NPR to End ‘Tell Me More,’ Eliminate 28 Positions

David Folkenflik, NPR, May 20, 2014

NPR announced Tuesday that it would cease broadcast of the weekday program Tell Me More on Aug. 1 and eliminate 28 positions as part of a larger effort to end the company’s persistent budget deficits.

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Ultimately, NPR’s total head count will be 7 percent lower than where it stood last year–there will be 9 percent fewer newsgathering positions. NPR has run deficits in all but one of the past six fiscal years, including the one ending Sept. 30.

Michel Martin, the host of Tell Me More, will remain at the network, as will the program’s executive producer, Carline Watson. They will be part of an initiative to incorporate the kind of coverage of issues of race, identity, faith, gender and family that appear on the show. {snip}

Tell Me More’s demise is the third for programs expressly designed to have a primary appeal for African-American listeners and other people of color. Tavis Smiley took his show to a rival public broadcaster after clashes with NPR brass over how much money the network spent to market his program, and News and Notes went off the air in 2009.

That year, at the depths of the global financial crisis, also marked the end of the midday program Day to Day; last year, NPR shut down the long-running afternoon program Talk of the Nation.

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Additionally, NPR maintains two related but separate efforts: the Race Card Project, a multiplatform effort created by host and special correspondent Michele Norris, and Code Switch, a team that looks at how an increasingly multiethnic America understands itself. Code Switch’s work appears both on the air and on NPR.org. Lynette Clemetson, who has been Morning Edition’s senior supervising editor, will oversee all three groups and will hire a handful of other reporters; those who have lost their jobs will be able to reapply for those jobs.

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  • dd121

    Who listens to NPR?

    • phorning

      Wealthy white liberals.

    • The most pretentious people and the biggest hypocritical phonies on Earth.

      • trouble maker

        Americans were raised on classical music before rock and roll came along , just watch any old war or drama movie and the emotionally tense parts are heightened by the sound of classical music. NPR is one of the few classical music stations that comes in all over America .I use to watch television until 1990 but didn’t get caught up in the commercials.

    • jambi19

      It is known in most major radio markets that rap music stations have some of the largest viewerships. Simply because 99% of black people refuse to listen to music not performed by black people. White people listen to rock, country, classical, pop, electronic (my generation) and unfortunately lots of rap and hip hop.

      • dd121

        Rap just sends shivers down my spine. Can’t stand it.

        • JSS

          It make’s me want to smash whatever it’s being played from.

        • Strider73

          “Rap music” is #3 on my Top Ten Oxymorons list, behind “dry water” and “holy war.”

          • Luca

            I’m going with “Black Scholar” as number one.

        • DaveMed

          The degree of the promotion of sociopathic behaviors and attitudes in rap music is quite frightening.

          Imagine putting out an album of ~10 4-minute “songs” talking about just yourself – strutting down the street, drinking in clubs, sleeping with women, observing their hindquarters, etc – and (almost) nobody else.

          That’s rap.

          • dd121

            I believe you but I’ve never listened to a complete “song”. I don’t know what the pathological themes are.

          • SentryattheGate

            Sounds like the jungle beat to me!

    • JohnEngelman

      Forbes 11/21/2011

      A poll by Farleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey showed that of all the news channels out there, Fox News viewers are the least informed…

      Readers of The New York Times, USA Today and listeners to National Public Radio were better informed about international events than other media outlets.

      • dd121

        Do you think this poll by liberals might be just a wee bit tendentious?

      • JSS

        NPR and New York Times fans are well informed about what? The latest leftist and state propaganda? If by international events you mean whatever the latest state department press release says then I guess your right.

        • JohnEngelman

          Forbes 11/21/2011

          In one major example, New Jersey poll participants were questioned about the outcome of the so-called Arab Spring uprisings in North Africa earlier in the year. A total of 53% of respondents know that Egyptians were successful in overthrowing dictator Hosni Mubarak. Also, 48% know that the Syrian uprising has thus far been unsuccessful in ousting Assad. But on balance, Fox News viewers were 18-points less likely to know that Egyptians overthrew their government than those who were not TV news viewers. Fox News viewers were also 6-points less likely to know that Syrians have not yet overthrown their government than those who watch no news, suggesting a daily dose of sound bytes from CNN at the gym, and headlines from GoogleNews were enough to surpass what average Fox viewers polled knew about current events.

          • dd121

            I hear what you said. I just don’t believe it.

          • JohnEngelman

            That is because you do not want to.

          • John, you don’t get it. Fox News is edutainment, mixing junk with reporting. I’ll bet Shep Smith’s viewers know as much as anyone. Hannity viewers? Not so much. Fox is not a hard news outlet. Fox is TV, while USA Today and the NYT are print. Big difference. Stop drinking so much liberal kool-aid and learn how to critique their nonsense.

          • Martel

            And 0% of NPR listeners understand the constitution, 0% understand the consequences of mass-immigration, and 99% think Islam is a peaceful religion. Priorities.

          • JohnEngelman

            The Constitution is vaguely written. Those who claim to stand in front of it defending it are really hiding behind it, hoping that the meagerness of their arguments are not noticed.

            The Constitution is the last refuge of those who know that their arguments are otherwise untenable, and that most voters disagree with them.

          • Martel

            Its a brilliant document, the only thing it lacks is race realism and a people willing to enforce it. Most voters agree with what the most successful political networks tell them to believe.

          • jane johnson

            Could’ve been a tad more specific on the equality thing though.

          • bilderbuster

            The founders thought that was so obvious that only a fool would have a problem with it.
            They thought the Immigration Act of 1790 spelled it out pretty well to foreigners.
            Only free White people of good character need apply.

          • jane johnson

            Wasn’t it Ben Franklin who said that we had a republic “if we could keep it”? When I first read that, I thought he referred to external threats, not that we’d be betrayed by our own elected government.

          • bilderbuster

            That quote has been attributed to Franklin and I’m certain that your latter take on it was how Franklin meant it.
            Of course the Founders were counting on this nation having a well informed and well armed independent White people as voters.

          • joesolargenius

            Each species protects it’s own survival to the best of it’s ability , modern technology has made it much easier for a woman to be self sufficient . This was a lot harder during the times of the American Revolution !

          • RealisticGuy

            It is an awful document.

            But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain – that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”

            – Lysander Spooner

          • Mike Lane

            The Constitution has not betrayed America. America…. or rather, its people….. have betrayed the Constitution and America.

          • RealisticGuy

            Woosh!

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            BLA BUH HEE DABBA INDA BIBBA BABBA HEBBAH!

          • r j p

            If s the last refuge and it is only used for untenable arguments, then lets repeal every amendment after the 10th.

          • JohnEngelman

            Lots of the folks who hide behind the Constitution defend it selectively. They will say that amendments they do not like were ratified improperly.

          • Alexandra1973

            There *were* amendments that were not truly ratified, such as the 14th. Whether you like the amendments in question or not is irrelevant.

          • JohnEngelman

            If you claim to support the Constitution you have to support all of it.

          • Alexandra1973

            Not the illegitimate parts.

            That’s like saying I have to accept a 14″ tire on my van when it takes 16″. Not going to happen.

          • JohnEngelman

            Sorry. In a civilized country people cannot choose which laws to obey, and which laws to disobey.

            I would like to replace the U.S. Constitution with a parliamentary system, but I acknowledge that the Constitution as it is written is the law of the land.

          • Mike Lane

            I support the Constitution as written and defined by our Founding Fathers. I support the interpretation laid down in The Federalist.

          • JohnEngelman

            The “Founding Fathers” were intelligent, and well educated for their time. They were not omniscient. Insights that may have been appropriate at the time are less likely to be so now.

          • Mike Lane

            Name some specifics.

          • JohnEngelman

            Many thought democratic governments could not last for very long. That was obviously wrong.

          • Guest

            They created a democratic government (my democratic I mean the loose definition). I don’t understand your point.

          • Mike Lane

            They created a democratic government. (By democratic I mean the loose definition). I don’t understand your point.

          • expitch

            Vague means unclear as written. It is quite easy to understand what the Constitution says. What it means when applied to a matter of law is another topic. It contains principles and some specific directions. They are all clearly articulated.
            The composition of the document involved some of the most articulate people on the planet. Have you read any of their other writings? Find much vagueness? If they were careful to make themselves clear regularly in prose, why would they settle for vagueness in a document that was to serve as the foundation for nation.
            You boast of arguing only from evidence and facts. ( I exploded that claim on another thread, which you might have deleted. ) Here’s your chance to try again. Cite passages from the Constitution and demonstrate their vagueness. Not generality or liability to interpretation but vagueness.
            I will hold you to same analytical standards that I enforced in my graduate classes in rhetoric and stylistics.

          • JohnEngelman

            Cite passages from the Constitution and demonst rate the ir vagueness.

            – expitch

          • expitch

            John, I’ve twice written responses to you. Neither was posted. Are you a moderator? Or in touch with moderators? Please look into it. You deserved a response, and other posters might find our exchange interesting.

          • JohnEngelman

            Click on my avatar, and send me an e-mail letter. We can continue this discussion off line.

          • SentryattheGate

            Well, most voters are not well-educated. Quality of voters is more important than quantity! Government education dumbs us down and succeeds in producing bigger government; imagine that!

          • JohnEngelman

            Just because voters disagree with you does not mean that they are poorly educated. People with graduate degrees were more likely to vote for Barack Obama than either John McCain or Mitt Romney.

          • Luca

            There is a difference between educated, intelligent and indoctrinated. if I read a book and recite the passages, does that make me educated and intelligent? An intelligent person reads all sides of the story or subject and decides for themselves, with the exception of hard scientific irrefutable fact.

            Most voters are choosing a winner of a popularity contest based on their low IQ’s, or indoctrination. That includes college graduates who repeated what they were trained to repeat.

          • JohnEngelman

            The concept of indoctrination and brainwashing needs to be abandoned. Those with graduate degrees tend to be quite a bit more intelligent than the population as a whole. They are better informed. They are capable of doing their own thinking, and arriving at their own conclusions, and they do.

          • Luca

            They are assigned what to read and must repeat it. They are “informed” by what they are assigned to read.

            When you read Zinn’s “A People’s History of the United States” you “learn” that this country was made great by suppressing labor unions, women and minorities. Is that true, and the whole story? Well if you don’t repeat that general thesis on each exam you stand a good chance of failing the course. I have sat in the same class with the young zombie drones and witnessed them being spoon-fed this propaganda. They read it, they hear it, they repeat it and read nothing else on their own.

            This does not make them better informed, capable of doing their own thinking or arriving at their own conclusions.

            It makes them indoctrinated and able to walk out of school with a piece of paper in their hands that basically proves they are good at learning to repeat what they were instructed to.

            They go on to re-teach others, or write for liberal media outlets.

          • JohnEngelman

            I was taught to believe pretty much the opposite of “A People’s History of the United States.”

            The history books I studied in high school had titles like “A History of a Free People.”

            I was taught to believe that the United States was the richest country in the world, the strongest, the freest, the most democratic, and so on. In particular I was taught to believe that every war that the United States fought in was forced upon the United States, and that the United States had to fight or cease to exist.

            This attitude was of course widespread, and lead the American electorate to support the War in Vietnam long after it should have been obvious that the War was tragically futile.

            In time I came to view America’s past and present more critically.

            I believe that young people should be taught to view the foreign policy of their country critically. War should never be given the benefit of the doubt.

          • Luca

            You should have read more on your own.

            The electorate did not vote for a war in Viet Nam, and any support for it in the early years was based upon a lie by LBJ, propaganda, fear and innate American patriotism.

            Young people should be taught both sides of the story, not just one or the other. There is the extreme Left and the extreme Right. Somewhere in the middle resides the truth. Today they are taught only the extreme Left.

          • expitch

            For instance, like the members of a typical department of sociology.

          • JSS

            I don’t watch or read any mainstream news so I can only speak for myself, but I already knew all of that. As for the brilliance of New York times readers I think it’s a very safe assumption that the average one believes all problems in the world are the fault of White males, Assad used chemical weapons and not the rebels, supported bombing Libya, that Putin is interfering in Ukraine but we aren’t, that Trayvon was an angel blah blah.

            Im not a Fox News fan either but I find that people who mock them are usually doing so for the purpose of simply feeling superior more then anything else. Your average NY times SWPL is just as utterly misinformed about the world as any non awake White person.

          • Martel

            “Im not a Fox News fan either but I find that people who mock them are
            usually doing so for the purpose of simply feeling superior more then
            anything else”

            Exactly.

          • JohnEngelman

            A number of years ago I read an article in The New York Times that said that liberals and conservatives like to have their opinions confirmed, and are equally prone to avoid exposure to other points of view. It said that liberals do not like to read bad things about blacks and homosexuals.

            Because I enjoy investigating different points of view, press bias is not an issue for me, but press honesty is. When a journalist makes a factual assertion it had better be true.

          • LHathaway

            honestly is your concern. . they u must prefer Fox to the rest of the news. . you must feel. . when fox went on the air, you must have said ‘thank god. I never thought this day would arrive’

          • JohnEngelman

            FOX News won a lawsuit in Florida protecting its right to lie.

          • joesolargenius

            Divide and conquer

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            YOU DONTS GOTS NO UNCLE BEN’S !!!!!!!

          • BillMillerTime

            When it comes to the question of who rules Egypt or Libya or Syria, the correct answer is: “Who cares?”

            Sean Hannity’s coverage of Florida v. Zimmerman was spot on from day one whereas NPR, NYT, WaPo, CNN, ABC, NBA, etc., repeated one lie after another.

          • JohnEngelman

            FOX News won a lawsuit in Florida to protect its right to lie. When National Public Radio, The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, and ABC make a mistake they publish a retraction.

          • LHathaway

            wow. . and they didn’t follow that up with ‘centuries of oppression’ Fox news viewers have endured (before switching to fox) making them, naturally distrust all news as a blanket lie?

            Maybe I should think more about this one (the centuries of lies), and be mad at you, John?

            I’ve joined the dark-side. They knew I had it in me. . ..

          • JohnEngelman

            FOX News supporters think facts they do not want to believe are lies.

          • LHathaway

            They should feel that way.

          • JohnEngelman

            Truth exists independently of their desires, your desires, and my desires.

          • SentryattheGate

            Yeah, all that’s just surface BS, no main stream media covers the deeper politics; the deeper, decades-long currents which really move the surface stuff that’s covered to distract us! There is conspiracy facts!

          • I have no doubt that the typical NPR listener is better informed than the typical consumer of most other media about things like existentialist sculptors in Uzbekistan.

            Ask the typical NPR listener about two certain names I’m thinking of, and they’ll return blank stares at you: “Channon who? Christopher who?”

          • JohnEngelman

            I had to look those names up myself, although the faces looked familiar.

            When Matthew Shepard was killed it was national news for months.

            Something like the torture murders of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian seldom gets beyond local news. Even then, the race of the criminals is seldom mentioned.

      • So CAL Snowman

        Wow who cares? Both groups are beyond saving and should be viewed with extreme contempt.

        • JohnEngelman

          I subscribe to The New York Times and listen to National Public Radio every day.

          • Garrett Brown

            That’s because you’re mentally ill. You’re also autistic.

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            yes, i picked up on that as well, a definite case of autism.

          • Alexandra1973

            I don’t know about that. My son is mildly autistic but knows to change behavior if it’s wrong.

          • Garrett Brown

            Your son has extremely repetitive behavior. If he doesn’t he does not have autism. Engleman shows all of the signs of being autistic and what’s scary is this is online thought typed text. Imagine what he’s like in real life.

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            IT SHOHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

          • LHathaway

            I realize NPR and PBS are ‘the only sources of information in the US not controlled by jews’ haha ‘in the world. . . But last time I listened to NPR is was one, totally opposite from reality, news story and info bit after the next.

            I mentioned it to the lady who’s car was broadcasting NPR, about the total bizarro nature of what I had heard and she said to me (noting one of the stories i mentioned), she said,,something like, ‘You believe in rights for Women don’t you’ something like that. I looked at her with a kind of dead stare and my jaw nearly hit my sternum.

            One day I’m going to wish I could give you that look. It was almost today

          • Explains a lot.

      • Ahnenerbe ᛟ

        What the meaning of informed? Could be least coerced.

        • JohnEngelman

          Well informed people are able to answer factual questions with facts.

          • Ahnenerbe ᛟ

            What questions were asked? What answers were given? I don’t buy into polls

          • JohnEngelman

            Forbes 11/21/2011

            In one major example, New Jersey poll participants were questioned about the outcome of the so-called Arab Spring uprisings in North Africa earlier in the year. A total of 53% of respondents know that Egyptians were successful in overthrowing dictator Hosni Mubarak. Also, 48% know that the Syrian uprising has thus far been unsuccessful in ousting Assad. But on balance, Fox News viewers were 18-points less likely to know that Egyptians overthrew their government than those who were not TV news viewers. Fox News viewers were also 6-points less likely to know that Syrians have not yet overthrown their government than those who watch no news.

          • Ahnenerbe ᛟ

            Yeah but that is just people in NJ, they are missing 49 other states. So you should have said FOX news viewers in New Jersey are less informed than ….

          • JohnEngelman

            What you say is true. I would be interested in a nation wide survey.

          • Ahnenerbe ᛟ

            What constitutes a viewer? So many ways to manipulate polls that they should be taken with a grain of salt.

          • Tom_in_Miami

            Where can this poll be found?

          • JohnEngelman

            I posted a website. It will take awhile for the moderators to OK the website.

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            YOU DONTS GOT NO KREPLACH!!!!!

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            YOU DON”T GOT NO BIX MIX!!!!

          • WR_the_realist

            I knew the correct answer to both questions but I also know they’re irrelevant. It the first case bad government was successfully replaced by bad government while in the second case bad government has not yet been replaced by bad government, although the U.S. is funding the side that wants to be the new bad government.

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            YOU DON”T GOTS NO BIX MIX!

      • Luca

        I think the word they should have used was “indoctrinated” not “informed.”

        Or perhaps the Fox News viewers were uninformed about the latest chants part lines and slogans broadcast by the MSM.

      • SpawnTaviousBlackness

        YOU DONTS GOT NO FENG SHUI!!!!!!!

      • WR_the_realist

        Anybody who gets his news from television, regardless of which channels
        he watches, is misinformed. I used to listen to NPR back when their
        stations actually played classical music. But they decided that the
        hip, young, Democratic, and non-white people they were trying to reach
        didn’t like it, so out it went.

        I also came to realize that 99% of all “news” is utterly irrelevant. I don’t care who wins an election in India, or why some airhead thinks the stock market went down 0.5% on Monday. Relevant news is usually suppressed by the mass media, because it doesn’t fit their agenda.

        The Department of Agriculture recently put in an order for 7000 submachine guns. Did NPR tell you about that?

      • DaveMed

        On the other hand, NPR listeners are probably far more likely to believe that Diversity is a Strength™ and that race is a social construct.

    • r j p

      What do you call a negro that can find NPR on the radio?
      .
      A cab driver (who works upscale white liberal neighborhoods).

      • dd121

        I wouldn’t get in a cab with one.

        • r j p

          I don’t anymore, unless it is an absolute emergency.
          They have installed count-down crosswalks in Chicago, and every negro cab driver watches them so they can slow up and get caught by the stoplight an thus screw fares by increasing the time on the meter. I have called a couple of negro drivers out on it.

          • dd121

            Bet he called you a racist.

    • Garrett Brown

      Sick, sick people. The other day they were interviewing a lesbian that only experimented a few times in hetero sex with blacks.

      • dd121

        What a delightful interlude that must have been.

        • Garrett Brown

          She wrote a book. Wonder how many of our enlightened young people are reading books like that now.

          • dd121

            I think they start ’em in third grade in the government schools.

      • SpawnTaviousBlackness

        The worst part about anything on NPR is the brain dead monotone that is used at all times. It is as iff they have been lobotomized and put in front of a mike.

        • Garrett Brown

          They could be recorded being lobotomized (and sodomized) and Terry GROSS would still be delighted and relaxed.

        • Pelagian

          Yep. And the use of the word “so” every 10 seconds.

    • bilderbuster

      Who except senior citizens listens to radio anymore?
      You can download your music and your phone will give you the weather.

      • dd121

        Isn’t that the truth. The technology to help me waste time just keeps getting better.

    • DaveMed

      Unfortunately, the local classical music station has NPR on the hour and from 4:00-8:00. So, it sometimes sneaks up on me.

      • dd121

        I’ll write you a hall pass for that.

    • Pelagian

      When Im too lazy to find a podcast, thats still the best thing on radio.

  • “Tell Me More” probably didn’t appeal to blacks because there was no monotonous malodorous music about b*tches and hoes.

    • connorhus

      I lol’d

      Hey I was up in your neck of the woods last night for the first time in about a decade and I noticed while trying to remember which radio stations I used to listen to that there was really only about three Hip Hop/Rap/RnB stations around now to quickly seek past. That seems down by about half from a few years ago.

      Also the traffic was NOTHING compared to what I remember. I know it used to take me hours to get from down by the Galleria to the end of 64 at I70. It was almost like driving in the country last night and that was at 6 o’clock or so. I left hours earlier than I needed to. Is that normal these days or just a fluke?

      • I don’t think the bell curve stations are fewer, it’s just that they’ve changed dial positions.

        As for the Galleria to Wentzville drag, just about every part of I-64 since last you were here has either been redone, widened, or converted to an interstate highway, and the parts that have been untouched are going to be touched this summer to be widened. Not to mention the new DBB span being built right now.

        • Pelagian

          Did you see there’s a big inquest afoot to see if the County Browns gave an advisory to watch out for gangs of blacks at South County (St. Louis’ only white mall)?

          • Not that in particular, but I do know that South County is getting more and more troubled. It’s not necessarily because the residential areas around or close to the mall are going black, but there’s a public bus whose route ends at the mall, and goes through the occupied parts of south city.

            A few months ago, some new ghetto shoe came out, and I know that there was a line of blacks at a store in SCM waiting for the time of its release, and the County Browns had to keep the peace.

            One reason why SCM is now being targeted is that Crestwood closed some time back. So blacks on the south side who want an easy trip to a mall have no choice but SCM.

    • jim b

      I’ve heard the show a few times. It was an hour of white guilt and glorifying blacks, homosexuals and “alternative” lifestyles. Made me want to smash my radio.

      • Luca

        After accidentally turning to that station I had to throw my radio out. It was covered in vomit.

    • Pelagian

      lol .. pretty much..

      Is there anything more lampoonable than a bunch of whites creating stuff they think blacks will love, but dont?

  • TruthBeTold

    This is a common issue.

    Generally there’s an initial incident that sparks blacks to demand media inclusion.

    Blacks complain they don’t have a voice in the media and demand their own programing.

    They believe it’s going to change everything for them.

    When they have their programs, network, newspaper, or radio station, they do nothing with them. The inciting incident which sparked their demands fads into the background and is forgotten. Eventually the program, network, newspaper, or radio station simply fades away.

    Remember BET?

    • r j p

      Robert Johnson sold it. He knew it would eventually be worthless.
      When cable channels get unbundled (the day I will subscribe) it will implode because no one will pay for it except maybe 50,000 blax.

      • TL2014

        Why are you still subscribing at all?

        • r j p

          I don’t have cable, OTA.

  • Tom Thumb

    Twenty Eight leftists finding out about the real world. I love it.

  • Lewis33

    On the few occasions I’ve been with somebody listening to NPR I have found that around fifty percent of all pieces (even “news) are grievance industry related.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    Code Switch, a team that looks at how an increasingly multiethnic America understands itself

    Ah, but is NPR “increasingly multiethnic?” I notice that they didn’t bother to state the current racial makeup of their staff, nor how many of the sacked positions were held by nonwhites. Interesting, that. I suspect that the reason for this is that they don’t mirror the “increasingly multiethnic” America that they gloat about so much.

    • RileyDeWiley

      Meeeshell counts for at least four races all by herself.

  • trouble maker

    I like classical music while I am driving as it reduces my desire to shoot any offending motorist and I will listen to any station playing it that comes in clearly , however I learned a long time ago that they had a liberal agenda so take any news with a grain of salt .

    • JohnEngelman

      FOX won a lawsuit in Florida to protect its right to lie. The lies of Rush Limbaugh have been documented since at least 1974.

      • Martel

        Anyone who votes for Obama loses his pass to discuss anyone else’s lies.

        • JohnEngelman

          The most damaging lie since 1980 was Ronald Reagan’s assertion that he could cut taxes, raise defense spending, and balance the budget by 1983 without cutting popular domestic spending programs.

          • jane johnson

            No, it was, “I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN (now let’s bomb somebody so Congress will have something else to talk about and stop this impeachment stuff)”.

          • JohnEngelman

            No one died when Clinton lied.

          • jane johnson

            Really? Read Chris Hitchens’ No One Left To Lie To, particularly the chapter on Clinton’s Wars, then get back to me.

          • JohnEngelman

            If you read the book with understanding, present the argument here in your own words.

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            He murdered Serbians.

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            YOU DONTS GOTS NO PANCAKE MIX!!!!!

          • LHathaway

            lol Reagan saved millions of lives, all our lives, by ‘ending the cold war’ even leftists at NPR debate that one. Or is suggesting that Now ‘historical revisioning’, already? It’s hard to tell with the way the major networks and NPR are so ‘honest’. And Rush Limbaugh, ‘lies’ all the time.

          • JohnEngelman

            Escalating the nuclear arms race when Soviet leaders felt their power slipping away was catastrophically dangerous.

          • Alexandra1973

            Do a Google search on “Clinton body count.”

          • Luca

            You mean as in Benghazi? Or when LBJ said we were attacked on the high seas by North Vietnam?

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            HE doubled the tax revenues. You are lying by trying to imply that he personally was responsible for the deficits. CONGRESS made the budgets and they MORE THAN QUADRUPLED the moneys that were spent. IT really doesn’t matter how much you increase income does it if one increases spending more. You show your true nature, that of a liar and a decker, You deserve nothing but the “YOU AIN’TS GOT NO PANCAKE MIX” reply to anything you post and I encourage people to stop responding to you with anything other than that.

          • JohnEngelman

            Tax revenues increased more under Jimmy Carter.

            The only item in the budget that increased was military spending. If it was necessary to increase military spending it was necessary to raise taxes to pay for it.

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            YOU DONTS GOT NO PANCAKES MIX!!!!

          • Mark Caplan

            Ronald Reagan signed all those horrible, out-of-balance budgets that MORE THAN QUADRUPLED spending.

          • SpawnTaviousBlackness

            HE did not MAKE the budgets . IT was either sign them or be forced to shut down the government.

          • Mark Caplan

            So Reagan was a timid, ineffective president who kowtowed to Congress?

            I have no recollection that Democrats threatened to “shut down the government” in the Reagan era. I think that’s an anachronism.

            The way our system has evolved, the executive branch prepares and submits budget proposals to Congress. All the budgets Reagan submitted to Congress were bloated and drastically out of balance. No doubt Congress then added to the imbalance, but it’s not as if Reagan’s original budgets were models of fiscal rectitude.

            Look, Reagan gave a blanket amnesty to millions of Mexicans and other illegal immigrants. His name should be an obscenity to right-thinking AmRendians.

          • JohnEngelman

            Thank you. Republicans need to be reminded of that.

          • Luca

            The most damaging Presidential lie of the 20th Century goes to LBJ and his Gulf of Tonkin speech.

            We will never know the true figures of how many people died as a result of his lies and the resulting actions derived from them.

          • JohnEngelman

            The War in Vietnam was tragically futile.

            However, president Eisenhower made the war almost inevitable when he refused to sign and honor the Geneva Agreement of 1954. That agreement forbade foreign troops from being introduced to Vietnam, it said that the division of Vietnam into North Vietnam and South Vietnam was temporary, and that there was to be an election in 1956 to unite the country.

            In his memoirs Eisenhower admitted that Ho Chi Minh would have won nearly 80 percent of that vote.

            Eisenhower also contributed to the War in Vietnam with his domino theory. Although the domino theory revealed a poor understanding of how Communism spread, it resonated with the voters.

          • jayvbellis

            Can the mods please mod here?

            The article is about NPR’s Black oriented programming failing to find an audience.

            It ain’t got anything to do with the Viet Nam war.

            Stop riding hobby horses and, in all honesty , this commenter can be a bit of a troll, nothing to do with Amren’s mission of intelligent , pro. White race realism.

          • JohnEngelman

            Intelligent race realism acknowledges the truth of the following comments made by Jared Taylor: “I think Asians are objectively superior to whites by just about any measure that you can come up with in terms of what are the ingredients for a successful society,”

            and

            “Well, it seems to me that if there are two racial groups that can live side by side in harmony, it appears to be whites and Asians.”

          • Luca

            Which has absolutely nothing to do with the fact of the LBJ Tonkin lie.

            The buck starts with Truman, not Ike. Each administration made mistakes but LBJ was the master-mind and liar who turned a bad situation into a horrific debacle and created the beginning of the end for the US.

            You talk about Reagan raising expenditures and lowering taxes, I never see you pontificating about LBJ who threw us into Viet Nam, continued the Space Program, Started the War on Poverty creating the foundation for the current welfare state and open the flood gates to immigration. What do you think all these programs cost us?

      • Luca

        The lies of the left are uncountable.

      • indoctrination_FAIL

        Mr. Engleman, in 1974 Rush Limbaugh was in his early twenties, and his broadcasting career–if it even was under way then–could have been only being a Top 40 DJ. What, exactly, could he have lied about, in any way relevant to any discussion in this forum, in that era?

        Nothing, I dare say. BTW, you and I are about the same age. I know whereof I speak.

        Perhaps you would like to clarify your assertion there. And cite some evidence, maybe?

        • JohnEngelman

          Thank you for correcting me. I meant 1994.

          LIMBAUGH: “Banks take the risks in issuing student loans and they are entitled to the profits.” (Radio show, quoted in FRQ, Summer/93)

          REALITY: Banks take no risks in issuing student loans, which are federally insured.

          LIMBAUGH: “Don’t let the liberals deceive you into believing that a decade of sustained growth without inflation in America [in the ’80s] resulted in a bigger gap between the haves and the have-nots. Figures compiled by the Congressional Budget Office dispel that myth.” (Ought to Be, p. 70)

          REALITY: CBO figures do nothing of the sort. Its numbers for after-tax incomes show that in 1980, the richest fifth of our country had eight times the income of the poorest fifth. By 1989, the ratio was more than 20 to one.

          LIMBAUGH: Comparing the 1950s with the present: “And I might point out that poverty and economic disparities between the lower and upper classes were greater during the former period.” (Told You So, p. 84)

          REALITY: Income inequality, as measured by the U.S. Census Bureau, fell from the 1940s to the late 1960s, and then began rising. Inequality surpassed the 1950 level in 1982 and rose steadily to all-time highs in 1992. (Census Bureau’s “Money Income of Households, Families and Persons in the United States”)

          LIMBAUGH: “The poorest people in America are better off than the mainstream families of Europe.” (Radio show, quoted in FRQ, Spring/93)

          REALITY: Huh? The average cash income of the poorest 20 percent of Americans is $5,226; the average cash income of four major European nations–Germany, France, United Kingdom and Italy–is $19,708.

          LIMBAUGH: “There’s no such thing as an implied contract.” (Radio show, quoted in FRQ, Spring/93)
          REALITY: Every first-year law student knows there is.

          • JP Rushton

            LIMBAUGH: “Banks take the risks in issuing student loans and they are
            entitled to the profits.” (Radio show, quoted in FRQ, Summer/93)

            Except that banks do make private student loans that are not backed by the government at all. There is this talk show economist who I can’t remember his name at the moment who talks about them all the time.

          • Luca

            Limbaugh is not a university or news outlet. He is a talk show host who uses humor, satire and exaggeration to make his points. Do you think Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow,, Keith Olbermann, or Chris Matthews are any different? They are 20 times worse.

          • JohnEngelman

            Limbaugh’s dittoheads take him seriously as a commentator. They believe everything he says.

      • Gina Tingles

        Tu quoque.

  • In libtard speak, blacks are an “underserved community,” thus the need for a quasi-government operation to provide them with news and high culture. Problem is, if it ain’t about Bouncy and the Kardashians latest sex romps with Negros males, the black audience isn’t interested. Let NPR do a sports show with some babbling hip hopping Rodman type and they might get an audience. But if it’s intelligent, the blacks will avoid it like the plague. NPR might as well play country music all day.

    • SpawnTaviousBlackness

      mmmm-hmmmmmm you gots DAT right Chyyyyl’. Deys black folks is watchin da jerry springer type shows where dey doos da ” you da baby daddy DNA test” and dah “no he aint yo baby daddy B****!” DNA test , and dey shows where deys gots da audience fightin and dey gots da guests fightin , and dey got transvestites rippin da weaves outta da udder transvestites haid. DATS what deys colored folks be watchin !

    • jayvbellis

      I highly recommend Black African American comedian Chris Rock’s 100% dead on commentary about the divide between intelligent! successful Blacks and.. “N&$&@&$” ? The comedy routine is now taboo.

      Chris notes that “N&$&@&$” avoid books and honest learning like Superman avoids… Kriptonite .

      Yeah, regular, lower class Blacks are not going to listen to NPR.

  • Mark Caplan

    The show that catered to the African American experience was moderated by Michel Martin, a graduate of an exclusive residence-only prep school in New Hampshire and, of course, Harvard University.

  • IstvanIN

    NPR is boring. Blacks don’t like boring.

    • Luca

      I would substitute “boring’ with “disgustingly boring.”

  • SpawnTaviousBlackness

    BWAH HA HA HA HA >>>>OH …this is …..RICHHHH!!!!! Did these dried up, humorless, dour, self loving white liberals ever think that there was ANY black person listening to NPR???!!!!!!!!! NPR would have to have black people on that it would consider a “negative stereotype” for a black person to listen. They are not going to listen to a walter willimas, a juan williams, nor a thomas sowell type. They want a foul mouthed, hostile, idiot who would go on rants of self glorification and rants about drug use and sex etc…. POOR POOR old white libbbb-rahhhhhlllllllllls, they just discovered that blacks don’t like them at all.

  • MBlanc46

    The smugness and self-righteousness of NPR would get up even an uptight white person’s nose. It must be just unbearable to blacks.

  • Biff_Maliboo

    Tell Muh Mo’

    • Garrett Brown

      Bout dat grape drank.

      • SoulInvictus

        Outstanding.

  • Pelagian

    Michele (“Call me Meeshell”) Norris. Blecch … what a moron.

    • Mark Caplan

      Michel Martin hosts “Tell Me More.”

      • Pelagian

        OK … thanks. Which one is the MEESH-elle?

        • Mark Caplan

          MEESH-ele Norris used to host “All Things Considered,” NPR’s evening news show. I hadn’t realized she was blackish. She didn’t sound black or Southern and she’s quite pale. You can see what she looks like on YouTube.

          • jim b

            Mee-shell is the reporter responsible for The Race Card Project.

    • Michelle

      Gawd do I ever hate Mee shell Norris! What a drip. She puts the emphasis on the wrong sill awbelle.

  • roadgeek

    NPR never met a wounded Palestinian they didn’t like.

  • Pelagian

    I heard one about Lesbian Chinese. (Or was it Chinese Lebanese?).

    • Pelagian

      Google
      Tycoon’s Lesbian Daughter Rejects Multimillion-Dollar ‘Marriage Bounty’ NPR NPR festooned this woman with praise as if she had cured cancer. It was revolting.

  • De Doc

    Blacks don’t generally listen to NPR. That’s pretty much a White bread thing (I include myself here). This is reminiscent of the time The History Channel tried to appeal to an African American audience by making Hannibal look like a sub-Saharan professional wrestler.

  • Pelagian

    Now can they get rid of the Saturday faux-retro titter-fest game shows they air? I could actually listen to Michele Norris more easily than I could that cr&P

  • Pelagian

    Anybody listen to Smiley & West? It’s a must.
    This weekly program from hosted by Cornel West & Tavis Smiley “features thought-provoking, intelligent and stimulating conversations.” The intro to this “intelligent” show sounds like the intro to a dance show like Soul Train. The hosts “fall out” a lot.

    • cherrie greenbaum123

      Tavis Smiley is a very angry black man. When he was on NPR I heard an interview with him and Hillary. Hillary tripped all over herself, worshipping at the feet of the “wronged” black man, sharing about how sorry us whites were how we treated blacks. Had to turn it off after about three minutes. That anyone would hire him for anything other than removing yard waste is absolutely beyond my comprehension.

  • RileyDeWiley

    I just listened to my first Tell Me More (Tell Us Less).

    It sounds like a news program aimed at blacks with IQs over about 110.

    I can’t understand why it didn’t get any traction. Just can’t fathom it …

    • Luca

      Because all those high IQ blacks are busy working in the Obama administration and are saving the world from all those dumb White people.

      They are also busy in TV commercials posing as doctors, lawyers, insurance gurus and police chiefs.

  • SoulInvictus

    Any waitress could have told them the fund drive phone lines would go dead during that programming.

  • SoulInvictus

    I would love for someone to explain why some sound like they’re chewing marbles. Even some reasonably intelligent ones do. I mean, I can turn off my southern drawl with some effort, so I don’t know if it’s an actual speech impediment, retardation, or what… fetal alcohol syndrome maybe?

  • lol… What was the sales pitch for that show, I wonder? “Hey, here’s an idea for a show. Let’s have a show for black people on NPR.” “They’ll love it!”
    The NPR station is the only station that plays classical music regularly, which is the only reason I listen to it. Occasionally I flip over at the wrong time and have to hear a little satanic liberal babbling as I rush to smash the off button.

  • MekongDelta69

    A long time ago, I requested AmRen run a positive news story every week or two (or whenever they could find one).

    This story qualifies.

    Thank you…

    • Herman

      To Mekong
      I have to admit you are right.
      AMREN’s stories are very grim.

  • none of your business

    I can’t even follow this thread because I always just scroll past englemann’s ADL ACLU SPLC AJC endlessly repeating propaganda. But since his nonsense appears every other comment I will have to pass on reading the rest of the comments.
    Scrolling past englemann only works as long as every other comment is not his.

    • Luca

      Read the rebuttals.

  • DelmarJackson

    I used to be a loyal NPR fan. I got most of my news and entertainment on NPR. Then I started learning about immigration. Then I started noticing a few things, and then a lot of things.
    I think the turning point for me was a show on Saturday from Los Angeles. It was on immigration and the Minutemen. The interviewer was interviewing a Hispanic person who described herself as a 10the generation Mexican American. She emphasized over and over her family was here before America and how she was not really American and she was angry at the minutemen as they were murderers.
    I kept listening to see when the interviewer was going to ask for proof of the Minutemen being a bunch of murders, or maybe at the end of the show clear up the fact, that the Minutemen were not a group of murderers. She never did.
    She let the story stand. I stopped listening. A few years later, I was listening to NPR do a story on the plight of poor people across America. A young woman in Maine called in and she was desperate, it was so sad. her life had fallen apart and there was no work in her town. At the end she revealed her one hope was she could get a job at the refugee center in her town that was giving aid to Somalian refugees.
    that was her hope for a job. The moderator said nothing and let it slide.
    I think a lot people that listen to NPR have their heart in the right place, but they have been brainwashed. Most of the shows I now see are really just enemies of the people they claim to be representing.
    To be fair, most conservative radio is the same way, it is boob bait for Bubba. The people are caught in in the middle.

    • “Then I started noticing a few things, and then a lot of things.”

      Well said. Sounds like the process I imagine pretty much all of us went through when it comes to the mainstream media in general.