Conservatives Say the U.S. Has Done Enough to Create Equality for Blacks. Young Liberals Agree.

Emily Badger, Washington Post, July 1, 2014

One last dip into a big Pew survey we’ve been discussing on the politics and policy views of Americans. Pew surveyed more than 10,000 adults earlier this year on topics ranging from their views of Hillary Rodham Clinton to taking the bus, and the report divides their responses along a set of political typologies that group respondents into generally coherent categories across the range of policy issues: i.e., the “business conservative,” the “solid liberal,” the young “next generation left.”

Across that spectrum, there is not surprisingly wide disagreement on racial progress in America and the steps government still must take to achieve it. Most of the results on this chart are fairly predictable: Conservatives broadly believe that the government has pretty much done all it needs to to ensure equal rights for blacks. Liberals, with one striking exception, overwhelmingly disagree:

NextGen

The views of young, affluent liberals stand out. In fact, they align more closely with conservatives than other liberal groups. {snip}

We know that the “next generation left” does support affirmative action (as do, notably, majorities of every typology other than the two most conservative):

AffirmativeAction

It’s possible, though, that young liberals support affirmative action more as a means to create diversity than to redress discrimination. In this next chart, 68 percent of the “next generation left” believe that blacks themselves–and not discrimination–are mostly responsible for their own failure to get ahead:

Discrimination

The vast gap between solid liberals and steadfast conservatives on this question is striking (these results also provide context to the widely divergent and passionate responses to Ta-Nehisi Coates’ Atlantic cover story this spring making the case for reparations). But so too is the gap striking between solid liberals–a group that’s highly educated, urban and well-off–and their younger “next generation” counterparts.

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  • MekongDelta69

    Why thank you Pew and Washington Compost for letting us know the results of topics that anyone who’s been on earth for more than an hour and has an IQ of 10 already knew.

  • If there’s a difference between “young affluent liberals” and “solid liberals,” it’s that young affluent (white) liberals are gentrifying some major cities and all of sudden see that they’re close to the undertow.

    • John R

      Good point. The younger generation is also more “diverse.” The White ones are running up against the “die-versities” more and more. They will shift right fairly quickly as they age.

      • propagandaoftruth

        Next generation left seems to be onto something. Interesting.

  • Samuel_Morton

    That last graph is encouraging. At least the only people who still believe that blacks are not responsible for their own behavior are ‘solid liberals’. And I imagine that a majority of the solid liberal group are black.

    What I don’t get is why so many people still support affirmative action? Are they really so foolish to believe in the diversity myth?

    • John R

      Solid liberals. If they mean blacks, I will say again, although I am sure the writers do not agree: There are no black liberals. The “solid liberals” are really black/brown racialists.

  • Luca

    Look at the opinions of the solid Liberals and then realize that they are running this country.

    • Sick of it

      A better term for them would be Communists.

  • me

    The times, they are a changing….
    Bye, bye, Baby Boomer Bolsheviks. You’re days are over.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    Notice that the overwhelming majority of all groups except for Solid Liberals agreed that “Blacks who can’t get ahead are mostly responsible for their own condition”. That shows how detached from reality and the rest of us that Liberals are.

    I would say that landslide vote looks promising for people voting to cut off the endless government spending toward blacks, but our government would never listen to America’s citizens on that matter never mind let us vote on it.

    • John R

      This study was apparently not broken down by race. The “solid liberals” are really black racists. In other words, EVERYBODY, even true liberals is starting to get tired of blacks and their excuses. Negro fatigue is spreading over the whole White population. Few true believers among Whites left, outside the media and academia.

  • Puggg

    To me I think the first thing we ever did to create equality for blacks was too much and a waste.

  • JohnEngelman

    I am surprised that there is still as much support as there is for affirmative action in university admissions. I would think white persons who went through the process of applying for school, going to college, and graduating would resent being rejected by some colleges for racial reasons, and would have seen that the blacks who attended the colleges they were admitted to tended to be less intelligent than the whites and Asians at those schools.

    • John R

      College administrators like it. As I said, one of the last bastions of liberalism left.

    • UncleSham

      People do notice, but they like it because blacks help with the grading curve. This allows young whites to party more and study less while still getting good grades.

      • JohnEngelman

        That is an interesting insight.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Our exchange about the new revolution got moderated. Ho hum. Some people see trees. Some people see forest.

          • JohnEngelman

            It was about time.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Nawwww. Ya big sissy.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Yeah, being the best of the worst does allow for more leisure time.

      • Hallie Eva

        Agree. A friend who attended public school in South Chicago, said being one of the few achieving students among black retard classmates paid off for him.
        His grades were over the top in comparison.

        • JohnEngelman

          It is often dangerous to be a white or Asian student in a black majority school.

          • Fathercoughlin

            or teacher

  • Adolf Verloc

    Excellent! More evidence that one can be progressive in politics and racially realistic.

    • M.

      I know I am.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Since the white male has become a castrated serf, I say keep expanding the Affirmative Action programs until they actually show some ACTIVE resistance. These sissified white boys who still live with mama, or at least her monthly checks, need a reality check. You know what they look like.

    • John R

      This kid looks like he probably has one testicle.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      As I scroll by this “diversity twink” again.
      Maybe the kid is just mad because he can’t get laid?

  • So CAL Snowman

    Can you spot the group that doesn’t belong?

    Blacks – I love black people, black by popular demand!
    Latinos – I love brown people, viva la raza!
    Asians – I love yellow people, the Red Dragon awakens round eye!
    Whites – I love White people, Western Civ is the best civ!
    Solid Liberal Whites – Whites are evil and responsible for everything bad, diversity is good!

    • Sick of it

      Shouldn’t the last group start with a J?

  • dd121

    AA is the gift that keeps on giving to the left.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I’ve said that, too. I would almost be willing to settle for AA in schools–so long as the playing field is level after that. But, it’s never level. Cradle to grave, never level.

      • dd121

        It’s so ubiquitous I don’t think most whites even realize they’re getting screwed.

  • John R

    Next Generation Left, are young people who haven’t really thought through on this issue. As they get older they will turn against racial preferences more and more. They are just repeating what they have been taught in college and what they think they are expected to say.

    • M.

      As leftists, they’re still surprisingly on the right side of the spectrum on racial issues though. I’m sure a non-negligible part of those leftists is race-realist. That part of liberals and libertarians has been on the rise these last years. Encouraging.

  • Sangraal

    Odd that people are generally in favour of AA, but generally see blacks as responsible for their own plight, rather than victims of discrimination. At almost exactly the same ratio. What’s going on there? Cognitive dissonance?

    • LHathaway

      Maybe they are responsible for their own plight because there is affirmative action favoring them?

  • Alexandra1973

    How does one “create equality”?

    Is that like making 2 + 2 = 5?

  • ncpride

    I know the moderators will not allow a response to one of my posts from back in May, therefore I can’t respond in kind, so this is for YOU, JJ Walker. Gloat all you want about Whites becoming a minority, with your grand delusion that all brown-skinned people will ‘unite’ to deal with our ‘racists asses’,( EVERY other race despise you) in the end, WE will have the last laugh because whether you like it or not, your kind are lost without us, as every single majority black place on this earth is a cesspool of crime, poverty and utter failure. YOUR people will STILL be at the bottom of the barrel, no matter if we’re a minority or not. It’s an IQ thing.

    Those half-breeds you seem to be so proud of are lost and confused souls who are to be pitied and nothing more. So, in conclusion, your rant has no logic, truth or honesty, but I understand those concepts are alien to you and your people.

  • Caucasoid88

    I think it’s time we just gave blacks reparations. Each white person over 25 in the US will have to give $5,000 out of their pocket. We will call it “Reparations.” We won’t call it “The Social Justice Payment Act” or “The Obama Exchange.” We will call it Reparations, period.

    That way, when blacks inevitably lose their money in the next year, we can say forever that reparations were paid. Then there is nothing else they can blame us for. Everyone would become a race realist within the next five years.

    Who am I kidding? They’d blame whitey for not giving enough.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Yeah, have like a national receipt. “Reparations paid in full–now shaddap!”

  • IKUredux

    Interestingly, they have found that young White Brits(I actually cannot believe that I am forced to describe a Brit as White. Once upon a time it was assumed), have less friends of some other bull shiite category than White Brits of an older demo. This is a major improvement. Because we are talking about Brits who have been completely immersed in multi culti genocide. Let’s just call them: the multcultgen. So, the multcultgens (I understand that the “gen” part might be construed as “generation”) are not so into this crap. That, I think is fabulous. I hope all the multcultgens all around the world, feel the same way. You know, the only way oil and water mix, is to constantly agitate.

  • Alucard_the_last

    Enough is enough. We can’t do anything for a group of who refuse to help themselves.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Just found this quote from one of my favorites. Thought AmRen folks would like it.

    “It is not an endlessly expanding list of rights —the “right” to an education; the “right” to health care; the “right” to food and housing. That is not freedom. That is dependency. Those are not rights. Those are the rations of slavery – hay and a barn for human cattle.”
    — Alexis de Tocqueville

    • Fathercoughlin

      The REAL Alexis?? Sounds fake. Did they say “health care” in those days?

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Let me back test it. I’m with you, brother.

        You may be right. There appears to be some controversy surrounding P.J. O’Rourke’s use of it.

        http[colon]//www[dot]firearmsandliberty[dot]com/liberty[dot]manifesto.html

  • AndrewInterrupted

    It’s a hustle. Modern piracy. Just no wooden ships and eye patches.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    The MMM: Mainstream Marxist Media.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Or send them back to Africa with a free pack of smokes in their pockets.
    We set up a country for them in Liberia.
    Go.

    • Ghost

      Don’t forget the crack pipe. They all complain about being brought here as slaves but I’ve never met, seen or heard of one volunteering to go “home”. After all, they’ll receive no welfare there. They may actually have to work to get by.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Well, plus they would be surrounded by other negros, and you know how dumb and violent those people are.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        And they turn back the ones with white blood in them. Apparently the quadroons and octaroons who come back to Liberia start running the place. Makes the locals nervous. Imagine that. Can’t imagine why they would be predisposed to nation-making with a little European blood coursing through their veins. Noooooo, really? Who woulda thunk it. <;-D

    • Fathercoughlin

      are EBT cards good in Africa?LOL!

  • r j p

    Conservatives Say the U.S. Has Done Enough to Create Equality for Blacks. Young Liberals Agree., Washington Post43 Comments

    But young liberals still think affirmative action programs are a good thing.
    Yong liberals agree? Kind of a contradiction.

  • ElComadreja

    There hasn’t and never will be any “racial progress”. Not only are blacks and mestizos incapable of playing on a level field the government and media compound the problem by glorifying and encouraging all the worst aspects of their “cultures”. Hopefully these young whites will wake up and see that a complete break is necessary but I’m not holding my breath.

  • ConcernedCitizen

    The so-called “next generation left” doesn’t seem to be very leftist in attitude at all. Interesting.

  • Fenny Famous

    Anyone who went to school with blacks saw them first hand do nothing productive, refuse to work, be disrespectful to teachers, blame others for their own responsibility then expect to have equal outcomes with hard working students who sacrificed their time and effort to become successful. “Racism” is not born out of ignorance but experience

  • Fathercoughlin

    That’ll get you the girls!

  • fatbaby

    Live around or work around blacks and you will learn real fast they are the white mans burden.

  • LHathaway

    This survey about ‘racism’ could be made a lot simpler. They should just check to see who is most afraid of blacks and the diversity apparatus that backs up their muscle and violence (if so needed). It might be a surprise to see other blacks are more afraid of ‘true blacks’ than even whites. It’s also well known that those closest to the top of the regime, in this case, those who are the most ‘sensitive’, truly know how things really work and Know they have reason to fear the ‘sensitivity’ apparatus and are more afraid of it than others. This is simply a survey of how much the respondent fears blacks and the diversity apparatus that places them at the top.