Black Men Survive Longer in Prison than Out: Study

Genevra Pittman, Reuters, July 14, 2011

Black men are half as likely to die at any given time if they’re in prison than if they aren’t, suggests a new study of North Carolina inmates.

The black prisoners seemed to be especially protected against alcohol- and drug-related deaths, as well as lethal accidents and certain chronic diseases.

But that pattern didn’t hold for white men, who on the whole were slightly more likely to die in prison than outside, according to findings published in Annals of Epidemiology.

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“Ironically, prisons are often the only provider of medical care accessible by these underserved and vulnerable Americans,” said Hung-En Sung of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

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The new study involved about 100,000 men between age 20 and 79 who were held in North Carolina prisons at some point between 1995 and 2005. Sixty percent of those men were black.

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Less than one percent of men died during incarceration, and there was no difference between black and white inmates. But outside prison walls, blacks have a higher rate of death at any given age than whites.

“What’s very sad about this is that if we are able to all of a sudden equalize or diminish these health inequalities that you see by race inside a place like prison, it should also be that in places like a poor neighborhood we should be able to diminish these sort of inequities,” said Evelyn Patterson, who studies correctional facilities at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee.

“If it can be done (in prison), then certainly it can happen outside of prison,” Patterson, who wasn’t linked to the new work, told Reuters Health.

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[Editor’s Note: The original study is available here.]

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  • Anonymous

    I can hear the Liberal argument now. Imprison more black men. It will increase their lifespan! I guess the solution is not to imprison them?

  • Sissy White

    Another way of putting it, more White people survive, the more black people that are in jail!

  • Anonymous

    The blacks also must survive longer in the U.S. Military.

    The TV just showed the latest killed Afghanistan- 9 Whites, 0 blacks.

    Do any blacks fight on the front line?

    Would love to see the racial breakdown of killed and wounded from each war we’ve ever fought.

    Whites do the fighting and dying, so black buck “soldiers” can stay in base getting fat and making babies with the White women.

    Have you ever been to an army base? More mulatto babies there than anywhere. The military isn’t what we’re led to believe. Does anybody know if there is race realism among the White warriors?

  • Question Diversity

    The lesson of the day? White men need to live in freedom in order to have long lives, black men need to live in slavery and chains in order to have long lives. It should be noted that along with a (theoretically) booze and dope free environment, prison is also a gun free environment. This Patterson woman can’t grasp the irony of her babbling on about equality.

    White men who go to prison probably don’t live as long because for a white man because the blacks that rape them will very likely give them an STD.

  • olewhitelady

    Surely, most people who read this article start thinking “plantation”. The way so many American blacks are maintained by the welfare system, it’s like living on one big plantation–as a few social commentators have already opined.

    Integration has not helped the majority of blacks. It’s thrown them into direct competition with whites–and now Hispanics–and most are failing utterly. Black jobs that were prestigious in the black community, like Pullman porter, are no more. If a black man tried to be a shoeshiner, he’d probably be ridiculed. Blacks are constantly told that they have to graduate college and go out into the white world and show whitey what for. No one, of any race, can be happy if he’s constantly being pushed to go beyond his limits.

  • Depopulator

    If Black and White folk lived separately then each would live longer and happier lives. In the first instance, it’s unfair for blacks to be dressed up as westerners and expected to fill our shoes in society as our equals, and this is because Blacks do what Black genes tell them to do, to the extent that genes do determine ones behavior.

    In the second instance, it’s unbearable for whites to live around any race of people who are as violent and dangerous as Blacks. No sooner would it be of the best interests of whites to live and interact with wolves or mountain lions than it would be for us to live around blacks. Have you ever noticed how hard it has become to try and avoid blacks in society? They’re virtually everywhere you look now. They and the Mestizo population will aggravate white separatists even more as their numbers continue to rise. White society as a whole is gong to become more and more racist overall with each passing day, henceforth from the Obama Presidential era, and onwards.

    By my estimates, the faster whites run out of all white communities devoid of mestizos, blacks, and other undesirable racial groups, then the faster racial separatist sentiment will culminate. There’s a reason why over half of all ‘racist’ groups in America were once positioned along the I-5 in California’s central valley; because Mexicans migrants moved in and bred in that region so much faster than virtually any other area of the country. If I could bus in white social Marxist college students into black inner city neighborhoods at 2am and drop them off on a street corner with 10$, some flip flops, shorts and a t-shirt, then I’m confident that they would do an about face. The ones that got a good kicking and lived would probably turn out all right.

  • Middle American

    Well, the only logical answer is to put all black men in prison.

    Problem solved.

  • highduke

    Black slaves were also protected from drug and alcohol-related deaths…and STDs, home invasion, rape and gang violence.

  • sbuffalonative

    Alternate headline:

    Prison Is Good For Black Men

  • Anonymous

    To post 3.

    Blacks do get killed in action. Black woman killed in action. Fell off the Navy ship she was on!

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/dates/2011/jan/19/dominique-cruz/

    Poor gal.

    In all fairness, about the right amount of each race are killed in action. Blacks do serve in the infantry contrary to the article that was posted a few weeks ago questioning their lack of medals for courage.

    The excuse give was that not many blacks were in the infantry because they were apparently “developing jobs skills for civilian life”. That is bull, blacks are in the infantry. Black are in the infantry because they cannot get a high enough score on the ASVAB to get any other job in the military. Take my word for it, I know.

    See link for pics of those killed in action.

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/

  • Madison Grant

    The fact is many blacks prefer to live in prison. Free food! Free health care/ housing/ clothes!

    No working to pay bills or support a family. No responsibilities.

    In the 1930s a group of young white researchers working for FDR conducted interviews with 3,500 elderly ex-slaves. A sizable minority said they were better off under slavery.

  • Anonymous

    What’s good for white men? No one knows because no one knows and no one seems to care.

  • (AWG) Average White Guy

    Think of incarceration as immediate access to section 8 housing.

  • Anonymous

    3 — Anonymous wrote at 6:59 PM on July 15:

    The blacks also must survive longer in the U.S. Military.

    The TV just showed the latest killed Afghanistan- 9 Whites, 0 blacks.

    Do any blacks fight on the front line?

    Would love to see the racial breakdown of killed and wounded from each war we’ve ever fought.

    Whites do the fighting and dying, so black buck “soldiers” can stay in base getting fat and making babies with the White women.

    Have you ever been to an army base? More mulatto babies there than anywhere. The military isn’t what we’re led to believe. Does anybody know if there is race realism among the White warriors?

    ———

    You must have seen pictures of line companies: Tankers, Infantry, etc.

    And then, ALL the special Ops units: Special Forces, Rangers, Marine Recon, Navy Seals…

    The more “combat ” the MOS, the more white.

    Whites make up, and have made up for as long as the military was “INTEGRATED,” (or denigrated), about 90% of the ranks in combat units.

    The numbers approach 100% in Special Ops, for obvious reasons: higher intelligence, self- discipline, ambition and toughness.

    Most blacks in the military are your clerks, cooks, truck drivers, etc. (Those jobs are very important, and it’s a shame they are so populated by lazy slugs that complain their way up the ranks to blackmail and bully all in their path).

    But with the highest ranking generals and admirals licking black boots to court favor with the powers that be, who can blame an opportunistic black hustler for taking all that the white man stoops to give? They let their women do all the heavy work in Africa…they’ll damn well let the white masters serve THEM over here!

    Just disgusting.

    Apologies to all blacks who serve with dignity and honor. I know you are out there.

    Also, there are a lot of white career slugs. They deserve scorn, too. Mostly, the big brass…the political class, the generals.

    Prove me wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Shows how many black males there are that can’t even be respsonsible for themselves and their own health, let alone their offspring. In prison someone will cook for you and feed you, there are medical facilities available, etc.

  • WR the elder

    No wonder so many black men don’t seem to mind going to prison. It’s not just a way of getting respect in the ‘hood — it’s safer than the ‘hood.

  • Kenelm Digby

    The implications of this report are profound.

    It suggests that, literally, blacks cannot survive without the patronage of Whites, even if the patronage means something as horrible as incarceration.

    It reminds one of the fact that animals kept in captivity generally live much longer than their wild counterparts.

  • Joseph

    Please let’s not joke with ourselves, let’s ask some hard questions,

    How did Haitians do in thier aftermath of earthquake?

    How did Japanese react to the their 10 times worse earthquake + tsunami?

    What about our own Katrina saga vs. tornadoes in mid-west?

    My personal experience in a White-Oriental mixed upscale neigborhood pointed to the same direction. Last year, 2010, severe tornado and floods hit my community. Electricity was cut off for 3 days. No looting, no commotion, just people helping each other, 1 month later, we all had a thankful party to thank each other, as the forefather did 300 years ago.

  • shaunantijihad

    African black societies are all about the individual merging with the group, sharing resources, women etc, and also submitting and being told what to do by an all powerful, tribal Chief. Independence frightens many of them. They are the polar opposite of pioneering Caucasians. How many Blacks or Mestizos go off and climb mount Everest or whatever? None. It’s generally a White, pioneer-spirit thing.

    It’s a real shame the Spanish conquistadors didn’t bring Spanish women with them instead of breeding with the natives, otherwise you’d just have a large, peaceful Spanish-European nation on your Southern border. It just goes to show the vital importance of the sometimes unknown consequences of racial mixing doesn’t it? Except that racial mixing with low IQ blacks has a perfectly well understood consequence – IQ decimation.

    Back on topic, this is why prison is reasonably tolerable and in this report actually beneficial for blacks but hell on earth for freedom loving Whites.

  • Hal L

    Why is this so puzzling?

    I’ve heard it called ‘Black College’, and in general, its regarded as a given that the college educated live longer and healthier than those with only HS diplomas…

  • ProudtobeWhite

    Prisons are just criminal warehouses, where we stockpile blacks to keep them off the streets for a while. Many contract AIDS in the joint and come out meaner and less employable than when they went in. It’s just a way if sapping years from their lives. If there were only a way to harness this wasted time…

  • Lauren

    Plus, blacks can drop the whole ‘Downlow’ thing, and have all the homosexual relations they want, without having to deny it.

    Last weekend, in the Locker Room, my Husband overheard a very loud conversation between a black who worked in the prison system, and someone on his team. Very Loud.

    The Prison warden/guard/whatever was describing gang rape, in a way that lead DH to wonder whether there were not elements of fantasy and/or complicity involved. Being mean/dominant/brutal are apparently key enhancers to ‘the act’ for black males.

    I have to wonder how many White Men die shortly after incarceration (like maybe they’re released to die outside prison…thereby making the numbers look better). And how many die, eventually, as a result of their prison ‘experiences’?

    I’d like to see the numbers.

  • 1618 A.D.

    Add one more to the longevity stats for blacks in prison.

    Yesterday, a black “security” guard in expensive Midtown Atlanta shot THREE White girls who worked in the building he “guarded”. Word is that he was known to be aggressively interested in the girls who worked in the building.

    Poor Brittany Watts, his victim. He stalked her in the parking deck, and when she must have refused his intent, he shot her dead. Add your daily tally of White girls killed by blacks.

    He stole her car and fled the parking garage, stopping on the way out to shoot two more White girls on the sidewalk. Witness say he had a crazy look in his eyes. How could they tell? Isn’t that normal for Diversity? Were the witnesses projecting their own racist stereotypes onto the scene?

    The two survivors have yet to be interviews on TV. We can’t find local posts of any of the White girls photos- only very brief views on the local TV news.

    And of course, NOBODY is mentioning the racially motivated stalking, murdering, and other shootings. Nobody in Atlanta mentions race unless they are complaining about their burdens of White privilege that call them to “do more”.

    Sorry, but “doing more” for the murder victim comes a little too late. Her White privilege was extinguished with extreme prejudice. One less Whitey to spread those racist White genes to another generation.

    So now the perp will head to Black University to live a long, typical, protected life term sentence, until parole by a White judge in the future.

    Maybe the saddest part is that the White victims were most likely liberals. Any White working in Atlanta voted for Obama.

    http://goo.gl/kawh2

    Midtown triple shooting suspect waives right to hearing

  • 1618 A.D.

    The White girl killed by the Diversity who was “guarding” her-

    http://goo.gl/2WG6C

    Add her to the Atlanta Diversity Curse list:

    Julie Love, killed by Atlanta Diversity (story lasted because took long time to find killer)-

    http://goo.gl/pEMtt

    Dr. Eugenia Calle, killed by Atlanta Diversity (the story disappeared as soon as arrest made- White victims of blacks are never again discussed in Atlanta after the arrest- we’re “too busy to hate”)-

    http://goo.gl/fyxZa

  • Anonymous

    He’s on the case already- http://goo.gl/acJxa

  • Soprano Fan

    To Anonymous (re post #3):

    I can partially answer your question. According to Wikipedia, out of 416,000 American military deaths in World War II, only 708 were black. That’s a piddling small number.

    Of course, it must be remembered that the military was segregated in those days. Blackss normally didn’t serve in the front lines. And YET, all we hear about is the “Tuskegee Airmen this, and the Tuskegee Airmen that”, as if the Tuskegee airmen single handedly won the Second World War.

    On the other hand, the U.S. lost in Vietnam. I’ve always wondered if the blacks in the military in that conflict, weren’t a contributing factor.

  • jewamongyou

    In this respect, black males are like certain wild animals. I wrote about this here:

    http://goo.gl/WlOAX

  • olewhitelady

    The black security guard who killed one white woman and wounded two more has an African first and last name: Nkosi Thandiwe. I’ll assume, therefore, that he’s an immigrant from Africa. In other words, he’s uncivilized to Western ways. In the motherland, he was probably told that white women in America and Europe just love primitive black dudes and will go out with any of the same who ask them. Thus, if Ms. Watts spurned his advances, regardless of how politely, it was an overt personal affront to him. He’d been dissed, man!

  • Istvan

    22 — Lauren at 5:00 PM on July 16:

    This is one thing you can blame Ruth Bader Ginsberg for. When California tried to segregate it’s prisons by race to cut down on violence and the danger to both inmates and employees Ginsberg argued that it would be a violation of black and Hispanic civil rights to not be in an integrated prison. Thomas wrote the dissenting opinion and was fairly blunt about what happens to white inmates when subjected to black inmates in prison, where they are usually the minority.

    Ginsberg supports the rape and torture of white inmates. I bet that if blacks were the primary victims of inter-racial abuse her decision would have been very different. Not all blacks are our foes and even worse it isn’t blacks who are our worst enemies. I have often wondered what would happen if a Governor stood his ground, defied the Supreme Court and segregated the prisons? Would the Feds send in troops like they did in the 50s and 60s to desegregate the schools? Would Federal Officials actually come out and say “we believe that black inmates have a right to rape white inmates”?

  • Question Diversity

    26 Soprano Fan:

    I don’t think it’s a coincidence that we haven’t won anything close to a decisive military victory against anything close to a worthy enemy since the forced integration of the military, but I don’t think the cause and effect is that cut and dry, save in some anecdotal circumstances. At about the time of forced integration, we also got out of the business of winning wars and into the business of therapeutic empire building, which is a calling which eschews concepts like victory and surrender treaties. I do think that racial universalism and the military as international social workers doctrine go hand in hand.

  • highduke

    Sad the discussion here turned to using imprisoned White criminals as examples for pro-WN arguments. Very immoral. Sending White criminals to be abused by Black criminals in prison is a great form of punishment. Aww…is a White biker rapist & drug dealing alcoholic wife-beater getting raped by D’Qwan, Barkavius, Crashawn & posse? I hope so. Dont make martyrs of your own criminals!

  • olewhitelady

    Istavan #29:

    I believe the CA prisons are still racially segregated. The authorities are apparently simply dragging their feet, knowing that all hell will break out the moment blacks and Hispanics are within reach of one another. From what I hear and read, it’s the blacks who are most fearful of the integration, since Hispanics outnumber them in CA. And in all Western states that have a significant illegal population, the latter target the chicanos as well.

    I guess some loony liberal do-gooder will soon win a suit against CA regarding the failure to desegregate prisons, and then it will be riot after riot after riot.

  • john

    Clearly there is only one proper and defensible response to this revelation: All black males should be incarcerated immediately for their own protection. No thinking and compassionate society could do less.

  • Jimmy Stubble

    Here is the link for war deaths by race. The Vietnam War is interesting because the Black percentage is 12.4%. Al Sharpton and the media try to portray the percentage at 60%.

    http://goo.gl/MghiI

  • Anonymous

    He’s headed to prison for life until parole. But his TNB is good for a moral to the story-

    What a difference Diversity makes in helping us atone for the sins of segregation!

    These two entries are next to each other in the guestbook for her wedding, heartbreaking:

    from: Renda Getelman 7/16/2011

    Words cannot express the sadness. I just remembered this site. My heart goes out to Brian and family.

    from: Cindy Owens 11/8/2008

    TODAY IS THE DAY!!!! IT HAS ALL BEEN WONDERFUL!!!! HAVE A FABULOUS HONEYMOON!!! SEE YOU SOON!!

    http://goo.gl/o2Xcu

  • Bantu Education

    Swift public execution would be much better and cheaper than long prison sentences for all the obvious reasons. However, I dont believe in capital punishment either because for the worst criminals a quick relatively painless death is a far too lenient punishment and dead criminals cannot repay the damage they have done. The only way to make brutal criminals useful to society is to use them as “guinea-pigs” for the testing of new cancer drugs, etc., thus bringing new drugs and treatments to the public years quicker than the present long-winded and immoral system of testing on innocent animals.

    Sadly and incomprehensibly (maybe misplaced religious hang-ups?) even Amren readers might at first baulk at such a suggestion. OK, here´s the compromise. Lets give the beasts themselves a choice.

    Option 1) A tough 19th century prison regime with 12 hours a day of hard-labour and harsh corporal punishment for trouble-makers and intransigence. Definitely no TV, no gym, nothing better than bread and thin soup to eat – zero luxuries, no privileges, no molly-coddling. At any point of incarceration the felon could change his mind and opt for options 2 or 3 below.

    Option 2) Castration and a good public whipping with a cat-o-nine tails then let free with a brand on the forehead.

    Option 3) A soft prison environment in return for agreeing to be subjected to drug testing. The degree of riskiness would be graded according to the severity of the prisoners crimes.

    Which option would you choose..?

  • Anonymous

    If Black and White folk lived separately then each would live longer and happier lives. In the first instance, it’s unfair for blacks to be dressed up as westerners and expected to fill our shoes in society as our equals, and this is because Blacks do what Black genes tell them to do, to the extent that genes do determine ones behavior.

    In the second instance, it’s unbearable for whites to live around any race of people who are as violent and dangerous as Blacks. No sooner would it be of the best interests of whites to live and interact with wolves or mountain lions than it would be for us to live around blacks. Have you ever noticed how hard it has become to try and avoid blacks in society? They’re virtually everywhere you look now. They and the Mestizo population will aggravate white separatists even more as their numbers continue to rise. White society as a whole is gong to become more and more racist overall with each passing day, henceforth from the Obama Presidential era, and onwards.

    By my estimates, the faster whites run out of all white communities devoid of mestizos, blacks, and other undesirable racial groups, then the faster racial separatist sentiment will culminate. There’s a reason why over half of all ‘racist’ groups in America were once positioned along the I-5 in California’s central valley; because Mexicans migrants moved in and bred in that region so much faster than virtually any other area of the country. If I could bus in white social Marxist college students into black inner city neighborhoods at 2am and drop them off on a street corner with 10$, some flip flops, shorts and a t-shirt, then I’m confident that they would do an about face. The ones that got a good kicking and lived would probably turn out all right.

    African black societies are all about the individual merging with the group, sharing resources, women etc, and also submitting and being told what to do by an all powerful, tribal Chief. Independence frightens many of them. They are the polar opposite of pioneering Caucasians. How many Blacks or Mestizos go off and climb mount Everest or whatever? None. It’s generally a White, pioneer-spirit thing.

    It’s a real shame the Spanish conquistadors didn’t bring Spanish women with them instead of breeding with the natives, otherwise you’d just have a large, peaceful Spanish-European nation on your Southern border. It just goes to show the vital importance of the sometimes unknown consequences of racial mixing doesn’t it? Except that racial mixing with low IQ blacks has a perfectly well understood consequence – IQ decimation.

    Back on topic, this is why prison is reasonably tolerable and in this report actually beneficial for blacks but hell on earth for freedom loving Whites.

  • Pete

    Lauren wrote:

    Plus, blacks can drop the whole ‘Downlow’ thing, and have all the homosexual relations they want, without having to deny it.

    Lauren:

    I agree, but the fact is that there are FAR MORE White men on the down low than black men.

  • Jack

    “If it can be done (in prison), then certainly it can happen outside of prison,” Patterson, who wasn’t linked to the new work, told Reuters Health.

    Laughable conclusion.

    The only reason that happens in prison is because their behavior is CONTROLLED.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    I guess some loony liberal do-gooder will soon win a suit against CA regarding the failure to desegregate prisons, and then it will be riot after riot after riot.

    Right on the money.

    But this is unacceptable to the New World Warriors! According to (who else), The UC Berkeley Center of Justice as reported by (where else) The SF Comical:

    ‘It’s not a simple problem, but progress could be faster,’ said Barry Krisberg, a fellow at the UC Berkeley Center for Criminal Justice. ‘How can we continue to condone overt segregation in any (state-supported) accommodations?’

    Good idea there, Barry. And make sure you don’t listen to those racist, backwards prison officials who are so beneath you! They only work in the prisons each and every day so how would THEY know anything about why it is necessary to segregate violent, racist prisoners? YOU, far away from any prisoners, and safe in your ivory tower, will use the courts to ram through your warped ideals:

    ‘It was just a desire to keep people from killing each other,’ said corrections department spokeswoman Terry Thornton.

    You should named in any lawsuit where one “celly” rapes or kills another of a different race due to forced integration.

    Bon

  • Tom

    Trying to make ANY type of a point with blacks, involving statistics is a total waste of time. They have no idea why out of 1,000,000 non-blacks on some kind of freebie program 10,000 non-blacks are on the take and among 50,000 blacks 10,000 are on the take they think it is an equal deal.

    blacks although they should be free do not belong living here in America among a civilized group of people, it is just that simple and I didn’t say it first Thomas Jefferson our 3rd. President did.

    He said if we were to allow them to infiltrate the non black races they would Destroy Them and be a Curse Upon Them.

    He knew this 200 years ago.

  • François

    @ Pete (38):

    You wrote

    “I agree, but the fact is that there are FAR MORE White men on the down low than black men.”

    Says who? Did you get a scientific research grant, and actually conduct research on that?

    What makes you an expert on such things, Pete?

  • Anonymous

    That’s what the guys, especially the drug users told me when I was a Probation officer. Nutritious food, plenty of rest and sleep, regular medical care a gym, sports, regular showers it all helps. Alchocol and drugs are available in prisons but the hustling to get them is often not worth it.

  • *TOBY*

    Maybe they live longer because in prison they often find True Love with their cellmate?