Suburban NY Lawmaker Under Fire for Racial Remarks

SF Gate, May 19, 2014

A Long Island county legislator is rejecting calls from her fellow Democrats to resign after making comments about a predominantly black neighborhood that critics say were racially derogatory.

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Critics took issue with comments Birnbaum made last month during a meeting to discuss a community center in the predominantly black neighborhood of New Cassel.

Newsday reported that former legislator Robert Troiano, also a Democrat, read an account of Birnbaum’s remarks that he said came from a “collective recollection” of those at the meeting.

“She said, ‘Why would anyone want to go there?’ Then . . . she added, ‘It’s a bad neighborhood,’ and ‘It’s a ghetto’ and . . . ‘It’s full of those black people,'” Troiano said.

He added: “She then . . . whispered, ‘Come on, who from the rest of the town is going to go there? After all, mostly black people live there.'”

“She later added, ‘All they want to do is play basketball.'”

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She said Monday in a statement read to The Associated Press that she was “heartsick” about the pain her insensitive remarks had caused but would not resign.

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  • Evette Coutier

    Unreal. The level of liberal double think and hypocrisy is epic. They’d destroy their own kind for their power lust.

    • Oil Can Harry

      I actually worked in New Cassel back in the mid-90s and you wouldn’t believe the monkeyshines going on in that hood.

      • Evette Coutier

        The white folks most likely to be racists are ones who live in black areas.

  • Dark Crisis

    A moment of honesty…of course, I’m sure that’s how many of them secretly feel. Too bad their legislation will only encourage more ghettos.

  • [Guest]

    >>>‘Why would anyone want to go there?’ Then . . . she added, ‘It’s a bad neighborhood,’ and ‘It’s a ghetto’ and . . . ‘It’s full of those black people,’

    How can the truth be “racially derogatory”?

    • Sloppo

      It’s very hurtful because it’s the truth. If it were a lie, like saying “It’s a bad neighborhood,’ and ‘It’s a ghetto’ and . . . ‘It’s full of those WHITE people,”, nobody would bat an eye.

      • APaige

        You are right. It is more acceptable to be racially wrong than racially right. How many bad neighborhoods are majority White? I have used the following example: If one says they do not want to live in or near a Chinese neighborhood because of the gangs, crime, broken-families, disregard for education, filth, etc. people would tilt their head in disbelief and ignore the statement. If the same thing is said about a Black neighborhood, all hell breaks loose and the screams of racism ring out. The former is untrue and wrong and the latter is true and right-but the response is strange.

      • Al Rex

        She told the truth and should not have retracted those statements. Blacks are a cancer which will be painful to deal with as there is no medication which can ever cure it I wish that those White plantation owners in the south had picked up their own cotton and not brought here these sub animals here.

  • paul marchand

    Birnbaum wouldn’t live “there”, but she will vote for legislation that fines, via the DoJ, a sane and reasonable landlord attempting to protect his property and tenants by DARING to turn down a potential black tenant with droopy draws, as he exits his 1982 caddy blasting Lil Wayne.
    Of course, if whitey comes in, and is turned down for being stinky, the US fed govt won’t care one whit.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    All of the people condemning this politician likely also avoid the black ghetto she’s referring to. Nonetheless, the condemners have to pretend to be aghast because that’s how “good people” are supposed to act in New America.

    • TruthBeTold

      It doesn’t matter that they actually avoid ‘those’ areas. What matters is that they publicly profess the correct attitudes about ‘those’ people in ‘those’ areas.

      That’s the key to politically correct survival in public life.

  • dd121

    I’ll step aside, let the dems duke it out.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      Never, ever interfere when your enemies are destroying each other

  • And how did Ellen Birnbaum vote for President in 2008 and 2012?

    The same people she wouldn’t want to be in a rec center with, she put in the White House.

    Typical.

    For thee, but not for me.

    She probably loves NPR, too.

  • Tom Thumb

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and figure if she’s from Great Neck, she’s Jewish. Therefore, she won’t resign and she won’t be deposed.

    • Tim_in_Indiana

      They might make an example of her, as they did with Sterling.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Oops. Did I say that with my mouth?

      • Tom Thumb

        They haven’t done anything to Sterling yet. They’ve only made a threat. He’s still in control of his property.

  • Einsatzgrenadier

    “She said, ‘Why would anyone want to go there?’ Then . . . she added, ‘It’s a bad neighborhood,’ and ‘It’s a ghetto’ and . . . ‘It’s full of those black people,’” Troiano said.

    He added: “She then . . . whispered, ‘Come on, who from the rest of the town is going to go there? After all, mostly black people live there.’”

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    It’s a well-established statistical fact that neighborhood safety is negatively correlated with the size of the black population residing within that neighborhood. Why is this so controversial?

  • Whitetrashgang

    All they want to do is play basketball? I would think murder, rape, theft etc are more important to these people.

  • r j p

    The fabled rec center. They’re getting one now. And it will solve everything that ails blacks,
    or just become another place where they shoot each other with illegal guns.

  • 1gravity

    Great Neck, from whence Ms. Birnbaum hails, is heavily Jewish. The truth is, if it were true that all blacks wanted to do was play basketball, she would be ecstatic. If I read the tea leaves of public sentiment right, blacks command little respect.

    • JohnEngelman

      I wish blacks devoted more time to playing blackball, and less time to playing the knockout game.

  • JSS

    After what happened to Sterling you would think the non eskimos would realize that not even they get a pass for saying what everyone actually thinks about blacks. I hope she is forced out of office and has her career ruined though. I like seeing them destroyed by the system they have set up.

    • Dr. DA

      Let these devils devour themselves , its a fitting reward

    • TL2014

      Please be aware that just because Jews are significantly over-represented in leftist political causes and positions of influence, we are not all like that. I’ve stopped talking to half my family because of political issues. But the other half is with us. So I know this sounds trite, but please try not to generalize.

      • LACountyRedneck

        Didn’t sound like generalizing to me. He could have replaced “Jews” with non-Jewish “Whites”. The difference though is that near 77% of Jews voted for Obama in ’08, and over 74% in 2012, whereas around 45% of non Jewish Whites supported him in both elections.

      • PvtCharlieSlate

        One of the side effects of spending a few years in the Army is that you meet people from parts of the country that you probably would have not met otherwise.
        I have spent most of my life in the Northeast. In the Army I met Jewish guys who were apple-pie American mid-westerners.

  • David Ashton

    “Never apologize. Be ruder next time” (John Bright?). But it sometimes helps to think first.

  • Blacks have been “disrepected,” a word popularized by Oprah, I believe. The disrepector will pay a price in blood. Or if not blood, loss of job and/or shunning by lefties.
    This incident is good for our cause. Let the liberals destroy each other in a bloodletting reminiscent of the French revolution. Let them feel the sting of political correctness. Let them be worried about a slip of the tongue. If they slip up and the truth comes out, it helps to show how ruthless they are, even with each other. People do NOT like ruthless.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      The disrespecter has more support she can draw on than hapless blacks. Her ethnic group is far above blacks.

      • I agree with you in principle, but I must point out that Donald Sterling (nee Tokowitz) belongs to that group and it didn’t help him much. The more we can get liberals riled up against each other the better off we’ll be. Sterling was just two weeks away from an NAACP honor dinner and award.

    • LHathaway

      U know, I first heard word ‘disrespect’ and ‘respect’ emphasized on those day time shows where they have on criminals, gang members and the incarcerated.

      Whenever I simply hear the word ‘respect’ or ‘disrespect’, anymore, I simply assume someone is just that much closer to being murdered, and that the person who uses this word, for whatever reason, no matter the ‘tolerance’ training that might even be going on, is little less than a murderer. Certainly of the same mindset, and probably even promoting murder, if in a round-about way.

      I don’t even think, ‘hatred of the media’ causes me to think this way, or even knowing they are generally, not wrong, but completely opposite of what is right. That’s not it. I think it’s simply deductive reasoning. . and then a bit of self-satisfaction.

  • kenfrombayside

    Birnbaum doesn’t owe anybody anything. Repeat: she owes nobody an “apology.” Anyone saying that she insulted them is a lier. Her critics enjoy the power they have over her when she becomes squeamish.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      I have a feeling she’ll come out OK as long as she has media support, which it seems she does.

  • ncpride

    ‘Come on, who from the rest of the town is going to go there? After all, mostly black people live there.’”

    Everyone in that room knows she spoke the gospel truth, because they would never go there either, including the whiners calling for her to resign. Hypocrites through and through. I despise them, but let them tear each other up.

  • jeffaral

    She would fit well in anti-black Israel! Also no need to apologise there.

    • NoMosqueHere

      Israel is hardly an ethnostate anymore. At least 80 percent of its population is arab or african, and its african illegal alien problem is growing worse. And, of course, it is always giving away land to arabs in exchange for worthless peace treaties.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Israel is in the process of kicking out its African population, they even say they’d “be better off in Europe.” They’ve also negotiated with Australia to take some of them and have repatriated others.
        There are also those concentration camps and walls surrounding the country, which they guard with automatic weaponry. Want to immigrate to Israel? Be prepared to take a DNA test as a requirement.

        • IstvanIN

          Yeah, and the European countries and Commonwealth realms are stupid enough to take them.

  • trouble maker

    They should put up a section 8 housing project just down the street from where she lives .

  • Berkeley Guy

    What she says and whispers about is what many others discuss in private, including many non-whites. If what she said were untrue or just silly, then most people would not care. Right now, on this website, in public, at my university, and later at a job, I can talk about White people in a negative light. I can say things like “who would want to go there, since there are so many poor Whites?” “it’s a bad neighborhood because it is filled with low class Whites.” Whether I actually have these sentiments or not, most people will either ignore me, thinking I am silly, or they will ignore me because it is not socially fashionable to persecute people who talk negatively about Whites. What is happening to people like her and Donald Sterling is out-and-out bullying. A word of caution to bullies: you can change the way people talk, but you cannot change facts nor can you change how people really feel through bullying. If you want to expose someone for doing something wrong, then reason with them to show them and others that they are wrong in their thinking.

    If race was debated openly in public, then news sensations such as the case above would fade away.

    • LHathaway

      Have you read Dinesh D’Souza’s illiberal education?

  • guest

    “She said Monday in a statement read to The Associated Press that she was “heartsick” about the pain her insensitive remarks had caused but would not resign.”

    Apparently telling the truth (for once) is a very uncomfortable thing for democrats like her. But she’d feel a lot better if she stopped forcing herself to believe the lies she was brought up to believe. As the old saying goes, “The truth will set you free”.

  • QuinnTheEskimo9

    Imagine if Birnbaum were a republican. Imagine if she were white. We’d never hear the end of it.

    • TL2014

      She is white. Most Jews are white. Remember Sterling is Jewish and still got whacked.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        You might wish to see Jews as Whites, but Jews see themselves as a distinct people.

        If you can think of some things that these “White” jews have done to preserve White people and our cultures then please feel free to list them.

        • TL2014

          Let’s see: Felix Mendelssohn composed a piece that has been played for couples walking down the aisle, for generations.

          Heinrich Heine wrote poetry that is considered key part of German literary canon.

          Marcel Proust was a seminal French writer.

          Not to personally attack you, but what have YOU contributed to “white” (Western European?) culture other than posting on AmRen? Why is it that whites who also happen to be Jewish (where did you get the idea that Jews don’t consider themselves white? I am Jewish and most definitely white) need to pass a contributions test to be considered “white”?

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            When push comes to shove and it will, who will you side with? we Whites who will soon have no homeland, living space or resources? Or a country that protects its people with walls, borders that matter, automatic weaponry and sits on a pile of nuclear material? A country that will admit YOU because you have the right DNA but not ME or my family.

            I can’t join the Jews but you can. You can join my organizations but I cannot join yours.

            What do I do? I write a check, to this forum right here at the end of each year, a large check, that helps to keep this site up and running so YOU and others like you can continue to post here, despite the constant cyberattacks.

            Do you contribute financially to this site or any others that are specifically pro-white and advocate for the preservation of the White race and culture?

            That’s what I do.

          • TL2014

            First of all, how do you know I don’t contribute to this or other, similarly minded sites and organizations?

            Second, I can’t join catholic organizations either, can I? Whites in this country are divided into many different subgroups. I couldn’t join a polish-American organization, either.

            When push comes to shove, who will you side with? If you have, say, Norwegian heritage, would you gravitate towards that rather than the Italian subgroup?

            In this country, there is a serious racial problem. There are many white people of all subgroups and religious groups that are seriously deluded and are causing terrible harm. I think it would be more useful to try and unify, rather than deepen existing divisions.

    • NoMosqueHere

      I’ve said this multiple times, and it’s getting a bit tedious, but jews are not a race; they are a religious group. Their racial characteristics range from blonde haired/blue eyed to black african, no different than christians. I knew a jewish girl in high school; she looked like the queen of sweden.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Stop repeating it because you’re looking increasingly foolish.

        Jews are a race, even they say so.

        http //www timesofisrael com/russian-speakers-who-want-to-immigrate-could-need-dna-test/

        No Jew identifies with blacks.

  • NoMosqueHere

    She’s a hypocrite, just like most of her constituents.

  • MBlanc46

    Sounds reasonable to me.

  • Al Rex

    “She later added, ‘All they want to do is play basketball.’”

    She got that right.

  • LACountyRedneck

    Yeah but to most sheep he’s White.
    “I’m not White. I’m Jewish.” Mike Wallace of “60 Minutes” fame.

  • WR_the_realist

    I used to live quite close to that neighborhood. Birnbaum is right. No white person is going to go anywhere near that community center, and the blacks will only want it to play basketball in.

  • silviosilver

    Seems the real creep in this story is Troiano for trying to score some cheap political points over a rival while it’s almost certain he himself feels no differently.

  • LHathaway

    haha you can’t win with blacks. Even liberals can’t win with blacks. They’re willing to kill whites to try, however.

  • Dave4088

    Wouldn’t it be ironic if Birnbaum was a donor to the SPLC or ADL?

  • LHathaway

    Censorship is completely race neutral. If it occurs, the only issue is what is being censored and who is doing the censoring and why, and from a practical standpoint, and not theoretical (the way i’ve broached it), the issue is only, how anti-white is the censoring intent?

    I personally favor censorship. I got the idea from reading Lenin and Mao who argued persuasively enough favoring censorship. Perhaps that shows why we need censorship.

    Perhaps this lady is thinking long term and just wants to be on the winning team. Because in the end, whites, liberals and conservatives, will vote with us. The only question being, will they vote for racial separation in NAmerica or for a reservation for Whites. The sooner they vote with us, and they will eventually, the more territory physical territory we likely get.

    So we need the ‘leftists’ on our side. After we get our own territory, then we can begin social justice efforts, and can begin removing the most offensive and longest active “‘anti-racists'” from our midst, where ever they try and hide. I don’t make such a statement to ‘sway reader opinion’ because I’m not being very persuasive right now, either way, and I don’t favor such a ‘stick’ method because I’m not a leftist. I do believe justice is coming. Our new nation, will perhaps, put the most radical among us in charge of such a justice effort, to try and limit any atrocities (other than the atrocity of being dropped off at the border in the middle of the night). Justice demands an account or reckoning. Unfortunately, I won’t live to see the score settled. But I believe it will one day happen. This lady is causing enough doubt, here, so She’d never be considered?

  • Ike Eichenberg

    Truth hurts.

  • Mrs. Rabinowitz

    Lol, the libs always talk like this because they say they get away with it.

  • Peter Connor

    She won’t have to resign, she’s a democrat.

  • none of your business

    The single best predictor of violent crime in every US state and DC is the percentage of the population that is black or hispanic. It’s a 0.81 correlation, compared to a 0.35 correlation for level of poverty, 0.36 for education & unemployment figures.

  • bubo

    She told the truth, which is an unforgivable sin in this country. The politicians know that “community centers” in black areas become hangouts for thugs, drug dealing and crime, fights,assaults etc., yet they force white taxpayers to pay for these things knowing full well they can’t use them for fear of getting assaulted or worse.

    This country needs a reset badly. How much longer can we go on lying to ourselves?

  • LIBERTYSINCURSION

    “she was “heartsick” about the pain her insensitive remarks had caused” – The funny thing is that there was no pain caused by her remarks. This was just another opportunity to offer up one more victim for public sacrifice before the Gods of political correctness. These consistent public floggings like the recent Donald Sterling, or even Paula Deen incidents. Have much more to do with sending a message to others rather than the actual sacrificial offering, in this case Mrs. Birnbaum.

    Her publicly battered reputation and identity is meant to serve the same purpose as that which the Romans had in mind. When they would crucify a “criminal” and leave their crucified bodies along the road sides that led into Rome. With a message nailed to the cross of their now crucified victims, as to the offense that earned them their crucifixion. In other words, these people, Birnbaum, Sterling and Paula Deen. Are living breathing road signs that scream out to every White passer by, “HEY!!! – SHUT UP WHITEY, AND ENJOY YOUR DISPOSSESSION!”.

  • TL2014

    I suppose we can take out the spreadsheets and start the math to calculate damage vs benefit, if you think that’s useful. Personally, I don’t. I understand the resentment created by Jewish over-representation in leftist causes and leftist positions of power, but to blame “the Jews” for the current western predicament is simply misguided and won’t get you anywhere (that is, anywhere constructive as far as solving these problems).

  • JamalJenkum

    Anyone who is not black, and is forced to spend any time in a black neighborhood automatically becomes racist. It is impossible not to turn into a racist when being exposed to the most racist culture on earth.

    Did you ever notice that the ones who are always bringing up race are blacks?