Soldiers Gone?The Coming Age of AusterityIs America Ashamed of Its Christian Past?Bellicose Barrage of Christian-bashingPost-Christian AmericaThe Dispossession of Christian Americans

  • Michael_C_Scott

    I have attempted to calculate the reparations owed me by the Communist Occupation Government:

    Twelve years at $75,000 per year as a research chemist equals $900,000. One million dollars a year for three years of wrongful incarceration equals three million dollars. The original patent money owed me was $625,000, for which I was originally willing to settle for $400,000. I am now owed the whole original amount, with interest.

    We’ll call this an even five million at this point, but I’m not done.

    I would like a full pardon and restoration of my gun rights.

  • http://www.facebook.com/adam.piec Adam Piec

    Fine!, but with the repatriation back to your progressive and economic powerhouse continent AFRICA. There will be no right to return, take your cockroaches and drugs with you.

  • LastBastionOfHope

    I am half Italian and my uncle was called a “guinea” in high school once. Where do I get my reparations? Hey, fair is fair right?

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      “Guinea?” That’s not so bad compared to another anti-Italian slur I’ve heard:

      “Inside-out n****r.”

      • IstvanIN

        That is what my grandfather called Jews, and he didn’t really dislike blacks so much, but Jews…..

    • Daisy

      The, um, “guineas” have always indulged in more than their fair share of anti-white=native european hatreds, sorry…

  • nevermind

    Whites need 500 trillion in reparations for all the genetic and cultural damages done to their white society and western civilization but do not need slave but the best reparations would be to get out and get back to Africa and the tribal chiefs who conned their rejects off on the white elite slavers who must have been under a trance to believe bringing wild animals to the west to pick cotten and clean house was of any benefit.
    Whites are so gullible.

  • shattered

    All this race-baiting by Democrat legislatures does is stop the very people they want to help from moving past it. And, we’re long past it almost by two centuries now. Face it Democrats, it’s ancient history.

  • Tim

    I LOVE all the ideas about giving them money and sending them on their way… But wasn`t the whole message of the last election that they have the votes to TAKE our money and send US on our way…

    • Boereseun

      Perhaps if the Republicans had used this idea as their election platform they might have gotten more whites to come out and vote for them.

  • razorrare

    Today i have been reading the rape case of a steubenville,ohio high school girl(White) who was “alllegedly” raped by two black steubenville highschool football players who were tried as juveniles rather than as adults whose charges also had included kidnapping but was dropped by the prosecution…its a fascinating story with a lot of twist and turns…unwittingly it would seem a liberal hacker group calling themselves Anonymous is creating a lot of coverage on the story in which the crime occured back in August of 2012…Evidently the NYT did a small exxpose on it as did a Russian media outlet–by and large it was ignored by the MSM here.Liberals like Rosie Odonnell has become involved as well but their intentions seem to be focused on the White football players who disgustingly joked about the rape…This story is a great example of just how far our civil society has deteriorated…Just type in steubenville rape case at YouTube or google it…Perhaps Amren or one of its featured writers can do a critique article on it in the future…

    Will reparations be forthcoming for this poor White child that was raped & sodomized & peed on paid for by the black community…Where is the collective black guilt?

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/05/justice/ohio-steubenville-alleged-rape-case/index.html

    • razorrare

      Can you imagine a couple of White high-school football players raping repeatedly a black high-school girl in differant houses and taking her across the state line in a trunk of a car to rape her again and again while she is unconcious…not being charged with kidnapping and not being tried as adults…can you imagine other black high-school football players making a video and laughing about what the two White boys did to her and put it on the internet?….what about reparations for psycholigally damaged White kids who hate their White skin so much they think nothing of it when their black football buddies rape & sodomize a fellow White and make jokes about it on the internet…

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Remember the Jena 6 incident? Those black bastards beat a White kid senseless — when the AP saw the kid on the ground, he thought the kid was dead.

        The black community came out in favor of the black assailants, calling THEM the victims!! How sick is that?

        On September 20, 2007, between 15,000 and 20,000 protesters marched on Jena in what was described as the ‘largest civil rights demonstration in years’

        And…

        White kids who hate their White skin so much they think nothing of it when their black football buddies rape & sodomize a fellow White and make jokes about it on the internet…

        Shows the extent of the brainwashing, doesn’t it? Like sheep to slaughter, we Whites are…

        Bon

        • razorrare

          Yes i do remember the jena six incident…in fact Amren recently revisited it whereas we both responded to the article…or at least we both recently brought it up…and Yes..it certainly shows the extent of the brainwashing and the extent of the power & influence of the jews.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      I saw this incident mentioned in a so-call mainstream source with the races not mentioned anywhere — and knew instantly it was a black-on-White crime. It is outrageous that these beasts were tried as juveniles and not adults. I have no problem with execution for these types of monsters!!

      I read the CNN article you posted and it didn’t mention race.

      But..the good news is this (from the CNN article):

      On Saturday, throngs of protesters returned to Steubenville in support of the alleged victim and to protest the town’s handling of the case. A similar rally was held last month.

      Several demonstrators donned Guy Fawkes masks, considered symbolic of Anonymous. One protester held up a sign reading ‘I’m not against Big Red, I’m against rape,’ a reference to the high school’s nickname.

      This is a GOOD sign. How often have we EVER seen Whites rally and protest for a White victim of black assault/rape/crime? Maybe the White public is FINALLY waking up and getting sick and tired of being assaulted/attacked/raped by black monsters.

      There is NO justification for black crime against Whites.

      Bon

      • razorrare

        If you go to Youtube you can view the protest in their entirety…You can also listen to Alex jones as well as Rosie Odonell interview…i merely used the cnn article cause it was the most recent…on that same page on the left they have various videos pertaining to the same…you can view at youtube the tape made by the White football players…well i’ll post that for you…be back in a minute…

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vtHCYyaIeI&bpctr=1357531021

      • razorrare

        Yes,but the fact is this rally was organized by the left…the Anonymous hacker group and various leftist celebrities like Rosie Odonnell…many of the protestors were from out of state…They mistakenly believe that the White kids who posted the videos & made tweets are more responsible for the rapes–participated in the rapes(not true) and that is why i stated they–the left –has unwittingly brought this case to the public spotlight…Those who broke anycrimes in this case was the two black football players who raped this White girl…My point about the White kids being so psycholigically damaged that even they deserve reparations is because of years of brainwashing filtering down from universities unto mainstream printed media and electronic media has promoted self-hate for White children…It is exactly the lack of White identity pushed and promoted by Hollywood and other such institutions that has created this sickness in Whites and you see the results while viewing the tape i posted for you from Youtube…

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity
    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      NO, we won’t and neither will 0bama — he’ll sign an EO, while Boehner, the “crier of the house” stands by and weeps, and that’ll be the end of it.

      Bon

      • razorrare

        Boehner will be weeping while stuffing his pockets with money supplied by his jewish controllers…listen to latest interview with Dr.Kevin MacDonald on Political Cesspool dated Sun 6-2013…This will explain it quite clearly…

        http://feeds.feedburner.com/tpc-podcast

  • Joseph

    What about the Mexicans? They won’t want to feel left out after the theft of “their land”.

  • Greg Thomas

    Everyday is full of “reparations” for blacks in this country.

  • Kenny

    This is ridiculous bullshit. Blacks have been free for 1.5 centuries and have had the same rights as all others for .5 century in this country. Blacks are owed nothing. They were freed and granted the same rights, which is more than was ever given to a race by another race in the entire human history. Their grasping and demanding ways clearly exemplifies their savage natures.

    • Svigor

      Ha, all true. But you’re missing out on a golden opportunity here. Look at my response to 48224 and ponder; “RAPARASHUNS!” are a golden opportunity.

  • razorrare

    In a recent related article Pat Buchanan writes:

    Pat Buchanan: The Depardieu Revolution

    Category: General

    When Socialist President Francois Hollande took office, he swiftly made good on his pledge to raise the top tax rate on Frenchmen who earn a million euros a year — to 75 percent.

    The regime would now confiscate three of four dollars that the most successful Frenchmen earned. Paris also imposes a wealth tax on assets worth more than $1.7 million.

    This broke it for Gerard Depardieu, the famed actor and bon vivant who has performed in scores of films in such roles as Jean Valjean in “Les Miserables” and Cyrano de Bergerac.

    Depardieu put his Paris mansion up for sale, crossed the border into the Belgian village of Nechin, gave up his French passport and is renouncing his French citizenship. A tiny community of French already reside in Nechin, a kilometer beyond the reach of Hollande’s tax police.

    Depardieu says that this past year 85 percent of all he earned went for taxes. Over a 45-year career, he contends, almost $200 million in income has been taxed away by the French government.

    “I don’t like the rich,” Hollande has said.

    The sentiment is reciprocated. One French radio station claims that 5,000 French citizens have fled since he took office.

    Hollande’s regime, writes Edward Cody of The Washington Post, has all but declared Depardieu a traitor. Labor Minister Michel Sapin calls him an example of “personal degradation.” Culture Minister Aurelie Filippetti charges him with “deserting the battlefield in a war against the economic crisis.”

    “When someone loves France, he should serve,” says Hollande, calling Depardieu “pathetic” and “unpatriotic.”

    Which raises a question for Americans. For our revolution was born of a tax rebellion against the Stamp Act, the Townshend duties and the tea tax that led to the Boston Tea Party.

    Purpose of these taxes: Have the colonies pay a fair share of the cost of the French and Indian War, in which British soldiers had driven the enemies of the colonies out of the Ohio Valley.

    But when farmers in Pennsylvania rebelled against a whiskey tax to defray the cost of our Revolutionary War, President Washington marched out with 13,000 militia to crush that tax rebellion.

    While the socialist left has come down hardest on Depardieu, he is well within a tradition of the cultural left.

    As The Associated Press’ Thomas Addison reports, when the British top tax rate was 95 percent in the 1960s, the Beatles’ George Harrison wrote “Taxman” with the lyrics, “There’s one for you, 19 for me.”

    In 2005, Beatles’ drummer Ringo Starr moved to Monaco, where the income tax rate is zero.

    Sean Connery, the first “James Bond,” departed Britain in the 1960s for Spain and the Bahamas, writes Addison, “another spot with zero income tax.” In the 1970s, his successor as 007, Roger Moore, also chose tax exile in Monaco. In those years of confiscatory tax rates in England, the Rolling Stones relocated to Southern France.

    What does this teach us?

    That socialism, the forced redistribution of income and wealth from those who produce it to those who do not, eventually forces a man to choose between himself and his family — and his government.

    Socialism creates and exacerbates a conflict in loyalties. A regime that takes three of every four dollars a man earns is an enemy of what that man works to accomplish for himself and his family.

    Mitt Romney was castigated for keeping bank accounts in the Caymans, Bermuda and Switzerland. Yet countless U.S. companies leave profits abroad to evade U.S. taxes.

    Californians flee to Nevada, Arizona, Idaho and Colorado to escape Golden State taxes. Are they disloyal to their home state, or are they doing what is right by their families, their first responsibility?

    With federal income taxes on America’s most successful rising today to almost 40 percent, New York City residents will also pay a top rate of 12 percent to the state and city plus a 9 percent sales tax on their purchases, plus payroll taxes for Medicare and Social Security, plus property taxes, auto taxes, gas taxes and cigarette taxes.

    For many successful Americans, over half of all they earn is now taken by government. And reading The New York Times’ year-end editorial, these may soon be seen as the good old days.

    The Times urges Obama to consider sweeping new taxes to “reduce income inequality.” Among the revenue raisers for which it urges consideration: Almost tripling the capital tax rate to 40 percent, capping deductions for high earners, restoring the estate tax to confiscatory levels, higher tax rates or surcharges on multimillion-dollar incomes and raising the corporate tax rate — already the highest in the world.

    “All that would be only a start,” says the Times. A carbon tax, a value-added tax, a financial transactions tax should all be looked at.

    Can a man love his country and hate its government? Of course. Ask Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Ask the patriots of ’76.

    This un-American and egalitarian fanaticism rearing its head today may one day force just such a question upon American patriots.

  • IstvanIN

    They aren’t going back to Africa but we could negotiate a velvet divorce. Give them 15% of the land mass of the lower 48. A contiguous piece, of course. We could do population movements, although the white people who had to leave the new Negro nation wouldn’t be too happy to give up the state of their birth, I think it would be the only way to end this constant low-level war. Land, money and a chance to prove themselves. In fact we could sell it as an opportunity to prove that without white oppression the black would soar to new heights of civilization. Anything to separate from them, once and for all.

  • razorrare

    Fascinating interview with Dr.Kevin MacDonald on Political Cesspool…dated Sun 6-2013…Radio Show Hour 3…

    http://feeds.feedburner.com/tpc-podcast

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JBFGOQQ2RC5YQ6YOCSUPJQGN2U AvgDude

    Nobody alive today was ever a slave.

    Nobody alive today was ever a slave holder.

    We’ve already had racially compensatory policies like Affirmative Action and “Great Society” programs in place for almost half a century. Now we’ve got scams like Pigford and EBT cards being leveraged by blacks to get free money off the backs of everyone else more than every before. Enough of this nonsense.

  • Daisy

    Does my irish great grandfather receive reparations for his service in the Civil War, fighting for the north and freeing all those slaves…where can I collect?

  • william and mary

    These lying con artists pretend that had the real slaves who were only of the same black Ham race but otherwise had nothing in common with them, never been sold of as slave rejects by the tribal chiefs they would be living a wonderful life in the hellhole wretched 3rd world jungles of disease ridden death laden cannibalistic voodoo prehistoric existence.
    Conyers is a pos like those with the mentality of his ilk knowing full well the white elite were his saviors and he should be on his knees worshiping the ground they walk on otherwise had there never been slavery none of this terrible omen would have been bestowed on the white race who have been through a living hell for the past 500 years in a real sense of the word that keeps getting worse.
    Obama and his black race have zero comprehension of the real world of western civilization continue spending trillions and playing mr cool like some street pimp hustler with the keys to the white bank. Terrible situation thanks to all those involved in the past 500 years who failed to change the system while they had a chance proving their own inferior intelligence and lack of insight although you need to begin with the conception and independence declaration of the 13 colonies in 1776. There has never before been shown such stupidity and ignorance in all of world history with a genetic storm brewing on the not to distant horizon. From 1791 USC ratification until 1848 and the Manifesto was only a short 57 years. Incredulous. All the Founders were the worse of the worse idiots and morons.

  • mike

    I agree. Let’s print out a trillion dollars and let Al Sharpton distribute it.

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      You haven’t heard about the $1 trillion platinum coin? John Engelman’s favorite economist is even on board with it now.

      As an aside, when this nutbar idea was first re-circulated (it’s been out there for maybe a year), I wondered what the real money supply is these days. For a long time, the metric referred to in the vernacular of economics education as M0 (M-Zero), but not officially by the Fed (their official name for it is some long acronym), which is defined as all the American paper and coin currency in common circulation, wasn’t even $1 trillion, so a single $1 trillion coin would more than double it. But to my shock, it wouldn’t do that now: While M0 was only around $800 billion as late as the fall of 2008, before you-know-what happened, thanks to several rounds of quantitative easing, it now stands at about $2,700 billion ($2.7 trillion).

      People are claiming that things aren’t that bad, because DJIA is now riding at about the same 13k it was in the summer of 2008, pre-crash. (I sometimes read that line of “reasoning” here on AR.) Yeah? So what? Does DJIA 13k in an America with $2.7 trillion of open currency and coin floating around mean the same thing as DJIA 13k in the America of yore with only $0.8 trillion ibid.? It’s actually scary that with more than three times as much physical currency floating around out there, that their oh-so-important metric based on the current selling prices of mostly long-ago issued shares of common stock of the thirty given large publicly traded corporations that some cigar-munchers in some room deem currently “important” can only get back to par. What’s more scary is that everything isn’t more than three times as expensive as it was in September 2008 — A lot is significantly more expensive, but not everything is literally (2.7/0.8) = 3.375 times more expensive. But that must mean one or more of several things: (1) Things are about to get more expensive, and it’s just taking time for the increased money supply to work its way through the economy, (2) “Official” CPI is artificially low, (Duh, when Social Security checks and tax brackets are indexed to CPI, do you think the Feds/Fed have a big incentive to nuance/lie it down as far as possible?), (3) There are other economic factors why there are things that are not yet or will not eventually become 3.375 times more expensive than they were in 9/08, (4) M0 is not the be-all end-all metric of money supply: Ron Paul actually thinks M3 is a better “real” metric for money supply, and M3 is all “M0″ coin/currency floating around plus banks’ deposits with the Fed plus checking accounts plus travelers checks plus savings accounts plus almost all money market funds and mutual funds plus almost all certificates of deposit, if my memory serves. Since the financial crisis, M3 has increased, but not at the same ridiculous rate as M0.

      If the $1t coin won’t be that disastrous, it’s only because M0 has been quantitatively eased so high already. But that doesn’t mean it’s at all desirable. And it doesn’t mean that people making excuses for it to advocate for it don’t need to crack an econ text and learn the difference between budgets and money supply.