Blacks in Chicago Far More Likely to Be Subject of “Stop and Frisk,” ACLU Says

NBC Chicago, March 23, 2015

Blacks in Chicago are more likely to be subjected to a “stop and frisk” by police than any other race, a report by the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois indicates.

The report, released Monday, also says officers in the Second City used the controversial technique far more often than did officers in New York City.

The ACLU said Chicago officers last summer conducted more than 250,000 stops of people who weren’t arrested. The ACLU also said that almost three-fourths of those stopped were African American, though they make up about a third of the city’s population.

The report based on police department data found that the practice was employed at a rate that was four times as high as New York “at the height” of officers’ use of the practice there.

{snip}

Topics:

Share This

We welcome comments that add information or perspective, and we encourage polite debate. If you log in with a social media account, your comment should appear immediately. If you prefer to remain anonymous, you may comment as a guest, using a name and an e-mail address of convenience. Your comment will be moderated.
  • Mack0

    DUH! Once blacks stop committing crimes they won’t be stopped and searched more often. Ask the Asians.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Because ending stop-and-frisk worked so well in NY city.

      Just Ask Bratton:

      The NYPD is studying years of data to determine if the decline in stop-and-frisk is having an impact on crime in New York City.

      Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said he didn’t believe there was a link between the drop in stops and an increase in shootings.

      Body count:

      NYC: 59
      Chicago: 53
      Philly: 52

      • Robert Smith

        LOL

      • archer

        Strange how the cities with the strictest gun control laws have the most shootings.

        • George Costanza

          Strange how the cities with the a large population of blacks have the most shootings. 😉

          • propagandaoftruth

            Hey, how’s life in New DiBlackistan these days? Have you been recommended for a rousing Maoist self criticizing session yet? Isn’t that what’s called “diversity training” in newspeak?

          • George Costanza

            The minority occupation government is trying to get legislation passed to let non citizens vote in local elections, it’s an incredible slap in the face for legal law abiding citizens. But NYC isn’t NYS and the NYS Republicans who hold a majority in the state senate put the Kibosh on the Dream Act, however they are powerless when it comes to controlling City Hall. Illegals voting in local elections could spell disaster for some Republican enclaves in NYC, like Staten Island and South Brooklyn. But as a life long native of Brooklyn, gentrification has certainly cleaned up the place, the politicians who are in the pockets of wealthy real estate moguls, don’t want to say it but they want to make NYC a playground for the rich which means more White people and some Asians.

            I suggest you read Seth Barron’s article “Council of Crackpots,

            New York City’s far-left lawmakers are out of touch with reality.”
            Which was published at the City Journal website, Seth also run a blog called “City Council Watch”. Everyone should check it out!!!

      • Cid Campeador

        Go Philly!!! You’re not far behind.

    • Cid Campeador

      EXACTLY. Why do we even have to discuss this situation? Who commits the majority of violent crimes?

      • Earl P. Holt III

        Inter-racial murders used to be uncommon, until forced integration of schools and housing introduced the most violent, predatory and witless species in history to an entirely new crop of victims.

    • Cid Campeador

      The criminal segment of the Black Population will never stop committing violent crimes so long as they are breathing. When they (and all criminals) perpetrate horrific crimes and are convicted, their breathing should be brought to a halt.
      We need farms and factories that make things ( with of course total regard for the environment); not more prisons that warehouse thieves of innocent people’s lives.

    • ElComadreja

      That simple truth is beyond their simple minds.

  • The bombshell here is that Chicago is using SQF. For a long time, city officials explicitly rejected using the tactic.

    The ACLU also said that almost three-fourths of those stopped were African American, though they make up about a third of the city’s population.

    Three-fourths of Chicago murder suspects and murder perpetrators are black.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Two points:
      1. There goes yet another liberal city whose police target blacks more than the cops in Ferguson ever did, while the Justice Dept. yawns.
      2. When the ACLU and the rest of the Civil Rights industry succeed in stopping Chi-town’s totally justified SQF policy the net result will be more dead blacks. And then as usual they’ll blame the NRA and “gun lobby” for the carnage.

  • Hammerheart

    Maybe when a small minority stops committing a disproportionate amount of violent crimes they won’t be subject to this?

  • George Costanza

    “250,000 stops of people who weren’t arrested”

    250,000 who were prevented from committing a crime.

    • They weren’t arrested after the frisk, but you can bet many of them if not most of them have rap sheets.

      • George Costanza

        Yea that’s what I mean, but the statement is misleading because anyone a police officer believes is acting suspiciously is going to be stopped and frisked.

        • Jason Lewis

          and if people think they may be frisked, they won’t carry a illegal firearm.

          • Speedy Steve

            Possibly. But then again, I watch COPS.

          • John Smith

            Yeah, normal “cause and effect” seems to be lost on most all those folks, black or white.

        • Mack0

          Police are going to be more vigilant in a high crime area. Pull a black person over in a high crime area and you are likely to find they have a warrant and that means instant search.

  • superlloyd

    So what? Blacks commit disproportionate amounts of crime so will naturally be stopped more often as suspects or potential criminals. Sounds like the police are doing a responsible job.

    • Alexandra1973

      Really. You have to fish where the fish are biting.

  • RacialRay

    Willie Sutton said he robbed banks “because that’s where the money is”. Police in Chicago stop and frisk blacks most often “because that’s where the crime is”.

    Why is anyone questioning this?

    • phillyguy

      I had an old friend by the name of Willie O’Neal who did jobs with Willie Sutton, my friend willie was 90 years old when he died 25 years ago…as time goes by and all of the old timers pass on the more I miss the old stories of the good old days .

  • Jason Lewis

    Being blacks are by far the largest vicims of black violence are the police not protecting law abiding blacks by doing this?

    • Speedy Steve

      Blacks’ chief virtue is tolerance which means they just complain about black-on-black crime. It could be they just like complaining and not solving problems.

    • ZB01

      That is true and it is logical of course: (Shame on you!) But, according to the liberal narrative, it also “racissss” and suggestive of the highest contumely, ergo, it must be not stated.

    • inotherwords

      You may have been mislead by this whole black lives matter thing. The black lives they’re talking about is thugs who attack other people, not innocent black people who are victims of these same black thugs.

  • Oldcorporal

    Well, let’s see: Blacks make up a hugely disproportionate percentage of our prison population. They commit a hugely disproportionate percentage of our murders. They are the primary perpetrators of the “knock-out game” practiced on city streets. They are the most likely group to do “mass grab” raids on convenient stores. Maybe, just maybe, the police have the right idea, and these judges are nuts. In real life, Your Honors, things that happen to people, and things that people do to other people, don’t automatically line up neatly with each group’s percentage of the U.S. population. Too bad they didn’t teach you “common sense” in law school.

    • Luke Samuelson

      It’s even more alarming that it wasn’t a prerequisite for admittance.

    • Alden

      Don’t blame the blacks. Blame the judges who have spent the last 100 years overturning the criminal justice system so as to unleash the black hordes on Whites

  • Rurik

    In Chi Town, the Blacks are more frisky.

  • Speedy Steve

    The ACLU once headed up by Roger Nash Baldwin, fellow-traveler of Communist Emma Goldman. Need I continue?

    • John Ambrose

      People used to joke that ACLU stands for American Communist Lawyers Union.

      • Alexandra1973

        More like Anti-American Communist Lawyers Union now.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    If the ACLU really cared about black lives, it would spend more time, money and effort on stepping up gun control laws in Chicago.

    3/16/2015:

    5 killed 24 wounded in weekend gun violence.

    March 16, 2015

    (CHICAGO) Five people were killed and at least 24 other people–including a 12-year-old boy–were wounded in shootings across Chicago over St. Patrick’s Day weekend.

    Thug Report 2015 Body Count as of 3/20/2015:

    L.A.: 44
    Chicago: 53
    NYC: 59
    Baltimore: 42
    Philly: 52
    NOLA: 37
    Houston: 23

    I’m sure NYC’s body count would be much higher if stop-and- frisk hadn’t been stopped.

    • Reynardine

      Every city passed the Columbine/Aurora/Sandy Hook mark.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        And it’s only March.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Trouble is, it wasn’t guns killing people, it was savages killing people (and other savages). Gun control treats the symptom, not the root cause.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        The blue Kool-Aid drinkers in CT made sure not to waste the Sandy Hook crisis. Adam Lanza didn’t even use the AR-15 “lawmakers” just banned. He used a handgun. The AR was too difficult to conceal. But, facts never get in the way of a Libtard.

        • Reynardine

          Do you have a source for that? I remember police talking about finding mostly spent rifle cartridges at Sandy Hook.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            The owner of a gun shop told me of the handgun. I remember Police reports saying that an AK-47 variant was found in the car, but was not used. Presumably because of the difficulty of concealment.

            Ironically, Adam Lanza’s mother was a Libturdian jackazzz feminist who abused the kid. I know a Sandy Hook mother who says all the Sandy Hook mothers put the blame on Nancy Lanza, that sadistic, narcissistic jackazzz mother. The father tried getting custody of Adam to put him in better programs, but that would have shut off Nancy’s alimony.

            AR-15s had to be registered in the state of CT as of 1/1/2014. There are an estimated 350,000 AR-15s that are believed to not have been registered out of defiance. Those can all be “legally” seized now–and the owners charged with a felony. No new/additional AR-15s are allowed in–i.e. they are banned.

    • ElComadreja

      They’re such lousy shots. Those body counts should be a lot higher.

  • SentryattheGate

    Police often can’t see the race of the driver until he walks up to the window. And blacks, I read recently, have 50% more traffic fatalities per capita than whites, so DUH, their driving is probably worse! I definitely see that in the black part of town which I have to drive through.

    • Weisheit77

      That’s actually the racist car makers putting remote controlled devices that take over the control of the car and they secretly give them out to a representative of the KKK in every town in America. Anytime it looks like blacks are safer drivers, old racist white men from the KKK starting causing accidents. I’ve read it was based on an old racist technology that the US bombers used to stop the Tuskegee airmen from becoming the true aerial champions of WWII.

    • John Smith

      And some idiots were wondering why negroes got pulled over so often in Fergustan. It’s well-known that negroes drive very badly, so between the accoutrements hanging off the vehicle and the driver’s abilities, I guarantee you cops can probably pick a negro driver out 9 of every 10 times.

      • Robert Smith

        You don’t see many whites in Ferguson. Just because they own homes there it doesn’t mean it’s fit for them to shop and spend their leisure time there.

        • Reverend Bacon

          …or drive. An excellent point, which argues that the population of drivers skews dark relative to the population overall.

          • Robert Smith

            There are many elderly too poor to move that also only leave the house to get groceries(early am) and go to the doctor.

    • Alden

      There have been numerous studies proving that when blacks are ticketed for speeding the are more than 20 miles over the speed limit than whites who are stopped for speeding

      • SentryattheGate

        Of course, the biased press never mention those studies (more speeding, 50% more fatalities, etc.) nor the bad driving that gets them pulled over in the first place, before the cop sees the race! The press adds fuel to the fire by omitting this information!

  • slobotnavich

    Boy, this one’s a real shocker! I mean, blacks commit the vast majority of crime in this nation, and the overwhelming majority of violent crime, are wildly over-represented among prison populations, and yet the police, for some inexplicable reason, stop them more often than the population at large! This calls for lengthy and comprehensive congressional hearings in the endless search for the “root causes” of black crime. And it’s hardly just an American phenomenon – everywhere in the world where are large concentrations of blacks there are high crime rates. No doubt of it, whites and northeast Asians are just no good racist SOBs.

  • Caucasoid88

    Is this like Mexicans stopping white people to get them to bribe them?

    • I’ve been to the Mexican beach resort of Ixtapa, and nobody in my family will ever go back. Their corrupt cops are killing Mexico’s tourism industry.

      • ElComadreja

        I wouldn’t set foot anywhere in that God forsaken hell hole.

        • That was 1980. If we take a “sun, sand & surf” vacation someday, I’m voting for the Azores.

  • Reverend Bacon

    Another vapid liberal group making pronouncements without understanding statistics. The obvious questions to ask include: what was the population in the area(s) where the stopping(s) was (were) done? How was that area selected? Were stoppings at random or was there some reason for stopping those stopped (not necessarily rising to the level of “Probable Cause”)? What percent of criminals are black in those areas?

    If anyone, and I mean anyone, publishes a study that says something, and I mean anything, they don’t like, the scientific method of the study goes under the microscope. An example is the NJTP speeder study done by the Public Service Research Institute in Maryland. While earlier, less scientific studies that showed racism were embraced by the anti-racists, this one was nitpicked almost to death. But it survived, and showed that blacks speed twice as much as whites, which takes the wind out of the blowhards claiming racism in traffic stops.

    In statistics, the hurdle to reject a status quo hypothesis is usually higher than the hurdle to show that some other assumption does a better job of explaining observations. For example, if I toss a coin 100 times and get 60 heads, that’s not sufficient to reject the conjecture that the probability of tossing a heads with that coin is 50%. Using that logic, it should be harder to reject the hypothesis that police have no racial bias to their stoppings. So the scrutiny should be very great on those who wish to show racism. But they’ve inverted that: it’s guilty until proven innocent.

  • TruthBeTold

    Wikipedia:

    with Chicago’s Democratic vote the state of Illinois has been “solid blue” in presidential elections since 1992. Even before then, it was not unheard of for Republican presidential candidates to win handily in downstate Illinois, only to lose statewide due to large Democratic margins in Chicago.

    Nuff said.

    • John Smith

      It ruins the state, which is fairly conservative otherwise. Anyone going through S. IL should definitely drive through Cairo (and the Cache River State Natural Area, IL Garden of the Gods and Cave-in-Rock), but only in daylight (I’ve done it twice at night trying to get to I-24 from I-55). It is an excellent, but somewhat safer example of how negroes bring desolation like locusts – it’s almost laughable that the only businesses open on Main St. are cell phones, liquor and bail bonds.

  • disqus_irCdmAu8It

    The statistics are all very interesting, but, it is the facts that matter. Most crime in Chicago is committed by “Unaremd Teens.” In other words, BLACKS> Blacks commit crimes out of their inherent talents and abilities. It is NOT white cops whole profile Blacks into commiting crimes.

  • bilderbuster

    They need to be stopped and searched every chance the cops get.

    • John Smith

      Many need shooting as well.

  • A Freespeechzone

    Look at the shootings that occur on an ongoing basis in Chicago….it’s certainly NOT Whites shooting up the ‘hood….

    Fact is, liberals, Obama, ACLU and media want negroes to have the ‘right’ to do anything they want—including unprovoked violence, looting, and murder without ANY accountability.

    God Help the victim who invokes self-defense to fend off one of these violent animals….

    • Weisheit77

      I think that is where this thought process that a certain minority has a right to “keep it real” if his ancestry is impugned. It’s slowly getting worked into the public’s mind that the “n-word” is a just provocation to murder, or that the very least serious bodily harm.
      The fact that blacks use it so often only confirms to me that it is already established legal thought in the hood.

  • Weisheit77

    Victims in Chicago are more likely to be shot by blacks more than any other race…

    • Since the leading cause of death for young black males in the USA is murder, one would think the NAACP would completely approve of police stopping and frisking them.

  • Weisheit77

    Disparate Impact: The belief that Sub-Saharan 18 year old males are as inherently violent as 18 year old East Asian females and it is only the white male patriarchy distorting the truth by exacerbating African male violence while hiding East Asian female violence.

    This is why I’m not a universalist in politics or religion. Do I wish to live in a community where I can be searched at any time? NO! (I’ve lived in Germany, they can do it there; it is unnerving as an American). With that being said, it seems that blacks are incapable of living with a political system invented in England and influenced by western Europeans. I’m sure Western Europeans would have trouble thriving in a political system from south of the Sahara! It seems to me that we need to stop insisting on universal political solutions and see the dominant political climate as something that stems from culture and that stems from race/national origin.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Look what happened to that loveable Koooook-ah-rotch-ah yesterday in Chick-cog-go.

    http[colon]//www[dot]thegatewaypundit[dot]com/2015/03/il-pro-amnesty-lawmaker-shouted-off-stage-by-american-patriots-at-usc/
    .

    • John Smith

      Should been pulled off the stage and taken to a tree.

  • John Smith

    Could it be they commit 90% of the crimes?

  • inotherwords

    One of the things I’ve noticed about Chicago, is that a lot of black people hang out on the streets. If you’re walking from your car to your job, the chance of being frisked is very small. The chance of being frisked in your home, or at the store, or at a movie is also very small. The chance of being frisked when you hang out on the sidewalk all day every day is pretty large.

    • Alden

      That’s true. You almost never see Whites hanging out in the street. They are always going somewhere, usually between home and work
      I live near a Main Street that has bus benches every few blocks. All day long black men sit on the benches blathering away.
      They don’t actually live in the neighborhood Most are on their way to and from their court appointed drug counseling and anger management classes at the nearby VA.
      But they will sit there for hours while bus after bus goes by

  • Light from the East

    Let’s do the calculation:

    According to several crime report based on race, Black’s crime rate is about 8 times of that of white. Crime rate of other races are included as well. We can have a crime factor by race:

    Asian: 0.25
    White: 1
    Pacific Islander: 2.8
    Indian: 2.8
    Hispanic: 3
    Black: 8

    Demographics of Chicago: 2,718,782 (2013)
    45.0% White (31.7% non-Hispanic whites);
    32.9% Black or African American;
    13.4% from some other race;
    5.5% Asian (1.6% Chinese, 1.1% Indian, 1.1% Filipino, 0.4% Korean, 0.3% Pakistani, 0.3% Vietnamese, 0.2% Japanese, 0.1% Thai);
    2.7% from two or more races;
    0.5% American Indian.

    Weighting with crime rate, we have the percentage of the makeup of criminals:
    12.5% White (31.7% of them are non-Hispanic whites);
    73.3% Black or African American;
    11.2% from some other race;
    0.4% Asian;
    2.3% from two or more races;
    0.4% American Indian.

    So the answer is clear, Chicago officers are doing their jobs right. 73.3% perfectly matches the number of three-fourths of total stops. Anyone should use his/her own intelligence to show the real makeup of crime prone people, debunking lies from those libertards.

  • rentslave

    This is just good police work,as they know with whom they’re dealing.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    One-third of the population, three-fourths of those stopped by police, and perpetrators of 90% of the city’s violent felonies. (Sounds about right…)

  • Oh, this is so awful. Just stopping and frisking people because their skin color is different…
    Okay, now, back to reality. Yeah, it couldn’t possibly be due to the ASTRONOMICALLY higher rates of crime among blacks, now could it?

    • newscomments70

      “Yeah, it couldn’t possibly be due to the ASTRONOMICALLY higher rates of crime among blacks, now could it?” I’m sure if the original publisher doesn’t censor the majority of comments, that’s how most people will react. Liberals will always push agendas on us that ignore obvious truths. I am consantly reminded of the communist propaganda in the Orwell novel, “1984”. If they keep repeating, 1+1 = 3, you will eventually believe this is true. It’s too bad that liberals don’t control the media anymore.

  • Reverend Bacon

    That used to happen to me all the time. I had to drive through a bad neighborhood to get to my house, and they pulled me over 4 times in 2 years. Not for speeding, just for lowering the average. I once suggested that to the sheriff who stopped me, and he smiled and said, “no comment, you have a nice day, sir.”

  • ElComadreja

    No probably about it.

  • Canadian Friend

    Saying ; ” …Blacks are a third of the population, but three-fourths of those stopped. … ”
    is similar to saying; ” Firemen are only a small percentage of the population but are found on sites of fires more than any other group”

    My point being that there is a logical – mathematical – explanation for it and that there is no injustice of racism.

    If blacks were not committing the vast majority of crimes, they would not get stopped and frisked.

    If they don’t like being stopped and frisked more than other groups then they should clean up their act, not blame the police for trying to protect us from dangerous criminals.

    • Sexism in Ferguson police department: more men than women arrested!

      human-stupidity com/equality4/sexism-in-ferguson-police-department-more-men-than-women-arrested

  • Backwoodsman

    Makes sense to me! They commit the preponderance of crimes and dispite efforts by the federal government to cover it up, any rational, thinking person realized it a long time ago.