Republicans Think Religion Could Help Them Woo Hispanics. They’re Wrong.

Aaron Blake, Washington Post, May 7, 2014

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{snip} In their quest to woo Latinos, Republicans really shouldn’t count on religiosity to move the needle in their favor, for a few reasons:

1) Latinos are leaving church–fast

According to a new report from the Pew Religion and Public Life Project, 18 percent of Hispanics identify as “unaffiliated.” That might not seem like a lot, but that number has almost doubled in the past three years alone, from 10 percent in 2010.

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YoungHispanics

So why are Latinos becoming less religious? Because they’re getting younger. While just 11 percent of Latinos over  50 don’t affiliate with a church, 31 percent of those between 18 and 29 are unaffiliated, and that number has more than doubled in the past three years.

Given the fast-growing young Latino population–more than half are under 30–that suggests that this trend will continue to a significant degree, as the Latino voter base becomes even more heavily weighted toward this younger demographic.

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Unaffiliated voters, as one might expect, are more Democratic than  religious voters. While Latinos favor Democrats 56-21 overall, unaffiliated Latinos favor them 64-16.

2) In politics, not all Christians are the same

Among the Hispanics who continue to affiliate with a church, just 22 percent are Protestant–compared to more than half of the United States population.

Why is that important? Because Protestants–and especially evangelicals–are much more likely to be Republicans than Catholics are. In fact, the only Christian group that skews heavily GOP is evangelicals, and only 16 percent of Hispanics affiliate with evangelicals.

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3) The GOP can’t even count on Hispanic evangelicals

Given that evangelicals are the most GOP-friendly group, Republicans are probably encouraged that the percentage of Hispanics identifying as evangelicals is rising. It increased from 12 percent in 2010 to 16 percent in 2013, according to the report.

But a closer look suggests that that trend might not continue.

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Almost all of the increase occurred among foreign-born and middle-aged Hispanics. Among the fast-growing 18-to-29-year-old population, the percentage who align with evangelicals went up just two points–a statistically insignificant shift.

Also–and here’s the kicker–even if Hispanics do become evangelicals, they’re still more likely to favor Democrats (48 percent) than Republicans (30 percent).

4) Social conservatism isn’t a voting issue

When it comes to issues like abortion, Hispanics are indeed more conservative than the United States as a whole.

In total, 53 percent of Hispanics say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, while 40 percent say it should be completely or mostly legal.

But it’s also pretty clear that many Hispanics don’t really vote on those issues.

Take evangelical Hispanics; 70 percent of them say abortion should be almost completely or mostly illegal and 66 percent oppose gay marriage, but they still align with Democrats by a significant margin, 48-30.

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  • “Fully funded welfare programs”

    That was former New Mexico Governor and former Clinton era Cabinet secretary Bill Richardson’s (*) response when asked what Hispanic voters want of the political process.

    (*) – Richardson is half Mexican, one-quarter Spaniard and one-quarter Anglo.

    • Oil Can Harry

      And of course had a white conservative given the same answer to the same question it would be hate speech and he’d be the new Donald Sterling.

    • The welfare issue will always be the sticking point. The Democrat party uses these tax-funded “free stuff” programs to buy votes. Any Republican party with the slightest pretense to fiscal conservatism will be unable to compete with Democrats in this respect. If the GOP gives up their relative fiscal responsibility, they will probably lose white votes faster than they gain Hispanic votes; they’ve certainly succeeded in alienating me – and a great many other posters here.

      • Or, there’s another alternative.

        The GOP should get into the gibsmedat games, but promise white people that their variety of gibsmedat will be better for white people, better and more responsible fiscally, and would hurt the NAM undertows.

        • What about those of us who wish to decide for ourselves how our money is spent, instead of having to hand it all over as taxes, just so career bureaucrats can make our spending choices for us? I don’t like the bloated, tax-and-spend nanny state at all, irrespective of who the beneficiaries are. If I wanted to live in a country like that, I’d move to Sweden.

  • D.B. Cooper

    YO! White guy here looking for a political party to support. I voted GOP for years, but will be voting straight ticket democrat from now on. It’s my way of showing you that it’s easier going after the white vote where an extra 10% is equal to nearly 100% of the Hispanic vote.

    • Monoculturalist

      Just vote for the Constitution Party or the AFP

  • MekongDelta69

    Good luck with that…

    You can’t beat a party that gives out ‘free’ stuff (i.e. all paid for by us).

  • Alexandra1973

    Mexico is predominantly Catholic.

    Take a US political map and a US religion map. Note that the most Catholic states are also the bluest states. Massachusetts, for example.

    • Oil Can Harry

      I will guarantee that the white Protestants in the Northeast are at least as p.c. as the Catholics there.

      They’re clueless on racial issues up there because they’ve traditionally lived in sheltered, all-white areas.

      • Medizin

        Maine, one of the Whitest states, worries about their rapidly declining White population, claiming they will be forced to bring in ‘you-know-whats,’ soon.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        I agree, but I also liked Alexandra’s comment since it offers a nice rebuttal to this myth about Catholics being more conservative than Protestants. In Europe that might be true but here in America, I think both are way too liberal on race, but when it comes to other issues,….I’m sorry, but I am going with my Protestants in regards to who is more conservative.

        Tired of hearing the “Catholics are more conservative than Protestants” argument on these websites. I see no evidence for it in this country whatsoever. In fact, I am far more likely to see the reverse.

        This post wasn’t directed at you, but it was mainly a response to the types of attitudes I have seen in regards to this topic for years in the comments sections of these websites.

        • Oil Can Harry

          Depends which Protestants you’re talking about.

          From what I can make out Catholics are more conservative than Unitarians or Episcopalians but less conservative than Evangelicals.

      • Katherine McChesney

        The politically correct “protestants” are those who are members of the National and World Councils of Churches. There are also true Protestants who refuse membership in both as they promote sexual perversion and abortion.

  • alex

    Hispanics are natural conservatives… yeah, right! And black men are natural husbands, fathers and providers.

  • Mexicans view politics as a spoils system. They desire to increase their numbers so they can take control and loot the system for their benefit. From San Antonio, to the Mexican border, you’re living in a thurd world system of petty graft, corruption, dishonesty, and inefficiency. Democrats rule the roost down here. Once in a while, the local paper reports of some of this, but mostly it’s ignored. This is the future USA unless illegals get the boot and the rest of them are disenfranchised.

    • IstvanIN

      On other words Mexicans live in Texas like they did in Mexico.

      • So CAL Snowman

        In other words, wherever you find a mexican you will find Mexico.

    • MBlanc46

      That seems to be the general view of Third Worlders toward government. They see it as a cash cow to be slaughtered and consumed, after which is magically regenerates itself for another meal.

  • Oh those naive Republicans!

    • JohnEngelman

      Republicans like to talk about the “social conservatism” of Hispanics. They really want more low wage workers so they can reduce the wages of American citizens.

      • Alexandra1973

        Agreed. When my dad was a meatcutter (in a Detroit grocery store!) in the late 60s-early 70s, he was making $20 an hour. That was a FORTUNE back in that time.

        What are they making now, barely anything above minimum wage?

        • JohnEngelman

          Computer programmers often make less than $20 dollars an hour now, when they can find jobs at all.

          For two generations the people who own and run the United States have been importing cheap labor and exporting good jobs. Both of the major political parties have been complicit in this.

          • I thought of you when I heard this song, in fact, for the first time, today.

            It sounds like an old song when you hear its studio version, and I think it was engineered to sound that way. In reality, it was cut and released in 2008.

            The lead singer has sort of a Will Rogers voice.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEs-RQ3fZ34

    • TruthBeTold

      I don’t believe they’re naive. I believe they’re liars who are trying to come up with desperate arguments to convince Americans we need Hispanics.

      Bush never believed in Hispanic ‘family values’. It was a talking point his administration made-up keep the traffic flowing north.

      • kikz2

        but don’t ya know.. the shrub dynasty have their little half brownie all lined up.. he just won ‘land commissioner’ or some such bs title here in texASS…..Jorge P Garnicia……Shrub….. the launch is a go, as they say……

        • TruthBeTold

          Prescott has issues:

          GEORGE P BUSH, the 24-year-old nephew of the Republican presidential candidate and a pin-up for the party, was arrested for burglary when he was 18, according to a report
          yesterday.

          A television station in Florida said Mr Bush was arrested
          six years ago for breaking into the house of a girlfriend in the Killian area of Miami.

          Police were said to have drawn up a report in which he was accused of burglary and “criminal mischief”, having driven his four-wheel-drive vehicle over two front lawns in the affluent suburb.

          But Mr Bush was not charged because his girlfriend’s parents declined to press the matter. The Republican Party refused to comment on the allegation.

          • kikz2

            heh! kewliez! thx, i definitely missed that one! got a link? ;D

          • TruthBeTold

            This story first came out when Prescott gave his speech for his uncle George at the convention.. He disappeared for awhile.

            It amazes me that this story isn’t better known and that the Republican party has been able to keep it under wraps.

            Try doing a google search; though it seems to be buried.

            Try this link:

            www thesmokinggun com/buster/george-p-bush/george-p-bush-stalking-758409

            Prescotts’ brother was also caught having sex with a girl in a car. If I remember correctly, they were both underage. Another story that quickly disappeared. Also “And in 2005, Jeb Bush Jr., then 21, was arrested in Texas on Austin’s rowdy Sixth Street for public intoxication and resisting arrest.”

            And let’s not forget the daughter/sister and her drug past and the mom who tried to get through customs without claiming merchandise.

            The whole Jebby clan needs to go away.

            You can google all this stuff but as I said, it’s buried pretty deep.

  • IstvanIN

    The younger Hispanics are mostly drug dealers who have little time for church.

    • Nancy Thomas

      That’s not only comical but absolutely true.

    • Petronius

      I’m afraid there’s a lot of truth in that.

      Down here the Mexican gang members gather at the local middle school in the afternoon, and they latch onto the Mexican boys as soon as they leave the school.

  • Nancy Thomas

    I worked in the hood for 25 years. Hispanics deeply resent whites and associate the GOP with white people. When they found out I voted for Romney they refused to speak to me.

    • JohnEngelman

      The Hispanics I know like me. If you treat people decently they usually treat you decently. This is not always true, however.

      • So CAL Snowman

        Of course they do Engelman, you’re practically Pope Francis at this point.

        • JohnEngelman

          That vulgar statement characterizes you and my other detractors here.

          When the insults start I know I have won the argument.

          • So CAL Snowman

            Your reliance on a personal anecdote to prove your point is hardly an argument.

          • JohnEngelman

            More frequently I rely on sources I find on American Renaissance, and by those who have spoken at American Renaissance conferences.

          • Martel

            According to Jared Taylor Asians prefer segregation and are nine times more likely then whites to join a gang. Taylor spoke at the 2014,2013, and all previous Amren conferences, He is also the owner of this website. Jared Taylor is the author of “White Identity” and “Paved with Good Intentions” and often writes article for a website he owns, which you can find at amren dot com.

            Byron Roth, speaker at the Amren Conference 2013 called Kevin Macdonald’s works on antisemitism ”groundbreaking”. Byron Roth is the author of “The Perils of Diversity”.

            I used to work with white Europeans in Paris, I consider them friendly and intelligent. Two of them said hello to me, I felt less lonely. I told mother, she explained to me that these are called ”friends”.

            Europeans built greater societies then Jews and Asians. I want Israel and China to become sixty percent gentile white. Unlike Asians and Jews who contributed next to nothing,everything in the world is invented by white gentiles.

          • JohnEngelman

            Jews and Orientals prosper in the United States because they do contribute.

          • IstvanIN

            For the most part Asians simply employ the advances and infrastructure we have already provided. They don’t actually contribute as much as Whites do in the sense that a Thomas Edison, Henry Ford or Werner Von Braun contributed. Jews are indeed a mixed bag, contributing (Jonas Salk), stealing (David Sarnoff), or destroying (Emanuel Celler).

          • Blenda Richter

            And don’t forget Einstein, plagiarist and thief par excellence…

          • Martel

            They contribute towards their own pockets, not the same as providing harmony and social integration.

          • Blenda Richter

            Martel refers to contributions to society such as discoveries, advances, inventions, art, architecture, and so on…
            Everything the world enjoys has been done by the White man. Without him society and perhaps this world would be a big steamy swamp of bubbling fecal matter.

          • MBlanc46

            You might try checking Nobel Prize winners in physics and Fields Medal winners in mathematics.

          • ThomasER916

            Nobel Prize is became a club in the 1920’s and no longer represents achievement.

          • Blenda Richter

            JohnEngelman always relies on the typical liberal methodology of “the personal is political” If it happens to JE or around him it’s already a high percentage statistic and should be taken as a benchmark or applicable criterion etched in stone. Talking about tunnel vision…

          • Nancy Thomas

            Insults are probably not be an indication that you’ve won anything John. It might simply be an indication that your supremacy nonsense has finally worn thin.

          • JohnEngelman

            My opinions are fact based,logical, and courteous. Posters who are poorly informed respond with anger.

          • Nancy Thomas

            No, not necessarily. Anger can rise for various reasons. You sit high on that perch, looking down, and after a while it grates on people. Has nothing to do with people being “poorly informed.”
            Has more to do with the ego inflation that you appear to suffer from, and people find it irritating, and then react in the normal human way that people react when they understand that someone thinks they are better.

          • JohnEngelman

            If I am mistaken, demonstrate it rationally. If you cannot, acknowledge that what I say is true.

          • What Nancy wrote is true, John. You often come across as self-righteous. I’ve noticed as well that frequently you ignore the valid points that others make, and simply proceed with your own agenda which includes citing some obscure or irrelevant fact. This makes trying to reason with you tedious at best.

            Yes, sometimes you make some insightful points that I and others appreciate. But I’ve noticed that it’s often fruitless to reason with you because you almost never quite ‘get it’ (so to speak). This makes some people on Amren frustrated in dealing with you. May of us roll our eyes when you comment – and rightly so.

            Sometimes the comments about you aren’t kind, but you have a way of grating on people that perhaps you don’t realize. This is why some people get angry with you – and it isn’t always because they have poor information or are irrational.

          • JohnEngelman

            I anger some posters by calmly telling the truths about race realism.

          • Nancy Thomas

            Your “truth” about race realism, generally speaking, is a reflection of the severe and pathological ethnocentrism of your tribe, the ego inflation of an entire group that deems itself the savior of the human race, and thus deserving to rule over the rest of us.

            I doubt that your SAT’s were higher than mine.

          • alex

            Nancy Thomas JohnEngelman •
            “Your “truth” about race realism, generally speaking, is a reflection of the severe and pathological ethnocentrism of your tribe, the ego inflation of an entire group that deems itself the savior of the human race, and thus deserving to rule over the rest of us.”

            While the tiny minority, the tribe is allegedly responsible for two world wars, controls Federal Reserve, European and American banks, media, Hollywood, European and American politicians and about to destroy white race. Can’t the tribe be a little bit proud?
            Do you have inferiority complex?
            How do you know that John Engelman is a Jew?

          • Blenda Richter

            I’ve been reading JE’s comments for a while and I can’t remember him telling much truth about race realism. Being a contrarian…that’s another story.

            Reasoning is not his bag, winning an argument at all cost is. That’s why some commenters get frustrated and irked and start slinging caca.

          • JohnEngelman

            These are the truths about race realism. Race is an important biological category. The different races differ significantly in average ability levels and behavior. These differences have evolved during a period of centuries and thousands of years in response to different population pressures.

            Although it can be dangerous to state those truths publicly, The scientific evidence for them is growing.

          • Blenda Richter

            Granted, “The different races differ significantly…”

            Now, if “These differences have evolved during a period of centuries and thousands of years in response to different population pressures.” How come over three hundred years of ‘population pressure’, if you will, negroes have not evolved one bit in America? Conversely, many have devolved.

          • JohnEngelman

            Negroes in the United States average 15 IQ points above Negroes in Africa. Part of that is white ancestry. Part is probably evolution.

            Also, evolution in the direction of higher intelligence and lower crime is not inevitable. It has to the the case that intelligent people have more descendants than unintelligent people, and that criminals have fewer descendants than law abiding people.

          • Katherine McChesney

            NO you DON’T. You anger us by behaving self-righteously. There’s nothing humble about you at all. You aren’t popular because you think you are more intelligent than anyone here. Your statements are ‘cut-and-paste’. Nothing about you that is original.

          • JohnEngelman

            Oh blah. I compose my own arguments using the internet to document factual assertions.

          • Martel

            You did not argue with him, he simply intervened.How could you have won?

            Odd statement. I’m still waiting for you to answer my questions.

          • Katherine McChesney

            No you haven’t ‘won’ the argument. It appears you have been confronted with the truth and you can’t handle it.

          • JohnEngelman

            The truth about what? When have I ever made a factual assertion that was not true?

          • Blenda Richter

            Actually, I think it witty. Not vulgar.

        • Katherine McChesney

          Thanks for the laugh. It needed to be said.

      • Nancy Thomas

        I am SURE that you have not worked with, or spent time around, Hispanics from East LA and South Central, or people who’ve just hopped the border, or people who’ve been brainwashed by years of ethnic studies classes and radical activist commie teachers.
        Go to YT and look at one of Ron Gochez’s clips. He would just as soon slit your throat as look at you.

      • Alexandra1973

        My father-in-law went to high school in Los Angeles in the 1950s.

        He said Mexicans were bad news even back then. You looked at one of them the wrong way and they’d jump you. The girls hid knives in their hair (kinda like Marge Simpson).

        • JohnEngelman

          I am confident that what you say is true. Fortunately, I have had better experiences with Hispanics.

          • Blenda Richter

            ‘Comeuppance patiently waits and waits.., untill you both meet…’

      • John R

        This has nothing to do with “treating people decently.” That’s what is wrong with White people: We think that just because we say hi to a dark skinned neighbor, that we have no issues separating us from them. I get along with black people I work with, probably better than liberal Whites do, as a matter of fact, (because, as a race realist, I know to be cautious how I talk to them. I don’t make the mistake of assuming “they are just like us.”), but I never forget that racially, they are the enemy. We have our interests, they have theirs. Don’t be seduced by friendly conversations.

  • So CAL Snowman

    God doesn’t give away free stuff, the Democrats do.

    • [Guest]

      I think the Democrats have created a god after their own image, and he’s a god of free stuff. They’re proselytizing with fistfuls of welfare checks, so it’s no miracle that their religion is gaining adherents.

      • Martel

        Jesus fed thousands, the government can feed millions. And no one knows where the money comes from, its a miracle!

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        And they love mocking conservatives by claiming that they know more about Christ than we do, and/or that they act more like Him (liberals do). I can’t stand it when they take scriptures out of context constantly for their own personal gain.

        • JohnEngelman

          Matthew 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

          Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

          Luke 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

          James 5″1,4-6 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you…Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

          • Those passages do not condemn wealth or riches per se. They condemn the LOVE of riches when they are greater than one’s love of God. Christ did not ask every wealthy person to give up their riches, but he does for those whose riches stand between them and God. In fact, it doesn’t even have to be riches. It could be whatever it is that takes greater love and devotion over God Himself. God will have no idols.

          • [Guest]

            Also, those passages are not calling for redistribution of wealth by force of government, which is stealing (although sanctimonious leftists characterize it as “charity”).

            Anyway, it’s interesting that we don’t hear passages such as the following quoted to justify a political agenda:

            • “Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.”

            • “…If any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”

            Those are not vote-gaining verses.

          • kikz2

            …and
            ‘render unto Caesar’ doesn’t?

          • MBlanc46

            ‘Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your
            possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven;
            and come, follow Me.”‘
            Matthew 19:21

        • [Guest]

          I look upon today’s “liberals” are the ultimate self-righteous hypocrites, Pharisees on steroids. Their theology is almost always in service to their politics.

  • [Guest]

    >>>…Republicans really shouldn’t count on religiosity to move the needle in their favor….

    The one true religion of all but white people seems to be the religion of group self-interest (especially racial and ethnic self-interest), and Democrats are the high priests of that religion.

  • Medizin

    Masochists = GOP

  • dave

    Me thinks the Hispanics aren’t buying the gay marriage scam along with abortions.

    • [Guest]

      They’re buying. When a politician offers them taxpayer money and other benefits with one hand while giving the thumbs up to so-called gay marriage and abortion with the other hand, they eagerly take the money.

    • Greg Thomas

      Hispanics will buy anything as long as there is something in it for them.

      • kikz2

        the illegals usually purchase goods with crisp 100$…….

  • TruthBeTold

    So why are Latinos becoming less religious? Because they’re getting younger.

    They’re more likely to join a gang than a church.

  • kenfrombayside

    Keep the pressure on your reps in congress. Giving 11 – 30 million (nobody knows for sure) criminal lawbreakers legalization pure insanity. Plus, they could sponsor their relatives; that would bring the total up to about 50 million aliens in our midst. Of course, these new citizens will vote for the vile democrats and their socialist giveaways. Most of them will be unskilled, uneducated, low IQ etc. Stop this outrageous bill now. Don’t sit on the sidelines.You are not wasting your time. The American people don’t want this bill. You have to do all you can do to stem the third world assault:
    – Contact your 2 US Senators and rep in congress.
    – after biz hours, leave a message on your DC rep’s voicemail. All US Senators have multiple offices so it would be a good idea to hit all of the. Remember, be civil and don’t threaten
    – go to NUMBERSUSA then go to the take action button. You will be able to send faxes to your 2 US Senators and congressional for free. (I also gave a $50 donation).
    – use Business Reply envelopes to state your opposition to America’s insane immigration policies and the proposed amnesty. Don’t give the parties any money.
    – join an immigration group like FAIR. Strength thru numbers!
    – go to the RNC & DNC sites to email them.
    – Use the media: call a talk radio program; write a letter to your local paper. If the media outlet is liberal, then talk about economic impact of massive third world immigration.
    – text everybody in your cell phone queue now.
    IF YOU DO OR SAY NOTHING, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM….

  • RHG

    The Republicans just don’t get that hispanics support Democrats because they view Democrats as bigger “useful idiots” to achieve their goals of reconquista and hispanic supremacy, not to mention government goodies. Once those goals are met they won’t have anymore use for white Democrats then they do for white Republicans.

  • none of your business

    Hispanics have the highest rate of abortions, the highest rate of teen pregnancies and high rates of unwed parenthood and single mother hood and very high rates of welfare dependency and crime. Because some go to protestant church every sunday and some claim to be catholic but as back home in latin America never go to church the idiot republicans claim they are conservative. What idiots, the republicans deserve to lose every election until they disappear like the Whigs and federalists.

    All they want is affirmative action and welfare.

  • WR_the_realist

    Republicans remain the stupid party. Is anyone surprised?

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    AR sucks. It is no better than CNN. Conceal the truth and portray a false truth. AR moderators are a joke and if JT is okay with that then with all due respect Sir, your website is junk.

    • Martel

      What the hell are you talking about?

      • DudeWheresMyCountry?

        AR is erasing posts and leaving others that were far worse. I am questioning the legitimacy of this site, there is no reason to cherry pick which posts to erase unless you are trying to distort the truth. AR needs to sack this moderator. If it doesn’t change I will be joining the propaganda apparatus that constantly tries to discredit this site. If you can’t be a beacon of truth then you are just a usefull idiot. Time to decide who you are AR.

        • Martel

          Some of my posts were deleted too. On Jewish and Asian issues, though more were allowed through. If the moderator deletes posts when they are vulgar or come across as nutty, I understand. Many ”antisemites”, like myself, often push these issues to hard and don’t understand it puts people in a difficult position. Usually my posts are allowed, since I come across as perfectly reasonable and remain courteous when discussing complex issues. If the moderator starts deleting my comments then its clear there is a bias. I will not start discrediting Amren as it would not help anyone, instead I would stop promoting Taylors books, something I do frequently.

          My advise is, even though such topics can be infuriating, try to remain reasonable, understand Jews are simply another ethnic group, though through talent and ethnocentrism quite influential. They are motivated through fears, some legitimate,some illegitimate and prejudices like any healthy ethnic group, excluding white gentiles. Many are raised to fear white gentiles, others are bigots. When you consider Jews evil by nature, and this comes across in your post, I understand why the mods think it goes to far. Unfortunately I have not seen which of your posts were deleted.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            I didn’t mention the unmentionables. I also thought that way too, that there was a reason to censor certain comments but after what I saw tonight I know it goes way beyond that. This site is not credible and I have lost confidence in it after what they did today. It is not a friend of us. Maybe it was just one stupid mod. We will know soon enough and if it is more than one person who is behind these censorship decisions tonight I will immediately be an enemy of AR and will work to promote its destruction. An enemy pretending to be a friend is far worse than an enemy acting like an enemy.

          • Martel

            What were the posts about?

            I think you are overreacting, and I don’t mean any offence. I like your comments, and have seen some removed a few months ago which I did not totally understand. The comments in question were basically jokes.You got to keep in mind that moderating comments is both boring and difficult. The mod likely has other things he would rather do at the moment, hence things can be interpreted poorly. He is nothing getting paid for it obviously. I will keep an eye on your posts to see what is going on.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            They were about a troll speaking of Sino supremacy while living in The West. You know if it was legit why leave the troll posts? Why let the troll ruin a conversation, then remove posts that were not innapropriate but leave the troll posts so it looks like he was the reasonable one? This moderator needs to answer these questions but check tomorrow, they won’t acknowledge anything and my posts will be gone. I can cope with the enemy being dishonest but I will not tolerate a so called ally site working to undermine us. If this shakes out how I think it will I will make it my mission to bring great amounts of bad publicity to AR. I will be active in helping discredit it.

          • Martel

            If I remember correctly JE was allowed to post an article on Amren, he probably had friendly discussions with the mod causing this bias. it is a clear bias,his provocative posts are often not deleted, while others are. But again, it is easy making mistakes doing a boring job. Another option is that JE is a mod, which I would find unacceptable.

            There is no legitimate other reason for this, and definitely not something as grand as some sort of ban on criticism of Asians. My main arguments against Asian immigration come from White Identity by JT. It makes no sense for Amren to oppose something they preach.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Why leave posts he made that say we are all mad because we can’t compete with them and remove posts that just say, I’m not mad, we just don’t need them? They give the impression we are all stupid, bitter guys that have no legitimate reason not to want them here in huge numbers. At that point they are no better than the left, even worse at a so called “white racist” site promoting such lies. If they would’ve just closed the thread or deleted all the posts that were part of that dialogue I would think to let it go. He kept mentioning Chinese supremacy. I kept mentioning that is isn’t about supremacy as we don’t seek to destroy them, they seek to destroy us. We seek only separation. They removed all that. But his hateful garbage is still there for the most part. I don’t like idiots saying I’m mad we can’t compete with them, I personally have both Asians and Jewish people who work under me. And to top it off he won’t answer the question as to why he won’t live in China, he only responds with comments of Chinese supremacy when nobody else spoke ofsuch a thing and nonsensical quotes from Confucius. If such an issue never gets to JT and only bored biased moderators decide these things then who’s site is this and what agenda are they spreading? Leftist sites trying to undermine us are par for the course, but AR doing it is unacceptable.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Hey, I take exception with you saying I consider the unmentionables evil by nature. I never said anything like that. Show me where that comes across in my post or retract it.

          • Martel

            I never said you did say this, it was hypothetical. I will alter it slightly to clarify it.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            I see. Thank you for your honesty. Yes, the thread wasn’t about that, it was about a troll’s China fetish and me offering him $3500 if he will move there, and if not tell us why. He won’t answer the question. Stupid AR, I hope it was worth it protecting a troll. And to top it off AR is censoring even posts of people who read the thread before it was butchered who just said it is wrong to cut all the posts and just leave his garbage. AR better address this or it will be time to join the fight against it. We don’t need fake sites. We need genuine sites.

          • Martel

            He rarely answers difficult questions, he usually brings up one of his few lifestories when he is stuck in a corner.

            Ps:If there is something about me which bugs you I will definitely change it for $3500^^

          • Grantland

            I don’t like your inability to understand that a tight-knit tribe or race comprises a Super-Organism that is greater than the sum of its parts; a team, a synergy. I don’t like your inability to understand that such a team that wants to prey on your race is a race-enemy, even if Solly the dentist is a friend of yours. Does the gazelle consider the predator that hunts it as evil, an inborn, genetic evil? I should think so.

            No $3500 though, sorry. 🙂

          • Martel

            That would mean a reduction of my ability to understand ethnic conflict and group evolutionary strategy. Should I take a cue from those who have been yelling at the top of their longs with no results, even embarrassing themselves for decades?

            I always advise being wary of other ethnic groups and monitoring the situation, that is reasonable based on historic evidence.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    All this is is Republicans further propagating this myth in regards to “hispanics having better conservative values than whites”.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Most white Republicans STILL seem to refuse to acknowledge that Hispanics and Asians vote majority Democrat. When someone constantly acts as if certain obvious easily accessible statistics don’t exist, I have lost all respect for them. But when Talk Radio hosts repeat the lies, that is all it takes for Republican voters to declare them true. After all, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh know everything.

    • Urbane Neanderthal

      You have to understand the establishment republicans are not conservative in philosophy.

      Their only philosophy is what does it take to get elected.

      When the demographics change, rinos like Crist, or Arlen Spector, or “conservative” Texas Governor Rick (used to be a democrat) Perry just move to the party most likely to get them elected.

      These republicans think they can moderate the democratic party with “moderate” Hispanics then continue their power under a different party and not have to put up with or pay lip service to the Republican base which they despise.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        I actually get more irritated with the white voters who support everything Republicans say, much more so than the Republicans themselves.

        • kikz2

          i know a bureaucrat in NC, who as a lifelong Rethug votes such a straight party ticket w/o question, she’d vote for Hitler, if they ran him……..

      • JohnEngelman

        That depends on how you define “conservative.” Establishment Republicans favor anything that advances the economic interests of the richest ten percent of the United States. A high degree of immigration does this by depressing wages and inflating prices.

      • kikz2

        religion, it’s simply wardrobe……to add convincing dressing…. so the xtian rural rubes, the decent simple folk are visually lulled into thinking ‘they’ are just like them….

  • Urbane Neanderthal

    The political motivation of almost every person with a >90 IQ is “which candidate is going to give me more free stuff?”

    It’s only the 100 plus IQ crowd that can easily do better than government handouts.

    Bottom line is you are never going to win a majority of the FSA votes unless you out bid the socialists.

  • none of your business

    Hispanic Catholicism is really a cultural thing like Chinese New Year or 4th of July. The religious men only go to church on Christmas and Easter, baptisms, weddings and funerals. Basically it is for old ladies. The only reason Catholicism is still the majority religion in Hispanic America is because they never worried about the enlightenment and there was a lack of Protestant missionaries. Now that there are Protestant missionaries in Hispanic America the Catholic church and its members will lessen.

    What Hispanics do like about Catholicism and Christianity is give to the poor because they are poor.

    • Katherine McChesney

      What Hispanics like about the Roman church is that Catholic Charities put them on the roles for welfare, TANF, EBT and Section 8 housing.

      • kikz2

        it’s also amazing how their charities get singular preference in prot areas and businesses… and in two personal instances w/a multi-national telecom, were basically compulsory with participation frm mgmt., or one would be committing social/career suicide for non-compliance.

  • none of your business

    If hispanics disapprove of abortion why do they have such high rates of abortion? Republicans are idiots,dumb as the blacks and browns they so ardently pursue.

  • MBlanc46

    Not that I give a fig about the Repubs, but their only hope with respect to the HIspanics is to deport as many as possible and don’t let any more in.

  • dd121

    Republicans are truly deluded if they think Mexicans are going to vote for them, ever.

  • Guest

    Latinos have the highest out-of-wedlock birthrates of any Demographic in the country. Republicans are beyond dumb if they think they can woo this vote.

  • Katherine McChesney

    This WHITE person DOES believe in God. And I honor Him by attending church every Sunday and making my contribution by tithing. Furthermore, I’m a dyed in the wool Protestant…..Presbyterian Church in America…the politically incorrect denomination.

  • Hunter Morrow

    Hispanics are such natural GOP voters that they have never produced anything resembling GOP governance in their own nations yet frequently support right wing military coups and vote for socialists and communists. They haven’t voted in a national election for the Republican party EVER. The past two presidential elections? 67 and 71 percent support for Democrats! Natural Born Republicans!

    Ha! No. Republicans are Natural Born Whores who don’t care for race and nation, only their filthy pocketbooks. Never forget Simpson-Mazzoli! 4 million hispanics given amnesty under Ronald Reagan. God, look at all the votes that secured for the GOP Millions of votes from Natural Born Republicans! People who don’t learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
    The GOP is a failure for the White race from our past and we need to abandon it.

  • JohnEngelman

    What you say is true. In order to create a civilized society a population needs to be several thousand years removed from a Neolithic environment.

    Hispanics are a hybrid race consisting descended from whites, American Indians, and Negroes.

    An inferior environment does not create an inferior people. It is the other way around.

    • MBlanc46

      It’s important to keep in mind that there are Mexicans and other Latin Americans who have 100% European ancestry, although they might not be well-represented in the population that’s invading us. It’s the Amerinds and mestizos that pose a particular danger to us.

  • Nami

    Why don’t they try putting shoepolish on their face? It helped romney during his Telemundo stint, didn’t it? Oh…wait, that failed too…..Why not, you know….appeal to them as people instead of appealing to them as a race?

    • ThomasER916

      Nice Sock Account!

      • Nami

        what

  • Tom Magee

    If you believe a Mexican cares when a Caucasian baby is aborted you must be living in wonderland. They are against abortion, for their own kind. For anyone else, kill away.
    They also love the dole. Mexicans are natural Democrats. That is just one reason why anyone that hires or harbors an illegal alien should spend time in federal prison.

    It is another reason why we should go imperialist and annex the Mexican territories all the way to Panama. Once the land is properly colonized and under the rule of law they can ask for admission into the Union and the states can vote on it.

    • IstvanIN

      Not colonized, settled. Colonization would just lead to another Latin America, South Africa or Angola. We need to settle those lands like we did with the US, Canada and Australia.

    • Laura Dilworth

      i think abortion is legal in mexico, and the abortion rate among mexican americans is pretty high

  • Epiminondas

    No matter how stupid some Republican sounds, remember there is always another Republican even MORE stupid waiting in the wings.

  • Carlos

    Instead of gimmicks like pretending to be more religious, the GOP should do what they said they would do and defund Obamacare. I think that’s a good start.

  • Ellis Kurtz

    The Republican Establishment’s post-2012 attitude to the Hispanic vote reminds me of a man who, when healthy, has nothing but contempt for alternative medicine, but when struck by terminal cancer, suddenly embraces every quack remedy in the book. Quite apart from the delusion that high-abortion, high-single-parent Hispanics are natural conservatives, there are the plain numbers. The ultra-pro-Hispanic, open borders, amnesty supporting, Spanish-speaking (sort of) Jorge W Bush got around 40% of the Hispanic vote. Romney, the advocate of self-deportation, would have needed to do much better to win:

    Will Demographics Really Destroy GOP? By Sean Trende – February 11, 2014

    [in a simulated rerun of 2012] If the GOP reduces the Democrats’ share of the Hispanic vote to 67 percent [from about 73%], Florida goes Republican. At 56 percent, New Mexico flips. Nevada and Colorado flip at 51 percent and 50 percent, respectively. Incidentally, Mitt Romney is still losing the Electoral College, 283 to 255. It isn’t until the Republicans win 63 percent of the Hispanic vote that Pennsylvania finally flips, handing Romney the presidency.

    There are very good reasons to pursue the Hispanic vote from both moral and policy perspectives, and of course every vote does help. But from a cold electoral calculus, the Democrats’ gains among Hispanics at this point yield very little fruit. In fact, if the Democrats were to increase their vote share among Hispanics somehow by another 10 percent, Republicans could nevertheless win the presidency by increasing their share among whites by just four points.

  • the same GOP that has pretended to represent working class whites for decades and then stabs us in the back by appointing anti-white supreme court judges? The same GOP that has betrayed us again and again?

    Why should I care about what the GOP thinks?

    Concentrate on getting ideas out into the public mind. Don’t bother supporting a party. Concentrate on voting for politicians who say certain things, no matter what party they are.

  • Marcus

    We can fix humanity without pushing other people away.
    The fear of life is the cause of all our anti-social, self-destructive, neurotic habits of behaviour and relationship with one another, and with the earth itself. We have found that a simple act that we call ‘looking at yourself’ washes away the fear of life and heals the mind of anyone who will try it just once:

    1. Close your eyes. Notice the symphony of sensations and thoughts about sensations rising and falling within you.

    2. Notice that you can move your attention to one or another sensation or thought at will.

    3. Now use that same beam of attention to look for the feel of what you would call ‘me’ – a faint sensation that is what you feel like to yourself.

    4. Try to ‘look at yourself’ whenever the thought of it comes to you. You cannot fail if you just try.

    That’s it, you’ve done all that needs to be done to bring you home to the beauty and satisfaction that are to be found in a human life lived without fear.

  • Ella

    About the only hope that Republicans have is to deport all the illegals and prevent more illegals from entering America. Republitards expect the middle class vote and don’t earn it.

  • Hearing the GOP babble about religion makes me less likely to vote for them, rather than more so. If I had a religion, it would be a very private thing, rather than something I would want to share with some buttmunch on TV.

    I want to see some no-nonsense fiscal conservatism out of these lying idiots.

    • MBlanc46

      “I want to see some no-nonsense fiscal conservatism out of these lying idiots.”

      But that would mean that they’d have to stop throwing money at their own constituencies.

  • Monoculturalist

    The State has become God and “Diversity” has become the religion.

    Lefties like you love it, but hold on……

    Too bad for you the whole bottom is about to fall out of this scam and there will be no more freebies for your kind or Affirmative Action.

    It won’t be too long before the fake GOP is wiped off the political landscape and a nationalistic party emerges to take their place.

    Whitey, you see, is getting shafted and the more your kind demands is at odds with what whitey can give, so very soon the new party will be forced to address the needs and concerns of whites.

    The future is going to be rough, hold on for the ride and pray to whatever god you believe in.

  • Katherine McChesney

    Churches who are members of the National Council of Churches and the World Council of Churches are apostate, politically correct and most teach anti-christ doctrine such as the lie that Allah is the same as the Christian God. I made no specific reference to the Methodist Church but I can tell you this that in my community it is tied to a communist-leaning party and it promotes perversion and abortion.

  • PouponMarks

    It always is and always will be about money with these constituencies. “Money is a synonym for “free stuff”.

  • kikz2

    part of the deficit in attendance could be that the modern architecture and atmosphere just aren’t the same old world-euro-gothic-baroque-rococo-esque spooky that many mexicans are used to/need…. many of the american catholic churches have holy jacuzzi’s in lieu of fonts…. so i’m sure the ‘vibe’ just isn’t the same for them….

  • What difference does it make . . .the primary political parties seem to be sleeping together
    on many issues . .I think their main objective now is just to keep the American voter off balance
    while the enemy pushes thru the objectives .. . .to hell with them all . . . Tea Party and Constitutional
    Patriots . . .the government has gone to HELL