Is Beauty in the Eye(lid) of the Beholder?

Kat Chow, NPR, November 17, 2014

“So your crease is up here, so it’s probably about a 6-millimeter crease,” plastic surgeon Dr. Laura Phan tells me in her office. “It’s very nice, um, for Asian eyes,” she says, hesitating over that last descriptor. Phan points to the inner corner of one of my eyes as I hold a small, plastic mirror. “It’s more pronounced on your right side,” she says, referring to my epicanthic folds.

Having this crease means I have double eyelids. Among people of East Asian descent, about half share this trait, along with most of the world’s non-Asian people. The other half of the world’s Asian population has monolids.

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There’s a surgery you can have to get double eyelids, and that itself is controversial. It’s called an Asian blepharoplasty, the Asian part referring to who gets it, the blepharoplasty part referring to more general eyelid surgery. While the procedure is generally cosmetic, it’s really important to stress that there are medical reasons why people seek Asian blepharoplasties–their lids are too heavy and obstruct vision, for instance.

According to the American Society Of Plastic Surgeons, it’s one of the most common surgeries for Asians in the U.S. In 2013, 6.2 percent of procedures Asians sought were blepharoplasties. (Overall, women of color have been getting plastic surgery at increasing rates, ASPS president Dr. Scot Glasberg tells me. Costs–and stigmas against getting plastic surgery–have minimized.) But these numbers aren’t necessarily precise, I’m told by Joanne Rondilla, a lecturer at Arizona State University who has researched race and cosmetic surgery. Rondilla, who worked as a makeup artist for more than a decade, says it’s hard to measure how many people go to nonboard-certified surgeons, or head to Asia, where plastic surgery is in general more prolific and less expensive.

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‘The Curse Is Being Removed’

In February 1895, an unnamed special correspondent for the Los Angeles Times wrote about this surgery in Japan.

“In their efforts to acquire recognition in the civilized world, the Japanese have found their greatest barrier in the unmistakable mark of their Mongolian origin,” writes the unnamed author. “The prejudice against Mongolians is undeniable, and among the Japs, the slanted eye being its only evidence, the curse is being removed.”

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Moving farther through the 20th century, much of plastic surgery’s modern rise can be tied to war: It was born as a way to fix disfigurements from combat. Experts also point to World War II–and American and European militarization of Asian countries–as the driving force that helped make cosmetic surgery more pervasive elsewhere.

Look to the 1960s in Vietnam, and you’ll see newspaper reports that indicate the needle was swinging toward plastic surgery because of American occupation there. A Time interview with two Vietnamese surgeons says Vietnamese bar girls sought blepharoplasties to catch the eye of American soldiers.

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On the CBS show The Talk last year, host Julie Chen revealed that she’d had the surgery earlier in her career. Chen recalled something an old boss told her when she was a TV reporter cutting her teeth at an Ohio news station. “He said . . . because of your heritage, because of your Asian eyes,” Chen said, “sometimes I’ve noticed that when you’re on camera and you’re interviewing someone, you look disinterested.” (Chen notes that her career took off after she changed her eyes.)

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  • benvad

    Korean pure race nation, those weirdos give each other new heads for Christmas.

    • Magician

      The number of occurrences of the term “Korea” or “Korean” in the article above : 0

      You sound like a guy who attends a Red Sox VS Yankees game at Fenway and shout, “Go Orioles!”

      • benvad

        The reason I mentioned them is that they’ve corned the market on cosmetic surgery and give Argentina a run for its money.

        I’ve read articles that students can’t get employment (mostly women) after Uni if the keep their natural looks.

        Read up about it, it’s real mind blowing.

        • Bossman

          That is correct. Koreans regard this as a defect that needs to be fixed. When a Korean child is born, the parents will set up 2 funds; one for college and the other for double eyelid surgery.

  • B.A_2014

    As a lover of Japanese cinema I am well aware that there is beautiful women among them. But how could anyone even compare them to European women, at least physically. The Chinese plague that has engulfed Ulster has brought a horde of the ugliest creatures on earth.

    • benvad

      Even worse than Nigerians?

      • B.A_2014

        Well let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

    • Ultimate187

      It depends on who you ask around here.

    • Bossman

      Worst than being ugly is that they are vapid creatures who don’t smile much.

      • StillModerated

        But they sure like to titter when they’re nervous.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    “In their efforts to acquire recognition in the civilized world, the Japanese have found their greatest barrier in the unmistakable mark of their Mongolian origin,”

    I’ll bet that if you’ll look into it closely, you’ll find that Mongolians have wanted to get rid of their Mongolian look a lot longer ago than just since 1895. Probably since the days of Marco Polo and beyond.

    • Anna Tree

      I think Asian men and women should never feel bad about the way they look. The same way that we whites should be proud and possessive of our genetic heritage, our special white traits and see them as our race treasures, I think Asians should (continue to) be proud of their genetic heritage and special traits, like I presume their ancestors for thousands of years did before.

      There is a reason for the epicanthal fold, or the variant wouldn’t have catch on. It’s needed in the cold and bright North (same for the Norvegian, it’s sad in my opinion what Renee Zellweger did to her own eye lids) or possibly it just come pair with anothe important allele. Racial/ethnic pride is healthy. Healthy race realism brings healthy race relations. I believe it was more like that, before the scourge of that
      desire of whole world sameness and global uniformity, that idolization of Hollywood, in this instance of the whites features (that should be only to whites): that unhealthy idolization kills the whites right now with miscegenation and mass-immigration and harms other races (as they can not turn white, it’s not biologically possible), like a pathological passion, a destructive relationship.

      I am originally against diversity in the micro because I am against violence. (I think multiracialism and multiculturalism trigger frictions and so I prefer separation. It doesn’t have to be absolute but almost it seems and clear about the reasons.)

      But the issue at hand points to another problem: I found many bi-racial children suffering from this. The loss of identity and healthy pride of one’s ancestry, look, origins. The same way I am telling my children that I want my grand-children to look like me, like them, I hope for every race members to have those feelings for their own kids.

      Racial plastic surgery or immitation is not only the disease of those East Asians, or of the blacks who whiten their skins. Whites also do some kind of alteration too, like when they tan or rap etc

      We shouldn’t forget that most of our traits are very important, fruits of thousands of years of evolution, in different climates and environments, from different mutations and adaptations and different hominin mates.

      Obviously stature, the nasal ridge, the epicanthic fold etc have evolutionary reasons, and maybe are better, needed or essential to living in the areas East Asians etc are from. Yes maybe there are not needed if one lives in New York, but who knows the future… Asians will one day go back to Asia, Africans to Africa etc For example blacks have more skin cancer because their skin is not well adapted to colder, less sunny countries. They need more sun. Whites and fair Chinese are also not adapted to sunny countries but maybe it is easier as they can wear hats and long sleeves.

      “Eons of isolated breeding gave rise to no significant genomic differences.
      The organisms are suited to the environment in which they evolved. Environmental displacement often produces difficulties for such organisms.”

      ————

      The plastic surgery, the tanning, the whitening etc remind me of circumcision. It is not genital or frowned upon or drastic, but it is still a mutilation to please one’s
      god, this god being the god of the melting pot, more precisely the god of the pressure cooker, the god of the religion of one race, the mixing of all races to get one blend brown man and woman.

      Worse with the gender theory, soon to be one brown human with no gender and eventually not human either:
      radixjournal com/journal/2014/9/26/thats-ms-potato-head-to-you

      Mutilation, another religious-like characteristic of the new albeit secular religion of liberal leftism….

      —–
      “To believe in the present day state religion of racial equality requires a belief in miracles and faith just like any other religion. We have the miracle that all branches of the human race are equal unlike any other species on earth. We have the new devils and demons in the form of the White male. We have the new saints in the form of mlk, trayvon, and Nelson Mandela. We have an inquisition of which the scientific establishment is a part. We have the new original sin which
      is simply being White. A heretic is anyone who challenges the faith and is liable to have their careers and lives ruined. The church never went away, it just has a new god now” and changed its name.

      More religious-like characteristics:

      Salvation:
      Whites need salvation through non-white immigration implies we were in danger, needed help and/or needed to be rescued.
      amren com/news/2013/02/multiculturalisms-here-to-stay-so-lets-embrace-it-and-look-to-the-future

      Blind faith:
      It doesn’t always revolve around a god… Today blind faith revolve around liberal leftist dogmas, like wealth redistribution like affirmative action or the tax to reverse the human global warming (oops climate change), diversity is a strength, islam is a religion of peace, Dalai Lama is a saint, races/sexes don’t exist/are a social construct, multiculturalism is our salvation, hom0sessuality is innate, affirmative action is not racism, “no child behind” is good for all etc etc

      Martyrdom:
      Liberal leftists are willing to die for their faith/dogmas, or maybe more correctly, the “priests” (politicians, journalists, elites) are ready for their flock to die : diversity triggers violence and wars, and miscegenation is suicide: mixed marriage kills half of one’s genes and one’s image (your descendants are different from you).

      Rejection of previous beliefs:
      It’s Abraham smashing the idols all over again: this time whites being the false gods: white idols have to be destroyed to give place to the new/”real” gods: the Non-white. White inventions are in fact non-white inventions. Liberal leftists can redeem themselves by brainwashing their kids to miscegenate or at least adopt non-white children to take white children’s place. The martyrs are not those beaten by blacks or muslims (that’s a natural consequences of the whites’ actions and discrimination of course), their best saints and martyrs commit cultural and/or racial suicide willingly, by only helping, converting, adopting or marrying other races for the glory of the faith. If not then the least is to promote all of this strongly, by brainwashing new victims or giving money to the cause. One changes his appearance to not look like his ancestors.

      Liberalists may not be ready to be tortured, executed or kill directly but they will have no children, adopt non-white children or miscegenate, same result, and are very ready for others to be tortured or executed: their actions will put others in harm (in elections, wealth distribution, through work – from the judge who free
      illegal immigrant criminals to the teacher who brainwash our kids, etc), usually poorer whites who don’t have the money to live in white neighborhoods or send their kids in white schools etc, notably because their jobs were outsourced to non-white countries by… liberal leftism or taken by non-white immigrants and illegals.

      More religious-like characteristics:
      Alms to non-whites, pathological altruism, evangelism, new world view, new

      • Anna Tree

        Sorry, I don’t succeed to edit my post to improve my English and finish my last sentence…

        I will spare you with what I improved but here is the last sentence:
        new institutions or converting existing, universities as the new churches, new morals, quasi witch hunts/inquisitions of dissidents and heretics, censuring of their books etc…

    • Anna Tree

      I think Asian men and women should never feel bad about the way they look. The same way that we whites should be proud and possessive of our genetic heritage, our special white traits and see them as our race treasures, I think Asians should (continue to) be proud of their genetic heritage and special traits, like I presume their ancestors for thousands of years did before.

      There is an evolutionary reason for the epicanthal fold, or the variant wouldn’t have catch on. It’s needed in the cold and bright North (same for the Norvegians for example, it’s sad in my opinion what Renee Zellweger did to her own ethnic eye lids) or possibly it accompany another important allele/gene.

      Racial/ethnic pride is healthy. Healthy race realism brings healthy race relations. I believe it was more like that, before the scourge of that dangerous/suicidal desire of whole world sameness and global uniformity, that idolization of Hollywood, in this instance of the whites features (that I love, don’t get me wrong, but that should only be to whites): that unhealthy idolization kills the whites right now with miscegenation and mass-immigration and harms other races (as they can not turn white, it’s not biologically possible), like a pathological passion, a destructive relationship.

      I am originally against diversity in the micro because I am against violence. (I think multiracialism and multiculturalism trigger frictions and so I prefer separation. It doesn’t have to be absolute but almost it seems and clear about the reasons.) But the issue at hand points to another problem: I found many bi-racial children suffering from this. The loss of identity and healthy pride of one’s ancestry, look, origins. The same way I am telling my children that I want my grand-children to look like me, like them, I hope for every race members to have those feelings for their own kids (because I think this benefits the whites.)

      Racial plastic surgery or imitation is not only done by Asians, or by blacks when they whiten their skins: Whites also do some kind of alteration, like when they tan or rap etc

      We shouldn’t forget that most of our traits are very important, fruits of thousands of years of evolution, in different climates and environments, from different mutations and adaptations and different hominin mates. Obviously stature, the nasal ridge, the epicanthic fold etc have evolutionary reasons, and maybe are better, needed or essential to living in the areas East Asians etc are from. Yes maybe there are not needed if one lives in New York, but who knows the future… Asians will one day go back to Asia, Africans to Africa etc For example blacks have more skin cancer because their skin is not well adapted to colder, less sunny countries. They need more sun. Whites and fair Chinese are also not adapted to sunny countries but maybe it is easier as they can wear hats and long sleeves. “Eons of isolated breeding gave rise to no significant genomic differences. The organisms are suited to the environment in which they evolved. Environmental displacement often produces difficulties for such organisms.”

      ————

      The plastic surgery, the tanning, the whitening etc remind me of circumcision. It is not genital or frowned upon or drastic, but it is still a mutilation to please one’s
      god, this god being the god of the pressure cooker, a.k.a. melting pot, the god of the religion of one race, the mixing of all races to get one blend brown human.

      Worse with the gender theory, soon to be one brown human with no gender and eventually not human either:
      radixjournal com/journal/2014/9/26/thats-ms-potato-head-to-you

      Mutilation, another religious-like characteristic of the new albeit secular religion of liberal leftism….

      —–
      “To believe in the present day state religion of racial equality requires a belief in miracles and faith just like any other religion. We have the miracle that all branches of the human race are equal unlike any other species on earth. We have the new devils and demons in the form of the White male. We have the new saints in the form of mlk, trayvon, and Nelson Mandela. We have an inquisition of which the scientific establishment is a part. We have the new original sin which is simply being White. A heretic is anyone who challenges the faith and is liable to have their careers and lives ruined. The church never went away, it just has a new god now” and changed its name.

      More religious-like characteristics:

      Salvation:
      Whites need salvation through non-white immigration implies we were in danger, needed help and/or needed to be rescued.
      amren com/news/2013/02/multiculturalisms-here-to-stay-so-lets-embrace-it-and-look-to-the-future

      Blind faith:
      It doesn’t always revolve around a god… Today blind faith revolve around liberal leftist dogmas, like wealth redistribution like affirmative action or the tax to reverse the human global warming (oops climate change), diversity is a strength, islam is a religion of peace, Dalai Lama is a saint, races/sexes don’t exist/are a social construct, multiculturalism is our salvation, hom0sessuality is innate, affirmative action is not racism, “no child behind” is good for all etc etc

      Martyrdom:
      Liberal leftists are willing to die for their faith/dogmas, or maybe more correctly, the “priests” (politicians, journalists, elites) are ready for their flock to die : diversity triggers violence and wars, and miscegenation is suicide: mixed marriage kills half of one’s genes and one’s image (your descendants are different from you).

      Rejection of previous beliefs:
      It’s Abraham smashing the idols all over again: this time whites being the false gods: white idols have to be destroyed to give place to the new/”real” gods: the Non-white. White inventions are in fact non-white inventions. Liberal leftists can redeem themselves by brainwashing their kids to miscegenate or at least adopt non-white children to take white children’s place. The martyrs are not those beaten by blacks or muslims (that’s a natural consequences of the whites’ actions and discrimination of course), their best saints and martyrs commit cultural and/or racial suicide willingly, by only helping, converting, adopting or marrying other races for the glory of the faith. If not then the least is to promote all of this strongly, by brainwashing new victims or giving money to the cause. One changes his appearance to not look like his ancestors.

      Liberalists may not be ready to be tortured, executed or kill directly but they will have no children, adopt non-white children or miscegenate, same result, and are very ready for others to be tortured or executed: their actions will put others in harm (in elections, wealth distribution, through work – from the judge who free
      illegal immigrant criminals to the teacher who brainwash our kids, etc), usually poorer whites who don’t have the money to live in white neighborhoods or send their kids in white schools etc, notably because their jobs were outsourced to non-white countries by… liberal leftism or taken by non-white immigrants and illegals.

      More religious-like characteristics:
      Alms to non-whites (pathological altruism), evangelism, new world view, new institutions or converting existing, universities as the temples, new morals, quasi witch hunts/inquisitions of dissidents and heretics, censuring of their books etc…

    • Ultimate187

      Epicanthal folds are an evolutionary adaptation to extreme cold. It isn’t a barrier and the Japanese have nothing to prove.

  • Rhialto

    FWIW, Asian women have Asian eyes, which I find attractive. Why change a good thing?

    • Magician

      “FWIW, Asian women have Asian eyes, which I find attractive. Why change a good thing?”

      Just curious, do you find this face attractive?

      And I definitely recall that a few days ago, when a white woman said, “I find Asian men attractive” and the response was,

      “Do you have any idea how insulting that comment is on a white, race-realist website?”

      And here is another poster who clearly stated “I find Asian woman attractive.”

      And I am curious how other AmRen posters will respond to this post.

      • Not for me. The one on top seems a bit better, but perhaps because of her more aquiline nose and fairer complexion. If she’d let her hair down, she’d look quite nice.

        • The Worlds Scapegoat

          I thought they were both the same person.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            They are both Lucy Liu.

          • Magician

            Yes both Liu

        • FinnShane

          I think she looks better in the first photo since she has thick lashes. In the second photo they aren’t as visible. In other words, false lashes.

        • pcmustgo

          I’ve actually seen a lot of asian women prettier than Lucy Liu… on average, they are pretty attractive and “perfect” looking in that glossy way.

      • 2eRep

        I find them attractive, I spent 30 years in Asia and knew many beautiful women there. I would take an Asian over a lot of self-serving, “it’s all about me”, greedy white women I have known in the US and Europe. I’m about as American as you can get except for the 5 years spent working for the French
        government singing Le Boudin and wearing a white hat.

      • Ike Eichenberg

        Racially conscious men have more forgiveness for other men spreading their genetics to Asian women, but are more, lets say protective of the white female genetics being mixed with outsiders.

        There is a rational explanation having to do with the far greater ability for men to spread their genetics.

        Every white female that has a mixed race baby is a lost opportunity to spread “pure” white genetics, whereas a male can spread his DNA outside the race without depriving his race of a reproductive opportunity.

        • benvad

          Well in those cases their spawn usually has to be state supported and is a burden on society.

        • Bossman

          “Stunningly attractive” only if you like vapid doll-like creatures with no “T” and no “A”—–without womanly curves. Note well that the most winners in recent Miss Universe Contests have been sexy Latinas from all parts of Latin America.

          • Ike Eichenberg

            De gustibus non est disputandum.
            But vapid and Asian women? that is not an adjective I would use to describe them as a group.

            An unfiltered google image search of appropriate key words would find plenty of curvy Asians, but yes they do tend to be slimmer.

            There are a lot of genetics mingling around Latin America, and there are certainly some extremely beautiful women from those parts.

          • none of your business

            Plenty of White women have womanly curves. Read something other than Vogue and Harper’s Bazaar. Latin American beauty contest winners are as tall and slim as the Americans. I remember your posts that American White women are too fat.

      • [Guest]

        >>>And I am curious how other AmRen posters will respond to this post.

        I’m so fed up with the elevation of people of other races and the demeaning of my race that I don’t care to hear anything positive, no matter how superficial, about any race but my own.

      • UncleSham

        That woman’s post was offensive because she implied she would leave her husband after she was done using him for his genetics and presumably his money. That she fantasized about leaving him for a non-White just made it worse.

        White women set the standard of beauty. The attractive Asian women are the ones who look more European than average. While a very small minority of White men may prefer Asian women aesthetically, I think the attraction is more often based on the fact that many men are looking for more traditional, submissive type women. Many people stereotype White American women as being raging feminists, which most men simply would rather not deal with.

      • De Doc

        Both are pics of Lucy Liu. Not an unattractive Asian woman, but not my cup of tea. Her complexion is a bit off for me.

      • Rhialto

        “Just curious, do you find this face attractive?”

        Certainly not repulsive!
        My attitude is that phoniness is never attractive. Enhancing or preserving naural appearance is another matter. For example, your past and (future?) co-president’s massive cosmetic surgical overhauls have had a positive effect on her appearance.

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

        20 years ago when my little brain ruled over me and wanted to nail anything that resembled a female, I would have said yes. Today I say NO.

        Even back then, I found white woman more attractive. The problem was that a lot of white woman either didn’t like white men or they liked the big stupid bully type.

        .

      • Malgus

        Well, she’s not unattractive… but still can’t hold a candle to European females..

        Besides, I favor blondes. My wife bears a striking resemblance to Anna Torv… ‘cept my wife has pale blue eyes.

        Go figure.

      • David Ashton

        The top one is quite beautiful, but not one with whom I would ever wish to mate. There are some pure west African negro females who look beautiful in their own way, ditto. It seems a modern idea that one is somehow entitled to “have sex” with anyone else, irrespective of racial considerations.

        • Korean guy

          • Guest

            Korean guy – Is that South Korean woman a thousand times more lovely than Lucy Liu? Yes but don’t think a woman’s physical beauty can forever make a man happy. I am starting to feel that one of the big reasons many white women go for Asian women, even if she isn’t necessarily attractive, is because of those asian Americans women’s inner beauty that they can no longer find in modern “I am the queen” western women

            (But then again if white men are attracted to Asians for their inner beauty, then I wonder why we see fewer Asian men – white women couples)

  • pcmustgo

    Asian women can have very beautiful eyes, especially when they doll them up with eyeshadow, which they are usually very good at doing.

    • Magician

      Praises for Asian women continue in this AmRen entry. I wonder how others will respond to those praises for Asian women.

  • I got some fragments near my right eye that caused it to droop a bit, but I wouldn’t want my wife to have herself surgically mutilated.

  • Bossman

    Even after their surgery, they will not look white. They will not even look Hispanic. Hispanic women, on the other hand, can pass for white if they are light-skinned.

    • Anglokraut

      Light skin doesn’t change bone structure, Bossman. Mestizos can’t hide those Amerind cheeks that they so often have.

      • Bossman

        A lot of beautiful women have high cheek bones if that is you mean by “cheeks.” Note well that American Indians have less slanted eyes and less flat noses than East Asians, that is why a Mestizo can pass for white whereas someone who is half East Asian will still look significantly East Asian.

        • Anglokraut

          I was referring to that broad, flat look that characterizes the face of so many Mestizos–big, full cheeks draped off of high, Amerind cheekbones. ‘Dem bones don’t lie.

      • none of your business

        High cheekbones are beautiful on any race. it is the grapefruit located between the cheekbone and jaw on both sides of the face that is so ugly.

    • none of your business

      Asian women do not have eye surgery so as to look White. They just think the round eye is more attractive. Some of the highest paid models in Japan used to be the daughters of Japanese women and White American servicemen.

      • Bossman

        So the highest paid Japanese models were half white? It means that they want to look white.

  • TruthBeTold

    Over 100 years ago, Asians recognized that Whites were more attractive.

    This is important because it’s pre-PC and pre-identity politics. This is how they really feel.

    • Ultimate187

      I doubt they think whites are more attractive. Eyelid surgery is only done by a small minority of Asians and it’s almost always women requesting it, never men.

  • IstvanIN

    Why is it anyone’s business (other than a spouse or family) but the person who wants to have the surgery? If someone wants to look better, or see better, let them be. Live and let live.

    • Ultimate187

      Frankly, I’m not sure why they chose to post this article.

      • Raymond Kidwell

        I wonder why 2% of the Asian population has more guts than the millions of white who rarely fight anti-white discrimination

    • italian guy

      Liberals are butt hurt because they think the Japanese worship the West, Whites are “evil” therefore no one is supposed to like us.

      In a way it pisses me off too, because i think it’s creepy when people try to “steal” our traits, just look how non-whites go crazy when one of them has light eyes.

  • De Doc

    NPR splitting hairs (or eyes rather?) over picayune issues. Who gives a rat’s arse? Plastic surgery in some form or another spans back thousands of years in all cultures.

    • none of your business

      NPR spends most of it’s time looking for articles that will make Whites look like racists bullies and non Whites appear to be victims. I pressed my hair boo hoo boo hoo. I dyed my hair brown boo hoo boo hoo. I fixed my eyelids boo hoo boo hoo.
      This article is pretty much a clip and paste job of numerous articles written in the past.

  • UncleSham

    Sometimes having Asian eyes can be beneficial. The half-Chinese, half-Irish Tommy Chong used his Asian eyes to appear to be stoned all the time. This worked out perfectly for his comedy career.

  • LeonNJ

    This is better than having white women pump garbage into their lips to make them awfully large and unattractive.

    • willbest

      Seen a couple Asians with botox clown faces. Vanity it would appears predates race.

  • LHathaway

    “Experts also point to World War II–and American and European militarization of Asian countries”

    So, China and Japan were at war in the Pacific for 10 years or so, with Japan occupying a good portion of China. Then, Japan attacked and occupied Korea, the Philipines, Indo-China, Indonesian and almost all of the islands in the Pacific. I’m sure other AmRener’s can help out listing other nations the Japanese occupied, or attempted to occupy, including us. Where this occupation took place it was militaristic in style and was so all the way up to the top. It was not run by democratically elected leaders but by military rulers. 70 years later this has turned into ‘American and European militarization of Asian countries’ as a launching point for the white and western guilt-inducing pablum that follows in the rest of the article.

  • TonyWestfield

    Let’s not get tangled up in the subject matter of the article. Subject matter matters not. The writer is working for NPR, which means the purpose of the article is the same as the purpose of EVERY message coming out of NPR. The purpose is to shine a spotlight on human suffering (large or small) and to blame, in this order:
    1. White people
    2. wealthy people
    3. male people

    The “wealthy” part is tricky because most of us don’t consider ourselves wealthy. But NPR can settle that question in a hurry, as they consider the global scale, on which 80% of Whites are wealthy.

    So there. In the fairy-tale world of NPR, we are the villains who do harm to other people. And when people harm themselves, it is still our fault because, somehow, we made them do it.

    • none of your business

      Exactly. You said it better than I did. Bill Gates and Paul Allen are wealthy, therefore all Whites are wealthy.

  • Magician

    Basically, most, if not all, male AmRen posters think white women should not date outside her race, but white men can date non-white (Asian) women, simply because “She is not unattractive”.

    I am sure female AmRen posters are very happy to see that.

    My perspective is, it is fine for both genders to date outside his or her race, but he or she should not date just to slap her parents or white men in the face, or just to prove that he or she is not a racist. What matters more than interracial relationships is the birthrate. White couples should be encouraged to have more kids, and blacks should only give births to children they can support. ( Otherwise, we will end up paying for the living of their kids, which force us to spend less on our own kids )

    • none of your business

      Most male amremers believe that no White man ever had anything to do with black women and that all the light skinned blacks destroying this country are the remote descendants of White slave/indentured girls and their black lovers 300 years ago. I use the word lovers very loosely and I can’t think of a polite word for what happened.

  • OS-Q

    They do pop up once in a while in Europeans, usually in the North or Northeast corners of Europe. The Norwegians are a Germanic people from a milder climate than their Sami (Finno-Ugric) neighbors, who have these folds occasionally.

  • Diana Moon Glampers

    And I think many (if not most) white people would have an opinion on the beauty of Germans vs. Italians. European whites are likely to have pretty strong opinions about that.

    • none of your business

      Never been to North east Italy have you?

    • Anonymous

      Okay, since I am from England, here’s my opinion: Italians are clearly better looking than Germans.

      • Diana Moon Glampers

        I will say that the young Italian women I saw in Italy were beautiful, but seemed to have a short shelf-life (the mature Italian women were not as good looking as the mature women I saw in Germany).
        As a woman, I definitely find German men more physically appealing than Italians, no contest. Personality-wise, even more so.

        • Who Me?

          Ever see any pictures of Sophia Loren? Beautiful 50 yrs ago. Beautiful now. I wouldn’t call that a short shelf life. As for personality, who knows. I never heard anything particularly awful about her, other than the usual Hollyweird trash

  • StillModerated

    Kat Chow, indeed! And the jokes continue to write themselves.

  • none of your business

    Never been to north east Italy have you?

    • phillyguy

      up there they speak Italian and German

  • none of your business

    These kind of articles appear every few years. The basic templates were written long ago when Orientals decided the word was a racist slur and demanded to be called Asian. It is similar to the articles about black hair and the rest of the victimization yammering.

  • B.A_2014

    I can certainly tell the difference between a Chinese woman and questions Japanese woman. Are you really trying to suggest that Italian people and German people look the same?

    • Anonymous

      No. I am suggesting that they look different.

  • B.A_2014

    I lived in south Belfast. The Most diverse and Chinese part of the entire country. I wouldn’t mind seeing proof of that figure because that isn’t my experience. The Chinese are by a huge margin the biggest minority in N.I. They are also the most rude and unpleasant people in the country and that is including the African population. They are also up to their necks in the drug and prostitution trade. I’m not for a moment saying I would prefer Africans over the Chinese, just that the Chinese are not as grand as some people make them out to be.

  • Korean guy

    This is a famous celebrity in South Korea. She is an actress / model. She is not a part of any girl band in South Korea.

    I had this exact photo as my facebook profile photo for a few weeks, but kept my male English name (Robert) and a lot of non-Asian men added me to his facebook, and as soon as they added me, they introduced themselves and tried very hard to get to know “me”.

  • phillyguy

    you must watch too much Jewish Run television,read the history of the Germanic tribes and where they settled in Italy,from the Goths to the Lombards up to the Italo Normans, there are more light hair light eyes Italian then you would think, the extreme southern part of Italy are more darker because they have more Greek blood.

  • phillyguy

    you watch too much television run by the tribe they want to make all Europeans look bad