Up to 170 Face Murder-Related Charges in Biker Melee

David Montgomery et al., New York Times, May 18, 2015

The police charged about 170 people on Monday in the shootout among rival motorcycle gangs at a busy shopping plaza in this Central Texas city on Sunday that left at least nine bikers dead and 18 others wounded.

Law enforcement officials said the midday gun battle was primarily between the Bandidos and Cossacks gangs, a continuation of a long-running feud between the two groups, though members of the Scimitars–a gang affiliated with the Cossacks–and two other motorcycle clubs were also involved.

The people arrested after the shootout at the Twin Peaks restaurant, in south Waco, were charged with engaging in organized crime linked to capital murder, said Sgt. Patrick Swanton, a Waco Police Department spokesman. It will be up to prosecutors and a grand jury to decide what charges they will ultimately face, but capital murder charges can carry the death penalty.

The episode, which left the restaurant and its parking lot littered with bullet shell casings and blood spatters, was so large and chaotic that for several hours the police were not sure how many people they had detained. Sergeant Swanton said Monday morning that the figure was 192 but he later revised it to 170, warning that it might change again, and said that rather than overwhelm the jail, the police used Waco’s Convention Center as a staging area overnight to hold those arrested.

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With hundreds of bikers gathered at the restaurant, at the Central Texas Marketplace shopping plaza just off Interstate 35, the police anticipated trouble and were out in force before the confrontation. There were 18 Waco officers and four Texas Department of Public Safety officers there, and they closed in “within 30, 45 seconds” of the start of shooting, Sergeant Swanton said.

“There were multiple people on the scene firing weapons at each other,” Sergeant Swanton said. “They then turned on our officers. Our officers returned gunfire, wounding and possibly killing several.”

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The gunfire erupted about 12:15 p.m. on Sunday. Sergeant Swanton said the violence began in a restaurant restroom, and then spilled into the parking lot, initially involving just fists and feet, but escalating quickly to chains, knives, clubs and firearms. He said shots were fired both inside and outside.

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No officers, shoppers or bystanders were hurt. The authorities said their decision to place officers outside the restaurant before the gunfire erupted most likely saved lives.

Both the Bandidos and the Cossacks originated in Texas in the 1960s, according to law enforcement officials and gang historians. Last year, two members of the Bandidos, including the president of the Abilene chapter, were indicted on charges of stabbing two other men, in what the police said was a conflict with the Cossacks.

“The view of the Bandidos is that Texas is their state,” said Terry Katz, vice president of the International Association of Outlaw Motorcycle Gang Investigators, a group of about 600 analysts, investigators, police officers and prosecutors. The Bandidos “are the big dogs of Texas,” he said, but the smaller Cossacks gang was “not going to bow down,” and there has been a series of violent confrontations between them.

Bikers were gathering at the Twin Peaks restaurant for a regional meeting of the Confederation of Clubs and Independents, an umbrella group for rival gangs and other motorcyclists to discuss matters of mutual interest. The Bandidos are part of the confederation, but the Cossacks are not, said Gimmi Jimmy, national ambassador for the Bandidos and chairman of a statewide coalition of motorcycle clubs in Texas.

“We were there not to engage in criminal activity but to discuss and fight for our rights,” Mr. Jimmy said. “The only reason I am not in jail is that I got there late,” Mr. Jimmy said. “We have been doing this for 18 years and we never had a problem.”

He said about 200 bikers were there for the meeting, and about 50 to 60 from rival groups like the Cossacks and Scimitars. One of those killed was a Bandido, he said, and the rest were their opponents.

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In the 1990s, a turf war broke out between gangs aligned with the Bandidos and the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club in Finland, Sweden, Denmark and Norway. Several members of the Bandidos and the Hells Angels were killed or wounded in the Nordic feud. In 1996, a shoulder-launched antitank grenade was fired at a Hells Angels headquarters in Copenhagen, Denmark, killing two people and injuring 15 others. The next year, a bombing destroyed the Norwegian headquarters of the Bandidos gang, killing a passer-by.

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And yet the Bandidos group has at times sought to portray itself as a legitimate organization of nonconformists that had been unfairly targeted by law enforcement. A gang report by the Texas Department of Public Safety issued last year noted that the Bandidos “seek to turn public sentiment in their favor by organizing frequent charity runs.” In 2001, Jan Christensen, who is known as “The Man” and was vice president of the Bandidos’ Northwest Houston chapter at the time, told The Houston Chronicle, “Mainstream America should be more like us. We’re all very honorable men.”

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  • TrueNorthFree

    I binge watched every episode of Sons of Anarchy a few months ago. That is the extent of my knowledge about biker culture.

    • Evette Coutier

      It’s important to note that not one single white rioted in response to police shooting these thugs. Most of us are pleased to see cops apply the necessary force to quickly end this behavior. We’re that a gang of Blacks, there’d be riots and protests, looting and burning, and a call from black leadership to stop racism. We all are thinking that these thugs deserve the death penalty. Hence, the difference between Blacks and Whites.

      • Cheri Rodriguez

        I did happen to catch a picture of some of those arrested. At least one of the bikers was black and a bunch were definitely Hispanic.

      • IceQueen

        You are absolutely right. If you take into account all the black on white crime, and the senseless destruction of life and property by blacks, whites people are remarkably restrained. We understand that vengeance against someone who had nothing to do with a prior crime is wrong. I think that says a lot about us. We are thinking people.

        • Evette Coutier

          And that is exactly my point. We are looking for ways and reasons to avoid violence unless absolutely necessary, and they are looking for any excuse to commit violence.

      • DNA Explains It All

        Do also note, innocent people were NOT gunned down, whites, even “gang members” do somewhat care about the civilization they inhabit.

        • Alexandra1973

          I hear the Mafia has a kind of code of honor. Like, no gunning down innocent children, for example.

    • Hugo

      SOA is absolutely not a genuine portrayal of 1% ers. Its primarily a chick show.

    • Anon

      Most bikers don’t tolerate criminals. Sons of Anarchy is a direct smear of a particular manly subculture. Turn that sick crap off.

      • Yancy Derringer

        The Bandidos and Cossacks are one-percenters, distinct from “most.”

      • rebelcelt

        The Hells Angels and Outlaws , etc. are criminals….Biker gangs are criminal gangs.

        • Alexandra1973

          My uncle is in a motorcycle club, the Detroit Renegades. I guess you could say he’s a biker, rides a Harley and all that.

          The issue my mom has with him is that “he’s racist.” LOL

          • rebelcelt

            I know that there are Clubs and Bikers that are just that. But, there are some seriously criminal Biker Gangs. I would not classify your Uncle as a gang member.

        • IBWHITE

          Probably no worse than your average politician. They’re just a bit more honest about what they do.

    • EuropeanIdentity33

      They’re drug addicts/dealers who sell our women into sexual slavery and their scum because of that. All you need to know about them.

    • IBWHITE

      SOA is a joke as far as outlaw bikers go. Think loose knit mafia regarding motorcycle gangs. They have presidents, sergeant of arms, enforcers that guide the troops while hang-arounds will help them make money. Many of them I’ve met have also been aligned with Aryan Brotherhood while incarcerated.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    They just wanted to be like their brothers, the black bikers.

    • Alexandra1973

      Send them to Myrtle Beach and get a Pay-Per-View event going.

  • MrBiIIGoode .

    This will be the new diversion story used to say whites commit horribe crimes and the police don’t respond with deadly force.

    • TruthBeTold

      They’re already comparing the response to Baltimore.

      www twitchy com/2015/05/17/white-on-white-violence-erupts-as-biker-gang-thugs-kill-9-in-shootout-at-a-waco-texas-restaurant/

      • BleedALot

        That was actually kind of funny. Only because of the way we are all supposed to become pious and concerned when black on black violence is mentioned.

    • DaveMed

      This kind of event happens once in a decade – if that frequently.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Last one that comes to mind is at Harrah’s in Laughlin, NV, between Hells Angels and Mongols in 2002.

        Better would be coverage of what happens during black bike week – but don’t count on the media to report THAT.

        • BleedALot

          I was trapped in traffic a few years ago because of that. It was quite scary.

        • IBWHITE

          “Better would be coverage of what happens during black bike week – but don’t count on the media to report THAT.”
          Or cover a typical weekend in Chicago’s black areas. That’ll make the biker shoot out look like a birthday party.

    • InAFreeCountry

      Cops shot no one in Baltimore, they were given their “safe space” to loot and destroy entire buildings. Cops did shoot these bikers, who did not set the place on fire.

  • TruthBeTold

    The White version of the Bloods and Crips?

    Biker gangs are a sub-culture I want nothing to do with. Bullies on bikes.

    In a word, thugs.

    • JGTThrasher

      Can’t be like the Bloods and Crips. No innocent bystanders were hit.

      • Who Me?

        Crips and Bloods wouldn’t have killed 9 and wounded 18 more of their opponents. The dead and wounded would have all been innocent bystanders, mostly children under 8 yrs. old.

        • Yeah, a White biker at least tries to aim at his opponent, By contrast, black thugs hold the gun sideways and blast away, “pop pop pop…” spraying bullets all over the street, while the black thug is a safe distance away. At least White thugs are not cowards.

          • White bikers do their shooting from very close up, at which point it is just murder.

          • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

            Don’t they do that to make sure they don’t hit any innocent people? Kind of like the Mafia?

          • EuropeanIdentity33

            If they are trying not to hit innocent civilians it isn’t out of any sense of altruism, it’s just practicality. If they kill innocents then the police will come down much harder on them.

          • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

            Well, whatever the reason, at least they spare a moment to think of others. Minorities simply don’t care one way or another.

          • EuropeanIdentity33

            They aren’t thinking of others they are merely thinking of themselves not getting caught by the police. Remember they sell crystal meth and other drugs to innocent people, they couldn’t care less about the public.

          • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

            I am NOT defending crystal meth or selling drugs, but nobody is forcing anyone to buy drugs. They are not behaving like the Latin Kings, Crips, Bloods, or any of the minority gangs, so I am less worried about them. Priorities!

          • Who Me?

            White thugs and criminals are still White in their ability to think logically and plan ahead–at least to some extent. Doesn’t make them any better, just shows they’re different.

          • EuropeanIdentity33

            I agree to an extent but the ability to think and plan ahead can make them even more dangerous than the non-white gangs. The largest and most influential mostly white gang in the world is the Russian Mafia which is also the world’s most powerful and wealthiest group of criminals. While the idiot blacks in the Bloods and Crips will rape, rob and kill in individual cases they generally can’t take an entire countries economies hostage or assassinate high ranking politicians,police figures. Or engage in large scale identity theft and other white collar crimes.

  • For a long time, I dismissed Charles Murray’s book of several years ago, Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010 as sort of a cynical racial make-good, to “atone” for his “sin” of having co-authored The Bell Curve, even though that book really had little to do with race. Now, after news like this, and other similar news recently, I’m starting to wonder if I was wrong and if Murray wasn’t being straight up honest with us.

    For instance, there is an HIV epidemic in several just about lily white (98%+) rural counties in southern Indiana that is a direct result of sharing heroin needles.

    • Evette Coutier

      As bad as our bad are, they are head and shoulders above the bad Blacks.

    • Tarczan

      That may be true, but there are no urban areas totally destroyed by whites. The welfare system exacerbated problems for all races, but more for the blacks.

      • I am a bit troubled that we’re lauding ourselves for being just a little bit better than the lowest common denominator.

        • No, we are saying that even “White trash” are better than most blacks, that’s all. And they are.

          • antiquesunlight

            I agree, but I think the fear is that the percentage of white trash is increasing. Any population will have its deadbeats; there’s no way around that; but we need as few as possible.

          • GeneticsareDestiny

            Yeah, the increase in the percentage of whites who act like this is troubling. I’d rather we didn’t give these people incentives to reproduce and gave incentives to law-abiding middle class whites to reproduce instead, but the chances of that happening anytime soon are low.

            And if we don’t stop them from reproducing at a greater rate than normal whites, the quality of the white American population is just going to keep dropping.

          • Yes, Paul Fussell called this “prole drift” in his wonderful book Class. It was written in the 1980s but still very relevant today (and laugh-out-loud funny).

          • InAFreeCountry

            Low IQ people of all races tend to breed more children than they can afford, the white kids don’t tend to get killed in the streets as often.

          • Yes, they are. But who isn’t?

    • Fair Dinkum

      The white underclass is growing. Many whites are falling out of the middle class and no longer have the resources to maintain middle class lifestyles. All the pathologies so prevalent in the black inner city are now showing up in poor and working class white communities. Except for one: street crime.

      • ZenSouth

        Brought to you by your local Chamber of Commerce, Nafta, Cafta, and TPP trading schemes.

        • My local Chamber of Commerce works hard to keep illegals and their exploiters out of the county. Jobs are prioritized for local hiring and in some cases, the Chamber offers incentives to create make-work positions to keep local residents employed.

          The national CoC is a band of treasonous criminals, however.

      • Whites are destroyed by the environment. If these White people had jobs and better conditions and hope for the future, they would mostly turn out all right. As for blacks, they get all kinds of help and nothing changes them. That is the difference.

        • antiquesunlight

          Eh, not sure I agree. Much of my family until my parents’ generation grew up dirt poor in the middle of nowhere on farms, didn’t have easy lives by any standard, and they never got into serious trouble with the law, if any trouble whatsoever. Most of them were devout churchgoers, active in the community, and most of the men served in the military for some period of time.

          My hypothesis is that whites are being destroyed by government/media propaganda that is constantly pumped into their young heads on TV and in school; by being forced to grow up around loser blacks (and now Mexicans); and especially by the dysgenic welfare system.

          • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

            All of those things, and the lack of church/religion as a moralizing influence. Oh, and drugs.

          • Black and brown scumbaggery is contagious. When it’s glamorized by the MSM and popular culture (which is largely manufactured), our lower-IQ whites will inevitably be afflicted by it. Add to this the increasing rejection of Christianity and church by our people (another product of MSM/Hollywood campaigning, as it’s an arm of neo-Marxist attack) and you see the disaster we have today.

          • antiquesunlight

            I’ve recently started going back to church regularly. I really enjoy it. Planning on getting baptized soon. Never did when I was younger. It’s definitely a civilizing influence and I wish more whites would return home. The media has been remarkably effective at convincing people, especially young people, that Christianity (and religion in general) is stupid. That’s why I think it’s important for Christians to start pushing back harder, intellectually. My church teaches apologetics and comparative religion classes, which are great. I like to watch Richard Swinburne and William Lane Craig on YT etc.

            I believe it was Sam Dickson who said at the AmRen conference that whites need to disengage from society. He’s right, I think. The homeschool movement is a good start, but only a start. I pray every night that whites will recognize everything that’s at stake and start returning to, and congregating around, their religious and cultural roots, wider society be damned.

          • InAFreeCountry

            Churches also tend to be self-segregating, where people choose to worship at a church with a more or less like-minded congregation.
            I was raised Christian, but have been agnostic for a long time. However, I recently had a spiritual episode that I can’t deny and might dip my toe in Church again.

          • I’m happy you shared that. It sounds like we have very similar stories. I was an agnostic until a couple years ago. I had two “religious experiences,” very different in type from each other, and eventually I had to be honest with myself about the implications of those experiences. The Jesus quote in my profile is a “reference” to one of my experiences (the first one). I’ve been slowly tearing down the mental wall of resistance I had about going to church and being Christian for the last couple years.

            My church is probably about 85 or 90% white. There’s more diversity than I would like, but I can deal with it so long as the church remains at least 70 or 80% white. So far, the non-whites I’ve met there have been decent (and mostly foreign).

            Good luck in your search. If you ever want to talk outside AmRen, follow the link in my profile to find my contact info.

          • I did something similar, having been raised outside the church. I go to services every Sunday and am an active member. It’s incredible to see the general quality of people who are genuinely Christian churchgoers compared to those who are unchurched. We all need to be reminded that there are things bigger than ourselves, a greater purpose than our own shabby, individual lives. Working toward that purpose as a team, spiritually or not, is invigorating and healthy.

          • It occurs to me that we created “society” as the anti-white parasites know it. We can also take it away by withdrawing from it entirely.

        • rebelcelt

          During the depression Whites had a very low crime rate. Jobs and better living conditions matter, but ultimately, we as a whites have lost some of our nobility. We cannot blame that on the Blacks. We have to find out who we are again. I think that is where Christianity played a huge part in who we as a people had become.

      • LHathaway

        They must read boards like AmRen where they’ve learned only mutated blacks commit bad crimes.

    • DaveMed

      There have always been low-lives in every race. This is not new. Biker gangs (at least, the criminal ones) are draws for the lowest dregs of society. When you have a self-selected bunch of scum put together in a room, it’s not hard to see where that will lead.

      The Indiana story is different. Rural Whites are often embarrassingly ignorant about all types of science. I don’t know what they are or aren’t teaching in their schools, but something needs to change.

      • By now, everyone with an IQ above retardation level ought to know that sharing needles raises HIV risk.

        • John Smith

          You’d think, but kids still believe sex standing up reduces the chance for pregnancy, as does a douche of Mt. Dew afterward, so we just can’t say how ignorant the kids are. The good thing is that there’s info on the internet that holds the truth, but many are not looking for it.

        • Rural Whites don’t get the attention that urban blacks get. Rural Whites don’t start riots, don’t burn down neighborhoods, don’t cry “racism” and don’t have armies of White liberals to plead their case. So, give them a break.

          • LHathaway

            lol

      • Exuberant Auditor

        Yes, it’s just that whites have a substantially lower percentege of them.

      • LHathaway

        Actually, you have to have a fair amount of money to afford a Harley. If you can’t afford a Harley, girls know right away your broke and are not interested . . . .

    • carriewhite64

      I enjoyed and respected that book. Murray used anecdotal and statistical evidence of trends I see every day. The book was disturbing, but, I think, a true reflection of America’s present situation.

  • baldowl

    Here’s the thing. None of us will defend these bikers as innocent dindu nuffins. Blacks rally around their guilty and revere them as saints.

    • Agree! That is the difference.

    • bilderbuster

      And their big, fat, sobbing Mama’s won’t lead the rallies wailing about how sweet they were and how they were turning their lives around.

      • baldowl

        Truth be told, most of them probably have regular-sized mamas who are extremely and vocally disappointed in their child’s life choices.

    • Spikeygrrl

      I repeat: posters all over this thread are defending the bikers!!!

      (I’m gonna vomit any minute now.)

      • baldowl

        How disappointing.

        • Spikeygrrl

          Yes. It is disappointing. I thought this board was better than that. 🙁

      • Really? Most of the posts I’ve seen are people saying they’re scum who deserve to hang. That’s one of the many superior things about whites: we don’t glorify or make excuses for the evil ones among us.

  • Fair Dinkum

    And strangely enough, no one in the white community is making any excuses for them or blaming their criminal violence on institutional whatever-ism.

    • bilderbuster

      We need more programs for “at risk” bikers.
      There! I did it! That’s how stupid Blacks sound all the time. Every time.

    • Spikeygrrl

      With respect, you need to get your eyes checked. Posters all over this very thread are making excuses for them.

      • Keep Honkin, I’m Reloading

        oh fuk off already…or at least change your channel.

        Do you have that comment in your clipboard?

        • Spikeygrrl

          No, I do not have “oh fuk off already…or at least change your channel” on my clipboard, because I would never use it here or elsewhere. It reveals ignorance, ill temper, no knowledge of ASE grammar/usage, poor manners, and lack of any valid counter-argument.

  • Dr. Rieux

    *Yawn* Still less to fear from these reprobates than from the mollies.

    • Fair Dinkum

      Why should you fear them as much as the mollies? They took it outside. They didn’t attack random bystanders. They didn’t loot and burn stores, and they didn’t cut or puncture the fire hoses of firefighters trying to keep entire blocks from burning down. Nobody made excuses for them, and they haven’t even made excuses for themselves. Generally, you leave them alone, and they’ll leave you alone. Ain’t sayin’ that makes them angels, but I’d rather have them in my neighborhood than you-know-whats.

      • JGTThrasher

        I was in a confrontation with some yoofs back in the late eighties. I was by myself and the only person who came to my aid was a biker. However, I have also met some from a major organisation and they were jerks.

        • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

          I’ve never once had a problem with any bikers. I don’t hang out with them but a polite nod and a smile and they’re always polite and respectful in return. I’ve never felt scared in the least and I’d hope that some would be around if I ever get in trouble with minorities.

          • carriewhite64

            Actually, I asked a biker to escort me to my car one night when a bunch of youths were hanging around in the parking lot of a grocery store. He looked scary, but immediately helped me and we ended up having a long conversation about his travels.

          • Alexandra1973

            I think for the most part bikers are a decent bunch (provided they’re not of the one-percenters). My uncle is an example.

            Just because they ride motorcycles…and on the flip side, criminals are criminals no matter how many wheels they’re riding on or in.

  • MekongDelta69

    All I wanna know is were they invited to Black Biker Week in Myrtle Beach next week?!

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      The media will scream that they are White, bike-riding, jack-boot wearing Nazis far more dangerous than ISIS or other terrorists.

      And the government will agree.

      • BleedALot

        Look at how old some of those guys are!

    • kikz2

      now… that would be something.. a convergence… whew!… i’d hate it for myrtle beach…

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Pity that some fine bikes were damaged in the shoot-out.

  • My best friend in federal prison was a Bandidos patch-member. They are antagonistic to Hell’s Angels in Texas, and apparently hate the Commancheros in Australia. M

    I can not imagine wanting to do that. My old bike was a wartime BMW combination. I always drove it with period helmet and goggles.

    • Cheri Rodriguez

      Used to work with a few Diablos in the late 1980s and early 1990s. They pretty much lay low now ever since the feds went after them hard on RICO charges in the mid-1990s.

    • kikz2

      they took it outside and injured no non-bikers. if the cops had not fired on them, there’d probably not be as many dead. i still wouldn’t have appreciated it in my town, but at least would have had the sense to get the hell outta that shopping center knowing they were there.

      i’m still waiting to hear how the city/police think the little pencil neck mgr of the twin peaks could’ve kept the bikers out of his joint? i believe the term they used was ‘uncooperative’.

      • “Would you gentlemen please leave?
        That’s okay – thanks anyways.”

    • WR_the_realist

      We can always count on Michael Christopher Scott for a good, politically incorrect, story.

      • The worst bike club I met was “God’s Garbage” in Australia. One young woman committed suicide after being gang-raped by them there. It was prosecuted as a murder, and rightly so.

  • Chip Carver

    How many people do blacks kill every day? How many people do hispanics kill every day? What are the numbers of blacks and hispanics in the US in comparison to Whites? This incident, while newsworthy, is a blip on the radar when it comes to the carnage the US endures year round from the always cheerful sun-peoples.

  • Rob

    Good riddance to bad white trash rubbish. These bikers were no credit to the white race, but just liabilities.

    • Whitetrashgang

      Well these people are the same as your war heroes,police, prison guards, etc. You need these people,they just have to be a small percentage in your society.Unlike black and brown societies where they are the majority.

      • BleedALot

        I understand what you mean, but I don’t think they are quite the same. These guys are alpha sociopaths.

    • John Smith

      Whites have no problem saying this, unlike negroes, who defend their trash.

      • IstvanIN

        Worship their trash.

        • BleedALot

          The media worships black trash too.

          • bilderbuster

            The media promotes Black trash.

          • Alexandra1973

            And these liberal “feel-good” churches import black trash.

          • bilderbuster

            Yes and those criminal “feel good” churches are paid very well for dirty deeds too. What type of sick people would call themselves “Christians” while importing violent Black Muslims like Somalis into White Christian nations?
            Before the Jesuits, the church went to Muslim lands to fight them and wasn’t interested in converting savages in Africa.

    • Shank Henry

      The Bandidos were started by a Texas USMC ‘Nam vet. Calling these guys “white trash” is not correct. Most are in for the “band of brothers” ethic. So, some drug dealing? Yawn—just like our govt and big pharma? They will stand up and fight for themselves rather than cower down. If we weren’t so busy cowering, maybe we’d have had one of them that “every-20-years” revolutions Jefferson mentioned …..

      • Rob

        So it makes it right? Nope. think before you comment.

  • Caucasoid88

    The Huff Post’s headline? “White-On-White Crime Strikes Again in Waco.”

    There’s something truly pathetic about the transparency of their agenda. I’m embarrassed mostly. It’s like saying in 2014 100 percent of the murders in Iceland were white-on-white.

    (According to statistics, Iceland averages about five homicides a year since 1999.)

    • Cheri Rodriguez

      I did happen to catch a picture of some of those arrested. At least one of the bikers is black and a bunch are definitely Hispanic.

      • Anglo

        Yes, I’ve noticed that too. I don’t think I’d call them a White gang and particularly not with a name like Bandidos(?)

        • Cheri Rodriguez

          Some White clubs have non-Anglo names. With The Diablos MC, I think they were going for something cool sounding (you have to admit it’s better than The Devils). When they were founded back in the early 1960s, their constitution said that to be a member you had to be at least 21 and White. They still pretty much stick to that rule today.

          • Anglo

            OK. I’m getting educated on biker gangs reading all these comments.

      • Who Me?

        They are criminals, so all the Hispanics are considered White–unless they are injured/dead at the hands of other criminals.

    • how about this

      “(According to statistics, Iceland averages about five homicides a year since 1999.)”

      I am going to bet at least four of those are just Björk getting pissed off at reporters again.

      • John Smith

        One of them ought to be Björk….

  • Rob

    This is the state of White America. In a few years they too will be trashy like non whites are. I was surprised when I went to some pure white neighborhoods, the teens there had nose rings, tattoes and God knows what else. Those days of class ended with the late 1960s.
    I know some negroes that have more class than these classless whites.

    • Fair Dinkum

      Meh. There’s a white underclass, too. It’s just smaller and generally less violent than the black underclass.

    • JGTThrasher

      Yeah, and many of us tattooed underclass have to actually resist, sometimes physically, while so many arm chair philosophers talk trash on the internet. I think the movement would do a little better if we weren’t so damned civilized all of the time. 😉

      • Rob

        You have to resist it is because you have out yourselves in this situation or do not bother to come out of it. It is up to you to make something of your life and not live the life of a white trash.

        • Shank Henry

          Your lingo indicates you’re not an American. Just commenting. The superior races, like blacks and browns, never turn on each other like we do. Maybe we can learn to stick together by aping our superior overlords.

          • Rob

            you are being silly because the negroes and mestizos are not superior. Biker gangs dress badly and act like trash.

        • JGTThrasher

          Hmm, so raising my children, acting responsibly, keeping my neighborhood free from drug dealers, growing my organic gardens so we do not eat garbage, and home schooling my kids so they do not get indoctrinated makes makes me white trash because I have tats and live in a lower, working class neighborhood. Got it. Your arrogance is astounding. I am sure that you also believe I do not read real books because the letters confuse me.

          • carriewhite64

            I do agree that sometimes white people choosing to live an environmentally friendly and non-consumer life makes them visually indistinguishable from what some people call white trash. If you are in to a sustainable lifestyle, your home will not look like a manicured McMansion in a gated community. I’m not sure I’m communicating this idea well, but I have observed and lived it, and I’m agreeing with you. White people sometimes judge other white people harshly based on the things they CHOOSE not to buy or engage with.

          • I make all sorts of things out of scrap wood and scrap metal. I guess I must be white trash. The term doesn’t bother me. As you suggest, there is an alternative to the “I gots ta be haben dat” lifestyle.

            Nothing I make ever comes apart. It is usually fairly heavy. I drill slightly undersized holes in the wooden joints and then use nails. The nails I salvaged from my fireplace when I was burning pallets for heat during the winter of 2003-2004. These are slightly threaded, and I lubricate them with wood glue.

          • carriewhite64

            One of my biggest regrets in life is that I did not learn some basic carpentry skills. I have a lot of basic skills like sewing, gardening, repairs, etc., but that is one area I don’t understand. It looks so complicated. Yes, your example is good. If you use scrap to build things, then you have scrap on your property. Simple as that. If you like to reuse and build rather than buy buy buy, then you are not going to have an upper-class-homeowners-association looking home. You’re going to have a lot of stuff that you “might need” some day.

          • Got all that stuff in the basement. I have actually ran out of nails and screws several times. I gave away a good PC and that runs Win-98, just so one of my friends can play “Red Baron 3D” on it, with a monitor. I gave him a good extension cord as well. When one of the neighbors throws away a vacuum cleaner, I cut the power cord and take that home. A new female end is $1.59 at Wal Mart, so I get a decent extension cord for that much money. My mother has one of those as well.

            If I ever bring another computer monitor home, my wife says she’ll kill me in half, so I give those away to poor people.

          • carriewhite64

            Well done. I like to scrounge too. I have some great garden and house pieces taken from the side of the road.

          • JGTThrasher

            I understand part of what Rob is saying, to the degree that many lower class whites are lower IQ and look/act a specific way. My disagreement has much to do with the things you just pointed out, the fact that many of us with tats are not illiterate, drug using wastes, and that many of these lower class neighborhoods were and would be fine if it weren’t for policies inflicted on us by the political class, who are mostly non-tat having and more highly educated. It is the attack on appearance and class that irks me, as if these things make one moral or good for our people. Also, I am a heathen. Before we gave up our culture and started defending the universalist metropolis we lived simply, covered ourselves in tats and defended our own. While I am not completely anti-modern, I am against the idea that those of us with a more “primitive” world view are anything but scum.

          • Rob

            Everything before the tats is what I support. The rest makes you trash.

          • JGTThrasher

            It seems you are focused on something very superficial, and your language let’s me know enough. When I was growing up only the bikers, military,punk rockers, skinheads and criminals would get tattoos. We were outsiders, in general. Now they are fairly normalized, and not for the first time in our history. I get that you and many others do not find it aesthetically pleasing and that it is not for you. My many military friends have them and they are upstanding, Christian young men. My heathen friends have them, and they may not be as docile as the society would like but they at least have honor and handle their business, never backing down from attacks from the “youths.” You find us trashy, and that is fine. Meanwhile we will work together, shoot our guns at local farms, trade food, train MMA and kickboxing and get ready. It is a shame that you would let something like appearance dictate that your brothers are “trash.” On the internet, these are simply words from a faceless human being. They also reveal that you know very little about the majority of white people who live with a racial consciousness, derived from living with multiculturalism, and who run small businesses, work trades and in restaurants. Words spoken/typed into the air are empty. The intent to be divisive will not work. I stand by my brothers no matter what echelon of society they live in, whether educated or simple, rich or poor. I understand that there are many roles to play in our society. I hope you see it that way some day.

          • Rob

            Maybe I will, but until then if you do do the good things I support then you are fine. However, clean up your act and look presentable.

          • JGTThrasher

            I am fine, with or without your permission, support, or demands. Get over yourself.

          • Rob

            DITTO

          • InAFreeCountry

            Tats are not for me, and I find them unattractive on a woman. The way I see it, that’s all on me.

          • Are you really calling him “trash” because he has tattoos and lives in a working class neighborhood?

          • Rob

            Not fully, but because of their culture and also the ridiculous body art.

          • And yet I wonder if you’ve had any firsthand experience with white working class culture. You sound insular and snobbish, as though “those people” are beneath you because they choose to ink their skin or work with their hands in the hot sun. Who do you think grows your food, builds your roads, digs your ditches, lays your sewers, collects your garbage, fights your fires, drives your ambulances, and otherwise keeps civilization humming along? It isn’t the nebbish Columbia graduate in spectacles and an ascot. The men you criticize are the backbone of white society; viewing them with such unwarranted disdain only betrays your own class insecurities.

          • Rob

            anthro, I do not view working class people with disdain. You are just jumping off topic and making it look like I hate working class whites. All I said is that the biker culture is not good culture and we do not need gangs. So smarten up.

          • “Biker” culture is as varied as any other subculture. Some are criminals, most are not. Once again you sound out of touch and silly.

          • Rob

            well , would be better if they clean up their so called sub culture.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    The Twin Peaks chain revoked the restaurant’s franchise agreement after the Waco location failed to comply with police requests not to serve bikers at the event, according to the statement.

    Also on Sunday, Jay Patel, the operator of the Waco restaurant, released the following statement: We will continue to cooperate with the police as they investigate this terrible crime.

    The police told Mr. Patel not to “serve bikers?” That is discrimination.

    Were the bikers expected to leave peacefully after being turned away?

    • bilderbuster

      Does anyone wonder who would be getting the blame for the violence if the police had told the restaurant not to serve Black bikers or Crips and Bloods?

    • Who Me?

      The police told Mr. Patel not to “serve bikers?”
      *************
      Patel…East Indian? So, one little Indian dude, 5 ft. 2 and 120 lbs, standing up to, what was it at last count, 170 big American bikers? Yep, I can see that working out really well.

      • InAFreeCountry

        That was my thought, also. “Please not to be making any trouble! Thank you very much!”

  • JGTThrasher

    Yeah, mostly white. How can you tell? No innocent bystanders were hit in spite of all the shooting. Someone named “Gimmie Jimmy”, instead of “Gibsmedat Hood Rat”. Another named “The Man.” I think that last one is the most hated in BRA.

  • mikey7777

    This is beyond funny.Now blacks and the lib lovers of blacks can justify all the black crime and the burning of towns and say “look everyone does it” LMFAO!It is so beyond obvious how this media and the sick libs in this country try to make blacks and out of control black crime like everyone acts like them.This is hilarious reading all these idiots out there and on TV “look white biker gangs LOL…they don’t burn down whole towns every day and shoot up and destroy whole cities.BLACK ON BLACK crime is the highest and will always be the highest.And black on white crime.The news couldn’t wait for something like this to put out there because whitey and every other race but blacks is tired of all the BLACK SOCIOPATHIC CRIME>Eat it up public..let the news take your mind off all the black dysfunction.By the way did the mayor give them space to destroy if they wanted to.lmfao!

    • Yancy Derringer

      Bullseyes, all your points.

  • Luca D.

    Where’s the MSM love? These poor bikers were raised in poverty, single-mother homes, they had no role models, no education, no midnight basketball and their elementary schools did not serve free breakfast. They come from under-served communities and are victims of income inequality.

    • how about this

      These budding astrophysicists were victims of bikrophobia! It all goes back to a lack of motorcycle-friendly programming in children’s television.

    • Who Me?

      The REALLY pathetic part of the whole thing is, they probably were.
      (Not that it should be an excuse for them or anyone else.)

  • Groovy

    Wrong, not all participants were white, check Daily Mail. Almost 50/50 white and Mexican with one Black.

    • Anglo

      I don’t know any thing about biker gangs, but if that statistic is right — “Almost 50/50 white and Mexican with one Black” — they’re not exclusively a White biker gang, and why would a White biker gang call themselves the “Bandido’s”?

      • The only US bike club I knew well was the Sons of Silence. For them, you had to be white, and you had to have a Harley-Davidson. No exceptions.

        • kikz2

          did they let a rice burner ride w/em? ya know, to go for parts :)? my vague understanding is that back in the day, you’d just about have to be a master mechanic to ride one ….

          • They liked my old wartime BMW combination bike. I explained that Sayaka in the sidecar showed good Axis solidarity and comradeship.

      • Shank Henry

        Because many Texans actually use Mexican words at times. And Donald Chambers, the Bandidos founder, was a Texan.

    • Exuberant Auditor

      Yeah, they seem to be embracing diversity.

      It used to be that nothing said “No Ngrs Allowed” better than a bunch of white bikers. And when I say “used to” I mean only ten years ago.

  • how about this

    “Both the Bandidos and the Cossacks originated in Texas”

    Well I propose banning the letter A, since it was clearly involved in this tragedy. How many more must die before you A nuts come to your senses? It’s a letter of war!

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    Blacks have had 3 riots in the past 2 years, and the police just sat back and picked their nose. Whites get into a fight and police snipers start randomly shooting.

    If those bikers actually were the shooters, they wouldn’t just be standing around with their hands free with the cops back to them.

    Think about it.

    .

    • John Smith

      Most probably threw their pieces down. Their biker mamas carry their hardware for most, since the chicks seldom have felony records.

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

        Why aren’t they in handcuffs?

        • John Smith

          Probably not enough available, just like they don’t have enough cells for them all.

          • kikz2

            zipties?

          • John Smith

            You’d think they would have enough between 30+ officers.

  • I expect better from White people, but I am glad the police put a halt to the violence.
    Of course, it is much more palatable to mow down White thugs than black thugs.

    Now, If only the police would show up in force to mitigate black atrocity.

  • IceQueen

    Does anyone else wonder why it is that when blacks go on a rampage, only a handful are arrested, if any, and in a rare case like this, of whites behaving badly, 170 are arrested?

    • mikey7777

      Notice this

      notice how the bikers all sit down and also some individuals talk to the cops.They don’t start assaulting the cops or screaming and yelling BURN THIS BITTTCH DOWN lmfao!Innocent bystanders don’t get shot or kids getting shot in a drive by like blacks do for fun .lol,I don ‘t see any burning buildings or cars.I don’t see bikers assaulting cops lmfao!

      • IceQueen

        True. White people don’t make excuses for bad behaviour among our own. I find this whole thing embarrassing. I’ve already heard one liberal go on about it comparing it to bad behaviour among blacks, and well there are a few differences. Blacks have a “don’t snitch” rule. You could end up dead if you talk to the cops. Whites are more likely to be honest witnesses, which may account for the high arrest rate in this case.

        • mikey7777

          go take a listen when you get a chance…

        • Spikeygrrl

          SERIOUSLY??? People all over this thread are making excuses for Whites behaving badly!

          I share your embarrassment.

          • As the resident federal felon, I’m not making any excuses.

          • Spikeygrrl

            I know you’re not, and I know why.

            My crimes were minor (all alcohol-driven) and my incarceration short…but ANY time in prison has a way of banging you upside the head with a 2×4 until you face life’s nasty little realities.

            I admire your posts even when I don’t agree with them. Keep up the good work!

  • mikey7777

    If people want reality about crime just listen to police scanners,especially in the big cities.I go to broadcastify and click on the chicago police.All you hear is monkeyshines just constantly causing mayhem with shootings ,stabbings,robberies,all day and night.But especially ,you notice,when the sun goes down all hell starts breaking loose ,lol.Just give a listen when you have time while sipping on your favorite beverage,wink,wink.You will get a good dose of reality about blacks.Of course you have a few smatterings of a random white guy or some hispanics but blacks are the overall heroes of the “skreets”.Well the hispanics and blacks are always going at it.It is just so amusing how tv and all these online sites never ever post any of this.

    • El Conquistador

      I listen to the Chicago Police Scanner everyday. The app I use is 5-0 Radio. (iTunes Store) It’s unbelievable how much black crime goes unreported, day/night in Chicago. The top producers are as follows: black males born in the 90’s, Hispanic males, black females, white males, then a diverse cast of homeless and the drug addicted. In that order. Dispatchers use the word “black male(s)” roughly 9 times an hour to describe a perp. I say born in the 90s because the age of the perp is usually given. I’ve also listened to the Baltimore police scanner where they do not use words like “black male” or “white male” to describe a perp. Instead black males are referred to as “#1 male” and white male = “#2 male”. My guess, this kind of code will eventually find its way to the Chicago Police dept as well. As more and more users begin downloading these free scanners, it will be considered derogatory to mention the race of the perp even by police and dispatchers. It will be much more politically correct to refer to perps in code rather than race.

  • This seems like a good way to weed out the bad apples among our race. Unlike some other races, whites don’t glorify their criminals (with the exception of some historic characters of course).

  • On the other hand, if the official authorities or private business owners try to put the kibosh on this, there will be no white people suing to make them stop on behalf of the bikers. Remember, the NAACP has sued Myrtle Beach business owners to force them to stay open during Bell Curve Bike Week.

  • mikey7777

    guys just go to broadcastify and click on “listen” then “top feeds” then click “chicago police department”…

    • IceQueen

      If anyone is curious, Broadcastify is a live police feed. These are live 911 calls being made, and race is mentioned because they are actively searching for the perp. You can select any city or county in the nation.

      • mikey7777

        I just laugh at all the monkey business lol.These people can not sit still for 1 minute.By the way ,this would be obvious but weekends oh man .

    • Usually Much Calmer

      Twenty-seven people were shot at this Waco incident, 9 of them fatally. One hundred and seventy people were arrested.

      Forty-nine people were shot over this same weekend in Chicago, 2 of them fatally. I do not think anyone was arrested in connection with this weekend’s shootings yet.

      • mikey7777

        hell chimpcago,this happens every weekend.And they have the toughest gun laws in the country ,lol.

  • dd121

    I don’t like anarchists of any color.

    • John Smith

      I like them better than the supporters of the pro-diversity corporate police state.

  • Reverend Bacon

    There are many Hispanics in this too, FYI. The SF Chronicle, usually the paragon of censorship for the cause, posted every one of the 100+ mugshots today.

    • IceQueen

      Didn’t know that. Thanks for the update. I didn’t get the news till tonight.

  • Hilis Hatki

    So the Bandidos are claiming that the Cossacks are undocumented bikers and the Cossacks are claiming there’s Bandidos privilege.

    • I’d give you a thousand thumbs up for that, as I rarely smile here, except when Bon has new pictures.

      • Hilis Hatki

        Thank you, I try to bring cheer to all. If Iam not happy Iam sad. I dont tend to stay in neutral too long. My mind is always doing correlations.

  • You can tell the gangs were White. A couple of hundred of them; lots of fighting and shooting; using guns knives and everything else; and no bystanders were hurt! If two or three blacks had been fighting, there would have been at least six bystanders, mostly children, caught in the cross fire as well. I live near Philly; I know.

    • Exuberant Auditor

      There have been quite a few Irish gangs in Philly, but it’s not what it used to be. The main one remaining there today is the K&A Gang I believe, but even that seems to be a shadow of its former self now.

  • Anon

    You idiots are pretty quick to assume bad things about white people when you should know better. SHOULD know that a specific, non-white race controls our media (specifically, less than five people of that race openly control all media and OPENLY espouse their anti-white agenda including the genocide).

    Your immediate reaction to propaganda like this should be….it’s a lie (as it always is) and to look for how it is a lie.

    In this particular case, you had a large gathering of non-criminal bikers of the type who carry guns (as most of the country does if not most of the people) and are of a mind to kill criminals if they are threatened. A group of criminals crashed the event and assaulted someone in the bathroom…..and were promptly killed. Unfortunately it was a group of criminals and what started out as an assault with victims killing the perp turned into a running gun battle between criminals and non-criminal bikers.

    You might reflect on the fact that these are men and you are not. Men being people who stand up to crime. Non-men being those who are quick to criticize that (as long as it is safe).

    • IceQueen

      Anon, you make a good point. I might just hang back on this one till more information comes in.

    • Jo

      According to biker witnesses, there was shoving in the bathroom, not a murder. This was taken outside to the parking lot, then involved knives. A few were stabbed. It’s claimed, police were responsible for all 9 who died, not the bikers.

    • Don’t call me an idiot.

    • Spikeygrrl

      Don’t call me an idiot either, and find somewhere else to spread your filthy, envy-based anti-Semitism.

    • Alexandra1973

      It’s not a race–it’s a religion.

      I’m not looking at Tel Aviv, I’m looking at Rome.

    • sddasasd

      No, I think you’re the only idiot here (and pretty crazy to boot)- no rational, honest person believes there’s a white gang problem, white gangs in the US are few and far between, and bikers like this are one of them. This is a very rare instance of mass gang violence on the part of whites, whereas things like this are immensely more common among blacks and hispanics. The fact something rare enough happened shouldn’t come as a surprise, but you have to invoke this some kind of propaganda movement. The immediate reaction should be “huh, that’s something you don’t see often”, not “NO WAY could white people EVER do this!!! This must be ANOTHER JEWISH PROPAGANDA ATTEMPT!!!”

      There are some white biker gangs that have very well documented, extensive criminal histories, this should come as no real surprise, except for nutcases like you apparently.

  • Jo

    According to a few witnesses, a shove in the bathroom led to about 30 bikers going out to the parking lot where 22 police and 10 Swat officers were waiting for them. The shove became a knife fight and several men were stabbed. One of the bikers pulled out a gun and the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons. “All of the dead were killed by police.”

    Isn’t that called ‘Overkill?’ One biker pulled a gun and the police used ‘automatic weapons,’ repeat, automatic weapons, against others in the parking lot! 9 killed, 27 injured, of those 27, 17 were hospitalized, 2 in critical condition! If these witnesses are telling the truth, shooting the biker holding the gun may have been justified, but using automatic weapons to kill 8 others and injure 27 is not!! Arresting 170! Only about 30 were involved! Notice these police didn’t ‘hold back’ as they do with blacks.

    I see this differently than most. OK, these mostly White bikers have gone astray, but this treatment by the police is uncalled for. Notice, these ‘hardcore’ dangerous criminals sitting and standing quietly, some with heads down, cooperating in compliance with the police, none causing problems.

    Police ARE out of control! Yes, Whites don’t retaliate; therefore, for the police, using military tactics wouldn’t cause problems. Whites shouldn’t remain silent!

    • IceQueen

      You makes some good points Jo. As I said to Anon, I think I’ll hang back, and wait till more info gets through. I do think it’s odd that 170 were arrested. I’m not an anti cop person, but the first story out of the shoot by the MSM is not all there is.

      • Jo

        The witnesses I speak of are bikers who were there, not from police, media, or non-bikers on the sidelines. We should demand the truth, but will only get law enforcement’s and media’s sides of the story.

        • IceQueen

          The pics of the bikers sitting calmly on the curb are very telling. That gives me pause to be a little less judgemental about the whole thing. So my comments may seem contradictory. While I don’t condone bad behaviour among our own, how do I know that some of them didn’t act in self defense? I’m sure there will be plenty more about this in the coming weeks.

    • kikz2

      i noticed that as well…. uncuffed, thumbing their phones.

    • Have you ever seen a large group of Blacks quietly getting arrested? Each Black requires 6 officers to subdue him and to handcuff him. If it were Blacks, they already would have smashed and burned all police cars, and police would stand by and watch, in order not to offend them nor be racist. Obama would praise them for voicing their justified anger.

      “Police killing unarmed white man” seems not to be a good headline. If this was Blacks, Obama, Holder, Sharpton would claim police killed unarmed teens, or unarmed old men. No proof is needed that they were unarmed, or killed by police.

      • Who Me?

        The police told them to “You sit right there and stay there or you will be shot.” Being White they believed the police, so they sat and stayed as they were ordered to do. Blacks would not, even if held at gunpoint. If any further proof were needed here it is–Whites and blacks are different species.

        • Race Heretic

          It was only in the last year of my life (I am yet a young man) that I realized that one of the reasons blacks have so much trouble with the police is that many don’t use common sense, and act stupidly. My father had the infamous “talk” with me. He instructed me how to behave when interacting with police. I follow that advice, and have only had good interactions with them.

          I suspect the cultural differences, low IQ, and poor time preference make blacks’ interactions with police much harder.

  • bilderbuster

    When mobs of Blacks kill a White (or even other Blacks) the whole mob or the gang members aren’t charged.

    • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

      Half the time NONE of them are charged. Or if they are, they get a slap on the wrist and a few years in jail, then back on the streets to do it again. Yay for white privilege!

  • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

    Too bad white bikers can’t do this in response to the slow genocide that is facing our race. If you’re going to go to prison, then make it count!

  • FozzieT

    Wherever there is race difference, there is conflict.

  • Exuberant Auditor

    Yeah, a bunch of bikers acting out in Texas, this time more than usual. What else is new.

    Some call it the white Somalia for a reason.

    • Shank Henry

      … and after killing off WHITE organized crime, what do you get? CHAOS, and gangs of other races; you know, hive mind races. For god’s sake man, you don’t get it, or are an agent provocateur ….

      • Exuberant Auditor

        Why would I want only white gangs to be wiped out? I’m for killing off all gangs and organized crime, regardless of race. Of course, the blacks and Hispanic will be disproportionally affected by such extensive policing and crackdown on crime, and that’s good.

        And crushing white organized crime won’t lead to chaos. Leaving them unpertubed will, as demonstrated by this recent shootout. Law enforcement is too lenient with these bundles of human trash.

      • Spikeygrrl

        White organized violent crime reflects poorly on peaceful, law-abiding Whites. We forfeit our moral right to denounce violent Negro crime when we do the same darn thing ourownselves.

        Didn’t your momma ever teach you “Don’t sink to their level”?

  • kikz2

    170 charged.. that smells….

    • IceQueen

      Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

      Hamlet (1.4)

      • LHathaway

        “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark”.

        I suspect the ‘rotten’ in that line became a euphemism for Nazi’s for a time, and remained so even after the war. It’s fitting again today. It’s an apt way to describe both the liberal ideology there and the immigrants.

    • Perhaps these imprisoned bikers were organizing for more than just a casual meal. I would not put it past our controlled press nor our police state (remember the last time there was mass violence in Waco?) to lie about everything that happened that day. Of course, the truth will out eventually–especially with 170 people arrested.

      • kikz2

        the latest i’ve heard/read on most of the charges, are “organized crime” which in TX, can be as innocuous as possession of small amt of pot (controlled substance), and belonging to a ‘gang’, which is odd that 170 of them have had bail set at 1m per.

        the story has changed since it broke.. which may be due to inaccurate reporting by media, or the PD… as initially the media reported the shooting didn’t start until outside, PD is saying it occurred inside as well. i’d like to hear other witnesses on that point, and forensics determine who did the shooting, and whose rounds killed whom.

        and another tidbit, the Waco Twin Peaks franchisee (Patel) did actively encourage/solicit the Biker Meetings on social media, which i was not aware of earlier.

  • jayvbellis

    Yeah, we Whites actually have some White gangs that can do murder and mayhem… Everybody seems to be over the age of 50 years old and they only seem to be a threat to other White biker gang members over the age of 50, but at least we’re still in the game.

    Come to think of it, I’m a White biker over the age of 50 yrs old. Recently I was in Biker Black leather taking a train back from the Chicago burbs, two Black boys ~ the age of 10 yrs old were casing the train looking for some (victims) and the older one looked at me and shook his head at the other one saying “no, not this White guy”.

    I think this had something to do with that Biker show on cable “Sons of Anarchy”.

    Anyway, the White biker scene isn’t bad, remember the 1% is only 1%, most of the rest are solid White folks, few cowards or sissies, Blacks and other non Whites instinctively know this.

  • LHathaway

    “The authorities said their decision to place officers outside the restaurant before the gunfire erupted most likely saved lives”.

    Any similarity to the same authorities who deny hate crimes are taking place and who brush under the rug a mountain of black on white violence and intimidation is purely coincidental.

    To put it another way, in a nation where 400 white males and 80 black males are killed by police each year, a black youth being killed, by police, has galvanized even the president. The authorities handling of this situation is just good police work.

  • Weisheit77

    After hearing the police had gunned them down I ran to my local CVS, torch in hand, but alas, all I got was funny looks.

    Just a thought…
    I think if I was in a fringe group that consisted of white people, Waco, Texas would be the last place I would have any type of get together. Hold on, brb. David Koresh is on the other line.

  • Many of the bikers were Latino and a few are black. Of the mug shots published so far about 76-80% are white. It will take months to find out what really happened and who the shooters were. Also, some of the people were killed by cops. Police initially claimed they had 12 officers monitoring the meeting. Some sources now claim there were 22 officers, including an entire swat team. There are different versions of what precipitated the police opening fire.

  • If I have this straight, the cops “stationed themselves” outside a restaurant, fired into a crowd, and then charged everyone in the vicinity with murder.

    Remind me to never go to Waco.

  • ElComadreja

    Aberrant behavior from a small minority of whites. Even among bikers this happens rarely. It’s everyday behavior for blacks and Hispanics.

  • slobotnavich

    This whole story somewhat baffles me. I’m a biker myself (I mean real 150-200hp sport bikes, not the overweight and underpowered slugs ridden by the Harley homos) and haven’t seen a biker gang in a couple of decades at least. I live in the Northeast and just never see them around any more. There used to be an outlaw gang called The Breed in the Philly area maybe 30-40 years ago whom I’d see once in a while, but since then nothing.