Dave Agema’s White Supremacist New Year

Ken Braun, MLive, January 7, 2015

In a New Years’ Eve posting on his infamous Facebook page, disgraced Michigan GOP national committeeman Dave Agema reprinted an essay about African-Americans. Either Agema or somebody he is quoting endorses it as “very interesting” and “very enlightening” for “anyone concerned about crime in America.” The essay–since taken down by Agema–is copied from the May 9 edition of American Renaissance, a white supremacist magazine.

While more grammatically precise than most racist screeds, it is racist all the same. Wrapping up his thoughts, the author–allegedly an experienced defense attorney–says the following:

However, my experience has also taught me that blacks are different by almost any measure to all other people. They cannot reason as well. They cannot communicate as well. They cannot control their impulses as well. They are a threat to all who cross their paths, black and non-black alike.

This is preceded by three pages of gross stereotyping. White felony defendants and their families are portrayed as better behaved, dressing more appropriately, and deferential to their lawyers; while black defendants are ill behaved, ill dressed and less intelligent. Black “bad guys” are supposedly far worse than “white” bad guys.

Agema’s holidays are apparently the season for hateful reading. Just days before Easter 2013, he repeated the malicious anti-gay ravings of a Ku Klux Klan leader. In the week following New Years Day 2014, he stumbled upon an essay declaring no Muslim had ever contributed anything positive to America, passing it along as “eye opening.”

It was at that point that many responsible Republicans and conservatives who had not already done so put distance between themselves and Agema. Michigan GOP chairman Bobby Schostak, GOP national chairman Reince Priebus, Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette, major party donor Betsy Devos, six Republican members of Congress from Michigan, and numerous others called for his resignation.

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This weekend, GOP State Reps. Gary Glenn of Midland, Todd Courser of Lapeer and Cindy Gamrat of Plainwell are listed to appear at a tea party “Pow Wow” at the Soaring Eagle Casino. Each lawmaker was eagerly endorsed by Agema, and Agema is expected to be a keynote speaker at the event.

{snip} The time to just take a stand for decency is today. If Mr. Agema appears at this event, the room should be devoid of anyone else with a responsible public or private title.

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  • TruthBeTold

    Welcome, Michigan Live readers.

    • Robert Binion

      That’s OK with me but I say they don’t get the secret decoder ring.

    • Oil Can Harry

      And if you Michigan Live readers want to avoid those awful, conservative Whites feel free to move to your nearby towns of Flint, Detroit or Benton Harbor.

      • Speedy Steve

        Saginaw is no great shakes either. For now only the UP remains White with a few Chippewas to run the casinos.

    • Speedy Steve

      I went to visit a friend in Saint Clair he gave me directions to use I-275 around Detroit on the grounds that even driving 75 and 96 through the city (let alone city streets) is tantamount to taking your life in your own hands. I ignored his advice and got myself a serious dose of cultural diversity and a good nagging from the Mrs! Flint is horrible beyond belief and Saginaw is nearly as bad. Sault Ste. Marie is nice.

      • dukem1

        Went thru the locks when I worked on the boats.

      • Ron Cheaters

        Salt stee Marie +1

  • Luca

    When will they ever stop to wonder where these ‘gross’ stereotypes are originated?

    I find most stereotypes to be rooted in truth.

    No one accuses blacks of being bad drivers, bad dancers, or bad at bouncing balls. There are things that they are good at and things they are bad at, like everyone else.

    But apparently it is a crime to speak the truth about the protected ones. The useful idiots of the Left.

    • LHathaway

      How about we speak the truth about Whites for once? Millions of native born white men are earning minimum wage, receiving SSI for mental issues, in jail, living alone or on a friends couch while the nation decides it needs to import even more foreigners of all education levels (high reachers preferred) most of whom are men. There are over 100 million foreign born American’s right now. Those white men, with their ultimate superior genes and singular contributions to every good thing ever, living on their friends couch are not fathering children. They’re not quite vibrant or educated enough. They haven’t been for a few generations. Going on about how blacks are dirty and crime prone is doing little about that, except perhaps reducing the number of crimes they commit and making the lowest of low of them feel better, perhaps, What does it accomplish, make them feel better or make them even more guilty, turning other Whites further away from them? It certainly doesn’t bring up the issue. Or make Whites an issue.

      • Luca

        And for all those who speak about Labor Unions as if they were a sacred religion, remember this, they are allowing White workers to sit idle as immigrants poor across the border stealing jobs and undercutting wages.

        They are paid (by Union dues) to speak up for the American worker and yet they support the Left and the immigrants. What a disgrace.

      • BillMiller66

        Only 2.6% of the American workforce earn minimum wage. Most of these are entry-level jobs offered to people who have a very minimal skill set, often their first job and they’re still learning things like the need to show up on time.

        • Raymond Kidwell

          I’d say about 30% earn minimal wage. There is a McDonalds or Walmart on every block. There are very few real jobs, such as factories. Unless you know people, somehow own your own business, have a trade (like plumbing) or a college degree trade, you will make minimal wage. Gone are the days when all you needed was a strong back and work ethic to make a decent living. Without an education, the jobs are all minimal wage, regardless of age, intelligence, trainability etc. it doesn’t matter. There are more unskilled laborers than there are jobs to fill them.

          • BillMiller66

            You could say it was 30%, but you’d be wrong. Numbers published by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics indicate that the number is 2.6%. See “Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2012,” US BLS, February 26, 2013. Politifact also discusses this in terms that non-economists can understand. www [dot] tnyurl [dot] megxn87

          • Raymond Kidwell

            Come on don’t be stupid. I go and work for $8.00 an hour. The minimal wage is $7.95. BLS is going to report that I don’t make minimal wage. Few people are paid minimal wage to the penny. I am referring to people who earn below poverty wages that are basically minimal wage. When someone earns $8.50 at WalMart and can’t pay their bills, and only getting 30 hours a week, I consider that minimal wage. If you count all these people in below poverty retail, restaurant and other jobs its around 30% of jobs.

            If you look at people without an education its around 80% of jobs available to you. And the other 20% aren’t much better.

      • Raymond Kidwell

        Agreed. I’d like to see more focus on concrete goals and action which helps 1) Protect whites and males from racism and sexism against them 2) Promote white culture 3) Promote white families 4) Promote white identity.

        These things would be more productive than constant talks about how dumb this group or that group is. For example, we should focus on more articles about crimes against white people that are going on now (such as discrimination). Questioning affirmative action and pointing out how it is based on falsehoods. Or organizing real projects and getting others involved helping each other.

    • Anna Tree

      Mr. Agemas has seen the light.
      He may have to lie to others and say some sorry and whatever to please the PC gestapo but it seems he won’t be able to lie to himself anymore, he knows now, he has read texts that makes sense to explain what is going on.

      And then one day, he won’t care like many of us and many others and it will soon be the end of the tunnel for the Whites by the shear numbers of Whites awakened and who don’t want to lie about the Emperor’s clothes anymore.

      That’s the art of noticing. One day, you can’t silence what you notice anymore and what your reason tells you, even if the diversity priests and your emotions tell you differently.
      The truth sets free, and it’s a relief.

      • MrGJG

        So true. I sometimes wish I never peeled back the curtain. Like you say, once you know, everything that comes after is seen differently.

        You make halfhearted attempts to fight it initially, but eventually we all let go and then it’s like a relief valve.

    • Jacobite2

      The truth doesn’t matter to Leftists, because Leftists know “The Truth” — US Leftists hate normal, law-abiding white Christians.

    • Earl P. Holt III

      It is precisely BECAUSE many stereotypes are rooted in fact that it was necessary to informally ban their use, particularly vis a vis “Africanus Criminalis.”

    • Realist

      “No one accuses blacks of being bad drivers, bad dancers, or bad at bouncing balls.”
      Unfortunately those are useless endeavors.

      • UncleSham

        I accuse Blacks of being bad drivers, especially the women, that has been my experience. I don’t really like their dancing either, although I guess they do a good job at it for what it is. I will concede that they tend to be pretty good at basketball, even though the Whites normally won the Black vs White pick-up games we used to play when I was a kid.

  • shatwood

    Amren is a white supremacist rag?

    News to me.

    • Alexandra1973

      I guess race realism=white supremacism.

      Not sure how.

      • Ludwig

        Being white and not degrading white people=White Supremacy.

    • Cecil Broomsted

      American Renaissance is not like the typical jack-booted skin-head or klan sites. This is what makes it unique in my view. As Jared made mention on some other topic awhile back, 60 years ago, the ideas and opinions expressed at American Renaissance were held by most Americans. This has never been an extreme website and personaly I hope it stays that way.

      • Trevor Pilsbury

        I think you and other Amren readers will find this interesting and well worth reading. It is a short article written by a Muslim who explains why no devout Muslim will ever fit into the West…

        http://www.answering-islam.Org/authors/thomas/incompatible.Html

        • Nonhumans

          Informative. Great link, man.

      • Zimriel

        As of 1955 is when Buckley himself gave a qualified defence of Jim Crow at least in electoral-politics, because the white race at the time and place was superior. Now in 2015, I see an absolute devolution in the black race, with the white race also declining but not nearly as much.

        SBPDL is National Review’s stance in 1955 taken at its word. As for AmRen, it’s somewhere between those two.

    • LHathaway

      For more breaking news, check a mirror.

    • Zimriel

      It’s one of those factoids well-known by those who refuse to come here. (I was one of them once.)

      People who make comments like that should come here and read the posts.

      • BlueSonicStreak

        Yeah, no one outside of people who identify as race realists or white nationalists seem to know what those are, or the difference between that and white supremacy. Even most of the people I know who know the other terms consider them completely interchangeable with “white supremacist.” Pro-white discourse is demonized to the point that I too would have avoided coming here for years of my life. I essentially learned to treat sites like this as the haunted houses of the internet. We could be talking about nothing but caring for pet hamsters here. No one would know; they’ve already decided the point of AmRen is Nazism. That’s how you get articles in liberal media claiming this places glorifies Hitler.

        I find that distressing, as I think “white supremacy” has a specific meaning. I don’t personally think whites are supreme beings, or that other peoples should be enslaved/exterminated or have no right to exist. It seems to be very hard to keep the charge from sticking, though.

        Atheists sometimes make the argument, “We’re all atheists for some gods. I just believe in fewer gods than you do.”

        Well, I want to ask liberals, do you want to preserve the unique cultures and ethnicities of the peoples “of color” of the world? Well, I just extend that to one more race than you do.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Okay, now don’t grovel like a spineless wimp! We all need to get where accusations of racism are met with a response like this.

    • Earl P. Holt III

      So true! The fact is, attacks by the Corrupt Leftist Media are only effective if one reacts in the manner the CLM demands: If you tell them to go scr*w themselves, the controversy dies down very quickly, but if you apologize and beg for forgiveness — like Trent Lott — you are finished.

  • Easyrhino

    “However, my experience has also taught me that blacks are different by almost any measure to all other people. They cannot reason as well. They cannot communicate as well. They cannot control their impulses as well. They are a threat to all who cross their paths, black and non-black alike.”

    Notice they don’t attempt to dispute this, merely call it racist.

    • Samuel_Morton

      Point and sputter. It’s all they have.

      • LHathaway

        Intentional or not, you remind me of the Invasion of the Body Snatchers movie with Donald Southerland.

        • Samuel_Morton

          Very appropriate. That’s how claims of racism are made, mindless pointing and howling.

          • LHathaway

            Very effective movie, by the way. Not as good as the original but quite shocking. You can enjoy these movies without being aware of the allegory but they are even more frightening if you are.

        • meanqueen

          Hey, I reference that movie all the time! I feel like I’m living my own personal Body Snatchers movie on a daily basis.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            I feel like I’m living “The Planet of the Apes” on a daily basis…

          • LHathaway

            Posters on here sometimes remind me of Charlton Heston in a cage. In the scene he makes a paper airplane and makes if fly across the room. The ape crumples and throws it down angrily saying something like, ‘rubbish’.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Metaphor and symbolic language are NOT for those who have attenuated and under-evolved Frontal Lobes: For them, everything is literal…

    • BlueSonicStreak

      They think calling it racist IS a refutation, because anything “racist” is self-evidently wrong.

  • MekongDelta69

    I have NO idea what “MLive” is, but they should be named “M[Brain]Dead.”

    Could they be any more condescending?

  • Alexandra1973

    Part of my comment there: What did he say there that was not true? Let’s have a REAL answer, other than “That’s racist!”

    • Jim

      I don’t see your post on MLive.

      • Alexandra1973

        Same user name as this one, as far as I know it’s there…unless they’re in the usual habit of deleting posts that don’t support The Narrative.

        • Jim

          I see it. It came up a few minutes ago. Good post.

        • Luca

          I tried posting but keep getting bounced. Mostly raving lefty lunatics.

    • Tarczan

      They can still get a lot of mileage out of the term racist. We need to start proclaiming ourselves racist and then tell them what it means- that racial differences are real.

    • Frank_DeScushin

      “Let’s have a REAL answer, other than “That’s racist!”

      Let’s not forget that the author also called us white supremacist and implied we can’t write grammatically because, well, only dummies could believe those evil, racist thoughts. The author got in an ad hominem hat trick while deploring hate. I guess some hate is permissible.

    • Earl P. Holt III

      You won’t get it, any more than we are going to get that frank and candid conversation about race that we’ve wanted for so many decades…

  • JohnEngelman

    When is that conversation on race going to begin? There are a few things I would like to contribute to that conversation.

    • John

      Probably never. What we need back is what I would call an “understanding”. Prior to the mid 60s, way back during the age of segregation, blacks understood they were dumb as rocks, had no chance whatsoever of competing with whites anywhere but on a sports field and everyone got along more or less within understood parameters. Now, they’ve been lead to believe, falsely, that they are more. I can’t picture most any white person, because we’re entirely too polite, to have a “conversation” with a black and tell them to their face they’re no doubt dumb as a rock. You’re damned no matter what you say. Any married man whose wife has ever asked the question “does this (whatever) make me look fat” will know exactly what I’m talking about here.

    • John Smith

      If you try to have it, you won’t like the results – you “racist.”

      • JohnEngelman

        The conversation on race liberals ask for makes me think of the Hundred Flowers Campaign in Communist China. Chinese were asked to criticize the government. Those who did were put into prison.

  • phorning

    “This is preceded by three pages of gross stereotyping. White felony defendants and their families are portrayed as better behaved, dressing more appropriately, and deferential to their lawyers; while black defendants are ill behaved, ill dressed and less intelligent. Black “bad guys” are supposedly far worse than “white” bad guys.”

    The author was relating his own experiences. These aren’t stereotypes, it is a report on actual experiences he had as a public defender. Liberals know the experiences you have had better than you do.

    • shawnmer

      “Liberals know the experiences you have had better than you do.”

      Nominate this for comment of the evening.

  • Cecil Broomsted

    Still in denial. The person who wrote this screed quite obviously has very little real-world experience with typical African Americans or Moslems. It is the knee-jerk reaction of someone who would rather take the “racism” branding iron out of the fire rather than honestly seek the truth in these matters. Our problems with Moslems and Africans in Europe and African Americans and some Latinos in the U.S. is greatly enhanced by these ignorant liberals. It is their ilk in high places that have led us to the brink of disaster we now face.

  • anony

    So much for free speech, tolerance, inclusiveness, etc. in America.

    Sure the poor man could say what he wanted but the price he paid is not free.

    Also, notice how the entire Establishment stood up as ONE to decry the poor slob.

    “We have met the enemy, and he is…us.”

  • Caucasoid88

    While more grammatically precise than most racist screeds, it is racist all the same.

    The dreaded ‘R’ word used to discount any and all pattern-noticers. And yes, it is infinitely more eloquent than your one-dimensional tattle-tailing turd of an article, Mr. Braun.

  • TomIron361

    Seems like this guy, Ken Braun is a bit hyper over this. Seems more like a hysterical girl rather than a level headed man.

    • phillyguy

      Lets put him in a jail cell with five Negros for 3 days , when he gets out he will be the biggest racist in the country!

      • John Ambrose

        or fit him with an ankle bracelet and make him spend 6 months within the city limits of Detroit.

    • John Smith

      Being hysterical is part and parcel of being a prog, since they have so few facts that support their Weltanschauung otherwise.

  • B.E.L.

    Wait, this is a racist site? I thought all we do is discuss facts.

    • cherrie greenbaum123

      Correct. Labeling something racist discounts it. More accurately, this site deals with race realism as well as gross antisocial black behavior.

    • R L Buds

      That’s the point-facts are racist.

  • Bryce Armstrong

    I’ll ride with Agema to!

  • NW

    “American Renaissance, a white supremacist magazine”

    Mmmm, and here i am thinking that AmRen is not right-wing enough! LOL

    • John Smith

      Many gun owners think the NRA makes too many compromises, but, since the “progressives” think they’re Satan’s spawn, I end up renewing my membership anyway.

  • DennisDale

    While more grammatically precise than most racist screeds, it is racist all the same.

    Subtext: a rational argument but racist all the same! I will feel perverse satisfaction the day someone just comes out and says it: “true, but racist all the same!”

  • Greek

    “While more grammatically precise than most racist screeds, it is racist all the same.”
    Really now? They’re going to try to convince people it’s “racists” that are the uneducated ones with poor grammar and not the other way around?

    • John Smith

      MSM “journalists” make all kinds of idiotic mistakes in grammar, orthography, and, most importantly, facts.

  • LHathaway

    The ‘white birth rate’ is down because they have not yet shipped enough men of color into the country, if that is possible. . . .

    • archer

      The white birth rate has been low for two reasons, we got caught up in the overpopulation bs, white countries were never in danger of overpopulation, it’s probably been two generations since the white birthrate has been more than replacement levels, secondly whites tend not to breed more than they can feed, while being taxed to pay for the more prolific breeders. Many white families would have more children if they thought they could afford them.

      • WhiteVeinKratom

        “Many white families would have more children if they thought they could afford them.”

        Very true.

  • Ograf

    I hate that phrase “White Supremacist” I don’t want anyone but White people closer to me than 1000 miles. Lets call it a sensible isolationist that is sick of crime and insanity and the violence. I don’t want to be ruling over anyone. I just want to be left alone with my people.
    So they may insert that phrase where the sun doesn’t shine.

    • bbshaw

      You’re a White separatist, as am i. However, nothing offends diversitards more than a white person peacefully enjoying the company of another white person.

      • benvad

        Escaping black pathologies means to Marxist theorists that you think you’re superior to all others.

      • meanqueen

        I prefer “white separatist” to any other term. Unlike some who post here, I don’t hate entire groups of people because I recognize that in every bunch, there are bound to be some good members. I can envision a friendly relationship of mutual respect (where possible) – across a fence. I just don’t want the problems that inevitable go along with mixed societies where there is no common culture to bind people together.

        • Engelsman

          You have pretty much summed up the Apartheid (Separate Development) System that we had in South Africa that the rest of the world worked so hard to destroy.

  • Cid Campeador

    ‘In the week following New Years Day 2014, he stumbled upon an essay
    declaring no Muslim had ever contributed anything positive to America,
    passing it along as “eye opening.”
    Well, they gave us September 11 an “Historic day” to be precise. Then there was Fort Hood, the Boston Marathon Bombing” “The guy in Buffalo who with his wife bought a TV station, it’s mission bring”to dispel negative perceptions of Muslims”. Police were called to the Station only to find that the man had relieved his wife of her head due to her request for a divorce.
    These things and many others were certainly “POSITIVE”ly unforgettable.

  • Speedy Steve

    Ken Braun must subscribe to the $PLC because only they have branded AmRen as ‘White supremacist.”

  • In order for what you want to happen actually to happen, you better attach a personal check payable to the RNC with an amount at or close to the legal annual maximum.

    • IstvanIN

      That wouldn’t come anywhere near what Adleson donates.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    I used to be a Public Defender in a city. Most Public Defenders in urban areas, if they were truly honest, would agree with many of the representations made in the article being debated.

  • shawnmer

    Everyone with the on-the-ground experience in the legal system knows it. Ya just can’t SAY it, can ya??

    You’ll notice there is no actual disputing by this author of what is asserted in the AR article, merely the old “point and sputter” and referring to the author as “allegedly” an attorney. And that all “decent” and “responsible” people must condemn it.

    • Weisheit77

      It’s the same in education.

  • Nonhumans

    Why do it anonymously? That really only lends our enemies (Libtards) unearned credibility.

  • Da Troof

    As usual, nothing about how what he said is wrong, just that it’s racist.

  • Evette Coutier

    Call others racist is not a conversation. It’s an assault.

  • Ron Cheaters

    The leftists want to kill him..
    Simply for speaking the truth.

  • propagandaoftruth

    I don’t get your point.

    • But you understood LHathaways’ insane rantings ?

      (No offense meant, LH, I take great pleasure in trying to decipher your posts.)

      • meanqueen

        I understood her rant and I didn’t think it was insane. Read Charles Murray’s Coming Apart: The State of White America 1960 -2010. It’s a brilliant book that discusses the unraveling of white society, and white lower class and middle class men are among those hurt the most. LHathaway can correct me if I’m wrong, but I think her point is that white society had better pick itself up and start making positive changes. Griping is only useful if it motivates. Demoralized people are in no position to fight a battle of this magnitude. Let’s get fit, and go to war.

        • Hm… I was being a bit facetious, as this is one of the … clearer points LHathaway has attempted to make, but thank you for the book recommendation, I’ll add it to the reading list.

          Also, is LH a she? I dont ever remember that coming up.

          • meanqueen

            Actually, I don’t really know if LH is a he or a she! For some reason I thought LH was a she. 🙂 I strongly reiterate the book recommendation. It is amazing. If you’re not a numbers person, your eyes may glaze over at all the statistics, but what you read will stir you. Basically, the libtards screwed us over, and the ones who have money are better able to bounce back from their little social experiment, but not so all the poorer whites AND blacks who followed them into the darkness.

        • Raymond Kidwell

          My one issue with Charles Murray is I disagree with his assertions that we live in a meritocracy. Studies show that lots of high ability/low income people are denied opportunity, especially (almost exclusively) among low income white males with high ability.

  • meanqueen

    A poor economy does affect the birthrate – but in this case, not that much. The birthrate for Europeans and Americans (white, that is) is still low even during times of prosperity, like the 1990’s. The birthrate is down because women decided that they were too smart to be mothers and homemakers, and because men decided it was nice to have a woman’s income. The birthrate among the intelligentsia is down because of environmental concerns, which is really silly considering that only a tiny fraction of the world’s population is swayed by this, and those are the people whose birthrate is already below replacement rate – how are we going to get all those third worlders to stop breeding?) Liberals don’t think that far ahead. Westerners want more material things, and they view children as expensive and standing in the way of acquisition. Lastly, people are sheep and want to do what other people are doing, and somehow white Europeans/Americans starting having 0/1/2 children and anyone who has three or more is given the stink eye. For all these reasons, the birthrate is down, moreso than because of the poor economy. Also, marriage is out of favor.

    • Hy Alldredge

      I blame the pill. We’re not wired to want children, we’re wired to want sex. The children are a side effect. There’s all sorts of other drives people have, too, though, that having children makes difficult to realize. Men, for example, want to sleep with lots of women but having kids (for white men) makes that more difficult. Women want to continue being attractive to alpha males with good genes, and having children puts a damper on that too. We’re also wired to desire material comfort. No reliable birth control makes early marriage much more likely, and more kids resulting from it.

      The sexual urge is ultimately stronger. But the pill allows for sex without the side effects of children. Combine this with feminism which has ruined any benefits of marriage for lots of men, add porn to the mix, and you have lots fewer white children. Lower IQ, more impulse-driven people can’t use birth control as effectively, and also don’t care about being able to provide for their children as much as whites. So they pop them out.

      Japan is also experiencing very low birth rates, for similar reasons I’d imagine. Except maybe for the feminism.

  • RonanTheLibtardian

    Ken Braun prides himself in knowing every Chris Hitchens quote.

    Maybe he should concentrate on the more important ones:

    No man is blinder than he who chooses not see.

    Can’t see the forest for the trees.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    I have known several nigros who got S.S.I. because they were drug addicts or alcoholics. (In the “hood,” these are referred to as “nut-checks.”)

    “Become an addict and get a nut-check from ‘Uncle’ to buy your dope or alcohol !”

    • Sick of it

      They call them crazy checks around here.

  • John R

    So, American Renaissance is a “White Supremacist” website? How? From my understanding, we only advocate White people preserving their culture and having the same rights afforded every other race of people. How is that “supremacist”? I have yet to read any post claiming that Whites should be given the best jobs regardless of their qualifications. I have yet to read any post that says slavery or violence toward non-Whites is justified, except in self defense. This in marked contrast to the so-called “liberal” comments by “progressives.”

    • kikz2

      it is because ‘they’ the social justice warriors say it is. anything to with Whites is automatically evil, racist, supremacist, immoral, genocidal, disgusting, oppressive, micro-aggressive, hate filled, grammatically incorrect, murderous, Nazi, puppy/kitten killing, misogynistic, xenophobic, and worst of all ….homophobic. i miss any?

  • kinja95

    As a white man in 2015 America, being labeled a racist and white supremacist is a badge of honor in my opinion.

    • John Smith

      Live the “diversity” lie at work to keep your job, but drop the charade among friends & family.

  • Screamin_Ruffed_Grouse

    Fred Reed, whose articles introduced me to AmRen, once described this site as “more often maligned than refuted.” This screed is a perfect example.

  • jaye ellis

    Our side has to learn how to support regular folks who break PC thought speech restrictions. When ever the thought police point their finger and hiss

    RACIST – he’s a Witch burn the Witch

    Our side must not backdown as has happened so many, many times.

    I worked as public school teacher in Red Hook Brooklyn, called called RACIST about 6 million times. After the 1 millionth time the name calling stopped having any effect what so ever.

    It’s just a name folks. Our people are getting ganged raped by Pakistani sexual grooming gangs in Yorkshire England, all Westerners are now targeted for kidnapping, torture beheading by the Sons of Allah in the Middle East, Pakistan, No go zones in France.

    So when you and someone you know or support is attacked with the word:

    RACIST

    Don’t back down, don’t apologize.

    Toughen up.

  • WR_the_realist

    I don’t know whether black “bad guys” are worse than white “bad guys” but I know that there are proportionately a lot more black “bad guys”. And Amren is not a white supremacist web site, it is a race realist web site.

  • BlueSonicStreak

    Sigh. I just had the first class for an introductory anthropology course I’m taking this semester. Our instructor went over the syllabus at the start of class. Apparently one week of the course is devoted both to “the breadth of human variation” AND the non-existence of “race” (yes, the word “race” is in scare quotes in our syllabus). I sh!t you not.

    Now, I know the establishment opinion is that race doesn’t properly exist. So I expected that. But when he got to that part of the syllabus our (white, I believe – his last name is Gaelic) instructor spent a good ten minutes explaining how the “ideal human being” would be a “medium brown [mutt].” Presumably with significant Negroid admixture, since he is apparently enamoured with the idea that maximum genetic variance is most optimal (and the have the most genetic variance, yes?).

    This is perfectly acceptable to say – nay, teach.

    Then I come on here at lunch, and apparently a man’s essay about his personal experiences with blacks being more criminal or less intelligent than Hispanics, whites or Asians (the latter group being stated in the essay to be LESS criminal than whites) is “white supremacist.”

    Crazy world.

    • Anon Emus

      Ask your professor what “race” his neighbors are? I’ll bet they’re mostly white.

      • BlueSonicStreak

        I can tell you without asking him that his neighbours are white.

        We live in a Canadian city that’s two-thirds white and the rest are mostly East or South Asian. (I suspect we are also seeing a large increase in Southeast Asians not yet represented by the local census.) So yeah. I’ve had maybe 5 or 6 black coworkers in my life, and all but one were okay. Outside of that “selection” (there are plenty of employable Asians around for “color,” so I imagine the black coworkers I’ve had were among the best blacks in the city), my experience with blacks is almost overwhelming negative. But given how little of it I’ve had, it was admittedly easy to dismiss (when I was a liberal) as isolated incidents.

        Of course, we also have Natives around here. Their communities are terribly dysfunctional, to the point that I admit I sort of ignored it a lot of the time as a lib because I wasn’t sure what could be done about it. I didn’t want to admit how uneasy and “racist” I was around them when I didn’t know how to fix that about myself, either.

        But I get the impression our Natives aren’t as violent as your blacks.

        His experience is probably similar. Us all being medium brown blends is probably an academic concept to him. One that he supports as a Man of Science, I’m sure.

        • Anon Emus

          Our natives drink excessively an use drugs, and they can be violent. I’ve had some personal experience having had them briefly as neighbors, but my exposure to Native Americans in general has been limited because I live in a North Eastern City where there aren’t many pure blood natives….Blacks are the biggest physical threat for most people here. Near the southern border it’s probably Latino gangs. I don’t now what you’re learning in that course, but a lot of racial differences are self-evident. Blacks use bad english, they’re aggressive, highly sexualized and they don’t act in a civil manner. Asians are probably the best behaved, generally.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            I’ve been here for a few months, so I know some of the general differences people have observed. I was also a hardcore “anti-racist” liberal for years, and deliberately sought out blacks to befriend even though I wouldn’t have run into them much otherwise. Nasty, surly people for the most part, who took great glee in abusing white people where possible. Glad I got away from that.

            I’m taking the course (and probably more anthro courses in time) to have better background info in the field. I’m aware I will be taught that races “don’t exist” in that time, and that most observed differences are environmentally/socially based. Based on what I have seen from race realists, I am skeptical of that viewpoint. But I want to evaluate it on my own. And I am generally excited for the class because I think anthropology is an interesting field.

          • Anon Emus

            I’m in a certain “Tribe” that’s highly infected with liberalism, but when their neighborhoods became “diversified” most of them moved to the suburbs. And when I walk down the street in my city, I’m just another white guy who has to look over his shoulder for “gentle giants” So you can choose to believe what your professor tells you or what you see with your own eyes. But even Jesse Jackson said he was nervous walking down the street and seeing black youth behind him.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            Well, black violence is well-established. It’s just a matter of what people consider the explanation for it to be. And, to be honest, I don’t entirely buy the idea that it is solely biological. I’m sure race has something to do with it but black behaviour can and does vary somewhat by culture as well.

            Sorry about the liberal infection. I had it myself for a while, and very badly. It nearly killed me. I hope you all get better.

        • Anon Emus

          You should ask your professor is why immigration is always one way: Non-whites move to white countries. It almost never happens in reverse, and that’s true in Europe too. Then even within the USA, non-whites prefer proximity to whites if possible. What do you think his answer would be?

          • BlueSonicStreak

            That’s good, although it could result in a protracted argument about whether or not the West’s success can be explained through factors that are not innate to people. If there is an opportunity during the “race” week, I will, though.

            I also want to ask what will happen when the founding peoples of Western nations vanish and the West ultimately (like other empires that had their founding peoples vanish) falls.

      • Anon Emus

        Our natives drink excessively and use drugs, and they can be violent. I’ve had some personal experience having had them briefly as neighbors, but my exposure to Native Americans in general has been limited because I live in a North Eastern City where there aren’t many pure blood natives….Blacks are the biggest physical threat for most people here. Near the southern border it’s probably Latino gangs.

  • Woodsman

    I was employed as a criminal investigator for a county that included a large metropolitan area that everyone here would recognize if I were to include the name in my comment. I will refrain to protect my identity. During ten years employed by the county’s Public Defender’s Office, I came to the same realization about blacks as the author of “Confessions of a Public Defender” did.
    In a completely different city, I found that blacks are exactly as he describes and there is nothing I can add to enhance his comments. I can only say that from my experience, there is nothing in his article that is not absolutely correct except that in my area, blacks also committed a large number of sexual assaults in addition to all of their other felonies. My duties included investigating charges against them and monitoring their cases as they proceeded through the “criminal justice” system. There is not enough room here for me to elaborate on the outrageous lies they told and how incredibly stupid and remorseless they were. In ten years and hundreds of cases that were not dealt and went to trial, there was only one case in which the defendant was found not guilty and he was later killed during a drug deal. My job was primarily to investigate their cases for their public defender and produce some evidence that they were wrongly accused and arrested. With the exception of that one case, they were all overwhelmingly guilty and it was obvious to any rational person. I had one public defender (tribe member) attempt to make up a story for a defendant who was too stupid to make up one of his own. He wanted me to help with the fabrication and I absolutely refused. With public defenders, it is a game that is about winning even though they know their defendant is guilty. I lasted for ten years and retired because I could no longer be part of an organization defending these savages. My salvation was that my investigations almost always proved that the defendant was guilty beyond any doubt and subsequently their cases were dealt and they went to prison. I must admit that after twenty years of military service, I had already established an unfavorable opinion of blacks and this period of employment confirmed it. I now live in an area where the percentage of blacks is approximately .01. As a result, I may observe a negro passing through once every couple of months or so. I really get an uncomfortable feeling when spotting one because I do not want them to be the vanguard of a black invasion force after discovering a place where white people are happy, productive, and maintain clean, violence free communities. It reminds me of the rural, segregated south where I grew up. I plan to live out the rest of my life here.

    • See The Future

      Thank you for sharing your experience.

  • BlueSonicStreak

    While this is interesting and follows logically, not all human behaviour is logical. Whenever I read comments like this, I really wonder what a wholly honest black response to this would be. Surely you admit this is – at least to some degree – speculation on your part? Or have you had black people say this to you? What would black people on some infallible truth serum say in response?

    The only black race realists I’ve ever talked to have all been highly intelligent, so they would hardly have the average black perspective. I once ran into a black race realist who actually seemed to be only just bright enough to parrot white’s race realist thoughts – nothing original, no analysis of his own. I sent him a polite message asking how he had come to his views, and he unfortunately declined to respond.

  • MarcB1969

    The REAL White privilege we enjoy are the ability to create and maintain civilized, technological societies because of our impulse control, cognition, adventurism, future-time orientation and creativity.

  • UncleSham

    “Most racists are decent, responsible, hard-working people. They care deeply about this country and want to see it remain strong into the future. Racists are often motivated by a desire to see their children and grandchildren grow up in safe and happy communities. The vast majority of racists are law-abiding, productive citizens; it is morally reprehensible to vilify all of them because of the nasty rhetoric of a very small number. Workplace discrimination against racists in this country is a growing problem that needs to be addressed. Shame on the media for making racists feel like they have to hide who they truly are. I am proud to be among the many patriotic Americans that the out-of-touch media class considers racist.”

    Can you imagine what the reaction would be if a politician accused of racism were to make some sort of statement like this?

  • John

    Thanks for the above. Good take on the role TV and the MSM have played in fracturing a workable black/white country similar to what we had prior to integration. The statement “Every generation of blacks born since the 1960s have been marinaded by
    Hollywood to believe in these false notions of racial equality” mirrors my thinking almost precisely. I’ve already decided if a “bruthuh” ever gets up in my face, I’m going to try to talk him back to reality before he goes past the point of no return by informing him that he’s been watching too much TV. Watch the YouTube video “Epic Beard Man” for an example of exactly what I’m referring to. Blacks have so many problems, beginning with their genetic deficiencies, that at this point, they’re a lost cause as far as I’m concerned. Because of the “marinading” process you describe, they’ll never be able to look in the mirror and realize that they are their own worst enemy. The Brews, being past masters at both “victimology” and the “pass the blame game”, trained their understudies well.

  • Paleoconn

    Liberal debating technique: we don’t agree with them so let’s shut them down, do not allow them to assemble or speak their mind.

  • John Smith

    Whitman was no better than a democrat and I’m glad she lost rather than skew the GOP even further left in an attempt to get an even bigger tent.

  • BillMiller66

    “15% of the overall population live below poverty.”

    What do you mean by “poverty”?
    In 2005, the typical household defined as poor by the government had a car and air conditioning. For entertainment, the household had two color televisions, cable or satellite TV, a DVD player, and a VCR. If there were children, especially boys, in the home, the family had a game system, such as an Xbox or a PlayStation. In the kitchen, the household had a refrigerator, an oven and stove, and a microwave. Other household conveniences included a clothes washer, clothes dryer, ceiling fans, a cordless phone, and a coffee maker. In fact, the typical poor American had more living space than the average European.Consumer items that were luxuries or significant purchases for the middle class a few decades ago have become commonplace in poor households. In part, this is caused by a normal downward trend in price following the introduction of a new product. Initially, new products tend to be expensive and available only to the affluent. Over time, prices fall sharply, and the product saturates the entire population, including poor households.

    As a rule of thumb, poor households tend to obtain modern conveniences about a dozen years after the middle class. Today, most poor families have conveniences that were unaffordable to the middle class not too long ago.

    • Raymond Kidwell

      I have worked at these poverty jobs most of my life. I can’t afford to pay rent, buy groceries, or even have a car to get to work. Much less be able to go out and buy air conditioners etc. Most people that have those luxuries are on welfare of some sort or getting help from somebody else. They certainly aren’t buying those things on their $200 a week pay check.

      TVs and other devices are relatively cheap. Rent is something you must pay every month and usually rent in the ghetto is still about 75% of your entire check. Plus you can’t get sick or miss a day unlike at a normal job. If you lived in your car you might be able to make a car payment and insurance using your entire paycheck.

      This is really different from the 1970s when a person could graduate from high school and make decent money in a factory or on a farm. I pretty much do the same kind of work my grandparents did and they were middle class and I can’t afford basic necessities.

      About living space, I rented out rooms that were the size of a closet you could only fit a bed in it. Cost me $100 a week. My check was less than $200 a week for full time hours. The people who are driving caddillacs and have gold teeth etc. the reason for that is usually they are lying on their application and getting welfare from multiple states, disability checks, selling drugs etc.

      Women are also different. All they have to do is pop out babies and get a free house, WIC, food stamps, $5,000 a year EIC credit for a tax return even though they never worked, free education (plus free babysitting at these education places). Minority men to a lesser extent can get some benefits as well.

      It’s crazy because you can work at mcdonalds all year, with people throwing stuff at you, screaming at you, your back hurts, your feet hurt etc. and make $8,000 a year or maybe $12,000 at the top end, or you can just pop out a baby and get a $5,000 tax return, free food evermonth, then food stamps on top of that, which you can sell, then usually rent subsidized or free house from HUD or else habitat for humanity, some programs give them free cars, it’s unbelievable. It doesn’t pay to work at that level. However you have to be a woman, or sometimes minority to get most of those benefits. But even as a white male, it doesn’t pay to work. You might as well just put in the minimal at work and try to get as much benefits as possible. You can work two jobs and still be living homeless.

      But the people who are doing well are getting welfare, usually cheating the system, and probably selling drugs on the side. For instance, a lot of them get medicaid and they can stub their toe and get pain pills for free on the tax dollar, then sell them on the street. I mean if you try to work for a living at the entry level, people on welfare are living better than you. The wages are absurd and raises are almost never given out, if they are its a quarter. Promotion to management etc. is rare because there just isn’t a demand for it. The only logical option would be college, which I did. But I ended up maxing my financial aid out when I was 95% complete with my degree and the head of the program refused to let me take my final classes because she said she “hates men”. And teachers at the school kept saying that all problems in the world were caused by whites, that women are superior to men, and that if there were no men in this world there would be no wars. That’s the kind of absurd behavior I experienced in that environment.

      I would say welfare has kept wages artificially low because otherwise people would have protests and walk outs, form labor unions etc. But the problem with welfare is it is highly sexist and racist. Almost all welfare benefits go to women. What little is left over goes to minorities. You can walk into some of these places and they have signs on the wall that say “we give first priority to women and minorities”. They also have signs on the wall that say “you don’t have to prove citizenship to get food stamps”.

      I ask them to just give me some help getting a college degree so I can be a productive citizen and they don’t seem interested. I then ask law enforcement if they could just enforce basic civil rights laws, such as going after a college that commit fraud and discrimination, then again, I would be ok. I think the break down of basic law and order is a major obstacle as well.

      But anyone who says you can live off of those wages, it’s a joke.