Lord Michael Bates Says There Is a ‘Need to Reduce Immigration’

James Slack, Daily Mail, March 17, 2015

Too many babies are being born to immigrant mothers in the UK, a Government minister said last night.

In controversial remarks, Lord Bates said that a quarter of children born in the UK each year now had a mother who was herself from overseas.

He added: ‘That is why we need to reduce immigration’.

In 2001, prior to Labour presiding over a decade of wide-scale immigration, only 16 per cent of UK births were to foreign mothers.

Home Office Minister Lord Bates reeled off a series of statistics to demonstrate the significant impact mass immigration is having.

They included the fact that, at the end of December 2013, there were an estimated 7.8million people born overseas living in the UK.

It is understood to be the first time a Government minister has directly suggested a need to reduce the number of babies being born to immigrants.

However, ministers and campaign groups have in the past stressed the pressure which is being put on maternity services and schools.

Lord Bates, who was previously MP for Langbaurgh in the north east, was responding to a House of Lords question from Migrationwatch chairman Lord Green of Deddington.

In lively exchanges, Lord Green said that–based on current levels of net migration–Britain would have to build a new city the size of Birmingham every two years to cope.

Currently, there are 300,000 more people arriving in the UK every year than leaving–demolishing David Cameron’s pledge to cut the figure to the ‘tens of thousands’.

Lord Bates said: ‘We are absolutely at one on needing a firm but fair immigration policy to protect the public services of this country and provide opportunities for those who want to come here to work.’

However, he was criticised by members of the Labour and Liberal Democrat benches for his comments.

Labour’s Lord Soley said the children of migrants ‘have made an immensely valuable contribution to the United Kingdom’. He added: ‘We ought to be proud of that and say so.

Baroness Hussein-Ece, a Lib Dem, said political leaders ‘need to make a case for the positive impact that immigration has had on this country’.

She added: ‘The care system would collapse without immigrant labour. Does the Minister think that the constant negative narrative of immigration, without the positive, is detrimental to British society–a society that has always been one of tolerance which values and upholds democracy in building better institutions? Do the Government not really need to take the lead on this?’

There has been controversy over the most accurate way of measuring the impact immigration is having on the size of the UK population.

Last year, a report by Migrationwatch said immigration could be responsible for as much as 84 per cent of the surge in Britain’s population this century.

The study claimed the true impact of immigration has been ‘substantially understated’ because the Office for National Statistics did not count 1.3million children born to foreign parents as part of the impact of immigration on population growth.

It concluded that of the 4.6million population rise between 2001 and 2012, 3.8million is due to the biggest wave of immigration the country has faced.

Not including children born in the UK meant net migration was recorded at a much lower 2.5million.

In separate exchanges with the Labour benches, Lord Bates defended the Prime Minister’s failure to hit his ‘tens of thousands’ target.

He said: ‘It could well be that when the Prime Minister was making those remarks we were in the depths of despair as a country in 2010.

‘Since then we have had a jobs miracle. We have created more jobs than the rest of Europe put together.

‘As a result of that, not surprisingly, people want to come and find work.’

Lord Bates, an Oxford graduate, was made a Deputy Speaker of the Lords in 2013.

He served as a Government whip before being appointed to the Home Office last year. He speaks for the Government in the Upper Chamber on all matters dealt with by Theresa May’s department.

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  • Susannah

    Only in a White nation is it “controversial” for someone to suggest that 1/4 of births being to foreign women just might be less than desirable. Especially when your people are predicted to dwindle to minority status in the foreseeable future.

  • LHathaway

    “a quarter of births in UK are to foreign mothers”.

    That should match the number of White British mother’s giving birth to children who’s father’s are not White. Have to get the ‘White birth rate’ above 1.7, somehow.

  • superlloyd

    ”Baroness Hussein-Ece, a Lib Dem, said political leaders ‘need to make a case for the positive impact that immigration has had on this country’.”

    There isn’t one and you should be first back on the banana boat.

    • David Ashton

      We have heard little else from political “leaders” for over 50 years, as one constituency after another has been occupied by immigrants. Only recently the TV ran an attack on Peter Griffiths MP who resisted the official trend, arguing that his case against immigration led to violence, i.e. a bomb attack on his own home! Tony Blair has just defended his (surreptitious) open-the-gates policy while PM. Tory “Big Beast” Michael Heseltine has reappeared to tell us, as he told us decades ago, that it was only “prejudice” that prevented our enjoyment of all the new cultural communities in what was the English homeland – Farage reminded him of Powell, he said (if only), with not the slightest admission or possibly even awareness of the problems of culture-clash which arise from familiarity not “prejudice”. There is more to society than a few extra Chinese restaurants and cheap Latin American nannies.

  • Steve_in_Vermont

    As an old saying does, “This ship has sailed” or “That train left the station some time ago”.

    • Jason Lewis

      They can fix it but it’ll make em look like Nazis.

      • LHathaway

        Or they will be out to be like Nazis.

      • IstvanIN

        Correcting the mistakes of the last 70 years will take an iron will and an iron stomach. It will not and can not be pretty.

        • KenelmDigby

          It just won’t happen.

          • zanegray

            What we’ll end up with is an English version of the Indian Caste System.

            Everybody being frightfully polite while exercising a rigid and hierarchical social demarcation between the different groups.

  • Jason Lewis

    Reduce? How about stop then reverse?

  • LackawannaErie

    Can anyone imagine a Republican politician saying something like this?

    America is by far the most politically correct Western country. Across Europe, the political and media debates about immigration are much more open and honest than they are here.

  • listenupbub

    “Labour’s Lord Soley said the children of migrants ‘have made an
    immensely valuable contribution to the United Kingdom’. He added: ‘We
    ought to be proud of that and say so.'”

    Besides that looking at brown faces assuages certain crazy people’s white guilt, how are the British people’s lives richer from the immigrants? Anything?

    • John Smith

      More crime?

      • listenupbub

        Ah yes, the exciting and edgy life in the hood. You know how whites cannot stand missing out on that.

        There is a hilarious story about hipsters in Atlanta’s five points area getting robbed and killed, and still believing that they live in an awesome and hip place.

  • FozzieT

    “In controversial remarks, Lord Bates said that a quarter of children born in the UK each year now had a mother who was herself from overseas.

    He added: ‘That is why we need to reduce immigration’.”

    By whose judgment is this at all controversial? When an entire quarter of a country’s children are born from a foreign parent, this should raise serious issues.

    Could anyone imagine, for example, the Japanese accepting a situation where a quarter of their newborn population were from African parents?

  • John Smith

    One of the best things would be to restrict citizenship to anyone whose parents were in the country illegally, as political refugees or those who are residents of the EU but not citizens of Great Britain.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    A Semite by the name of Lady Gavron, stated in 2000 that the royal family is too white and that Prince Charles should have been told to marry a negress to show how multicultural the UK is. I doubt she would lead the way and divorce her husband and marry a negro. Her husband bought the title of Lord by donating a lot of funds to Tony Blair’s campaign and as his reward, he made them Lord and Lady.

    • David Ashton

      The source of the Great Actor’s funds, even before that campaign and continually to date, have produced an entire set of policy returns that sooner or later will produce a blockbuster book, though probably not until one Lord Janner has gone to the Great Synagogue in Sky.

  • KenelmDigby

    So, a quarter of births in the UK are now to foreign born mothers.
    Immigration to the UK has been going on for so long and so massively that, rest assured, at least the same number of births are attributable to 2nd and 3rd generation, or even further, immigrants.
    So, it’s fair to say that *fully half* of all births in today’s UK are non-White. It’s also safe to assume a non-White majority UK by 2045.

  • Light from the East

    Not only that, the next step is to deport criminals, welfare free riders, law breakers, negative net tax payers, unproductive immigrants.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    There is a desperate need for a Constitutional Amendment allowing for DEPORTATION…

  • David Ashton

    Yes, folks, nil desperandum. Don’t leave the race before the last two hurdles.