Southern California Edison IT Workers ‘Beyond Furious’ over H-1B Replacements

Patrick Thibodeau, Computer World, February 4, 2015

Information technology workers at Southern California Edison (SCE) are being laid off and replaced by workers from India. Some employees are training their H-1B visa holding replacements, and many have already lost their jobs.

The employees are upset and say they can’t understand how H-1B guest workers can be used to replace them.

The IT organization’s “transition effort” is expected to result in about 400 layoffs, with “another 100 or so employees leaving voluntarily,” SCE said in a statement. The “transition,” which began in August, will be completed by the end of March, the company said.

“They are bringing in people with a couple of years’ experience to replace us and then we have to train them,” said one longtime IT worker. “It’s demoralizing and in a way I kind of felt betrayed by the company.”

SCE, Southern California’s largest utility, has confirmed the layoffs and the hiring of Infosys, based in Bangalore, and Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) in Mumbai. They are two of the largest users of H-1B visas.

The utility has a large IT department. In 2012, before any layoffs, it had about 1,800 employees, plus an additional 1,500 contract workers.

Computerworld interviewed, separately, four affected SCE IT employees. They agreed to talk on the condition that their names not be used.

The IT employees at SCE are “beyond furious,” said a second IT worker.

The H-1B program “was supposed to be for projects and jobs that American workers could not fill,” this worker said. “But we’re doing our job. It’s not like they are bringing in these guys for new positions that nobody can fill.

“Not one of these jobs being filled by India was a job that an Edison employee wasn’t already performing,” he said.


SCE employees said that since August, when the layoffs began, the composition of the IT workplace began to change. “I see a lot of Indian people walking the halls, and less Americans,” said a third IT worker interviewed.

Employee observations of an increasing number of foreign workers in their workplace is backed up by U.S. Labor Department filings. Employers have to file wage data of foreign workers and their workplace location with federal authorities in a form called a Labor Condition Application (LCA). In Irwindale, California, where SCE runs a major part of its IT operations, the two offshore companies had as many as 180 LCAs, and in a random check of these applications, every address matched an SCE location.

Displaced IT workers have long protested and complained about the use of H-1B workers, but they are overshadowed by large tech companies that lead H-1B lobbying efforts in Washington. IT workers are also effectively silenced through severance agreements that include non-disparagement clauses and confidentiality provisions, as well as fears that public complaining may hurt re-employment prospects.



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  • james AZ

    CEO of Gallup are right ……OBAMA screw American jobs up 5.6 is BIG LIE…..”

    • The goal of official unemployment statistics bureaucrats today is finding new and clever and ever more creative ways to factor people looking for work out of the workforce, to keep the unemployment rate “low,” to satisfy their hopeychange boss.

      • Oil Can Harry

        Facebook COO and militant feminist Sheryl Sandberg has lobbied Congress to increase H-1B visas.

        She wants American tech workers to LEAN IN to the unemployment line.

        • Jake Frizzell

          Yep. More ‘amish’ hijinks. Hitler was right.

          • benvad

            Then the “Amish” wonder why they get huddled together and culled. Maybe we should our IT unemployed over the State of Amish so that they have jobs?

  • Information technology workers at Southern California Edison (SCE) are being laid off and replaced by workers from India. Some employees are training their H-1B visa holding replacements, and many have already lost their jobs. The employees are upset and say they can’t understand how H-1B guest workers can be used to replace them.

    Because they can!

    “They are bringing in people with a couple of years’ experience to replace us and then we have to train them,” said one longtime IT worker. “It’s demoralizing and in a way I kind of felt betrayed by the company.”

    Yes, the company is bad enough. But you should feel more betrayed by your elected officials. You should ask your politicians and prospective politicians questions about this matter, and research their policy positions. Even some of the supposedly better politicians on immigration are shockingly “generous” about H-xB and J-x and other forms of legal immigration. Yes, Ted Cruz, I’m looking at you.

    The H-1B program “was supposed to be for projects and jobs that American workers could not fill,” this worker said.

    That’s the propaganda of the open borders lobby. The reality is that the real purpose of H-1B was to keep the salary scale of highly educated professionals down.

    “Not one of these jobs being filled by India was a job that an Edison employee wasn’t already performing,” he said.

    But the Indian will do it for much cheaper.

    SCE said Infosys and Tata were selected through a competitive process that began “with eight potential vendors, some of them United States-based.

    Even some of these “United States-based” vendors are full of H-1B visa holding Asians. They are nothing more than Indian bodyshops that happen to be based in Amurrika.

    Displaced IT workers have long protested and complained about the use of H-1B workers, but they are overshadowed by large tech companies that lead H-1B lobbying efforts in Washington.

    The displaced (real) American CSIT-STEM workers speak truth to power. The large tech companies are the powers that create their own truth.

    Replacing U.S. workers with H-1B workers violates the spirit if not the letter of the law.

    And that is correct. But don’t look for the law to save the day when the U.S. Attorneys work for a U.S. Attorney General who in turn works for a President whose Presidential campaign got a lot of money from PACs linked to legal immigrant gluttonous industries. Don’t look for that to get better with the next President, unless he’s named Sessions or maybe Santorum.

    The use of H-1B workers has other implications as well. They are mostly young, under 35 years of age, according to government data, and the SCE workers interviewed said many older workers were being laid off. H-1B workers are also overwhelmingly male. The IEEE has estimated that as many as 85% are males.

    That has been Norm Matloff’s point all along. Young Asian/Indian men, cheap, no families, little health care expenses. Once they get 35, and their own health care expenses increase and they may be starting in on families, out they go for a fresh new crop of 22-year old Asians/Indians.

    Some of the SCE employees say the outsourcing move is linked to a 2012 report that found fault with the IT management culture. The report, by a consulting firm’s incident management team, followed a December 2011 shooting, where an employee fatally shot two IT managers and wounded two other workers before taking his own life. The gunman worked in the IT department.

    The consultants interviewed IT workers who told them that some managers were “autocratic, authoritarian and draconian in their approach.” Full-time employees complained of working excessive hours, including weekends and holidays. The report said that “these difficult and exhausting conditions are reportedly having adverse consequences on employees health, including increased stress and irritability.”

    The root cause of all that is the existence of H-1B in the first place, not some off-kilter managerial culture.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Outstanding summary. It began decades ago with US companies replacing native blue collar workers with cheaper immigrant / illegal alien labor and now they’re doing it with native-born white collar types.
      Isn’t the pro-immigration Democratic Party supposed to be against “corporate greed”? Oh yeah, that was just part of their stand up act….

      • WR_the_realist

        The Democrats are just as much in bed with corporate greed as the Republicans.

    • RationaliseThis

      The “unions” were intended to protect working class interests. They’ve been cooped to ethnic interests. “conservatives” have become faux conservatives, certainly not interested in “conserving” Whites in anyway, the neocons worse than the Marxists. Management is also cooped:- anyone that has done a buisiness course or degree would have noticed the universalist ideology that has crept Into it.

      We are living in an anti White totalitarianism in which the anti white ideology infects every institution; buisiness, academia, government, union, school etc. it ranges from an indifferent, amoral “neutrality” to flagrant anti-Whiteism. (Eg the white privlige meme, affirmitive action, the endless references to the superiority of diversity.

      I think he answer will involve our own totalitarianism. We must recapture the high ground.

      • You’ve cross the event horizon into the DE too, I see?

        The main rhetorical power with “unions” today is that the mental imagery that most people get is decades out of date. They think of a middle aged white man working for a corporation and in manufacturing and heavy industry, and they think the union is necessary to defend the workers against a cigar-munching fat cat CEO who is on the 115th floor of corporate tower half the time and on his private jet on his way to a golfing weekend in the Bahamas the other half of the time.

        Today, “union” largely means Shaniqua the affirmative action public sector bureaucrat upset the evil racist YT cracker taxpayer won’t give her the run of his wallet.

  • MekongDelta69

    This is the identical story which has been going on since 2001.

    Trust me…

  • Chip Carver

    This is not the first time this has happened. It won’t be the last – for a while anyway. I’ve seen it myself at a major Hollywood studio. The Indians were literally buffoons. For instance, the studio had to conduct classes in C++ after hours for a large percentage of the sub-continental interlopers. They were learning something that according to their CV’s they should have learned years earlier, when they started out. This mirrors Indians in medicine today, as the majority of them are sub-par in terms of skills yet the media portrays all of them as vibrant, brilliant, cutting edge doctors. They are the opposite. The people behind massive immigration in the West make sure they never go to Indian doctors. But they want you to see Dr. Patel. And they want you whites in IT to lose your job to Dr. Patel’s flea bitten cousins.


    • Bill Brady

      The average IQ of Indians is 83 – LOWER than American blacks.

      Certainly the top .001% are smart, but the more Indians that come over the more obvious it will be that they are mostly idiots.

      • Anglo

        A country that worships holy cows walking around and is as filthy and backward as India has to have a lot of stupid people.

        • IstvanIN

          poop in the streets, bathe in rivers next to floating dead bodies, nice place.

      • Oil Can Harry

        To be fair, the average IQ in India and Pakistan is certainly higher than that of blacks.

        There doesn’t appear to be much data but I’d be surprised if their IQ was that low.

        • RationaliseThis

          India has quite a pigmentocracy, “castism” separates cognitive and racial groups.

      • Germanic Depressive

        And guess whose DNA is in the smartest Indians? Our adventurous ancestors who went into India and set up shop.

      • listenupbub

        Wow, I just looked that up at my source and found pretty much the same: 84.

        However, sub-saharan Africans are sitting pretty at 67.

        I have a feeling that extreme poverty has something to do with the IQ’s of the Indians. They are still a race that has actually accomplished a little bit in the past. Africans, on the other hand…

  • TomIron361

    If this happened to me, They’d be looking for a more applicable word than furious to describe my reaction.

    • evilsandmich

      This infuriates me such a degree that I am unable to verbalize my rage. When I complained to my Repug congressmen about immigration in general he wrote me back saying that although he had issues with the current system, he did like H1-Bs. I wrote him back to see why he felt that I made too much money but I never got a response.

      Every time I see some hack advocating this I ask what field they work in since they obviously need more immigrant workers for them to compete with.

      • Sick of it

        Most of the people advocating this DON’T WORK FOR A LIVING! Think about it. Trust fund babies. Government workers. Politicians.

  • Luca

    And major labor union and IT union leaders immediately sprang into action and booked a 21-day cruise to Hawaii to hold a 2-hour strategy meeting on board the cruise ship.

    Unfortunately, their strategy will consist of how to unionize the new H1b visa employees.

  • Korean guy

    Canada also sees its large corporations replacing existing workers with cheaper H1B visa holders

    The most successful and historical bank in Canada is the Royal Bank of Canada. It replaced some of its workers who were doing their jobs just fine, and one day, a group of H1B visa holders came into their office and the existing workers were expected to train them and were notified that those H1B visa workers they were training, will be replacing them. ( Which means, the existing workers were doing their jobs just fine )

    Many Canadians did quickely become aware of this, and of course, furious.

    rbc DOT com/openletter

    • Robert Smith

      Is there estrogen in our drinking water? Why the heck are we so passive about these things?

      • connorhus

        I don’t know about the drinking water but the Feminist school systems have been emasculating our young men for years preparing for their one world Multi-Cult love fest.

        • Sick of it

          Obviously. Otherwise, one must wonder why these guys stayed at their job to train these foreigners. Might as well leave and screw the company. It’s not like you have a future there.

          • connorhus

            I thought about that then figured they were more than likely interested in being able to put they had been laid off as opposed to fired on their resume. Hope, even slim hope, is a powerful control tool.

          • Robert Smith

            I imagine they were allowed to work an extra couple of months or had a modest severance package tied to the training of the scabs.

        • LHathaway

          You forgot to read the fine print: white men excluded.

        • Robert Smith

          Many of the twenty somethings have an androgynous look about them.

      • WR_the_realist

        Actually, there are many estrogen mimics in our drinking water.

      • Dr.Bazzi

        We are passive because “we ” have become dumbed down through the mind control by the leftist media and corrupt corporations getting “cheaper labor”.
        By taking a persons job away and giving it to foreigners will eventually put a gun in the displaced starving American.

    • Yancy Derringer

      His whole letter boils down to simply “profits above all.”

      • Korean guy

        There are several things I have learned on AmRen, but had never had a chance to learn about, anywhere else.

        and thse are, H1B visa and “foodstamp”

        There are no “foodstamps” in Canada or South Korea. And of course, I do appreciate AmRen for teaching those new things I was never able to learn anywhere else.

        In Canada, most social assistance is provided in cash to the recipient or the physician.

        And IT companies are not the only types of companies that does this.

        I currently have an LG smartphone which was assembled in South Korea, and the highest end smartphones designed in South Korea are assembled in South Korea.

        I remember seeing many toys that were assembled in Korea, USA and Japan when I was a very little guy. But nowadays most things are assmebled in countries with cheaper labours.

        I had an Asus laptop (possibly the most successful company in Taiwan) and it broke down a few weeks ago and now I have a Toshiba laptop
        (Possibly the most prestigious IBM-compatible laptop manufacturer in this world) but they both are assembled in China. Chances are I will not ever get an Asus laptop ever again! Dell, Lenovo, Apple and Toshiba are still the go-to guys when it comes to IBM-compatible laptops.

  • Truthseeker

    This is what electing a new people looks like. Our wonderful, compassionate government is sending us a message that we’re just cogs in a machine that can be replaced on a whim.

    • Spaniard in LA


  • Samuel Hathaway

    What a joke the anti-discrimination laws are. Only the politicians way to pretending to have the purest of motives for acting like they’rebeing fair. Yet, look how all these IT workers are being replaced by East Indians… discrimination based on national origin.

    On their last day, all the IT workers training their replacements should shred every last page of the training manuals, mass delete every e-mail, every office memo, every “how-to” everything.

    If the East Indians are really this smart, let them figure everything out on their own.

    • Pelayo

      I would sit on my behind while the boss isn’t looking, train my replacement badly and maybe corrupt the software on my last day, oh and maybe steal quite a few office supplies. Hell hath no fury.

    • RationaliseThis

      The system is now totally corrupt.

  • JohnEngelman

    Not only does this hurt American employees, it hurts India. India needs educated people.

    • Korean guy

      I read yesterday that IBM India is scheduled to lay off 5000 people

      “BENGALURU: IBM is expected to lay off a few thousand people in India in the coming months as the company moves towards newer technologies such as cloud computing and mobile and as it seeks to deal with dropping revenues and growing margin pressures.

      Multiple sources put the likely figure in India at about 5,000 employees, though they also said many of these could be replaced by contract staff. This will help margins, and facilitate just-in-time hiring in the current volatile market.

      IBM did not respond to questions about this from TOI till late Tuesday evening”

      • Bill Brady

        And another 95,000 Americans. IBM is laying off about 100,000 people worldwide.

        The biggest layoff in history.

        • Samuel Hathaway

          Looks like it’s time to go apply at Dollar Tree.

        • JohnEngelman

          A natural tendency of unregulated capitalism is to accumulate wealth at the top.

          • WR_the_realist

            A natural tendency of socialism is to accumulate wealth at the politicians. And where are your precious Democratic politicians on the H-1B issue? How many of them have stood up and demanded that the program be ended? Anything that adds diversity to the country is A-OK with the Dems.

          • JohnEngelman

            Politicians get rich from contributions from corporate sponsors.

            During the Roosevelt administration taxes on the rich went up. Most Americans benefited. The United States taxed and spent its way to prosperity.

          • cyrusthevirus

            Benefitted ??Wasnt he the President who stole everyones gold and started the downward decline to slavery??

          • JohnEngelman


          • WR_the_realist

            He did steal everyone’s gold. That’s a fact of history. People were forced to sell their gold at one price, and then gold was revalued to a higher price. If the government forced you to sell your house for $100,000, and then valued it at $200,000, wouldn’t you call that theft?

            Gold possession by individuals in the Land of the Free (TM) remained illegal until the late 70s, when a bill sponsored by Ron Paul and Jesse Helms got passed and made it legal again.

          • WR_the_realist

            You keep bringing up Roosevelt. That would be like me trying to defend contemporary Republicans by bringing up Calvin Coolidge.

          • WR_the_realist

            The United States and the Nazis bombed every competing country into oblivion during WW II and the Nazis lost, leaving the U.S. as the last big modern economy still standing. So Americans had big exports and a revived economy. Also, Eisenhower did something no contemporary president would ever do — in Operation Wetback he deported illegal immigrant en masse so the jobs would go to American citizens. So unless your favorite Democrat gets us into World War III we’re not likely to see a repeat of that performance.

          • JohnEngelman

            My favorite Democrat is Franklin Roosevelt. In this century second place probably goes to Bill Clinton.

    • LHathaway


  • Bill Brady

    This has been going on since 1998 under Clinton, and it accelerated under Bush and now Obama.

    The enemy is globalists. The fight is Americans vs globalists.

    Both republicans and democrats are bought and paid for by globalists – ie bankers – which is why both options always make Americans worse off.

    • evilsandmich

      There’s not a right minded person in a field under assault of H1Bers that doesn’t loathe everything about it. I’ve even read comments posted from H1Bers themselves that they don’t like it since its used as a club with which to keep them down even further (“do this for nothing or I’ll dump your butt back to India and get another H1Ber”). At this point it does seem like our elites are trying to stuff as much bunk into these sectors as possible in order to destroy one of the last vestiges of a noisy middle class.

    • Speedy Steve

      Look at the bright side, Bill, the television gives us sports and terrorism as distractions from the misery the elite enjoy stuffing down our throat.

  • superlloyd

    Beyond sickening. This should be the straw that breaks the camel’s back and ignites a radical political overhaul of all the politicians who support the disinheritance of US citizens by foreign interlopers, whether their support is overt or their opposition non-existent.

  • MartelsGhost

    How many of those IT workers voted democrat in the last few elections?

    You reap what you sow…………..

    • ShermanTMcCoy

      Not to slam you too hard, but are you seriously implying that Republicans have been any better (if not worse) on this issue?

      • MartelsGhost


        Both sides are to blame.

        But how many Southern Californian IT sector registered Republicans are there?

        • ShermanTMcCoy

          I think their political affiliations is a non-sequitur, since neither party gives a rat’s.

    • WR_the_realist

      Republicans are just as bad as Democrats on the H-1B program, except for Jeff Sessions and maybe David Brat.

  • Evette Coutier

    Lmao. No sympathy for the loonies in SoCal. They’ve destroyed their own state, and contributing to the fall of America. It’s time they reap the same harm they have inflicted on the rest of us.

    • evilsandmich

      Stupid government types can’t do the math and figure out that the tax take isn’t quite so high when everyone is paid a bowl of rice and beans for a day’s work.

      • cherrie greenbaum123

        “…when everyone is paid a bowl of rice and beans for a day’s work.”
        Definitely not the type of “gas” I want in my office.

  • cherrie greenbaum123

    I’m taking this is their first encounter with the knowledge that their government has sold them out?

  • I’ll bet those socialist Californitard jack-wagons thought this was great when it was happening to everyone else. I think this is pretty funny. Sell your homes, move your families into shelters where you will catch MDR tuberculosis and now measles, and STFU.

    I am absolutely delighted to have written this under my own complete name.

  • smg45acp

    In 5 to 10 years these Indians will be fully trained and experienced. They will start demanding wages similar to the wages of the people they are now replacing. The company will then replace them with new Indians and the cycle repeats its self for perpetuity.

    Meanwhile politicians will be screaming that more American kids need to go into STEM education programs because we are having in import foreign technology workers because we don’t have enough Americans trained for those positions.
    We have plenty of Americans trained for those positions, but they often never get the chance to work in those fields because foreigners work cheaper.

    • Speedy Steve

      Whites will forever be more creative and enterprising. And when pressed, we can cut off their food.

    • Dr.Bazzi

      This country does not have that much time, the clock is ticking on our demise.

  • Speedy Steve

    My local power company, Pepco, sold its generating plants to an international outfit called Mirant, which also owns plants in California, was tied in with the crooked Enron.

  • ‘Diversity’ is grand until the chickens come home to roost.

  • FozzieT

    Wonder who all these SoCal IT workers voted for in the last elections. I’m betting it wasn’t one of those racist border enforcement types. Well, they’re getting what they wanted!

    • Tom_in_Miami

      I keep hearing the word “vote.” What difference does it make who you vote for? I understand that Jeff Sessions would oppose importing more non-Europeans, but what difference would that make when his own party fails to support him? Never mind the American people, most of whom would not have a clue about 99% of the chatter right here in this forum. The ship of state is in perilous seas and needs some serious bailing, but what are WE going to do about it?

  • LHathaway

    hmm . . . I can’t help thinking this story is in Computer World, because it is trying to sell subscriptions and advertising to IT workers . . . and is telling them what they want to hear. There could be a lesson in that somewhere.

  • Spaniard in LA

    I work in mental health. Fortunately, India continues with the practice of dipping their schizophrenic citizens in ice cold water.

    • Oil Can Harry

      That’s the only time they bathe over there!

  • Rhialto

    …, and an added bonus is increasing the Diversity of California Edison, making the FedGov more joyful.

  • WR_the_realist

    Some employees are training their H-1B visa holding replacements, and many have already lost their jobs.

    Employees do this because they lose their severance pay if they don’t. I would hope that many would be willing to give up their severance pay, walk up to their boss, give him the middle finger, and tell him to train the H-1B worker himself. I’d also be sure to wipe any recent work I’d done from my machine.

  • WR_the_realist

    You got us on that one. The problem is, in a winner take all electoral system, how does a decent party ever get any traction?

  • KenelmDigby

    Of course, theoretically, every single employer in the USA could fire all their native American workers and replace them with Indians at a fraction of the price. To all intents and purposes the pool of cheap labor in India is infinite and fungible for ALL US labor positions. Indeed many ‘free market’ economists and liberaterians crow about doing just this. These people have enormous influence in the Republican Party.
    What America is lacking is a real, credible right-wing nationalist party such as the UK’s UKIP. As long as this situation persists, the replacement of American workers by cheap third world imports will continue.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    I am sure the offices must be smelling of curry and sweat that the wonderful smell the Indian workers are bringing to the US

  • Germanic Depressive

    NPR or PBS or Huffington Post could (and would) produce very effective pieces to pull the heart strings of the public about Indians losing jobs to white Americans in India if that was happening for whatever reason.

    Every reporter at those outlets, and 99% of the commentors below the story at those sites would be talking about exploitation and denial of opportunities and “modern day colonialism” and “economic terrorism” and anything else you could care to think of.

    They’d be saying things like “if these industries are going to build facilities and do business in India, why not hire and train Indian workers? Sure, it’s legal what they’re doing shipping in all these white IT guys and call takers from America… but they’re using their dollars to influence the Indian government to grant them these visas and they’ve tainted the entire process with their capitalist conniving. They set up facilities in India because of the lower taxes there, but the Indian people don’t even benefit from those facilities being there because they bring in workers from America! And why? Because some racist old white lady back in the states doesn’t want to hear an Indian accent when she calls customer service? C’mon!”

    I could go on ALL day with this sort of example of how they’d tailor their thinking if the situation was different. Even with the situation the way it is now, they could easily be harping on about us siphoning all the talent out of third world nations and leaving them in worse shape. That’d even be a legitimate argument if you cared to make it.

    The point is, we hear very little pushback against what IS happening because of the all important dynamic. Whites are getting screwed over, and pushed out of industries WHITES INVENTED AND SUSTAINED.

    As long as it’s whites losing control, losing power, losing territory, losing jobs, losing numbers, losing identity, losing group cohesion… it’s seen as a positive thing. They like to see whites knocked down a peg because they think whites have thought too highly of themselves, had it too good, etc.

    What they don’t get is that it’s genetic. It makes exactly as much sense as hating swans for being beautiful.

  • MathMan

    Life in Obongo’s America!

  • yarpos .

    This is news? Been going on for 10 to 15 years

  • Jake Frizzell

    Wondering how many of the displaced workers were left leaning, pro amnesty, pro queer marriage, pro gun control Obama supporters?

    • John Jackson

      Most of them, not that they would be any better off supporting Rep.

  • archer

    The only thing they can do is refuse to train them, they are going to lose their jobs anyway.

  • benvad

    Do think those tech nerds will now stop voting for democrats now? Hell aren’t republicans doing the same nonsense, also?

    • TheMule61

      The two party system is an engineered scam to basically remove all real representation of US citizens in their own government. If you vote right but not GOP, you help the democrat win by plurality. If you vote left and not democrat, then you help the republican win by plurality. The parties do a good job of keeping the public divided on stupid issues that are mostly conjured up and utterly false like “global warming” and “white privilege” and “rape culture”. All that is to prop up the scam of the two party system which only serves whoever owns those parties at the time, which could be any foreign power or banking interest anywhere.

  • benvad


  • Sid Ishus

    The IT workers just don’t appreciate how much immigration helps our economy.

  • TheMaskedUnit

    What are you going to do about it? Vote GOP?

    • John Jackson

      That was sarcasm right?

  • I promised my former bosses 10 years ago that I would never, ever train a replacement. I was their only chemical engineer, and now the company doesn’t have a chemistry department. Too bad, so sad, boys. Their attempted replacement didn’t work out. He had a PhD and was great at going to meetings, but didn’t even know what the guys from Mitsubishi were doing. He neglected hands-on work to the point that a Japanese company patented some new battery technology first, after which my old bosses fired him on the spot. When dealing with Carlos, I always made him what he wanted within a week, sometimes two weeks if I had to order anything from Aldrich or Strem. Jeff didn’t know that Carlos always got his stuff for experiments right away, because I deliberately didn’t tell Jeff that. There was no “drop-in” replacement for me.

    Carlos liked H-1B’s, but the Japanese we worked with despised them. Vikram could not have invented his way out of a paper bag with a chainsaw and a flamethrower. He was playing “dress-up” at work. Narayan hated me for explaining on the white board why a certain drying chemical would work and leave no residue. The last time I saw him, I was delivering pizza, and I don’t think he recognized me. They both complained that I was overpaid, but I drove a Mazda RX-7 that I also used to race and looked like a complete wreck. It was the fastest street-legal car in town. They leased their cars. I dumpster-dived for meat behind Whole Foods, while they ate at restaurants. My rule about money is that one can shave 20% off anything and then get used to it. I also spoke – at the time – some Japanese, and cultivated friendships with the on-loan engineers from Japan, usually taking them shooting with old military rifles. Those are the guys I miss, not the Indians.

    Those Indians are in Californiastan now. I haven’t worked in my field in going on 15 years, but I sure don’t miss it any. I did get to rub the H-1B empty suits a bit raw when I went to Australia, as I let one of my American co-workers stay here for free. He didn’t have the keys to my gun safes, but that was it.

    • Japanese can be very interesting. I met some who worked for Sony and my wife cautioned me never to talk about WW-II with them [my Dad fought in the Pacific w/ the Army Air Corps].

      Well somehow we got to talking about WW-II and they didn’t harbor any resentment against me at all. They were quite proud about the engineering that went into the early A6M “Zero” fighters, although they’d be the 1st to admit that near the end (or middle) of WW-II the plane was completely outclassed.

  • david dorian

    Replacing one people with another, systematically and by design is Genocide.

    This goes beyond business.

    • TheMule61

      Yep, our government and corporations are owned by people with a fanatical hatred of Americans, and all this stuff is part of a massive “payback”. The progtards and RINOs, being the insufferable morons and psychopaths they are, refuse to see it and actually facilitate it.

  • TheMule61

    American Express did this about 10 years ago. Virtually all new jobs in the US are going to foreign nationals who will work for less. There are literally seminars for corporate HR people to attend where they learn to screw US citizens out of any chance of finding a good job.

  • When will this outrage end?
    H-1B visa holders are used to replace the CEO’s of major IT companies. H-1B holders are used to replace our Senators and Congress people. H-1B Holders are used to replace our media commentators and the executives running our Hollywood studios and major media outlets. I think if these things happened we would see an end to the H-1B program.

    • cyrusthevirus

      I think –from the UK -that H-1B means CONQUEST!!!

  • cyrusthevirus

    Well heres one thing that is the same in the US as the UK -all the professional white collar employees who voted for the Left and sneered at the lower orders when they got culturally enriched out of meaningful work are now being shafted –Ha Ha f******** ha!! The look of your average lefty when they get bitten by their own beliefs is priceless !!

    • One would think so. But as this article shows, their anger can get channeled into trivialities like “a bad management culture.” Some may assign the blame to greedy managers in their former firm. But far too few people link it to politicians and immigration policy.

  • Magician

    The current CEO of Microsoft is from India and he will be quite relentless when it comes to saturating the Redmond company’s workforce with H1B visa holders……

  • SeaMonkey Browser


    Watch the video clip above, only if you do not mind unbelievable gore.

  • Speaking of which, the blogger Vox Day has a good theory, one that I could have come up with but I could kick myself for not being insightful enough: All those camps, which we think are meant for us, may well be meant for the powers that be to protect them from us.

  • mrdevilsadvocate954 .

    There’s a lot of underground stuff with H1B sponsorship. Cash kickbacks to managers, working highly irregular hours (100+), no benefits, more abusive environment, etc. The employer lords over the H1B worker that they are sponsoring their temporary worker visa status in a much better country to live in generally. Kinda like leaving prison and dealing with a corrupt parole officer…you do what they say, or else you’re screwed.

  • kinja95

    Elections have consequences. Why are these liberals whining about what they voted to get?

  • Horace Gunn

    I wonder how many of these Southern California IT workers acted like good little liberals and applauded open borders, diversity and tolerance? Quite a few I’m sure. Too bad if they did. Now live with it.

  • Gabe

    We need to call on Congress and the White House – this is not right. We must get rid of these Indians, send them back home. It is not their fault, but this is an assault to our way of life, our right as citizens. Obama should take notice that this is wrong and it’s his fault. We have a lot of well qualified unemployed IT workers being displaced by these H-1b Indians and we need to send each and everyone of them back. It’s a direct attack on US workers and Where Are the Republicans? Seems like they are in on this too. They complained on anything that Obama does; – surely this is one of the worse decisions the President did and I don’t hear a pin drop from these Goof Off Politicians Republicans on this issue. We let Congress and the President get away with this, all our jobs are in jeopardy, even the reliable South American work force will be in trouble.