Poverty Shrinks Brains from Birth

Sara Reardon, Nature, March 30, 2015

The stress of growing up poor can hurt a child’s brain development starting before birth, research suggests–and even very small differences in income can have major effects on the brain.

Researchers have long suspected that children’s behaviour and cognitive abilities are linked to their socioeconomic status, particularly for those who are very poor. The reasons have never been clear, although stressful home environments, poor nutrition, exposure to industrial chemicals such as lead and lack of access to good education are often cited as possible factors.

In the largest study of its kind, published on 30 March in Nature Neuroscience, a team led by neuroscientists Kimberly Noble from Columbia University in New York City and Elizabeth Sowell from Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, California, looked into the biological underpinnings of these effects. They imaged the brains of 1,099 children, adolescents and young adults in several US cities. Because people with lower incomes in the United States are more likely to be from minority ethnic groups, the team mapped each child’s genetic ancestry and then adjusted the calculations so that the effects of poverty would not be skewed by the small differences in brain structure between ethnic groups.

The brains of children from the lowest income bracket–less than US$25,000–had up to 6% less surface area than did those of children from families making more than US$150,000, the researchers found. In children from the poorest families, income disparities of a few thousand dollars were associated with major differences in brain structure, particularly in areas associated with language and decision-making skills. Children’s scores on tests measuring cognitive skills, such as reading and memory ability, also declined with parental income.

Martha Farah, a cognitive neuroscientist at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, calls the research “unbelievably cool”. Having such a large sample of children allowed the researchers to show the great impact of poverty on developing brains, she says, although the study cannot measure how individual brains change over time.

Nature versus nurture

The findings are in line with unpublished research conducted by Farah and her colleagues that scanned the brains of 44 African American girls, each approximately a month old, from various socioeconomic groups in Philadelphia.

Even at this early age, the researchers found, infants in the lower socioeconomic brackets had smaller brains than their wealthier counterparts. The scientists presented their research on 19 March at the Society for Research in Child Development meeting in Philadelphia.

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Farah and her colleagues plan to continue to observe these infants for two years and watch how their brain’s surface area change over time. They also plan to visit the infants’ homes in the hopes of pinpointing factors that might contribute to the differences, such as how many stimulating toys they have and how much attention they get from their parents.

Neither study explains the cause of the cognitive differences. Although the authors of both studies admit that genetic factors could be involved, they suspect that environmental exposures such as stress and nutrition are more important and begin even before the babies are born.

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  • They see both the rain and the wet sidewalks, and conclude that the wet sidewalks cause the rain.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Exactly. These p.c. weenies found black babies were born with smaller brains and assumed it was society’s fault.

      Even more pathetic are the readers’ reactions. These leftards claim brain size has no correlation with intelligence. Their source? Lying Marxist fraudster Steven Jay GHOUL.

      • LiberalismFailed

        Haha, Steven Jay Goule. The left loves him. Pseudo-science.

    • Hammerheart

      That’s because to accept the alternative conclusion is paramount to cataclysmic upheaval of eveything they were taught to believe since the first grade.

      Some people can handle that, many can’t.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Or don’t want to.

    • tetrapod

      Oh how right you are.

      It’s unbelievable:
      “Even at this early age, the researchers found, infants in the lower socioeconomic brackets had smaller brains than their wealthier counterparts.”

      It doesn’t occur to these “objective” researchers they’re mistaking cause for effect. And, how conveniently they overlook the fact that dirt poor white kids still outperform affluent blacks.

      • Anna Tree

        Also why don’t they check the size of the brains of the children of very wealthy black families?
        If it’s environment and not genetics, then they should have the same size of brains of children from wealthy white or Chinese families.
        So easy…

  • Speedy Steve

    They imaged the brains of 1,099 children, adolescents and young adults
    in several US cities. Because people with lower incomes in the United
    States are more likely to be from minority ethnic groups, the team
    mapped each child’s genetic ancestry and then adjusted the calculations
    so that the effects of poverty would not be skewed by the small
    differences in brain structure between ethnic groups.

    So, being non-White causes stupidity?

    • APaige

      I am shocked by the line: “small differences in brain structure between ethnic groups.” Shocked.

    • BlueSonicStreak

      I like the “adjusted the calculations” because of “small differences in brain structure” part.

      Suspicious eyebrow raised.

    • TruthBeTold

      The stress of growing up poor can hurt a child’s brain development starting before birth

      Here is what it’s all leading to:

      1) Poor people are stressed.
      2) Minorities are poor.
      3) Racism causes stress in minorities.
      4) We must end racism.

      I guarantee we’re going to see something like this very soon.

      • De Doc

        It’ll be the War on Poverty 2.0! Anyone care to guess the what the results will be for this government funded boondoggle?

      • george00

        Let me add 2 more.
        5) Only White people can be racist
        6) The White race should be eliminated

      • Alexandra1973

        I’m below the poverty line but not exactly stressed. I can pay my bills on time. Now dealing with a wayward husband…I have a few more gray hairs. LOL

        • Alden

          I admire you a great deal for the excellent care you give your disabled son

      • Irish

        These contortionist would be great at that old game Twister..Laughable

      • Alden

        5.Since only Whites are racist Whites must be eliminated.

      • ElComadreja

        We’ve been seeing it for over fifty years.

    • ElComadreja

      Basically yes.

    • WR_the_realist

      One thing to keep in mind is that poor whites probably have smaller average brain sizes than rich whites. So within each race poor people will have babies with smaller brain sizes than rich people. The left will always say that poverty causes small brain size when within races and between them it is small brain size that causes poverty.

  • Charles Martel

    Given food stamps and wic if there was any connection beyond genetic it would be smaller now than ever before.

    • Whitetrashgang

      It would be non existent .

    • 李冠毅

      Not necessarily. What do minorities spend their food stamps on? Do they spend it on healthy foods which promote good mental development? Or do they spend it on cheaper, less healthy foods? If the stereotype of Blacks’ love of fast food is true, then that would explain part of the differences (which are not caused by genetics).

      • george00

        This bad diet only effected their brain and not their ability to play sports.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        They do spend a lot of their food stamps on unhealthy food, but I’m not so sure that a diet of pizza and chicken nuggets in childhood is so damaging to the brain. It’s not healthy, obviously, and it will cause obesity, but there’s no real evidence that it actually causes smaller brains.

        I grew up much like blacks on welfare did (with a single mother who was on food stamps) and I was raised eating very unhealthy food, but I turned out fine. Perhaps my brain would be better than it is now if I’d eaten more salads and less pizza, but it didn’t cause the kind of brain issues that low-income black kids have. Genetics matters.

      • Alden

        The food stamp budget is pretty meager It means a lot of from scratch beans rice and 10 pound bags of potatoes On the other hand the 99 cent and dollar stores sell lots of staples

        • ElComadreja

          Not here in Marxachusetts. I see them stocking up on meats and other things I can barely afford.

        • The rabbits here did well last winter, so while “rabbit scampi” is an oxymoron, we’ll be having some of that very soon.

      • Food stamps can not normally be used on ready-to-eat food.

        • InAFreeCountry

          I know that Subway and Sheetz take them, but only for cold subs.

    • Alden

      Don’t forget school breakfast, lunch and after school snack as well as the weekend nutrition food they are given on Fridays to bring home.
      There is a new food program
      Proposed in congress . It is a year round and weekend feeding program for the poor

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    Related: “Studies Find Latino Toddlers Lag White Children in Cognitive Skills,” Carla Rivera, Los Angeles Times, October 20, 2009

    First three paragraphs:

    Poor immigrant Latinas have healthy babies, but by age 2 or 3, their toddlers begin to lag behind white middle-class children in vocabulary, listening and problem-solving skills, according to two studies released Tuesday.

    Researchers call it the “immigrant paradox”: Pregnant Latino women smoke and drink less than pregnant white and African American women, Latino newborns have lower infant mortality rates, and the cognitive skill of infants 9 to 15 months are about equal for white and Latino children.

    But by the time they are toddlers, Latino children trail their white counterparts by up to six months in understanding words, speaking in more complex sentences and performing such simple tasks as assembling puzzles.

    • TomIron361

      Bingo. That’s why they’re at the top of their game when they come to the US. They will never progress beyond the lower end of the economic ladder in this country. What you see, is what you’ve got.

      • Charles Martel

        I guess you never heard of affirmative action. Women in HR departments wet themselves thinking about the possibility of hiring a mestizo with a clean criminal record and some sort of credentialization.

        • LHathaway

          He’s a moron.

        • ElComadreja

          A mestizo with a clean record and credentials. You’re joking, right?

    • JustSayin

      But they bring good food! And wonderful music! And by golly, this place was just boring before they came along!

      /s

      • Sick of it

        The only authentic Mexican food I’ve ever tasted was horrible. Tex-Mex can be good.

        • Katherine McChesney

          The only good Mexican food I’ve had was in New Mexico. The one ingredient I loved was Hatch New Mexico green chile.

          • Sick of it

            Criollos settled in that part of the country centuries ago.

          • Katherine McChesney

            What does that have to do with New Mexican food? Beside, the Spaniard settled New Mexico. I have no idea what a Criollo is and could not care less.

          • John Smith

            One with no Indian blood. This should translate into a better dining experience than some dirty peon with a third-grade education.

          • Cid Campeador

            A Criollo was a pure Spaniard who did not have any Indio blood.

          • Kenner

            You can find them at Trader Joe’s..

        • BlueSonicStreak

          A family of Mexican immigrants that moved to my neighbourhood opened up a little restaurant down the street. I have no problems saying the tacos were amazing. Damn, I loved that food.

          Unfortunately, they had zero business sense (everything else that you would go out to eat for was terrible – zero atmosphere, seating as uncomfortable as church pews, hilariously awful sense of decoration, and they had problems with their toddler getting loose and terrorizing people trying to eat, plus the menu was only in Spanish despite no one but them in the area speaking it), and the place folded. I don’t want Mexican immigrants in Western countries; but that was a genuinely good product, and much better than squatting on welfare, so I thought it was a shame.

          • Sick of it

            There are Mexicans in my own town…who run a Nicky’s. Nicky’s does not serve authentic Mexican food.

      • Alden

        Their food is just spice and starch the spice to make an endless diet of tortillas rice and beans edible
        It is also about the most fattening cuisine in the world
        I hate Mexican food

        • Greek

          Haha my mother would agree with you, she says Mexican food is just a bunch of slop thrown together because people were poor and those ingredients were all they had.

          • Alden

            Uh that is what all poor people’s food in every country in earth is Italian is the best What poor southern Italians did with just wheat, a vegetable garden and a cow for homemade cheese is amazing

          • Greek

            yeah I know. she doesn’t blame them for being poor, just for being Mexican. We love Italian food.

    • TruthBeTold

      “immigrant paradox”

      I don’t see a paradox. I see genetics.

      • Raymond Kidwell

        Genetics is pseudo science as is I.Q.

        • ElComadreja

          Anything that proves their inherent inferiority just can’t be real, right? Please tell us about all the great negro and mestizo contributions to human civilization.

          • Raymond Kidwell

            Well firstly Einstein did not copy most of his general relativity from Nazi scientists as you may be led to believe. Instead he stole it from an African bush man. The light bulb was not invented by Thomas Edison but rather a black man. The Constitution was written by George Washington’s slaves. The only great white man to exist was Karl Marx. He is the true genius. (P.S. play along with this if you want to get a passing grade and good job in the real world).

    • listenupbub

      Differences in cognitive skills do not differ early in life. Differences and heritability of intelligence increases with maturity. It is a function of the way the brain develops. This is well known by IQ researchers, but the author is being cryptic about it.

    • Alden

      Where did they find White middle class children in Los Angeles?

    • Irish

      The Miami-Dade school system has the highest test scores in America for a majority-minority school district..The obvious reason being that the Miami-Dade Schools are filled to very large extent with the children of Cuban (White Hispanic) exiles. As opposed to the inner city blacks of Detroit & Chicago, or the Mexicans of L.A. or San Antonio. .

  • MekongDelta69

    Endless excuses for the ‘oppressed‘.

    • LexiconD1

      Well, you don’t expect people, who’ve been told their whole lives they are ‘victims’, to look at themselves for a solution, would you?

  • Pa Guy in NJ

    Shouldn’t parents with lower incomes have more time to spend with their kids since they aren’t out makin’ them Gs?

    • LexiconD1

      You’re probably on to something. Kids who have parents who engage with them, inside and outside of the home (aka reading to them, imaginative play, playing games, build blocks, taking them to the park for example), have smarter kids. Or at least it ADDS onto an already existing IQ, and intelligence. Plus teaching manners, also contributes.

      The kid needs well rounded experiences to become well rounded people, even very early in life.

    • Alden

      Actually, that was a major reason for home relief as it was called back 100 years ago
      The idea was that poor children would be better off with Mother at home than at work 60 hours a week.
      It worked with Whites., not with blacks and Hispanics

    • De Doc

      That’s assuming they are not skunk drunk or high as a kite, which is the case for many of these inner city, low income types. Crappy parenting plays a huge role I beleive in overall development of these kids, even if they are genetically predisposed to lower IQs. Despite EBT and welfare most of these parents are too stupid to know what good nutrition is anyway, assuming they are not blowing the public assistance allowances on other things. The triple whammy of inherent lower IQ, bad environment, and poor diet (the latter two in early stages of development) pretty much doom these kids to the life we read about in the daily crime reports in any city newspaper.

      This reminds me of the attempts of Whites in North America and Australia during the early 20th c. to reform kids from certain indigenous groups by taking them away from their native environments. I don’t recall much benefit from these exercises, except for resentment later on from the groups whose kids were targeted. Such past failures makes me doubtful that massive change is possible by throwing money and social work/dietician services at these poverty stricken folks.

  • evilsandmich

    But IQ doesn’t exist so no problem yo

  • IstvanIN

    Didn’t Thomas Edison and Marie Curie grow up poor?

    • Charles Martel

      But they had White Privilege, the Wright Bros where just bicycle mechanics that outdid Langley who was rich with an ivy league education

      • WilmotRobertson

        They took their invisible sustenance out of their invisible knapsack.

    • MrBiIIGoode .

      Primitive in the jungle don’t know that they’re living in what civilization would call poverty. Yet these group still have the lowest IQ’s.

    • Alden

      Henry Ford grew up on a hardscrabble farm

      • John Smith

        But not dirt poor, just not well-off.

    • WilmotRobertson

      Not sure, but their prehistoric ancestors lived on glaciers for an extended period of time where food was scarce, and not in the supermarket equivalent that is sub-Saharan Africa. If the hypothesis offered in this paper were true, then a people whose distant ancestors lived above a certain latitude, where food was very scarce, should have an IQ equal to that of a jelly fish.

    • Irish

      You forgetting about White Privilege.

  • Tarczan

    “They also plan to visit the infants’ homes in the hopes of pinpointing factors that might contribute to the differences, such as how many stimulating toys they have and how much attention they get from their parents.”

    The twelve pack of malt liquor their babby daddys drink every night might be a factor.

    • John Smith

      And the crack mommy smoked while pregnant.

      • Katherine McChesney

        And the big orange soda their mother put in their milk bottle.

        • John Smith

          Except white people do this too, usually with Mountain Dew, mainly down in the hollers of Appalachia.

          • Irish

            Clearly those that didn’t follow the Hillbilly highway to Detroit & Columbus a 100 years ago were a tad slow outta the gate, and obviously they’ve left behind a rather sad genetic legacy.

          • John Smith

            And I bet they’ll still test smarter than the average negro and the crime stats show far less inclination to violent crime as well.

          • Irish

            I don’t for a second doubt your correct..As for violence, that’s where Africans higher testosterone & lower impulse control levels would show up.

          • Alden

            They do

          • InAFreeCountry

            Hillbilly is derogatory. It’s Mountain William now.

          • Alden

            But their White privilege conquers the poor diet. I just thought of something. Didn’t poor White and black southerners eat the same diet for centuries?

  • MrBiIIGoode .

    This sounds alot like the whole stereotype threat theory which claimed that blacks do worse than whites on intelligence tests due to what would be essencially the power of suggestion. Blacks hear that they are inferior thus they do worse on the tests. After scrutinised the theory was shown the be very weak.

    • Sick of it

      Black students actually tell their teachers they cannot do the work, not the other way around.

  • Sick of it

    “and then adjusted the calculations so that the effects of poverty would
    not be skewed by the small differences in brain structure between ethnic
    groups.”

    So they went with propaganda rather than science. Not surprised in the least.

  • John Smith

    Can negroes really cope with having their brains shrunk even more than usual?

    • George Costanza

      The real question is, can we cope?

      • John Smith

        I remember dissecting rats in school for tissue samples a few times and just one testicle was as big as its brain. I’m thinking there might be a parallel here.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    How do they explain the smart people who come out of poverty?

    • 李冠毅

      Culture may explain part of it. You may have read that Northeast Asians from very poor environments still tend to score very high on IQ tests. The reason for this is due to our culture, which traditionally promotes care for the young. For example, in the West, young people are expected to stand up and offer their seats to old people. But here, the old tend to give up their seats to young children. A well known story here goes something like this: a young girl doesn’t understand why her mother always give her the best parts of a fish during mealtimes while eating the fish head herself, which isn’t an appetizing part of a fish. But after she grew up and have children, she started doing the same, as she wanted the best for her children. Then, she finally understood why people “like to eat fish heads after they grow up”.

      In short, a child in such a healthy environment is bound to develop better than another child who was neglected. What do Blacks spend their welfare on? If the stereotype that Blacks like fast food is true, then that would partly explain the reason for low Black IQ. Growing up on a poor diet impairs development.

  • Okay, so let me see if I get this right: The brains of poor people are made smaller by the effects of poverty and this primarily affects African Americans, but the reason that African Americans are more likely to be poor has nothing to do with their heredity but because of racism? You see race is only a social construct and all races are precisely equal, so all races should be equally represented at all income levels, but the brains of the poor are smaller because of their poverty that has nothing to do with their less intelligence but with racism. You see we are all equal, even though poverty makes the brains of poor people smaller? Geeze……how am I going to follow this?

    • carriewhite64

      I think it will take all of my energy, concentration, and focus to apply this theory to the realities of what I see every day. Excuse me if I walk around in a trance-like state for a few months.

      • Spikeygrrl

        Or you could just give up on this thread like I did: DON’T MAKE WAVES!

        Only slightly OT:
        I was seriously considering submitting one of my latest op/ed drafts to AmRen. So I perused its guidelines for submissions, according to which men must always be referred to as Mr. or Dr. or Prof., and women must be referred to as Miss or Mrs. Ummm…what about Misses and Mrses who ARE legitimate Drs and Profs? (Perfect example: Phyllis Schlafly.)

        I have loved to bits this site, and its predecessor hardcopy newsletter/”magazine, ” over most of the last two decades. Much to my sorrow and frustration, I must now, regretfully, reevaluate my loyalty to this publication in whatever media it appears.

        • BlueSonicStreak

          Somehow not surprised. (Also, laughing at the total rejection of “Ms.” even in the case of unknown marital status.) Is this an oversight, mods?

          • Spikeygrrl

            YA THINK??

            However, in fairness, AmRen absolutely has the right to set its own rules for Comments, and even more so for its op/eds.

            I’ve been writing op/eds for 30+ years, virtually always commissioned by the publisher. This latest one, too, will find a publisher, or a publisher will find it. Just not at AmRen.

          • Spikeygrrl

            What’s funniest to me is that Southerners had this issue handled a long time ago. Every grown woman was addressed as “Miz,” regardless of marital status. No muss, no fuss.

            I’m actually quite surprised that Mr. Taylor evidently does not know this.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            It comes off to me as petulant foot-stamping about feminism, “Ms” being rather heavily associated with feminist agitating.

            But I don’t honestly think the feminists were ever wrong about this, there being no reason I can see to need to know a woman’s relation to a man before addressing her.

            Heck, I see zero problem with the singular “they” you mentioned in your other comment, either. If you are speaking hypothetically, I guess I’d rather someone settled solidly on “he” or “she.” But I’m not fussed either way.

          • Spikeygrrl

            That’s why this particular guideline is so inexplicable to me, because the South already had the answer: spelled differently (Miz v. Ms.) but pronounced the same, making no distinction as to marital status.

            But that’s chump change next to the guideline which denies to a woman the honorific (MD, PhD, Mayor, Senator, Governor, etc.) that she has legitimately earned.

        • carriewhite64

          Are you saying a female medical doc cannot be called “Dr. Mary Smith” but “Mrs. Mary Smith” according to the guidelines?

          • Spikeygrrl

            That’s what the style guide says. Click on it and see for yourself.

          • carriewhite64

            I’m…..not sure what to think. That doesn’t make sense. I am familiar with the most popular style handbooks and guides and have done a fair amount of editing, and I have never come across this as a style practice. What is the rationale? Please share your thoughts with me.

          • Spikeygrrl

            How should I know what NR’s rationale is? I posted the FACT here because I’m just as baffled by it as you are.

          • carriewhite64

            Sorry. That was just a rhetorical question. I was just asking if you had any thoughts to share. Never mind.

          • Spikeygrrl

            I am sincerely sorry if my previous post came off snappy. It’s just that I, too, have written and edited for pay, and — like you — have never before seen anything like this.

            I understand (and mainly sympathize with) Mr. Taylor’s desire to sweep AmRen clean of all that useless his-or-her/”they”-as-singular kraap into which which we all get brainwashed these days.

            I also largely approve of Taylor’s take that “feminazis” have pushed the definition of “feminism” way beyond the pale. But how on Earth does he expect to grow this group — and beyond — when not a week goes by without a gratuitous slam of women appearing on this board?

            Raw talent proclaims its natural status WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO.

            (And they wonder why there are not more women here.)

            I will only say to such malcontent men, GOOD LUCK at producing and raising without us all those White, conservative kids you say you want.

          • carriewhite64

            Yes, I agree with everything you say. Ms. is a great all-purpose female title. For instance, I was widowed young and never remarried. Miss as a title for me is inappropriate, since I have my husband’s last name. But lately Mrs. also seems weird, since I have been single so long. Ms. is perfect. And we use it here in the South for all women over the age of 15 anyway.As for the rules about Dr. and other professional titles, that’s just ridiculous. What about Queen or Princess? Sergeant? Senator?

          • Spikeygrrl

            “I have only been commenting here for a couple of weeks, don’t recall any snark about women yet”

            Don’t worry, it’s coming. 😉

            I usually prefer to keep my mouth shut here about such things — in service to shared ideals — rather than be buried daily with what passes for “feminism” (but is actually female supremicism) at Slate, Salon, HuffPo, NYT, etc.

          • carriewhite64

            Well, that’s discouraging. I’ll keep in touch.

          • Spikeygrrl

            Please do.

          • carriewhite64

            OK, I just read the comment threads on Race, Assortative Mating and Inequality. I see what you mean.

          • Spikeygrrl

            With the utmost compassion: I told you so.

            It’s especially hard to take re assortative mating, an area of inquiry which has fascinated me for decades…including 12 years at the helm of an international high IQ, racial realist study group which recognized that true MULTIVARIATE analysis of assortative mating is mission-critical to the survival of Whites who are committed to breeding UP, not down (Idiocracy-style).

            You’d think that would be something in which this group would be interested, neh? Au contraire. In these parts, that’s just too much logic and science from a woman.

            Now that you’ve seen the issue for yourself, I hope you’ll make the same decision that I made and STAY. Dunno ’bout you, but I’d much rather occasionally be sneered at by sincere race realists than be welcomed with open arms by toxic, male-despising feminazis.

          • carriewhite64

            I wanted to think about your post before I responded. Also, I had to look up some of the terms and concepts in your second paragraph. Your work sounds fascinating and important.I do plan to stick around. The negative comments about white women, it seems, come from a committed minority of commenters. And I get the strong implication from the tone of these comments that perhaps the issues with white women are, shall we say, a little more personal than universal.Most of the comments about women are simple statements of fact: men are physically stronger than women, etc. I don’t mind these at all.Here’s what confuses me: I only have anecdotal evidence based on observation and living, but I don’t see America populated by high-powered, high earning white women who are refusing to have children with white men, instead choosing to reproduce with and support black or Hispanic men or not have children at all. Likewise, I don’t see America full of young white men begging white women to give up their jobs (and salaries!) in order to stay home and have their many white children. I would guess that there are more young white women who want to marry and raise children than there are young white men who want that.I remember some comment threads wherein someone angrily accused women of refusing to stay home and have children. Then, a few comments down, someone angrily accuses women of taking advantage of men by staying home and living off their money and work. So what do men want? And what are women to conclude? I think most women would rationally choose to secure their own financial futures rather than risk being at home with the children of a man who resents them and believes they are taking advantage of him somehow. I’m wondering how we are to define a “good woman” according to the contradictory standards of behavior as displayed here by some commenters. Very puzzling. Thank you for your thoughts.

          • Spikeygrrl

            And thank you for your thoughts too! Now it’s my turn to process before responding. 🙂

            Which will not be tonight. I’m exhausted from this evening’s physical therapy and will probably be asleep inside of 30 minutes.

            I’ll yak atcha tomorrow!

        • Alden

          Dr and prof are for surnames no?

          • Spikeygrrl

            I don’t understand your question. I just think it stinks that at AmRen, Jack Smith who has earned a PhD is Dr. Jack Smith, whereas Jill Miller who also has earned a PhD is Mrs. Jill Miller.

          • InAFreeCountry

            It’s the patriarchy inherent in the system. How about Dr. Mrs. Jill Miller?

      • Applying logic to liberal theories will do that to you.

      • Spikeygrrl

        Well, isn’t this interesting: Both my post on the Southern usage of Miz v. Ms. — and the previous post to which it responded — were removed. No biggie, I’ve had posts removed before.

        But instead of the usual placeholder “This comment has been deleted” there was . . . nothing. Pffft. Down the memory hole.

        I’m trying to reconstruct that post in my mind, fine-toothed combing it hopefully to figure out what, exactly, I wrote that got the mods’ panties into that big a bunch.

        In the event anyone reads and remembers this post: stick around. I’m betting that whoever removed those other posts will remove this one, too — and I want WITNESSES!

        • BlueSonicStreak

          Odd…I think all your comments are still visible to me, Spikeygrrl. Maybe there is no placeholder because it’s actually your browser?

          • Spikeygrrl

            I thought of that…but my browser on this phablet has never failed me before, AND it’s only the two posts (the post I responded to, and my response) which are gone.

            It’s very likely that both went down the Memory Hole because (oh, the irony!) both were mildly critical of AmRen’s Comments policies.

            I’ve never been one to bite the hand that feeds, but once in a while one must inform even one’s favorite sources — out of genuine protective instinct — that THIS time they have well and truly screwed the pooch.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            I was going to say, “Your Fave Is Problematic.” But if you don’t know that particular liberal meme, it’s not going to be funny.

          • Spikeygrrl

            No, I don’t know it, because I no longer socialize with “liberals,” either online or in person.

            Will you please pardon my ignorance and explain it? In advance, thank you.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            It’s actually a little difficult to explain (or maybe I’m just not running on all cylinders at this hour), but very easy to show – just google the phrase. You should find the Tumblr blog that started it.

            It’s basically a blog where people obsessively catalog “favourite” celebrities unwittingly failing to live up to every aspect of their leftist ideology.

            So it’s become a meme in liberal circles. (Or at least, ones I used to have more contact with.) When someone or something you otherwise like does something messed up, it’s common to point out, “sometimes your faves are problematic.” The idea being to accept that they might be at fault and not to defend their idiocy.

            Of course, the reason liberals might be more tempted than others to defend their “faves” being wrong is that so much of modern radical liberalism revolves around witch hunts and a total rejection of “problematic” things. Get caught liking something “problematic,” and you have to make a choice between rejecting that person/website/thing or being “problematic” yourself. Gasp!

            My joke here revolved around a juxtaposition (because generally, people who lean more to the right here aren’t extreme enough to reject a website over a small point of disagreement) which was funny in my head.

            Having explained all that, I’m not sure it was funny at all other than to me. Sorry.

          • Spikeygrrl

            Wow, thanks for the lengthy response. And now, go get some sleep! I know I’m useless after more than 2 consecutive nights entirely sleepless.

  • Raymond Kidwell

    Poverty does have a marginally negative impact on I.Q. It has all been explored in depth in The Bell Curve. Yet the one or two I.Q. point reduction doesn’t account for the 30 or 40 point gap between these groups.

    • Right. These researches do not cite the literature and want to repeat prior research.

  • Alexandra1973

    I was born more or less in poverty, and with a club foot. I was a bit behind developmentally because I couldn’t explore, but the doctor said I had a good memory so I’d catch up. I did and then some.

    Oh yeah, and I had reduced-price lunch. Yet I was in honors classes. Hm.

    • ncpride

      I went to school with a White girl who was painfully dirt poor, yet by far the smartest kid in our class for years. Her parents were farmers. I’ve since learned she earned a medical degree, which surprises me not at all. I understood even then this girl was going places.

      • Alexandra1973

        Even my son was non-verbal until the age of 4, but he too has an excellent memory. I found he could point out different shapes and colors when asked when he was 18 months old. I think that helped him when he finally did learn to talk. He’s smart as a whip…you have to get to know him a bit before you figure that out.

        I think he’s getting to be a better Angry Birds player than I! LOL He might have a future designing stuff, who knows? He’s fascinated with building things.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      I was born and raised in poverty too. My mother was raising me by herself and we lived on food stamps, and I also got free lunch. Nonetheless, I was successful in school (despite the fact that my mother never graduated high school and had no interest in intellectual pursuits). I graduated high school and I will be done with college in about a year or so.

      Poverty makes it harder to succeed, but it is not impossible to do well even with poor parents. I know a few other white kids like me (and a couple of non-whites) who also managed to do well despite being as poor as it’s possible to be in the U.S. Focusing on school work and not getting a criminal record can bring a poor kid far if he or she works at it.

  • Fathercoughlin

    Feminism Alert!! This “study” was done by women;proceed with extreme caution.

    • Alexandra1973

      I’d like to see a study on feminism making one’s brain shrink. Me, it makes my head spin…the utter absurdity.

  • Jason Lewis

    The lack of intellectual honesty in this article is amazing. I guess they saw what happened James Watson.

  • Reverend Bacon

    The truth is, as usual, buried in their comments section. An astute reader observed, gently, “This is probably trivial, but have the correlations been corrected for parental brain size/surface area? After all, there might be a genetically heritable reason for parents being in the 25k or 150k income bracket.”

    Bingo.

    There’s much about this that needs open and honest peer review, which it probably wouldn’t survive. To wit: “Because people with lower incomes in the United States are more likely to be from minority ethnic groups, the team mapped each child’s genetic ancestry and then adjusted the calculations so that the effects of poverty would not be skewed by the small differences in brain structure between ethnic groups.” That’s a vague summary, but it may mean that they compared each child with the average size brain from that ethnic group. Who knows?

    Regardless, the commenter quoted above really nailed it.

    • BlueSonicStreak

      I wonder if that commenter was hedging a bit (to avoid angry comments rolling in) in suggesting their concern was “trivial.” It’s obviously not trivial; it’s a huge methodological flaw if the study didn’t consider the parental brain size.

      • Reverend Bacon

        Yes, I admired both his or her insight as well as the deftness with which it was sneaked past the censors.

  • LHathaway

    This isn’t completely unprecedented. There is an area in the brain that is supposed to be larger simply because someone says high to you, rewards you, and interacts with you more often.

    It’s possibly they ‘perform worse’ because they have stupid parents, and that their parents are stupid for other than genetic reasons. We’ll go with their parents are stupid because that’s a side effect of being in love with ignorance, violence and racism.

    If this would have been mostly White children I would have blamed this on a kind of natural selection. White women can often afford to be more choosy and they normally choose bigger stronger healthier looking men. In fact, very few women in the entire country marry a man who is smaller and weaker herself, let alone date one. I’m guessing that challenging gender roles, and efforts to reduce spousal abuse against women, have limits. That limit being the where it might potentially interfere with what a woman believes is in her own best interest?

    • Spikeygrrl

      Smaller, quite often. Or would you rather regulate things such that tall, athletic, big boned women just give up at puberty and go lesbo?

      Weaker, not so much if you quit focusing on muscles, and instead roll in weaker personality, weaker intellect, and weaker paycheck.

      • LHathaway

        I would expect them to challenge gender roles, and do their part to help end spousal abuse of women. It’s not that complicated. I wouldn’t have thought my post was too hard to understand. But then, that would be too much to ask, asking them to do something that wasn’t completely in their own self interest.

        I believe Esther Vilar once wrote, ‘in the name of love, men do things that are a disadvantage to themselves. In the name of love, women will only do things that are an advantage to them.

        • Spikeygrrl

          You have a very dismal view of women.

          • InAFreeCountry

            We learn what we live.

          • Spikeygrrl

            If the women you spend time with are so horrific, you really need to spend your time with a better class of women.

            Oh, we’re still out there…but you’d better jump fast, because by the time most American men get bored with playing video games in Mom and Dad’s basement, virtually all decent conservative and libertarian women are already spoken for.

          • InAFreeCountry

            Oh, I am still looking. It’s harder to find a good woman than it used to be. Just as I am sure it’s hard to find a good man.

          • Spikeygrrl

            Completely agreed.

          • Spikeygrrl

            Hear, hear!

            After a truly financially and emotionally disastrous divorce in my mid-30s from my previous husband who was also my business partner (OUCH!!!), I pretty much resigned myself to being an old maid forever after. Then the miracle: I met and got involved with a man who was really smart, funny, a political minarchist just like me, a verocious reader just like me, and the closest man I’d ever met in person to my facial and physical ideal (I myself am no cover girl).

            Quelle surprise, I got remarried at 41… and 14 years later we’re still married.

            Oh, did I mention that he’s 15 years younger than I am? He didn’t marry me for money (I didn’t have any) or for looks (not a cover girl, remember?). He says he fell in love with my mind, and after 14 years maybe I ought to start believing him. 😉

            The moral of this story is: THROW THE NET WIDE, because there’s never a way to predict who will swim into it. There’s a substantial chance that your Miss Right will differ in quite a few respects from that checklist you carry around in your head.

            Good luck, and DON’T GIVE UP!

  • RacialRay

    Have researchers considered the potential impact of unintentional in-breeding on cognitive function among certain notable demographics? Figure that any black stud cutting a wide swath through the pool of available incubators in the ghetto is likely dropping chillens like dandruff. How many of those offspring eventually hook up with one another 15 years later, completely unaware that they are half-siblings?

    Yeah, I know. The mental images are positively arresting.

    • Spikeygrrl

      “Positively” arresting?! Not so much.

      “Negatively” arresting would hew more closely to the truth.

    • Weisheit77

      This is precisely what I think every time I hear the word “inbred” implied to whites. Of course, pointing this out to someone just makes you a racist, inbred hatemonger.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      Black half-siblings or cousins having kids is probably more common than most people think. For those blacks who do not know their fathers and their fathers’ families, it’s hard to know if someone they meet on the streets or in the club is related to them through him.

      This might be mitigated by the fact that blacks tend to move around a lot, though. They don’t seem to like staying in one place for decades at a time. If there’s enough shuffling of blacks between different neighborhoods and cities, they may be able to avoid this problem for the most part.

      I would be interested to see a study on the average number of runs of homozygosity (a measurement of the level of inbreeding in the genome) among inner-city American blacks. But no one will ever do this study because “das racis.'”

  • SaggyGenes

    Poor whites outscore wealthy blacks on academic tests. That they do so despite being cognitively stunted shows how dramatic the racial intelligence gap is, and is further evidence that the gap is innate.

    • LHathaway

      Evidence, but not proof.

      • Spikeygrrl

        “Proof” is a tricky metric these days. Just ask algore.

      • studies of identical twins reared apart, transracial adoption studies, Bouchard at U Minnesota, …. Plenty of scientific research shows IQ is 50% to 80% heritable

        • LHathaway

          50% heritable? Expect them do double the social retardation.

  • Alden

    The Irish lived in extreme poverty and malnutrition for 300 years . Their IQs were not affected at all. But that’s White
    Privilege for you; live in a dug out on the side of a hill, eat seaweed and not much if it and your evil White Privilege still oppresses the blacks and browns
    Poor Americans on food stamps both eat and live better than most if the world ever did

  • Hilis Hatki

    In other news, Cart Pushes Horse.

  • themaharajah

    Why is the poverty not affecting their body development also?, I see plenty of poor, stupid, small brained blacks playing in the NFL and 250+lb welfare queens on EBT that could crush most upper class white girls. But of course there could be genetic factors at play there, but definitely not when it comes to brain size!!

    • Weisheit77

      You just made me think of the Flynn effect, which I think is the one that shows that proper nutrition drives up the average IQ of a people. As you’ve mentioned, wouldn’t their body size point to the supposed development that the Flynn effect predicts on their IQs? I guess it’s possible, as long as we consider that they were even dumber before.

      • Google “Philippe Rushton Flynn effect”. It has basically been debunked as an effect of increased test taking skills. It does not close racial gaps and it has no effect on g loading, the main effect of general intelligence.

    • Cid Campeador

      Potato chips, Mad Dog and Colt 45 do tend to increase body fat.

  • MG Huffman

    You can always count on liberal “scientists” for a good laugh. Another one of my favorite theories was that children who don’t hear enough spoken words when they’re toddlers will have lower IQ’s at adulthood. The charlatans of the Left desperately and pathetically cling to the notion that environment and not genetics determine a person’s characteristics.

    • John Smith

      I agree with it, but I also believe that you can’t overcome genetics, in that white and black children raised the same will not have equal outcomes.

    • Spikeygrrl

      What, there are parents who don’t read and sing to their child when it is still in the womb? /sarc, unfortunately

    • BlueSonicStreak

      Well, it’s certainly true that if a child doesn’t hear speech when they are very young, they won’t learn to talk and their development will be stunted! At what point does the amount of speech become negligible?

      I don’t know, but I sure know that I talk LOTS to young children, and in full sentences (no “baby talk”) to be on the safe side.

      • Well, if the child is raised by wolves, that is a problem. But if someone somewhere speaks something, children pick it up. Try Susan Clancy “The Nurture Hypothesis”

        • BlueSonicStreak

          Well yes, they pick up something in the way of speech. But my understanding is that children soak up whatever language they hear. Is there an innate way for the brain to correct it if what they’re hearing is poorly spoken, or is it GI/GO?

          Don’t tell me you haven’t noticed that many black people sound like they have a mouth full of half-chewed marshmallows whenever they speak. It can approach the point where they barely seem able to form words well enough to be understood.

          I have no idea what that’s about, as I’m not an expert on language acquisition OR speech disorders; but like I said, I am not taking chances on a child learning anything but clear diction and decent English from me.

      • Alexandra1973

        My son didn’t learn to talk until he was 4. We talked to him a LOT before then. He’s also on the autism spectrum.

        It seems he speaks like a baby (and his voice is deepening–he’s 13)…but when he’s mad he can speak clearly.

  • BlueSonicStreak

    They find these differences in the brains of children A MONTH OLD, and conclude it’s caused by poverty.

    Absolutely dumbfounding.

    • 李冠毅

      It’s possible that the children from such backgrounds were never given a fair chance to develop. Environment comes into play as early as the womb; a pregnant woman smoking and living an unhealthy lifestyle will negatively impact the fetus’ development (fetal alcohol syndrome is a good example). Also, a baby from a poor family is probably exposed to more parasites and diseases, less likely to get good healthcare and nutrition, and so on. Even with welfare, poor parents may be less knowledgeable in how to care for the baby, and this can stunt the child’s growth.

      • BlueSonicStreak

        So…we need transracial adoption studies that take into account whether or not the birth mothers smoked, drank and ate terribly, I suppose.

  • Irish

    Oh Man,!..This ones too easy…ROTFLMAO

  • De Doc

    “Neither study explains the cause of the cognitive differences. Although the authors of both studies admit that genetic factors could be involved, they suspect that environmental exposures such as stress and nutrition are more important and begin even before the babies are born.”

    So they can’t rule out the genetic component. Nutrition and stress (crappy parenting) I’m sure accounts for something too, but how much is anyone’s guess. To instill proper environment and nutrition for most of these kids would require wrenching them from their homes, but I can’t imagine that happening.

    AmRen published last year a review of a book by an economist entitled, “The Son Also Rises”, that had as a premise that certain surnames across many developed cultures were predictors of upward mobility and economic success. Even massive societal resets, like political revolutions, did not seem to affect the reappearance of these names later on amongst the elite and wealthy. The implication of course is that genetics do matter, and good stock, even in the face of tremendous adversity still often overcomes. Somehow I don’t see Dontavious or Loquaishia Jackson bucking these trends set by Mother Nature, no matter how much geld or free victuals & housing we give them.

    • BlueSonicStreak

      Nutrition and stress (crappy parenting) I’m sure accounts for something too, but how much is anyone’s guess.

      Transracial adoption studies would suggest very little. If I recall correctly, the IQs of black kids raised by white parents are barely any different from those raised by black parents.

      That is, unless the majority of the damage done by “poverty” happens while the brain is at its most plastic. Which doesn’t seem to make a whole lot of sense to me, but…

      • Usually Much Calmer

        Just because X has negligible effect on black children, it does not follow that X has negligible effect on children from other populations. We are not the same kinds of beings. It is a mistake to make a straight inference about people in general based on observations from blacks.

        • BlueSonicStreak

          Well, sure, I would totally agree with that. But I WAS talking about blacks, so…

          • Usually Much Calmer

            I must have misunderstood the essence of your reply to De Doc, then. My apologies.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            No worries. You weren’t wrong! I sometimes wonder what crucial differences “we’re all exactly equal” could end up obscuring.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            I think “we’re all exactly equal” is extremely psycically harmful.
            I am relieved you are not offended.

    • Weisheit77

      Is that the same thing that Ron Unz on the American Conservative wrote about… At least, I think he did (my mind is my filing system).
      He was talking about Chinese family names and was able to track over the centuries how certain families grew and other disappeared and due to the nature of Chinese society (much like ancient European society), you could over a couple of generations become so poor that one could not afford to reproduce and then the family’s extinction was complete. I think he tracked the Wangs, and there are a lot of Wangs. They must have been a very successful family.

      Interestingly enough, although my grandfathers were blue collar salt of the Earth SC boys, one died a multimillionaire and the other a master carpenter and mason who was a foreman up into his 70’s. My sisters have been doing ancestral research and we’ve come to find out that a lot of our ancestors before the civil war were prominent men of well to do families. I have one ancestor who was the chief engineer of the Georgia railroad during the war. That means he was the chief logistics man in the main production and transportation center of the south. Well, my parents are solidly upper middle class and my sisters are I are also trending that way, too. Both of my grandfathers were born into the poverty of the deep south of the depression.

  • bubo

    Painfully obvious but the “education gap” would be much lower if the US Gub’ment hadn’t spent the last 50 years exponentially growing the black underclass. They took the blacks that made the poorest decisions and had the worst lifestyles and paid them to reproduce.

    I believe that if welfare had never come around the black population would be much better off, and much much smaller.

    • Weisheit77

      Not only did they pay them to reproduce, but they used popular media portrayals of degenerate black behavior to undermine the morals of non-blacks in those daycare centers they call public schools.

  • The researchers have two theories about why poor children have
    smaller brains. One is that poor families lack access to material goods
    that help healthy development, like good nutrition and higher quality
    health care. The other theory is that poor families tend to live more
    chaotic lives, and that stress could be inhibiting brain development in
    children.

    Noble has embarked on a new study to try to answer
    that question. She has begun a pilot study to investigate whether giving
    low-income mothers a small or large monthly sum impacts the cognitive
    development of their children in their first three years of life. She
    plans to recruit 1,000 low-income mothers from around the country, half
    of whom would receive $333 a month, while the other half receive $20 a
    month for three years. That research is expected to take five years.

    washingtonpost
    com/local/education/poverty-linked-to-brain-structure-in-children-new-research-shows/2015/03/31/25fe6f10-d7df-11e4-8103-fa84725dbf9d_story.html

    Is there no other theory, like this pesky heritable IQ theory? Has Noble’s experiment not been done before? give cash to poor mothers? Will they report on the inevitable result disproving both of his theories? Maybe it closes 5% of the gap and that will be reported as a huge success.

    Is it not clear that this does not change IQ, except if children are totally undernourished. What would change IQ is preventing pregnant mothers from drinking alcohol, or having the pick brighter boyfriends. Or inciting high IQ mothers to have babies.

    • archer

      “giving cash to poor mothers”, glad you brought that up, with all the subsidies available like ebt cards, food stamps, section 8 housing, subsidized health care, etc. who is really poor today, in Ma. these subsidies amount to making close to 50k a year, I’m willing to bet that was not taken into consideration.

  • superlloyd

    ‘The brains of children from the lowest income bracket–less than US$25,000–had up to 6% less surface area than did those of children from families making more than US$150,000, ‘

    But,as recently noted by Steve Sailer, on the 2008 SAT poor whites outperformed rich blacks. This doesn’t seem to effect poor whites only ‘people of color’. More specifically, whites from family incomes of $20 – $40K outperformed blacks from family incomes of more than $200K. Why are such privileged blacks scoring so low on the SAT? The obvious answer, noted by many others, is genetics and the fact that these affluent blacks probably have their incomes as a result of affirmative action.

    Again, these idiots have only looked at correlation not cause. They have just assumed the smorgasbord of environmental effects with zero proofs. Then again, the true cause beez rayciss and unspeakable – heredity.

    • archer

      They can’t come out and admit the obvious, their whole racial equality, and there is no such thing as race scam would fall apart.

    • Copyright101

      The obvious answer, noted by many others, is genetics and the fact that
      these affluent blacks probably have their incomes as a result of
      affirmative action.

      Regression to the mean as well.

      If we were to assume that all these high income blacks were that way due to IQ, then they would be outliers and most of their children would trend down toward the black mean IQ. Of course reality is messier than that and they owe their position to multiple factors of which IQ is only one.

  • superlloyd

    ”the small differences in brain structure between ethnic groups.” tend not to be so small and have a 0.4 correction with IQ.

    ”Rushton (2000; Rushton & Ankney, 1996) summarized the world database
    using the three methods on which there are a sufficient number of studies
    (autopsies, endocranial volume, and head measurements), as well as head mea-
    surements corrected for body size (see Rushton, 2000, pp. 126–132, Table 6.6).
    The results in cm3 or equivalents were as follows: East Asians

  • Light from the East

    If so then poor people should not have children, but I think Sara Reardon does not care.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    The ideology of Cultural Marxism has become a substitute for real science: That’s how one gets such laughable conclusions as this, and also how one gets the “Global Warming” movement…

    • 李冠毅

      I don’t get it. What is it with global warming? Many people here seem to think its a lie. I think global warming is completely plausible. Correct me if I’m wrong, but all the carbon accumulated over eons in the form of coal, natural gas, and oil suddenly released into the atmosphere in a relatively short time span… that’s going to trap in more sunlight and heat, right?

      • Alexandra1973

        No. Carbon dioxide rises *in response* to any warming, it doesn’t cause it. These climate-change scaremongers have cause and effect turned around.

        • 李冠毅

          Huh? This is different to everything I’ve ever read on this topic. Can you please explain?

      • Earl P. Holt III

        You’ve been indoctrinated for too long: The Earth has actually been experiencing a sustained cooling period that has continued almost unabated since the late 1990s.

        However, this fact is not reflected in the falsified data of East Anglia or other institutions of “higher learning,” which have a profound vested financial interest in promoting “Global Warming” because of the Billions of dollars in grants that are ear-marked for its study. (And, needless to say, it’s promotion.)

        When the Berlin Wall fell, “Red” became “Green”: Communists sought to camouflage themselves in order to mask their ideology — which had become unfashionable — and as a result, entered the “Environmental Movement” in droves.

        From there, they seek to control the economies of the Western nations through taxation and regulation, instead of a violent “Revolt of the Proletariat.”

        They are the moral and intellectual heirs of Trofim Lysenko, who also substituted ideology for science, to the detriment of his nation…

        • Weisheit77

          It’s funny you mention the Berlin wall. The German Green party was have direct connections to the communists as has even been spied on by the German government for that reason. Bundnis 90, Die Grünen, and Die Linke all have communist roots.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            The AMERICAN SPECTATOR had a British author named Tom Bethel, who used to attend all those communist demonstrations in Europe and write about them in a very lively, intelligent and insightful manner. I remember him writing about all the “Greens” who marched with the communists to protest Reagan’s plan to place Theater Nuclear Weapons (Pershing Missiles) in Western Europe.

            This was one of the concrete things that Reagan did to win the Cold War, but those “Greens” and their “Red” Masters wanted none of it: They took their marching orders (literally!) from the KGB and GRU…

          • Earl P. Holt III

            I’m SHOCKED, SHOCKED that the Greens are Red…!

      • Earl P. Holt III

        P.S.: Those organic carbon compounds are absorbed by plant-life…

        • 李冠毅

          Yes, plants absorb carbon dioxide and give out oxygen. But what I’ve been taught is that we are burning so much fossil fuels and putting out so much carbon dioxide that the plants couldn’t cope, and the excess carbon dioxide causes warming. Is this true?

      • Weisheit77

        It’s not so much that I don’t believe it, it’s just I think it is the new argument for an omnipotent government, a one-world government. I also have zero faith in the government’s ability to fix the problem.
        I think the Algore level pushers of this non-sense know it, too.

        The percentage of change that is due to man versus natural causes that is for scientists to debate and something I’m not overly concerned about.

      • BlueSonicStreak

        Several years ago, I poured over the arguments from both sides, and came to the conclusion that the climate change denialists are wrong – we ARE in trouble. Unfortunately, that was two hard drives ago, so I lost much of my research. I have been thinking lately after seeing all the denialist comments here that I would dig it all up again; but I’m not sure getting into it is worth it, plus that’s off-topic.

        What is clear here is that both sides are very focused on the money to be had in either pushing the idea or denying it, which I find stupid. If the denialists are WRONG, and we do nothing, we potentially lose our planet. Deciding where to place your bets here should be very easy.

        • Weisheit77

          I like George Carlin. Who are we to think we can save the planet? We came from nothing and will go back to nothing. The planet will still be here for another 4 to 5 billion years before being consumed by a dying and rapidly expanding sun. Save the planet… “save the whales, save the snails…”

          Do you really think the government is going to do a damn thing? So far their strategy is to move every poor person they can find to a first world nation thus drastically increasing their carbon foot print. Governments are also responsible for the planet’s population boom. I have a hard time conceiving of the current and growing African demographic nightmare that is coming down the pike if it wasn’t for western governments, the same ones who always bleat about “global warming”. So I see a two prong strategy. 1) Invite as many as we can from the third to live in the first world (when we should circling the wagons) 2) grow the population of the third world to levels unseen or unimagined.

          I would rather see both polar ice caps melt before I agreed upon a one world government ran by the Algores, GWBs, and Obamas of the world taking bribes from the Adelsons and Soroses of the world.

          Besides… Isn’t California leftist, greeny heaven? Tell me, in the midst of this drought, have they even put up one sign that says, “No more Mexicans or anyone else please, we’re having a drought”?

          • BlueSonicStreak

            Well yes, the planet itself will surely spin on. Just because it’s HERE though, doesn’t mean we can live on it.

            If you’re that fatalistic, why bother being a white nationalist? As it is our basic nature to develop technology, eventually we would find ways to travel great distances, meet up and start race-mixing, whether or not the concept of “nations” and “immigration” existed. Why fight this politically? Let what will be, be. Western civilization collapses? Meh. Maybe we’d all be more at peace as hunter-gatherers anyway.

            But yes, what you say about increasing the carbon footprint of more of the world is completely true. The conflict seems to escape almost everyone somehow.

  • Cid Campeador

    IS there no end to this madness.? Soon they’ll be telling us that White obstetricians are performing Josef Mengele style brain dwarfing experiments on fetuses or perhaps a fetus is capable of suffering from Institutional Racism.
    Apparently prenatal alcohol and narcotic consumption instead of good nutrition has absolutely NO impact on fetal development.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    People are not stupid because they are poor, they are poor because they are stupid.

    • Cid Campeador

      Don’t forget to include lazy and “entitled”. The public schools bend over backwards to try to elevate them and generally fail a major percent of the time.

      • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

        Those also fall under the stupid umbrella.

  • This is an exact quote from the book, The Nature of Prejudice, which was one of the forerunners of this racial equality myth (The book was published in the 1950’s):

    “If brain size was any indicator of intelligence, several races would exceed the white man. Among them the Japanese and the Neanderthal Man.”

    BUSTED! Since then we have discovered that those Japanese were a heck of a lot smarter than we of the post World War Two generation were led to believe, and that the Neanderthals were not as primitive as we thought. Yep, funny how this book isn’t brought up anymore by leftists.

    • Weisheit77

      Wow, thank you for that.

      I’ve been reading a lot about the revolution in Haiti, and I’m amazed at how much of this radical equality stuff has been going on for centuries.

      I read a quote from a French Girondist who ridiculed one of the Jacobite clubs in Haiti which consisted of poor whites as being “Aristocrats of the skin”.
      Where have I heard that one before?

  • LiberalismFailed

    I’ve always wondered how many of these studies have been conducted but the findings indefinitely “embargoed” or scrapped in the middle of the project because the findings would go against the racial equality Orthodoxy.

  • Alden

    I’ve read the statistics that Hispanics have the lowest infant mortality rates
    Many reasons have been given Personally I think it is genetics Our Hispanics are poor people who had tough lives They were the slaves of the Aztecs and Mayans, the peons of the Spanish and Metizos and those who survived are tough
    The study blamed black bad behavior in poverty But equally poor Hispanic kids behave very well, just ask any head start teacher day care or pediatric clinic worker

  • LexiconD1

    Yes, I do. Better parenting may not make them genius, improve their neighborhoods, or set them up for life. But it certain will improve SOME of the behaviors. The past has proven they understand right from wrong. Like the consequences of being caught behind the lines of a sundown town, for example.

    • Alden

      Or attended one of those segregated black schools whose teachers paddled anyone who got the slightest bit out of line

  • Alden

    Applicant screening tests were abolished by the EEOC and the federal courts between 1968 and 1973

  • Alden

    Two words explain their success White privilege

  • SolStans

    I’m calling bullpucky. I was born on crack and grew up poor as dirt. My parents died young, so I was raised by my grandmother and grandfather, who had a 10th grade and a 6th grade education between them. My score on the WAIS-III: 144.

    I’d love these harpies to explain my scenario. My guess is they’d never admit that genes will out.

  • HJ11

    False cause.

  • JohnEngelman

    If they to more research they find that blacks adopted by affluent white couples still tend to have smaller brains than whites.

  • JohnEngelman

    The races differ in brain size and on IQ tests. On average Orientals have the largest brains and highest IQs. Blacks average the lowest, and Whites fall in between. The brain size differences explain the IQ differences both within groups and between groups.

    – Professor J. Philippe Rushton, from Race, Evolution, and Behavior

  • InAFreeCountry

    You gotta love Sowell. He is the exception that proves the rule, and not afraid of telling the harsh truth.

  • Sam

    This is why dinosaurs had such small brains. They were dirt poor, and in fact money hadn’t yet been invented.

    • 李冠毅

      Not all dinosaurs have small brains. Some dinosaurs, such as Trooden, have really large brains.

  • BlueSonicStreak

    Sez Wikipedia:

    In the contemporary cultural meaning, the phrase “Western world” includes Europe, as well as many countries of European colonial origin with substantial European ancestral populations in the Americas and Oceania.

  • BlueSonicStreak

    You guys really can’t detect sarcasm when you see it, can you?

  • BlueSonicStreak

    I was considering saying this, as well as pointing out that inbreeding is actually safe from first cousins on outward.

    Repeated pairings of half-siblings in a population could be a problem if they continued to pass on their genes; but lots of inbreeding tends to confer fertility problems…something black America most certainly doesn’t appear to have ANY problems with.

    • 李冠毅

      Please read the articles I’ve posted in my earlier comment. Inbreeding between full-siblings does have a somewhat higher chance of producing defective offspring, but the risks are minimal. The common perception of the “two-headed/retarded/some other weird deformity” inbred is NOT true. Also, if done with the proper controls, inbreeding will actually result in a HEALTHIER gene pool in the long run.

      • BlueSonicStreak

        No, please note my emphasis on repeated. Two full-blood siblings inbreeding in one generation is one thing. If you have full-blood siblings inbreeding generation after generation, however, that’s something entirely different. Severe mutations can arise from that. (To see an example, search YouTube for “People with Ostrich Feet.”)

        I’m not sure what HALF-siblings inbreeding over several generations might do…but as I suggested, I’m not convinced by the idea, as I think black Americans show no real signs of it (like fertility problems), and they probably still have enough outbreeding going on as well.

        • 李冠毅

          There seems to be some misconception here about inbreeding. Yes, repeated inbreeding with full-siblings over several generations will produce some defective offspring. But if those defective offspring are prevented from breeding, while the healthy inbreds continue to inbreed, then after a few generations, the gene pool will be purged of most of the defective genes that make inbreeding harmful in the first place.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            But that depends on preventing the defective offspring from breeding. Plenty of people here would point out that American blacks seem quite willing to have sex with someone that almost any other person of any other race would reject.

            Admittedly, don’t know why I’m arguing this. Like I said, I don’t buy the idea that it’s happening often enough in the black community for incest to be having a dysgenic effect.

            I would point out that I don’t think there’s ANY eugenic effect (as mentioned in your articles) from inbreeding, either. Definitely no eugenics in the American black community.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            Apologies for autocorrect errors. I swear, Apple autocorrect is the single worst in the world.

          • Kindred spirit; Android’s is just as annoying.

            I hate it when technology tries to be smarter than I am.

            Singularity? Take your (expletives deleted) singularity and stick it (expletives deleted).

          • BlueSonicStreak

            Can Android at least handle contractions?

            I could deal with the rest of Apple’s autocorrect, but I’m driven absolutely batty by the fact that it tries to fix things like “that’s not” to, inexplicably, “that snot.” What the…?!

            I should turn it off, but I’m admittedly too lazy to forfeit the automatic capitalization fixes.

          • Sometimes yes, sometimes no. But I turn autocorrect off.