New Report Details Racial Gap Among US Children

David Crary, ABC News, April 1, 2014

In every region of America, white and Asian children are far better positioned for success than black, Latino and American Indian children, according to a new report appealing for urgent action to bridge this racial gap.

Titled “Race for Results,” the report is being released Tuesday by the Annie E. Casey Foundation, which for decades has worked to improve child well-being in the United States.

{snip} The new report tackles the topic head-on, with charts and ratings that convey dramatic racial discrepancies.

At the core of the report is a newly devised index based on 12 indicators measuring a child’s success from birth to adulthood. The indicators include reading and math proficiency, high school graduation data, teen birthrates, employment prospects, family income and education levels, and neighborhood poverty levels.

Using a single composite score with a scale of one to 1,000, Asian children have the highest index score at 776, followed by white children at 704.

“Scores for Latino (404), American-Indian (387) and African-American (345) children are distressingly lower, and this pattern holds true in nearly every state,” said the report.

Patrick McCarthy, the Casey Foundation’s president, said the findings are “a call to action that requires serious and sustained attention from the private, nonprofit, philanthropic and government sectors to create equitable opportunities for children of color.”

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For black children, the states with the lowest scores were in the South and upper Midwest–with Wisconsin at the bottom, followed closely by Mississippi and Michigan. The highest scores were in states with relatively small black populations–Hawaii, New Hampshire, Utah and Alaska.

Outcomes varied for different subgroups of Asian and Latino children. For example, in terms of family income levels, children of Southeast Asian descent–Burmese, Hmong, Laotian, Cambodian and Vietnamese–faced greater hurdles than children whose families came from India, Japan, the Philippines and China.

Among Latinos, children of Mexican and Central American descent faced the biggest barriers to success; those of Cuban and South American descent fared better in the index.

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Among its recommendations, the report urged concerted efforts to collect and analyze race-specific data on child well-being that could be used to develop programs capable of bridging the racial gap. It said special emphasis should be placed on expanding job opportunities as children in the disadvantaged groups enter adulthood.

“Regardless of our own racial background or socio-economic position, we are inextricably interconnected as a society,” the report concluded. “We must view all children in America as our own–and as key contributors to our nation’s future.”

[Editor’s Note: The full report can be found here.]

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  • “Among Latinos, children of Mexican and Central American descent faced the biggest barriers to success; those of Cuban and South American descent fared better in the index.”
    I think everyone on this website knows exactly why that is. Cubans and South Americans are more likely to be white.

    • Brian

      I bet if you analyze DNA, and look at where someone’s ancestors where 1,000 years ago, say 50% from country A, 25% from B, 25% from C, and make a weighted average for distance from the equator, it will correspond pretty well to this ‘success index’. The ‘barrier’ to success is genetic.

      • Peter Connor

        You can do that now, by ethnicity in a country, and it comes out pretty accurately and also predicts GDP/capita

      • 1stworlder

        You realize southern Africa & south america would be farther away from the equator than some white nations like Italy/Greece . The natives of Australia should be in the ball park of Japan

        • Brian

          True– I said it would ‘correspond pretty well’, but of course there are exceptions due to other bottleneck factors. I’m merely using latitude as a rough proxy for certain evolutionary strategies in response to environmental pressures, but there are many confounding variables.

          • John R

            Yeah, “confounding factors” like the presence of Negroes-“CONFOUND IT!”

        • John R

          Thank you! This “equator theory” is just a lot of bull. It comes down to the fact that the Congoid Race originated in Africa-near the Equator, and that the most intelligent peoples were mainly from the northern areas-Whites and Asians. If you go further south, in Southern Europe, and Southeast Asia, you probably run into a little bit of mixing with the Congoid Race in those areas. So, of course it seems that it has something to do with the Equator, which it does not.

          • Brian

            the most intelligent peoples were mainly from the northern areas-Whites and Asians.

            the Congoid Race originated in Africa-near the Equator,
            ===
            Sure sounds like there is a correlation to equatorial distance…

            It also seems obvious that the environmental/evolutionary pressures would be quite different based on whether someone has to deal with the problems associated with harsh/variable seasons, esp. winter, vs. the greater tropical diseases/parasite load of the tropics.

        • Brian

          I’m not sure what map you’re looking at.

      • NoRighty

        Really? Then explain why Eastern Europe has historically been less successful than Western Europe despite both being perfectly white?

    • 1stworlder

      They include feces colored skin people as white when they commit crimes. Check the Texas 10 most wanted list to see proof.

      • DNA Explains It All

        I been seeing that for ages. Here is the list of bad WHITE guys.

        • blight14

          Sickening…………….How is it that ‘Raul’ is the only Hispanic among the nine Hispanics? Do they use a roll of the dice where the only way a perp is listed as ‘Hispanic’ is if the two dice add up to 9? Otherwise, they’re ‘white’…..If you watch the A&E show ‘The First 48’, they do this all the time, Pepe Lopez can look like he just exited the jungle of Guatemala (long enough to rape/rob/pillage) and he’s magically categorized as ‘white’…..that is, unless Pepe is the one getting robbed/raped/murdered, then he’s transformed back to Hispanic…..how much more blatant can they get in artificially skewing the data? And John Q. Public just swallows it with no trouble.

    • Northerner

      Because they need to look for something positive, even if it means subdividing a large group into smaller groups.

      • But they do it even with Asians, who are more successful than White people.

    • Erika525

      Notice how the word “barrier” has crept into these discussions. This is a recent development and implies the source of the problem is exterior to the person. Chalk up one more victory of the “don’t blame the victim” left. No different than calling violent thugs “children at risk” though they prey on innocents.

  • LovelyNordicHeidi

    Using a single composite score with a scale of one to 1,000, Asian children have the highest index score at 776, followed by white children at 704.
    ———————————————————————
    As I am reading this, I start to wonder who is included under that concept of “White” because it seems to drag down the White index score. The answer “Asians are superior!!!” does not answer my question: “Who is included under that concept of White?”

    • NorthernWind

      Often times it’s quite fuzzy. There is a good chance that some Latino’s and some Middle-Easterners & North Africans fell under “White”.

    • shawnmer

      Well, that’s certainly a problem with crime stats, as the feds don’t break down Hispanics from non-Hispanic whites. I suspect with education stats there’s more self-identification on the race question.

      But I also don’t expect that’s dispositive in explaining the gap here. The Asians have scored “superior” to us in the same metrics that we’ve outperformed blacks and Hispanics too consistently for too long.

    • Yes, I am curious about that as well. The study does not go into much detail, but their definition of White is “people who identify as white or Caucasian AND have European ancestry” (my emphasis). So if that means what it seems to mean, that only people of European ancestry are counted as white, then it would be an accurate definition.

    • As for the Asian question, anyone who has ever known many Asians knows that they are borderline insane when it comes to parental pressure for academic success. My sister, who was a missionary in Taiwan and China for some years, was telling me the other night about how it used to break her heart to see all these Chinese students go into real depressions because they weren’t the number one student in their class. She said they would spend hours and hours EVERY DAY getting tutoring outside of school. There’s some Chinese word for the extra tutoring they do every day, but I can’t remember what it is. So my point is that even if Asians have a somewhat higher average IQ, many of the differences in success between them and us really are cultural, not genetic.

      • Brian

        I don’t know about China, but Koreans called these after-school tutors ‘hagwons’.

        • Tarczan

          Darkies call them “probation officers”.

      • Norseman

        Many of these tutoring sessions outside school seem to be counterproductive, at least if measured by true intellectual development as opposed to exam scores. One tutor, I believe it was in Japan, who thought English, explicitly forbade his own children from attending his own or similar institutions. Independent, individualized study would probably be more beneficial. I think it is questionable if the results in Oriental countries really are that impressive if you take into account the massive amount of time that goes into producing them. Large sections of their student population would probably improve by cutting time spent studying, at least on measures of real intellect. Based on the fragments I’ve seen of international test like PISA, these tests seem to measure real understanding. Oriental countries have done well on these tests. I believe they could have done at least as well with a less time-consuming approach. It might be that the education and exam systems in these countries, as well as their systems for screening potential employees are constituted in such a way that it makes this behavior rational for the individual.

    • John R

      Okay, I’ll jump in here. The Asians are about as smart as Whites. But they have a strong racial and cultural identity. They are not going to become “dead end kids” just because the blacks “are cooler.” So no wonder they achieve as much as they do. As to the blacks, well, hey, forget it; look what we have to work with!

      • Norseman

        It is sadly true that a large part of white children and youths are susceptible to destructive subcultural influences. The most obvious solution would be stricter parental control and a more firm grounding in ones own cultural heritage. While I fully agree with second part of that, I’m less certain about the first. I realize of course that there are extreme cases where very strict discipline is warranted. However, my belief is that most white children flourish in an environment of relative individual autonomy, where they are free to act within the confines of necessary life goals, ethical values and so on. Too many schools are unfortunately providing the wrong social environment for children and much of the anti-school attitude seen in many white children are in reality a reaction against loss of autonomy.
        The same can of course be said of children of all races, but our race is, I believe, one that cherish freedom and individual autonomy -not to be confused with solitude- above all.

        • John R

          Maybe, but you can’t go too far with this. Kids have been hating school since there were kids and schools. I was referring to the brainwashing by popular media, and how it adversely affects us White people, that’s all. As to White kids, and school, “We don’t need no integration; social engineers leave those kids alone…”

  • JustJeff

    Asians need to check their privilege.

    • Pro_Whitey

      Dang straight! Why do I have the impression that this study will not generate much in the way of cries of “Kill the Asians” or “Treason to Asians is loyalty to humanity”?

  • The version of this story I read was Michigan specific:

    www (dot) detroitnews (dot) com/article/20140401/METRO/304010029/Report-Well-being-African-Americans-Michigan-among-worst-nation

    Meaning Michigan and esp. Detroit blacks are the worst of the worst.

    Their solution is more money, more gibs, a higher minimum wage. Which won’t do any good, at least for its stated purpose. My solution is to return obsolete farm equipment to its OEM. But nobody cares about what I think.

  • Jesse James

    We need to correct the first line to make it a bit more accurate, “In every region of America, white and Asian children are far better positioned for success than black, Latino and American Indian children”. This should be changed to say “In every region of the planet”.

    • Whitetrashgang

      White and Asian children are far better equipped for success because of higher IQs and the desire to better themselves and society . There fixed it.

    • Oldcorporal

      “Positioned for success” is a twisting of the truth, too. The writer makes it sound like that some Grand Positioner places the Asian and White children in just the right places to succeed without having to try very hard.

      • John R

        “….pozz ish’nin beeze rayciss!” Sorry, I couldn’t resist!

    • 1stworlder

      not if you consider middle easterners to be Asian like they do in the UK

      • Jesse James

        We don’t here, that is a Brit thing. You’re all Eurasians to me.

        • Jesse James

          Admit it doesn’t the poster above look like a decision aid for ICE in deciding what people to preference for immigration law non-enforcement?

          Below is the poster for who not to let in under any circumstances.

          • Max

            Brimming with privilege and seething with hatred. Look at ’em!

  • So CAL Snowman

    “Patrick McCarthy, the Casey Foundation’s president, said the findings
    are “a call to action that requires serious and sustained attention from
    the private, nonprofit, philanthropic and government sectors to create
    equitable opportunities for children of color.””

    Because you know, that’s NEVER been tried before.

    • Romulus

      Im going to break from my tradition and post this quote;
      ” The purpose of an education is to teach people how to THINK”
      —–einstein
      That can be problematic if the blacks and browns down have the tools in the toolbox in the first place.

    • willbest

      They don’t need education, they need training.

  • leftists are delusional

    I wish I could remember who said it, but something to the effect of the problem with education is treating the various races as equals when all data indicates they are not.

    • dumuh

      James Watson said something very similar to that, “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really.”

      Nobel Prize winners are just plain ignorant though.

      • leftists are delusional

        That is the quote I was thinking of.

      • Max

        Yeah, and this particular one was unemployed within two days of them discovering his ignorance.

    • NoRighty

      So you suggest we teach our young according to their own natural abilities? Well that’s good as we already have lost our competitive edge in this globalized world. East Asians are far ahead in education than any other Western country because of their race. It means in the future, best brains should be found there and not here in America anyway.

  • pcmustgo

    I’ve met some nasty Vietnamese in my life.

    • Romulus

      Charlie?

    • Kenner

      I’ve noticed a lot of Viets and Cambodians can be quite coarse, possibly from their countries spending decades in the throes of war.

      • John R

        Or, possibly because their ancestors mixed with some of the darker races in that part of the world.

    • JohnEngelman

      They were probably in the North Vietnamese Army or the Viet Cong. I’ve met nice Vietnamese in downtown San Jose, California.

      • Martel

        ” I’ve met nice Vietnamese in downtown San Jose, California.”

        Its a shame you won’t tell your partly Asian grandchildren about this story, its so interesting. Imagine meeting someone from a different background who is nice, I can’t even fathom it. Amazing story, I always thought there where no exceptions to the rude, blank stare Asian. I will save this story in my archive of boring anecdotes of old creepy sinophiles.

        • JohnEngelman

          I have never known an Oriental I did not like. I have known many.

          • Martel

            Birds of a feather flock together I suppose. Asians usually do not have a personality which can be distinguished from their fellow Asians. For Europeans who lack social skills, I imagine there is a natural bond.

            Its strange how you seemingly often entered the china-towns, but are completely unaware of how closely intertwined the Chinese underworld is with the decent inhabitants of such neighbourhoods. I had somewhat of an Asian confidant years back, as decent as he was, Triad linked individuals did frequent the festivities he organized or attended, not something he would or could say no to.

          • JohnEngelman

            I have always felt safe living with Orientals, and visiting neighborhoods full of them.

          • Martel

            That corresponds with data of the National Gang Center. They seldom pray on other ethnicities, not simply because they would find it difficult to use their frail bodies to impose themselves on a European, Negro, or Hispanic, but because the crime is so integrated in Chinese society, criminals are able to conform to a code and work within a hierarchy. They rarely get reported because everyone is either into it, or doesn’t dare to speak up.

            I find it a shame you never investigated these issues. When I google “Vietnamese gang shooting” San Jose is one of the first place to pop up. I’m interested in other cultures and like to examine all aspects of these cultures. You seem to have found people who match up well with your personality, and never looked further. Perhaps I should not be surprised, but it is a shame.

            We are debating either way, and some more in-depth insights which are not designed to fit your glamorous portrayal of them would add something interesting.

          • Prepare to be shocked, John. Around SA, Tx, the number of white retired military men with crude, nasty, ugly Asian wives is significant. These women were clearly street wh*res somewhere in Asia–Thai, Cambodia, etc. Thus, you have white servicemen who bring their ex-prostitute wives to the USA and these street sluts become citizens. They’re still loud, brassy, and crude.
            Lots of these women are tiny. I think the men are latent pedos and homos. They’re attracted to that 10 year old boy look that these women used to have. Now, after 2 or 3 kids by the stupid white male who sold out his genes for some ***** they look like tired old street women. And, they’re dumb to boot.
            I feel sorry for these guys because their kids look nothing like them and probably are as dumb as the mothers. But for sure, these women do NOT deserve the high standard of living they enjoy here. They did nothing to earn it. Plus, they usually bring their mothers over here. Another one who did nothing to earn that high standard of living.
            White women should be the wives, but again I see these guys as latent pedos and homos, unable to deal with a good strong white woman. So, they play out their yellow fever fantasy.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            These losers marry southeast Asian wh*res because they can’t attract a good strong white woman, not because they’re unable to deal with one. They would love one if they could find one. In an earlier time period, such as the Middle Ages or the Renaissance, these guys would have ended their days as permanent bachelors or closet homosexuals.

          • Alexandra1973

            I know of someone who came back from Korea with a Korean wife. Not only does she barely speak English after so long in the US, but boy is she ornery. Yeah, it can be amusing at times…but not when it’s directed at you.

          • Max

            In my few observations, apart from Japanese women, this is true. They are abrasive, insistent, threatening and subversive if they don’t get their way. The average Thai, Filipina, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese is as bad as the worst white “shrew”.

          • Mason Gull

            See, in this day and age “strong woman” has become a euphemism for “uptight, whiny, feminist bitch.” Nobody wants a “strong woman” because “strong women” are incredibly annoying.

          • I was thinking in terms of the pioneer women, who trekked with their men across a vast, dangerous land to create the former USA. I was also thinking in terms of the white women who post here and on “racial” websites. They risk being disowned from their families for their “racism.”

          • Mason Gull

            And how many of those women do you meet on a regular basis? How many of them are under forty?

            You shouldn’t judge men who look to Asia for wives when many if not most American women have absolutely intolerable personalities.

          • Max

            They were white and devoted to their families and God. THEY don’t count.

          • Alexandra1973

            Don’t go to Albuquerque then. I’ve heard about Vietnamese gangs there. And their graffiti has been known to say things like “Die Round Eyes.”

        • Luca

          Please don’t make fun of John when he is giving you hardcore statistics and empirical evidence. I’m sure he invested a lot of time and research in to his well thought-out response.Like all liberals he stresses the exception and not the rule. If you say all blacks have a low IQ he’ll say “Well, I had a black coworker and I saw him reading a financial magazine, so not all blacks have a low IQ.”

  • How many of these reports documenting the “racial divide” (a clever libtard turn of phrase) have been published in the last 50 years? How many of them say the same thing over and over? The latest version pits Whites and Asians against blacks and Hispanics. Ok, the Whites and Asians have the smarts (along with a bit of cheating by the Asians), while the blacks and Hispanics don’t have the smarts.

    Whitey has sure done a poor job of oppressing those Asians, who want a piece of the affirmative action “we are an aggrieved, oppressed minority.”

    And the “solution” is always the same: more studies, more programs to “eradicate the legacy of slavery,” and more bee ess piled on more bee ess.

    One who has an interest in Truth gets tired of the bee ess. The truth is genetics shortchanged blacks and Hispanics on average and the “racial divide” will never be closed without miscegenating Whites out of exitence or rigging the tests.

    But libtards secretly love that racial divide. It gives them a chance to make money off it while feeling superior. I call “Enough already!”

    • John R

      Now come on! Give us a break! We white racists are just so busy holding down them colored people and those beaners that we lost track of the darn chinks! Hey, it is a tough job for us racists to try and keep track of everybody! LMAO!

    • John_HD

      Whitey has sure done a poor job of oppressing those Asians

      Always a good foil when some anti-white liberal starts talking about White Privilege.

  • So CAL Snowman

    “For example, in terms of family income levels, children of Southeast
    Asian descent–Burmese, Hmong, Laotian, Cambodian and Vietnamese–faced
    greater hurdles than children whose families came from India, Japan, the
    Philippines and China.”

    East Asians (Japanese/Chinese) derisively refer to Southeast Asians as “Sea Monsters.” East Asians view Sea Monsters as inferior people. Not surprisingly the sea monsters face greater (genetic) hurdles than the East Asians. I love how they use the term “facing greater hurdles” to completely evade the racial and ethnic differences between the Asian groups. Although I’m sure Engelman would have you believe that ALL Asians are super smart mathematicians and scientists.

    • Ed

      I’m curious about the data about the Vietnamese. The ones I’ve encountered seem successful enough.

      • So CAL Snowman

        Which explains why Vietnam is such a successful, first world country.

        • Mason Gull

          You’re more right than you think. It’s no worse in Vietnam than in Eastern Europe, which is surprising considering that they had to fight against both America and Communist China in the second half of the 20th century.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Are you sure about that? I’m pretty sure Vietnam is a lot worse than anywhere in eastern Europe.

          • Mason Gull

            Vietnam has a lower crime rate and a higher life expectancy than former Easter bloc nations (Not counting Yugoslavia) and a comparable GDP, all while being more rural and starting out with less.

          • JohnEngelman

            They fought the French too.

          • Martel

            Now they fight any attempts to integrate them into US society.

          • Martel

            Engelman in his post 9 minutes before this one, waiting to be moderated so I can’t reply:

            “Then why have they been friendly to me? Why have they introduced me to their families?”

            A conundrum indeed.

          • Jotun Hunter

            they enjoy his perpetual asian boot-licking and relate to his monotonous, creative-less droning

          • Norseman

            ..and each other.

          • Jesse James

            I have to admit it was interesting watching them absorb and defeat the Chinese PLAs invasion in 1979. It took a little of the sting out of our withdrawal and showed Communism wasn’t the monolithic alliance that we had thought. As an ethno-nationalist it is actually good to see how certain cultures are able to maintain their sense of identity and separateness over thousands of years.

        • Ed

          Well it’s better than Burma or Laos.

          • So CAL Snowman

            I can tell you that the Japanese and the Chinese consider the Vietnamese to be inferior to them. As far as Vietnam being better than Burma or Laos, it could possibly be due to French colonization rather than any inherent genetic trait possessed by the Vietnamese people themselves.

          • Ed

            The Chinese think everyone is beneath them, they called Whites barbarians. The Chinese are the ultimate race realist, one billion Han that think they are better than everyone else.

          • Jesse James

            You have to Han it them, they may not be better but they sure are the most typical people in the world. National Geographic after much research declared the 28 year old Han male to be the most typical face in the world. They numbered around 9 million. They are really missing their opportunity to throw on a hoodie and start perpetrating some serious crimes. Who the heck could pick them out of the line up?

          • lol that looks almost exactly like a friend of mine

          • Jesse James

            Keep him out of the cornfields, we don’t need the Chinese making Frankenstein foods like Monsanto and their cartel of magic bean makers.

          • Alexandra1973

            Almost looks like one of the “greys.” Seriously.

          • Stalin said that.

          • Jesse James

            Bingo. The Man. Yes, “The Gardener of Human Happiness”, “The Man of Steel”, Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvii himself.

          • Norseman

            From a strictly racial point of view are Vietnamese, Laotians, Burmese, Thais etc. to varying degrees a mix between yellows and browns?

        • Jesse James

          I say give the Vietnamese a break, you know they wish the North had lost the war so they could be rolling in stuff like the South Koreans. Heck I might even drive a little “Sat Cong” car around town.

      • I’ve only known one Vietnamese family, and they were wealthy restaurant owners. But the restaurant they owned was a Chinese restaurant, so it might be that they were ethnic Chinese from Vietnam. Not sure. They were not dark skinned at all.

        • John R

          Good point. Not dark skinned, might really be ethnic Chinese. In Southeast Asia, the Chinese are pretty much like the Jews in Europe and the USA.

        • Ed

          Maybe you’re on to something. The ones I know have a Chinese look to them but not quite.

      • Max

        Same observation for me BUT they were the ones able to get through an immigration filter of the past which was nothing like the vacuum sucking in immigrants from Central-America, the middle-east and Africa now.

      • John R

        First, the Vietnamese that live here are the ones who fled communism. They are made up of the more educated and affluent segments of Vietnamese society. They would be the people who had the most to lose from a communist victory, and the least to gain from communist social policies. Further, you say “successful enough”? Compared to whom? Blacks? Mexicans? I rest my case.

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          Southeast Asians, including the Vietnamese, are less educated than whites. They also earn less than whites and have higher rates of poverty. They’re not exactly thriving, but what do you expect from the “Mexicans of Asia”?

      • Brian

        There are different subgroups of Vietnamese though… Hmong seem to be the negroes of the country.

        • Jesse James

          Well we have several Vietnam vets that regularly post on Amren so I will defer to them reference the Hmong but in the American accounts that I have read they Hmong or montagnard troops often were held in higher esteem by our Special Forces who worked with them than the lowland Vietnamese. Shouldn’t we extend them some respect?

          • Brian

            I make no comment on the actions of Hmong w.r.t. American forces in the Vietnam War. I’m strictly talking about the income, scholastic achievements, and crime stats among US immigrants compared to Vietnamese-Americans generally.

          • Jesse James

            I don’t doubt you are right about those stats, was just trying to provide a little perspective. They were good allies by most accounts. Now I am a little confused as to the different tribes or whatever but some of the Montagnards pissed off the Vviet Cong enough that they sent two battalions of troops into the village of Dak Son in December of 1967 to punish them for their support of the US and the South Vietnamese government. They used flame throwers to burn the village and the people hiding in their dugouts killing 252 civilians in a “revenge” attack. Many of the survivors were taken hostage after the raid.

          • Guest

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          • Jesse James

            Note the old US Ranger shield with the Confederate battle flag. My dad’s Ranger handbook describes the Ranger Badge and notes: “Left top portion is Confederate battle-flag which refers to distinguished service to the Confederacy during War between the States.” They still let us serve today and many of us still do but no longer do they let us serve with the honor of equals who have our own proud traditions.

    • Oldcorporal

      East Asians tend to follow closely behind Ashkenazic Jews as the group with the second-highest IQs in the world. The Southeast Asians are way back in the pack — not even close.

      • LovelyNordicHeidi

        Average White, Asian and Jewish American IQs are 103, 106 and 113 respectively according to Murray. Average ethnic German IQ is around 107 according to Lynn. Rushton, Lynn and Murray claim that the average East Asian IQ is higher than that of Whites (but note for yourself that the average Asian American IQ is lower than that of ethnic Germans and that the average IQ of Israel is lower than that of American Jews). However, one must absolutely not forget: Rushton, Lynn and Murray also emphasise that White populations create more IQs in the genius territory which leads to unmatched creativity and innovation.

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          Lovely Nordic Heidi, not every psychometrician believes that Asian IQ is higher than white IQ. For example:

          Flynn brings a similar precision to the question of whether Asians have a genetic advantage in I.Q., a possibility that has led to great excitement among I.Q. fundamentalists in recent years. Data showing that the Japanese had higher I.Q.s than people of European descent, for example, prompted the British psychometrician and eugenicist Richard Lynn to concoct an elaborate evolutionary explanation involving the Himalayas, really cold weather, premodern hunting practices, brain size, and specialized vowel sounds. The fact that the I.Q.s of Chinese-Americans also seemed to be elevated has led I.Q. fundamentalists to posit the existence of an international I.Q. pyramid, with Asians at the top, European whites next, and Hispanics and blacks at the bottom.

          Here was a question tailor-made for James Flynn’s accounting skills. He looked first at Lynn’s data, and realized that the comparison was skewed. Lynn was comparing American I.Q. estimates based on a representative sample of schoolchildren with Japanese estimates based on an upper-income, heavily urban sample. Recalculated, the Japanese average came in not at 106.6 but at 99.2. Then Flynn turned his attention to the Chinese-American estimates. They turned out to be based on a 1975 study in San Francisco’s Chinatown using something called the Lorge-Thorndike Intelligence Test. But the Lorge-Thorndike test was normed in the nineteen-fifties. For children in the nineteen-seventies, it would have been a piece of cake. When the Chinese-American scores were reassessed using up-to-date intelligence metrics, Flynn found, they came in at 97 verbal and 100 nonverbal. Chinese-Americans had slightly lower I.Q.s than white Americans.

          The Asian-American success story had suddenly been turned on its head. The numbers now suggested, Flynn said, that they had succeeded not because of their higher I.Q.s. but despite their lower I.Q.s. Asians were overachievers.

          http://www(dot)newyorker(dot)com/arts/critics/books/2007/12/17/071217crbo_books_gladwell?currentPage=all

          • Martel

            First time I see this.Thanks.

          • Very interesting… This explanation actually fits in better with my experience of Asians. They are overachievers.

          • willbest

            Well you can compensate for 20-30 points of IQ with ambition and a good work ethic. I work for plenty of 85-90 IQ business owners that pull down 6 figures doing useful things and I can’t even count the number of 105-110 girls I know pushing worthless paper around for 30-40k

          • Luca

            I also believe a brain can be exercised and developed better when we are young. How it develops is largely up to our parents, ourselves and our teachers. Much like a muscle the more we work it the better it may become to a certain point. Children who read early and often and learn a second language tend to do better in school by nurturing their brains and developing positive work ethics early on.

          • dd121

            Okay Engelman, get in here.

          • redpill99

            Flynn’s overall research agenda is to debunk IQ tests and believes that over time black and white IQ’s will converge due to the Flynn effect.

            if you’re going to cite Flyn on east asian-white difference

            then here’s his view on black-white iq difference

            From wikipedia

            A 1999 article published in American Psychologist,
            summarises much of his research. On the alleged genetic inferiority of
            Blacks on IQ tests, he lays out the argument and evidence for such a
            belief, and then contests each point. He interprets the direct
            evidence—when Blacks are raised in settings that are less
            disadvantageous—as suggesting that environmental factors explain genetic
            differences. And yet, he argues that the environmental explanation
            gained force after the discovery that IQ scores were rising over time.
            Inter-generational IQ differences among Whites and across nations were
            larger than the Black-White IQ Gap and could not be accounted for by
            genetic factors, which, if anything, should have reduced IQ, according
            to scholars he references. He posits that the Black-White IQ score gap
            can be entirely explained by environmental factors if “the average
            environment for Blacks in 1995 matches the quality of the average
            environment for Whites in 1945.”

            ^

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Try quoting the rest of the passage, bud:

            However in more recent work, Flynn moves away from this latter claim, stating “American blacks are not in a time warp so that the environmental causes of their IQ gap with whites are identical to the environmental causes of the IQ gap between the generations”, and “The Flynn Effect is irrelevant to showing that the racial IQ gap is environmental.”

            Flynn does not deny the reality of g-factor or that it has significant predictive validity.

          • redpill99

            If you continue to read ….

            In July 2012, several media outlets reported Flynn as claiming that
            women had, for the first time in a century, surpassed men on IQ tests
            based on a study he conducted in 2010.[18][19]
            However, Flynn announced that the media had seriously distorted his
            results and went beyond his claims, revealing that he had instead
            discovered that the differences between men and women on one particular
            test, the Raven’s Progressive Matrices, had become minimal in five
            modernised nations (whereas before 1982 women had scored significantly
            lower). Women, he argued, caught up to men in these nations as a result
            of exposure to modernity by entering the professions and being allowed
            greater educational access. Therefore, he claimed, when a total account
            of the Flynn Effect is considered, women’s closing the gap had moved
            them up in IQ slightly faster than men as a result. Flynn had previously
            documented this same trend among ethnic minorities and other
            disadvantaged groups. According to Flynn, the sexes are “dead equal on
            cognitive factors . . . in their ability to deal with using logic on the
            abstract problems of Raven’s,” but that temperamental differences in
            the way boys and girls take the tests likely account for the tiny
            variations in mean scores, rather than any difference in intellectual
            ability.[19]”

            Flynn claims that due to the Flynn effect women closed the IQ gap with men. This is in contrast with several other IQ researchers claiming women score lower on IQ tests.

            His research here is that the Flynn effects can close IQ gaps. So his earlier claims about Asian-white IQ gaps should be regarded with suspicion.

          • sshadow

            John Engelman is strangely silent.

          • captainc

            how do you explain the PISA test result then? Shanghai Chinese, Singaporeans, Koreans, Japanese.

        • Ella

          Reading the score results, we are NOT even talking about 1SD (15pts. higher) but just a few points overall! You may notice an intelligence difference between 103 and 138 during a conversation or actual school performance, but that would be 2 SD above the norm.

        • panasian

          The IQ of Ashkenazi is very exaggerated. According to Richard Lynn, The IQ of American Ashkenazi Jews is about 110 and that of the Israeli Ashkenazi Jews is around 103. So after factoring in the population difference between these two groups( also using the same ratio for the Ashkenazi Jews living elsewhere), you come up with about 107 for the Ashkenazi Jewish IQ. But the IQ of Sephardic Jews is about 92 (according to Lynn). Again when you factor in the population difference between the Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews . you come up with about 103 for the IQ Jews as a whole which is similar to that of whites.

          • Luca

            Isn’t it odd that they would segregate and publish Sephardic from Ashkenazi IQ?

            You don’t see them segregating Sicilian from Tuscan Italian IQ’s now do you? Do we even see it anywhere else? Hmmm,…

          • panasian

            Considering Sephardic Jews make up about 40% of the total Jewish population, I think it’s very important to state the IQ of both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews and come up with the average IQ for the Jews as a whole, because the IQ difference between these two groups is huge.

      • KevinPhillipsBong

        Ahh, Asia’s Mexico.

      • Luca

        There are different types of Asian DNA, the ones with the greater percentage of the northeastern type DNA are the high IQ ones. The Japanese have the most of this type of DNA followed by Chinese and Korean. The racial term Asian, just like the term White, is a very broad unscientific term used to make conversation easy. It has no basis in accuracy or concise meaning.

        • panasian

          Can you elaborate on the type of DNA Japanese are supposed to have more than either Chinese or Korean for high IQ?

          • Luca

            According to the Nat Geo. Genographic project 2.0, NatGeo has discovered that nine ancestral regions make up each of our genomes. They are Northeast Asian, Mediterranean, Southern African, Southwest Asian, Oceanian, Southeast Asian, Northern European and Sub-Saharan African. According to NatGeo each of us is a blend of these nine ancestral regions, except Native Americans, Oceanians and the Khoisan people.

            Japanese have approx. 75% NE Asian DNA and 25% SE Asian DNA.

            The NE Asian type seems to best for IQ.

            Chinese have about 72% NE Asian type, 28% SE Asian.

            Kinh (Vietnam) 57% NE / 43% SE

            etc.

          • panasian

            It seems to me that the 3% difference in the NE Asian DNA between Chinese and Japanese makes little difference in their IQ (105 for both). According to you, Koreans have less NE Asian DNA than either Chinese or Japanese. But the IQ of Korea is 106 which is obviously higher than 105 for both Chinese and Japanese. I think you have to take the NE Asian DNA theory with a grain of salt.

          • Luca

            Personally, I believe that DNA or heredity only covers about 75% of what a person’s IQ is or can be. The rest could be subject to environmental or parental and cultural influences. While the Japanese have 3% more NE Asian DNA they also have 3% less SE Asian DNA, the opposite is true of Chinese. I don’t have precise figures for Korean nor did I quote them. We have figures for South Korean average IQ and you are correct. The country of South Korea has the 2nd highest average IQ.

          • panasian

            You said “The Japanese have the most of this type of DNA followed by Chinese and Koreans”. From this statement, I assume #1 Japan, #2 China, #3 Korea. I agree with you on IQ being combination of heredity and environment. I just don’t know the exact mix.

  • leftists are delusional

    In any education and race story I feel compelled to post this pic, the smartest group of blax and the dumbest group of whites taking the SAT are roughly equal.

    • Norseman

      Another striking feature is that biggest jump in SAT scores, from the level below or above, occur at the tail ends of the income distribution of each race, the lowest earning whites being a slight exception.

  • NorthernWind

    How many more billions need to be spent on this foolish quest before the egalitarians throw in the towel?

    • RisingReich

      They would spend the world’s entire wealth on this idiocy.

      • Max

        They depend on spending someone else’s wealth on the project.

  • shawnmer

    “B-b-b-but … the gap is CLOSING!”

    Isn’t that what our intellectually honest friends on the left insisted when Ryan cited Charles Murray the other day??

  • paul marchand

    In ref to : “We must view all children in America as our own–and as key contributors to our nation’s future.”
    NO. We have a responsibility to take care of OUR kids. And let ” them ” take care of theirs.
    and
    No. OUR OWN have been chased out of schools, out of cities, no affirmative action, quotas, not huge welfare / grant recipients, more likely our children’s parents are paying through the nose for insurance due ObamaCare, while theirs get a huge gift.

  • David Ashton

    Just “proves” how VERY “racist” the structures are of “White” America, doesn’t it? Even more reparations and affirmative actions, please.

  • Oldcorporal

    Notice how the usual assumption is made: Black and Hispanic children are lagging behind because the White establishment won’t try harder to help them. Never a mention of why black and Hispanic children always need extra help in the first place. Just once I’d like to see a mainstream media story formed around the question: Why DO blacks and Hispanics always need extra help? And then come in third and fourth among the four main racial groups in school achievement? Could it be that there IS something about Whites and Asians just being naturally smarter? But of course, we’ll never see that, will we?

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      Liberals might argue “Well, eh, the media reflect the opinions of the people…. So, eh, you know, that’s why the media never asks such difficult questions.”

      • The Verdict of History

        In response to that point I’d note that the mainstream media most certainly did NOT reflect mainstream public opinion in the following cases, and yet they STILL shoved these causes down the public’s throats in an effort to convince the masses that supporting these “progressive” positions would place us “on the right side of history”:

        – Desegregation of the armed forces
        – Desegregation of schools
        – the Civil and Voting rights acts of the 1960s
        – Gay marriage
        – Feminist causes
        – Abortion “rights”
        – removal of prayer from schools
        – Obamacare (!!!!!)

        The elite media are utterly out of touch with the mainstream public, and have been since the post WW2-era began.

        • RisingReich

          The elite media are not out of touch. To describe it as such marginalizes the real Evil intent with which these ‘campaigns’ have been waged against Whitey.

          They move forward with purpose. Chalking it up to being ‘misinformed’, ‘out of touch’, or ‘stupid’ does not accurately describe this behavior, and dangerously explains it away as a ‘mistake’.

          • Max

            I think that the “liberal on the street” and the low-level media parrots ARE out of touch. They are compartmentalized and the directives come from on high. I think many of these footsoldiers are sincerely clueless which is why you have the occasional “conversion experience” to reality.

      • Ella

        Heidi, are you in Germany? How do Turks fair in intelligence in Deutschland comparing to US Hispanics?

    • dcc2379

      Tsk, tsk. There is no fault on the colored child that misses school frequently, has more uncles over visiting momma than a pharmacy has pills, and is dumber than a box of rocks. Still not his fault, for if those teachers would just do a better job, poof, we’d add gray matter, civility, and a desire to get off welfare. Don’t blame the victim!

  • Ed

    I wonder if the folks at the Casey Foundation will just throw up their hands in the air and admit defeat one day.

    • Den

      Lol

  • Romulus

    On an unrelated topic ( seeing as how there isnt just an open topic forum on this site) if there ever was any doubt about the alliance between the “right” and ____________, please read thelast two days articles on the occ observer.
    With regards to the above article, the keys to country are being forcibly relinquished through the long slow march of our institutions. We are going to need resources and organization. We will need to be prepared to defend the bill of rights.

  • Luca

    I am sure the Liberals will come up with some kind of common sense, logical, approach to bridging the gap. Like giving the blacks 300 extra points for ebonics skills.

    See how clever these liberals are.

  • dd121

    We get lots of stories from the left that try to sell the notion that blacks have low IQs because of racism and poverty. It makes a lot more sense to look at it they’re in poverty because of low IQs. Maybe that will occur to them some day. Naw.

    • Ed

      The Left can’t admit that Blacks even have lower IQ on average. Will not even acknowledge that their culture simply compounds the problem.

      • dd121

        That’s the lynchpin of their deluded arguments. Admit that blacks have lower IQ, and that acknowledges that nothing can be done to fix their problems.

        • dcc2379

          It be waysisum shoo nuff. All we’s has to do is give da collared boy mo money an opportoonity.

  • sbuffalonative

    “Race for Results”

    Endless alliteration. Can’t have a race-based program without alliteration. Funny how that never seems to help.

    • Max

      “Race to oblivion”.

  • sbuffalonative

    “We must view all children in America as our own–and as key contributors to our nation’s future.”

    Your children are not my children. I am no more responsible for your children than you are for mine.

    • Peter Connor

      It takes a village….

      • sbuffalonative

        I believe I cracked that African village code.

        What it really means is ‘my children are your burden’.

    • dcc2379

      I wish I could view all children as my own so I could seek late-term abortions into the 87th trimester (roughly when a chile of mine turns 21).

    • NoRighty

      Lol! Then stop paying all your taxes to the state immediately! Pay for your own roads, highways, police and other services you consume as “granted” by the state.

  • r j p

    For example, in terms of family income levels, children of Southeast Asian descent–Burmese, Hmong, Laotian, Cambodian and Vietnamese–faced greater hurdles than children whose families came from India, Japan, the Philippines and China.

    JohnEngelman hasn’t commented yet. Must be busy masturbating to this report.

    • RisingReich

      He still frequently struggles with properly formulating sentences b/c of the Kosher member that muffles his speech.

      • Ella

        I cook lots of pork to celebrate my ethnic heritage and ask for it at restautants if it is pork ribs or schnitzels.

    • JohnEngelman

      I will add this article to my list of documented facts. You will see it again.

      • Martel

        Wow, a new fact added to your dusty collection?
        This must be my lucky day.

        • JohnEngelman

          Using a single composite score with a scale of one to 1,000, Asian children have the highest index score at 776, followed by white children at 704.

          – David Crary, ABC News, April 1, 2014

          • Martel

            And there it is. Out in full force, shiny and brand new, his new fact. It a great day people, Engelman just got a tiny bit less repetitive.

            Please all take the day off tomorrow, you will not see this very often.

          • David Ashton

            The trouble is all his “facts” are “identical” like the ten green bottles standing on the wall – of granite impenetrability. So no dancing in the streets of Chinatown’s Dragon Festival for this spoilsport, sorry, Martel.

        • David Ashton

          “You will see it again.” And again and again….
          Now, there’s a surprise for us all.

        • LovelyNordicHeidi

          Zijn laatste zin klinkt eerder als een bedreiging. Ik concludeer daaruit dat hij ons met opzet lastig valt. Zie dit als het bewijs dat deze meneer niet een geheugenprobleem heeft. Er is iets anders aan de hand.

          • “The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic.
            First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when
            there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all
            this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged,
            they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you
            accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters,
            and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know
            exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of
            these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up
            and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected
            again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow
            that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you
            believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your
            amazement was great the next day. The *** had not the slightest
            recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as
            though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged,
            affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had
            proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.”

          • Martel

            Het is een vreemde man. Ik hou het op een lichte vorm van autisme en een nare persoonlijkheid.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Je bedoelt, zware (!!!) vorm van autisme. Hij reageert niet als een normaal persoon.

          • Martel

            Haha zo erg zal het niet zijn.Hij kan nog redelijk antwoorden als het hem niet te moeilijk word gemaakt. Hij heeft wel moeite met bepaalde situaties, dat is duidelijk.

          • Norseman

            Just out of curiosity, is that Dutch or Afrikaans?

          • Martel

            That is Dutch. Afrikaans is basically old Dutch. Hij(he) would be Hy in Afrikaans. Hem(him) would be hom. Conjugation in Afrikaans is also more simplistic, you almost never see words like ”antwoorden”, this will likely be ”antwoorde”.

          • Norseman

            I once met a Flem who told me that Flemish is basically old-fashioned Dutch. I knew they were related, but I thought it was more akin to the closeness of languages like Norwegian and Swedish.

          • Martel

            In fact, calling it ”old fashioned” Dutch gives the wrong impression. Afrikaans is truly old fashioned Dutch, Flemish only uses some terms which have fallen out of existence in the Netherlands, also you, in Dutch jij, is termed gij or ge. A Dutchmen only hears ‘gij’ from Belgians or reading through a bible, it’s English equivelant would be ‘thee’ or ‘thou’. The diminutive form is also old fashioned in some words. Belgians borrow more French words when we have moved from German to English after world war two, and the Belgians use many proverbs the Dutch are not familiar with. In general, besides the accent, there are very little differences, in writing the Flemish are little to no different from the Dutch. Naturally local dialects may differ, but Frisian spoken in the far north of the Netherlands is nearly impossible to understand for a dutchmen , as are some Dutch dialects.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Dutch and Afrikaans are mutually intelligible, much more than Dutch, High German and Low German are mutually intelligible. Those who speak Afrikaans do not want their language to be compared to Dutch for some reason, and surely they do not want their language to be said to be identical with Dutch. Honestly, I would argue on the basis of mutual intelligibility that Dutch and Afrikaans are part of the same dialect continuum.

          • Norseman

            I always had an impression, right or wrong, of Afrikaans as being more functional, folksy and flexible than Dutch.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            That is true if you mean that Afrikaans is more simplified. Afrikaans has virtually no verbal inflections. Compare that to Dutch which DOES have verbal inflections. I do not mean to denigrate Afrikaans by stating this fact, because I just care about telling the truth. Personally speaking, I like Dutch and Afrikaans.

          • Martel

            I have not spoken to Afrikaners who believe this, fortunately, because I would consider them fools. Understanding an Afrikaner is little harder then talking to a ‘Boer’ in the Netherlands.Everyone I know who has gone to South Africa verifies how simple it is to converse with Afrikaners.

  • Eddie Lutz

    Annie Casey Foundation – Just another social liberal group trying to steal your money. Because they didn’t speak a word about culture and values.

    • Luca

      Another exercise by the academic mafia to abscond with more money to close the unclosable gap. That money will end up in salaries and union dues and yet another study begging for more money.

  • RisingReich

    “Regardless of our own racial background or socio-economic position, we
    are inextricably interconnected as a society,” the report concluded. “We
    must view all children in America as our own–and as key contributors to
    our nation’s future.”

    This is collectivist, Marxist, communist malarkey. I can’t believe that Whites aren’t smart enough (not the ones here) to see this is a simple attempt at pulling the heart strings of DWLs to literally GIVE TILL IT HURTS.

    Ugly round and brown babies and dark skinned future rapists are not anyone’s responsibility other than the monsters that created them…minus ONE responsibility. It is the White responsibility to put these cretins down when they offend. In that SOLE responsibility, Whites are seriously lacking…but starting to come around.

    • Max

      This is more “It takes a (government subsidized) village to raise a (government owned) child” propaganda.

  • KevinPhillipsBong

    Mother Nature is a racist.

    • Kenner

      Ever see a photo of Mother Nature and Paula Deen together? Of course not!

    • Bossman

      In the words of my favorite philosopher, Mother Nature is just a veil, a beautiful veil, thrown over the horrors of chaos.

  • Perhaps this is because white and Asian children tend to have white and/or Asian parents, parents who do old-fashioned things like getting married, staying married, making responsible financial decisions, abstaining from drugs, the sorts of things Tim Wise hates about us.

    • IstvanIN

      Blacks get married, of course only after they have keeds by three different men and then marry the fourth, but they do it.

  • JohnEngelman

    Patrick McCarthy, the Casey Foundation’s president, said the findings are “a call to action that requires serious and sustained attention from the private, nonprofit, philanthropic and government sectors to create equitable opportunities for children of color.”

    – David Crary, ABC News, April 1, 2014

    This sounds like a call for yet another expensive government spending program that will not work any more than did the War on Poverty and No Child Left Behind.

    The best thing we can do for blacks and Hispanics is to impose more discipline in their schools in order to create a safe environment for those who want to learn. Otherwise we should not expect miracles.

    • Ella

      Best thing for Whites is to separate from Blacks and Latinos and manage their own education. Enrolling them among Asians would suffice and even help boast competitiveness.

      • JohnEngelman

        Whites and Orientals are natural allies. We get along well together. We would be better off without blacks and Hispanics.

        Blacks and Hispanics would be lost without us. They are unable to create viable civilizations. That is why they try to immigrate to white countries.

        • Jotun Hunter

          then why do asians do it too?

          • JohnEngelman

            During the major Chinese and Japanese immigrations China and Japan were under developed countries. This is no longer the case. There is less immigration from those countries now. There is hardly any immigration from Japan. The influx of Vietnamese came after the War in Vietnam.

          • Jotun Hunter

            they japanese are the one we’d like to see – how ironice they are the ones who stay in their own country. I dont know that it is ‘no longer the case’ regarding chinese immigration – where are you precious stats on that matter? I see more and more of them in major western centres, moreso than any other immigrant probably.

        • Alexandra1973

          But if we all mixed, there’d be no more Whites or Orientals.

  • 4321realist

    “We must view all children in America as our own–and as key contributors to our nation’s future.”

    Yes, but isn’t it a bit of a problem that “our children” from various races and ethnicities give their first loyalties to each of their countries of origin and its history, ancestry, customs and culture, and are all taught that this country and its founding people are to be hated and despised?

    Liberal dregs lack much wisdom and have great difficulty in viewing matters logically using plain, ordinary common sense.

    And the basis for this problem more likely than not is rooted in a mental disorder common to all of them.

  • Bossman

    The USA gets only the cream of East Asian society. It is only in the last 50 years that some Asians are allowed to immigrate to the USA. Before that there was what was called “The Chinese Exclusion Act” which was extended to include all Asians. As for so-called Latinos, those at the bottom are more likely to be near 100% indigenous. In Latin America, Indians are still at the bottom of society.

    • Martel

      This is true, Asians in Europe are anything but remarkable. They behave well towards the natives, although crime is quite high amongst their own, as it is amongst US Asians.

      • IstvanIN

        I could do without Filipinos.

    • Max

      According to *some* here, ALL east Asians are cream.

  • JSS

    “We must view all children in America as our own–and as key contributors to our nation’s future.”

    That’s a good analogy actually. Amurrika is sort of like a big orphanage full of brown and black rejects who dont know their fathers. They never have to grow up because us Whites are expected to take care of them forever. So in that way yes they are like annoying kids you don’t want and are forced to look after. And they are surely contributing to Amurrikas demise.

  • John R

    Gee, I am just so surprised by the rankings: Blacks at the bottom; Whites and Asians at the top; Hispanics in the middle. (Yeah, people, you know I am obviously being sarcastic.)

  • MBlanc46

    ‘The “findings are “a call to action that requires serious and sustained
    attention from the private, nonprofit, philanthropic and government
    sectors to create equitable opportunities for children of color.”’

    Of course, how did I not see it? The disparities are a matter of “opportunities”, not innate ability. We need more programs to achieve equity. So dig deep folks, we’ve got to help the children. And the academics. And the bureaucrats. And the politicians.

  • willbest

    “The highest scores were in states with relatively small black populations–Hawaii, New Hampshire, Utah and Alaska.”

    So when blacks are forced to assimilate they behave better than they do when they are allowed to do things their way.

  • MekongDelta69

    All people of all colors are all the same

    April Fools…

    • IstvanIN

      Sort of like today’s car interiors, any color you want from black to grey to beige.

  • CJ Haze

    Funny how Latino and the made-up word ‘Hispanic’ are interchangeable in studies to fit a certain agenda. Hispanic guy kills a non-hispanic? He (notice I didn’t bastardize our language by saying ‘they’?) is white. Hispanic guy kills a white? He’s Latino.

    Hispanic guy fails the third grade? He’s white. Hispanic guy passes the fourth grade? He’s Latino.

    Education follows the same paradigm as crime. Fail; you’re white. Succeed; you’re ‘hispanic.’ The books are more than cooked. They’re stewed. And still disparate impact and critical race theory and white privilege are peddled to the masses by sideways monopolies known as media conglomerates. It all makes me sick… literally.

    • IstvanIN

      Actually Hispanic/Latino on White crime is counted as White on White.

  • Ella

    I thought the elite dreamed in having a permanent “brown” underclass to service their basic needs from nanny to construction workers. I did not know that high I.Q. and higher education must be a prerequisite now. Any society does not need millions of engineers or middle managers. Where is the tragedy?

    • Northerner

      These studies are done to look for disparities in education, which then leads to a lowering of standards (i.e., “dumbing down”) of the system to cater to underachieving groups.

  • ShermanTMcCoy

    Stupid. Lazy. Violent. Promiscuous.

    All fallure actors.

  • Kenner

    Brown v Board of Education = Black v education.

  • hastings88

    “We must view all children in America as our own–and as key contributors to our nation’s future.”

    Blacks and Latinos are not contributors to the future of the U.S. They are a problem, possibly our undoing.

  • Jon Doe

    I’m not protecting Hispanics in any way but technically, Mexicans are part or descendants of the Mongoloid race. So genetically speaking there should not be any type of genetic
    “barriers”. From my understanding Amerindians came by way of the Land Bridge or by some type of sea travel from the Pacific Islands. They had to have come from Asia especially the Inuit Alaska. The south american ones can only be pacific islander/Samoan and they are mongoloid as well. Maybe they migrated down or came by sea but in any scenario they must be some type of Asian. It just doesnt make sense… If one argues the climate scenario that alleges colder climates races are superior, well… I work in IT and can confidently say there are a lot Indians (from India) who work with me and are very smart. I pretty sure it is very hot in India. I have done business in Singapore as well (very hot, advanced city, safer and cleaner than Chicago, New York) but very smart business men polite people, I think they are Asian but like an off Asian its weird, a little darker and smaller) anyway there is something not right. Genetic thing needs more study and the climate thing I just dont believe true

    • captainc

      the chinese or the malays or the indians?

  • blight14

    Many of the comments after the original article are ‘typical’……aka denial isn’t just a river in Egypt……I wonder how the egalitarians/leftists explain Haiti/Congo/Mozambique?

    • TXCriollo

      They dont ive argued with a lefty on haiti, you get weird responses. Like you know the dr is much better and it has like a 20% white population haiti killed all of theres off and look how it turned out for them

  • Sloppo

    “Regardless of our own racial background or socio-economic position, we are inextricably interconnected as a society,” the report concluded.

    Under that quote would be a good place to paste a picture of a tick interconnected to a host.

  • Alec Smart

    When I click on the AP version, the title of the article is as benign and misleading as they could make it lol.

  • I think it’s important to consider genetics, but I think it’s just as stupid to ONLY consider genetics as it is to never consider genetics. The difference between Whites and Asians is much smaller than the difference between Whites and Blacks. It’s unrealistic to suggest that the huge gap between Whites and Blacks is due purely to bad study habits, but it’s also unrealistic to say that nothing other than genetics can help explain group differences. It’s well known that Asians are obsessive about school. White people aren’t. Consequently, you would expect Asians to do better in school.

  • I agree.
    However, I think it is worth seriously considering that the Asian mentality about school is kind of nuts. I wouldn’t want to put that kind of pressure on my children. Encouraging them to succeed is one thing, making them feel suicidal because they got an 87 is another thing.

  • Luca

    They are recent visitors to those areas, their DNA did not evolve there. And if they had any sense they would have migrated further south so they could prosper more.

    • captainc

      how about the lapps in Finland?

  • Luca

    Anyone who invests in hard work and dedication to a task will definitely do better. The problem with blacks and browns is that they are complacent and prefer to grab the low hanging fruit. So many blacks are content with EBT and welfare. So many hispanics are happy with menial jobs making enough to eat, drink and collect benefits on the side.

    • Tarczan

      What that says is that it doesn’t have to be as bad as it is. Eliminate welfare through the use of federalism. I know everyone thinks we should ship them back, but it won’t happen. Just make them stand on their own feet and find their own way. If a state chooses to have a massive welfare system, it won’t be bailed out by printing money as the fed is.

  • Luca

    Genetics come into play and there is small gap between Whites and Asians, so the genetic factor is probably quite small. The gap for blacks is profound and can’t be explained away by parenting because of adoption studies.

  • Alucard_the_last

    Education begins at home. The mere fact that Arabs, Indians, Asians and we of European descent score better is because we care. Arabs, Asians and Indians are all racial minorities yet they make it. They don’t cash in on ‘racism’ so they get a free ride through life. Even African immigrants are surpassing blacks. Put an end to welfare as we know it as that would be the first step in the right direction. When these free-loathing bums know they can get welfare, they won’t even try. Amorality is the norm to blacks. Getting cut off from free food and strictly enforce laws will give them the incentive to do something with their lives.

    • captainc

      I believe in capitalism for the public and social welfare only within your own family.

      • Alucard_the_last

        I fully agree. A little hunger goes a long way in giving welfare bums and whores an incentive to work. They should live on a budget. The working class is not responsible for these bums to eat steak and processed foods. My friend paid into the system for 30+ years and cannot even get food stamps because he saved his money in an IRA account. Meanwhile, some 12 year old slut from Mexico can just illegally come here, give birth and her kid is a citizen and after that comes welfare.

        • captainc

          Alucard, nice insight from African American, thanks.

  • Alucard_the_last

    There are only two white guys on the FBI’s most wanted. The others are Hispanics and most of them have connects in Latin America and will never be brought back here for a trial. Even so, they wouldn’t care. The US prison system is the Hilton compared to their rotten countries.

  • LovelyNordicHeidi

    Its selecting two groups near the top and comparing them to another whole continent.

    That is absolutely not true, and I disagree with your approach.

    1. It is a comparison between American Asians and ethnic Germans and Dutch. There are more ethnic Germans and Dutch than Asian Americans, as far as I know from the top of my head.

    2. Anyhow, why should such a comparison not be allowed? Should we now adopt our own version of political correctness to stifle debates about IQ differences?

  • Marius Quentical

    None of these analyses would matter if we Americans would face the facts that “all men are created equal” cannot be taken literally. All should be given equal rights to start. Their genetic predisposition to under-perform in most cases is due to their reduced intelligence quotients or their predisposition to mental illness, which in turn is primarily due to their different evolutionary paths and evolutionary origins. White Latinos and white South Americans (dwindling) have no sub-Saharan African bloodline…and therefore score higher. The “one drop of blood” rule really does have some truth in it. Let us never forget that according to the laws of normal distribution, American blacks average an IQ of 85 while whites have a firm grip on 100. Indigenous African blacks average an IQ of 69. The great apes can have “human” IQs as high as the mid-50s. Now THAT really says something. And what it says is that you cannot make a dollar out of 85 cents!

  • Brian

    Of course an individual black or Hispanic can change their behavior to improve their lot. But saying ‘what if the whole group acted better’ is unrealistic.

  • captainc

    :D, caste within castes.

  • 1stworlder

    Your Greenland is bigger than Africa check out my map with the meridians posted above. You cant represent a round planet on a flat map without distortions. I would not allow me to reply to you last night.

  • Alexandra1973

    That was in Lois Duncan’s book “Who Killed My Daughter?”.

    Her youngest was murdered in Albuquerque. She’d been shacked up with a Vietnamese guy and ready to break up with him. Duncan found ties to a Vietnamese gang in California that was committing acts of auto insurance fraud. Oh, and there were Hispanics involved too.

    Duncan describes going through parts of Albuquerque and seeing what I mentioned.

    Read the book.

    • JohnEngelman

      Whenever someone gives me a book to read I know I have won the argument.

      I do not deny that some Vietnamese are criminals. Nevertheless, in the United States they have a lower crime rate than blacks and Hispanics, and probably a lower crime rate than whites.

      • Alexandra1973

        No, you haven’t won the argument. I’m providing a source. If you don’t want to look up the source…then it appears I’ve won.

        I don’t have a copy of the book. I’ve borrowed it from the library numerous times. But that passage stood out.

        If I borrow it again I’ll be sure to let you know what page and paragraph, okay?

  • Max

    Look at the WHITE murder rate in the US. It is NOT 4.8/100k If we export a couple millions of negroes to Vietnam you will have some new math to do.

    • JohnEngelman

      If you look at the chart I linked to you will see that the murder rate in Vietnam is equivalent to the murder rates in countries where nearly everyone is white.

      I have lived with and dated Vietnamese. They are good people.

  • No it’s not. That’s the only thing you ever hear, that Jews are the best performing white group. You never hear anything about English, Irish, German, Italian, Dutch, Scottish, etc.

  • Not too sure about the good looking part, but yes.

  • I guess we’ve looked at different pictures, ’cause nothing I’ve ever seen suggests that blacks were ever anything other than dog ugly.

  • Brian

    You are misrepresenting this. No one said anything about the ‘arctic’. If there are five people in the temperate zone, and five in the tropics, and one in the arctic, the temperate ones do the best, sure. And…they live further north than the tropical ones. There aren’t enough Eskimos to skew the trend much, so there is a general correlation of ‘further north = higher IQ’.

  • captainc

    somewhat agree to your theory, as the roots of European civilization are Greek and Roman. And how can we explain the Ashkenazi Jews, yet we see ancient Israel was not as great as Roman or Greek, we hardly see the ruins of their civilizations.

  • B7856754

    Yes, but that only happened with severe external control from whites, which no longer exists. I’m saying we can’t count on each individual to voluntarily act differently. If they wanted to do that, they’d already be doing it. I don’t foresee many of them waking up tomorrow and deciding to turn over a new leaf.

    • Anonymous

      So are you saying that White people pre-civil rights era forced Black people to dress well, eat properly, exercise, etc? Stop giving all the credit to White people. Black people pre-civil rights era looked healthy and dressed properly because THEY WANTED TO.

      That being said, White people pre-1960s/1970s also dressed well and believed in healthy eating and exercise.

  • Brian

    Yes, but that only happened with severe external control from whites, which no longer exists. I’m saying we can’t count on each individual to voluntarily act differently. If they wanted to do that, they’d already be doing it. I don’t foresee many of them waking up tomorrow and deciding to turn over a new leaf.