Hungary Bans Conference by U.S. Group It Calls ‘Racist’

Margit Feher, Wall Street Journal, September 29, 2014

Hungary banned a conference scheduled for later this week of the U.S.-based National Policy Institute, saying it considers the organization extremist and racist.

Interior Minister Sandor Pinter on Monday ordered that the scheduled speakers of the conference may not enter the country or stay in Hungary. Mr. Pinter said he was acting on the instructions of Prime Minister Viktor Orban in ordering the chief of national police to use all legal means to prevent the event.

In response, NPI President Richard Spencer said, “I can only conclude that Viktor Orban and everyone attacking our conference fear what we have to say.”

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The Interior Ministry said that under Hungary’s constitution, exercising freedom of expression may not breach the human dignity of others or infringe on the dignity of the Hungarian nation or of any national, ethnic, racial or religious community.

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The NPI said it will persevere and won’t cancel the conference.

“It’s important to remember that neither Orban nor anyone else has accused us of actually breaking any laws, because we haven’t. To the contrary, it is the Hungarian government that might potentially break a law–in this case, one of its own,” NPI said on its website.

“It’s true that the government’s actions are going to make our meeting a little more inconvenient than it otherwise would be. But life is full of such challenges,” Mr. Spencer said.

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The original list of speakers also included Marton Gyongyosi, a prominent member of the Hungarian far-right Jobbik party, which got more than 20% of the vote in general elections earlier this year and is the third-largest party in the Hungarian Parliament.

By Monday, Mr. Gyongyosi’s name had disappeared from the list of scheduled speakers.

“The conference date clashes with several election campaign events,” Mr. Gyongyosi said, referring to municipal elections Oct. 12. “Furthermore, I can hardly sympathize with the views of some of the speakers–namely those of the U.S. racists; I don’t share their ideologies at all.”

The venue, Larus Conference Center, where the conference was originally to be held, said it had cancelled its contract with the organizers and will be closed Oct. 4. {snip}

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  • Easyrhino

    I think the National Policy Institute was a bit over optimistic about being able to have a conference with this type of subject in Hungary.

    Free speech doesn’t exactly abound in Europe, in many European nations you can get thrown in jail for years merely for questioning or having doubts about a certain historical event that took place in the 1940’s.

    • Realist

      “Free speech doesn’t exactly abound in Europe,….”

      Or the United States for that matter.

  • B.A_2014

    Not only can the authorities throw you in jail for holding certain views but in Germany they throw you in jail if you as a lawyer defend certain peoples right to freedom of expression.

    Aren’t jobbik an openly antisemitic party?
    The cheek of them to try and distance themselves from people like Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer.

    • Mason Gull

      It’s no surprise that Jobbik pulled out. They’re hard Duginists, and don’t even consider themselves to be part of the white race. It’s a wonder that Dugin showed up himself. I suspect that Richard Spencer just doesn’t know the ideology of the people he’s dealing with.

      • B.A_2014

        I don’t like the use of the term white race. Spaniards, Portuguese and greeks aren’t as white as the Irish, Swedes or Ukranians but they are just as European.

        • Mason Gull

          Whatever you call it, Jobbik doesn’t want it. They’ve decided that they’re Turks from Central Asia.

          • Augustus3709

            For better or worse history shows that national identity trumps racial or color identity every single time. To break through into a pan-ethnic movement would be revolutionary.

          • HJ11

            In the past it sometimes made sense to focus on national identity.

            Today, however, we have external enemies who threaten all Whites.

          • Long Live Dixie

            HJ11: Today, however, we have external enemies who threaten all Whites.

            That has happened many times in the past. It is no reason to not focus on national identity. In fact, there is a strong correlation between a sense of national identity and racialism.

          • HJ11

            We’ve never had external enemies who threaten all Whites as we have today with mass transportation bringing millions of non-Whites to formerly all White lands at a time when many Whites foolishly believe that miscegenation is fine.

          • Long Live Dixie

            If the Moors had broken through the Frankish lines, all of Europe could have been overrun.

            History shows time and again that whites who have strong national identities are the most racialist.

          • Augustus3709

            If the Muslims had somehow broken through the Franks, they would have been utterly annihilated by the Saxons waiting for them on the other side.

          • Long Live Dixie

            All right, maybe so, but my point is that Europe has been threatened many times over the centuries. I don’t believe that the current threat is fundamentally any different from earlier threats except in the unprecedented lack of resistance by Europeans. White nationalists often argue that the current threat is so unprecedented as to justify the erasure or putting aside of national identities, yet the fact remains that those with the strongest national identities (e.g., Golden Dawn) are the ones who are resisting the threat while those with the weakest national identities are doing nothing against the threat.

          • Augustus3709

            Well, I agree. The current narrative that White people are these horrible colonizing monsters is ridiculous and politically motivated.

            White Europe faced several existential threats throughout history;

            From the 1st Muslim Invasion, the Hun invasion, the Mongolian Invasion, the Ottoman Empire, and now today the Immigration Genocide.

            If White people knew their true history, they wouldn’t feel bad, they’d feel inspired and full of spirit.

          • Periapsis

            Until you remember ALL whites are threatened by insiders who are in cahoots with outside invaders.

          • ThomasER916

            That’s what the Inquisition was all about as Whites belonged to ethnic nations who could act in their collective self-interest.

          • They’re full-retard. DNA demonstrates that Hungarians are mostly Germanics and Alpines not kebabs.

          • dmxinc

            Never go full retard. Never.

          • IstvanIN

            It is part of the Hungarian national myth, being descended from the Huns and all that (sort of like White Americans having Indian blood). They have no intention of giving up their Christian roots and becoming Muslims.

          • Long Live Dixie

            That’s true, but what of their support for Turkey’s claim to Cyprus? Things like that from Jobbik are increasingly difficult to ignore.

          • IstvanIN

            It is hard to say. I would imagine it is part of a search for an identity apart from those who many Hungarians would see as their oppressors: the German, Slavic and Latin tribes that surround them. It is, of course, foolish in this day and age especially in light of all the havoc and death the Turks have wreaked across Hungary in particular and Europe in general. Hungary was founded as a Christian Kingdom and will remain a Christian nation as long as it remains independent. Keep in mind this is longest period of time Hungary has been independent (about 25 years) and not at war in gosh knows how long and I think they are still finding their way in the world.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Maybe so, but they’ll win no friends in southeastern Europe with a pro-Turkish attitude. This is especially relevant because Golden Dawn would be a natural ally of a radical nationalist party.

            I’m actually surprised that a pro-Kremlin party can even get double-digit support in Hungary.

          • The dynamic has changed since Moscow last “visited” Hungary. Right now Moscow is the only thing keeping the US and the IMF from global hegemony.

          • Long Live Dixie

            The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. I believe that Putin’s plans for Europe are as diabolical as the USA’s plans.

            We need only to look at Putin’s open borders policies, his persecution of his own country’s nationalists, and his nostalgia for Sovietism.

          • I get all that. However, you can’t avoid having to make the choice. They both have their hands in everything. This isn’t 1933 anymore.

            You try to have a nationalist group win elections without taking a side and one or the other will smack you right down.

          • cyrusthevirus

            Quite possibly -however unlike the race traitor pro-Islam western leaders he does take a hard line with the RoP !! And he is -again unlike the rest in western Europe pro White.

        • HJ11

          Ah, the problem with that reasoning is that Blacks and Asians born in Europe can also call themselves Europeans. However, they can’t call themselves Whites.

          Our true identity comes from our DNA code, not from pieces of real estate.

          • Long Live Dixie

            HJ11: Ah, the problem with that reasoning is that Blacks and Asians born in Europe can also call themselves Europeans.

            Only in this upside-down world we live in.

            European is much more than a geographic reference, no matter how many times the mainstream media deny it.

          • HJ11

            Europe is a place. It is not a genotype. That’s why it’s a problem in using that as the term for our identity. White is part of our genotype.

          • Long Live Dixie

            The place has become part of the identity.

          • IstvanIN

            Europe is the birthplace of Whites. They should be one and the same.

          • HJ11

            Let’s see. I was born in America, so I am an American and I therefore am the same as, say, Jesse Jackson who was also born in America even though I’m White and he’s Black.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Europe has been the home of whites for millennia. There is no comparison to America.

          • HJ11

            So, you are saying that European is a synonym for White? What then is a Black born in Europe from Black parents who were born in Europe? I’m afraid if you try to insist on that in Europe you may find yourself in legal trouble.

            This is the problem we Whites face with we try to avoid our most essentail identity which comes from our DNA.

          • IstvanIN

            An African (or Negro) in Europe. There are all sorts of nutty laws on the books world wide. Doesn’t make them right.

          • HJ11

            No, it doesn’tmake them right. But, the law is what is boldy asserted and plausibly maintained. And, those who are doing the bold assertions and the plausible maintaining are in the majority and are making the laws, but more, the public mores concerning these identity issues are not following what it seems clear you and I would like, to wit: British=White. European=White.

          • Gary John 金白龍

            A non-White can be a German, an Austrian, a Frenchman etc.

            But…

            Only Whites can be Europeans.

          • IstvanIN

            Are you being silly? White/European Americans are part of the EUROPEAN diaspora. Jesse Jackson is not. Geeze.

          • HJ11

            Well, let’s switch to Great Britain. Today, “British,” may mean Blacks and it is often used that way. However, if one says “I am White,” this cannot possibly mean Blacks.

            I’m afraid all the quick stepping away from our identity as Whites is as difficult to maintain as is the other attempt away from the word White by calling White civilization “Western Civllization.”

            Of course there is another term that describes us to a T: Aryan, but, of course, few use that term these days.

          • IstvanIN

            The fact that some nitiwts refer to some African as British doesn’t make it so. Only the English, Scots, Welsh and Irish can be British.

          • HJ11

            I wish you were right, but you’re not. All words are made up words and are often changed as years go by. I would like to be able to say that being British means you are White, but that’s not what is happening in Great Britain. The word British is no longer a synonym for White.

          • Long Live Dixie

            You seem awfully eager to allow the enemies of the West to control the meanings of words that are central to Western identity.

          • HJ11

            Huh? Nonsense. I’m just trying to point out that we Whites need to have a proper identity for us that is unique to us and lets us know that we are different from other peoples.

            Too narrow a definition, such as one based on nationality doesn’t work. Too broad a definition such as one based on “Europe,” includes those who are not our kind.

            The two words that define us as “non-Jewish White people of European descent,” without having to say that mouthful every time are: Whites and Aryans.

          • Long Live Dixie

            ‘Aryan’ doesn’t mean a lot to me. It’s not even an English word and it has heavy baggage associated with it. For the time being, I’m fine with ‘white’ because it’s generally understood although it remains an imperfect description. Among more educated people, I think ‘Anglo-Celtic’ is a good racial description of my folk. Obviously, that is something too narrow to apply to all people of European descent, since it generally applies to those of British Isles stock.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Your own reasoning unfolds when you consider that Arabs, Jews, Indians (sub-continent), North Africans, Turks, and Caucasians (from the Caucasus) are all officially classified as ‘white’ by the US government.

          • HJ11

            “Unfolds”? I think you mean you think it falls apart.

            Well, I’m not here to pick the fly specks out of the pepper. I’m simply looking for a term that defines who we are and who we are is this: We are “non-Jewish White people of European descent no matter where in the world we happen to be born.” Now, we need one word that means that mouthful so we can easily rally around and know who is us and who is not us.

          • Long Live Dixie

            I’m not objecting to the white label, though I do find it imperfect. What I’m objecting to is your willingness to accept that Africans and others can ever be ‘European’, ‘British’, etc.

          • Periapsis

            Indeed, Jews are most definitely NOT white, their genetics are very different from ours for one. Secondly, they themselves would laugh at anyone who calls Jews white.

          • Roger Noah

            Partially true. Like all American blacks, Jesse Jackson has the Anglo-Celtic blood of randy slave-owners and supervisors – in addition to West African blood.

          • IstvanIN

            He is black. He identifies as black and that is that.

          • HJ11

            So, if one is a color and if one identifies as that color, then that is that.

            I’m glad you’ve finally come around to understand that if one is White and if one identifies as White, then that is that. We are Whites. That is our identity.

          • ThomasER916

            Only Whites are indoctrinated to deny they’re White. I believe this has to do with centuries of being Christian where your actual body and ancestry are not important.

          • HJ11

            That’s a large part of it.

          • B.A_2014

            From what I know about American history, America ( a word coin by Europeans and not used before their arrival as far as I’m aware) was to be a land for all free white men (and women unless it ment to be a gay paradise.) The protestant/classical Liberal/ republican cuoture has its origins in Europe but mainly Britain. I dont consider Jesse Jackson American as The american identity is product and extension of a European identity. He was born in a land called America but an American he is not (in my very humble opinion.)

          • Julius Caesar

            You’re referring to the Naturalization Act of 1790 which states “This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character”. Quite obviously the founders had no intention of allowing non-whites to be invited in this country to do as they pleased. It especially burns my ass when I hear leftists parade the idea around that this nation was founded for everyone to flock to and that surely the founders meant for “ALL men are created equal” to be translated literally. That’s just not true, and is made apparent by the Naturalization Act of 1790.
            We had a once proud and great nation, founded on republican ideals..and this government at one point served its purpose and our nation thrived…but that was when we were a homogenous nation with WHITE land-owning males making the decisions that were necessary to support themselves and their kind. This is not a nation for dune coons and Apefricans and zipperheads and spics.

          • Ted Cunterblast

            Merely being born in America does not make you American.

          • HJ11

            Sure it does. Check the Constitution.

          • IstvanIN

            Even that is debatable as that determination was made not by the constitution but by a flawed interpretation of a Supreme Court ruling.

          • ThomasER916

            Don’t go full retard.

          • B.A_2014

            So because a negro or a Indian calls themselves European, we should give them that title and just stick with white…NO!

            These are the lands in which we have evolved to live in. Europe was built, defended and defined by our peoples. I have no problem in telling none whites that they are not European thus they can’t be Irish or British. My family don’t like it all when I say my mixed race cousin is not Irish because she is a European. It’s very simple from where I am sitting:

            1) If you want be German, Scottish or Latvian, you have to be fully European.
            2)If you are not fully European then you cannot be French, Norwegian, Welsh etc.

            Just because your born in a stable doesn’t make you a horse.

          • HJ11

            Good! Now, if we can just convince more Whites to such a view, we may have something.

          • saxonsun

            Correct. If I went to live in India, I could never claim to be Indian. Why can’t people see the obvious here?

          • Gary John 金白龍

            Bingo. If you are Chinese, you are from China. Can a White man say “I am Chinese“?

      • propagandaoftruth

        See, this is what happens when a Folk’s only representative is Jobbik.

        Too far, too kooky, too goose steppy. And that crappola about Hungarians allying with Muslims?

        No wonder Mdm. LePen snubs those PR nightmares.

        We must follow Kipling’s advice and never lose our heads. Not an easy task around Muslims, Jobbik.

      • LHathaway

        They’re more than fine people. Of all the Easter nations under the Soviet iron curtain, Hungary endured it the best, economically, socially and quite possibly, spiritually.

      • Ted Cunterblast

        Nonsense. Spencer and co. are perfectly aware of Dugin’s ideology, which is why they invited him.

        More likely is that the conference was spiked by anti-Duginites among the invited speakers, or in Hungary’s government, or both.

    • ThomasER916

      “Aren’t jobbik an openly antisemitic party?”

      Who cares?

      Is Jobbik pro-White?

      • Calufrax

        No. They are pro-Turk.

  • shawnmer

    So this is how the West dies …

    • KevinPhillipsBong

      To the bleating of sheep.

  • Sick of it

    Now does anyone here believe we can work with Pan-Turanists? They always show their true colors (i.e. non-white).

  • dd121

    The left puts its “tolerance” on display again. If they agree with you they’ll be tolerant, if not, they’ll rip your throat out.

  • Usually Much Calmer

    “But life is full of such challenges,” Mr. Spencer said.

    I hope all of us at least once a day share in Spencer’s sporting attitude, if nothing else.

  • newscomments70

    I read the original article. AMREN is not mentioned. Liberal media is starting to realize that demonizing AMREN only gives us free publicity. I like to see liberal media mention AMREN and similar organizations. I love the SPLC articles about race realists…you cannot pay for that kind of exposure. Any publicity is good publicity.

    • LHathaway

      I remember when they went from calling Jared Taylor some version of suave bigot with a tie (although one actual interviewer called him creepy), to journalist Jared Taylor. I think the title journalist Jared Taylor was meant to be ‘inoculation’. It was supposed to steel you against his persuasive mastery or words. I guess the American media is at war with Mr Taylor. They will leave no stone unturned in their quest for justice. They seem well on the way to doing that until we are all dead.

  • TruthBeTold

    The meeting and the cancellation got a write-up in the WSJ. Let’s hope that raises interest in these topics.

  • Roger Noah

    Mr. Taylor: Here’s my thought for what it’s worth. Amren, NPI etc. should reconvene under new non-racist platforms. Avoid words like “race realists”. This form of masking is the only way to pursue the very legitimate interests of European people everywhere, and to garner a broad-based support among people who may be turned off by blunt racism. Also, do not put down non-Europeans and avoid comparisons when delineating the achievements of European peoples. What do we gain by bragging and hubris anyway? Better follow the Zeitgeist in terms of racial propriety, while using our new respectability to aggressively and effectively work for the future of European folks. Our descendants will thank us for it. If we continue the way we have been, we will be a footnote in history and Europe and its offshoots will dissolve genetically and culturally into new hybrid ensembles that will definitely not be better. In summary: Be effective, rather than always right. Our warrior forebears forged and wore two-edged swords. One edge was “Ferocity” and the other edge was “Cunning”. You cannot be a successful hunter or warrior without a good dose of Cunning. As warriors, we have too much of “Ferocity” but too little “Cunning”. Learn to dissimulate when you are at a political disadvantage. – Roger

    • Mack0

      This has been the strategy of the main stream conservative movement and its resulted in a weak watered down and ineffectual movement.

      • Roger Noah

        I am not talking about the Mainstream Conservative movement. I am talking about leaders such as Marine Le Pen. Marine understands the end goal, and what it takes to attain success.

        BTW, there is no harm in infiltrating and steering the Mainstream Conservative movement – or even the left wing, for that matter. Or the Environmental movement. Anything that is half-reasonable can be re-purposed and re-used.

        • Mack0

          It wouldn’t matter how the movement was repackage. We will be attacked for expressing any positive sentiment about European identity.

          • LHathaway

            What, actual positive identity as Europeans do they have? A legacy of being displaced, made losers in their own country? Perhaps there are universal ideals or conservative ideals the voting public should reconnect with, regardless of their race, but what Europeans and whites need now is something new.

          • Mack0

            I agree, playing the traditional political game has wrought us nothing but dispossession of our people. What do we need and how do we move forward? Any suggestions? Maybe these are the things we should be talking about.

            It’s obvious at this point that discussions about racial differences and the hypocrisy and stupidity of mainstream culture will only get us so far.

          • LHathaway

            I don’t think there is a point to discussing racial differences. Yes, they may, possibly be real. Yes, in some instances these differences may favor whites but calls for white rights, white dignity, and ultimately white existence, they depend upon whites being equally worthy of them.

            Politically, whites (and any non-whites we can persuade) need to vote one issue and nothing else. For now white votes must vote one single issue until every nearly every political party fronts that issue and that is 0 immigration. Vote for the strongest anti-immigration policy no matter who they are and no matter WHAT their other issues are. Eventually, nearly ever party would front a platform of 0 immigration, and for the most part mean it.

          • Roger Noah

            Well-said. We need to defocus from the “Bell Curve” and focus on an immigration moratorium. Get that going by any means possible. If I need to shave my head and become a Buddhist monk to effect an immigration moratorium in European-derived countries, I will do that. Political candidates listen to special interests because these interests provide them with donation which in turn helps their campaign to garner votes. We can beat the pro-immigration lobbies by being a massive, resolute anti-immigration voting bloc ourselves so that politicians need to curry favor with us to get our votes. Mobilize! Get this done in the USA – it is possible unless the ghouls and hags in the Supreme Court deem an immigration moratorium unconstitutional – which, hopefully, they will not.

          • Roger Noah

            That is why we master the art of Realpolitik. Read Machiavelli’s The Prince. Learn Orwellian Doublespeak. What counts for our descendants is whether we reached our goals and whether we could preserve our genetic and memetic heritages in habitats suitable for our survival and growth. Learn how to express positive sentiments about being European without shoving the Bell Curve into the faces of non-whites. If I were non-white, I would not like you telling me that I was statistically likely to be less intelligent than you. You might piss me off enough that I worked hard to block every move of yours. You could have quietly, skillfully done a lot of what you wanted to do without getting non-whites all riled up. Saying “That is a crime-infested area you need to avoid” can garner the same results as saying “That is a black-infested area with a high crime rate”. Results count, the words spoken during the course of achieving those results count very little. As long as the message is conveyed, there is no need to offend more than minimally needed.

          • Mack0

            The intent of the opposition is our destruction. We are the enemy not what we say or how we say it. They need no reason to be offended. Our very existance is offensive to them. In order to actualize their agenda all the remnants of our existance must be expunged from history.

          • LHathaway

            So true.

          • Mary

            Of course they are allowed, and even expected, to favor their own race. For Whites, anything less than perfect enthusiasm that we are rapidly dwindling, is viewed as racist. Any feeble attempt to stand up for ourselves is equated with KKK support. I don’t know if this can be overcome.

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      Eloquent, Mr. Noah. But the incomparable Jared Taylor has a paper/auditory trail which forbids the course you advise. And where would Amren be with no Jared Taylor?

      Your advice is appropriate for politician of our era. It’s not applicable t an intellectual/movement leader. The change in consciousness among European peoples which must take place will not result from “masking” reality. Someone must tell the truth.

      • Roger Noah

        I guess you are right regarding Mr. Taylor and Mr. Spencer. Perhaps, Amren and NPI should continue as is as sources of truth we all tune into in the wee hours of the night. But do not expect them to bring about any significant political change.

        But we do need political change to survive! We need leaders such as Marine to foster national identities that are not openly racist but do act as the basis of creating policies that are needed for the survival and well-being of European peoples. In the USA, we could use the Tea Party to foster the “citizenism” posited by Steve Sailer while making sure that the pool of citizens is closed as soon as possible.

        • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

          I would say the Republican Party is the non-racial vehicle you advocate. The way the GOP handled “immigration reform” (amnesty for 11+ million illegal aliens and a doubling of legal immigration) is illustrative. It was predicted by pretty much all and sundry posters on this site that the GOP House would cave in and pass “immigration reform.”

          I said it would not. I was right (barely). The Marine Le Pen faction of the GOP triumphed over the UMP (conservative-in-name-only) faction. The GOP is where the focus of your non-racial-but-white-protective political strategy ought to be. Immigration policy is the test. Dave Brat’s overthrow of Eric Cantor the model, Jeff Sessions the guiding light.

          • Roger Noah

            I fully agree. I would also like to draw your attention the first Klan, the one that is mentioned in Gone with the Wind. Not the passel of robed clowns that constituted the second and third Klan movements. The first Klan was, to a degree, non-racialist since it had black members! Also, it was effective in its objectives of stopping the Reconstruction and restoring power to the South. Klan members infiltrated the various citadels of powers and effected the changes they desired, without overtly flaunting their Klan membership in some kind of exhibitionist circus. I wish our people knew more about the first Klan of Nathan Bedford Forrest – the only one that set reasonable goals, and achieved them.

          • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

            Most interesting. You must be a historian. I doubt 1 in a 50 of even well-informed posters on this site know what you’ve just described. It’s first I’ve heard of the Klan distinctions you make or that there were black members of the first Klan. But it may well be a model of sorts — minus the robes —- for the challenge of ahead (if anyone knew anything about it).

          • Roger Noah

            It is all in one Wikipedia article 🙂

            Unfortunately, Disqus barfs when I post links. Please type Ku Klux Klan in Wikipedia, and see what it tells you about the First, Second and Third Klans. It has summary sections in the beginning but that is not all. It has details as you scroll down.

          • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

            Thanks.

          • anony

            Nathan Bedford Forrest has been a hero of mine from the time I did a paper in college on the formation of the Klan.

            In the 1920’s, the Klan had massive marches down Pennsylvania Avenue in DC. It was politically very powerful.

    • If we can’t mention race in matters like staggeringly disproportionate black-on-white violent crime, stick a fork in us, because we are already dead anyway.

    • B.A_2014

      How about we call a spade a spade.

      I don’t oppose muslim immigration into the west because of their sexist, homophobic and backward religion. I oppose their presence on racial grounds, and since culture (and religion) is an outgrowth of our biological make-up this is why I approach the topic from a racial. Cultural clashes are inevitable because we cannot alter of genetic composition.

      I oppose African immigration because well… they’re African.

      • Roger Noah

        You won’t get anywhere with that argument, you might even lose your job if (God forbid) your employer finds out. You care about your objectives, right? Not the dialectic or folk narrative that feeds into those objectives.

        You can oppose all immigration for fiscal and environmental reasons and for reasons of reciprocity and parity. How many Americans want to immigrate to Guatemala? Let us have a balance there! You can also oppose most asylum seeking because those lives are not actively under threat.

        You can oppose immigration from selected areas because of the potential for hostile acts such as terrorism, although other arguments might be more effective.

        Truth is not the best propaganda. What is folk-preservation for you might sound like a tribal attempt to corner the world’s resources by others. While there is inherently nothing wrong in tribal self-preservation, others might subconsciously sett it as detrimental to their own tribal self-preservation. You may not care if they see it that way – UNLESS they can do something to impede or decelerate the realization of your goals. In that case, it would have been better if you had tranquilized them with honeyed words while you steadily and stealthily advanced your own tribal goals. If they tell you that sub-Saharan Africans build Stonehenge, why should that get you upset? Let them feel happy and soak themselves with beer and TV, while you work on your objectives.

        • Charlie

          Hungarians don’t share the same ethno-racial aspirations as other European peoples, simply because they are not, an original European group…scholars have debated for decades, as to the original homeland of the Hungarians, from the Carpathians near the Ukraine, all the way to the plains and steppes of Mongolia…I presume that over the past 2,000 years, the Magyars, which is actually the correct appellation for the Hungarians, gradually Europeanized themselves through contact and mixing with various tribes of Europeans, namely Russian Slavs and Altaic Slavic peoples from Siberia and the steppes, not to mention, once they arrived on the Pannonian Plain, they came into contact with Germanic Saxons, and Latin Romanians, as well as Balkan Slavic peoples…they are probably one of the few ethnic groups, who never bothered to establish guidelines, concerning the dangers of miscegenation, which is why there are Hungarians who look like Swedes, and Hungarians who look like Chairman Mao…many Hungarians even have Khazar Jew blood in them, from the contact they had with the Khazarian Empire of the 8th and 9th centuries, of the Christian Era…the Magyars are probably the most bastardized people in all of Europe…

          • LHathaway

            “I presume that over the past 2,000 years, the Magyars, which is actually the correct appellation for the Hungarians, gradually Europeanized themselves through contact and mixing”

            Why have the gypsies been unable to assimilate? Simply as a ploy to frighten white people?

          • Charlie

            Because the Romany people, like the Juden, are incapable of assimilating into the Hungarian ethno-racial body politic…while the Juden, who are the most wily and unscrupulous practitioners of economics in the world, are able to participate into Hungarian economic and political life at will, the Romany are totally incapable of maintaining even a rudimentary level of civilization…like the various other races of the Third World, the Romany, in terms of culture creating and culture bearing, suffer from a form of “mental block”, which hinders any form of civilizational development…

        • LHathaway

          “You won’t get anywhere with that argument”

          I disagree. The first part of his argument is 100% spot on. The second half makes no sense at all, at least not to me.

  • Calufrax

    Wake up, Richard Spencer. Stop supporting Islamo-Jobbik and Alexander Dugin, who are both anti-European. Neither one is any kind of friend to our people.

    • Zimriel

      I don’t know much about Jobbik, but Dugin is a lunatic. Atlanteans? Really?

  • Epoche

    I really dont care that much about race or accusations of racism. I care about liberty of contract, freedom of association and the rule of law.

  • Ted Cunterblast

    Unfortunately, anti-Duginism festers in some of the less enlightened corners of the Alt Right movement. Maybe the conference was spiked by anti-Duginites and Russophobes among the invited speakers, or in Hungary’s government, or both.

    • Long Live Dixie

      Didn’t Dugin once say that he prefers blacks to whites, or something along those lines?

      • Ted Cunterblast

        This has been debated to death over at Radix. The anti-Duginites not only misunderstand his thinking, but they keep lying about him.

        • Zimriel

          And all that pro-Dugin stuff at Radix *still* hasn’t helped them any with Jobbik or Fidesz or – I’ll wager – anywhere else in East Europe.

        • ThomasER916

          The pro-Dugins keep pretending Dugin said things he didn’t say and means things he never said.

          Dugin is explicit when he said that race is not a historic agent. This is same bullsh!t we get from anti-White 24/7. Dugin is a Boris-come-lately.

          Not to mention, when the anti-Dugins (pro-Whites) quote him and post his speeches they’re deleted from Radix. I know. I posted Dugin’s speeches and they were deleted. You dopes are just as bad as Libtards.

          • Ted Cunterblast

            Like Yockey and Spengler before him, Dugin isn’t a White Nationalist. So the fact he doesn’t talk explicitly about race shouldn’t surprise you. Like I said, the anti-Duginites just don’t get it.

          • ThomasER916

            I’m not a WN either. You’re just stupid, indoctrinated, and anti-White. That’s what you don’t get.

          • Ted Cunterblast

            That’s all you’ve got? Typical.

          • Long Live Dixie

            I am also not a white nationalist. Defending whiteness far predates the post-1945 invention of white nationalism.

  • OhWow

    Imagine a black group being refused by whites to congregate and slamming it as “racist”? Blacks would claim we were trying to keep them from advancing and trying to hold us back.

    But of course when white people are trying to have pride or discuss issues affecting them, it’s a big no no.

    • Chris Granzow XI

      I was trying to think of an equivalent and what the result was. Recently, the black-supremacist (and truly racist) Nation of Islam planned a meeting in a black country: Jamaica. So how did Jamaica react? Did they claim the Nation of Islam was trying to destroy their “international image” and ban the meeting, as did Hungary? No. Instead they sent the mayor of Kingston to personally welcome them and to meet with them.

      http://www(dot)finalcall(dot)com/artman/publish/World_News_3/article_101774.shtml

  • Ted Cunterblast

    There’s also the possibility that certain individuals in the US government, aware of Spencer’s (and his wife’s) position on Putin and Russia, put pressure on the Orban regime to ban the conference.

  • ThomasER916

    If America was “racist” then we all know what that would mean:

    No more Affirmative Action.
    No more illegals.
    No more Muslims.
    No more Anchor Babies.
    No more Al Sharpton/race hustlers.
    No more ghettos.
    No more barrios.

    And no more Obama.

    Sounds like a good deal to me and most Whites.

    • Roger Noah

      No harm in fantasizing as long as we do not sacrifice real, achievable objectives on the altar of fantasy.

      Do not let your perfect be the enemy of your good.

  • jayvbellis

    Maybe a homosexual Lib Zionist publisher of the New Republic Magazine called Jobbik leader a “RACIST” and the Jobbik leader backed down. That’s what happened to Ron Paul.

  • I don’t see how the meeting can proceed if the participants aren’t even allowed into the country. Maybe they could all meet near the border, per secret communication, and then have the conference in a nearby country. Sort of like we did with the Shadow Conference a few years back.

    Also, in cases such as this, where authorities all of a sudden decide to deny entry into their country, do the victims have any recourse to get the money back they spent on their plane tickets? Hotel reservations? I’ve often wondered about this.

  • Kenneth Arrow

    Bring cameras and call the press. Let’s make it a freedom of speech issue. We are a persecuted minority now. If you do youtube videos I can translate subtitles to German, Serbian and French.

  • Robbie Cheney

    The mechanizations of the khazar ‘fifth columnists’ in various nations are always interesting. Between threats of ‘arrest’ over ‘digital crimes’, the very real threat of a biological weapon like Ebola and economic ‘mechanizations’ the Hungarian PM takes ‘advice’ from his khazar ‘advisers’ very seriously. Hoping Mr. Spencer makes as much ‘hay’ out of this as possible.

    • Roger Noah

      Honestly, I think we ascribe too much cleverness and too much malice to the “Khazars”. While they aggressively pursue their tribal good (“What is good for the Khazars?”) as they should, they are not hell-bent on destroying their host civilizations. That is a myth that take the responsibility of our failure off our backs, just as mythical toxic discrimination is an excuse for blacks to blame whites rather than themselves for their failures.

      Any pan-European movement that can succeed will have to be inclusive of Khazars. I suggest we go one step further and make our peace with the Khazars in our battle to keep Western civilization afloat. Ally with the Khazars! You will never be able to beat them, so join them!! Since we are faced with extinction, let us learn a few tribal survival skills from the Khazars.

      • Robbie Cheney

        The khazar parasite didn’t subvert their host nations and rise to world dominance overnight but it wil require a lightning and wholly complete ‘blitzkrieg’ to disable and dispose of the threat posed.

        After all, they’ve been repeatedly quoted as stating they’ll ‘take the world down with them’ if they are forceably ‘removed’ from world dominance.

        The khazar is ‘reacting’ to the ‘threat’ for all of the world to see.

      • Julius Caesar

        Roger, you say that the “Khazars” are not actually trying to “kill us off” and that is just an excuse for whites; you then go on to say that “You will never be able to beat them, so join them!!”. So which is it Roger, are they the master-race or are they not?
        I don’t understand why sides have to be taken when it comes to disliking Muslims and Jews (being that neither have the interests of white Europeans at heart). So to the question of disliking “Muslims or Jews”, I say:

        • Periapsis

          Rest assured, that are Slavs who detest both, and for good reason.

      • LHathaway

        “make our peace with the Khazars in our battle to keep ####### ###### whites afloat”.

      • Robbie Cheney

        Wondering why my response to your diatribe never posted? Hmmm…

  • If the Hungarian government had any interest at all in establishing for themselves whether or not folks like us breach or infringe upon the dignity of others, they need only read this site. I do my level best to ridicule people mentioned in linked articles who have voluntarily surrendered their dignity with their own behavior, but it is completely impossible to violate a self-respect that is intact in an honorable individual. Is the Budapest government really so afraid that someone might pretend to be “offended” that they will prohibit honest discussion?

  • jayvbellis

    American and English race realists (BNP) have tried at times to hitch our wagons to moderately successful nationalist, immigration restrictionist parties in. Europe without much success.

    Regular Whites in the USA and English Whites tend to just not like foreigners in General and think Right Wing racialist European intellectuals are elitists who look down on Their American culture (guns, NASCAR, Black thug football). Any hints of European nationalists reverting to the nationalist losing side in World War II brings back the cursed American/English knee jerk reaction that WE saved Europe in World War II and Europeans are just not grateful to us and should love all things Amurikan like Hollywood, fast food, George W Bush.

  • evilsandmich

    In response, we should organize a meeting of Liberian healthcare workers in Hungary. I mean, denying such a meeting would be racist, no?

  • Ted Cunterblast

    Breaking:

    The show will go on.

    • Sean Fielding

      I’ve read a few of your comments. You seem an intelligent and informed person. Therefore, I think you should consider changing your handle. It’s a small thing, but it puts our cause in a poor light, and comes off as immature, in contrast with the content of your posts

      • Ted Cunterblast

        As if having a different “handle” will make our allies or adversaries like me.

        lulz

        • Sean Fielding

          For our adversaries, I agree, but we don’t want their approval, we want their defeat.
          For our allies, and for the numberless masses whose opinions shift with the opinions of power and political fashion, they are human and humans tend to judge a book by its cover. The It is part of

          • Ron Cheaters

            What if that’s really his name?
            James Dickinson is an awful name, Richard Outhouse is another name. I knew an Emily Panty. Dora Potty. All British names, like mine.

          • Ted Cunterblast

            Our adversaries are going to disapprove of what I’ve to say anyway, so no concern there.

            And potential recruits will be swayed by persuasive argument, charm, style, and innovation, all of which some of us have in spades.

            I’m not sure why you find “Ted” so offensive. Should I use “Theodore” instead?

          • Sean Fielding

            “…potential recruits will be swayed by persuasive argument, charm, style, and innovation…”
            Does your handle display charm and style?

        • LHathaway

          It could make me potentially disapprove of what you say.

          • Ted Cunterblast

            I don’t care.

  • Tim

    “He was Hungarian, that is to say, not a Human Being…”- Slovak Proverb

  • HJ11

    Right.

  • Paulie Walnuts

    I suppose that Hungary hasn’t as yet experienced true “DIEversity”. Maybe a few thousand Muslims and Sub S. Africans would be curative.

  • JR Kipling

    I suspect this has more to do with Hungarian internal politics than anything else. By banning the conference they smeared Jobbik Hungary’s surging white nationalist party via its association with those (gasp) Americans. Hungarian multiculturalists could worry less about Americans and worry why Multiculturalism has become the most hated word in European history.

  • anony

    Why Hungary? Why not Detroit?

  • American_cavalier

    Richard Spencer, perhaps a bit to fast and overreach. Clearly the response of the Hungarian government suggests a coordinated response from multiple levels and countries. This requires serious political revolutionary preparation as the EU is literally a new Soviet Union. More clandestine outreach, smaller but more numerous meetings. Institutional development is required with this including standing committees, discussions with local police authorities, security services, and support from US institutions. Many of these activities will have to be covert. There is growing support for this inside government, mostly because the fools are realizing the Russians are getting in the game. Time to up your game Richard. This is real Cold War OSS stuff.

    • I bet Viktor Orban got a call from the U.S. State Department.

      • Periapsis

        Very likely that he did, or perhaps he was threatened by Israel or the Chabad Lubavitches that are in Hungary. They are a very secretive bunch who have a presence in every country.

  • Paleoconn

    Disgusting! Is Hungary really as sissified as the West?