DC Schools: $29,349 Per Pupil, 83% Not Proficient in Reading

Terence P. Jeffrey, CNS News, May 14, 2014

The public schools in Washington, D.C., spent $29,349 per pupil in the 2010-2011 school year, according to the latest data from National Center for Education Statistics, but in 2013 fully 83 percent of the eighth graders in these schools were not “proficient” in reading and 81 percent were not “proficient” in math.

These are the government schools in our nation’s capital city–where for decades politicians of both parties have obstreperously pushed for more federal involvement in education and more federal spending on education.

Government has manifestly failed the families who must send their children to these schools, and the children who must attend them.

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In 2013, students nationwide took NAEP reading and math tests. When the NCES listed the scores of public-school eighth graders in the 50 states and the District of Columbia, D.C. came in last in both subjects.

D.C. eighth graders scored an average of 248 out of 500 in reading, and Mississippi finished next to last with an average of 253.

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Some might argue it is unfair to compare, Washington, D.C., a single city, with an entire state. However, D.C. also does not compete well against other big cities.

The Department of Education’s Trial Urban District Assessments program compares the test results in 21 large-city school districts, including Washington, D.C.

In these assessments, the scores of students from charter schools were removed and the average reading score for D.C. public school eighth-graders dropped to 245. That was below the national large-city average of 258, and tied D.C. with Fresno for seventeenth place among the 21 big cities in the TUDA.

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  • MekongDelta69

    “The public schools in Washington, D.C., spent $29,349 per pupil in the 2010-2011 school year, according to the latest data from National Center for Education Statistics, but in 2013 fully 83 percent of the eighth graders in these schools were not “proficient” in reading and 81 percent were not “proficient” in math.”

    Now, if they had JUST rounded it off to $30,000/thug pupil, I’m SURE the scores would have been MUCH better…

    • APaige

      That is the liberal way:
      1. blame the failure on not enough money being spent.
      2. ignore the failure and keep spending money( ex: Head Start)

      • SoulInvictus

        The alternative being what?

        1. Cut the funding and close schools entirely.
        2. Send them home to definitely instead of possibly become, at worst criminals that will rob and kill you, or at best permanent drains on the welfare state.

        What would a good solution be? Serious question.
        And keep in mind, “send them all back to Africa” is fun to say but not something that will ever happen. That’s the kind of thing that bugs me on sites like this. It always just seems to be people venting and never any creative steps towards better. Usually I just lump it in with the northwest homeland stupidity, but seeing this level of antipathy towards education, on a site founded by a guy that graduated from Yale no less, is a little dismaying.

        • Montgomery Draxel

          Boarding schools run by ex-military.

          • jane johnson

            I was thinking that, by middle school, it should be obvious which students ought to be diverted to a vocational course of study, and that ex-military MEN would make great instructors.

          • SoulInvictus

            When I was a kid, and I think they still do, they had “alternative” schools for the children/teens with serious disciplinary problems.
            I never attended one but from what I understand their environment is regimented similar to what you suggest.
            If not, then yes I think that’s a good idea and something realistically possible.

          • APaige

            Don’t forget the cost of lawsuits because placement for students with behavior issues would have a disparate impact on students of color. You actually think ‘increased structure’ will help DeLaTrayvon become a well-behaved student who will add to society? Where is your ‘real world thinking’?

          • SoulInvictus

            The lawsuits are going to come even if these jackasses are walking red carpets to class. They and their slimy lawyers will trump up some slight or perceived injustice to make a buck no matter what.
            I think people and courts are gradually less and less tolerant of it. Either way, that’s whole different mess to deal with.

        • Alexandra1973

          Are there still reform schools in this country? That’d be a better place to “educate” these little thugs.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Impossible. Those sent “upriver” to reform schools would be overwhelmingly blacks and Hispanic therefore making them the racist product of a racist system.

        • Dr. Möbias

          Birth control as a mandate for anyone on welfare.

          Upvote for you for your post. I too get sick of reading “send them all back to Africa” and the poster gets multiple upvotes. Yeah, as if that’s EVER going to happen or is a viable solution.

          This country is too far gone (U.S.A.) the only solution is to carve out a homeland and guard it with everything we’ve got. This is what Whites have done in South Africa to preserve themselves.

          • APaige

            It did actually happen, and it is very viable. Just tell Black people its free and there will be no White racism to ‘hold them back’. (back from themselves) The nation of Liberia was created for former Africans in America. The capitol is named after James Monroe. This African nation was never colonized by Europeans. I have not checked but I bet it is a successful nation. HA HA.

        • Sick of it

          Send them to Mexico and seal the border.

        • APaige

          Eliminate the funding for Head Start. It is a complete failure. If they have to spend that money spend it on the gifted. The truly gifted-based on test scores and grades. Spending money on smart Whites and Asians is a much better investment. No more eliminating science labs because Africans and Aztecs do not attend.
          Cut the amount of administrators by at least half.
          Eliminate the Federal Department of Education and all money the Federal government spends on Education.
          Let the states, counties and towns decide the amount of money.
          Lets see if ‘local’ White leaders can explain raising taxes so DeLaQuifia can fail math while caring for her illegitimate child. Let White people keep their own money and spend it in their own schools. White communities have built schools for their children before there was a tax system or even a federal government. I am sure that Blacks and Hispanics have done the same…well maybe not.

        • obot

          Seems like the article went right over your head. The point is more money does not mean better results. Finland spends an average of $5,000 per student and has much better results. I bet we would get similar results if we spent $5,000 per student, but people like you would consider that antipathy towards education. We have to throw away another $25,000 per student to show that we care.

          • SoulInvictus

            Seems like any number of my responses went right over your head.
            No one would read my responses and think I had reduced the answer to being as simple as handing the schools a big bag of money with no strings.

  • Whitetrashgang

    Even the 349 per pupil is too much.Why not let black people homeschool their children and give them some extra money on their welfare, a lot cheaper and the same results.

    • John R

      Black people home school their children? Huh? Good one. Funny. Gee, for a minute I thought you were SERIOUS! Yep, you got me on that one! (Actually, I wouldn’t mind if they did that. Why? Because it would save money, and I don’t give a fuke whether black kids get “ejimicated” or not.)

      • Whitetrashgang

        Yes ,some my humour has to fly under the radar or it just gets deleted.

    • Alucard_the_last

      They will learn drug dealing and prostitution without home schooling but it will get them out of the schools so humans can get a real education.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Can you imagine how many students will kill their teachers? Now that is a teachable moment.

        • I yearn for the days of Blackboard Jungle

  • connorhus

    They didn’t spend 29K on those students. They spent 28K on social engineering for the bloated teachers, administrators etc. and their pensions. The same people who put on the “White Privilege” conference in Wisconsin. The same people who are facilitating the decline of Whites in general to fuel their own greed.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Yes. As a California teacher, I have the privilege of paying 8% — next year 10.5% — of my salary (social security is 6.2%) into a forced pension plan that pays me 55-65% of my salary after 30 years and is massively underfunded to the tune of $42.6 billion, set to run out in a few years.

      I suspect the bastards that have run my state into the ground, California, have already drained the teachers’ retirement fun, though.

      Some bloated pension, huh?

      • JP Rushton

        You would be lucky to see much of your pension at all.

      • connorhus

        After 50 some odd years of retiring a decade or more before the common private sector employee and having Summers off guess you jumped on the pyramid a bit late. Don’t expect any sympathy from those of us who have watched the government spend the SS money they took from us or threaten to raise our retirement age every year.

        You should never have gotten into the education scam to begin with.

      • Fathercoughlin

        Private sector? Guess what-blacks and hispanix are already IN the private sector with their “charter schools”–one in Chicago is named the “Soccer Academy” or some such horsesh*t–and they are stealing money left and right. Yes private sector if you mean white kids. Blacks? Not so much…

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          Remember Beverly Hall? She was the superintendent of the Newark schools and later was involved in the Atlanta test cheating scandal. When she left Newark, millions of dollars were missing.

      • connorhus

        It’s pretty obvious what your profession entails. Just read the article. 30K a year for NOTHING and protests whenever a public school system can no longer afford to pay people to retire a decade or more before productive employees.

        Let’s not even mention the constant indoctrination of our young White children or pushing common core standards. Either you are against what is going on or you are not. If you continue to work for them you ar epart of the problem

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          30 years minimum and age 61 1/2.

          Let’s close all the schools and let the kids roam around all day – hanging out at the mall terrorizing businesses, selling drugs or breaking into your home while you’re at work.

          Seems I’m doing you a favor by keeping the majority of teens contained during the day, indoctrination or not, LOL.

          And, it seems you are a bit jealous. Maybe you should have become a teacher, it’s great having summers off. I’m trying to decide right now whether to go to Hawaii and lay on a beach for a while or Alaska, keep cool and look for wildlife out of my binoculars.

          Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it.

          As for sympathy, why would I look for it from someone like you?

          You need to calm down and take the summer off, comrade, LOL.

          This is my last post to you. Maybe in the future you’ll find something else to do with your life besides rip apart teachers.

          All the best.

          • connorhus

            I have tried it. And I refuse to teach the Anti-White propaganda you seem to have no issue with. You are part of the problem and simply trying, like most DWL’s, to protect your gravy train.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            “the Anti-White propaganda you seem to have no issue with.”

            I don’t teach a thing. According to you, I put my feet up all day, do nothing and collect my salary of $30,000.

            It’s great!

          • connorhus

            Only 30K skimmed off the top for the industry in DC. I bet in Kalifornia you get quite a bit more than that and there is a lot more skimmed.

            At least while it lasts anyway.

          • Dr. Möbias

            You are attacking the wrong people, son. Teachers are the branches, not the root of the problem. Do you say the same thing about white nurses and doctors? Should they refuse to treat black patients lest they be “part of the problem?”

            How about the media. Do you subscribe to a newspaper, read magazines watch the NBA or NFL, view the news on NBC, ABC, FOX, CNN or use Facebook?

            Those are all controlled by mortal enemies of the white race which makes YOU a monetary supporter of those who wish to genocide the White Race and that makes you complicit as well.

          • connorhus

            As is pretty obvious from all your replies YOU are part of the problem as well.

            No Mortgage here, paid cash for my acreage. Don’t even own a television and boycott any movie with a Multi-Cult slant. I have walked away from Jobs and professions that required me to support the Multi-Cult and the anti-White agenda.

            We have more police, teachers and government employees than we have ever had in history or need and certainly more than we can afford and yet you want to just go ahead and keep adding debt to take care of this excess.

            All branches from the problem tree need to be pruned.

          • “Let’s close the schools and let the kids roam around all day – hanging out at the mall terrorizing businesses, selling drugs or breaking into your home while you’re at work.”
            –Bon

            They do that anyway, so the only change closing the schools would make is saving the taxpayers a great, big pile of money.

        • curmudgeon

          Kind of hard to gin up any sympathy.

      • SoulInvictus

        I’ll probably be the lone dissenting voice here, but like cops, I think good (can’t stress good enough) teachers should be paid lavishly.
        The teachers (and cops) in some of these areas ought to get additional hazard pay.
        I’d want teacher testing, goals and metrics with zero diversity quotas in place in exchange, but it ought to be one of the best paid professions.
        Anyone that disagrees hasn’t tried to manage a chaotic room full of hellions while actually imparting knowledge.
        There’s no incentive for the brightest minds to become teachers in our society, and that is pathetic. So what do we expect…

        • connorhus

          Like cops how are you going to define them as good? Any cop that enforces the laws and helps the establishment with the race replacement we are seeing today is the same as the teacher pushing the common core in their classroom.

          While there are a few areas left in the States these generalities do not apply they are damned few. All public servants in 90% of the US are over paid because they should be getting zero White taxpayer money.

          • SoulInvictus

            Success isn’t hard to define.

            They show up to work. They perform well under observation. They test well showing their knowledge is current. They show a decent success rate of well preforming students.

            Similar for cops. Better pay and higher standards= higher quality/better trained law enforcement. It’s not their fault or job what idiots politicians make legal priorities.

            Teaching and police positions shouldn’t be the optional professions left over for people that couldn’t do much else. If you want good people in them, it’ll have to offer rewards.

            If by 90% of “public servants” you mean defense contractors and layers of state bureaucracy, you’re probably right.
            Teachers and police, from first hand knowledge and contact with them, are not over paid. Yeah, the ones that suck are, but that’s what you get with low pay and low standards other than folks who have a nigh religious calling to the profession.

            Enforcing border security, breaking down crack house doors, finding rapists, kidnappers and murderers,… I don’t see how these things “helps the establishment with the race replacement”.
            Neither does teaching math and science…
            And as with cops and laws, teachers don’t set curriculum.

          • connorhus

            They are not teaching math and science they are teaching common core now. They are not busting down all the crack house doors just enough that they can cover so it doesn’t look like they racially profiling.

            You think teaching is hard work? I have my secondary certificate and let me tell you something teaching 30 White students is not teaching 30 Hellions as you call em. Maybe two out of the group are disruptive and much easier dealt with.

            You tell me who you see out passing on the anti-White propaganda. Look at any of their conferences and public announcements.

            And you want to reward that?

          • SoulInvictus

            That’s not the world we live in.
            30 white student classrooms are almost nonexistent.
            Most of my classes were math, science, and mostly true history.
            Most of my teachers I knew from various churches and Sunday Schools in the area. Not exactly rabid commies.

            Yes, it is hard work. Yes, it is underpaid. And yes, the standards are too low for them.

            Passing out the anti-white propaganda… well, mostly yankees from what I see. Avoiding CA, the North, and metro places like Atlanta, then it’s not commie central like you seem to think.
            But when has that not been the case. They’re reaping the benefits of it, so F’em. 🙂
            Good argument for getting Federal funds out of the picture, but I can say that about almost everything.
            Local and State level governance is always better and the way the Constitution intended it all to work anyway.

          • connorhus

            The sickness of the Multi-Cult has infected pretty much every school system in the country. You can see articles and reports of young White Boys being suspended for wearing American flags or making a piece of bread look like a gun from smallville, Georgia, Missouri, Texas or Tennessee not just Kalifornia or Chicago.

            After the first year in a reasonable setting teaching is not hard. Once you have your plans all in place and everything in order. Teachers are needed, yes, but they are not a profession that requires pay any higher than the average private sector employee. The job is no tougher than any other job.

            The same goes with your average law enforcement position, especially those in mostly or all White Communities.

          • SoulInvictus

            “You can see articles and reports of young White Boys being suspended for wearing American flags…”

            I don’t disagree with the nuttiness of all that stuff. Or dispute that it’s going on.
            But I don’t see the bearing on getting a highly qualified and talented math or computer science teacher in the classroom.
            It’s two separate issues. Political correctness and liberal madness, and then the business of teaching.
            Most educators I’ve known would not make the policies that are inflicted on the schools any more than most cops I’ve known give a damn about harassing and jailing someone for a joint.
            Take it out on the law makers and school boards.

          • connorhus

            The only way the madness is going to stop is for good people to stop selling their souls and their race down the river for a paycheck. Until the sickness and rot is purged from the system no one should advocating for paying these people anything.

            I think you are not seeing just what happens. Look back at the public school employee riots in Wisconsin, Michigan, Washington etc. Those were your average teachers lending their voices to the PC liberal crowd.

            And you want to promote that?

          • SoulInvictus

            Again, by and large, yankees and Feds are the problem as always.
            Neither of which, do I support. 🙂

          • connorhus

            You seem to have no problem supporting the Kalifornia teacher though… I thought you said you taught history wasn’t Cali a Union State?

          • SoulInvictus

            If the State would foot the bill, and the locals set the curriculum, then yeah I support her. It’s their call and their money at that point. No business of mine.
            An attitude the US in general could benefit greatly from.

          • connorhus

            And have you actually looked at the overall government spending on education? As a country we spend more on education than any other sector usually although some years Pensions beat it out. Guess what? They hide that expenditure by the Federal government requiring local funds to be spent and matching other areas. No state is spending their own money on education they are all being manipulated by the Fed.

            Like your argument for paying teachers and LEOs more money you cannot move to that position until you fix the system from the ground up or you are doing nothing but supporting what is already in place no matter which way you turn.

          • SoulInvictus

            You’re right. Defund them all. Shutter the doors on all police stations and schools. They’re all complicit in eradicating the white race.
            No need to do anything or strive for better until the US reverts to the 50’s demographically and all the theory is worked out to perfection…

            Everyone wants a pony…

          • connorhus

            So now you are taking up the Liberal battle cry… It’s for the Children, They want dirty air and water, They don’t want to pay so they must all be Waaaaycist.

            Only Liberal Multi-Culters deal in those slogans.

          • SoulInvictus

            Yep, that’s me. Mr.Super Leftist. …on the race realist site.
            Just because I don’t live in fantasy-land pining for 50’s never coming back America/northwest homelands, or think that teachers are hellspawn, then maybe I am to the left of some on here apparently.

            Deprioritizing education, and pollution of air and water for that matter, only favor the wealthy that can escape the consequences. And only truly stupid and shortsighted people would favor either.
            To take it from the angle “conservatives” can wrap their head around, how much toxic waste would God have been ok with Adam dumping into Eden…
            I really can’t think of anything more insanely stupid than people dim enough to mock the seriousness of poisoning their own water.
            And things like that are why the GOP is known, even on sites like Vdare, as the “stupid party”.

          • connorhus

            Wow you sure do show your true colors. Someone has an issue with the bloated numbers and salaries of teachers (and cops) and you start screaming lefty talking points.

            Look at the numbers of teachers and cops we have per capita today. Look at the amounts of money… no not money more debt… the government spends to on these numbers. Every town over 50K people in the US has a SWAT team, Every department over 12 employees has some surplus military vehicle. The government screams we are an aging population yet very few schools are closed down.

            And your answer is pay them more money.

            Nice.

          • SoulInvictus

            “Look at the numbers of teachers and cops we have per capita today.”
            I don’t have to look at whatever national numbers you’re speculating on… I actually know teachers. I actually know cops. I know their families. I know how much money they earn.
            It’s crap.
            Yeah, my answer is to raise performance and qualification standards, and raise their pay.
            One shepherds children through learning, the other risks eating a bullet on a daily basis. So stupid me, I think they should get great pay.
            Last post, you seem really determined to have the last word for some reason. Have at it. Kind of tired of hearing the same talking points the stupid party drags out perpetually that only serve to drive the white working class into the minority loving Democratic cesspit.

          • connorhus

            Their pay is NOT crap when compared to the private sector and they get much better benefits and pensions besides.

            All I see is your flag waving for more Liberal payouts and union dues. In fact like your political leaders you would rather tax those White working Middle class employees to fund your little fantasy utopia. I am sure there is a suitable share set aside for the illegals and other minorities in your plans as well.

          • Dr. Möbias

            I’m sure if you had your way, you’d fire all white teaches and police officers because they are, to you, the main the problem in this increasingly anti-white world.

            Yeah, like that’ll work. Whites are already struggling and you want them to struggle more by taking away their pensions and salaries.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Like John Engelman, you use deflection and distraction to take focus off the real enemy of the white race by attacking teachers and LEOs, most of whom are working stiffs trying to get from one day to the next, while walking on egg shells every single day. Yeah, and jobs are so easy for us Whites to get as we are forced to stand behind unqualified blacks and browns who are hired over us due to anti-White AA policies.

            The picture is much larger than your narrow view of teachers and LEOs as the problem and by lasering in focus on them, you are distracting from the genocidal agenda that is being waged against.

            That is a typical, psy-ops tactic of our mortal enemies.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Thanks for your support, friend. He labeled me an anti-white too, yes ME, a Radical Leftist posting pro-white comments for 9 years on a pro-white site, LOL.

            But to him, anyone who supports teachers is an an anti-white subversive Nazi supporting an anti-White system, and anyone who IS a teacher should be liquidated.

            What kind of person makes it his life’s work to bash teachers?

            His energy would be better expended helping distressed whites instead of attacking us. We are losing our homelands, resources and are being legislated against left and right so let’s attack teachers… Right. He might be the one who threatened to find out my identity so he could play hero and turn me in to my employer, to get me fired from my job! He sure thinks I should lose my job.

            But then Bob Whitaker is right: there is nothing worse than an anti-White White and this guy fits the bill.

          • SoulInvictus

            No problem. As you can see, I’m usually in the same boat.
            I got the rest of what you wrote in my email before you had edited it, and I couldn’t agree more…

          • Dr. Möbias

            We spend more on sending our White boys to fight in pointless, overseas, never ending wars.

            I assume you are fighting against that as well, losing our young, brave White males in a proxy wars that have nothing to do with the White race.

            Brainwashing is one thing in the public schools; coming home in a body bag is far far worse. Ask any mother who has lost a son in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya or any other 3rd world s-hole.

          • connorhus

            What’s funny here is that even though I do not agree with all the Military spending at least it mostly benefits Whites, Keeps our interests in the rest of the world safe and most importantly is….

            The only spending the Federal government is suppose to do Constitutionally.

            I typically recommend no young White Man join the military today unless he has no other real option but joining the military is certainly better than going into education or law enforcement.

          • Sick of it

            #1 California was founded by Southerners and later transformed by Eastern trash. They almost joined the war on the side of the Confederacy.

            #2 The teacher in question is more on our side than most people who contribute to Amren (let alone the vast majority of white people).

          • connorhus

            I am sure their were some sympathetic guards at some of the Gulags in Siberia as well. Just doing my job isn’t a good excuse in my opinion.

          • Sick of it

            I have a hard time imagining her peddling the liberal line, considering what she posts here.

          • connorhus

            Perhaps. Yet the very curriculum that is being taught in public schools today is anti-White. Despite whatever private views someone holds the truth is we cannot support all these public employees and as a whole they work against Whites across the board. Whether she(he) thinks their pay is acceptable is not really the issue the issue is the lions share of educational spending does not go to the students…Black, Brown, White whatever it goes to paying their and their unions salaries and pensions and it way more than we can afford even if we were in an all White country.

          • Sick of it

            Well, the money is wasted on everything from overpriced cleaning supplies to unnecessary janitorial staff to administrator salaries to kickbacks to vendors galore to overpriced and unnecessary systems. Our educational system is filled with waste. What we need more than IPADs, however, are switches, canes, and/or paddles to use on the kids.

          • connorhus

            The only way to insure that is to cut spending. Which leads us right back to the beginning and more screaming about how the teachers deserve better pay yadda yadda. Same result with cutting the fat and over reach with Law enforcement.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            I think this guy wants to burn me at the stake, he’d even toss the match to light the fire.

            I’m sure if all the teachers were fired tomorrow and the schools closed, we’d have our White utopia.

          • We just need to return to where things were in about 1935.

          • Sick of it

            Too many Communists running things back then.

          • Sick of it

            The following social upheaval COULD lead to that utopia, but it would not be guaranteed. It’s not a method I would choose.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Nor would I.

            Thanks for your support. Others have told me off-line that this guy is a notorious troll trying to stir up trouble and teachers are his cause du jour. I’ve rarely seen anyone, anywhere who’s expended so much energy and time “hating on” teachers.

            He may be the one that threatened me a few months back on this forum, to find me, “out” me and notify my employer.

            I don’t know why this guy has such a focused, visceral, personal hatred of teachers. I’ve come across many teacher bashers over the years. They usually hate teachers — all teachers — for at least one or more of the following reason:

            They have an ex who’s a teacher. Their kid was flunked out, was suspended or expelled which was fault of all teachers (there’s one of these on another site that I and others battle constantly). They are former teachers who were fired (yes it IS possible). They were abused by a teacher so all teachers are therefore abusers and are responsible. There are others

          • Sick of it

            Some folks might be shocked that we actually have quite a few conservative teachers in the South, including relatives of mine. We’ve had teachers in our family since before the Civil War I believe…and they weren’t preaching Marxism.

          • Dr. Möbias

            No more than I want to promote the anti-White print, TV and movie media. I you go to the movies, watch TV or read major newspapers, any of them in the U.S., you are supporting those who wish to genocide the White race.

            Don’t be hypocritical. Give up everything the oppositions controls i.e., all media and banking, and live by the standards you expect the rest of us to live by. Either that or STFU.

          • Sick of it

            The irony of selling one’s soul for paper money is that it is totally worthless. For promises of future pay, such as a pension, it is meaningless as these people will bankrupt the system so at a future time the pension will not be paid.

          • Dr. Möbias

            No more than I want to reward the media for their constant anti-white 24/7 brainwashing. I assume you’re going after them as well?

          • curmudgeon

            In both cases you would have to decertify the teachers labor unions, one of the root causes of the decline in education. The DOE was able to start the indoctrination of students with the willing participation of the unions. Single parent families and the absence of discipline in the schools are other root causes, but throwing more of other people’s money at them (the liberal democRAT answer to any problem) is not the answer.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Let’s get them all fired from their jobs so they can go on endless unemployment and welfare. Because jobs are so easy to find in the current economy, right?

            There. Problem solved.

          • Texan1st

            So no teachers and no cops that enforce the law because they are race-replacing white people? Gotcha! That will surely make life in America a utopia for all the non-teacher and non-cop white people. /smh. Here’s a hint, Einstein. Cops are the ONLY ones in this society that will get up in a violent buck’s face and break him down. Most internet heroes would schit themselves if they had to get within 50 feet of one, much less move in and put hands, and eventually handcuffs on one. So lay off the teacher bashing and cop bashing. Just because you’ve had a bad experience or two with cops doesn’t mean they are out to destroy white people. Who do you think has been locking up all those black males you hear about in jail? Non-cops? Stop being such a drama queen.

          • SoulInvictus

            Sanity and rational thought, hey now, no call for that kind of thing.
            Thanks for restoring my faith a little in the readership here.
            Reading this guys posts and seeing it actually upvoted is discouraging.
            Not that I disagree about the school system and law having problems, but pinning the blame on teachers and cops is like blaming the cashier at Wal-Mart for them importing all the goods from China and wrecking American manufacturing….

          • Sick of it

            We’d be better off without police forces, as they enforce the criminal will of those in power, not the law. Otherwise, why isn’t violent crime being stopped (with a bullet)? Citizen militias would work better, as they did in the past.

          • connorhus

            I believe there are a bunch of militia guys still out in Nevada that would disagree with you. The cops are the one’s enforcing the laws to try and stop any White standing up for themselves.

        • Anon

          Teaching is a low skill occupation. Quite frankly, K-12, assuming a normal student population including half going to college, the entire content of the curriculum is standardized, pre-packaged and require little more than a high school education (cough) to understand and guide normal students through.
          No….we do not need talented people to teach. Any more than I need someone with a masters to handle being a secretary.
          College teaching is where we need more talent in. Amazing the number of undergraduate teachers that aren’t actually at a college level of understanding, even in their own fields.
          As for teaching non-whites. They are out and out retards. No method, no matter how innovative, will change the outcome of trying to teach them. They are pretend students who need a pretend teacher….someone it doesn’t matter if they rape or murder (which they will).
          Security….not learning, is the primary issue in that population. Typical, functioning school in these districts (in the Bronx, NYC for example….I recommend people nearby go see for themselves). There are about 50 cops stationed around the school in the morning and in the after noon. They work in groups of five. Curiously, I’ve never seen a canine unit but they do have some impressive firepower. Everyone enters the school from one entrance ONLY. Every student is gone over with metal detectors, frisked and their bags carefully searched. When it’s time, the entire place is locked down tight with a dozen officers around the perimeter and a small army inside the school. These people mean business and students who get out of line don’t get detention…they get “stick time”.
          No one fools around. Everyone sits down and pays attention (or else).
          Very few actually pass. You understand. An out and out police state FORCING them to try and learn. Not even that works.

          • SoulInvictus

            …I disagree. I’d go into more depth, but this other guy tired me out with his boring dogma.
            In short I’d say, “Teaching is a low skill occupation” – low standards, most of high school should be advanced college and vocational prep, regardless of whether they need to be astrophysicist the smarter and more inspirational the teacher the better. Actually, scratch that, it would be awesome to have the occasional astrophysicist in K-12 classrooms.
            As for teaching brown/black, not much argument there. But what are you going to do? In this political and economic climate, you try to see if you can stick some junk to the wall I guess.
            I think most of them could handle trade jobs that actually pay well, and there is a desperate need in those fields. There’d be no argument from me against shifting towards making that a priority in schools and students that don’t excel in academics.

          • connorhus

            And don’t forget Anti-White Invictus wants you to pay all those glorified security guards more money and higher pensions as well…

            Talk about tired old dogma…. It’s for the children ya know!!!!

          • SoulInvictus

            Yes dolt, it’s for the children. MY children. And to create the doctors and nurses that will be taking care of you in your old age. And the scientists that will be inventing new things after we’re dead and gone.
            You carp a lot and offer no creative solutions. That’s the sign of a limited mind. So… they should do what? No security and no effort at any sort of eduaction in problem areas. Just send them home, execute the lot of them, what?
            In the real world, you don’t get a pony (or mass deportations), so you do something.
            And yeah, in an ideal world, the teachers would get enormous pay.
            I’d love to see them getting NBA player pay and dumb guys running back and forth for a living making teacher salaries.

            The fact that you do nothing but gripe and cite oft repeated talk radio talking points is why I called your posts dogma. It’s predictable and it’s boring. Like the massive leap to me being a leftist because I admire, respect, and think teachers play a critical role in modern life that deserves to be rewarded well.
            I just think nuns must have beaten you as a child or something as you seem to have an infantile rage against teachers.

          • connorhus

            I believe you were over indoctrinated by the leftist teachers. Perhaps there was some early molestation going on you never got over?

            For anyone to support the very profession that public screams for the genocide of Whites is the epitome of White guilt.

      • Michael Mason

        If I were you I’d get the hell out of California and go somewhere thats white and is not under the threat of being diversified in the near future; somewhere like Montana.

      • I have worse news for you; your pension fund is very likely heavily invested in municipal bonds issued by – you probably guessed it – dysfunctional California cities.

        • SoulInvictus

          In Alabama, a lot of the school retirement funds were invested in the Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail (look it up if you enjoy golf). It’s probably doing pretty well for them. Good investment and a draw for tourism capitalizing on plentiful land and pretty rural locales.

          • That was actually smart. Public pension plan managers “investing” in publicly-issued “securities” is a Ponzi scheme.

          • SoulInvictus

            I thought so too. I think AL has been slowly building towards being a nice, affordable retirement alternative to FL. Pretty smart with an aging populace that holds all the money. There are more golf courses here (nice ones even) than most people would ever play.
            Seems like every town or city of more than 20,000 people has at least one.

      • Tony Nobaloney

        You are too late to the party.

        The Gravy Train has left the station.

      • Sick of it

        My best suggestion would be to see if you could somehow transfer your pension to another state’s teacher retirement system and move there. A place more fiscally sound than California.

      • obot

        You can thank your union for that. If you had a 401k at least the money would be yours instead of the union’s.

  • It could have been $129,349 a year, and things wouldn’t be any better.

    By comparison, University of Missouri tuition last year was about $23,000 in state.

    Government has manifestly failed the families who must send their children to these schools, and the children who must attend them.

    Sorry, it’s not a government that has failed, it has NAM students that have failed. We can’t say anymore that students fail school, we say that school fails certain kinds of students.

    • Alucard_the_last

      Don’t you know that blacks are divine and can do no wrong? Every evil and stupid act is somehow a humans fault not theirs.

      • Dale McNamee

        Read ” humans’ fault,not theirs” as “Blame the Whites”…

    • Frank_DeScushin

      “It could have been $129,349 a year, and things wouldn’t be any better.”

      I’ve often cited DC spending the most per pupil to debunk the Liberal fallacy that minority schools only fail because they are underfunded. Despite noting that DC routinely spends the most per pupil and the Kansas City School Experiment was a miserable failure despite it’s several billion dollar price tag, Liberals stick to their guns that “if only we spent more on education”. No amount of facts will change the mind of the true Liberal.

      • connorhus

        Because that money is going into Liberal pockets not education. It’s welfare scam for social engineering not education. The same large bellied hags you see at any given “white Privilege” conference. It isn’t about education it’s about money for the teachers, administrators and union members.

        • Frank_DeScushin

          The money being skimmed by the unions, administrators, and teachers has little to do with DC, Kansas City, and other urban areas having such unsafe and underperforming schools. The schools are horrible because the students are horrible. The students are horrible because of their genes and culture, not because of how much or how little was spent on them. Even if every cent went to the students with no skimming from unions, administrators, etc. the results would be almost the exact same.

          • connorhus

            No argument with your results theory Frank. No argument at all. But it isn’t those unteachable students that are costing us the money it’s the anti-White education industry using those students like a weapon to get more money for themselves int he name of “equality” now isn’t it?

  • dd121

    “Education” as is commonly understood in the country, is merely a get-rich scam by and for the left.

    • I think it’s worse than that, and not just the left anymore.

      The New Yorker magazine long form version of another education-related thread in AR today, about Mark Zuckerberg’s gift, clearly laid out the fact that education today has become a non-stop back-scratching log-rollling hustle involving a revolving door between politicians, educrats, and PR/consulting firms. NAM educational failure, or the racial achievement gap, is the straw that stirs the drink.

  • D.B. Cooper

    No One Cares. No one. I remember this headline 20 years ago, 10 years, ago, 5 years ago, last year, last month, and last week.
    You are all willing to keep voting for a political party that constantly ignores you, so you will keep getting your paycheck nickel and dimed down to the bare minimum.
    An ethnic group that lacks electricity cries racism, and you wet your pants, as if they are an unbeatable foe. The Democratic Party continues to impose racist policies not in your favor, and you still support the politicians who are supposed to protect you, but wring their hands and do nothing…again.
    So, what’s next week’s headline?
    Flash mob in ____?
    Cheating scandal uncovered in______?
    Kim Kardashian?
    Illegal aliens granted licenses in _____?
    All of the above?

    • Ed

      Don’t forget Fed Judge over turns state ban on gay marriage in _______?

    • Dale McNamee

      How about Donald Sterling ?
      #Return Our Girls ?
      Washington Redskins Kerfluffle ?
      Solange,Beyonce & Jay-Z ?

      I could go on… Sadly.

  • JSS

    Almost 30,000 per student a school year and the libtard explanation for failure is still that the inner city “skooz” are under funded. Just think of the things White people could do if they werent flushing billions down the toilet for diversity. We need a homeland already.

  • JohnEngelman

    Dollars do not create scholars.

    • Fathercoughlin

      Are you part black now,Johnny?

    • Dale McNamee

      That’s very catchy ! Also, how true !

  • JohnEngelman

    We can’t teach what is not there.

    • Dale McNamee

      Great point !

  • So CAL Snowman

    Well the left LOVES to scream that demographics are destiny and we are
    certainly witnessing the rotten fruit of demographic change and racial
    displacement of the historical founding population. This is exactly WHY
    there are no first world Sub-Saharan African countries. Blacks can’t read, they can’t do math yet they somehow fancy themselves as our equals and demand equal access to all the fruits of White technology and advancement. These pitiful creatures cannot read or do math yet Sharpton and Jackson demand that American’s tech companies hire these illiterate buffoons. No wonder the Federal Reserve has to keep printing so much money as we just keep flushing it down a black hole.

    • bubo

      Education is THE number one jobs program in the country for blacks, talk about industrial strength irony.

      I guarantee that there are more make work admin positions with fancy titles for blacks than there are teachers in the DC school system.

    • Alucard_the_last

      They can’t do ‘MAF’. The ‘th’ sound is hard for the ape-like jaw.

    • Whitetrashgang

      In real terms I wonder how many species in Africa have a higher IQ that a sub Saharan Black, it could be in the hundreds .Poor animals how unfair.

  • Romulus

    Drawing a conclusion from the recent reviews of Mr. Wade’s book, spending exorbitant amounts of our money on negroes education is akin to throwing it into a black -hole.

    As evidenced by the many cheating scandals throughout the nation. The lowering of the SAT standards and the commie core curriculum.

  • Conrad

    As a comparison –

    Special Education Costs
    Special education costs are rising at an alarming rate. Public schools spend an average of two to three times on each student eligible for special education as they do for students without disabilities (Center for Special Education Finance). In some states, that translates into as much as $30,000 a year per student, taking multiple types of disabilities into account.

    • jane johnson

      And many schools are dropping accelerated and gifted programs because they are 1) too expensive
      2) too exclusionary (we know what that means).
      Much better to spend trillions on the segment of the population that will NEVER be productive.

      • WR_the_realist

        America sows its seed on barren ground and then wonders why nothing but a few weeds ever results.

        • Dale McNamee

          I love your “barren ground” comment !

          I thought that with all of the BS spread around, the “barren ground” would be quite fertile… /sarc

          But, that would help the “weeds”…

      • Ed

        I may be wrong but one number I saw claimed about $20 million is spent by Feds on talented & gifted programs.

        Of course as you’ve pointed out these programs have been attacked for their lack of diversity and promotion of segregation.

      • Dr. Möbias

        It is a way to keep Whites down. Deny their smart children an education, force integrate White schools and neighborhoods, focus on the lowest, dumbest, non-Whites, and then force Whites to pay for it all.

    • Fathercoughlin

      The black moms know that if lil Quantavious be special needs she is going to get paid. “So Quantavious,when we gets to school,start drooling…”

  • John R

    Now matter how much you spend, you “can’t make a silk purse….”

  • Alucard_the_last

    Utah spends the least and yet has the highest scores. If the parents could care less about education, their litters are going to have the same attitude henceforth, Washington DC

  • FeuerSalamander

    MONEY DOESN’T CHANGE DNA!!! NEITHER DO LIBERAL’S WISHFUL THINKING AND “GOOD INTENTIONS”! Negroes ARE NOT LIKE US!!!!!

  • WR_the_realist

    My town spends just over $6,000 per student per year. So Washington, D.C. spends almost 5 times as much and gets far worse results.

    Yes, race matters. In particular, the black race is very, very expensive.

  • Lewis33

    Just think, for every worthless student in D.C. a middle class taxpayer just had their yearly income (and a lifetime of taxes) flushed down the toilet. Makes you proud to be an American, don’t it?

    • benvad

      Think I’ll hit the pipe and get lost in a make believe world.

      On another note, do you think this is the major reason for Europeans hiding their troubled lives in Cosplay?

    • Ed

      Most of the Whites living in DC support this insanity so that’s on them.

  • Einsatzgrenadier

    NAM educational failure is all about IQ. The intractable nature of the NAM-white gap in IQ is all about the largely genetic basis of intelligence.

    • FeuerSalamander

      What is “NAM”? Does the “M” stand for monkey?

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        NAM = non-east Asian minorities. They’re evolutionary throwbacks, so “M” could stand for monkey.

  • none of your business

    Remember those kids not on lifelong welfare are the spawn of $50,000 to $150,000 per year affirmative action civil servants. It is the same thing in Prince George County MD whose school scores have gone steadily downward since the black affirmative action civil servants moved in several decades ago.

  • none of your business

    Soulinvictus
    The idea of paying “good” teachers more or a performance based salary scale is impossible because the test results depend on the in born IQ of the students. The “worst” teacher in a school where there are no blacks or hispanics and the kids have IQs of 100 to 120 will produce high test scores. The best teachers in a mostly black or hispanic school with kids with IQs from 70 to 95 will produce low test scores.
    It’s not the teachers, it is the material with which they have to work.
    Think of other occupations. Suppose the same carpenter built 2 decks in the same neighborhood. One deck is made of the cheapest newly cut untreated pine with numerous knots. The other deck is made of the finest old growth redwood seasoned and aged and carefully treated with preservatives to ward off termites, dry rot and mold.

    • MBlanc46

      What you say is perhaps true in general, but many of the teachers in black schools are little brighter and not much more educated than the students.

    • DNA Explains It All

      You mean to say that sending lots and lots of pigeons to eagle school does not result in large numbers of eagles “darkening” the skies? Blasphemy!

    • On the other hand, a first-rate chef can produce very good meals with ordinary starting materials, but a lazy cook with no skill will often ruin even the best ingredients. Of course, if the food is spoiled and moldy to begin with, neither will produce good results.

  • Michael Mason

    Unbelievable. We’re spending more money to educate blacks than the average black family even produces in Washington D.C. There’s no better way to throw away money than this.

  • Michael Mason

    People, I have a solution. Create a new subject called Bantu-nomics. Children will learn how to build shelters, what African animal species to hunt, and how to build simple tools with sticks and stones. Following their graduation, they’ll get a one way ticket back to the Congo.

    • FeuerSalamander

      the congo will demand we ship a lot of larger freezers over there, to store the meat we will be sending.

  • LIBERTYSINCURSION

    And here I thought it was the lack of funding not intelligence that kept blacks from achieving in academics and closing those dreaded racial gaps? Derp! < To say the least! )

    • FeuerSalamander

      but he can get hired as an actor to play the part of some super smart negro who saves the white people that are always portrayed as ignorant

  • ViktorNN

    These aren’t abstract numbers disappearing into the ether – this is the fruit of the labors of the white working class and middle class being transfered to non-whites.

    This is food taken out of the mouths of white children. Who knows how much white poverty could be eliminated?

  • Pro_Whitey

    So, on average across the country, about $20-30K spent per year on black kids for little apparent result. And that’s just the educational costs. We’re not counting medical expenses and other costs of living. Any plan to resettle them in Africa that costs us less than $300,000 per person is a bargain. Add in crime and prison costs and I think we could go up to $500,000 per person easily and still be a bargain (but, oy, don’t forget to start off at $50,000 so you have room to go up). It would be costly for about 20-30 years, but then costs would collapse..

  • none of your business

    It is true most of the money went to salaries and conferences for affirmative action black morons. But most of the money does not go to teacher pensions or even teacher salaries.
    Teachers like everybody else do have to earn the average income needed to lead an average life in the area in which they teach.
    The money goes for the plethora of analysts, consultants, coordinators, out reach directors and of course the security guards and school counselors charged with keeping a minimum of order in the schools. National Review once had an article about the number of administrators in the New York city public school system vs the number of administrators in the entire European Union state school systems. At the time the EU was only western Europe, and the population was something like 380 million. NYC population was 7 million when the article was written. NYC had more administrators than there were school administrators in the entire EU. School administration is nothing more than a well paid welfare system for affirmative action black women most of whom read at 3rd grade level and can’t add and subtract double digit numbers.

  • none of your business

    The problem with the shop classes is that there are tools,wood, car parts, metal and other things around with which the thugs can kill each other. I think a shop class would be much more dangerous than a regular classroom if filled with black thugs. The shop classes were dropped in many schools because they taught useful things instead of liberal propaganda.

    • Ed

      Voc. Ed is not easy, I don’t think it can be the saving grace many are hoping for.

  • MBlanc46

    “Government has manifestly failed the families who must send their
    children to these schools, and the children who must attend them.”

    I’m no fan of government, but let’s be fair. It’s the children who’ve failed these schools. Literally. Even if they cared about learning, which many of them don’t, their average IQ of 85 doesn’t equip them to learn reading and ciphering. If the article had mentioned that the population of DC is overwhelmingly black, the situation would have been made a lot clearer.

    • Ed

      DC is actually becoming less Black, Blacks should make up slightly less than 50% of the city population by now. Liberals are very good at ethnic cleansing.

      Now the public schools are still mostly Black though so your point has merit.

      • MBlanc46

        Thanks. I knew that DC was gentrifying, but I didn’t realize that the black population percentage had dropped that far. Of course, the gentrifiers wouldn’t be sending their children to the public schools.

      • FeuerSalamander

        they aren’t very good at having children though

  • none of your business

    Teaching is a lot easier than it was 25 years ago because of the internet sites with lesson plans and projects. A horrible thing about teaching is that the teachers are not supposed to use the textbooks but create “innovative, creative” c**p. It used to take a lot of work to create innovative c**p. Now days just google and dozens of “innovative creative” c**p needs only to be printed.
    But of course the teacher needs to be paid enough to have a good internet connection and a good printer plus all the ink that can churn out the c**p. Even teachers who live a 20 minute bus or subway ride from their school need a car to ferry all the c**p back and forth. They also need a home with enough space to store all the c**p, especially elementary teachers who carry most of the burden of making the c**p. I knew a young woman just out of college who taught elementary school. She could only afford to live in a 2 bedroom apartment with 2 roommates. Most 2 bedroom apartments are actually 3 rooms, the third being a kitchen living room main traffic way. Her roommates constantly complained about all the elementary school c**p and making it that filled the living room.
    Teachers need to be paid enough so they can live an average life in the area in which they work. In addition to that, they need to be paid enough to buy, transport, make and store all the c**p districts insist the teachers use instead of the textbooks. The c**p is tax deductible, but it costs a lot to buy, make and store.

    • Sick of it

      It can be more fun to create a lesson from scratch.

  • Ed

    It’s a shame literacy tests to vote were abandoned, it would be a good tool to use as a prerequisite to vote.

  • Ed

    Liberals still hold on to the school funding discrepancy meme which has been refuted repeatedly. They don’t care their goal isn’t to produce results but secure patronage jobs for teachers, administrators, academics & consultants that come up with ways to “close the gap”.

    It’s all a giant scam.

  • DNA Explains It All

    I am thinking instinct would supplant any need of texts.

  • John R

    The amount of money spent on educating these black kids doesn’t take into consideration the fact that White teachers are expected to OUT OF THEIR OWN SALERIES, buy school supplies for their “students.”

    • Dale McNamee

      But, whose problem is that ? The taxpayers’ ?

      That money pays for an over-abundance of administrators and other “parasites” who infest the “educational” systems of every state,county, and city…

      The fact that the teacher is “paying out of his own pocket” to have class supplies shows that incompetence, if not corruption, of the people running the supply warehouses and supply distribution…

      Meanwhile, some school systems are buying iPads,PC Tablets, and other “educational gimmicks”, instead… Also, building the latest “technologically loaded monument ” and playing the “educational system’s” version of ” Mine’s Bigger Than Yours”…

      And let’s not forget the raises that teachers have gotten over the decades…

      Also, why aren’t the parents buying the supplies for their children ? Why is it the responsibility of the teacher ?

  • disqus_irCdmAu8It

    You can but a pearl necklace on a pig, butm the pig is still ugly. Blacks can’t be educated.

  • none of your business

    A judge has sentenced a former Paterson school district employee to five years in prison without parole after she was convicted of misconduct and theft. Prosecutors say Anna Taliaferro hired a company in which she had an undisclosed financial interest to organize parent conferences and then overbilled the district by nearly $200,000.
    This is where a lot of the money goes. If one counts all the hours spent at meetings, development classes, conferences and the rest of the c**p, and especially the years and years of saturdays spent listening to anti White propaganda known as development or awareness a $50,000 per year salary, when broken down into hours is probably minimum wage. Summers off? What a joke, to keep their credential teachers have to spend time in summer school learning the same old c**p they learned in their education courses back in college. And like every teacher training class in America, it is just anti White propaganda. All hail our savior Lenin!!!

  • jane johnson

    Did you not read the article that is the basis of this thread? I never suggested that disabled children should be warehoused, or that public money should not be spent on educating them. My comment refers to the fact that programs for gifted students are being defunded, while more and more public money is being spent on failing programs in failing schools. If we don’t invest at least equally on the best and brightest of our children now, who do you think will pay for all the special needs kids in the future? It won’t be De’Various or La’Queefa, and I resent the trillions being spent on their ilk every bit as much as you do. All the best to you and your family.

  • Apartheid_DC

    A lot of waste and mismanagement in an apartheid government. What can you expect?

  • MBlanc46

    I was thinking particularly of Chicago schools on the South and West Sides. Black teachers who come out of the CPS and get their degrees at the teacher training college in Englewood.

  • MBlanc46

    That’s the true explanation of the failure of black schools. The students are black.

  • Apartheid_DC

    Apartheid DC needs to be abolished, period.