Pamela Geller, the Incendiary Organizer of Texas ‘Prophet Muhammad Cartoon Contest’

Lindsey Bever, Washington Post, May 4, 2015

For those unfamiliar with Pamela Geller, she was in the news a few weeks ago for sponsoring an ad campaign across major U.S. cities with anti-Muslim posters saying, among other things, “Killing Jews is Worship that draws us close to Allah.”

On Sunday, she was in the news again for sponsoring a “Jihad Watch Muhammad Art Exhibit and Cartoon Contest” in Garland, Tex., some 20 miles from Dallas, after which two suspects opened fire on a security guard before being shot and killed by police. Authorities did not immediately link the exhibit and the shootings, but Geller did, with vehemence.

But Geller drew national attention long before now. In 2009, she became a leader of the movement against a mosque in Manhattan. She told the New York Times she believed the only “moderate Muslim is a secular Muslim” and that when Muslims “pray five times a day . . . they’re cursing Christians and Jews five times a day.”

The wealthy housewife-turned-blogger has become one of America’s loudest voices against what she sees as the creeping “Islamization” of America. She is president of the American Freedom Defense Initiative as well as Stop Islamization of America.

Islamization, she has said, is not something that will happen overnight. “It’s a drip, drip, drip, drip,” she told the New York Times in 2010 as she waged war against the mosque at Ground Zero. “The mosque-ing of the workplace where you’re imposing prayer times on union contracts, non-Muslim workers have to lengthen their day. … These demands are a way of imposing Islam on a secular society.”

Such wild rhetoric prompted the Southern Poverty Law Center to add her group to its list of “hate groups,” calling her the “anti-Muslim movement’s most visible and flamboyant figurehead.”

“She’s relentlessly shrill and coarse in her broad-brush denunciations of Islam and makes preposterous claims,” it said.

Heidi Beirich, head of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s watchdog division, told CNN on Monday that although Geller’s activities may fall within the bounds of the First Amendment, they are considered “cruel and unfair” because “she doesn’t make distinctions” between mainstream Islam and militant factions.

“They say I’m a racist, Islamophobic, anti-Muslim bigot,” Geller told the Village Voice in 2012. “I’m anti-jihad. . . . I don’t see how anyone could say I’m anti-Muslim. I love Muslims.”

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But as the mosque controversy receded in memory, so did Pamela Geller. Then in January came the assault by Muslim gunmen on Charlie Hebdo, the French satirical newspaper, which claimed a dozen lives. Geller was back in the public eye.

In response, she decided to organize Sunday’s “Muhammad Art Exhibit & Contest,” which would award a $10,000 prize to the “winning cartoon” depicting the prophet Muhammad.

“We decided to have a cartoon contest to show we would not kowtow to violent intimidation and allow the freedom of speech to be overwhelmed by thugs and bullies,” she told The Washington Post in an e-mail.

Many in Garland objected to the event. Some, including Muslims, said it was blasphemous. Others cited “public safety” concerns. The Council on American-Islamic Relations, however, decided to play it down. “We are not paying any attention to this at all,” Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR spokesman, told the Dallas Morning News. “The thing [Geller] hates most is being ignored.”

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  • Tony Murphy

    Pamela Geller’s organisation does great work but there is an irony here. She claims to fight for free speech. But the fight is uni-directional. When I pointed out to her on her blog that the tsunami of Muslims into White lands was a direct result of Jewish open border and multiculturalism policies she not alone refused to print the comment but banned me from the site!

    • John Smith

      The truth hurts when Tribe members get it tossed into their faces.

      • NoMosqueHere

        I fail to see how jews control everything, including america’s and europes’ immigration laws. Frankly, it smacks of insane conspiracy theory and idiocy.

        Today, virtually no jews live in europe. And those who survived WWII are totally assimilated and intermarried. Blaming jews for Sweden’s muslim problem is bizarre in the extreme.

        Obama, the Bushes, Clinton, and even Reagan are/were not jewish. Are jews so powerful they just hypnotize everyone?? Bollocks.

        • Johann Wald

          Nobody said here that “Jews control everything” so why did you bring it up? What they said was Jews are behind the open borders movements in every western country. Plenty of Jews live in Europe. Usually at a rate of about 1% of the population. Pretty much just as it was before WWII. They just aren’t in the % that they live in the US.

          • Lexonaut

            “Nobody said here that “Jews control everything” so why did you bring it up?”

            Because many people on this site imply it frequently. Must every post on AmRen begin with a summary of all the other posts that preceded it in time?

          • TCA

            Example?

          • Lexonaut

            No, sorry, I don’t feel like playing. My remarks are based on three years of observing this site, most of them as mainly a lurker.

          • HJ11

            Jews are out for Jews.

            It is time that Whites are out for Whites.

          • Lexonaut

            Newsflash … Most Jews are white, but let’s put that aside.

            “It is time that Whites are out for Whites.”

            Go for it. The Jew under your bed is not stopping you.

          • Realist

            “Newsflash … Most Jews are white, but let’s put that aside.”

            Newsflash….Jews are a separate breeding group.

          • Lexonaut

            “Newsflash….Jews are a separate breeding group.”

            You mean like Mormons?

          • Realist

            Jews are genetically distinguishable. If that is true about Mormons, then yes.

          • Lexonaut

            “Jews are genetically distinguishable.”

            I know they tend to be very smart, and they practice Judaism, but by what mechanism do you personally distinguish them genetically? That is, what population genetics studies would you direct the readership to so people can decide for themselves what a Jew is.

            You know what? Hitler said that if you have 1/4 Jewish blood (whatever that means) and did not come from a Jewish ghetto you could be certified … wait for it … Aryan. Can a stroke of the pen change your genetic makeup?

          • Realist

            “I know they tend to be very smart, and they practice Judaism….”

            A number are atheists. Ashkenazi Jews on average have an IQ round 112.

            That is, what population genetics studies would you direct the readership to so people can decide for themselves what a Jew is.”
            You can Google Jewish DNA. Ashkenazi DNA…or experiment.
            You should join us in the 21st century.

          • Anna Tree

            Is the Ashkenazi DNA similar to the Jewish Iranian DNA?
            Also, there is a Swedish DNA different than the French DNA, but still Swedes and French are whites… no?

          • Realist

            “Is the Ashkenazi DNA similar to the Jewish Iranian DNA?”

            They are distinguishable.

            Also, there is a Swedish DNA different than the French DNA, but still Swedes and French are whites… no?”

            There is a sub-Saharan African DNA and it is different than Finnish DNA. Do you have a point?
            You need to educate yourself.

          • Anna Tree

            Stop the fallacies please, I get enough of that fighting anti-whites everyday.

            I will rephrase:
            The fact that there is Swedish DNA and French DNA, doesn’t make them not both white DNA.
            A white Jew DNA can have some different characteristic, like a Swedish DNA can have too, but still both are whites.

            Does a white converting to Judaism make his loose his white DNA?
            Science is above ideologies, including religions.

          • Lexonaut

            “You should join us in the 21st century.”

            Trust me, I’m in. By the way, I don’t know what my IQ is, only that it had to be 135 or greater for me to be put in my high school’s TAG program. I’m an agnostic though most would call me an atheist. My degree is in chemistry but I was a computer software pioneer. Most of my relatives are either scientists, engineers, attorneys or doctors. Funny how these things go — even without DNA testing.

          • Anna Tree

            But so are English or Serbs. These are ethnicity.
            They are all still whites. I see white as a group of ethnicity.
            And then there is Caucasian. Pakistanis are also Caucasians.

          • Realist

            Jews consider themselves Jews….not whites.

          • Anna Tree

            Well some American, German, French also don’t consider themselves whites (if they ever think race exist – rolling eyes), it doesn’t make them not white.
            Also obviously not all Jews, as there are proud Amreners who are Jews.

            Anyway, I don’t care what they think, I don’t follow Judaism so I don’t have to believe their beliefs: I mean that I follow DNA, if their DNA is white, they are white.
            I would say that also for a muslim.
            That said if a Jew is anti-white, or a Christian, an atheist, an intellectual etc, then indeed they are out, they are traitors.

          • slobotnavich

            Well, a couple of generations ago Jews used to marry almost exclusively among themselves – now, not so much, to the disappointment and often exasperation of many older Jews. They’ve managed to maintain their religion and tribal identity through their historically steadfast reluctance to marry outside the Tribe. Personally, I’d rather prefer that they maintained their identity and superior brainpower – our nation needs it, especially given the influx of lower IQ minorities flooding in, especially with the stalled white birthrate.

          • Realist

            Ashkenazi Jews still tend to marry other Ashkenazi Jews especially the more successful.

            “Personally, I’d rather prefer that they maintained their identity and superior brainpower – our nation needs it, especially given the influx of lower IQ minorities flooding in, especially with the stalled white birthrate.”
            For the Jews sake they should continue. But when one group has a superior IQ. they tend to take advantage. Jews are in favor of diversity in white countries but not Israel.

          • Anna Tree

            Israel seems completely multi-cultural too. They even started to get problems with their black Jews.

            White Israeli Jews intermarry with non-white Israeli Jews: the IQs and achievements will decline there too.

          • Realist

            “Israel seems completely multi-cultural too.”

            Not even close. Only Jews in Israel can vote.

            “They even started to get problems with their black Jews.”
            And they are sending them back where they came from.

          • Anna Tree

            That’s not true. There are even muslims in the Israeli Parliament, that is, not only non-Jewish can vote but they can be elected.

            No, they are not sending Ethiopian Jews out, they are not even sending black non-jewish out, even muslim, yes they are so blind, similarly to here, there are liberal leftists diversity lovers in Israel, that’s a plague everywhere.

            So I will repeat: Israel even started to get problems with its black Jews. Multiculturalism and multiracialism is striking there too.

          • You sure as heck IMPLIED that. Don’t back off now. You actually sound like a liberal yourself. “I never said that about all white people…” Yeah, all our problems are cause by those darn Jews. Yeah, right. (Rolling my eyes.)

          • Anna Tree

            I think there is a difference between “Jews are behind the open borders” and “Many Jews are behind the open borders.”
            From my point of view too, indeed many Jews are, but also many atheists and many Christians.
            If the problem was only Jews, our situation wouldn’t be dire. The problem is that it’s Jews and Christians and atheists and intellectuals and elites etc etc

            That’s an epidemic and liberal leftism I think is the common denominator.

        • evilsandmich

          As I read one commentator state, they have a variety of far left issues for which they have their whole shaft behind the arrowhead. If they weren’t interested in forcing debt driven economics, open borders, destruction of white neighborhoods, etc. then those issues would have trouble leaving the ground. In fairness to your argument, likewise if the general population turned solidly against those issues then that would be the end of them as well.

          • TCA

            We have the Jews we deserve. Like mosquitoes, they breed in the swamp of our sins.
            Corneliu Codreanu

        • Jaggers

          You should check out the book Culture of Critique if you want the facts on this matter. That being said, I give Geller some credit for her chutzpah.

        • John Smith

          They don’t have absolute control, just disproportionate control. Dominique Strauss-Kahn was probably going to be the French President until he went “tribal” in NYC with the negro/latin maid. Quite a few live in France and a good number in Britain and many are in power (Ed Miliband anyone?).

        • notyranny

          Look it up, even they admit it. They control Hollywood and most media, so explain to me why these powerful cultural juggernauts are used to promote anti-Christian and anti-White propaganda as well as an inarguable degeneracy of civilized behavior.

          • NoMosqueHere

            They don’t control Hollywood. They built it. Anyway, their purported control isn’t very effective. Israel is demeaned at every turn, and jews are usually portrayed as stereotypes.

          • Good point! The media are not very sympathetic to Israel, are they? I think the Israelis should slaughter the damned Arabs and take over that country. Do you think our media would tolerate that? Heck no! “Oh, the poor “Palestinians” (There is NO SUCH PEOPLE AS THAT!) that are being “oppressed” by the Israelis.” Yeah, Jewish control, my foot. Yes, most Jews are “liberal.” But our media is controlled by LIBERALS, not by JEWS. There’s a difference.

          • HJ11

            Dig deeper and you may understand.

          • Michael North

            I have remarked on another site that the Jews are responsible for all of today’s conspiracy theories.

        • jaye ellis

          It’s not that they control everything. It just a fact that the Jewish political and cultural elite is overwhelmingly bad, crazy, insane on immigration to the USA, to the West. This insanity does not of course apply to immigration to Israel.

          We wrote about this at Occidental Dissent:

          http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/12/20/yes-virginia-jews-suck-on-immigration/

          So I recommend just going with the program of being firm and fair with American Jewish people. Jews are good at a lot of things and can be good friends, good neighbors, good teachers etc. They just suck at immigration.

          If you and your family, neighbors really care about stop reversing bad immigration, they need to become aware of the Jewish issue.

          We can not have tens of millions of Southern White Christian Zionists walking around thinking that the American Jewish community shares their common sense views on immigration – i.e. keeping out Islamic terrorists, BLack Africans infected with Ebola, keeping out M13 Gang members.

          It’s just a fact that the Jewish political and cultural elite (media elite) pushes insane, murderous immigration policies on us.

        • Thank you. I know we have various opinions on this site, but let’s get off this “Jewish conspiracy” kick.

        • HJ11

          You fail to see…well, not everyone is as smart as Sherlock Holmes.

        • Michael North

          Bollocks? I take it you are British.

        • Realist

          If a politician wants Jewish billionaire money to get elected, he will do as the Jews tell him.

    • I’ve seen her ban people for less. She’s nothing more than an opportunistic, hypocritical yenta. She really cares nothing about America or any kind of free speech. Her entire schtick is centered and cemented on what’s best for Israel and Jews. If it ever seems like those aren’t the cornerstones of her arguments, then it’s a given that you just aren’t looking at things closely. She’s not nearly as bad as the Leftist Jews, but she isn’t too far behind when you strip away the veneer of free speech and America that she likes to hide behind. She’s the kind of Jew that makes it hard for me to like Jews, because she’s supposed to be one of the “good” ones.

      • Chip Carver

        She’s a form of controlled opposition. People who are set up to look like they’re on our side. Their main job is always to hide facts and mute criticism.

      • Epiminondas

        Wilders is also a Jew and the real eye-opener here was he and Geller staged an event that was likely to attract Muslim militants. So they surrounded the venue with big, burly Gentile policemen to guarantee their “freedom of speech.” As you noted above, they don’t care about our freedom of speech…only theirs. And now that town and those people who participated will be targeted by Muslim radicals who will be incited to do them harm. And the next time, the target won’t be surrounded by cops. This is typical of Jewish behavior. Do outrageous things and get the dumb Goyim to support them, then when things get hot, send the dumb Goyim to kill your enemy. This isn’t going to end well.

      • Lexonaut

        “I’ve seen her ban people for less.”

        I didn’t know she has a website. I’ll be sure to check it out.

    • You cut a little too deep for her. The implications of your comments were a little too much for her to bear. Her primary commitment is to the Tribe and not Americans nor whites.

      • Lexonaut

        “Her primary commitment is to the Tribe and not Americans nor whites.”

        And this is a problem because …

        • TCA

          Dammit, you ARE Englemann.
          I freakin’ knew it!

          • Lexonaut

            No, TCA. I’m not! I promise! Count my ribs!

        • If she were in Israel that would be fine, but she’s not. She’s an American Jew and claims to be one. One would think that her primary commitment would be to the people and land in which she was born. But no, her reaction to Tony Murphy’s questions, shows her allegiance to be for Israel and Israel alone. Granted, she would not agree with this, but her actions say otherwise.

          It also shows, at least in some sense, that she’s not intellectually honest when it comes to Israel’s own hypocrisy in promoting ‘diversity’ among nations in the West, but opposing it in large measure in their own land.

          Many Jews, even among socially and politically conservative Jews, are unwilling to admit this. Many of them are in denial of how influential they have been in promoting policies that have proven to be destructive to white nations and their historic people.

          • Lexonaut

            “But no, her reaction to Tony Murphy’s questions, shows her allegiance to
            be for Israel and Israel alone. Granted, she would not agree with this,
            but her actions say otherwise.”

            Her actions show that she wants Americans — the people of her home country — to wake up to the fact that the cartoonist killers are active not only in Paris, and not only in Copenhagen, but also right here in the Good Old USA, in a suburb of Dallas, Texas no less …

            … And you call her unAmerican?

            Of course she supports Israel. She doesn’t want to see her genes wiped out any more than you want yours to be wiped out. Why is that difficult to understand, and why is that bad?

    • Johann Wald

      Pam Geller is a jerk. No surprise that she refused to answer your question. I would call it hypocrisy rather than irony. Just imagine how she would react to a similar stunt being pulled specifically to denigrate Abraham or Moses? Additionally, several years ago she wrote an article published on the American Thinker website that advocated the release of arch traitor Jonathan Pollard. The reader’s comments following were surprisingly overwhelmingly against. As were mine.

      • Publius Pompilius Quietus

        I also dislike and distrust Geller. She seems to be consumed by tribal hate against Muslims, rather than coherent ethno-patriotism.

    • jaye ellis

      Yes, sadly that is the worst thing the Jewish political/cultural elite does to us in the USA, the West.

      It used to be that this same Jewish elite was shamelessly inciting Blacks to riot and defending the worst Black criminals, Black Panthers etc. The Jewish elite doesn’t do that nearly as much now, those that do – it is sort of nostalgia, loyalty to their grandparents, to the 1960s Civil Rights Movement etc.

    • NoMosqueHere

      Your attacks on Pamela are a disgrace.

    • You were wrong. It is not THE JEWS who do these things. Please. There are plenty of deluded non-Jewish White liberals to cause enough problems. Yes, in the past, some of these Cultural Marxist ideas may have had Jewish origins, but that is in the past. They have infected enough Whites that we would still have problems without Jews. Look at Sweden. They are the dumbest White people on the planet and willingly bring Arabs into their beautiful country. There aren’t too many Jews in Sweden. No, there is a pathology on guilt infecting the White Race. Let’s focus on real issues not made up ones.

      • RaySist27

        I agree that the liberals are a huge problem for us. White liberals are bad, bad people.

  • There’s a good point hidden in this article. Where are all the big mouth “Je Suis Charlie” libs now?

    • evilsandmich

      I’m wondering what happened to all those Maplethorpe lefties who haunted Cincinnati all those decades ago; they all could t wait to prove how anti-Christian they were.

  • dd121

    What clearer evidence is there that we shouldn’t bring millions of intolerant Muslims into our country?

    • Lexonaut

      That is her whole point. Western Europe is already a lost cause. We do not and should not have to follow their example.

  • Jaggers

    SPLC calls her “shrill”? I think she’s an enormously articulate woman, and did a fantastic job defending her views and her activism after this Garland, TX incident. She really knows how to debate with the left-wing media.

    • tetrapod

      It’s admirable and infuriating at the same time.

      On the one hand, she’s articulate and effective, and I love the way she sticks it to filthy camel drivers. On the other hand, why is it only Juden who can dictate who’s allowed to voice their natural fear and righteous hostility? And you know, you just know the SPLC and JDL types who “denounce” her are secretly giving each other high fives for her effectiveness in getting out the anti-Islamic message.

      In contrast, any whites staging a similar “draw the Mexican invader” cartoon contest would be committing deenicide.

      • Lexonaut

        “In contrast, any white person staging a similar “draw the Mexican invader” contest would be committing deenicide …” … …
        … … but would not be subjected to attack by armed Mexicans.

    • kikz2

      well then, let her come and wave red capes at bulls in your backyard.

  • Hilis Hatki

    “she doesn’t make distinctions”
    So she bends forks and knifes too?

  • MekongDelta69

    She’s NOT ‘incendiary’ or ‘controversial.’

    She is honest and brave, two (of many) traits mooz-lims lack.

    • David Ashton

      Didn’t she once threaten to nuke Europe?

      • Jason Lewis

        She’s a huge Zionist. In this instance she was useful but she is not a friend.

        • evilsandmich

          Yeah, right thing for the wrong reason is all we can hope for sometimes I suppose.

        • notyranny

          I used the term Zionist supremacist in an earlier post and they removed the comment, is AmRen becoming a Zionist promoter?

          • HJ11

            AmRen has removed all of my very mild posts about the phony free speech circus in Texas which was just to provoke Muslims and get non-Jewish yahoos willing to fight for Israel.

      • Spaniard in LA

        They sure did!

    • Cid Campeador

      Too many here are going after Jews again. The Jews are starting to awaken. Keep your sights trained on the REAL enemy.

      • tetrapod

        Who is the real enemy?

        • LHathaway

          Blacks. At least, there are 50 million more of Them in America.

      • Spikeygrrl

        Upvote × 1,000

      • Raydonn

        A fully contradictory statement………..

      • TCA

        Jews are the real enemy.

      • HJ11

        There can be more than one REAl enemy. We Whites are our own people and we have many REAL enemies. Much of the non-White world wants to wipe out all Whites.

    • Johann Wald

      An “honest, brave” American wouldn’t publish an article calling for the release of arch traitor Jonathan Pollard as she did on the American Thinker website some years ago.

    • kikz2

      So brave that when the shooting started, her security team rushed her out of there to a waiting vehicle to an undisclosed safe location while everyone else was in lock-down. i have no idea what even happened to the foreign diplomat Geert, he vaporized into the Texas night like a phantom.

      • MekongDelta69

        And you would have had her do what exactly?

        Fight off one psycho mooz-lim and one psycho black mooz-lim convert with ARs with her bare hands?

        You don’t want her (or anyone else) speaking out about lunatic mooz-lims?
        Would you prefer the $PLC & CAIR and all the rest of the mooz-lim ‘grievance groups’ be unopposed?

        If the NOI (or any other psycho black group) threatened to kill (e.g.) Jared at an AmRen Conference, and then a firefight broke out and Jared was the target, you mean you wouldn’t want him whisked away ASAP?

        I’ll be sure not to recommend you to some of my old pals at Blackwater…

        • kikz2

          NIMBY… let her act agent provocateur some where else… like where ever the hell she’s from.

          you really insult Jared with that remark.

          paid mercs are no friend of mine.

          • MekongDelta69

            She’s from NY. This IS her back yard too.

            Your second sentence is so illogical, it means nothing.

            And don’t worry – you couldn’t have hacked it anyway…

        • Lexonaut

          “And you would have had her do what exactly?”

          He would have her slit her own throat since any cattle cars she might be herded onto do not have suitable destinations in the USA.

          • HJ11

            She’s not about free speech. One has to be a complete naif to believe that. She’s a kooky Zionist.

          • Lexonaut

            She’s a kooky Zionist and a kooky anti-Radical-Islam-ist. Free speech was her tactic — her weapon — not her goal. I support both the goal and the tactic, which was perfectly legal and in complete conformance with what the Founders intended.

            Her goal was to show that there really are people in the USA who will kill you for drawing cartoons. It’s not just in Paris, or Copenhagen, it’s here in the USA, and in a suburb of Dallas, Texas, for crying out loud.

            So what if she’s a Zionist? What has that to do with any of this?

          • HJ11

            She’s anti-White and is just trying to get Whites to jump on board the Israel Firsters bandwagon.

          • Lexonaut

            “She’s anti-White …”

            What on earth do you mean by that?

  • Capn Dad

    Islam is religion and politics combined. There is no separation of church and state in Islam. Insulting mohamed is like insulting a politician. Do fools like oreilly and trump believe respecting islam will curry favor with the islamo fascists? Those good muslims oreilly likes to tout were dancing in the streets of NYC when the towers came down.

    • Blackfish

      No Muslims danced in the streets of Manhattan on 9/11. I was there.

      There was footage of such behavior in the Midle East (Gaza IIRC) on CNN.

      • Capn Dad

        Who said anything about Manhattan? They certainly were celebrating in Brooklyn and the Bronx. My business associate and partner took videos of it.

  • Caucasoid88

    Since the SPLC isn’t anti-Muslim due to its abhorrent hatred for everything Joo, homo, and woman, one can only surmise that they simply don’t like white people.

  • Roninf9

    Geller is doing her part to keep the “Muslim Boogieman” meme alive in the public consciousness otherwise the American people may not be so eager to give up their liberties at home or expend their blood and treasure in the Mideast Forever Wars.

  • Reverend Bacon

    The SPLC blog is about as tolerant as the average militant Moslem in terms of free speech. Rather than condemn the attack (which they sort of got around to, eventually), they attacked Geller. The cop who was shot isn’t even out of the hospital, and they’re defending the Moslems who did it.

    They called out Geller for taunting them (as did Bill O’Reilly on Fox, FWIW). Reverend Bacon pointed out that this “blame the victim” approach wouldn’t be the tack they took if it was a Gay Pride rally that taunted gay-bashers. Of course, I don’t think there are hundreds of millions of gay bashers standing by ready to kill gays who deliberately taunt and attempt to provoke them. But if even one of them existed, Jabba the Nut and her friends would all start singing songs about free speech, and hatred from the bashers. They just censored my comment and went on singing about how much they hate haters.

    I also pointed out that they can’t have it both ways: either the Moslems are civilized, in which case they should be held to the same societal contract as we all are, and hence her event was fine; or Moslems are savages, in which case holding such an event would be like taunting the tiger in a zoo, which is animal cruelty. So which is it? Are Moslems civilized, in which case a violent reaction would be unexpected? Or was Geller guilty of animal cruelty, in which case we acknowledge that Moslems are animals?

    Yeah, that one got censored also. The Disco Duck doesn’t like anyone from our side that makes intelligent points.

  • mark g.

    What’s Geller’s agenda? It’s pretty simple. She wants America to continue Israel’s mission: bring about war between the US and all the Islamic enemies of Israel. Unfortunately, Americans are taking the bait.

    Free speech? It’s all about creating hostility. If Ms. Geller wants to test the limits of free speech, why not a Holocaust cartoon contest?

    • InAFreeCountry

      ..

      • Lexonaut

        That’s odd … One has a bomb, the other doesn’t. Is that the difference you’re talking about?

        • TCA

          Jews have plenty of bombs.

          • Lexonaut

            But they don’t use them in reaction to, say, neo-Nazi conventions in Kiev.

          • If you’re Jewish in Europe then you don’t have to worry about going to the extreme of setting off bombs when presented with those who call into question your history, loyalties and motives. You can just jail them for inciting racial hatred or daring to question events surrounding their sacred cow that is the Holocaust. Where do you think much of the plague of politically correctness was given birth and given room to expand? There really wasn’t a Muslim problem 20 years ago. You could call them out and let the whole world know just how idiotic it was to expect good things to happen when you allow them to come to White lands en masse. What they did was take the archetype of an oppressed minority and then redirected it to use for their own agendas. Without the groundwork being laid where a small minority used government to stymie free speech directed at the notion of “poor oppressed Jews,” there would be no significant amount of Muslims in White countries.

          • Lexonaut

            Jews have a homeland in Israel now, like it or not. They will survive, like it or not. If you come for them there you had better be prepared to die. Are they poor and oppressed? No, they’re neither. They’re fairly well off (no, it’s not US foreign aid), there’s a difference between being under constant rocket fire attack and being oppressed, and they’ve won every war they’ve been forced into.

            Thanks to the Nazis Europe is largely a Jew desert and while the few remaining are under constant attack these days, they’re free to emigrate. So in that sense they’re not oppressed in Europe, either. Israel is just a plane ride away. So is NYC.

            Do I think Pamela Geller would be marchng and rallying for someone imprisoned for Holocaust Denial? No. Of course not. She is not fighting to make the world safe for free speech, she’s fighting to rid it of Radical Islam and its enablers — people just like you.

          • Nonsense! You’ve missed a good portion of what CT had written. I don’t think he’s out to defend “radical Islam.” He as well as myself despise the muslim plague, but there’s a glaring hypocrisy in some of Geller’s activities and she’s been unwilling to concede to her own hypocrisy.

            Again, Jews don’t carry bombs with them. They don’t kill people as muslim radicals do. They don’t kill people for drawing cartoons. But they sure as hell influence the powers that be, as well as promote policies, that often result in loss of employment and various forms of government fines and penalties if one says something they don’t like, especially if they say it publicly against Jews themselves.

          • Lexonaut

            “But they sure as hell influence the powers that be” … blah blah yada yada on and on and on, ad infinitem.

            So what? What has that got to do with Radical Muslims attempting to murder cartoonists in the USA? I supose you take the position that so many others do, which goes like this …

            Of course I support free speech. In fact, I’m the first one to defend it. But Pamela Geller went too far.

            Liberals are good at this — holding two conflicting thoughts in their minds while believing both of them. Unfortunately anti-Semites are good at this too.

          • Your irony bomb detonated right in your face. You at least have that in common with Geller.

            No, the position that many of us take is that she always seems to, conveniently, never go far enough, not that she went too far. She’s the one that positions herself as some kind of paragon of free speech and Americana, and claims that “the problem is that we can’t talk about the problem.” She then turns around and ignores and purges any voice that points to organized Jewry doing many of the exact same things as the radical voices of Islam. So if there’s anyone with two conflicting thoughts, it would be people like Geller.

          • Lexonaut

            “… organized Jewry doing many of the exact same things as the radical voices of Islam”

            If you mean Israel pushing back hard (very hard) when attacked, how is that the same as an attack by Radical Islam? Are you referring to the civilian deaths collateral damage that the radicals always seek to maximize?

            Or are you talking about something completely different?

          • I thought we were mainly talking about the duality of Geller’s rabble-rousing free speech schtick? What I was talking about was obviously more about how it all relates to infiltration, manipulation, interloping and eventual cultural destruction of America and European nations. I see you’ve found a way to direct things back to the poor, oppressed Israel angle. You’re Jewish, right?

      • HJ11

        So true. In many European nations, Whites can’t even raise their arms a certain way and they can’t even question “facts” about certain things that were supposed to have happened to an alleged 6 million people.

        • Blackfish

          It’s also true that French soldiers in full battle dress are on guard outside synagogues in Paris. I saw them last month while on vacation.

    • EasternRover

      No need in creating hostility. It has been there from the very beginning.

  • InAFreeCountry

    She should hold one of these things every single weekend in different cities across the country, then have snipers on the roofs across the street.

    • Light from the East

      A perfect trap for angry and easily offended Muslim extremists like the way we catch mouses with traps.

  • Raydonn

    I’m sure Ms Geller is a big fan of Irans annual ‘Draw the Holocaust™’ contest………right?

    • SolStans

      Wow, man. That is a six-million-dollar idea!

      • Lexonaut

        Nah. You could hold “Draw the Holocaust” cartoon contests in every city in America and never be attacked by a Jew.

        Also, Raydonn does not seem to realize that to legally use the TM symbol the mark must be registered with USPATOFF as well as used in commerce.

  • Geller’s $PLC critics are running a for-profit Stalinist organization as highly-paid, self-appointed commissars. That make’s Geller’s activities seem pretty tame by First Amendment standards.

  • “The only moderate Muslim is a secular Muslim.”
    So true!

  • Easyrhino

    Some have mentioned Muslims dancing in the streets on 9/11. I’d suggest you also Google: Dancing Israelis-9/11.