In Northern Ireland, a Wave of Immigrants Is Met With Fists

Douglas Dalby, New York Times, November 28, 2014

More than 16 years after the Good Friday peace deal brought real hope that Protestants and Roman Catholics could live together in relative harmony, Northern Ireland is being racked by another wave of violence.

But this time it is not driven by the sectarian divide, but by animosity toward a fast-growing population of immigrants–adding one more challenge as Europe struggles to cope with the combination of intense economic strain and rapid demographic change.

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The expanding problem appears to be partly racial and partly directed at immigrants of all backgrounds at a time when open borders in the European Union have led more legal migrants to Britain and Ireland in search of work. At the same time, war and economic deprivation have driven waves of legal and illegal migrants toward Europe from Asia, the Middle East and Africa. The more recent immigrants from Eastern Europe and parts of Africa tell stories similar to those of people from China, India and Pakistan who have lived here for decades.

Mohammed Khattack, a 24-year-old Pakistani who arrived in Belfast last year hoping to study humanities after three years in London, got a first warning one night in June when an empty wine bottle shattered the front window of his rented house in north Belfast. When he and his housemate, who is also from Pakistan, began cleaning up the next morning, small groups of neighbors had formed. But they had not come to help–they had come to gloat.

Then one of them began raining blows down on Mr. Khattack amid a tirade of racist slurs.

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The police arrested a 57-year-old man, who was later released on bail. The police told Mr. Khattack that the man had since fled the area.

The official figures and anecdotal evidence indicate that the severity and frequency of attacks in Northern Ireland have increased in recent years.

On average, almost three racial hate crimes a day are reported to the police. Between 2013 and 2014 there was a 43 percent increase in racially motivated offenses, 70 percent of them in Belfast. Immigrant groups assert–and the police concede–that the real figure is much higher, with many attacks going unrecorded because of fear of reprisals or a lack of faith in the justice system.

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The police say paramilitary groups are cynically manipulating xenophobia to gain support in their communities by targeting migrants. In April, a senior police officer, Assistant Chief Constable Will Kerr, said the rise in the number and severity of racial hate crimes in Protestant loyalist areas left “the unpleasant taste of a bit of ethnic cleansing.”

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Although less prevalent, attacks have also taken place in Catholic west Belfast. In June, hundreds of people marched in the area in support of a Nigerian man who was hospitalized after a racist assault. His attackers had also threatened to run over his 2-year-old daughter and burn down his home.

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In Britain, immigrants make up roughly 12.4 percent of the population, compared with 1.8 percent in Northern Ireland. Still, the rate here is higher than the 0.8 percent in 2001, with the bulk of the immigrants coming from Poland after it joined the European Union in 2004.

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  • dmxinc

    So the Irish will stand up for their island. Still don’t think these actions will be nearly enough.

    • B.A_2014

      The propaganda in Northern Ireland is constant. From the news to marches against racism. This disease effects Catholics for the most part. The protestant sections seems to be immune.
      They are classifying any confrontation that involves the diverse ones as racist and most people I talk to know this but what can we do about it, ring the BBC and tell them they are being disingenuous? That is the entire purpose of the BBC.

      • DonReynolds

        The Orangemen are not going to be impressed. That message might play well with the Catholics…..in every country…..but we have the same problem here in the USA.

      • curri

        Maybe because the Protestants identify with hostile-to-diversity Israel. Hey, whatever works! You can get plenty of accurate material on Israeli racism at the left-wing Jewish site, Mondoweiss.

        • kikz2

          better yet… if americans knew . org

  • JackKrak

    Let’s assume that in some bizzarro parallel universe that significant numbers of Irish (or anyone, for that matter) are moving Pakistan to look for work and a better life. Like I said, just imagine.

    Are we supposed to believe that the good people of Pakistan would be happy to welcome these people to their fair land and recognize their right to be there, right to compete with the natives for jobs and right to turn to publicly funded assistance for anything they needed? Are we supposed to believe that there would be a class to official busybodies and their fellow travelers in academia that would rush to provide blanket protection against any nastiness that might come from the less-enlightened locals?

    Please.

    • Peters

      Even worse. The Pakistanis are moving for social benefits, not for work.

    • LHathaway

      If what they say is true, if it really is about universal respect for ‘tolerance’, some non-white nation in this world would have to flood their nation with racial outgroups, and then this would have to continue for a period of time, before we could take seriously claims that what is going on in white nations is ‘tolerance’.

    • Sick of it

      Pakistanis would happily welcome them with a community, or even city-wide, gang-rape.

    • Bryce Armstrong

      Why does anybody need to move anywhere to improve their life? Can’t they improve their life in their own country?

      I thought ” The Thing That Makes America Great” was because they could come here to improve their lives, now I learn they could just as easily go to Ireland to do the same…

      And if they could go to Ireland, Scotland, UK, France, Germany, ect. what reason do they still need us to help?

      • watling

        It would appear that the most attractive countries for migrants happen to have majority white European populations. i.e. USA, UK, Australia, Canada, France, Germany. That is not a coincidence. It just so happens that those of white European stock make the best societies – for all – for many reasons.

        The following question arises: will such countries still be as attractive when they are no longer majority white? I would say: definitely not.

  • IstvanIN

    They talk about the number of immigrants while ignoring the children of said migrants born in Northern Ireland who are suddenly counted as “British” if not Irish. Migrants are like a disease that spreads and spreads unless action is taken to stop it.

    • B.A_2014

      My mongrel cousin is registered as Irish. In my eyes, she is as Irish as a witch doctor. She may only be a child but she is not my family, even if the rest of my family think I am the definition of evil. She is the daughter of an imposter (that left the family only a couple of weeks ago.)

  • Raymond Kidwell

    The difference is poverty and hard life. Most regular people have an easy life. Also they are trained from the time they are in kindergarten to obey authority and be docile. Then they also have female hormones that are in the food. When people are in the military they are taught to be obedient but at least must face some hardship, so some of those people may be aggressive, especially those from real war. But people who experience poverty or real struggle in life grow a set of balls.

    Let’s take the racist experiment in sweden that was posted here. The black guy says he hates whites and bullies a white person. White guy pleads for help and other whites just walk by laughing at him. Do you think this would happen in impoverished appalachia? Maybe to some extent, but there would be a lot more resistance. As well in any poor white area. Could someone bully a white guy like that in prison? Probably the skin heads would jump in? Would someone bully a white person like that in a biker bar with hells angels and such around?

    This is why I think if you had any serious racialist group you would have some type of hardship training or military type training. It’s more about mentality than physical ability. Teach people to be assertive, grow balls etc. That is probably the number one thing leading to white extinction- the de-masculanization of most whites.

    • LHathaway

      There are whites like you describe, and seem to cherish. One who live as minorities in colored area’s often have ‘balls’ as least as you would describe it. There are shabby apartment complexes filled with them. Together they could make up entire cities, if not a state or two of the union. There wouldn’t be too many women among them. Or with them. I think you will find White extinction is progressing much more rapidly there than it is elsewhere.

  • Mary

    In other bright and cheery news, the contamination of my ancestral homeland by third world riff-raff continues apace. These people no more belong in Britain or Ireland than zoo animals belong in a cathedral.

    • Michigan Patriot

      Only at the Creche’ at Christmas time; can I still say Christmas ? ?

      • saxonsun

        Related to that–instead of just Christmas and Hanukkah decorations at the NYC college where I teach, we are now treated to some silly Muslim symbol. What the heck does Islam have to do with this season?!

  • Gee whiz, immigrants are 25 percent of the population of Switzerland and those idiots voted Saturday to keep the floodgates open.

    I remember how the Irish used to be prize fighters back in the day, even before I was born. They were the tough guys nobody messed with. My fondest hope is that they keep up the opposition to immigration and thus save themselves. And also provide a role model for other European nations.

    • See The Future

      The Swiss are indeed idiots if that is in fact true.

      • SentryattheGate

        I was hoping that the Swiss became aware of the problem of mass immigration when several years ago the Muslim immigrants there demanded that the Swiss change their national flag because they were offended by the cross on it! If that’s not a “red flag” about immigration, then what is?

    • mobilebay

      I thought the Irish would rather drink than fight…I can say that because three of my four g-grandparent’s came from the Emerald Isle.

      • mobilebay

        Sorry, no apostrophe needed on g-grandparents.

      • Most of us would rather drink than fight. Celts don’t usually have the sheer stubbornness of the English or the organization of the Germans. I still have nightmares about a firefight in a stairwell. I was just lucky. I’d have been blinded by flying chips of concrete if I wasn’t wearing eyeglasses, and then I’d have been taking the big dirt-nap for the last 23 years. Something hit my face and scaled off part of the right lens of my glasses. I got a bit dinged up: my head, my left leg, both arms and my left hand: I wore a flak jacket.

        I wasn’t fearless. I was plenty scared. I was also very often drunk. I threw some of the Chenik wounded down three floors over the railing, while I yelled “ni&&er down”.

        We prefer drinking to fighting, and I had to stay sober most times, but drinking and fighting at the same time is not really a bother.

        I like being mainly Celtic, but this is perhaps mainly because I am used to it.

  • libertarian1234

    Good lord.

    The NYT reporting on opposition to leftist ideology is nothing more than a one-sided account of half-truths, obfuscations and outright lies.

    It’s really not worth reading for anybody who wants an unbiased account and to know what the truth of the matter is.

  • JustJeff

    In other news, throwing gasoline on a fire makes it worse.

  • Yves Vannes

    “Keep Ireland for the Irish not for London or for Rome.” Scratch that.

    “Keep Ireland for the Irish not for Lahore or for Rome.” Doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.

  • Tarczan

    The NYT publishes a story about the harrassment of this man, but nothing about white genocide in South Africa or the slaughter of thousands of Christians in Syria.

    • Or even about Pakistani trash raping white girls in England.

      • Michigan Patriot

        — and your point is ? ?

        • I was a local news story only after 14 years, my dear friend, in which over a thousand young girls were victimized. Did we hear about it in the USA via the main news network talking heads? No, we did not.

          Straight down George Orwell’s “Memory Hole” on Airstrip One, but it just missed.

    • Michigan Patriot

      — and your point is ? ? We be fu-ked ! Stick a fork into it, we’re done ! Marxist , anti-West dogma has won !

      • FinnShane

        I have a better idea of where you can stick your fork troll.

  • Sick of it

    “In April, a senior police officer, Assistant Chief Constable Will Kerr,
    said the rise in the number and severity of racial hate crimes in
    Protestant loyalist areas left “the unpleasant taste of a bit of ethnic
    cleansing.””

    Yes, let’s ignore the fact that population replacement/amalgamation is ethnic cleansing. According to the United Nations no less!

  • Whitesneedtobebrave

    At least the irish have bigger balls than the Brits, the French or the Americans.

    • Ringo Lennon

      More guts than the Brits, the French or the Americans. You don’t want to be vulgar like a black dude. We’re coarsening as a nation.

      • Whitesneedtobebrave

        It’s the truth Ringo. Sometimes we have to treat like with like.

      • During World War One, the British Army considered the Scots and Irish as particularly good at attacking heavily defended positions. I don’t know whether that says more about us or the English.

    • Eagle_Eyed

      Some do. Sinn Fein (the political party for old IRA members) is pro third world immigration.

      • B.A_2014

        Unfortunately this is true. Most old IRA men like the ones in my family didn’t care for the socialist politics and the opening up the floodgates to Africa and Asia so they left the movement in disgust. Those in Sinn Fein today are of the Marxist persuasion. In west Belfast, the locals are overjoyed that we are being blessed with all this diversity. At the front of the Catholic part of the city centennial, a sign reads “where diversity begins.”

        • IstvanIN

          So it was OK to kill Protestants, British troops and a member of the Royal Family but Africans are welcome with open arms? What a nutty world.

          • B.A_2014

            Protestant and British soldiers killed many Catholics before the IRA even formed. But you are right in that respect. Both communities despise each other, even though most protestants have Irish ancestry and visa versa. It’s a sad situation to be in and a very lonely place for a racially conscious white man. The protestants wouldn’t want my like in their various right wing groups even though my ancestry is mostly British, it would be suicidal to even contemplate doing such a thing.

          • Many Protestants in Ireland are Scots, which is why they are Presbyterian Protestants, and not Anglican Church, and one would have difficulty finding two peoples who are more closely related than those two. I am not religious, but I have lived long enough to believe that it is a complete shame. My ex-father was a failed Catholic, and my mother is a failed Methodist. I was never baptised.
            The English think we Celtic Yanks worship money. We’re even better on that score than Jews.

            You can’t save everyone; I tried. Almost every bright guy I knew in federal prison went back. Was this a crushing defeat? No. My mother and then my wife saved me, and some of the guys made it off paper.

            There’s more to life than that hardship. You’d be welcome to dinner here in Colorado Springs anytime. An August evening out on the patio with the thunderstorm blowing east, the hibachi cooking fish and home-brewed hard cider.

            Forgive them for your own sake.

          • Charlie

            The Irish, though they are Aryans, are a very hard nut to crack…for starters, for centuries the English erroneously considered the Irish to be non-White, even up until the early 20th century in America, they were discriminated against…in the early days of colonial America, the Irish were lumped in with the Blacks, and miscegenation inevitably resulted…it got so bad, that, anti-miscegenation laws had to be promulgated in the mid-17th century…if there were a detailed list of all the White female race mixers, the overwhelming majority of them would have Irish ancestry…

          • An occupying army is supposed to expect that sort of thing.

          • IstvanIN

            Northern Ireland is an integral part of the United Kingdom and British troops are not occupiers.

        • See The Future

          slavery follows

        • That was my impression as I grew older; the PIRA became more communist and less Irish.

    • There’s an old saying about that sort of thing: “The Englishman fights when he must, the Scotsman because he honestly likes it, and the Irishman because he doesn’t know any better.” Of course, that is an English joke. I am a mixed Celt, mainly Irish, Scottish and Welsh, with Cherokee, Tuscarora and German. Sadly, the only ethnic stereotype I lack is the German talent for organization. The German probably got diluted out too much. I make decorative wooden storage boxes with fitted compartments and lift-out trays for things that belong together, and thus marital happiness results.

      I like being organized. Unfortunately, I remember where everything is, but nobody else possibly can, so I cheat, and make things easy for everyone around me. This saves me a lot of explaining.

      We’re all the same people, though some white folks live a bit closer to the bone than the usual North Americans.

      • Bobbala

        I always thought the german “organization” was overrated. The real key to Hitler’s genius was that he let his subordinates know what made him happy and let them worry about the details. This freedom made them extremely competitive and creative. Homicidal maybe, but still inventive and effective.

        It’s when he got “hands on” that the wheels came off the 3rd Reich.

  • Whitesneedtobebrave

    No I am sure some irish jew or white libs in Ireland or maybe the American israeli Jewess Barbara Specter who wants Europe to be multiculturalized (See youtube video) will come there and say that the irish fighting for their homes is racist,.

  • DaveMed

    While this kind of behavior is not ideal, what are our alternatives, at this point?

    • phillyguy

      it’s the only recourse the white race has left.

    • Ultimate187

      There’s something unsettling about a country marketing itself to immigrants and then attacking them once they arrive. It’s basically peddling false dreams. The real people the locals should be going after are the ones opening the gates.

      • UncleSham

        Ideally we would be going after the people who are responsible for allowing the immigrants to enter, but that is not usually possible. It may not seem just to attack the immigrants themselves, but if that’s our only option, we should take it. We can not sit around waiting for the ideal situation for us to take action. (I’m not Irish, I say “we” because I am White.)

  • Ireland for the Irish.

    Northwestfront(dot)org

  • J.Till

    Something tells me there’s a back story to this incident with Mr. Khattack that we’re not hearing about. Knowing Pakis, he probably assaulted someone’s sister or daughter. Anyway, good for Ireland. They need to find out who the traitors in their government are and start throwing things through their windows.

    • B.A_2014

      There was rumours he tried to entice some local girls back to his place. They are rumours. Maybe they were just angry locals that don’t want his type in the area. I don’t go to that area unless it’s for a family gathering, maybe twice a year and when I asked my aunt about it, she said the rumours weren’t true and they were the victims of white racism but I expect to hear that nonsense from a 70yr old Christian libtard.

  • Please keep your country pure. Even if it’s a sh!thole, it’s your sh!thole.

    • B.A_2014

      Sh!thole?

      The lowest crime rates and the most educated people in the UK. Believe me, I know my people aren’t perfect but I live in a country that is anything but a shithole.

      • DonReynolds

        Nothing has changed in human history. You can live anywhere, as long as you are willing to keep others from taking it from you. They will want your place and you must be willing to “insist” on keeping it for yourself and your children. Otherwise, you will be chased from county to county, in search of a place nobody else wants.

        • SentryattheGate

          I said something similar to a Catholic priest at a pro-amnesty immigration conference; he replied that “what I was proposing was similar to “incest”!

          • UncleSham

            I suppose you can’t expect a man who has made a commitment to never reproduce to care about a people’s genetic future.

      • My only complaint about Ireland is that it rains too much there.

      • newscomments70

        Good for you, and take it back from the Africans and the communists. Don’t let them desecrate your homeland.

  • DonReynolds

    He He…..My relatives in Northern Ireland simply will not be overrun by anyone.
    Nothing new folks, move along.
    Return to your homes.
    Everything is fine.

  • See The Future

    The British Isles are lost. It is too late. Just to sit back and watch the show!

    • Charles Martel

      I read yesterday that the most popular name for newborn boys in the UK is Mohammed

      Can you hear me now??

      • We need a modern incarnation of your namesake.

      • Katherine McChesney

        It has been Mohammed for several years.

  • mike smith

    3 attacks a day simply will not suffice.

  • Aposleman

    Ireland does not need immigrants. It does not meet the Utopian credentials for mass immigration.

  • Steven Barr

    Sinn Fein/IRA are in favour of the invasion as are the Unionist establishment. The Loyalist gangs, however much I dislike them for their drug dealing and racketeering are the only ones standing up for Ulster.

  • TonyWestfield

    I’ve never understood why it is axiomatic that people who belong to a nation/state that is under stress (natural disaster, war, overpopulation, famine, economic calamity) automatically deserve the privilege to relocate to a nation/state that is viable. In most cases, the stress or failure is CAUSED by the people themselves, if not immediately, then over the longer course of time. The primary factor is CULTURE. Just one example, why bring the failure of Somalia to America (or Europe) in the form of Somalia’s people? Even natural disaster, the most legitimate excuse for failure because the people didn’t “cause” it, deserves a deeper look: Following the tsunami and the Fukushima disaster, there is no mass migration of Japanese people knocking on the doors of other countries…and why? Culture. General rule of thumb: If they come knocking, those are the people you DON’T want to invite into your home.

    • J.Till

      The primary factor is GENES. Not culture.

      • They are inextricably linked. Genes determine culture.

    • Charles Martel

      I feel the same way when Iraqis or Afghans want to come to the U.S. They should stay put and try and fix their godforsaken mess of a country!

      While this is true for all Third Worlders, I think it applies particularly to those two countries since billions of American dollars and thousand of American lives have been expended to achieve that goal.

  • Michigan Patriot

    Always the White Christian has to make the economic, cultural sacrifice that allowing diverse, non-assimilation, more often inferior culture into their mist; it is never expected or will occur for the opposite sacrifice to be made. Israel wants non-diversity but their Jewish brothers & sisters demand it of any predominately White Christian nation that they live in; what demographic hypocrites ! They don’t get exposed by the media because they own it everywhere. they won’t throw themselves under the bus like Christian politicians do to us.

  • God bless and keep the Irish!

  • UncleSham

    Since when is attempting to keep an area the same race as it has been for the last thousand plus years “ethnic cleansing?”

  • KenelmDigby

    I don’t particularly like to say this, but these Ulstermen have the right instincts.
    If, for example, the general English population managed to drive out the first wave of third world invaders in the 1960s by the use of terror, violence and dire threats, then Rotherham would never have happened, the 2011 Mark Duggan riots would never have happened, the 2005 London tube bombings would never have happened etc etc.

    On another note, I’m pretty sure that Irishmen actually living in Ireland have a strong, in-built antagonistic instinct towards foreigners and outsiders of all types. They are an island people with a very strong culture of their own, who haven’t really been disturbed by outsiders for centuries, if you discount the British. Instinctively, they see foreigners, all foreigners as a threat to themselves.

    • It’s a healthy instinct and one we should try to encourage among our own people.

  • Well, they have to leave school eventually.

  • Get back to us in a year or three once you’ve been forced out of yet another neighborhood because of the creeping black undertow. Congratulations on finding employment; I sincerely hope you aren’t replaced by a substandard import, like so many others in this once great country have been.

  • Bryce Armstrong

    I think it speaks volume to the immigrants industriousness , that instead of fixing problems they simply leave.

    I would never leave this country.

    Does anybody think these people would stick around if things got really bad. Is shiftlessness a virture?

    This certainaly seems to be the libertarian view who favor this almost nomadic existence. To them there are no borders, just one homogeneous state.

    “If there was a country better then the United States I’d move there in a heartbeat”-Glenn Beck