CA Senate Supports Asking Voters to Repeal Ban on Bilingual Education

Patrick McGreevy, Los Angeles Times, May 27, 2014

The state Senate voted Tuesday to ask California voters to repeal a ban on bilingual education in the state, saying children in other countries are successfully learning multiple languages.

The senate voted to put a measure on the ballot in November 2016 that would repeal major parts of Proposition 227, the 1998 ballot measure approved by voters that requires schools to teach in English.

“Children who participate in multilingual programs not only outperform their peers, they also have higher earning potential when they enter the workforce,” said Sen. Ricardo Lara (D-Bell Gardens), who authored SB 1174. The bill was approved 27 to 8 and next goes to the Assembly for consideration.

He called the status quo “linguistic tyranny, where we [politicians] decide what language our kids are going to learn.”

{snip}

Topics: ,

Share This

We welcome comments that add information or perspective, and we encourage polite debate. If you log in with a social media account, your comment should appear immediately. If you prefer to remain anonymous, you may comment as a guest, using a name and an e-mail address of convenience. Your comment will be moderated.
  • Mason Gull

    It seems like Californians are always getting their ballot measures overruled. There’s this, Prop 8, and I think there was something else.

    • JDInSanD

      Prop 187, the Save our State initiative to bar illegals from welfare, healthcare and public education was found unconstitutional because it infringed on the federal government’s turf. But it is somehow constitutional for California taxpayers to pay for illegals’ benefits and the federal gov refuses to pick up the extra cost to California.

      Governor Pete Wilson supported the prop. We used to have a statue of him here in San Diego but the local Mexicans protested and I think it was quietly removed.

      • APaige

        If I can remember the person behind Prop 227 was himself a Hispanic. He saw that the only group way behind in English were the students being taught in Spanish. (It makes sense) Students whose first language was not English or Spanish were quickly learning English. Liberals and or Progressive can either complain about teaching in Spanish, OR leaning English. If Spanish speakers fall behind it is their fault. It takes awhile but Liberalism usually fails those they think they are helping.

        • MikeofAges

          Ron Unz. In 1998, the English for the Children initiative carried every county except San Francisco and Alameda (Oakland-Berkeley). Statewide it received 60 percent of the vote, though the percentage was lower in most of the major metropolitan counties. Still, the initiative got 56 percent even in Los Angeles County. Same in Santa Clara (San Jose). It failed only in the two counties where the influence of the hard leftists was the strongest.

      • propagandaoftruth

        Man I hate it for you guys out there, except for the weather. Looks like Cali is another country now. Not a better one.

        • me

          Ricardo Lara–ever hear of the fall of Babylon?
          This is how you conquer a country without spilling a drop of your own blood to do it–take over the government from a people too weak to fight. So long, California. Hello, third-world craphole of Mexifornia. Texas is next, unless the people grow a pair.

          • propagandaoftruth

            Texicans?

          • Gerald Michael

            Yes, Texas is next. The full weight of the Democrat Party and the media are working hard, hard, hard to turn it blue, and quick. Texas is California circa 1993.

          • SentryattheGate

            CA taxpayers did try to fight the illegal invasion, but, as with Prop.187, they won by 2/3rds of the vote to deny benefits to illegals, but one federal judge struck it down. CA has gotten 80% of it’s Hispanics since 1980; most of them illegal! The citizens went to their politicians, who refused to help fight the invasion, so they spent their own time and money to get hundreds of thousands of signers on the petition, then had to spend the $$ to get those signers verified, before it could be voted on! Then their landslide win got struck down! People get worn down like that! No wonder so many Californians are voting with their feet; moving out!

        • SentryattheGate

          No wonder Northern California wants to secede, and create it’s own new state — Jefferson.

    • ElComadreja

      Same thing in Massachusetts. If it were up to the voters we’d have a death penalty and no homosexual “marriage”.

  • TruthBeTold

    “Children who participate in multilingual programs not only outperform
    their peers, they also have higher earning potential when they enter the
    workforce,”

    Maybe this works in Sweden but it doesn’t seem to apply to Mexicans in America.

    • cloudswrest

      I imagine this really refers to natives learning a foreign language, i.e. natives becoming bilingual. I don’t think that’s what the CA Senate has in mind. The foreigners already know a foreign language. They need to learn the native language.

      • SentryattheGate

        I witnessed many 3rd/4th grade students here in north Florida, who moved here from another part of the US, who could only speak Spanish. Their parents had insisted that they were schooled in Spanish ONLY. Now they were insisting their kids be taught English; costing the taxpayers $10/hour (10+ years ago) to teach these students one-on-one! Meanwhile, the gifted kids were ignored as usual.

  • Oil Can Harry

    Bringing back bilingual programs will actually HURT hispanics in the long run.

    For that reason I’ve seen a number of pro-white online commentors cheering on the clueless hispanic militants and their buffoonish cause.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      It’s all part of the globalist plan to demographically overwhelm the white majority with nonwhite “immigration” and marginalize western culture to the fringes of society.

      The multiculturalists couldn’t care less about what happens to mestizos in the long run, so long as they can be used to successfully undermine and eventually destroy western civilization in the short run.

      • SentryattheGate

        Yes, it’s divide and conquer! Bring in the Hispanics who are used to the dictator’s boot, many even admiring the dictator as “muy Macho”!

  • “Linguistic tyranny”

    AKA a country acting like a country.

    • Another one of those catch phrases cultural Marxists invent to drive the politics. I reject these coined terms they come up with as nonsense. Totally devoid of intellectual content or meaning. Best strategy: Mock these phrases. Sample: “Hahaha, what kind of Orwellian double speak is that you’re talking, Professor Goldfinkle?”

    • Oil Can Harry

      And of course the fact that Spanish is Mexico’s official language has never been called “linguistic tyranny” by these hispanic hypocrites.

  • DaveMed

    My children will be bilingual, but I’m not yet sure whether they’ll be getting lessons in German or a Scandinavian language.

    I’ve got a lot of German ancestry, but I find the Scandinavian languages more beautiful.

    • propagandaoftruth

      English is a Germanic language. Heavy Latin overlay of vocabulary but grammatically northern Germanic. I can almost understand Norwegian when I hear it spoken, no training.

      • IstvanIN

        I never really “got” English grammar until I took German in High School.

        • propagandaoftruth

          Spanish for me. Beautiful simplicity and balance and almost phonetic. Spanish and Japanese speakers are far less likely to be dyslexic than English speakers.

          English spelling rules are a mess and cried out for the invention of the spellcheck for anyone like me to have any hope, lol…

      • expitch

        The Germanic tribes that conquered England employed a complicated syntax much like that of contemporary German. Gradually the simpler syntax of Celtic inhabitants replaced the Germanic one, with some blending. It does no harm to call English a Germanic language as long as one acknowledges the modifying impact of Celtic, a modification that previewed the trend toward compression and efficiency that is a hallmark of history of the English language. Latinate diction entered English after the Norman Conquest and, on a larger scale, in the 16th and 17th Centuries, when bigger abstract words were mistakenly taken as a sign of learning and intelligence. These borrowings were derisively called “inkwell terms.”
        Ben Jonson, himself a lover of all things Classical, satirized a swollen vocabulary used for venal ends.
        Let us give the Celts their due.

        • propagandaoftruth

          That Celtic simplification of grammar makes sense, as it sure wasn’t Latin or French. Thanks. That answers a question I’ve long had regarding (lack of) complex verb form conjugations in English.

    • ElComadreja

      Scandinavian languages are Germanic with the exception of Finnish.

  • r j p

    … saying children in other countries are successfully learning multiple languages.
    .
    Quite a difference from conducting school in an other than native language of the country.
    .
    “Children who participate in multilingual programs not only outperform their peers, they also have higher earning potential when they enter the workforce,” said Sen. Ricardo Lara (D-Bell Gardens), ….
    .
    Yep, the squat monsters are so successful, geniuses, ready to translate for the Kryptonians as the illegally immigrate to AmeriKa.

  • Caucasoid88

    Jason Richwine: “Group differences in ability, combined with a natural tribal disposition, is going to create, usually, parallel cultures within a multiracial society rather than an assimilated culture.”

  • I recall reading that the schools in LA teach 200 languages. 200 different ethnic groups, divided by language would never be able to stand up to the exploitation of labor by the USA’s power elites. The New World Order (a phrase Biden used the other day at the Air Force Academy graduation) requires the extermination of the white race because we stand in the way of their creation of a zombie slave labor force that does exactly what they’re told. The power elites want a country where we’re unable to communicate in a common language because that maximizes their control over us slaves.

    • Jesse James

      NWO – divide and rule. I expect that this is partially what is fueling many of the European secession movements: Scotland, Catalonia, Venice, Wallonia, Flanders, Euskadi (Basque) etc. Many Southerner’s look at these movements hopefully seeing them as setting precedents that could result with similar breaking down of the continental American state. I am wary because I expect the idea is to weaken the larger historic nations by carving off pieces into small states that will be easy to intimidate and manipulate.

      • IstvanIN

        I agree wholeheartedly. Whatever internal differences the British, Belgians and Spaniards may have they need remain united under one monarch and rid themselves of both the non-Europeans in their midst and the politicians who imported them.

    • ElComadreja

      What they don’t realize is that the majority of their mestizo/mulatto slave labor force will be unwilling (and in many cases too stupid) to work.

  • MekongDelta69

    SB 1174 = English as a second language

    • model1911

      Press 2.

    • SentryattheGate

      Linguists say that Spanish is a dying language; it varies so much between “Spanish”-speaking countries that becomes useless for important issues. I understand that English, where precision is important, is the language of commerce and medicine in those countries

      • ElComadreja

        If that’s true it can’t die fast enough. When I hear Spanish spoken in America I feel a combination of rage and deep sadness at what’s been done to us.

  • dd121

    This fractured society is what the left is aiming for. It’s not a side-effect; it’s their objective.

  • The only “linguistic tyranny” in this story is the expectation that a nation founded by English-speakers for English-speakers accommodate the demands of invading Spanish-speakers.

  • MBlanc46

    How about we, the people deciding what language our children are taught in?

    • Jesse James

      We can and must start to separate ourselves spiritually from the anti-white globalists governments that are working to marginalize and destroy us. Home schooling is currently the best alternative for those who can swing it.

      • MBlanc46

        I am well along that path of spiritual separation.

  • MikeofAges

    The idea of bilingual education began with good intentions — the idea that underclass children who started school knowing only Spanish (and often little of that) ought to be taught in Spanish so that they would learn basic concepts such as the names of colors and objects. Soon it metastasized and became a social cancer as a bureaucratic interest and job machine grew up around it.

    Some of the victims of bilingual education have ended up in menial careers because of their failure to learn English. Hispanic parents always were troubled by the idea. The working class and lower middle class types who were the victim of this scam may have wanted their children to learn their ancestral language, but they wanted their children to learn English too. In the West, the language of the country of your residence always is the language of success. You can bet your last dollar, in communities where the English is not the primary language on the street, the owners of any credible businesses, their administrative employee and anyone from there who goes to college or works for the government or a corporation all know English.

  • IKUredux

    Wow, just wow. The fact that the people who sneak into our country, demand that we pay for their free education, and provide them with food stamps, now have the unmitigated nerve to call learning English , the language spoken by the poor put out Whites who slave every day of their lives to make a better life for their families, but who have been forced by unfair taxes to support these usurpers of our country, “linguistic tyranny”? Are you fing me? The tyranny is the fact that Whites are being made to pay for their replacements!!! Hey Ricardo Lara, chinge te.

    • SentryattheGate

      South Florida is a good example; we let the Cubans come to escape Castro, and their thanks was to become intolerant of Americans and English! Even state Dept.of Transportation signs there are only in Spanish! You can’t get a job there w/o Spanish, and increasingly, can’t get a job IF YOU’RE NOT HISPANIC, or specifically, NOT CUBAN! Now that they’ve soiled their nest, they are spreading northward!

      • ElComadreja

        They were supposedly the “good” Hispanics. Turns out they’re as bad as the rest.

      • IKUredux

        Let me be perfectly clear: There is NO such thing as a model minority. By the way, I refer to non -Whites as minorities NOT because that is an accurate description of their numbers worldwide, or, as will soon be the case in what used to be my country, but rather because that seems to be the current definition of these non-Whites who are taking over our country. NOTE TO SELF: Could we all please stop calling the Black, brown, and yellow hordes MINORITIES!!! My God, they are taking over the world!

        • SentryattheGate

          Yes, well said! It reminds me that several years ago, some in some large US cities (I remember Los Angeles and Chicago), the city commissioners voted to outlaw use of the word “minority” in the commission as belittling. I warned my kids that it was really to do away with minority priviledge and rights once we are the minority! ,

          • IKUredux

            Sentry, worldwide, WE WHITES are the minority. Soon we will be the minority in our country. By the way, I think they have already covered that problem of “minority” rights. We now have “White Privilege”. So, you see, it really doesn’t matter how many of us there are.

  • Hallie Eva

    The article’s anti-bilingual comments are winning. Nothing in support of this nonsense.
    In Mexifornia, it is not at all unusual for our south of the border invaders to send their future gang banger brutes off to school with no language skills at all other than ungrammatical, vernacular Mexican or Indian.

    • ElComadreja

      I’ve found many of them to be illiterate in both English and Spanish.

  • archer

    When I was in grade school in the fifties, the one consistent thing pounded into our little brains was that America was fortunate to have one language and that helped make us a great nation, these bilingual supporters are tying to further destroy us.

    • IstvanIN

      But we never made it official!

      • ElComadreja

        Big mistake. The founding father’s couldn’t have foreseen this Hispanic invasion any more than they could have imagined the grotesque parody of homosexual “marriage”.

  • Greg Thomas

    This is not about “learning another language,” but rather another attempt to placate illegal invading mexicans who cannot or refuse to speak English. No surprise that a member of La Raza is behind this effort.

    • SentryattheGate

      And LaRaza gets hundreds of millions $$$ in grants from the taxpayers! Their ex-president Cecilia Munoz is a chief advisor to Obama! He’s appointed his second Secretary of Labor, both Hispanic!

      • Greg Thomas

        I know….

  • none of your business

    Another reason for this is to get rid of all the teachers who do not speak, read and write fluent Spanish. There are charter schools in Los Angeles that teach various indian languages including some version of ancient aztec they created. Those indian language schools are cesspools of corruption as they scam off millions of dollars in grants every year.

    • IstvanIN

      Not to mention those Indian languages are completely useless outside of an academic setting.

  • SentryattheGate

    Anglos HAD schools in which their kids could choose from several other languages to learn. Now it’s mostly just Spanish, which linguists consider a “dying Language” because it varies so much between “Spanish” speakers. University researchers say that a student needs English, German or Russian; because most research is done in those languages, not Spanish. Why would Hispanics want to speak the language of the raping, pillaging, plundering Conquistadors???? You’ve sure gotten a biased education! Spaniards pretty much abandoned Florida when they didn’t find the riches and the Fountain of Youth they were seeking there. They came as ruthless Conquistadors, w/o women and children and were not interested in merely becoming farmers, like the colonists in the rest of North America. You show the false arrogance and pride that is common in Latino cultures; who have little to be proud of! And, NO all our ancestors are not Hispanic!

  • SentryattheGate

    Hey, I’m not a fan of US foreign policy! To be consistent and fair-minded, why don’t you talk about the Spanish invasion of Central and South America? And, you probably don’t know that the Aztecs were conquered by surrounding “indian” tribes who allied with the Conquistadors, to fight the blood-thirsty, human -sacrificing Aztecs. Also, Indian tribes constantly raided, kidnapped and fought other tribes. And, understand that’s the way of human history; seeking new territory. Don’t you believe in diversity? Why should the Western Hemisphere is entirely Hispanic? What have they accomplished in ALL the vast territory that they have already???? Maybe you should try reading “The Wealth and Poverty of Nations” by David Landes PhD Harvard.