More Brits Signing Up to Fight with Jihadist Militants in Iraq and Syria Than for the UK Army Reserve

Tom McTague, Daily Mail (London), June 17, 2014

More British citizens signed up to fight in Iraq and Syria than joined the Army Reserve last year, it can be revealed.

Just 170 extra reservists enlisted over the past year–despite a Government target to boost the stand-by force by 11,000 by 2018.

But at the same time the brutal al-Qaeda inspired ISIS forces tearing through Iraq have been boosted by ‘several hundred’ Brits, ministers told MailOnline.

Terror experts believe there could be as many as 500 Brits fighting alongside the jihadists in the Middle East for ISIS (Islamic State in Iraq and Syria).

A senior government minister said: ‘There is a real problem about people going in and being radicalised and then coming home. There are several hundred who have gone from Britain that we know of. It is a worry.

‘To get to Iraq most of them will have to go through Syria, so the two are connected.’

Foreign Secretary William Hague yesterday admitted Brit will ‘inevitably’ be fighting alongside ISIS which he called the ‘most violent and brutal militant group in the Middle East’.

He said the majority of Isis’ members were Iraqi or Syrian but ‘it also includes a significant number of foreign fighters among its ranks’.

Mr Hague said: ‘As I have previously told this House, we estimate the number of UK-linked individuals fighting in Syria to include approximately 400 British nationals and other UK-linked individuals who could present a particular risk should they return to the UK.’ He said ‘some of these, inevitably’ are ‘fighting with’ Isis.

Shadow defence secretary Vernon Coaker said he revelation was humiliating for the country and needed to be tackled.

Mr Coaker said: ‘The government’s own figures show more UK citizens are joining ISIS than signing up for the Armed Forces Reserves. This is shameful, embarrassing and will cause deep concern.

‘We need to see action to ensure recruitment to the Armed Forces meets the targets set. Otherwise, Britain will be left with a dangerous capability gap.’

In the whole of 2013 the number of British Army reservists actually fell by 50 to just 19,150 at the start of the year.

Over the 12 months to April this year–a period during in which the Government claimed recruitment had improved–the number of reservists in Britain increased by just 170.

The Army’s stalling recruitment drive comes despite a pledge to raise the numbers of reservists to 30,000 by 2018.

The Ministry of Defence has insisted it was confident the target would be met–as part of plans to slash the size of the regular Army from 102,000 in 2010 to 82,000 in 2018.

But this would require an extra 2,750 reservists a year to be recruited.

The MoD said: ‘Although there have been a number of technical challenges, the programme is on track and the Reserves are now growing in size for the first time in 18 years.’

Foreign Affairs Select Committee member Mike Gapes said it was ‘shocking and very worrying’ that more British citizens were prepared to risk their lives fighting alongside terrorists in the Middle East than had signed up for the Army Reserve.

He said: ‘There are clearly a pool of people who are being recruited by these extremist groups through the internet. It is very serious and we have got to be very tough on it.

‘These figures show there is a minority of people who are fanatical and prepared to join extremist groups, but also that the Government’s recruitment to the Army Reserves is not going very well at all.

‘There are large numbers living in this country going to fight for these vile terrorist organisations and that’s very worrying, particularly if they are returning to Britain having seen what they have seen and looking to recruit terrorists back here.’

The revelation comes after former Prime Minister Tony Blair said British fighters returning from Iraq and Syria were the Government’s single, biggest security concern.

Mr Blair said: ‘If we don’t deal with the Syria issue then the problems are not just going to be for Syria and for the region, the problems are actually going to come back and they are going to hit us very directly even in our own country.’

He added: ‘If you talk to security services in France and Germany and the UK, they will tell you their biggest single worry today returning jihadists fighters–our own citizens by the way–from Syria.’

Charlie Cooper, an expert at the anti-extremist think tank, Quilliam Foundation, said the number of Brits signing up to fight in the Middle East would only grow.

He said: ‘People are going from Britain and the EU to fight for ISIS–the estimate is more than 500 and that number will probably rise.
‘If you want to go and fight jihad, ISIS, which holds a particularly extreme view of Islam and wants to create an extreme Islamic utopia, is a very attractive group to fight for.’

David Cameron’s official spokesman has acknowledged fears British citizens could be among the ISIS fighters in Iraq, saying: ‘Our security services and all the relevant agencies will be monitoring those types of risks very closely.

‘Clearly there is a very porous border between parts of Syria and parts of Iraq.

‘As the Prime Minister has said, the greatest extremist activity and jihadist threats to the international community are in Syria. We need to keep these things under very close watch.’

Immigration and Security Minister James Brokenshire, meanwhile, has warned any Brits considering joining the battle abroad that they will face jail in Britain for any terror-related offences–even if they are carried out abroad.

He said: ‘The Serious Crime Bill would extend the reach of the Terrorism Act 2006 so that UK-linked individuals and those who seek to harm UK interests, who travel overseas to prepare or train more generally for terrorism, can be prosecuted as if their actions had taken place in the UK.’

A Foreign Office spokesman has previously added: ‘People who are thinking about travelling to Syria to engage in terrorist activity should be in no doubt that we will take the strongest possible action to protect our national security, including prosecuting those who break the law.’

Mail Online approached the Ministry of Defence about the revelations, but has not received any response.

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  • David Ashton

    Said it would happen years ago. Those whom the gods destroy….

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      I’m fine with them fighting alongside Middle Eastern jihadists, as long as they’re promptly stripped of citizenship rights and no longer allowed to return to Britain. Let them rot in whatever third world hellhole they decide to wage jihad in.

      • M&S

        Eagle Squadrons, Flying Tigers, Lincoln Brigade…
        When your government doesn’t want you stirring up a sense of identity separate from state such that they /worry/ about 500 people in a land of 63 million, your government has gone starkers sir.
        Convince me that these idiots will be ‘more dangerous’ than the mass raping smiley cutting, honor killing thugs they already are, simply because they went and popped off a few rounds in some anonymous fight and came home?
        That’s what 90% of the Jihad Tourism came down to for Arabs ‘visiting’ Afghanistan under UBL’s vacation plan. Win a set of pants. Say you were there. Get an in with your uncle’s business or his daughter. Whoohoo!
        I’m not saying that these wannabe Mujahedeen are saints or devils but since WE want to get into Syria because WE want to direct South Pars petrogas (and maybe Israeli equivalent too) through Syrian territory to light up Eastern Europe, maybe the reality is that WE should not be judging others who actually have cultural and ethno-religious ‘patriotic’ reasons for going to fight.
        It’s a sad day when the only people who swing a pair are those who haven’t been beaten down by the leftist cultural doubleplusgoodthink into believing they haven’t the right to head off and knock some heads ‘if it stays in Vegas’.
        I am all for neutrality. But the idea that individuals represent a nation when they are not in uniform and are given no representation when captured as illegal combatants is a foolish invitation to excesses of other ‘legislated actions’.
        These are a primitive society which really has no place in Britain. They are anachronistic artifacts of a warrior religion that existed to fight and bred to further conquest. If that’s an unsettling thought for Britain, maybe Britain should consider another class of immigrant. I hear the Boers are in need of some help…

    • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

      There is actually an article on CNN online today claiming that Europe is threatened by returning Jihadists from Syria.

  • Einsatzgrenadier

    Terror experts believe there could be as many as 500 Brits fighting alongside the jihadists in the Middle East for ISIS (Islamic State in Iraq and Syria).
    _____________________________________________________

    500 “Brits” are not fighting alongside Middle Eastern jihadists, but third world invaders and their welfare-leeching descendants are.

    • The Verdict of History

      Precisely.

      The title of the article should read: “home-coming”..

    • SoulInvictus

      Thought the same thing. Brits should have been in quotes throughout that article. Because I sure bet there are loads of lily white Welsh or whatever signing up for that…

    • The good news is that when B-52s from Diego Garcia carpet-bomb them in the open, they won’t be going back to Britain.

  • Cid Campeador

    They not Brits. They’re nothing but “Bloody Wogs” who never belonged there in the first place.
    Any who survive the battle should never be permitted to reenter the UK. The West should not take part in any of it. Let them exterminate each other.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Indeed, if they return, they should be grabbed, then put to death by firing squad at a military base as enemy insurgents. They would use their training to kill white Britons next, that is why they are going to Syria in the first place.

      • Who really thinks they will be going home? The US will not tolerate Iraq becoming an Al-Qaeda sanctuary, and Iran hates ISIS because they’re Wahhabist Sunni, rather than Shi’ite. Most of these creeps are going to find new employment in Iraq as fertilizer.

  • MekongDelta69

    They are no more British than I am a Martian…

  • Frank_DeScushin

    The number of real Brits signing up for the Army Reserve is likely diminishing so rapidly because young real Brits no longer feel a love for a Britain that now seems like a foreign country. The same sense of love and obligation for their nation that their grandparents once had is forever lost. British officers now getting beheaded in the streets of London likely also acts as a deterrent to enlisting.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Why in the world would they take up arms for a government that favors everyone but native born white Britons? Why would they do that on behalf or hostile aliens who think nothing of squandering their lives? While at the same time, they render their families, or what’s left of them increasingly poor, marginalized and vulnerable without protection before the law? Why they do nothing to prevent the ever rising tide of assault, rape, murder, pedophilia, sex trafficking, drug trafficking and weapons trafficking into the nation on the part of Muslim invaders? Indeed why they hell should they fight for a government intent on exterminating them? If I was a young British man, I would sooner join a guerilla movement against the Muslims and their enablers than join the military. To join the military would mean young white British men turning their weapons on their own people, and literally giving their own country to the Muslims and those who cannot be named. If they should take up arms it should be for their people, and to drive out ALL enemy aliens from their land. England needs the same sort of revolution that swept through Germany in the 1930’s, namely throw the hostile aliens out on their ear!

      • kikz2

        hmmm.. i wonder.. what will it look like when the time comes and all of the ‘soldiers for citizenship’ or as Tzun Tzu would call them.. Mercs we’ve ‘hired’….decide they want to retain control of their vested interests in access to our military hardware? the training, they take with them, the hardware will take more planning.

        the same should be wondered about other now ‘openly’ hostile groups within the ranks of our natl guard. on another scalable front, we already know there is a problem with many of our border guards on this nationalist loyalty issue. gee, one would hope some think tank has pondered this and planned accordingly..

        i guess obama’s minions have pondered it, as they’ve relieved or are in process of relieving the state governors of all their apache attack wings/fleets, under auspices of economic $ustainability.

  • dd121

    Ain’t diversity wonderful? Pretty soon they’ll want to kill all of us.

  • Bowe Bergdahl with darker skin, a thrud world brain, a British/muzzie accent, and multiplied 500 times. This will not end well for the white population in muzzified, merry old England.

  • Truth Teller

    The Whites call themselves English and Scots, not Brits. It is the WOG loving media and politicians who call every thing that steps foot on English soil British. At least our messicans work as well as collect welfare. The Paki, afghani etc of England are all on life long benefit even while out of the country fighting British forces in the middle eastern wars.

  • 4321realist

    “More Brits Signing Up to Fight with Jihadist Militants in Iraq and Syria Than for the UK Army Reserve”

    And the white self-appointed weenie elites there will be ecstatic to learn that they’ll be returning home to practice what they’ve learned, because they despise Britain so much.

    And I have no doubt they’ll have many comrades in the UK who will want to join them.
    However, keep in mind that if anybody criticizes them for their propensity for crime and violence, he will be set upon by the diversity commandos and dragged off to the graybar hotel by the hair of his head, but it’s o.k. if the “brits” who return from jihad want to blow a few people up now and then.

    Such a small price to pay for diversity.

  • IKUredux

    TPTB will continue to describe the foreign invaders into White countries as French, British, German, etc., until they have brainwashed all of us into accepting this. Or, I should say, they will try with the complicity of the respective mainstream media in all Western countries. It will never work. It won’t. They think it will, but they have vastly underestimated the White human spirit. TPTB are trying to repress tribal feelings, they are trying in fact, to repress nature. Therefore, despite all their machinations, brainwashing, and punitive measures, it will NEVER work. It won’t. We are who we are. Nature and DNA say so. And, nature and DNA are NEVER wrong.

  • Ella

    Heard of stripping British subjects from their citizenship rights if they engage in terrorist activities???? Is this so hard to practice in these times?

  • wildfirexx

    Did Hitler have it right all along?…Saving a European homeland for whites.
    After fighting amongst ourselves and 20 million of our people killed in the second world war, look what we’ve become today! Will Hitler one day be remembered as our last Great White Hope, that we let slip away ?

    • DaveMed

      That was most certainly not Hitler’s intention.

    • Löwenmensch ᛟ

      ”What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our
      race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood,
      the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature
      for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the
      universe.” A. H.

  • NYB

    The fear is that they will return to wage jihad, but this will probably not be the most common threat.

    Guerrillas, buy their nature, are outlaws. This is why most guerrilla movements morph into organized crime. They know the arts of smuggling, extortion, secrecy and coercion. Canada has many former guerrilla fighters from the wars in Lebanon, Somalia, sub-Saharan Africa, etc. Few are interested in overtly carrying on the conflicts of their former homelands.

    On the other hand, they are adept at finding weaknesses in our society to exploit. For example, the Lebanese use their networks of family connections and small businesses to smuggle drugs across Canada.

    In the manner of secretive underground cells, they wage low-intensity war on us through crime, while enjoying prosperous Western anonymity.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    Won’t happen until Europeans rise up and doing whatever it takes to drive them out. If that takes slaughtering them AND their enablers by the millions, then so be it. The Muslims will slaughter them sooner or later, therefore Europeans should strike first.