Calling the Election for Obama
Mike Grano, Special to AR News , Nov. 6, 2008
Media liberals are not exactly objective observers on the subjects of race and politics, and the election night coverage of the 2008 presidential election brought out their biases for all to see.
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews set the stage for partisan coverage before the results even came in, saying, “the whole world is watching to see if we are going to be the only Western nation to get it right”—”getting it right” means a majority-white country electing a black president. But things really picked up the moment Mr. Obama’s election became official. It was “the passing of the old order,” crowed an anchor on CNN, and black political analyst Roland Martin, also of CNN, explained that “we can now entrust this generation with the leadership of the country.”
Mr. Martin’s colleague, Gloria Borger, worried that “white voters in Confederate states still voted for McCain by two to one,” but she found solace in the fact that “out West, changing demographics are making this a different country.” She concluded her analysis by dismissing the GOP as “monochrome.” CNN’s Soledad O’Brien, a half-white, half-Hispanic reporter made the same point: “The face of America is changing. And that face doesn’t look like Joe the Plumber.”
MSNBC, the most leftist of the major networks, openly celebrated the results. Commentator Rachel Maddow and black Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson broke down in tears over the victory of the Great Helmsman. Mr. Robinson, notorious for defending Duke lacrosse hoaxer Crystal Gail Mangum, sobbed that he was so glad his parents were still alive to see the golden moment.
Her voice breaking, Miss Maddow offered a quick history lesson. “The ideas of America—a meritocracy and a leading light of democracy—have been built on a house of cards. Slavery built our Capitol and our national firmament.” Apparently Mr. Obama will steady our shaky foundations.
MSNBC commentator Keith Olberman compared the election of Obama to the U.S. landing on the moon and noted we are now “a different sort of democracy.” He saw the election as a necessary sequel to the Civil War and “all the small, little murders 100 year after” but was pleased to note that after a civil rights movement into which “too many Americans had to be dragged kicking and screaming,” this step in our redemption was relatively painless.
Black Georgia congressman John Lewis, who had compared John McCain and Sarah Palin to George Wallace, called the election of Obama a “nonviolent revolution.” He remembered as a schoolboy looking up above the chalkboard at all the pictures of past presidents and thinking that none looked like him.
Obama’s victory in Virginia particularly excited liberals. Mr. Matthews noted that Richmond was the capitol of the Confederacy and still has monuments to Confederate heroes. For a black man to win the state means “this is a different country than the one I grew up in.” Virginia Governor Tim Kaine was more blunt: “Old Virginny is dead.”
Fox News, the only conservative network, was more restrained but still gushed over the new president. Black commentator Juan Williams has often been critical of Mr. Obama, but said his victory was not just an important page in American history. “It may be the cover of the history book.”
National Review’s Michael Potemra roamed New York City on election night recording his thoughts. He admired the “people of all races and ages” celebrating at Congressman Charlie Rangel’s block party, and wrote:
“I ask a rhetorical question: Can we McCain voters, without embarrassment, shed a tear of patriotic joy about the historic significance of what just happened? And I offer a short, rhetorical answer.
“Yes, we can.”
It is worth noting how different the supporters were at the candidates’ respective election-night parties. The McCain crowd was a sea of older white faces listening to country music. The boisterous Obama crowds in Harlem, Times Square, and Chicago were sprinkled with celebrities like Spike Lee and Oprah Winfrey, and attracted massive numbers of both blacks and whites. What would have happened to those whites—some with small children—if Obama had lost?
In his concession speech, McCain played the beautiful loser. He congratulated Obama for overcoming “the old injustices that stained our nation,” and “the cruel and painful bigotry” of the American past. A professor on a local Washington, DC newscast whose name I couldn’t catch called Mr. McCain a “hero” for refusing to bring up Obama’s connections to Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
Overseas media were just as unrestrained. “One Giant Step for Mankind” read the front page of England’s Sun newspaper. An article on the London Telegraph website read: “Barack Obama Victory Allows Britain to Love US Again.” The Times modestly headlined the victory, “The New World.”
The French establishment paper Le Monde quoted a happy black Frenchman as saying, “Now I’m going to include a photo with my résumé.” All across Africa, there was dancing and singing in the streets. Kenyans, especially, gloried in their kinsman’s victory, and the government declared a national holiday to let them celebrate.
If the fawning coverage Mr. Obama has enjoyed is any indication, the media—all around the world—will be about as critical of his administration as Pravda was of Leonid Brezhnev.
(Posted on November 6, 2008)
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“If the fawning coverage Mr. Obama has enjoyed is any indication, the media—all around the world—will be about as critical of his administration as Pravda was of Leonid Brezhnev.”
Absolutely excellent article, but I’m not at all sure the above will occur.
Why?
Because the messiah has inherited one of the worst situations we’ve ever had in this country, with every promise of it getting worse. In fact, we could be in big, big trouble financially in the next few months, which doesn’t mean to say that we aren’t in a hell of a mess right now.
I’m looking for the Obamantion’s advisers to make amends with Iran, Cuba, and Russia, as well as Venezuela, but if they’re as naive as they usually are it’s very possible they’ll screw something up in a huge way which will return us to cold war status.
Russia is moving into Venezuela and will soon be going into Cuba as well, all in response to the Idiot Prince’s neo-con advisers urging him to encroach on Russia’s sphere of influence. Did the neo-con dopes really expect to surround Rusia with new NATO countries while they sat still like good boys and swallowed the outrage? These geniuses are the same ones who think they need to do our thinking for us.
So, along with a country near collapse economically and some very strong adversaries taking counter measures to injustices against them, I doubt there will be much for the rest of the world to admire about the messiah.
Unless, of course, he joins forces with the communist Chinese and Cubans, and the socialist countries, which, as I said is a very real possibility.
Yes, Mr. Grano, you nailed it exactly. Millions of White people who have never done a single bad thing to black people went around feeling “guilty” because 150 years ago a few people who vaguely resembled them held people who vaguely resembled today’s blacks in slavery. Barack Obama’s candidacy gave them the opportunity to “make amends” for something they (and most likely their ancestors) never did.
Isn’t it wonderful to feel so noble, all you White saps? You didn’t read up on the Mulatto Messiah’s history, his ties to extreme leftists, his attempts to hide key facts about his life from the electorate. You just listened to his booming faux colored preacher baritone, swooned, then trooped to the polls to vote for this mountebank. First comes election, then comes “reparations for slavery,” and a host of other things we won’t like — mark my words. You’ll wish you’d never heard of Barack Hussein Obama.
“If the fawning coverage Mr. Obama has enjoyed is any indication, the media—all around the world—will be about as critical of his administration as Pravda was of Leonid Brezhnev.”
And for the same reasons; more or less. But definitely with the same results.
When a people lack the intelligence, maturity, and honesty, to confront a complicated problem or problems (like the many we face today) with the patience and humility they require - they discharge the tension that accumulates in sentimental emotions and easy answers - and guard their shallowness with a sanctimoniousness bordering on fanaticism, and a fanaticism bordering on violence.
Obviously, if he really were the man for the job, they wouldn’t need to fawn over him. After all, what in the world has fawning got to do with getting the job done?
This celebratory and self-congratulatory excess on the part of the news media will swell in the months ahead; it will diminish somewhat when Obama makes a decision that the far-left finds inappropriate. The press, however, as it did with John Kennedy, will rally around Obamamania to protect their heroic hybrid, the New Messiah, whenever he begins to stumble—as he inevitably will. It is interesting that Obama is surrounding himself with highly competent white experts. He doesn’t have to create an artificial swath of multi-racial and multi-ethnic members of his cabinet to prove he is racially neutral. In some manner, maybe this pragmatism will serve him well in the short and long term.
The road ahead will not be favorable to AR or to any other racially-based group. This site will be monitored by the Thought Police of the new regime. What we say will be at our own peril.
The front page of “Het Laatste Nieuws” (large newspaper in Belgium):
“Eerste president van de wereld”
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“First president of the world”
“The face of America is changing. And that face doesn’t look like Joe the Plumber.”
How true. This is no longer our country. It’s a waste of time to mourn the fact of our dispossession and lament how things used to be. The old America is gone and it isn’t coming back. Demographics are too much against us now. We need to focus on the future. By doing so, we can feel energized, creative and positive, rather than downhearted and discouraged.
Somehow, we must find a separate place for ourselves and we need to begin by talking about separation in as many public forums as possible. The idea of separation is a new and startling idea to many white conservatives, but six months or so under the rule of Obama and a Democrat congress may do much of our work for us in convincing conservatives of the desirability of separation.
Looking ahead to the time when the separatist movement may have hopefully grown into the millions, I have pondered whether or not it would be preferable to take inspiration from the Amish and establish settlements for ourselves in each state or whether it would be best to stage massive demonstrations and strikes to demand partition of the U.S. There are pros and cons to both choices. These are some of the many, many ideas that need to be discussed.
I flipped around the networks, and I had it on regular NBC broadcast network at the time (10 PM Central) that Obama went over 270. As Brian Williams projected BHO as the 44th President, there were several people clapping in the NBC newsroom.
“MSNBC, the most leftist of the major networks, openly celebrated the results. Commentator Rachel Maddow and black Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson broke down in tears over the victory of the Great Helmsman.”
Indeed, they are crying tears of joy now, but will they being doing the same in 2010 and 2012?
I think not!
In fact, Mr. Obama may very well represent “the passing of the old order,” but not as those fools over at CNN would have us believe; he might just represent the old order of multiculturalism at its zenith, before it finally crashes with himself forever remembered as its most “shining superstar?” This would be because unlike his happy-go-lucky days as a senator, he will no longer be able to simply vote “present” when he shows up at work and avoid making unpleasent or unpopular political decisions. He will also find that even a US House and Senate controlled by his party is not always going to go along with him on domestic economic issues which he will be focused on having promised to do so in this election. He will also find (and he should already know this, if he had bothered to read the US Constitution) that he is very limited in his powers domestically by that document and that the majority of his power is concentrated in national security and foreign policy matters. Irregardless of this however, he gets the blame when things are not looking so rosy.
While Mr. Grano makes a good point when he concludes that:
“If the fawning coverage Mr. Obama has enjoyed is any indication, the media—all around the world—will be about as critical of his administration as Pravda was of Leonid Brezhnev.”
He and the readership of AR as a group must realize that the media are also a school of sensationalizing piranhas, who go into a feeding frenzy when a celebrity (and that is all this buffoon really is) begins to show any signs of: failure or weakness. This is particularly true in the political arena when they have had their childish expectations lifted and now “hope” that a “savior” has come to bring them utopia and unite humanity under a common purpose. Unfortunately for Comrade Obama, that is what they expect of him and he has done very little to dissuade them of such notions while running his campaign.
Quite the contrary, he has all but basked in his status as a Marxist demigod.
I will end this little essay by apologizing to those members of the AR community (from Mr. Taylor to my fellow posters straight on down) who called this election so very right. I made a number of predictions, that I thought very sound such as that the old fool McCain would pull this off with a majority of the white vote at about 57% to 62%, or that Michigan and Pennsylvania would be the states that handed it to him. Since these predictions were so stunningly correct, I shall make a few that I hope are equally correct in regard to this charlatan’s presidency.
1.) The media will have no cause to turn on Comrade BO, as he will be a smashing success in every endeavor he embarks upon;
2.) He will not only win a second term in 20012, but a third in 2016 as the US Constitution will be amended to allow to continue to bask in his greatness;
3.) The Republicans will lose seat in the US Congress in both 2010 and 2012;
4.) Ohio and Indiana will never be in the Republican voting bloc again;
5.) Because of Comrade BO’s stunning successes the next President of the USA will be a half Hispanic-half Chinese lesbian with one cyclops eye, thus demonstrating the ever broadening diversity of this country.
Liberalism is a disease for which there is no cure. As it progresses, illness and death is emanate. Southern African countries are proof. White government gives power over to blacks and within a few years, total ruin. Just set back and enjoy the ride.
I just have to wonder about the coincidental juxtaposition of events concerning the financial news this last two weeks and this election.
I have heard so many stories of white people hit and or wiped out in the market who were having their money managed and had no direct input into these investing decisions. They weren’t diversified and are quite suspicious. I have even heard this from some strangers and they suspect fraud.
Not everybody lost everything, did they!?
the trick will be to figure out a way to talk about race without getting censored. in some ways this is a great opening for whites who have been told to shut up and not be critical. imagine what a hard time obama will have defending affirmative action or illegal immigration. he can’t. my guess is that he will use white surrogates to attack any white criticism so as not to look defensive or “racist”.
furthermore, we need to develop a new slang as a way of addressing things that will be obvious but unmentionable. make it pajorative but funny. can anyone think up a cute name for black racism or black on white violence?
While I fully expected Obama to win, the fawning coverage on election night was so sickening I had to get as far from a television set as possible to avoid losing my supper. It’s not just AmRen that noticed the media adoration—even Saturday Night Live spoofed it.
McCain’s concession speech was practically an admission that voting for Obama rather than himself was the only good and noble thing to do. So to have voted for McCain, we can conclude that Americans would only have perpetuated “the old injustices that stained our nation,” and “the cruel and painful bigotry?” Does anyone wonder why McCain lost?
I can only hope that the message that a non-white can do no wrong, the media adoration, the Hispanic support of Obama, etc etc will be just a few of the thousand insults that finally wake the GOP up.
“Virginia Governor Tim Kaine was more blunt: “Old Virginny is dead.””
This angers and saddens me. Why the jubilation over the election of a colored person as commander-in-chief of a superpower that was founded and nurtured by people from the British Isles and central and northern Europe? Suicidal, eh? Or is this just a *public* reaction to this unholy nightmare?
Let us all hope that the media stays biased for Obama. Nothing would help out the White Cause more. We need Whites to see the double standard in this country. I think it was Winston Churchill who said that if you’re not a liberal by the time you’re twenty, you don’t have a heart, if you’re not a conservative by the time you’re forty, you don’t have a brain. I’m a young person in my twenties. When I first started paying attention to politics, I was very liberal and considered myself a Democrat. That has changed. Years of following the government have started to set in. I see this country for what it really is. Young voters are new to the political arena. The only presidency people in their twenties have a personal memory of is George Bush’s. They haven’t had time to see Democrats and Blacks for what they are. If you’ve read most of the articles on this site like I have, or simply paid attention to what’s going on around you, you’ll have noticed that America is very segregated. Most young Whites today only know a handful of Blacks, and those were Suburban Blacks who are very different from Urban Blacks who make up the majority of the Black Community. These young Whites have never witnessed racial discrimination or injustice first hand, it’s something we’re told that once occurred. Young Whites are still very green, they hold idealistic views of the world. Obama came along just as so many White Americans were coming of age. Obama created a movement that seemed universal. Most young Whites jumped at the chance to be part of something bigger, and to change the world.
With all of that said, these young voters are fixing to learn a very hard lesson about the world. They’re going to see Obama for what he really is very soon. They’re going to see what Blacks are really like very soon. Whites were just as much a part of Obama’s victory as anybody else. Without these people, Obama never could have won. When Obama enacts policies that only help Blacks, and Blacks continue to scream racism about every little thing, young Whites will remember that they voted for Obama. They’ll say, how can you accuse us of being racist? We were right there with you. Young Whites never did anything to Blacks, and young Blacks never had anything done to them. This new generation of Whites will realize quickly what the racial situation in this country is like. They’ll start to pay more attention when people like Jared Taylor try to warn them that Whites are fixing to be outnumbered in our own country. The generation of Whites who are now in their teens or younger will grow up in an America that is led by a Mulatto, and openly discriminates against Whites, while screaming White Racism at the same time. I think things are fixing to change. Maybe that’s the idealism of me being young, but I think a new day is dawning. All people become start out idealistic, but end up cynical. How great is it for the White Nationalist Cause that the last generation of White Americans who will have large enough numbers to take control of their own destiny will become cynical about politics during a Black Presidency where race will surely be a central theme. As ironic as it sounds, Obama is the last hope for White People. May he bring this country down so we can rebuild it, that’s my prayer.
FOX wasn’t gushing; the mood was noticably dour. Juan Williams was an exception for obvious reasons — he was probably restraining his jubilation. Hopefully the result will awaken a few more on the mainstream right, despite Karl Rove’s best efforts to mislead them.
Here in Australia I watched the ABC and CNN coverage, and after the result was called looked over at the Fox news perspective for the autopsy.http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=661741
True enough, it is a different country than I grew up in, and I am so ashamed after the death blow that was delivered Tuesday night. I really don’t considered myself an American anymore, actually with the direction the country is taking, I’m not so sure I want to be considered an American anymore. I really don’t see much hope for the third world version of Amerika. But, the whites did it to themselves. For the record, I feel NO white guilt for anything, and I am ashamed of any whites that do. I distrust them more than I do the minorities.
Nice one Mike Grano. They shouldn’t act so surprised. They’ve seen blacks in positions of authority before. In fact, if you look at the map, all the blue in the northern industrial states, one could say a good portion of the white voters there, who have been shut out of work or downsized by affirmative action, voted Democrat for ‘economic’ reasons. The election is a big deal admittedly, but the celebration is a bit out of place. The phrase ‘dancing on one’s grave’ seems more appropriate.
Im sure the whole world is holding it’s breath awaiting the celebration of whites who win in places like Zimbabwe and Thailand.
The world is addicted to white guilt. Or treating us ‘racists’ the way Nazi German dealt with ‘guilty’ Jews.
“there were several people clapping in the NBC newsroom” -Question Diversity As a professional bartender who was coached with a strong sense of propiety and integrity, I am thankful for you pointing out this breach of professional conduct. Pretty disgraceful…
A friend called me yesterday and said she hasn’t watched the news since Obama was declared the winner. Funny, I haven’t either and I used to be a news junkie. I can’t stand to even think of Obama as commander-in-chief or his radical White-hating wife and as the first lady. It makes me want to gag.
I think there’s a good possibility the cable news channels will see a big drop in their ratings. Who wants to watch these traitors anymore?
The Republicans represent “rugged individualism” and survival of the fittest. The Democrats offer a “helping hand” for those with no or little income, as well as free medical care. And now, the country’s largest demographic group, the Boomers, is entering it’s retirement years, with little income and an increasing need for medical care at a time they no longer enjoy the employer-paid insurance they had enjoyed. Thus, once again, the Boomers are looking to pass the cost of their support off onto the next generation. And this is a victory for whom?
I often get depressed when white’s are given these guilt trip’s constantly. Psychologically it has to be hard to deal with, I know it is for me. I’ll be ok, I think my mind is free of this bad trip. Hopefully most white’s will experience this also.
Gibbon, in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire sets the date for the fall of Rome at 476 A.D. The people of what was left of the empire had no sense that the empire had “fallen.” There was just a new emperor.
From the distance of centuries, Gibbon points to the year 476 because Odoacer took the throne then. Odoacer was the first non-Roman emperor. He came from the Germanic invaders who had come into the country; they were only looking to do work that the Romans themselves wouldn’t do, which in those days was serve in the army. Odoacer honored all the Roman institutions, and the Romans in Senate and native Roman people supported him.
All this nauseating adulation may be somewhat short-lived. Reality must hit home sooner or later. Alas, Obama hasn’t really accomplished anything - he won a glorified popularity contest. He represents no great overcoming of “racism and oppression,” but rather is the ultimate affirmative action success story from start to finish. He is a mass-media creation, an empty suit, an idea made flesh, a man who has DONE nothing but be the carefully crafted symbol of the new America, as designed and nurtured by the media, entertainment establishment, schools, churches, and indeed the government itself!
But in the wake of his election, alongside all the gushing and endless racialized gobbeldygook from the chattering classes, the stock market has taken a two day swan-dive of nearly a THOUSAND POINTS! That doesn’t exactly bespeak a whole lot of fiscal confidence in the man who the people(aka Herd)allegedly believed would be their economic savior! Apparently Wall Street isn’t quite ready to bow down before this particular messiah that the Herd and the media are enamored with.
Anyone notice all the gay men in the Obama organization?
Okay, so the “United States” is about to have a (half) black president. So dismantle all of the black race-based groups such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and all the black fraternities such as the Congressional Black Caucus.
From this point forward, every “This country is racist!” comment from an “African-American” can be met with the observation that Barack Hussein Obama is the president.
It doesn’t work that way, though, does it? G
Belle,
I think you’re thinking well. Let’s work toward the future.
The middle part of the USA wants to be white and independent from the cosmopolitan, decadent, Brave New World-style coasts.
I think your solution is a good one to the decline of civilizations as discussed by Toynbee, Spengler and Plato: let’s restart the civilization cycle.
Mournful rhetoric just encourages people to give up, and use that as an excuse to do nothing.
Good points, Belle. And the original article is excellent, as I’ve come to expect from AmRen.
Posted by Robert Kelly at 6:13 PM on November 6
As much as I despise the left, they are right about one thing, America is a nation in decline. I predict the economic situation might take 5 years or more for the climate to improve. With the economy hollowed out, what’s going to generate jobs and wealth? You can only support so many people on welfare and government jobs before the tax base can no longer sustain it. Will the debt burden be so heavy that the US brings home all Armed Forces around the world? Will Europe come under threat from Russia after this happens?
5.) Because of Comrade BO’s stunning successes the next President of the USA will be a half Hispanic-half Chinese lesbian with one cyclops eye, thus demonstrating the ever broadening diversity of this country.
Posted by John PM at 7:19 PM on November 6
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In my sorrow over the state of our country you gave me my only laugh for today! Thank you, dear friend!
Yes, our country is becoming so very, very diverse! I must go out and celebrate the upcoming marginalization of white people this very moment!
However, before the diversity party begins, we really must scold ourselves as a nation for not being more ethnically diverse than we already are, at an even quicker pace. I therefore humbly propose that we encourage our politicians to immediately import 150 million immigrants from each and every non-white country on the planet. Surely when whites are a tiny minority the world will be a better place for all! That is the plan, isn’t it?
It angers me that the very people I protect, are the same ones that sold my country out.
For a number of years, i proudly displayed the American Flag on the front porch of my home, in memory, in large part, of relatives who served (And some who actually fought in wars.) in the various branches of our military.
But after this Tuesday, that flag will no longer be on display.
“It is interesting that Obama is surrounding himself with highly competent white experts.
Posted by Jean-Jacques at 6:26 PM on November 6”
I don’t know, John Kerry and Bobby Kennedy Jr. are not what I would consider competent. Other than that, I agree with your post though.
“True enough, it is a different country than I grew up in, and I am so ashamed after the death blow that was delivered Tuesday night. I really don’t considered myself an American anymore, actually with the direction the country is taking, I’m not so sure I want to be considered an American anymore. I really don’t see much hope for the third world version of Amerika. But, the whites did it to themselves. For the record, I feel NO white guilt for anything, and I am ashamed of any whites that do. I distrust them more than I do the minorities.”
Posted by Roller at 8:48 PM on November 6
Don’t feel bad, there are lots of us out there. We might well constitute an “Invisible Nation.” I have never quite felt I belonged anywhere or benefited by being an American in any way, although I have been told that I have and that I have a White privilege - yeah, that is why I am well educated but unemployed at 56. I have been philosophical but non-religious all my adult life, sought to understand the human delema, etc.
Like you, I have been around long enough to have seen the decline and changes. But take heart, people like you and me, real individuals are who the real Americans are. I am willing to bet that if Steve McQueen were alive, he would have grown disgusted with the Left too. I think the same of James Dean and Elvis Presley. So we are actually in good company, not to mention those brave and courageous Europeans and Americans who suffered so much to build a Nation.
Our time may be ended, but their time will be short. What is going on now is a play. As Oswald Spengler noted in Decline of the West, the idealism of the Liberal cause is beyond acheiving. Obama built himself up and is the focus of an apparent world-wide political movement that has religious overtones. Obama cannot possibly fulfill these aspirations, hopes and dreams. The world has become childlike and ridiculously gullible.
The hard fact is that the world population increases that are not likely to cease, and no doubt have just got a boost as all the horny optimists in the world will have new babies in nine months. There is not enough resources and the planet is already in trouble. Don’t believe that? Hang around a while longer.
I have studied history all my life and once dedicated myself to the service of my fellow man as a doctor. But I am glad that at least I will live to see the calmination of the journey of mankind. There will be no victors, but cries for the Whites to come back.
“If the fawning coverage Mr. Obama has enjoyed is any indication, the media—all around the world—will be about as critical of his administration as Pravda was of Leonid Brezhnev
glasnost and perestroika , trumpeted as ushering in a new era for a then ailing Soviet society, were enacted only a few years before that country’s/system’s demise.
We could only be so lucky.
“Looking ahead to the time when the separatist movement may have hopefully grown into the millions, I have pondered whether or not it would be preferable to take inspiration from the Amish and establish settlements for ourselves in each state or whether it would be best to stage massive demonstrations and strikes to demand partition of the U.S. There are pros and cons to both choices. These are some of the many, many ideas that need to be discussed. “
Posted by Belle at 7:05 PM on November 6
Interesting,.. I was musing today about how the Amish are likely to be the last all White colony in America. But in the end, they will likely be criticized and cited for being non-inclusive. The Mormon Church used to refuse membership to Blacks, but that has been changed for some time now. I saw an advertisement for the LDS that show a wedding between a Black and a White woman about two years ago.
The problem is that in order to group up, it would require people to be of one mind. Whites are such a mismash of religions and non-religions that it is most likely they would fight amongst themselves. The best we can do in my opinion is teach our children self repsect by teaching them at home about their personal and racial ethnic history. They must feel that they are special to be White and that this is something to take pride in and cherish. Then Whites will have a community as we do here on Amren. We don’t always see eye to eye on all issues, but I think I could bet that they would protect me as a White man from violence if they could.
Of course, if and when things get worse, grouping up for survival will be manditory. I just hope more White women come around and join us. For the chivalric man, woman is the sould of man and without her, there is no present and no future. I have studied chivalry for many years and I believe that basic chivalry is what we need in our White community. But chivalry is much more than men kissing women’s hands and opening doors. Women have their role - a role that most have abandoned in the past 50-60 years.
Women are - or were and need to be, the heart of the community and men their beloved protectors and providers. That is the formula that worked for hundreds if not thousands of years. It is based on biology and common sense. It is only in our artificial and outrageously pampered age that this has changed. Things will have to be let go of and the old respect between the sexes re-established. I still hope a little that our young women will wake up one day and no longer wish to be “hos” and “hot” - the center of attention for gawking men who just want them as masturbation toys, and a the old respect between the sexes will emerge. It still exists some places in Europe, I’ve seen it when I lived there, so it is possible.
I was watching Fox News election night. They called the race for Obama before 10:00 PM central time, waiting only long enough for the polls to close on the West Coast. This was certainly the quickest call I have seen in any election in my lifetime.
I am saddened , perhaps even a bit scared . My America is gone . My fellow whites have jumped on the bandwagon of the destroyers when they sould have followed the example set by the 300 Spartans(diplomatically,figuratively not literally) and now gleefully attack their own like a pack of rabid,liberal ,lackey, politically correct hyenas .
If you listened between the lines of Obama’s acceptance or victory speech , his meaning was frightfully clear . ” You will embrace me as your President or else .” What can we expect ? Law enforced surveys to figure out who voted against him ? Orientation camps ? Be afraid . In the meantime , those celebrities who sought to force feed you their politics , boycott everything they have to offer , right down to Mayberry and Happy Days reruns(two of my favorites , but not anymore).
Posted by Roller at 8:48 PM on November 6:
“True enough, it is a different country than I grew up in, and I am so ashamed after the death blow that was delivered Tuesday night. I really don’t considered myself an American anymore, actually with the direction the country is taking, I’m not so sure I want to be considered an American anymore. I really don’t see much hope for the third world version of Amerika. But, the whites did it to themselves. For the record, I feel NO white guilt for anything, and I am ashamed of any whites that do. I distrust them more than I do the minorities.”
I could not agree more. The subtleties of all the little things that have been lost, such as the essence of trust between fellow Whites, the spirit of unity in small towns and communities, and the smiles on the friendly faces of people who shared in our system of values and cultural beliefs, is quite sad.
Friends, our culture is simply decimated.
As the Liberal academian Robert Putnam noted last year, everyone is withdrawing and closing down in the face of multiculturalism. Trust is at an all time low and falling. The rise of Obama, coupled with all of the Whites who betrayed their race and willing supported him, only exacerbates the sense of isolationism. Very few can be trusted.
Earlier, as I was reading about the growing threat of a cold war with Russia, I found myself wondering if Russia will ultimately emerge to carry the torch of our race and perhaps serve as the liberators of the West someday.
With Russia as a free market state, the ideological differences that once separated it from the West have largely diminished. Russians are our intellectual and cultural equals. Africans are merely the token symbols of misguided altruists and egalitarians.
The media and many Whites fawn over Obama like parents fawn over a baby who learns to stand up on his own for the first time. One wonders why, because Blacks still have not learned to “stand up on their own” as a race. Whites are always right there, holding their hands, and providing positive reinforcement and encouragement when they exhibit desirable behavior, which is how toddlers are treated. Blacks are a race in the permanent custodial care of civilization. The responsible people in the nation pay for the “sins of the Fathers” everyday.
I know some white guys who live in Thailand on retirement visas, and have visited the place a few times myself. Foreigners are not allowed to own property period and everytime you check into a hotel or do any major business you have to show your passport to make sure your visa is current. If not the cops take you down to the nearest airport and place you on the next flight home minus a hefty fine for visa overstay.(Wish we did that to the mexicans.) The locals are friendly and the police will try to protect you from violent crime, but you have NO RIGHTS if you come into a legal conflict with a local. If you get screwed in a financial deal the local mindset is either “you deserved it for being so stupid” or “You’re a rich white guy, so what if you lost a little bit of money.” A lot of foolish baby boomers come there thinking that the same rules that they are used to in the west apply and they ‘invest’ their nest egg in questionable businesses or buy property with the local honey that they’ve fooled themselves into believing ‘loves’ them and they end up losing everything. Suicides amongst niave expats are common and the local news will actually show the face of the dead body splattered at the base of a 10 story condo. Most whites today are utterly clueless that the generocity and fairness they show towards all the non-whites in our society is utterly unreciprocated. They actually think they could ‘immigrate’ to Mexico, India or wherever and get the same deal they get when they come here.
My hunch is that Obama will be a very skillful president. Whether or not he’ll be skillful enough to contain the forces he arouses—-who knows. Not to mention his having to raise a crop in the scorched earth left by Dubya.
One thing for sure: the interesting times I’d hoped to never live in have arrived.
I grew up in the segregated South, and under those social arrangements I think blacks added a lot to white experience. I still feel an affection for blacks that hasn’t been totally erased (just almost) by their depredations since that time.
If we had a stably segregated society, I wouldn’t even have an objection to an occasional black president, if he sincerely supported segregation, and had abilities and policies superior to those of the available white candidates.
To me, the danger is in having a black president that supports our present insane racial arrangements—by virtue of his being black, those arrangements will be cemented into place even more strongly than before.
But at the same time, white consciousness will also rise under a black president. His face will be an inescapable visual aid for whites to relearn that they are white.
It’s going to be sooooooo interesting. I’m hoping O’s attachment to his tribe won’t be as great as I fear it could be, but will be great enough to give him some independence from the tribe that hopes to control him.
This is the end of an era but not the way left thinks.
Belle — I think Pat Buchanan was on to something when he suggested America may “balkanize” at some point in the future; that the country could split into racially divided enclaves or territories. That may sound extreme, but if the demographic situation continues to deteriorate, I think it’s inevitable that the country will divide racially. How that will occur or take place I don’t know, but I do believe white people will not raise their children around blacks and latinos, not in large numbers anyway. To do so would be racial suicide. I think many liberal whites even realize that. This is why I am optimistic about the future. I have my concerns, but I am positive things will turn out in our favor. After all, we white people are western civilization. We will survive and thrive, as we always do.
Maybe 10 months ago, Jared Taylor predicted that Obama would be president and explained why. His prediction was accurate.
Speaking of the media frenzy, NPR’s Cookie Roberts, certified member of the privileged money elite, could hardly restrain her glee mixed with her dislike of white males. She said the government was not just for “white males anymore.” She even brought up approvingly President Obama’s sneer over the “old white men” on our currency. Of course, our currency used to be worth something under those very same old white men.
Finally, she said the Republicans would draw the wrong conclusion from the election and become anti-immigration. This seems odd as Shamnasty John went all out for the Hispanic vote, and yet lost by 70%. Would more pandering to Hispanics have made the difference—according to the twisted logic of former Democratic Majority House leader Bogg’s daughter it would have!
The only hope for salvaging what remains of the original Founders’ vision of America is secession. There is nothing in the Constitution that suggests that withdrawal from the union is forbidden, and in fact several states joined the original union with the stipulation that they could withdraw from it if their citizens so desired. Our Civil War was a bizarre and tragic anomaly that had no basis in the Founders’ intent, and might have been avoided altogether had not the South stupidly fired on Fort Sumpter, igniting the conflagration.
I doubt that Americans today have the stomach for a blood feud, and that should states begin to secede from this now unholy union they could do so peacefully and successfully. Good places to start might be Texas and Alaska.
Excellent post, Winston Smith, and it is great to see young Americans thinking outside the box!
This is a HUGE black cloud with a silver lining… This “presidency” will certainly wake up many young white voters as well as older white voters once Obama’s many one-sided “social justice” policies kick in and blacks still continue to cry racism.
Barack Obama faces a massive pile of his own promises to fulfill, and every different special interest group (especially blacks) will be on his case for one favor or another… Obama has literally painted himself into a corner, and I for one will thoroughly enjoy watching him squirm as he tries to please every crowd. I will also love blaming Barack Obama and his drooling Democrats (as well as our biased media) for each and every coming failure!
I have a feeling that our situation under the Marxist/Liberals will become so unbearable, that this country will soon swing back to the right… And not a FAKE right, like John McCain and his open-border, free-trade cronies, but a real right with real Conservatives!
There is a light at the end of this tunnel…
That’s it.
I have posted here before, and have remarked about a small percentage of Oriental DNA that I have.
I have counseled my children to fold our posterity back into the Oriental race. My wife, even though she is largely German, is quite OK with this. She is as disgusted with Whites as I am.
My son already has a Chinese girlfriend, and hangs around with the super-smart Chinese kids at his school. This had nothing to do with me or my DNA; he just naturally gravitated there, because my son is super-smart, very talented in a non-athletic way, quiet and decent, like the Chinese students.
The whole White world is falling into line behind this Obama, who apparently has arisen as if out of the sea (see Revelations).
I have had it with White people. White people are the fools of the freaking earth.
So you White people—-drink your beer at your frat-house orgies, take your drugs, run around naked to the applause of your fellow White fools, sag your pants way down around your lazy butts in imitation of people who should be in an institution somewhere, imitate their jungle dance-moves and even the way they sing, pay homage to them as your new olympian gods of athletics and sports, don’t take a stand for traditional White holidays and institutions, do your best to ignore the pleas for help of a fellow White as he is literally stomped to death by a small pack of black thugs who you outnumber by three- or four-to-one …
… and above all, keep making money while ignoring philosophy and intelligent religion. Philosophy is the one weapon you could have used against the barbarians who have so easily taken you over.
(This is not directed at the decent White people at AR, who are one drop in a vast, hostile ocean; and will probably not even be posted. While I meant every word of it [even though it is a bit self-indulgent], it is a psychological release.)
Well folks, you have no choice but to keep on fighting. Here is the most important question we need to start thinking about:under what conditions would a majority of White Americans-the ones who vote Republican, the ones who don’t vote and the a percentage of White Liberals who are traumatized by the blessings of diversity-revolt against their racial dispossession within the borders of America. It is important to be very concrete in your answer to this question.
I’ll start with this one:1)a prolonged depression,2)attack on Iran
One side note,numbersusa should start geting over its delusion that there is going to be a White/black/asian coalition against immigration. Non-whites now smell blood.
Obama will be worst president in American history — at least for whites. I hope his presidency sparks racial consciousness among whites.
Received this as email:
Obama at one time or another has supported:
(A) Reparations. Redistributing money from European Americans to blacks, mestizos, and Asians.
(B) Criminalizing white parents who refuse to let their children practice miscegenation.
(C) Using “hate crime” laws to silence any criticism from European Americans.
(D) Using Third World immigration to overwhelm European American majorities.
(E) Maintaining anti-white affirmative action programs
” The love affair has only just begun. “
A pimp, by nature,never loves the women he has made his whores.
There’s only one reason Obama won this election- - George Bush. Had he been a true conservative Republican, there would’ve never been an Obama victory. Now he gets to retire and live in the lap of luxury complete with secret service for the rest of his life, when in reality he should spend the rest of his life behind bars with a big black guy that’s known to hate White people.
Chittum’s book, Civil War II, has just moved one giant step closer! And I almost have to agree with “posted at 9:06pm”. We Whites have no but ourselves to blame for the mess we find ourselves in.
I remember after Nixon was forced out of office, Democrats, and the media, were widely predicting the demise of the Republican Party. Of course, this was followed by Reagan and two Bushes, and twelve years of a Republican Congress. I suspect very strongly that, if an Obama administration is half the tragedy for this country as I suspect it will be, 2012 will put a Republican back in the White House.
“There’s only one reason Obama won this election- - George Bush. Had he been a true conservative Republican, there would’ve never been an Obama victory. Now he gets to retire and live in the lap of luxury complete with secret service for the rest of his life, when in reality he should spend the rest of his life behind bars with a big black guy that’s known to hate White people.”
Posted by Tom S at 10:50 AM on November 7
I agree completely. George W. Bush managed to single-handedly ruin the GOP and any future for White people in this country. What really ended up being the biggest slap in the face is how hard GW and McCain fought for the minorities (especially blacks and mexicans) and when it came time, these same minorities hauled their ungrateful selves to the polls and voted against them. If nothing else, this election pointed the finger to the real racists in this country.
The Republicans played right into the multicultural media game and it was a major factor in costing them the election. Found this article online that talks about Reforming the Republican Party: http://paleoconservatist.blogspot.com/2008/11/republican-party-reform-its-now-or.html
I have a feeling that the honeymoon our country is having with Obama will wear off quicker than most people realize. And it won’t just wear off with Obama but with blacks in general.
For one thing, Obama will now be on the defensive not the offensive. What will he do with affirmative action? How about black crime and violence? Or black children born out of wedlock? Acorn? Immigration v Unemployment?
It will be much harder to blame whitey.
“The boisterous Obama crowds in Harlem, Times Square, and Chicago were sprinkled with celebrities like Spike Lee and Oprah Winfrey, and attracted massive numbers of both blacks and whites. What would have happened to those whites—some with small children—if Obama had lost?”
The author is right. I was thinking the same thing. Nice white people from the suburbs are so naive. Surely they remember the LA riots? What makes them think they’d be spared?
Now it turns out that the unprecedented numbers of Obama young volunteers were secretly PAID. This simple trick was a key component in George Soros’Orange Revolution in Ukraine where it seemed like every young person in the country backed th Orange Revolution.
When Cheney in Vilnius vowed that there would be more color revolutions, naming Russia in particular, who ever thought (I did not) that there would be a color revolution, the “Blue Revolution” in the United States using the color revolution tactics (and remembering that there have been several types of color revolutions) that proved so successful in Ukraine and Kyrgyzstan.
I suspect the type of color revolution we have had here is of the Orange/Tulip variety (that is Ukraine/Kyrgyzstan) since those countries are evenly divided ethnically. Those countries entered a period of divided governmnt and paralysis after the color revolutions… but neither faced amnesty.
History has shown that, in the USA, when economic times are bad, the electorate will, in its desperation, turn to the candidate who does NOT represent the status quo, even if he has significant physical/moral flaws. Consider:
In 1840, voters turned out Martin Van Buren, and elected William Henry Harrison, a man, who, while he was a war hero, NEVER HELD a single elective office prior to the presidency. The Panic of 1837 was a factor.
In 1860, voters brought in the extremely ugly Abraham Lincoln, who was derided as a buffoon and clown by his opponents. The looming Civil War, brought about in NO SMALL MEASURE by economic strife playing a part. The slavery thing was only a part of it.
In 1920, gripped by inflation, after WWI, the nation put in Warren Harding, a man of questionable ethics, a playboy, and a man who was rumored to be part black.
In 1932, the nation elected FDR, a polio victim, who hid his wheelchair from the public eye. The Great Depression and the unpopularity of Prohibition (forced down the throats of America by women’s temperance unions, mostly) were, of course, factors.
In 1980, the nation elected Ronald Reagan, who espoused virtually the same policies championed by the man it rejected in 1964, Barry Goldwater. High inflation, interest rates and the hostage situation in Iran were factors.
In 1992, the electorate went for Bill Clinton, who certainly had questionable ethics and moral problems. These were overlooked in part, by the economic clime.
Now, we have Obama. In its eagerness to sweep out the vestiges of the Bush II legacy, this country put in a man who all but proclaims himself to be the Messiah (maybe that’s why 78% of Jews voted for him), even if he is Bantu.
We may well need to exercise our Second Amendment rights more than ever, now that the Supreme Court has ruled that it’s an individual right. On other websites, it’s been mentioned that Obama will install a ‘Civilian National Security Operations” force, made up of Black Panther pseudo-military types, in an effort to confiscate guns, when he feels the time is right.
The Second Amendment was put into the Constitution by the Founding Fathers for special occasions like this - to resist a tyrannical regime.
Did Obama actually say something to the effect that he was going to “make us love and respect” him in his speech (I didn’t bother watching the election returns)? If so, that is frightening. I was always taught that you can’t make someone love you.
Those of you who saw the 1976 version of “The Omen”, will recall that the Anti-Christ would arise from the world of politics, and he would be born around 1962.
Hmmmm, that time may be at hand…
Amrenners, keep your spirits up, and your guns ready!!
“That’s it.
I have posted here before, and ha…”
I agree. Many people here are expressing remorse, real or for rhetorical effect, over the destruction of America, and the feeling I respond with is…America? I don’t give a damn about America , anymore. Living in America is not the goal, the goal is living in an arrangement of reality such that it will not in the forseeable future move to destroy me, the people I value, and my happiness, or rather, what remains of my happiness that it did not already destroy by demanding that I be worried. And living in America, right now, does not satisfy that goal, because of those bits of its arrangment that are its people, who are overall of such flawed intelligence and character that I cannot care about sparing them, at my expense, any of the sufferings that await them for their being so. I care, not for America, but for those people in it of intelligence and good character enough that they either currently disagree with the course of the nation, or can be made to through a reasonable range of exposure to the ills of it; for both may be the constituency of a living arrangement actually worth a damn.
“I have had it with White people. White people are the fools of the freaking earth.”
Something else I want to mention, prompted by this, is, does anyone else wonder whether the white race is, indeed, a flawed one? Thinking about Victorian England, and its ludicrous denial of sex, and then Christianity as it most often is practiced, and then alls sorts of sexual hysterics which I have come across, in which something not at all harmful becomes in the minds of many a sequence of horrors taken strait from hell, and then this current fanatacism over “diversity” and “change” and “going foward into the light of a new age” idiocy as typified by opposition posters like YesWeCan…all of this makes me think that the white race holds moral behavior absolutely top priority, and that only in those of the most effective intelligences does this translate into moral excellence, while in the rest it instead translates into some degree of overmoralizing — some degree of moral masturbation, that is always destructive. Seeming to support this, I once remember reading a study in which it was found, if I recall correctly, that Northeast Asians, as compared to Caucasians, were more likely to believe that the truth was not absolute, that every side might be correct in some way, whereas the Caucasians were more likely to believe that truth was absolute, and that one side was always right — presumably, I think, their side. This behavior — I am absolutely right and thus will force my beliefs on you — is to be found in every investigation of how our current situation arose. One instance I read of recently and which comes to mind is from the AR article “Selma to Montgomery: 30 Years Later”:
“As invariably happens in racial matters, a group of whites with little experience of blacks saw fit to give instruction on race relations to people with a great deal of experience. Northerners invaded the South, a deeply conservative society, demanding that Southerners change their way of life. To add insult to arrogance, Northerners then proceeded publicly to violate some of the most deeply felt norms of privacy and decency. The self-control — even passivity — of the citizens of Selma and Montgomery is as astonishing as the degeneracy of the demonstrators. Perhaps even Mayor Smitherman, desperately trying to run a city overrun with disorderly demonstrators, harbored thoughts of homicide.”
The article may be found here:
http://www.amren.com/ar/1995/05/index.html
Don’t worry. South Africa has a far more oppressive black nationalist government than Obama can ever be. And many whites are still doing well there. They just ignore the government and don’t consider any of the blacks as their prez. Obama is just not your prez but a phony usurper. Use all the advantages at your disposal, educate yourself, earn money, build capital, store as much of it in Switzerland as you can. Obama will destroy himself just as Mugabe and the ANC are doing. Blacks have had a huge free ride but it is starting to come to an end. As long as blacks were not in charge whites were paying them off. In South Africa whites do not give a hoot for blacks anymore because they no longer have a say in governance. Black governance changes the dynamics in both ways and it does not suit blacks. Black governance has been bad for most blacks in Southern Africa. Only a small elite benefited and are choking on their corruption.
MSNBC commentator Keith Olberman compared the election of Obama to the U.S. landing on the moon and noted we are now “a different sort of democracy.” He saw the election as a necessary sequel to the Civil War and “all the small, little murders 100 year after” but was pleased to note that after a civil rights movement into which “too many Americans had to be dragged kicking and screaming,” this step in our redemption was relatively painless.
Keith Doberman, better known as Mr. Potato Head, commentary is something one would expect from this mutation. “ A new sort of democracy”, wow what a mind. Doberman (not Olberman) decided to rename Communism with a pseudonym, “a new democracy.”
A sequel to the civil war and all the small murders! How so Mr. Doberman? You fail to explain, but throw the same useless Marxist phrases that people like you always say. Always denigrate but never present facts. A major characteristic that mindless communists use.
Most white Americans ancestors did not own or bring Blacks into this country, it was about 2 % of the rich plantation owners, yet had to fight and die in a civil war over these people who should have been sent back to Africa.
Here is another new flash for you, Doberman. Slavery is not condemned in the Bible.
Step in our redemption, redemption for what, being white.
When my white ancestors came to this country they had nothing to do with blacks, worked with their own minds and hands (which is more then I can say for you).
By the way Doberman, when is Obama going to show his real birth certificate? The Electoral College representatives need to see it.
Yes don’t forget the thousands of rapes and murders your fellow backs committed on my people. The new civil war is coming here and your implant from Kenya the stranger Obama will be the catalyst.
Black Georgia congressman John Lewis, who had compared John McCain and Sarah Palin to George Wallace, called the election of Obama a “nonviolent revolution.” He remembered as a schoolboy looking up above the chalkboard at all the pictures of past presidents and thinking that none looked like him.
If MCain had half the backbone of George Wallace, he might have won. It was Mr. Wallace who said, “ If we are forced to integrate today, tomorrow they (the Blacks) will be marrying your sisters tomorrow”.
Tomorrow is now Congress fool Lewis.
It is very informative to see the triumphant jubilation of the mass media. They are now admitting what they were unwilling to say prior to the election — that this election was not about policies (about equally bad for both candidates) but about race, pure and simple. We have the first affirmative action president.
The fact is the voters were so fedup with GW they would have voted any one that was half glib. And could offer “change and hope” No matter what
I am a white South African who knows how you Americans are feeling right now and sympathize with you. After the black ANC party came into power in South Africa in 1994 it took them only a few short years to turn a perfectly good, safe and thriving country into the murder, rape and robbery capital of the world. Government and police corruption is the order of the day and white people are being slaughtered whole sale. In a lot of cases whites cannot even complain to the authorities about crime because we just get told “if you don’t like it get out of South Africa.”
It is however NOT too late for you Americans to reverse the recent events. In my opinion this has to be done with extreme haste.
Good luck and God bless.
I don’t think sucession is a permanant solution. Instead of looking at the state maps look at the county maps of vote tally going either red or blue. Take my birth state of Illinois for instance, it’s really just a red state with a gigantic ghetto in the northeast corner that overwealms the decent people who occupy 95% of the territory with votes. Furthermore, I’ve found most of the downstate whites to be quite aware of the real nature of blacks because all the cities in central Illinois like Peoria, Springfield, Champaign, etc. are essentially large ghettos full of blacks. Unlike the uppermidwest Illinois whites know the blacks as a race, not simply TV fakery like all the black rocket scientists you see on the idiot box. The only issue is the union whites in chicagoland go democratic and the ultra-affluent north suburbs are full of elitest liberals of the Massachusetts variety. A better solution would be to let the multi-culti cities like New York and San Francisco become soveriegn citi states like Singapore or Monaco and the rest of the country can belong to whites.
The truth is the USA can bask in Obama’s election. However, he has to run the country and he has very serious problems ahead of him. A lot of people on here are gloom and doom however just as Obama was voted in, four years later he can be voted out. Bush was voted in and look at how disallusioned people are with him and how disliked he is. If things get bad enough, this may be the wake up call Whites need.
“…Will the debt burden be so heavy that the US brings home all Armed Forces around the world? Will Europe come under threat from Russia after this happens?…”
Posted by at 11:25 PM on November 6
Let’s hope the armed forces ARE called home.
Why on earth is it our job to protect Europe?—it was THEIR choice to dismantle their defenses when the Soviet system imploded and pour the money into their failed socialist policies.
Of course, the Europeans will expect those nice Americans to again send their children to die rescuing them should Russia become aggressive (and it certainly appears that way).
“…Tension between Russia and the West has been heightened by Moscow’s plan to deploy new missiles close to Poland…”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/08/2414077.htm?section=justin
Of course, as Robert Kelly pointed out, what are we to expect when we have neo-con idiots who: “… surrounded Russia with new NATO countries while they sat still like good boys…”
or as Richard Maybury writes:
“…Ever since the fall of the Soviet empire, the understandably paranoid Russians have been watching Nato relentlessly creeping in their direction. In 2004, Nato even absorbed the former Soviet states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania (“the Baltics”). Right on Russia’s border, the Baltics were the pathway Germans used to attack Leningrad (St. Petersburg) in 1941. A million Russians died at Leningrad….”
“…The people of what was left of the empire had no sense that the empire had ‘fallen.’ There was just a new emperor…”
Dagworthy:
They learned soon enough. When the Roman Empire eventually (inevitably) imploded, Europe was plunged into nine centuries of chaos, extreme violence, triablism, murder and anarchy. Is it any wonder that period of time is known as the Dark Ages.
Has a barbarian taken the throne? Ready for the chaos?
Bon
Paul at 5:38 PM on November 7 wrote:
As much as I hate to believe it, I am afraid Paul may be right. Remember S.2731 was just made law this summer. That one bill alone called for spending of over $50 billion over the next 5 years to treat AIDS, malaria and TB in Africa and other 3rd world countries AND to bring infected immigrants and their families to the US. (Interestingly enough, this bill was sponsored in the senate by Biden and co-sponsored by Obama, Kennedy AND McCain.) That particular resolution is just blip on the radar. The floodgates will soon open, since the Obamamessiah is now in the house.
Anyway, I was outraged and blogged about it on my local rag. Got zero response. The locals in my community were too busy discussing the latest episode of “entourage” or some equally idiotic topic.
The majority of whites have no one to blame but themselves for the demise of their once great country. They are too busy watching dancing “stars”, “american idols” and monday nite football, and of course partaking of the liberal marxist kool aid which they drink with enthusiasm.
Sunder wrote: “America? I don’t give a damn about America, anymore. Living in America is not the goal, the goal is living in an arrangement of reality such that it will not in the forseeable future move to destroy me, the people I value, and my happiness,…”
Sunder, as much as I hate to say it, I agree with you. I am so bitterly disappointed and disgusted with my “fellow Americans” and their blind following of their mulatto demigod, their eager embracement of corrupt and vulgar cultures and mores, and their obliviousness to the perils we face that I care not what happens to them! My first concern is with my family and friends, my “kith and kin” if you will. I bear no relationship or commonality with liberal whites who have sold this country and all that it once stood for, all in the name of multiculturalism. They are the enemy.
How difficult it is for the Republicans to win! McCain spent his career catering to Hispanics and Jews and they repaid him with one vote in five.
But unfortunately, that realization (about the white vote) would require some original thinking - something the ossified Republicans aren’t known for. It would necessitate going against the entrenched orthodoxy of pluralism and minority worship which has been sold to the public as the new official doctrine. Doubting the twin gods of Diversity and Equality would be like asking a devout Moslem to question the Koran. Very difficult (and risky) to do!
We, the public, simply know that pluralism and multi-racialism are holy writ handed down from Above, because our politicians and newspapers tell us so on a daily basis. And every TV sitcom, or movie, or advertisement that we see reaffirms their word. Is there any alternate point of view? Not among right-thinking people, certainly! Anything else would be heresy. And very few people would dare to be heretics and risk social ostracism.
Your TV screen is more effective than having a priest and pulpit installed right in your living room to give you a daily non-stop sermon. Just click the switch! That’s why the old religions are being allowed to die out. They have been replaced with something far more effective: electronic mind conditioning.
There is one annoying fly in the ointment: the Internet. That fractious medium has yet to be gotten under control. It threatens the Establishment. But rest assured they are working on it.
“Pat Buchanan …suggested that America may “balkanize” at some point in the future;
As Jupiter said, numbersusa (and all other such groups) must get over their delusion that there is going to be a white/black/asian coalition against immigration. Non-whites now smell blood.
True, everyone realizes - if only deep inside - that this struggle is fundamentally racial… everyone but whites.
Our Annus Horribilis. Not only is the economy tanking, but we have the last vestiges of the hippy sixties ideology playing out with the back drop of an economic meltdown, total societal disintergration and racial ideological homogeneity by whites, could this be any worse? I think not, this is going to end badly and we’re going to be lucky to survive it as a race or a people.
The hippys are actually the smartest people the world has every known or the stupidist, considering historical arrangements, the tried and true organization of societies being time worn and tried versus the pampered and primped baby boomers theoretical arrangements which claim everyone is just a non-racist clamoring to get out. Which one do you think has the greatest probability of being the correct outlook?
I hope for the sake of the Republic that I am wrong about the dire outcomes I envision, but I have a “bug out”, “bug in” and “bug out of country” scenario and I suggest everyone develope their own as well.
I live in CA. and I have to say that this place is unrecognizable from the place of my birth. It is now an polyglot vis a vie blade runner type of place with little cohesion, much insularism and a virtual powder keg. With well armed and organised paramilitary outfits ie.gangs, ready and willing to surface in the absence of any official police presence and in fact may be better armed than the police.
The resident whites are self absorbed and narcisistic with an actual revulsion for ANYTHING to do with white identity or cohesion, they’re primarily concerned if their lattes are hot enough and the leather interior in their gas guzzling SUV plush enough to accommodate their ever expanding rear ends. Along with an acute fiscal crisis watch how this experiment with multiculturism plays out. We’ll be the test for this progressive idea that flies in the face of convention.
We will see if our ancestors got it wrong when they erected borders between countries based on religious,racial, linguistic, etc. differences.
Posted by at 4:00 PM on November 7
Don’t worry. South Africa has a far more oppressive black nationalist government than Obama can ever be. And many whites are still doing well there. They just ignore the government and don’t consider any of the blacks as their prez. Obama is just not your prez but a phony usurper. Use all the advantages at your disposal, educate yourself, earn money, build capital, store as much of it in Switzerland as you can. Obama will destroy himself just as Mugabe and the ANC are doing. Blacks have had a huge free ride but it is starting to come to an end.
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This is not about how much money you can save or where to store it. Its about saving the UNITED STATES of AMERICA from total destruction. Do you not care what happens to your country? Once it lays in ruins, it’s too late to say…”I did not know this would happen”
I am a white South African so i speak from experience. I am assuming you are American.
“If you listened between the lines of Obama’s acceptance or victory speech , his meaning was frightfully clear . ” You will embrace me as your President or else .” What can we expect ? Law enforced surveys to figure out who voted against him ? Orientation camps ? Be afraid . In the meantime , those celebrities who sought to force feed you their politics , boycott everything they have to offer , right down to Mayberry and Happy Days reruns(two of my favorites , but not anymore).”
Posted by at 2:30 AM on November 7
I saw that campaign commerical that Ron Howard did in his support for Obama. I’ve known for sometime that he was a socialist/communist sympathizer. I wondered though if Andy Griffith gave his approval to use his image in that commercial. If he did, “The Andy Griffith Show” will no longer be viewed in my house. I just love all these celebrities who make their millions from the captialist system and then support a socialist for President. But then most of Hollywood makes no sense to me and I definitely do not listen to anything they have to say because most of them are just a bunch of overpaid airheads who can’t put a coherent sentence together unless they were reading if off some script.
There’s only one reason Obama won this election- - George Bush. Had he been a true conservative Republican, there would’ve never been an Obama victory. Now he gets to retire and live in the lap of luxury complete with secret service for the rest of his life, when in reality he should spend the rest of his life behind bars with a big black guy that’s known to hate White people.
Posted by Tom S at 10:50 AM on November 7
Same thing with LBJ. You know, I’ve always voted for Republicans, but at this point I don’t think I’ll vote anymore. At least not until we get a good 3rd party that is conservative, has an isolationist philosophy, will lower taxes to only 10%, get rid of all these entitlement programs, and significantly decrease government spending.
Whiteplight at 12:43 AM on November 7
Thank you for your comments. You are spot on about whites’ difficulties with grouping up. Everybody wants a group composed entirely of people just like themselves. Read the Northwest Migration handbook, and everything sounds great until the author casually mentions that, of course, the North American Republic will have a National Socialist government structure. Your views on chivalry resonate with some people; others (like Sunder?) will accuse you of moralising and consider that a deal-breaker. You have expressed anti-religious views; others will refuse to live in a white community that doesn’t give due respect to their religions. And that’s not counting all the fringes with their own hobby-horses like their “reproductive rights”, “gay pride”, and on and on.
So the first thing to do is decide what are the fundamental values that white people regard as a sine qua non for forming such a group. Then, each person must decide if they can support those values, and moreover, work with others who do not support their whole agenda. I suspect we would find that we just can’t get together. So much easier for black people; they’re so much less complicated, there’s really only one issue for them.
I wish you folks would stop calling Barack Obama a Marxist and a Socialist. The real Socialist in this presidential was Ralph Nader. He recieved 0 $$$$ from Wall Street and corporations. Barack Obama recieved millions of $$$$ from Wall Street and corporations. Barck Obama is manifestly a puppet for the corprations. He is an extension of the corporations and Wall Street. Logically then you should be calling Wall Street and the corporations Marxist and Socialist. Barack Obama is a Capitalist.
By calling Barack Obama a Socialist and Marxist, you take the the spotlight off of powerfull capitalist and Wall Street instituions. And as a consequence, a critical number of White Amricans will keep on voting for the anti-white Republican presidential candidates such as Hindu fifth column element Governor Bobby Jindal for president of American because the Democrats are a bunch of Marxist and communist which they are not.
Someone should ask Joe Guzzardi why it is wrong to be anti-non-white immigrant given the fact that post-1965 non-white immigrants and their children out voted Native Born White Americans on Nov 3 and forced a black racialist upon Native Born White Americans.
The racially inspired euphoria expressed by blacks on tuesday could have very easily been replaced by racially inspired black on white violence on Nov 4. And the first victims of that black on white violence could have been the young white supporters of Barack Obama who came out to worship prophet Obama in that big Chicago park on Nov 4. How ironic would that have been. Think about this. It ain’t over folks. Eventually there is going to be a very big reality check for White Liberals.
McCain spent his career catering to Hispanics and Jews and they repaid him with one vote in five.
I saw a Republican “consultant” being interviewed on TV about a year ago. He was told that 6 out of 10 Hispanics, at least, will always vote Democratic. His solution - bring in more Hispanics. Yes, they are that stupid (or that evil).
I’m not really surprised given the intensive pro-black propaganda whites have been subjected to for the last several decades. Recently I was traveling with a female coworker, a very attractive blond with Nordic features, who expresses her desire to see Obama elected since it “would be so good for them (blacks)” and “it would be a milestone to have a black president.”
Given that Obama garnered 43% of the white votes it’s painfully obvious this woman isn’t alone in her sentiment. Of course, she is a committed Christian and it seems Christians are on a holy mission to aid in the dispossession of their own kind in America and the rest of the world.
When have any of us heard of blacks or other non-whites electing a political candidate because it was good for whites? Try never. The point in all of this is that if a sufficient number of whites think as she does and have a subconscious death wish, then our cause and that of the entire Western world is hopeless.
Giving up is not a solution.
Recognizing that whites need their own space and that multiculturalism doesn’t work — that’s a start.
Bad times come and go. It’s how you respond that matters.
I think we should recognize that cultural decay came first, followed by an emergence of a large left-wing that started importing demographic warfare, and finally, the current mess.
It’s a lot bigger than race, but it irretrievably includes race.
We need to build cultural unity and use that as the basis for our new nation within a nation, until it’s time to secede.
I know that on the Texas secession page I maintain hits have jumped and the emails are literally pouring in. I can barely keep up with them.
A better solution would be to let the multi-culti cities like New York and San Francisco become soveriegn citi states like Singapore or Monaco and the rest of the country can belong to whites.
I agree completely. Whether that’s a permanent solution, or simply an interim measure can be up for discussion. But such an arrangement would be a clear reflection of reality as well as “fair” by anyone’s standards.
To my European descended brothers and sisters, please watch this clip from the movie 300 for some inspiration. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rJZ-STX0x0c
We whites have been out numbered many times before in history and triumphed. And this modern battle is one of thoughts, and we are currently losing.
We all saw this exact same thing in 1992 with Clinton. The euphoric media acting like their chains had finally come off. What happened? Radical gays ruined his first week in office with demands for an immediate payoff with demands to open the military to open homosexuals. It was all down hill from there until the ‘94 congressional election. Radical blacks will torpedo Obama the same way. Gullible white leftists are in for a reckoning.
Anyone notice all the gay men in the Obama organization?
Posted by Freyr at 10:29 PM on November 6
That’s an important point. Why on earth would white leftists expect a third world population to give them European style ‘tolerance’? Same thing with their obsession with Islam. Islam is everything they hate about Christian fundamentalism, only ten times over. And their dedication to the environment? How does that jibe with tens of millions of immigrants who view nature as a giant trash bin? Nonwhites will not inherit the earth. They are programmed to self-destruct and the only thing preventing them from doing so is redistributed white wealth. When that is gone, so are they. If white leftists want to hitch their wagon to that horse, have at it.
so what will the gushers say in a couple of years when the economy is in shambles and Islamist terrorism is robust? It’s the white man’s fault?
Most young Whites today only know a handful of Blacks, and those were Suburban Blacks who are very different from Urban Blacks who make up the majority of the Black Community. These young Whites have never witnessed racial discrimination or injustice first hand, it’s something we’re told that once occurred. Young Whites are still very green, they hold idealistic views of the world
Baby ducks and chicks will walk to a cat, never having known one.
For a number of years, i proudly displayed the American Flag on the front porch of my home, in memory, in large part, of relatives who served (And some who actually fought in wars.) in the various branches of our military.
But after this Tuesday, that flag will no longer be on display.
Good point, I have a U.S. flag I removed from an over run forward fire base in Viet-Nam, totally surprised to find the flag still there!!! I took it and still have it, and it has flown proudly for many years (it still has some blood stain on it) It will not fly again until………………
Check this site out, it came from AR but if you haven’t go look.http://zahell.blogspot.com/
Perhaps one day in a year or two, a gathering could be called for on these pages as we do in the motorcycle world. Pick a place, covertly advertise the coming event and see what happens. Can’t call it anything to do with whites though, and it should be out of reasonable range of lazy blacks. It should emcompass a week end in between welfare check days and maybe in the late fall or winter, the seasons the blacks are most lethargic. I’ll come if I have to leave Iraq or Afghanistan or wherever else I am. Just a thought. Weapons are our friends, get them while we still can.
Whiteplight at 12:43 AM on November 7
Thank you for your comments. You are spot on about whites’ difficulties with grouping up. Everybody wants a group composed entirely of people just like themselves. Read the Northwest Migration handbook, and everything sounds great until the author casually mentions that, of course, the North American Republic will have a National Socialist government structure. Your views on chivalry resonate with some people; others (like Sunder?) will accuse you of moralising and consider that a deal-breaker. You have expressed anti-religious views; others will refuse to live in a white community that doesn’t give due respect to their religions. And that’s not counting all the fringes with their own hobby-horses like their “reproductive rights”, “gay pride”, and on and on.
So the first thing to do is decide what are the fundamental values that white people regard as a sine qua non for forming such a group. Then, each person must decide if they can support those values, and moreover, work with others who do not support their whole agenda. I suspect we would find that we just can’t get together. So much easier for black people; they’re so much less complicated, there’s really only one issue for them.
Posted by at 10:46 AM on November 8
> Everything you say to me is true. In the past, I have encouraged Amreners to return to their indigenous gods and beliefs before they were conquered by a Middle-Eastern religion. I have also acknowledged that some form of socialism would be required to nuture a White community. I remind everyone reading this that this is in fact how the West was settled - communities that helped each other out - barnraisings and the like and a very generous nature. It didn’t always work that way and there were cheaters and theives, etc. But this country was settled and build through brotherhood and a national vision. If that vision is gone, then another one must replace it or the people will fail and be replaced. So although I also often post concerning my doubts that even the human race will continue much longer, I am as pragmatic as anyone. I would like to see the White race survive and thrive. The problem is that we have become spoiled as a people. Our women became greedy and contentious and the men largely are consumed with diversions like professional sports and fishing, etc. The current economic conditions might make some people return to a more humble and realistic mind set. In the pre WW2 era and pioneer periods, men and women needed one another. When we really need one another again, some of these old values will return to the majority. I don’t mind if someone has a religion, but I wouldn’t want to live in a community where they tell me how to think and what to do. To me, as long as the person’s intentions are right, I don’t question their views on the cosmic contruct - although it is interesting to discuss it with interesting, thoughtful people.
Some of today’s so called values will quickly go to the wayside in a truly desperate world. In the days before modern medicine, many people died from infectious diseases and in childbirth. These sorts of problems would quickly return to us in a crash of civilization. I bet few think much about what they would do if they could not longer buy toilet paper. Butt I am sure that time is coming. ;-)
“Good point, I have a U.S. flag I removed from an over run forward fire base in Viet-Nam, totally surprised to find the flag still there!!! I took it and still have it, and it has flown proudly for many years (it still has some blood stain on it) It will not fly again until………………”
Posted by Skip at 5:54 PM on November 10
