How the ‘Wichita Massacre’ Became a Factor in the Kansas Gov’s Race

Ryan Lovelace, National Review, October 22, 2014

One of the most horrendous crimes in Kansas’s history has become an issue in the state’s hard-fought gubernatorial race. Jonathan and Reginald Carr received death sentences from the state more than a decade ago for a crime spree that involved rape, robbery, and murder, and culminated in the “Wichita Massacre” killings of four people and a dog. When the Kansas supreme court overturned the brothers’ death sentences in a 6–1 decision earlier this summer, the reprieve drew the ire of Republican governor Sam Brownback, who’s now running for reelection.

At a debate on Tuesday, Brownback cited the case as an example of the importance of judicial appointments. “[Democratic gubernatorial candidate] Paul Davis wants to continue to appoint liberal judges to that court; I want to appoint judges who will interpret the law, not rewrite it as they choose to see it to be,” Brownback said. “One of the supreme-court justices [involved in the case] even hosted a fundraiser for Paul Davis in her home. I find that wrong. It’s something that shouldn’t happen.”

That fundraiser was held at the home of Justice Carol Beier, who was appointed to the court in 2003 by former Democratic governor Kathleen Sebelius. Beier was actually the lone dissent from the Carr brothers’ death sentences, but only because she thought the death-penalty reprieve didn’t go far enough–she wanted a reversal of their convictions.

Brownback released an ad before Tuesday’s debate hitting Davis for siding with the liberal justices:

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  • It became a factor because Samnesty Brownback has had a difficult reelection season, he’s uncharacteristically behind, or has been much of the fall, in a deep red state. So he’s pulling a rabbit out of his hat. Not that I mind the tactic, I don’t. But this is the same Samnesty Brownback that’s open borders for everyone else but absolutely refused (while he was in the Senate) to consider giving refugee status to white South Africans, because of their “white racism.”

    Fortunately, the Brownback/Roberts mess in Kansas has not much affected Kris Kobach, who is going to win re-election even if Brownback and Roberts don’t.

    • Larry Klein

      It’s a reoccurring theme by the RINOs. Too little too late

      • Correct. See “Easy” Ed Gillespie’s last ditch effort ads supporting the name of the Washington Redskins. He wouldn’t have to stoop to such chicanery if he was for strict enforcement of immigration laws, building a border fence and ending disparate impact. Oh well, seeing one of Rove/Norquist’s boys go down is a pleasure.

        • Special Ed Gillespie is such a horrible candidate and such a RINO sock puppet that Mark Warner could have scheduled a Live Stream internet feed of him molesting a child, and he’d still win re-election.

        • Jacobite2

          There’s only one thing worse for a US politician than losing — that’s being caught standing up for white people. It just isn’t done in PC society.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Wimpy RINOs will only run hard-hitting pro-white ads when they’re desperate.

      Please recall that Bush Sr. was something like 19 points behind Dukakis in 1988 when he put out the Willie Horton ads.

      • jayvbellis

        Agreed. I Remember the Lee Atwater, Bush Sr. Willie Horton advert that won Preppie WASP pussy George Bush Sr. The Presidency and I had to try to survive NewYork City 1988-92 while this pathetic excuse for a White man was our leader.

        I’ll never forget watching Bush Senior making some boring speech after. He won. I watched this at so e NYC Newsstand with a ~ 18 yr old Italian American guy running the news stand. He asked me if Bush was going to secure the borders, end the Black criminal terror, I said “no”. . He shrugged. Eventually Bush Sr. Invaded Iraq.

        Bush Sr is the. president I hated the most. Dubya Bush Jr. Was just a dumb as”, Jethro Bodine type.

        I’m glad Pat Buchanan took down Bush Sr.

        • That was the annoying thing about Lee Atwater’s career. All that talent, and he wasted it on George H.W. Bush.

          • jayvbellis

            But Lee Atwater had the talent. We have to find guys like that now – who know how to reach the hearts. And minds of our people in simple, easy to understand ways .

            This PHD free market. Economic wonkery – that’s got to go.

          • MannyR

            The fact that you guys are going back and forth about things that occurred literally when I was 10 years old says so much about how congested, corrupt and rigged our political structure is I this country. It just gets worse every president and every election.

          • none of your business

            We talk about the past because our future is so hopeless.

          • Jacobite2

            Atwater drank the Kool-Aid in the hospital before he died. It was as disgusting as it was pitiful. He thought he was praying to a non-white God, that’s for sure.

        • Strider73

          Just so everyone remembers, Al Gore created the Horton spot to use against Dukakis in the primaries. Bush Sr. simply took advantage of the free gift for his own use.

        • dukem1

          Bush Sr. made his bones in WWII at an age when most young men today have hardly got out of high school.
          He may have been many things in his life – lousy politician, crummy prez, etc., etc…
          But a pussy he most definitely was not.

          Take it back.

    • jayvbellis

      QD knows what is going down in the Middle West – Missouri, Kansas. Amren readers should follow his lead in this area.

      • Unfortunately I haven’t been able to pay much attention to Kansas this season. That’s the disappointing thing about this season for me personally; I know more about more races and more ballot measures in more places than ever because of my day job, but it also means I don’t have the time to write a long comprehensive analysis of the same like I would have in the past. I was able to write a national preview this evening, and will get to the local and regional preview later this week.

        http://countenance.wordpress.com/2014/10/28/2014-general-election-preview-national-edition/

  • mikefromwichita

    The Carr’s deserve to have died years ago and not a nice clean quick end either.

    • phillyguy

      The chopping block, or better yet disembowelment

  • ncpride

    the death-penalty reprieve didn’t go far enough–she wanted a reversal of their convictions….

    Absolutely unbelievable! There was a survivor who identified these savages…..how could she NOT know them on sight considering what these monsters did to her, and this piece of garbage wanted a reversal?! My God…nothing makes it more clear your life is considered worthless in this country now, Whitey.

    • Sick of it

    • dmxinc

      It is worse than you say. You are not just worthless, but hunted, by our own government no less.

    • Yancy Derringer

      To be accurate, she wanted a reversal of the convictions and a new trial. Ridiculous anyway – she cited some kind of procedural error.

      • ncpride

        “This case is hard,” Beier wrote. “It is beyond hard. And those of us who have made a life in the law often repeat an old saying: Hard cases make bad law.”

        What is this twit even talking about here? What is ‘hard’ about this case? What ‘bad’ law? There is a surviving witness, mountains of evidence, yet this garbage bag runs on about ‘errors’ that have nothing to do with anything, and doesn’t change a thing. Why the people in Kansas haven’t run her out of town in beyond me.

        • MannyR

          She’s an overpaid, entitled, scum bag lawyer reciting crap platitudes in an effort to give the impression her profession is some sort of deep thinking meditation on justice and equality. Bitch please! Lawyers are trash pure and simple and judges are the worst. Our justice system is nothing but a chess game designed to make the legal profession money.

          • PvtCharlieSlate

            What do you call an old, decrepit, arrogant, incompetent lawyer?

            “Your Honor”

        • Peter Connor

          Human garbage on the bench, and arrogant too.

        • The treason tribunals we hold in future will be hard, too. I hope she is ready.

  • MekongDelta69

    The Carr ‘bruthas’ should have had done to them, what they did to those poor White kids.

    • Cid Campeador

      They all need to die including the murderers of Channon & Christopher, Eve Carson, Shanna Murray, Megan Boken, Autumn Pasquale, Baby Antonio Santiago, Amy Willard, Lauren Burk and hundreds of other White victims of who’s deaths most of us have never heard.

  • What this case represents is the dismantling of the traditional legal system.

    New rights are constantly being discovered by judges every day. They’re not about truth and justice anymore. They’re about ideology. The ideology of “black liberation.”

    Expect in the future that blacks and Mexicans will be able to murder whites and like in Britain receive a few years paid vacation in prison, complete with air conditioning, exercise gyms, gourmet chef prepared food, and conjugal visits by girlfriends and hookers. It’s the system in Sweden already.

    At some point the white man, the man with a gun, is going to have to engage in vigilante action, like Paul Kersey (Charles Bronson) in the movie Death Wish (?). Actually, I think we’re already almost at that point.

    • Cid Campeador

      I can’t believe that I just posted similar sentiments above. I didn’t see your post until I had posted mine some 2 minutes ago. 11:45 p.m.
      I totally agree that it’s coming soon. It’s going to be either that or a real shooting Civil race war and it won’t be fought along geographic lines.

      • George Costanza

        I think we are already engaged in a race war, it’s just most whites don’t want to look at it that way.

        • MannyR

          We are and keeping that mindset will save your life especially if you work or absolutely must live in the city

        • Cid Campeador

          As Bob Grant (RIP) used to say “They’ve declared War on us but we just haven’t figured it out yet.”

    • jayvbellis

      Mexicans use terror against Black criminals in Southern Ca. Mexicans have pretty much ethnically cleansed Blacks for Southern Ca and Mexican gangs use terror to control Blacks in California prisons. Get to know some Mexicans. Make your second or third wife a pretty, younger Mexican gal. She has cousins, brothers in Mexican gangs. They can be hired. This is the way the Mafia started out. Blacks don’t rape women in Italian mafia families.

  • dd121

    It only falls a little short of being an “us against them argument”. It’s progress.

  • Conrad

    If I remember correctly, one of the white victims was planning a trip to Africa to do missionary work among them.
    This is a good example of why there were lynchings in the old days, & a good reason why they may happen at some time in the future. It’s just a matter of necessity.

    • Sick of it

      To fit with the old traditions, people like Harry Reid need to be included in the festivities…as was his uncle.

  • phillyguy

    If it was left up to the Hollywood tribe, they will make a movie about the carr brothers and their innocence just like they did with that beast hurricane Carter, but in the Carter movie the propaganda machine was found to be all false lies, The Descendants of the white people depicted in the movie sued and won a considerable amount of money , but they had to sign off to keep their mouths shut so the leftist propaganda looked like reality.

    • none of your business

      Didn’t Carter kill some blacks as well?

      • phillyguy

        No, or it was never published, he was on the downside of his career and him and another negro we’re scoping out a bar, they went in there with pistols and shotguns, to rob the place and killed two white men who were patrons and the white barmaid. the white woman survived for a week in the hospital and she gave the description to the police , there was someone outside who described him as well and the getaway car that he was found hiding in.

    • jayvbellis

      It’s not just the tribe in Hollywood.

      Ken Burns and his lying PC slut daughter made a documentary alleging that all the Blacks convicted of. Gang raping the Central Park jogger were innocent, framed by evil White racists.

      That’s PBS – Pure BS.

  • robinbishop34

    You can find court transcripts from this trial and to hear the testimony of what really happened from the lone survivor is enough to make you vomit.

    • ncpride

      Indeed. I heard her describe what happened in court (her face not shown) and I can’t begin to imagine how she made it through it all. I’m betting she still doesn’t feel clean, and will have nightmares the rest of her life.

      • none of your business

        Doesn’t she still have some uncurable STD?

        • ncpride

          (groan) Haven’t heard that, but wouldn’t be surprised. I hope she has been able to find some measure of peace and sanity in her mind. I can imagine she will always struggle with what happened to her to a degree, but hope she has been able to move forward.

          • Kenner

            She is married and very happy these days. I’m not sure, but I think she married another survivor of violent crime.

          • ncpride

            Thank you for the update. I’m glad to know she is happy and doing well, and wish her all the very best.

          • MannyR

            Wanna bet she’s got about 50 guns in her house and can’t stand blacks while out in public.

  • jayvbellis

    Please. Photos, names, addresses, contact information, name of spouses, lesbian lovers, law school contacts of these cursed judges that overturned the death penalty verdict.

    • none of your business

      Carol Beir is enough. I’m sure she is easy to find.

  • none of your business

    Carol Beir, more and more I am ashamed of being a White woman. For a long time I have thought women including White women should not be allowed to vote let alone become Judges. I know there are a few pro White White women but there are not enough of us to offset the idiots and traitors.
    Ever heard of Rose Bird a Ca justice appointed by Jerry Brown back in his first term? She overturned a rape and murder conviction of a young black man whose victims were 2 White women in their 90’s, handicapped and bedridden. She overturned the conviction because although the police read him his Miranda rights before initial questioning they did not call his Mother and send a police car to bring her to the station and have her present for the initial questioning. I believe Cruz Reynosa a Hispanic Judge helped her in that decision.
    Bird was eventually ousted by the business community because of her anti business rulings. The business community of course had no regard for 2 handicapped bedridden White women in their 90s raped, tortured and murdered by an savage animal. Among other things a broken bottle was used to rape the victims. All the business community cared about was her anti business rulings.

    • dmxinc

      You are correct. Just as with most issues of discussion here – percentages matter.

      Knowing a few of any group that does the correct thing is not enough.

    • Cid Campeador

      I think we need more Jeanine Piros.

    • Kenner

      I remember Rose Bird well. She helped me begin to shed my liberal indoctrination. Thanks, Rose!

    • phillyguy

      I bet that beast animal negro was probably killed in an alley a year or two later

  • Luca

    Now the way is cleared for the Carr brothers to get nominated for a Nobel Peace prize, give commencement speeches at liberal colleges and maybe even become radio commentators on NPR. What the heck, Mumia only killed one cop and look how much good press he gets.

    • none of your business

      I bet law and order has a script in which the Carr brothers are White and their victims are an Asian, a Hispanic, a black and a gay transgender or sex change weirdo.

      • Cid Campeador

        You could take that to the Bank. Anyone from another country who watched L&O would come away thinking that all violent criminals are White.

        • MannyR

          I just was flipping channels the other day and they had a teenage white kid holding a gun to a black teachers head sneering out threats to kill everyone at school. Of course the the masculine black police Sargent with body armor and a goatee shot him down saving the day. Swear to god.

          • none of your business

            British TV is just as bad. Netflix has a lot of British TV series. I picked one and looked at the little summaries for each episode.
            Episode one a group of insane fanatic American anti abortion Christians arrive in London planning to bomb abortion clinics and kill abortion midwives.
            Episode two a group of evil working class White men join a facist group and go around beating up innocent pakis and Africans.
            Ever watched the Copper series? A NYC cop during the civil war. The medical examiner is black, a former slave who escaped Simon Legree and managed to become a Dr and medical examiner. Naturally his wife and kids were murdered by the evil Irish during the draft riots. I watched a few episodes for just a few minutes each before I couldn’t stand it.

          • jayvbellis

            Way past time to cancel cable.

            There are now many technological devises to block out most all of the bad anti White propaganda. It’s the same principle as block hard core porn, child porn.

          • MannyR

            I totally agree. I’ve told my girlfriend to cancel cable multiple times and she refuses claiming she can’t survive without her shows. I’ve told her yes she can and that we shouldn’t be supporting cable and all the filth on it. She keeps paying for it by herself and I just shake my head.

          • jayvbellis

            Manny, I suggest a signing some less desirable room where she has to go to watch her bad shows. Something like a smoking room.

    • Cid Campeador

      Perhaps they could be guests on Mumiya’s talk show.

    • phillyguy

      the governor of my state who is a Republican just signed in order that convicted murderers can not give speeches course it does harm to the victim’s family, that will probably be shot down by the liberal High Court.

      • Cid Campeador

        I hope that Corbett wins again. Wolfe/ Wolf looks like a typical Progy POS.

    • WR_the_realist

      I say they’ll get their own reality show on MSNBC.

  • MannyR

    Well here goes again. This Justice Beier is another prime example of how out of line white women have become. What grounds are there for this woman to think that these two negros sentences should be overturned? Five young whites were raped and murdered and this trash goes out of her way to overturn their death sentences? Unbelievable.

  • LIBERTYSINCURSION

    ARTICLE CORRECTION: – “crime spree that involved rape, robbery, and murder, and culminated in the “Wichita Massacre” killings of four people and a dog” – Actually, from what I’ve been able to find. The Demons known as the “Carr brothers” killed “five people and a dog”, not four. However, even that is not the entirety of their murderous deeds. You see, they both intended, and tried, to murder a sixth person as well. That victim however was lucky enough to survive their horrendous wounds. Otherwise it’d be “six people and a dog”, rather than the “five people and a dog”.

  • scutum

    I know and work with a number of lawyers in my job and have a nephew who is a lawyer. It is common knowledge in the legal profession that the worst lawyers become judges. While this is not true in every instance, it is true in most instances.

    • LIBERTYSINCURSION

      “the worst lawyers become judges” – For some reason, looking at the Kansas Supreme Court line up. I can’t help but to find that statement to be absolutely true.

  • John R

    Yes. I, too, am outraged by this. But, there is a silver lining: The reversal of the sentence, and the words “Wichita Massacre” were actually reported on the Internet, in a mainstream publication! Until now, I was only informed of this crime by reading American Renaissance, and Stormfront. So, it seems the walls are cracking. Even if the news didn’t describe the crime, the very words “Wichita Massacre” can be googled by anyone. Good. I feel the leftists accidentally let in a few pro-White fifth columnists into their ranks. Our enemies are not as invincible as we thought.

  • Cid Campeador

    When does the “force” begin?